What I said was they all have an ax to grind with wildlife law enforcement. I think that was a fair statement. As for membership on this panel, most of them have some experience in government (including the Board of Game and other official commissions) or law or at least have been officers of hunting advocacy groups. They should know something about the state's open meetings act. They should also have the wits to look around the room and come to the conclusion that they are an interest group with very limited public representation that is pretending to represent the public. As I said, all of them are hunters (a minority), all of them live on the road system (if not in another state), and most of them are or have been hunting guides (a very exclusive group). What gives them the right to organize a "blue ribbon panel" with state officials appointed by the governor's office to make secret recommendations to elected officials that affect all Alaskans. BTW, are you a panel member AkRes?