=== magn3ts is now known as etaplez === etaplez is now known as gimmeeta === gimmeeta is now known as etabitches === etabitches is now known as imsorry [03:20] I tried upgrading from 11.04 to the development version of 11.10. Upgrade failed in the "immediate configure" stage of some python related package [03:21] so I ran update-manager -d, which offered to run a partial upgrade [03:21] partial upgrade fails with: Could not calculate the upgrade, "E:Error, pkgProblemResolve::Resolve generated breaks" [03:21] what's my next step? [03:23] there has been a update for the last two days that removes libreoffice, not sure this is the best time to upgrade. [03:24] urlin2u: wellll, I already started the upgrade [03:24] I fear my system might be in an inconsistent state [03:26] no back up of the original like a clone? [03:27] urlin2u: nope [03:27] I could always reinstall, it wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world [03:30] ubuntu! migration [03:32] soo, any thoughts? Even some hints on how to troubleshoot this would be great, logs I should check, etc. [03:34] what command did you use originally to upgrade? [03:35] bjsnider: just whatever updatemanager-d does [03:35] erm, update-manager -d [03:35] well, go back and run the original command, find the name of the python package and try removing it. then run the command again [03:36] bjsnider: attempting to upgrade again with a partially upgraded system won't cause things to explode? [03:37] well, to me, from what you've said, they've exploded already [03:38] ok, explode worse :) [03:38] you can check /var/log/dpkg.log too [03:39] and there's /var/log/dist-upgrade with some info inside [03:47] pyatspi2 is the package [03:48] now, if you remove it, does it also force out anything else? [03:48] yikes, it wants to take tons of stuff [03:49] g++-4.5 gcc-4.1 gcc-4.5 gnome-orca libstdc++6-4.5-dev python-pyatspi [03:49] oh, but then upgrade those packages [03:49] that's all? [03:49] bjsnider: python-pyatspi2 is not installed on my system [03:49] seemingly conflicts with a package named "python-pyatspi" (ie, no 2) [03:51] sjanssen, were you using any ppa's before you upgraded? [03:51] bjsnider: yes [03:52] any that might affect that package? [03:53] not that I can tell, atspi is apparently "Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface", can't imagine that any PPA would have a special version of that [03:53] are you using the gnome 3 ppa? [03:54] no [03:54] upgrades turn off the ppa sources, and remove some iof the apps n the process [03:54] well, anyway, it is safe to remove the package and then do the upgrade [03:54] ok, thanks [04:03] Hi! Does anyone have experience with the mount.ntfs skyrocketing in 11.10? It's constantly at 90% load, and it freezes my computer. It happened after this recent update. [04:33] bjsnider: I think the upgrade worked. Thank you very much for your help [04:34] * sjanssen is rebooting, probably won't be back if everything works [04:40] hi, can somebody explain multiarch to me? [04:42] It's like single-arch but there's more of it. [04:43] LLStarks: it means the packaging system is smarter about systems that support multiple architectures. [04:43] For example, if you're on a 64-bit Intel/AMD processor, it can also support 32-bit code. [04:43] So in oneiric, you can install the official Adobe Flash plugin from Canonical on a 64-bit machine. [04:43] Also it'll only pull in the 32-bit libraries it needs, not a huge pack in a compatibility package. [04:45] I'm looking for a development platform to code Standard C on. How's 11.10 looking for development compared to 10.04? [04:49] Johnny_Giggles: it's hosting Ubuntu development well. :) [04:49] okay [04:49] All I'm doing is K&R exercises. Nothing really fancy. [04:49] Johnny_Giggles: In that case, anyhthing should work. [04:50] Also pretend I didn't misspell "anything". [05:10] is anyone else experiencing a black boot (plymouth) screen until the login window? [05:12] yes, and is there a bug report? === maxb_ is now known as maxb === LjL-Temp` is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest54347 === Guest54347 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest34646 === popey_ is now known as popey === Guest34646 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest3789 [07:24] hey guys , how yo set up Nautilus as default menager in KDE4? [07:33] What does mean "and others" in http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/libreoffice-base-core: "Package: libreoffice-base-core (1:3.4.3-1ubuntu1 and others)"? [07:37] bullgard5: that link doesn't say that, but if it did, it would mean there are multiple versions in the archive, probably because of a build failure of some sort [07:41] hi, are there any other examples for multiarch support on oneiric but flashplugin? [07:42] good old hello works too ;) === Guest3789 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest23433 === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === Guest23433 is now known as LjL-Temp [09:59] Hi