I choose to call them under toads because the trolls were trolling for flame wars, whereas the toads sit in their holes and try to pull us under...so the under toads, plus when you pick up a toad it has one defense. I am a liberal and an educator so I feel for Carmen, she is in pain, very angry, hopefully we can get through this election without little d calling for war when he loses...I'm not holding my breath. Paul Ryan must accept that the man is the words and denounce the man.. And perhaps the call for respect and civility...again not holding my breath.