Jay how is it that you keep missing my point? At no time did I say that a reasonable, rational, civil post was not inherently hate. What I did say was that when people complain about something, especially when it comes to immigration or religion, they are better of posting reasonably, rationally, and civilly because when they don't, as is evidenced by numerous examples on this comment board, their post can easily come across as hate.

Just have a look at some of the over the top posts on the G&M site. The rating, the irrationality, the logical fallacies, the gross generalizations, all come across as prejudiced and hateful. If those posters took time to make a rational argument then they might have a better chance of getting their point across without appearing to be haters. That doesn't mean that a rational post is inherently free of hate. Read back from the top and I hope you'll understand better.