all [10:00] How can I prevent windows from opening fullscreen by default (Chromium, Thunderbird and Firefox do this)? [10:00] Hi! Installed oneiric on asusn55n. Install went well, looks nice. Problem is reboot ends in black screen. Must restart in recovery mode, log in in text mode, then sudo- start lightdm. Then everything seems ok. Any ideas? [10:01] nocturn: at least in KDE you can take Advanced-> Special window settings, and the Geometry: Apply initially (whatever size you want) [10:02] Lynoure: this behaviour is new in 11.10 AFAIK [10:02] So I hoped to be able to turn it off ... [10:02] nocturn: I think I just told you one way to turn it off... [10:03] Lynoure: thanks, but I'm on Ubuntu (Gnome), not kubuntu [10:03] nocturn: ah, then sorry, don't know. [10:04] btw onieric is xubuntu [10:09] Anyone having problems with window focus in recent updates, and subsequent unity crashes? [10:18] the libreoffice dependency is broken since the latest update [10:18] no should be fixed now ? [10:21] and when i try to install openoffice instead, it says that it needs libreoffice [10:21] dupondje: not solved after update+install [10:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/689049/ <- my sources.list [10:25] why would you want openoffice ? [10:26] because libreoffice dependencies are broken [10:26] but openoffice, too [10:28] libreoffice depends are fixed since this morning [10:28] just updated it [10:29] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libreoffice [10:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/689058/ [10:30] i hate localization for system tools [10:31] oder auf deutsch: voll scheiße, dass die jeden popel übersetzen müssen [10:33] uninstall all libreoffice packages and try to reinstall [10:40] dupondje: how long does it take to have the new deps on all mirror servers? [10:42] ah, it works after i loaded from main server [10:42] btw: there are bugs with gnome-terminal with resizing under awesome [10:43] and an other bug with maximized windows and moving under awsome === jason is now known as Guest15105 [12:20] Hiyas all === tomodach1 is now known as tomodachi1 === tomodachi1 is now known as tomodachi [12:59] Heyz,Can someone open Libreoffice and then open dash and see what happens? [12:59] My dash will open in the background,and wont get on the Libreoffice [13:00] and also,can someone try Libreoffice Writer's Wizards?They don't work here [13:00] hello [13:00] Hey [13:01] where can I get the last beta (8 sep) of Oneiric? [13:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule [13:01] Click on Beta 1 There [13:01] thanks [13:01] And it directs you to the download links [13:01] Welcome [13:01] The last link of the topic as well. [13:02] knightstalker: I can't reproduce your first issue, works as expected here [13:03] drussell,what about second one? [13:03] knightstalker: what wizards? I'm not familiar with them? [13:04] but... the beta1 link links you to the September 1st instead to the more recent September 8th ¿? [13:05] peto_,What I gave you is official,you can always download snapshots though [13:05] Not that I recommend them [13:05] peto_: Are you looking for a daily image? [13:05] peto_: best to install the official beta, and update it [13:06] peto_: as the daily images may have *issues* [13:06] drussel,go to Libreoffice Writer,then File,Then wizards and click on letter for example [13:06] knightstalker: correct, I can confirm that's not working [13:07] knightstalker: might be this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/780399 [13:07] Ubuntu bug 780399 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Wizard doesn't run without libreoffice-java-common installed. The user should be notified to install it when running a wizard." [Medium,Triaged] [13:08] drussell,oh thanks,and what about,clicking on Tools,Bibliography Database [13:08] it crashes the whole libreoffice Writer here [13:08] I see, I will download the September 1st version thanks, (I thought that all images on this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule , including September's 8, were equaly reliable [13:09] knightstalker: ooh I was just about to type "doesn't do anything but also doesn't crash" [13:09] knightstalker: then it crashed :o) [13:09] drussell,Yayz [13:09] If you are so good you'd report that,My internet sucks on sending 9 mb to Launchpad [13:10] I appreciate it :P [13:11] Anyways,I cant reproduce the first issue anymore [13:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/527938 [13:13] Ubuntu bug 527938 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "[upstream] Writer crashes when trying to set up Bibliography Database soffice.bin crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Triaged] [13:15] knightstalker: lol ahh had done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/849957 [13:15] Ubuntu bug 849957 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "soffice.bin crashed with SIGABRT in raise() clicking on Tools,Bibliography Database in LibreOffice