HARTS nmbers are very misleading. 70000 trips sounds great until you figure only 60% are passes.  Passes have a montly, not daily value.   Taking the 2.1 million amonth for expected rail revenues and using the 60% for pass users is $1.68 million. Since HART admits 6 trips are required for a round trip for commuters, or  bus to station, train, station to destination, then reverse) and the rail andbus are supposed to be one and the same so 70000 trips/6= 11600 riders, 60% of which pay with a pass, or 7,000 pass riders.    $1.68 million/7000 pass riders is $240 average minimum.    Is Caldwell/Mufi/Carlisles folly worth 4 times what we're paying now...? How will the working poor afford $240 or $480 a month?  This does not take into account kid passes or elderly passes, which drives up the adult passes to the $285-$315 range.  What the hell are they thinking it's gonna be cheaper?  This is a huge ripoff!