BOTH the facts and I agree with Ward 1 ... JJP or ericnorstag or whoever she or he is have no clue about the facts surrounding the Hammond case. They were charged federally after the state of oregon determined that no crime was committed and refused to charge them ...then the govt charged them as terrorists under a statute that was intended for real terrorists and NOT ranchers who accidentally (as in not intentionally) burned just over an acre of "federal" land. Anyone familiar with that part of the state knows there isn't much to burn other than scrub and bald headed prairie. These men are not thugs nor are they terrorists and the governments depiction of them as both was criminal. I agree that it requires some seriously crazy logic posing as legitimate thought to think that they should spend almost 10% of their lives in prison for trying to save their winter feed with a back fire especially considering the harm the government does to the land over there with no repercussions