Neil,

Are you incapable of reading for content, or do you just enjoy deception? Where did I say I was "for the status quo?" I said I was part of the reality-based community who feels resources shouldn't be wasted on "solutions" that cannot work or have already been shown not to work.

And I've not confused AUS with Austria. Again, I noted that you're using a cherry-picked list of "developed" countries, mostly northern European, of which AUS is also a frequent member. Further, as I noted and you (deliberately?) ignored, if gun control was the -cause- of the lower shooting, and overall violence rates, in those cherry-picked countries, what you would see in longitudinal studies from -before their gun control laws- is a statistically significant change in their rates, or the rate of any ongoing decreasing trend, of such violence post-passage. Such measurable long-term decreases simply don't exist. Gun control is not, per foreign and domestic data, an effective public safety measure.