OK, Fred, I hear you.  Ironically, we're on the same side, and I suspect both somewhat guilty of the same sins of pride, both offended by assumptions directed at us and our families, both with enough of a command of the language to be adroitly misunderstood by each other---However offended you may be at the comparison.  

I'm not asking you to capitulate to my viewpoint---far from it.  Just rendering my opinion for your edification, for what that's worth, which in this case doesn't seem to be much.  

On the other hand, I have always learned quite a bit from your viewpoint, and continue to be educated by your words in this exchange:  In that spirit, I offer my thanks.  Those lessons have justified the time spent in my very busy family life to engage in this discussion, and I consider it time well spent.