I grew up in a family of  (Grandpa and Uncle) Loggers - from Linn County, I know the type well. 4WD's were rarely ever used to access logging roads, and in the summertime firewatch areas they are done before 1 pm, when they probably stop off for a couple cold ones at the local market and drive home. I don't ride my bike that often in the wintertime, so I can attest to the summertime traffic more accurately. And I am sure you cannot, with any surety say "EVER" in this context.

I am sure they are wonderful family men by and large, raising the next generation of hard drinking, tobacco chewing, weed smokers who destroy our forests.