writer" [Undecided,New] [13:26] My computer runs GNU/Ubuntu 11.04. If I run 11.10 beta 1 under Virtual Box, can I install it within the 8 GB VB gives to it ERASING ALL DISK confidently? [13:27] letting beta 1 make the partitions? [13:27] (virtual partitions, I suppose) [13:29] or is it more secure making the partitions by hand within the 8 GB virtual disk? [13:29] peto_: auto should be fine [13:30] drussell, thank you, that seems logic [13:30] al [13:55] how can I disable the login sound? I can not find it in gnome-session-properties anymore. [13:56] Okay, so this is the third time I'm typing this. :) My Skype topped working since the last update. It has some library version incompatibility. [13:56] Fatal: Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40703) with this library (version 0x40704) [13:58] OwaisL: the package "skype" does not work on amd64 anymore. use "skype:i368" package. === Chat6646 is now known as vandy [14:00] tankdriver: there is a volume control on the upper right corner of the login screen. try that already? [14:01] quassel.. [14:03] gnomie_: yes, it worked. thank you. (the icon appeared "muted", but after increasing and decreasing volume to minimum, it was ok) [14:03] tankdriver: you use quassel under gnome? how is it? [14:03] it works. ^^ [14:03] cool [14:05] indicator stuff works flawlessly too. [14:05] quassel is my fav .. only second to irssi though heh [14:05] >:) [14:06] .. but I miss the URL-Preview feature in oneiric [14:06] :( [14:07] bummer [14:07] thats a handy feature for avoiding rickrolls [14:08] quassel is the only one with such thing that i know of too === bipolar_ is now known as bipolar [14:21] tankdriver: I'm using skype:i386 [15:06] OwaisL, ldd /usr/bin/skype |grep -i Qt [15:07] pasebin output [15:07] you may need to sudo that command [15:11] bjsnider, http://pastebin.com/FgDU5Zmn [15:12] OwaisL, when was the last update? [15:13] It stopped working since Sunday I guess [15:13] My packages are up to date, updated them just 20 mins ago [15:13] bjsnider, ^ [15:13] /usr/lib32/libQtDBus.so.4 [15:13] that is not correct [15:13] i think that is the problem [15:14] install libqt4-dbus:i386 [15:15] find out whatever package it is that's providing that file [15:15] it's already installed [15:15] you might have an old ia32-libs or one from a ppa installed [15:17] bleh :Âs [15:17] seems I reported like 10 bugs the last 2 days [15:17] not cool :) [15:17] if you look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/i386/libqt4-dbus/filelist [15:17] the correct path for that file is /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtDBus.so.4 [15:18] thanks bjsinder, I'll check it out and let you know [15:19] you should check to make sure you have hte above file installed, track down what is providing the other version and then remove it and run sudo ldconfig afterwards [15:19] pretty sure this is a consequence of the move to multiarch in oneiric [15:23] LANGUAGE=nl:en_AU:en [15:24] this changes randomly ? [15:24] previous boot it was chinese ... [15:24] I did a "sudo dpkg -S /usr/lib32/libQtDBus.so.4" but that couldn't find the package. Just moved libQtDBus.so.4 o libQtDbus.so.4.bak and it worked [15:24] djsnider, thanks a ton. === semitones_ is now known as semitones [15:25] it must have somehow been left over from an old ia32-libs package [15:25] right [15:25] i don't understnd how that could happen, but maybe an upgrade was interrupted or whatever [15:26] should that not leave dpkg in broken state? [15:26] well, let's say you lose electricity or something [15:27] hmm, that might be the case [15:27] maybe you did a manual configure/make make install on a package a while back and it put thatfile there and then you never did a make uninstall [15:27] anyways, thanks for the help. [15:28] yes, I was fidling around with touchegg and some other qt apps source [15:28] that must be it [15:28] well, you might have other issues then [15:29] Got to go for dinner now. :) bye [15:29] you could rebuild that software and then do a make uninstall [15:30] sure, will do that. === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [17:45] hi there [17:45] i installed 11.10 but i can no longer find the Extra Effects option in gnome to enable fancy effects like wobbly windows, etc [17:46] where has this gone? [17:46] (using gnome classic) [17:46] !ccsm [17:46] To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz [17:48] lol, compizconfig-settings-manager just crashes [17:50] and simple-ccsm causes dependency breaks so i can't install it :(I [17:51] Yeah, the situation is terrible. [17:52] lol [17:53] * Uatec thinks he will wait [18:47] evening [18:51] can anyone here tell me why my clock isnt showing the time at all? All its showing is the word Time [18:59] im having a problem installing oneiric on my pc [19:00] is there anyone who can help me [19:01] it seems no one here is talking today [19:01] dbmit, describe your problem and if someone is here and knows how to help you we will [19:01] Exodus could you help me with the problem