Daryl Freeman, till he got knocked out, then got a gun to get even. William "willie" Medeiros, should be out this month from club Fed. The thing about these two guys, they don't care. If they do the bad thing, they only going home. State can't handle issues in senior citizens in prison. SA just had an article on the Gray Tsunami. I paddle with a crew of 60's....they can still some @##. In fact they think they 21. Tough trying to get a seat in that the boat. Some times I get bounced into the 70's crew.....cause one of their guys didn't come.....OHCRA now has a category for men 70's, the true Senior Men. Yup lots of tough old guys out there and some of the people you mention, they paddle.