they are either saints or crazy, although oftentimes there is a thin line between the two, as pointed out by a much loved Franciscan spiritual director many years ago.     I couldn't take it any longer.  as much as I love St. Francis, his perfect joy is not for me.  if someone insults me and treats me as a poor stepchild, as did the church of JPII and Benedict, then I will leave and I did.   that partnered with the abuse I suffered and their response to that, did it for me.   and why I will never be able to trust any pope or bishop of the Church of Rome.