[00:07] Any issues installing ATI drivers (legacy) for an ATI HD4870 with this distro? [00:12] not sure. I sold my 4870, and 4870x2 years ago === Vito is now known as Vito_away [00:16] what version of xorg does the latest kubuntu have? [00:18] I am having font issues with my kde installed with kubuntu 12.10 - the font size when I 'kdesu systemsetting' is so small it is unreadable and not sure if it is related but I get a message when I launch apps from cli 'Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.' Anyone have any suggestions? [00:18] arcturus: 2xxx, 3xxx and 4xxx were dropped from the current proprietary driver (frglx), haven't tried the legacy drivers. Everything I see says that the legacy drivers do work though [00:18] my kmail and kate applications display normal sized fonts but when I print the font is huge on the printout [00:19] *fglrx [00:20] arcturus: 1.13 [00:23] dougl: doesn't really seem to help since it's unresolved, but: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesudo-kde4/+bug/632503 [00:23] Launchpad bug 632503 in kdesudo-kde4 (Ubuntu) "Font customizations are not visible when using kdesudo" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:24] SIR_Taco__, maybe will cure my curiosity - thanks [00:25] dougl: wonder what would happen if you moved the ~/.fonts.conf temporarily to see what happens? [00:25] no effect [00:28] dougl: mine aren't super small, but it is definitely a different font settings between the two [00:31] dougl: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-56517.html possibly try following the option in the 3rd comment [00:36] SIR_Taco__, thanks [00:53] robtygart: sorry.. i've been going through 5k of photos looking for ones of my son.. I will be upgrading soon. This is my production machine and I do work with it all the time. Typically to upgrade I have to reinstall root leaving my /home on another partition. Then install all the stuff I typically have. It's a pain. [00:54] Scunizi: Sounds fun! [00:57] I am in no hurry to upgrade again. === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow [01:00] hi [01:00] I am very sad [01:01] I can't seem to be playing any video with Chinese subtitles [01:01] Dragon Player: fail. xine: fail [01:01] it's a double fail! [01:03] http://www.obicn.com/Operating-Systems/Make-xine-play-movie-with-Chinese-subtitle.htm [01:03] I found this, but it's no help [01:03] it's written for advanced users ._. [01:20] hello i search a calculator with many funktions and history/chronic [01:20] does anybody know a good one [01:21] did you check google? [01:22] dont know how the list of executed caslculations is called [01:22] search in the software center or on google. [01:23] for which word calculator and how is this list called [01:24] Sorry, I can't tell you how to use google. [01:24] Hi. Is there a way to search for files by date created or modified (instead of just by name or content)? Using Dolphin or another tool? [01:24] the prob is not google the prob is the translation [01:25] and google doesnt tell me how usefull the calculator is so i asked here to get sugestions [01:29] zacarias the only iidea with dolphin i have is a search in the folder and sub for * and then sort the detail list by date [01:30] hi [01:30] Obsidian1723, can you tell me how to parse the text once I found the answer through google? [01:34] MySystem: yes, but with that you still have to enter the name first, and you can't list all your files created on a certain date, for instance [01:38] as name use wildcard * but yes it lists all files and you have to go to the position of the date you search in list [01:40] with gui i sadly dont know any other option [01:42] MySystem: I don't even see a column with date after the search (just "name" and "location"). And with CLI, how can I do that? [01:44] search last modified on Cli > find -type f -exec stat -c "%y %n" {} + | sort -r | head [01:46] thx oerheks your way looks much better [01:46] found @ http://askubuntu.com/questions/61179/find-the-latest-file-by-modified-date [01:46] Also Dolphin should be able too, but i cannot find a howto. [01:51] zacarias found a gui app sudo apt-get install kfind [01:52] Thanks! [01:52] I created a program shortcut (launcher?) in