[01:56] <Fudge> anyone able to chip in with some advice regarding live build?
[01:56] <Fudge> E: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com disco/updates Release' does not have a Release file.
[02:42] <robert_ancell> Trevinho, can you rebase https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/307 ?
[02:43] <robert_ancell> and https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/314
[02:53] <duflu> Good afternoon robert_ancell
[02:53] <robert_ancell> duflu, hi!
[02:53] <duflu> I suspect our mornings won't ever align
[02:54] <Fudge> what is the git repo being used for ubuntu's live build?
[02:55] <robert_ancell> Fudge, the seeds?
[02:56] <Fudge> no sir the actual livecd-rootfs I think?
[02:56] <duflu> Fudge, apt-get source says:  https://git.launchpad.net/livecd-rootfs -b ubuntu/master
[02:57] <Fudge> ooh that's very handy to know apt-get source shows that
[03:00] <Fudge> duflu:  thank you
[03:00] <duflu> No problem
[03:14] <Fudge> no wonder i was having so much problem before, i was using the debian lb
[03:37] <Fudge> oh no back to this problem E: Unable to locate package syslinux-themes-ubuntu-oneiric
[05:51] <Fudge> im not running live build in a vm, using the current dev branch to build a disco system so thought it should work
[05:55] <Fudge> guess similar to
[05:55] <Fudge> bug #1739790
[05:55] <ubot5> bug 1739790 in live-build (Ubuntu) "live-build fails to build" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1739790
[06:20] <didrocks> good morning
[06:26] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[06:28] <didrocks> hey duflu
[06:29] <Fudge> seems like installing syslinux-themes-ubuntu fixed it
[07:10] <seb128> goooood morning desktopers!
[07:18] <didrocks> hey seb128
[07:19] <seb128> lut didrocks, bon w.e ? en forme ?
[07:21] <duflu> Morning seb128
[07:22] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you? had a good w.e and monday?
[07:22] <duflu> seb128, I am sore and out of shape, but also because I got a lot done. How about you?
[07:22] <didrocks> seb128: ça va, et toi ?
[07:23] <seb128> getting things done is at least something :) a bit the same here, tired, it was a busy/productive w.e
[07:25] <seb128> which included another trip to ikea to buy 20 boxes of wood floor for the terrasse and bring them from the car parking to the second floor and then installing them
[07:25] <seb128> good that it's monday and I can sit a bit :)
[07:25] <duflu> That's a lot
[07:25] <duflu> Yeah I know Monday is often that physical break you need
[07:27] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:27] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[07:27] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme ? passé un bon w.e?
[07:28] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks & seb128
[07:28] <seb128> et au "frais"? ;)
[07:28] <oSoMoN> oui, très bon week-end, bien arrivé en Bretagne hier soir, la température est très agréable :)
[07:30] <seb128> :)
[07:30] <seb128> tu veux dire que ça caille ?
[07:31] <seb128> here it's quite cold, 17°C ... I don't like too hot weather but that's the opposite, stil supposed to be summer
[07:34] <didrocks> I still prefer 17°C to 38°C, you can put a jacket on
[07:37] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[07:38] <oSoMoN> good afternoon duflu
[07:38] <oSoMoN> didrocks is a Norseman
[07:39] <oSoMoN> I don't know what the temperature is tbh, but I find it pleasantly cool, for now
[07:39] <didrocks> not that far, but after living too many to hoot summer, I know what is more pleasant to me :)
[07:40] <didrocks> (as long as it's sunny)
[07:54] <willcooke> morning all
[07:54] <oSoMoN> morning willcooke
[07:55] <Fudge> or good evening if you're in AU
[08:01] <duflu> Only evening in the east :)
[08:01] <Laney> hi hi
[08:02] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:03] <didrocks> hey willcooke, Laney
[08:05] <oSoMoN> morning Laney
[08:06] <seb128> hey Laney willcooke
[08:08] <Fudge> hi Laney  long time no wave
[08:08] <Fudge> duflu:  so true WA two hours behind Eastern Australia
[08:11] <Laney> hi duflu didrocks oSoMoN seb128 Fudge!
