But then you are looking at Lynch and Osweiler. I feel the competition was clearly won by Siemian over lynch but I think McCoy is the one that's not fitting in right now. Manning isn't here anymore and he seems to continue to teach that style. I am not at all surprised at the struggles. No matter who plays QB this year it's going to remain the same I feel. These guys are all too inexperienced in dealing with pass rushes.