Hermetic, I made it clear that I do not defend the torture or death of any person, so your emotional assasination is out of place. Please just appreciate that south africa function within international agendas not under our control. It is like that even today. From Stalin, through Kruschev, Breschnev and subsequent soviet leaders africa particularly of 1973 became an international theater of power play. A lot of what is defined as apartheid crimes was actually a global fight against socialist expansion. There were much more going on than what appear at first sight. We need to educate ourselves on these historical events in order to conduct an informed debate.