[08:20] <seb128> the people triaging WSL issues on github have some way to get into a non-windows-user mindset :-/
[08:21] <seb128> they blogged about 'nicety, now you can browse your directories in explorer directly by doing 'explorer.exe .' from withing the WSL env'
[08:21] <seb128> which is nice indeed, and works as adverted ... now I tried to 'explorer.exe /etc' and that gives a 'empty dir' result
[08:22] <seb128> I opened an issue about it, but they are like 'yeah, it's normal, why would you expect that to work, /etc isn't a valid windows path'.... and don't budge from that position :-/
[08:24] <duflu> seb128, remember /foo in Windows is used for parameters like -foo in Unix/Linux
[08:25] <duflu> So for consistency some programs might prefer to not support /etc
[08:25] <seb128> right, but you are in WSL
[08:26] <duflu> Though the parsing is reimplemented per-program. You can do anything you like
[08:26] <seb128> they could provide a wrapper script "explorer_linux' which wrap the patch into a wslpath conversion and call explorer.exe on the real path
[08:26] <seb128> it's not my problem as an user that they document explorer.exe as the way to browse you unix files but do it in a confusing way
[08:45] <duflu> :(
[08:45] <duflu> willcooke, seb128, my changes to the release bugs page got lost/overwritten by others
[08:45] <duflu> Maybe this won't work
[08:45]  * duflu tries again
[08:46] <willcooke> ah, that's interesting.  I expected it to deal with that in a better way than just dropping some edits.
[08:47] <duflu> Yes
[08:48] <duflu> Next time I will do it earlier in the day
[08:49] <seb128> no conflict handling? that's annoying :-/
[08:49] <duflu> willcooke, it would probably work better with one post per bug
[08:49] <Laney> https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/6585
[08:49] <seb128> is there some history of the changes?
[08:49] <Laney> maybe we need to upgrade or something
[08:51] <duflu> If each bug had its own post then it should be OK and people would be editing different posts
[08:52] <duflu> Or each person had their own post :)
[08:52] <Laney> that would be a lot of clicking for the person making the post
[08:55] <pieq_> willcooke, https://www.techrepublic.com/article/ubuntu-what-does-the-future-look-like-post-unity/ → nice interview! :)
=== pieq_ is now known as pieq
[09:05] <willcooke> pieq, thanks.  I wish they'd edited it a bit more than just recording a phone call and putting it straight out .
[09:05] <willcooke> Also, I need to realise that 1999 isn't five years ago any more
[09:10] <ogra> it is always as 1999 as you make it ;)
[09:12] <pieq> willcooke, hahah :)
[09:12] <pieq> willcooke, well, people always complain that the interviews are *too* edited, so maybe the journalist wanted to be as faithful as possible...
[09:12] <pieq> we are all getting older
[09:13] <duflu> In 1999 I could say I had a major in AI. I would not claim to know anything about AI anymore.
[09:16] <pieq> in 1999 I was told by my teacher "NASA has to process huge datasets, like 10 GB, in real time. That's an impossible task!".
[09:16] <duflu> Also, ignore those kids building "Google". It won't amount to much
[09:17] <pieq> I've helped three friends installing Ubuntu on their laptops. Each of them have quite different use cases. I'm interested in their feedback in a few months.
[09:17] <pieq> duflu, :)
[09:30] <duflu> Curious. I am getting the problem with XDG_DATA_DIRS being ignored again. Laney did you make a suggestion last week?
[09:31] <xnox> hey
[09:31] <Laney> Can't remember
[09:31] <Laney> didn't that turn out to be some other problem?
