I dont disagree that insurers are wasteful and greedy, my issue is that governments have consistently showed that they cannot manage large programs efficiently with obamacare being a prime example of incredibly wasteful taxpayer money including punishment of those who still didnt get coverage through additional taxes on their tax returns.

nice idea to have universal coverage but again it goes back to who will pay?  its not free money. too many greedy lazy people already living off welfare and not contributing to the taxpayer wage base.  as the working population ages and stops paying payroll taxes due to retirement the smaller workforce left behind is going to have to shoulder the burden of higher tax rates to support the rest of the population plus those who have left the workforce due to retirement. 

if we did move to a medicare for all, there needs to be a counterbalance of weaning off the welfare population who find it easier to claim welfare than work for a decent days wages.