Well, if i recall at least that one was BOT, so funded by private entitis until end of period. Not bad. I strongly disagreed with MATRA selection, being quite familiar with the Taipei MATRA line. But there again, it was private consortiums behind it, so taxpayers didn't have the full burden. It's like Fasi getting the bus system going. After a while it's back in public hands without huge capital costs up front. Gosh I miss that guy. He seems to have the knack for running this city. Ariyoshi ran a good ship as well. The state was quite solvent.