[04:34] how do I troubleshoot a stalled startup of a vm? This has been going for a few minutes now: [04:34] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0RapcLNC/ [12:32] nightstrike: hi, I don't see anything wrong in the log you sent. This smells like a network problem accessing the instance. Do you have by chance some VPN service or firewall running? [12:44] luisp[m]: it timed out after 5 minutes. I do have a vpn, not sure if it was connected at the time. The only thing I did differently between the last time it worked was reboot due to an OS update [12:51] nightstrike: this happens sometimes due to changes in the macOS firewall. You can try solutions like these: https://github.com/canonical/multipass/issues/2387 [12:51] In particular, I'd try first the solution posted by this user: http://skowronski.tech/posts/2023-01-30-macos-application-firewall-and-multipass-debugging/ [12:52] The tl;dr is here: http://skowronski.tech/posts/2023-01-30-macos-application-firewall-and-multipass-debugging/#tldr-or-executive-summary [12:57] Ok, I'll try tonight [12:57] Good, let us know how it goes! [12:58] As an aside, I got a second instance of x quartz running on display 1 [12:58] The problem was due to needing to code sign the copied app, which I couldn't do because I did a cp -r instead of -a [12:59] really! I'd like to know how did you do. We can add it to the Mac section of the document about X11 windows [12:59] I haven't yet gotten a new wm to run, but I did stop quartz-wm from running on it while not disrupting the normal one [13:00] I'll write it up in more detail tonight [13:02] Excellent! If you can do it, we can add it to the document [13:02] Thanks for the investigation!