[02:00] mmikowski: Been working on that KDE crash bug. It's... very elusive. I have it pinned down to the component (plasma-workspace) and know that Plasma/5.26 reliably crashes and master reliably doesn't... but finding the actual commit that fixes things has proven to be really difficult. [02:03] Ah, thanks Aaron. [02:04] It seems less common now in 22.04 (KDE 5.24.7). [02:04] But it is certainly still there :\ [02:05] It might be a weird interaction between plasma and fameworks. I'm just guessing that because after the last frameworks upgrade, the crashiness seems less. [02:06] But seems != scientifically proven. It's just a feeling. [02:06] So far what I know is that, when everything's Plasma/5.26, crashes happen. When you run all Plasma/5.26 but with just plasma-workspace built from master, the crashes vanish. [02:07] The trouble is that the Plasma/5.26 branch and the master branch seem to have diverged *before* the release of Plasma/5.26 (how???) and so stuff that you would expect to work doesn't. [02:07] Is the crash the one when you are changing the theme? [02:07] Like checking out the Plasma/5.26 merge commit in the master branch and building it results in a totally broken desktop. [02:07] Yep, it's the theme changing crash. [02:07] That's the one I was talking about. [02:07] Yeah. So we're on the same page. [02:07] Ah, so yeah, I just changed the theme 3 times with the layout also changing. [02:07] This is in 5.24.7 - and it hasn't crashed yet. [02:08] Before, it was crashing 50% of the time. [02:09] ok, after the 8th change, it has crashed. [02:10] Yup, plasmashell's dead, Jim. [02:10] Needed to use plasmashell --replace. [02:11] So yeah, less common, but still there. [02:11] Yeah. I know there's a fix somewhere (or at least suspect so), so I'll keep looking. [02:11] Ah, git histories can be weird. [02:12] I'm no expert, but the branch commits can get interlaced. [02:12] You ain't joking :P [02:12] So that's prolly what you're seeing. [02:12] I gotta run for family dinner, but I might be able to help next week. [02:13] o/ See you later! Have a great night! [02:13] (hey btw are you on Mastodon?) [02:13] I've gotta get this new kernel package built and we have new hardware coming soon, so busy busy busy. [02:13] No, not yet anyway. [02:13] kk gotta run. ttys! [02:13] k. If you ever make a Kubuntu Focus account on there, lemme know. I'm on @arraybolt3@ubuntu.social. See ya! [12:49] Hi all [17:18] arraybolt3: cool, thanks! [17:29] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telegram-desktop/4.5.3+snap-0ubuntu1 : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/d69b3cb2/file_62872.jpg [17:34] A snap containing an Electron app? [17:34] * mamarley twitches violently