This argument is a red herring. Both Germany and New Zealand, which use MMPR, set the threshold at 5 per cent of the popular vote to gain a seat. Other countries set it a bit lower. The threshold can be established at a point to ensure fair democratic representation without giving a megaphone to extreme fringe parties. However, the Liberals, now in damage control mode, are frantically misrepresenting proportional representation and what the Canadian people told them in town halls across the country. Shameful. Never trust a Liberal!