Okay, I'll call them "willful mistruths" by the developers of both systems. HART never tells the whole story of what it will take to run the system and that the H1 from the westside will remain a disaster.   Also if you are going to bring up the earthquake, maybe you remember that in 1979 there was a fire in the BART transbay tube, and we in the east bay did fine continuing to get to work without BART,  because the east bay had and still has an outstanding bus transit system.  HART keeps talking about only having feeder buses to stations and eliminating some of the bus funding.  BART works because of AC Transit, Muni, SamTrans, and CalTrain.