muck, It gets worse the public sector unions agreed to remove public sector wages from social security. So new teachers and cops can work a lifetime and have no pension or social security when they are old. So greedy teachers and cops with pensions who were hooray for me and to bad for you are now working side by side doing the same job as the to bad for you teachers and cops with no pensions. The hooray for me crowd are not saying a word. If the conversation comes up the hooray for me crowd blames the state. The haves and the have-nots working side by side. Huge disparity. Completely unfair. Most of the hooray for me cops are gaming the union overtime now so they can retire in their early 40s and start getting $10,000.00 a month plus free medical for the next 50 or 60 years. So at least they won't be working side by side with the no pension crowd for long.This unfunded pension liability is huge. The taxpayers including the newbies can pay it.