TB9: "This drive by smear and hatchet job by left-lib and Trudeau trolls and troughers is as fraudulent and empty as the once vaunted treasure in Al Capone's vault and given the double standard here in what constitutes "civil comment" for lefties versus righties will continue to drive away not only civil but also rational and honest comment." 

If this is what you call "rational and honest comment", much less civilized debate, you need a course in rationality, honesty, and civilization.