my K-menu but the icon won't stick. [01:53] i cant start apps from dolphin root, can anyone confirm? [01:56] jujubee dont get the meening of stick [01:56] sry translation my english is not the best [01:57] MySystem: Thanks [01:58] np [01:58] MySystem: When I add the icon either in the .desktop file or by right clicking on the k-menu and adding an item, the icon does not show only the text of the launcher [02:01] jujubee this case i don't know but is the icon in one of the listet formats (*.png *.xpm *.svg *.svgz) [02:03] jujubee the only other idea i have is the user/group which access the file dont have read access but this isnt much possible i think [02:06] JuJuBee: it might be your icons. Try using a different Icon set (Thats if you changed it in the first place) === lucid is now known as govcheese [02:07] MySystem: the rights on icons are rwxr-xr-x and they are .png files. [02:08] jujubee then i sadly have no idea but if it is a system icon which is managed trhough icon packages then robtygart's idea sounds good [02:09] sup [02:11] If I use a system icon it stays. Seems if I copyt the icon to my home dir, it works fine. Strange... [02:17] tell meif you figured out why jujubee sounds also strange to me [02:18] see ya [03:29] * jedihawk still has no life. === Obsidian1723-2 is now known as Obsidian1723 === IdleOne is now known as ElliotNess === ElliotNess is now known as IdleOne [05:34] jedihawk: I hear you can download one from the net. [05:34] ooo! perhaps you can give me mystical, magical URL? [05:35] I haven't found it yet, sorry. But it's rumoured to really exist. :-) [05:37] i cleared the log, what are you looking for, jedihawk ? [05:39] a life. actually, I'm not really looking. I'm quite happy here in linuxland. :-) [05:40] ah, still looking for a deb :-D [05:40] Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. [05:40] i guess, build it yourself [05:46] life is for people who can't handle Skyrim. [05:46] in fact, my Skyrim life is much more interesting. [05:46] you may even want to date my Avatar. [05:46] (she's hotter than reality by far) [05:46] jedihawk: You're right. You don't have a life. [05:46] :-D [05:47] oke how about 21-12-2012 ? oh, this is offtopic [07:31] IS there a channel for adobe flash? I want to change its fonts [07:32] AKnot: no [07:33] but perhaps one of the people in #ubuntu know, worth a shot asking [07:33] ill try [07:58] I moved files from other hdd to main one. Now its "indexing" them. What does it mean? [08:00] indexing is making a DB with keywords to make searching faster, like Zeitgeist or in Kubuntu Nepomuk [08:24] DB? [08:26] DB - database [08:37] okt thanks [08:57] OerHeks: i suspended one index before, can i do it again or is it no big deal? [09:03] AKnot, it is no big deal, you can start it again by opening nepomuk service [09:04] ok [09:32] how to set up kate as a default editor for all text files? === david is now known as Guest46129 [10:31] hey folks, a friend just did some apt updates, and can no longer use X. i'm trying to help him out [10:31] kdm comes up with the login screen. when logging in, the login screen disappears and he's left with a background image and a mouse cursor, but no further activity. this also happens with a new user [10:32] joedj: Is he on 12.10? [10:33] there are some errors about "QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave." in ~/.xsession-errors [10:33] Odd-rationale: 12.04 LTS [10:34] i installed twm and tried choosing that in kdm, same result [10:34] Can you login into a VT? [10:35] yeah [10:35] What happens when you run startx? [10:35] black screen [10:35] no mouse cursor [10:35] Any messages when you switch back to the VT? [10:36] (actually, it flashes the nvidia splash screen before the black one) [10:36] back on the VT there's "FATAL: Module off not found" as the last line [10:37] if i remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf that FATAL line goes away, still get the nvidia logo then black screen [10:38] there's an x-window-manager process running [10:39] Do you know whether the kernel got upgraded during that upgrade? [10:39] he thinks it may have [10:39] we have uninstalled and reinstalled "nvidia-current", and rebooted [10:39] You can check `less /var/log/apt/history.log` [10:41] yeah, looks like it [10:41] linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic:amd64 [10:42] Have you tried with the Nouveau drivers just to see if it works? [10:43] i don't think so [10:43] how does one install that? [10:44] try: rmmod nvidia [10:44] then: modprobe nouveau [10:45] that gives FATA:L Module off not found [10:45] (my typo..) [10:46] is xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed? [10:46] yep [10:46] i can try reinstalling it [10:47] didn't help [10:47] joedj: Googled around a little bit. This guy suggests uninstalling nouveau and installing updated nvidia drives from a PPA: https://www.benjaminwiedmann.net/fix-nouveau-driver-issues-on-ubuntu-12-04-install-nvidia-drivers.html === shumski__ is now known as shumski === shumski is now known as shumski__ === shumski__ is now known as shumski === karl is now known as Guest14683 === karl_ is now known as Guest14683 [11:30] Odd-rationale: oh, twm _was_ working, it just had no eyecandy so i didn't realize. with twm i have a right-click menu [11:35] Odd-rationale: i think the issue is with KDE / the window manager, not the driver [11:40] joedj: I had an issue with corrupt configuration files in an earlier version of kubuntu which resulted in similar behaviour... you could try to backup the .kde folder, rename it, and let kde regenerate the configuration files [11:40] not sure if this is your problem tho, but it might be worth a shot [11:41] navlelo_: i'll give it a shot, though i created a new user which i thought would have ruled that sort of thing out [11:50] navlelo_: yeah, that didn't seem to help (rm -rf ~/.kde /var/tmp/kdecache*) :( [11:51] joedj: too bad :( [11:51] i have no idea then :\ [11:52] hmm... what would be an advised partitioning scheme for a notebook (1tb hdd)? I plan to keep several (a few millions) of small files on home partition [11:52] (either home or a separate partition) [11:54] is there a benefit for keeping a separate / partition in this case? (would a huge number of small files lead to faster fragmentation of hdd?) [11:55] also, should I consider MurderYourWifeFS instead of ext3 for this? [11:55] err... I meant, RazerFS === susundberg is now known as psundberg [11:59] screw it, installed xfce4, at least he can use that for now =P [12:02] Hey all [12:03] morning BluesKaj [12:04] 'morning mydogsnameisrudy ..how's it going ? [12:04] to warm ;) [12:05] had the window open all night [12:05] raining and 10C/50F here [12:05] ya about that here just no rain right now [12:06] good , then it will end here soon then [12:07] oops more coffee needed , repeating myself [12:08] Weird. Amarok has a weird behavior since latest updates -> 4.9.3 applied ... Hickups, stop playing a sing totally, and crashes ... *hmmm* [12:09] Smurphy, yeah amarok has been sfflicted with a bug of some sort [12:09] afflicted [12:10] think so... s*cks ... [12:11] Smurphy, seen a few reports about it in the last few days ..dunno if a bug has been filed tho [12:13] can't reproduce it... Just happens. [12:14] some error about wrong codecs then it doesn't shutdown when X'd keeps on playing without the icon in the panel etc [12:19] nah. Here - it just stops playing alltogether. === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [12:19] BTW - I realize I need to convert all AAC files I still have from apple to mp3 ... Anyone knows a nice tool to do that under kubuntu ? Command line will do. [12:20] I've been using clementine , seems much easier to use , less clunky [12:20] ffmpeg is always good for converting [12:21] won't any open source players play AAC ? why the need to convert [12:21] depends on what kind of AAC is it, some are basically MP4, others are some DRM thing [12:22] soundkonverter works well for other conversions , never tried AAC tho [12:24] tsimpson, what about batch conversion with ffmpeg ? [12:25] it does batch too [12:25] as well as being command-line, so you can just write a script or bash for-loop [12:26] yeah - had written a script long time ago to convert some stuff from youtube to mp4 using ffmpeg. [12:30] test [12:45] hi, is it possible (yet?) to change the opacity of windows by +scrollwheel in kubuntu 12.04 using kwin? [12:45] or is it still needed to install