100% agreement - especially on the practice.     I used to do that as a 16 year old with a fresh license - doing donuts (or figure 8's) is actually great training.    I took my daughter out while she was still learning and she got a feel for what it's like when the car skids, and how the ABS feels, and how to control a car when it's slippery.     It's too bad there aren't more courses available for driver training like this.