There's been no swapping of percentages. I provided empirical data & authoritative interpretations, including by a consensus authority; that all versus anecdotes & generalizations. I also accepted that there are normative implications, only suggesting we first need to establish consensus on the empirical descriptions one would then norm. You have read me correctly in anticipating that I do not impute all or nothing significance to the those implications as the problems they present do so in degrees. I don't deny those implications; I simply don't catastrophize them for reasons that can be gleaned elsewhere in this thread. So, we differ in how troublesome those implications are.  I'm more optimistic, yes.