compiz for that? [12:58] is +scrollwheel to change window-opacity available in pure kwin ? [13:02] gvandeweyer: ask #kde [13:06] Peace-: I'll do === cryptfu_ is now known as Guest34240 === Guest34240 is now known as cryptfu === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === jonas_ is now known as Guest54913 === Vito_away is now known as Vito === Vito is now known as Cicuta === Cicuta is now known as Vito [13:46] Why does Amarok needs 0,5GB RAM? When I start Amarok, Linux starts swaping for almost five minutes! [14:06] Graf_Westerholt: No idea why it does that. I switched to Banshee awhile ago. Less problems. [14:09] I love kubuntu even more than the gnome version.. but my kubuntu freezes occasionally.. I have an Acer Aspire notebook [14:09] any idea? [14:10] derron, same problem here, but no fix. [14:10] Obsidian1723, thx, maybe I'll try it. [14:11] derron: You could always check the log files, see what's going on with it...\ [14:11] where can i find them? thanks [14:12] Graf_Westerholt: Yeah, I'm a bad user. I just don't care anymore. Unless it's ap rogram that I NEED and ONLY that program will suffice, fine... I'll do a bug report or look into it extensively, but if it's something like an audio player? I'll do a few things to see if I can correct it, but I'm not going to sit there and muddle through it for days, weeks, months... I'll just replace it. I'm not a programmer, developer, debugger, etc. [14:13] derron: In /var/log [14:13] derron: what version of KDE do you have? [14:14] umm not sure. im kinda still new to linux.. i have been using it alot but just web browsing and the basic stuff [14:14] gotcha. ok, open up the file manager (Dolphin) under Help is About KDE [14:15] 4.9.3 (which I have) is the latest release. [14:15] i see its 4.9.2 [14:15] You may want to update it. [14:15] ok i will do that.. see if it helps [14:15] thanks again [14:15] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [14:16] also, what version of Kubuntu are you using? [14:16] 12.10 [14:16] lsb_release -a <-- will show the version [14:16] ah [14:17] Well, to each their own on this, but I recommend staying with the LTS releases, 12.04 in this case. [14:17] ya i might consider that if I encounter the freezing more... [14:17] LTS has 5 year support whereas the non-LTSes do not. Also, the non-LTSes aren't as stable. I know some people use them just fine, but in general, they are not. [14:18] Non-LTSes are really just betas for the NEXT LTS... [14:18] 14.04 [14:18] ya i guess... i just like to jump onto the next new thing [14:18] Nothing wrong with bleeding edge. That's why some people run Arch :D [14:18] I personally need stablity, so LTSes for me, and Debian [14:19] Hi, first time I try out this function:) [14:19] ive been wanting to try arch... doesnt work on my laptop for some reason [14:20] yeah, it's kinda flaey in some ways. Bleeding edge is a good way to learn. [14:20] flakey [14:21] I'd suggest trying it in a VM if you lack the number of physical machines to try any distro out on. [14:21] Ya.. im just getting out of school for computers... getting my security+ soon.. i got my MTA for server [14:21] so i want to try to learn more linux [14:21] as well [14:21] You can also make a default installation snapshot, so if the system gets borked up (which it will while you learn), rolling back is easy/. [14:22] Sec+ is nice... I'm looking at the GSEC myself. [14:22] gsec? [14:22] I currently have a DCSE, Network+, Linux+, 35 years experience. [14:22] wow holy cow lol [14:22] GSEc, from GIAC [14:22] I'm actually going for an F5 cert next.... new job is paying for it. [14:22] kudos... u were there when linux first came out? [14:23] I was. I started on UNIX in 1978 actually. [14:23] nice [14:23] Windows didn't exist for 7 years, MSFT was a 3 year old company, APPL was 2 years old, the web didn't exist for 12 more years. [14:24] I started @ age 11, I'm 45 now. [14:25] GSEC is a bit more hands on then SEC+ is, but SEC+ is good... If yo uwant to get into security, you may want to focus on more of the hands on certs like GSEC, CEH, GCUX, etc, vs more administrative ones like CISSP. [14:25] wow... wish i started when u did ... [14:25] meh, I forgot a lot, learned a lot, learn every day. I can't