[09:31] <Laney> hello xnox
[09:32]  * duflu has another idea
[09:32] <duflu> Hi xnox
[09:32] <xnox> Laney:  thanks! so i think i fixed most of my weechat irc =)
[09:32] <marcustomlinson> Whoops forgot to open irc this morning. Hola!
[09:32] <xnox> SSL cert expired, and nickserv is broken, and like oftc is still broken
[09:33] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson. Was it blissful?
[09:33] <marcustomlinson> haha yeah :)
[09:37] <duflu> Laney. Yes it was a combination of two problems: (1) Last week I clobbered half my environment; and (2) Last week upstream mutter started requiring manual recompilation of schemas after `install`. Maybe it always did and only recent changes made it fatal...
[09:44] <clobrano> hey all 0/
[09:46] <Laney> duflu: ah, right - compiling schemas has always been required but perhaps a new key ended up in the codepath you were using for the first time
[09:46] <Laney> yo clobrano, how's it going?
[09:46] <duflu> Hi clobrano
[09:47] <clobrano> hi Laney, very well indeed, what about you?
[09:48] <Laney> aye can't complain
[09:48] <Laney> looking at the weird image building scripts
[09:48] <clobrano> :)
[09:49] <clobrano> I applied for the Ubuntu membership for the next Wednesday, if anyone feels to drop a note on my page I will really appreciate (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/clobrano) [shameless promotion OFF]
[09:49] <clobrano> thanks already to didrocks and willcooke :)
[09:51] <willcooke> woot!
[10:05] <oSoMoN> ricotz, good morning! can you push your changes to the firefox-beta branches, please?
[10:07] <ricotz> oSoMoN, done
[10:08] <ricotz> oSoMoN, just holding back a tarballing update for now
[10:08] <oSoMoN> cheers!
[10:09] <ricotz> hello, what is up with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/240-6ubuntu10
[10:10] <Laney> don't ask us :-)
[10:11] <ricotz> hopefully the uploader notices it ;)
[10:12] <didrocks> hey clobrano, yw :)
[10:20] <Fudge> lol
[11:00] <Laney> kenvandine: did you want to do an MP to bring back the core snap?
[11:29] <willcooke> Woot.  Emailed Pete Laurence from The Sky At Night about his lunar eclipse images and got the OK to enter them in to the wallpaper comp, he's removed the watermarks and licenced under CC
[11:29] <willcooke> In other news.... I installed Gimp on Disco from the deb and some bits of it are in German
[11:30] <willcooke> I think I remember seeing something about this sort of bug recently
[11:43] <marcustomlinson> willcooke: awesome re: the wallpaper!
[11:46] <marcustomlinson> Man, it's gonna be hard to tear me away from the dingo though
[12:30] <willcooke> marcustomlinson, check it! https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/wallpaper-competition-eoan-ermine-19-10/11635/71
[12:32] <marcustomlinson> 🤤
[13:45] <Laney> kenvandine: btw I think 05e71b38409b5a7cef41ebc864223466292268bb in livecd-rootfs (possibly with a seed change) broke it
[13:46] <kenvandine> Laney: thanks
[13:47] <Laney> I'm filing a bug since the Hyper-V thing seems to be something different
[14:07] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1836594
[14:07] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1836594 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Snaps are broken in daily images" [Undecided,New]
[14:08] <Laney> which was all because I wanted to create https://trello.com/c/QJzgZClV/214-qa-ci-for-snaps-on-isos
[14:09]  * Laney hopes that can be scheduled
[14:58] <willcooke> thanks for adding that card Laney
[14:58] <Laney> nps
[15:39] <ricotz> oSoMoN, if you made changes to firefox-beta then consider to push them, 69.0b5 is due today
[15:40] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I haven't made any changes yet
[15:41] <ricotz> oSoMoN, ok, I assumed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1834866
[15:41] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1834866 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Stop building and remove firefox-globalmenu" [Medium,Triaged]
[16:57] <willcooke> night all.  Have a good evening