Sorry Jerry - You are now going to have to accept some competition, the money train is coming to an end.  You say you want to talk, but I am sure you will not talk to the likes of us who do not want to send our kids to 4J do you ? DeVos is fully capable to hire a team of individuals who can get the job done, and that is a reality you and the Ivory Tower 4J board will have to get used to (if you make it). Jerry - Have you seen the graduations rates and proficiency in math and science, the you have the nerve to demean those of us who want a change ? I hope the U of O is next on the list.