program for shyte. [14:25] lol ya i never want to program.... [14:26] I'm a network/os/security guy, thats my area\ [14:26] me either. [14:27] I gotta jet to work. I'm always on. IM me if you want. btw, ever heard og Backtrack? [14:27] og/of [14:27] ya we use backtrack [14:27] for ethical hacking class] [14:27] right on. If yo ureally want to learn, install DVL (Damn Vunerable Linux) then secure it, then attack it with BackTrack, repeat until the holes are plugged. [14:28] CEH = Certified Ethical Hacker...from OSSEC, good cert :D [14:28] If you want certs, checkout GIAC and OSSEC [14:29] ok, gotta jet... [14:29] thanks.. tttyl [14:29] anytime. [15:09] hello, my X is broken after a quantal upgrade... no useful info in the logs, I've tried reinstalling kubuntu-desktop and a few utperh packages, including some of the xserver-* ones ... any ideas? [15:10] so are you in the tty , CQ or on another machine? [15:11] this is another machine... the tty is fine, so is lightdm [15:11] or kdm works as well [15:11] on this machine (laptop) the upgrade went fine [15:12] cq so exactly how is X broken on the other pc ? [15:13] I put in username and password, the screen goes blank, then I get the lightdm screen back [15:13] nvidia graphics ? [15:15] nope, plain intel onboard [15:16] ok , go back to the lightdm greeter screen ,ctrl+alt+f1 to drop to the tty , login , then sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade , there's fix in the upgrades [15:16] have done that, no change up until 5 mins ago [15:16] I had exactly the same issue [15:17] ok did you try dist-upgrade as well? === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [15:18] yep [15:18] yep [15:21] * BluesKaj wonders if nomodeset would help === root is now known as Guest89754 [15:23] nomodeset? [15:24] the thing is you're able to boot into the greeter , so nomodeset isn't really applicable [15:24] !nomodeset [15:24] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [15:26] did you any errors about X server and initramfs ? [15:26] * Smurphy uses: nomodeset and removes the splash and quiete stuff ... [15:26] CQ, or xinit ? [15:27] yeah , was grasping for straws [15:28] hey [15:33] hmm i must be doing sumthin wrong this my first time on Irc [15:34] TalonClaw: Hello [15:34] TalonClaw, not so far , your client is working [15:34] ah it is lol [15:35] was checking that then [15:35] converting myself from windows to linux [15:35] CQ, you could try booting using an older kernel [15:36] good idea can do [15:36] hmm iv somehow got myself banned from a channel by tryin to join it.. [15:38] register zxcvbnm [15:38] fail lol [15:39] older kernel 3.2 doesn't help [15:39] anyone care to tell an irc noobie how to register nick with nickserv? [15:39] cnt member [15:39] /msg nickserv help register ? [15:39] wrong keyboard [15:40] !register [15:40] Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [15:40] thanls [15:40] thanks === derron is now known as Derron [15:44] weird with the old kernel the guest login works but the users don't [15:46] yeah i forgot about the guest login option working in some cases... why that works is a mystery to me [15:47] nope [15:47] now this is my main issue with working on two pc's [15:47] lol [15:49] yayyyy im registered [15:49] lol [15:49] lol derron takes a lil to get used to dont it [15:49] AP? [15:49] yea lol... i use to join IRC chats alot a long time ago... [15:50] lol first day ever getting in one [15:50] ya i use to use mIRC back like 10+ years ago [15:50] still managed to get banned on a channel by trying to join it :/ [15:53] TalonClaw, repeatedly trying to join an invite only chat can get you banned [15:56] i think i accidently tried to join as root which is auto ban on backtrack [15:56] was just looking it up [15:58] asking about backtrack in 'buntu chat's a no no [15:59] indeed [15:59] !backtrack [15:59] There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition [16:00] omg i fail so badly [16:00] but yeha thats the channel im now banned from facepalm [16:00] well backtrack has reason to be paranoid [16:01] yup. [16:01] BT support maybe in ##linux though [16:01] otherwise you're SOL. [16:01] irc chat words [16:01] I don't see any benefits in backtrack anyway [16:02] tools are