I asked about before? [19:02] about the clock only saying the word Time instead of the actual time? [19:02] james296, I just got here 5min ago [19:02] ok [19:02] james296, clock in Unity? [19:02] I asked about it just now [19:02] yes [19:03] ok so i tried to install and it goes through the whole process then it gets to the point where the background is displayed but the desktop or successful install wont pop up [19:03] james296, maybe you have your time offset wrong [19:03] no matter what I try I cant seem to make it show the current time [19:03] james296, have you set your location? [19:03] it says under the Time and Date settings 3:03pm [19:03] I tried that yes [19:03] james296, when you check the location does it display the correct location? [19:03] no matter where I click it STILL says Time [19:04] it just says localtime and nothing is selected [19:04] but even if I select something its still the same [19:04] ?? [19:04] james296, is Network Time enabled? [19:05] I guess so, the option Automatically from the Internet is enabled [19:05] dbmit, it's difficult to know what went wrong with just that information, could you maybe supply some log files? [19:05] how do i get to them? [19:06] james296, so you have your correct location set and the network time setting is enabled, yet it's not the correct time? [19:06] correct [19:07] dbmit, hmm, install logs, can't remember where they are, but check /var/log/ for that [19:07] it doesnt display any time [19:07] just the word Time [19:07] any time? =O [19:07] james296, can you supply a screenshot? [19:07] through the command line correct? [19:07] whats the easiest way to do that in Ubuntu? [19:07] just hit print screen [19:08] upload it to any image site [19:08] well what if I just want a screenshot of the area that the problem is at? [19:08] hm, edit the image than, gimp [19:09] so theres no way to crop the screen easily? [19:09] not from the screenshot ¬¬ [19:10] To crop the screenshot use an image manipulation tool like GIMP [19:10] can I send you the pic? [19:10] james296, select an area to grab in screenshot [19:11] did you get it? [19:11] Doesn't seem it's getting sent [19:11] Upload it somewhere, it's better for others to chip in if they have the ss too [19:11] ok, so how else can I send it to you? [19:12] There are several sites you can upload a pic too that provide an easy link [19:12] such as? [19:12] http://imgur.com/ [19:13] uploading [19:14] http://imgur.com/mj6DV [19:14] exodus, i tried that and it says is a directory [19:15] see what I mean Exodus? [19:16] dbmit, /var/log/ is a directory, there are log files in there :P [19:16] james296, is the map not clickeable for you? [19:16] ok nso how do i open? [19:16] or the Location text input not editable? [19:16] no its clickable [19:17] dbmit, log files are usually just text files unless they're handled by some log file archiver and they're ziped [19:17] hold on, I'll show you [19:17] james296, click your location, does the text not change? (What a weird bug) [19:17] no it doesnt change [19:18] here [19:18] http://imgur.com/hkjkx [19:18] james296, have you updated your system? [19:18] yes as up to date as it can get [19:21] james296, click somewhere else, like, in Asia, does it not change the time in that window? [19:21] I just tried clicking everywhere on there, still the same thing... [19:23] are you telling me Im the only person getting this problem? does it have to do with the hardware of my computer? [19:23] I already installed the ntp package for network time or whatever it is [19:23] james296, pretty much, but still, lets fix it [19:24] ok [19:24] james296, it's already installed in Ubuntu by the ntpdate package [19:24] no, it wasnt installed [19:24] you should uninstall the ntp package if you installed it [19:24] I had to install it [19:24] ntpdate package handles that [19:24] ok hold on [19:24] 'ntpdate' comes with Ubuntu [19:25] ok done [19:25] still same problem [19:26] james296, ok, lets try manually [19:26] I did that already [19:26] nothing [19:26] james296, pretty much what the graphical app should do [19:26] what did you try? [19:26] manually [19:26] Define: manually [19:26] did you change your /etc/localtime? [19:26] I click the manually button, nothing changes [19:26] ahh hehe [19:26] no no [19:27] I mean do the changes from the terminal [19:27] Manually [19:27] Instead of graphically [19:27] is that really necessary? [19:27] Im a GUI kinda guy lol [19:27] james296, it's just 3 lines [19:28] james296, and since you have this weird error it's a way to fix it [19:28] well I know if I try to save changes from the root folder, I cant, because Im not a root user [19:28] james296, open a terminal [19:28] open the Unity menu and type 'term' and hit enter [19:28] or alt f2 and type: gnome-terminal [19:28] got that [19:28] ok [19:29] by the ss you want new york? [19:29] yes [19:30] type this: [19:30] so now what? [19:30] sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York /etc/localtime [19:30] well, that might give an