and sometimes things can drag on very slowly...forever even.  all the NIMBYs have been pushed north and west over the years.  someone in a different related story mentioned Civic stadium.  i think that's perfect.  it's big ..close to buses, shopping....  until they figure out what's to happen to it, let it house some homeless.  maybe that will get the  civic's ball rolling real fast.  there's all that land across from the vet's hospital on chad and along chad..plenty of room out that way .