there ready to use [16:02] i find it easier to just have a play about on before getting into anything serious [16:02] like pacman all night last night [16:08] Kubuntu just froze on me 5 minutes ago.. seems to be while im browsing the internet... can anybody help? [16:08] derron_, can you describe the freeze [16:09] it freezes completely... cnat do anything have to force it to shut down [16:09] KB and mouse or just a url [16:09] all [16:09] derron ctrl-alt-f1 works? [16:09] no [16:10] I did not upgrade the kernel yet... but its only down by .1 [16:12] just started the updates ... have alot [16:12] well.. not for my internet connection lol... === derron_ is now known as Derron [16:14] shud remember me craigo lol [16:14] wrong keyboard... [16:17] lol im like crossing my fingers hoping the system doesnt freeze in the middle of the update LOL that would really suck [16:18] moin. [16:19] I want to download and burn kubuntu but I don't have a dvd reader on the machine I want to install it on. [16:19] USB [16:19] I want to burn kubuntu on a cd-r. [16:19] Derron: it's too old to boot of usb. [16:19] o ok [16:20] It's a dell inspiron. [16:20] dell inspiron too old? [16:20] what model [16:20] usb is not on the boot menu. [16:20] you can still boot from usb you just need the right software [16:20] sometimes its not right in the bios... hit f12 [16:21] and that ^ [16:21] i cant really remember but its somewhere where you wouldnt expect... [16:21] you have to enable a setting [16:21] i encountered that issue before where it wasnt in the boot menu... but i had to enable something [16:22] its like a setting where the HD info is... wish i could remember more specifically.. sry :( [16:23] I'll snoop around the bios. thanks. [16:23] I don't see it under F12 though. [16:24] ok hopefully if you snoop around the bios you find it.... but what model is the inspiron btw [16:24] becuase i have had an inspiron [16:24] sorry I'm at work atm, until lunch break. Don't recall the exact model. [16:24] ok [16:24] I go on lunch in 10 min though :) [16:25] ok hopefully you can find the setting when u do go [16:25] maybe i will try to research how to do it on some inpiron models while your working [16:27] wow apparently on some older models they block the USB booting on purpose... [16:27] stupid dell [16:27] So you just unblock it in the bios. right ? [16:27] lol [16:27] hopefully idk still looking [16:28] probably for security purposes. dumb dell. [16:28] yep [16:28] u could of course try pxe boot [16:28] if u wanna try [16:29] not sure how that works with linux [16:31] can i give web links here?> [16:32] Derron: So long as it's not adverts [16:32] ok i found a good site on the booting issue... [16:32] http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-39667.html [16:32] if you wanna check that out, snax [16:32] Derron: do you use unetbootn to make usb boot drives? [16:33] i use pendrivelinux [16:33] universal usb installer [16:48] if i install konversation-dbg and running konversation in gdb it will say that theres no debugging symbols, so something is missing in konversation-dbg package, can anyone fix thos? [16:49] Riddell: i you use to package konversation :) [16:51] simplew: should be in /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/konversation [16:51] Riddell: you could try reproduce it [16:55] latest kde is 4.9.3? [16:55] updates isnt showing 4.9.3 [16:55] it's in the backports repository [16:56] i htink it id update tho..i have to restart for it to show? [16:56] i think it is* [16:57] just reload, not restart [16:57] (like apt-get update) [16:57] how do i reload?? ctrl alt backspace? [16:57] o [16:57] what package manager are ya useing? [16:57] using* [16:58] muon.... [16:58] default [16:59] I don't know how to do it from Muon :-< [16:59] what do you use [17:00] synaptic [17:00] Riddell: Reading symbols from /usr/bin/konversation...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/konversation...(no debugging symbols found)...done. [17:00] on kubuntu?? i thought synaptic was just gnome [17:01] well, synaptic is a GTK program, you can instal it just fine if you'd like, and it happens to be the most stable, feature full package manager I know of [17:02] ya installing it now [17:03]