error [19:30] it says file exists [19:30] sudo ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York /etc/localtime [19:31] the 'f' forces the file to be overwritten [19:31] ok I did that doesnt show any output, but it still looks the same... [19:32] this is quite a challenge here isnt it? [19:33] ok, now type: sudo ntpdate-debian [19:33] now type: date [19:34] and copy/paste me the output [19:34] ntpdate[6268]: adjust time server 204.9.54.119 offset -0.012323 sec [19:34] not that output, the output from date [19:34] type: date [19:34] for those that read what I wrote about http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/ yesterdat [19:34] That output [19:34] it shaved 5 secs from the total time [19:34] and 10 secs from boot [19:34] Wed Sep 14 15:34:05 EDT 2011 [19:35] it still says Time just so you know [19:36] james296, well, the time is correct at least, it's just not showing in Unity [19:36] everything underlying Unity is alright [19:36] right [19:36] so why is it showing just time? [19:37] do you have the 'indicator-datetime' package installed? [19:38] not sure [19:38] yes [19:38] google-talkplugin : Depends: lib32v4l-0 but it is not installable [19:38] :( [19:39] geez cant subit crashes with being asked to signup to lauanchpadn this new, [19:39] theres a ppa for that I do believe Ian [19:40] Cant I give the info anon now? [19:40] so now what Exodus? [19:41] james296, this is your bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/804754 [19:41] Ubuntu bug 804754 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "[Oneiric] unity-panel-service crashed with SIGSEGV in g_date_time_unref()" [Medium,Fix released] [19:41] http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/47 [19:41] this one james296 ? [19:41] Ian_Corne: is that a bible verse! [19:41] yes [19:42] :) [19:42] what Koheleth ? :p [19:43] so what can I do Exodus? [19:43] guys everytime 11.10 crashes I am asked to login to launchpad is this a new bug or comercial thing lol [19:43] james296, wait for the update to hit the repositories :-) [19:43] grrrrrrrrrrrrr [19:43] james296, you can also install gnome-shell [19:43] anger gets no ne nowhere [19:43] yes I just did that, lol [19:44] james296, I actually use gnome-shell [19:44] yeah I used it in fedora 15 [19:44] very nice [19:44] Im gonna log off and give it a shot now [19:45] bye Exodus thanks for the help [19:45] james296, np [19:50] Exodus [19:50] question [19:50] why is it that my status is unavailable next to my name? [19:51] in Gnome-shell [19:52] FYI diff speed before and after http://bootcharts.f.bugabundo.net/ [19:53] http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/ [19:53] damn, gnome shell crashes more than Unity... [20:09] !netsplit [20:09] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === bulldog98 is now known as bulldog98_ === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [21:29] new bug in Luz in Oneiric, linker errors for SDL, Gtk, seemingly everything https://bugs.launchpad.net/luz/+bug/830733 see the log file there. ring any bells? [21:29] Ubuntu bug 830733 in Luz "Cannot build Luz on Ubuntu Oneiric" [High,Confirmed] === gnomie_ is now known as gnomie [21:44] * gnomie besieges you daily with unity2D! [21:53] ianm_: quick guess looking at the build log, the libraries are listed before the code files your compiling, I don't think it will be able to resolve symbols that way with the new setup from http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking (I'm still waiting for luz to branch so I can test it) [21:58] trism: thanks I appreciate it! [22:07] I just upgraded to Oneiric beta1, but have met a number of issues, just wanna chack if they are well known or are specific pecause of some long-forgotten tampering with my system... First: in the UNity panel, the date/time applet just says "time" instead of showing date and time? I have to open the applet menu to see anything [22:08] ianm_: yeah that seems to be it, just move *.cc in {input-manager,spectrum-analyzer}/Makefile to the start of the gcc command (I did something like: gcc -o input-manager *.cc ) [22:08] Second, I only have one workspace/virtual desktop and cannot seem to create more... Is that due to the reverting to gtk-window-decorator? [22:08] trism: fantastic thank you so much! [22:08] could somebody execute 'locale -a | grep -F .utf8' and give me its output? [22:10] lusepuster, you are using the virtual drivers. [22:11] urlin2u, the virtual drivers for what, and how can I fix it? [22:11] lusepuster, go to time & date settings to add date etc. you should have four workspaces accessible from the launcher [22:11] lusepuster, your in a virtual right? [22:12] urlin2u, nope, it's on a partition [22:12] lusepuster, I misunderstood. [22:12] robin0800, I know I should, yet there's only one. [22:13] robin0800, also, I already have four different locations, yet instead of saying the time in the panel it says the word "time". [22:15] Also, since upgrade to Oneiric, Banshee crashes when I open it... [22:16]