I thought I recalled you defending Kopp on a post not that long ago, "Saul."  I could care less what Owen did. He's not eligible to run for the legislature. He got what he deserved. Kopp on the other hand is, and his sorry record of inappropriate actions under cover of his office are or should be, an issue of public concern. The Whittier City Council had a couple of honest and bright members, back then when Prewitt, Weimar, Neeser, Pfeffer, Cowdery, Allen, Butler and the city manager and harbormaster were all elements of the intended scam on the taxpayers. The two unfortunately weren't in the majority and Butler was bought and paid for by the grifters, so they fought for four years to make it happen. Knowles and honest legislators on both sides of the aisle, such as Halcro, Berkowitz, Croft and Bud Fate were responsible for killing it, unlike theocrats like Mulder and Leman, no matter how much dough Allan and his family, and the crooks from Cornell Corrections, and Weimar spread around