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Assalamualaikum, welcome back again to English
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poetry. Last time we defined poetry. I gave you
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the chance to express your own thoughts about what
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you think poetry is. We also examined 12 famous
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English definitions of poetry. Today we will study
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our first official poem for the course. I know
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this is an English poetry course, but I always
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like to give my courses comparatively, in a
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comparative sense, so we can understand how
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different cultures, different poets, different
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ages do probably the same thing, more or less. So
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the first poem is by a Palestinian poet,
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Palestinian young poet and icon, actually. His
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name is Damir Barghouti. Probably you are all
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familiar with Tamim Al Barghouti's work. But
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before we go to Tamim Al Barghouti, I want to ask
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you again to tell me what definitions you remember
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from last time. Remember the 12 definitions. So
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which one do you still remember? Which one do you
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cherish? Which one do you consider to be probably
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the definition closest to your heart?
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Poetry is a criticism of life. That's one of the
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most powerful modern definitions. And usually
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think, I gave you this question to think of how
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the definition could possibly reflect the age, the
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time. If I say poetry is criticism of life, and I
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compare it to the neoclassicist definition of
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poetry, teaching and delighting. How are they
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related or not?
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Portrait is to take life by the throat. Does this
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indicate violence? What do you think? Because of
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course this is a metaphorical definition. Defining
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a language heavily based on metaphors, using
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metaphors, is not sometimes the wisest thing to
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do. But I think this is deliberately done. So what
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would you understand? I know some of you objected
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to this. And some of you love this by the way. So
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what does it indicate? Like taking life by the
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throat, of course metaphorically. Please. I think
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that means that you talk about anything that makes
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you feel that you want to make it out of it. If
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you have a feeling of anger or of sad or anything
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of the sort, so you want to get this feeling out
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so you can move forward. Okay, thank you. I feel
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like it means the poet was patient for a long time
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and it came to this moment when he said that's
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enough. He or she. Okay, so the moment comes when
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he or she, the poet, does what? Like he feels the
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worrying of being patient. Okay, thank you very
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much. The feeling of having had enough and finding
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a way to release this through poetry could be part
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of it. It's an expression of feelings and at the
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same time it gives you as a poet
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trying to make sense out of the mess around us,
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the chaos. Because yeah, this is an act of
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violence, holding someone, don't do this. But it's
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also an act of controlling the object, whatever
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you're dealing with. And life is uncontrollable.
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enough and you try to make sense out of the
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environment, out of life, probably this is some
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kind of controlling life. Another definition,
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please.
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Are you sure this is words worth, not someone
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else's?
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Okay, say it again.
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What's the definition again?
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Thank you very much. Please don't forget the
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second half of words worth definition.
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different schools have different opinions. You
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seem to believe in the romantic definition of
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poetry more than any other definition. One more,
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please.
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The rhythmical creation of beauty. Turning beauty,
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the abstract thing, into music. Still music is
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still abstract, but it's more probably concrete
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wind rendered in pottery. One more. Pottery is
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painting. Pottery is painting. But we don't use
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paints in poetry, but again, when we talk about
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imagery and images in poetry, the image is an
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imagery. In poetry, an image is something you can
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feel, touch, hear, or smell. So there is imagery
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in poetry that is similar to the colors and the
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shapes we do when painting. One more. And you like
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this? Yes. But did you have a chat with Rahaf
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about how good or bad this definition is? We had a
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chat, but we don't agree that Boolean words were
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the definition. Okay. I agree with that, so isn't
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it fine? So you couldn't come to compromise about
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this? No. Okay. Finally, please, somebody, yeah?
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Okay, so you like the definition that highlights
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the fact that poetry is different from prose
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because there is rhythm, there's music there. This
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is what basically makes it, because in rhyme
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sometimes we don't have rhyme in poetry. We don't
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have at least a regular rhyme in poetry. There's
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blank verse, there's free verse. But sometimes,
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and sometimes again we have musical prose. But the
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fact that you're emphasizing the music aspect here
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of poetry, that tells how I'm not sure how if you
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want to compare poetry personally with prose which
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one you you would be preferring here what do you
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think poetry or prose which one do you like
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reading more are you sure okay nice so I tried to
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summarize just to remind you that to choose five
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out of just probably basically randomly done here.
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But yeah, I agree that this is significant because
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with Sydney and the neoclassicists, teaching and
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delighting being a reason behind poetry and
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literature remained for more than a thousand
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years. Many people still believe today that the
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first purpose of writing, of poetry, of literature
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is to teach and delight. And then we come to your
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favorite definition, the spontaneous overflow of
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powerful emotions recollected in tranquility, the
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romantic definition of poetry. I know most of you
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like this, no offense to you, but we are at a time
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here, at an age where yeah, Overflow of emotions.
