How about that Outsider77, I agree with you! The only point where we diverge is that if Republicans had engaged in bipartisan negotiations in 2012 (and both dumped the corruption of lobbyist money), we could have solved this! Now the Democrats are returning the same favor. When will both sides get real and deal with the fact that it is about the costs - not excluding millions and millions of citizens from proper health care? Then we will be getting somewhere.