No no no. In Genesis is says God created "day" and "night" before he created the SUN and the stars. How can you have a SUNrise and a SUNset before there is a sun?

And again. I'm not the one making special claims here. I'm NOT claiming I KNOW there isn't a god. You're the one claiming you KNOW there is a God and you KNOW he created the stars and the galaxies and the light that it took us to see them OLD to BEGIN with. That is what I have issue with. You do not know that, any more than I could say I know what happened before the big bang, or what caused it. As I said it's physically impossible to know what caused the big bang - we have no way of doing that. It is the origin of all cause. That could be "god" or not. I don't KNOW.

I accept that logic and observation show us the universe is quite old by human standards. That's IT. No more claims are loaded into that. I know I have to assume a few things to get there, but I think it's a more solid assumption than yours. God or not.