Well exactly. My neighbours went to residential schools, and they were nice people just like my other neighbours. Their kids moved on, had families, and no one ever went back to the reserve. From what I've seen, it's the reserve that's the problem, not residential schools. And I'm not saying there weren't bad things at residential schools. Senator Beyak obviously knows all this, but she gets shouted down by all the vested interests who receive money from the present system. It's unfortunate that there can't be an open discussion on these public policy issues.