Yes, how do people judge efficiency? Ex vessel prices are but one aspect of the resource story. Take 100,000#s of halibut for instance. It'll take 20 cannery workers one day to process. Now take the same amount of halibut and turn that into 10 million pounds of ground fish. That will take up to twice as many cannery workers up to 50 days to process, while providing that much more fish to people that can't afford expensive seafood like halibut, salmon & crab. A lot of the Kodiak cannery workforce resides in Kodiak because of steady work schedules. Yes I believe those things the deckhands testified about. Theres times when stuff like that happens with observers on board and that discard rate gets extrapolated through the boats that don't have observers and are fishing cleaner. Most of the time the people that are new to a fishery are the ones who make the mistakes and have a higher bycatch rate because as with any fishery or job there is always a learning curve. Its a bit of a catch 22