I have not heard a single person say, "no other revenue source; don't touch the Permanent Fund."  What I have heard is, "Juneau, get rid of your spending habits before asking for money out of my pocket."  I have read reports indicating that from $3.5 to 4 billion would be a reasonable budget. Regardless of how you cut it, we only have a $4B deficit if we have a $5.2B budget.  Whether you choose 2004, 2008 or 2010 as your base-budget year, both the CBR and the Permanent Fund Earnings Reserve are there to assist in softening the descent without touching the current Permanent Fund structure or purposes.  Huge policy changes need to be made before those budget numbers can be achieved.  Another method is going back to the freezes of the '80's ... Wages (agreed to by the unions for the good of the state); Travel (bring the teacher up here if it's really necessary); RIPs and RIFs (Retirement Incentive Programs and Reductions in Force).  More importantly, do not remove the boots on the ground.