Just that Italians back in 1490s were very much refugees themselves and chooses to served a foreign power like Spain to make their mark on the world. That is it. Elise made much hoopla over the fact that people like Columbus went to Spain to get what he wanted. Columbus was a refugee who made good but Elise hold that against him by bringing up Spain all the time. Let us not forget that thanks to Columbus, Spain became the first global empire within 100 years after Columbus' first voyage. As an Italian-American and as a supporter of refugees of our time, you would think Elise would be proud of Columbus' achievements both as an Italian and as a refugee himself. And people born in Italy proper, even back then, were regarded as Italian even if they were born in Republic of Genoa, Kingdom of Naples or Papal States or whatever.