Actually, if you stop and think about it, All Politicians--and please STOP and THINK about it!--the people you call the twin Liberal dopes are actually much, much smarter than most high-debt individuals.  The debt you talk about is at the "government level", right?  OK.  That proves my point.  The people you call Wynne and True Dope are USING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY in increased debt.  Can consumers say the same?  Not if it's THEIR name on the credit card, on the mortgage, on the car loan.