wade, ive been to barbers point and their example should be followed by the mayor. if you go to the va there, you check in for 30 days, no questions asked. if you check out before than, you are really out. if you stay, get help, food, shelter, clothing and if needed, counseling, they work with you to get you a job and housing. our hard core homeless are the ones most visible and the hardest to work with. there are lots of vacant buildings out there where the hard core, mentally ill, abusers and others can be taken care of. its peaceful and quiet and there is lots of empty spaces for people having a hard time being around others and it has bus service. vagrant laws can take care of those that refuse to abide by present laws. maybe we could pay the va to help us.