Facts are that very little of the Goose W Timber Sale area has ever been logged. The W sale was renamed after a tactical lawsuit was settled in the courts. It was formerly called "Wild Goose" because most of the units are inside a roadless and unlogged wild area greater than 5,000 acres in size. The Forest Service claims it's not a "roadless area" because a large part of that 5,000 acres is inside the HJ Andrews "Old Growth" Experimental Forest Reserve. The Lumber Service (Forest Service) clearcut most of the 200-400 year old trees when they built the logging roads decades ago but much of the area burned in a wildfire about 120 years ago. These 120 year old trees are exactly what the Seneca family needs to continue funding their race horse hobby and lifestyle.  It's sort of surprising that the logging outfit is from Idaho. Seneca owns at least 28,000 acres in Lane Co. Maybe they can learn to manage that land properly to create jobs in recreation and keep a smaller mill going.