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I'm not sure at the end of this course or in two
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years, five years, fifteen years whether you
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believe literature to be or poetry to be not only
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an act of taking life by the throat, but an act
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of, I don't know, shooting life right between the
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eyes. as an act of protest. And then familiarizing
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and familiarizing, defamiliarizing things.
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Criticism of life, poetry is a way of taking life
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by the throat that you just mentioned. And the
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last time we ended the class with very significant
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points here.
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When you comment on poetry, criticize poetry,
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there are many ways to do it.
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But because you don't usually do it in an
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organized way, like academically, because this is
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you doing academic courses here. Sometimes you
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miss many points when you answer a question or
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talk about a point. All I want you to do is follow
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the academic logics here, where you go for the
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topic sentence, for example. When you say
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something, when you believe in something, when you
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see something in the text,
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go for the topic sentence which has the topic and
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the controlling idea and then many students do
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like jump from topic sentence to the examples
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don't do this or the evidence I usually say say
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something say it again in other words and then
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give examples or an example or evidence Meaning if
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you believe that the poem has, going back to Ali
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Abunimah's poem, if you say I don't believe Ali
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Abunimah is or the speaker in the poem is going to
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change. Most of you will always say, like, I don't
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think that the poet is going, the speaker is going
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to change because, for example, try not to do
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this. Try to explain what you mean by the topic
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sentence, by the main idea here you have. So if
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you say something in the first sentence, when you
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open your paragraph, try to make it general. This
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is usually you making a judgment. I could differ
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with you, I could agree with you, but that's not
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where I give or don't give marks. Please always
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differ with people. Don't just follow people's
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ideas and opinions. So if you say, for example,
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the speaker in this poem is not willing to change,
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or the text shows here that the poet is not going
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to change. What do you mean by this? Explain it,
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say something about it, say something to make it
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clearer. If the poet is expressing regrets,
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perhaps he's not going to be a different person
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later on after the poem. And then you go for, for
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example, and there are two types of evidence.
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Number one, textual evidence. Use the text itself,
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like the use of regrets as plural. This is
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evidence. The use of the past simple tenses. This
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is evidence. You tell me like in this word, in
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this phrase. I don't expect you to memorize the
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poems by the way, but I expect you to know these
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like little words and phrases. So in the poem, the
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poet did this and that. He said this and that. She
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said this and that. Regrets as plural could be
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used as evidence to indicate that somebody is
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willing to change. I don't have just one regret, I
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have regrets. Regrets, sorry. So the plurality
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here could be an indication that there is a
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willingness to change. Now the second type of
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evidence is based on thoughts, ideas. And again, I
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totally encourage you to express your opinions.
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But try to mix and vary here. In the same idea, in
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the same argument, try to use this and that to
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show that you are a critical human being. And
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again, going back to Ali Abunama's poem, you could
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say the poet is willing to change. Basically, the
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very act of writing the poem is an expression of
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change. At least if he doesn't want to change, He
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wants other people to change. Okay, this is what
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we did last time. Any question before we move to
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poem number one by our favorite poet, Palestinian
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poet Tamim Barouti. Please, someone. Go on. You
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said that the essence based on ideas. If I have an
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idea, I will prove it by the text. Yeah, that's a
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valid question. My idea is that when
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I say thoughts, how you feel about the poem,
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generally, personally. Because I know many people
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who say, no, anything you say about the poem has
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to be supported by textual evidence. Yes, but not
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always. So if you say that the poem Here the poet
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is trying to engage in a dialogue with somebody.
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Show me where the dialogue is. Who is he
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dialoguing with? Okay, but you could say the poem
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is a protest against patriarchy.
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differently, let's say Emily Dickinson, the use of
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dashes, the sharp, the short poems sometimes, the
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sharp images. I could maybe, this is where I could
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say I don't see it. But you could still argue that
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this is, for example, a particular woman writing
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against a particular set of beliefs. We'll see
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more with poems. Okay, so. Yeah, finally we come
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to this poem that I believe most of you love very
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much. So remember the four steps we usually do. We
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look at the poem, right? We recite the poem and
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then we try to understand the difficult meanings,
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the new meanings, the phrases, the expressions.
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poeticality of the text, the literary devices, the
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metaphors, the examined link between what we
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notice and what the poem or the poet says. So
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let's just look at the shape of the poem.
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stanza number two. We usually don't see poems Like
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this, they usually either follow this highly
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structured, highly organized form or this formless
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free verse, blank verse kind of writing. And this
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is stanza number three, four, et cetera, et
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cetera.
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Okay, so what do you notice? Please. Yeah. Okay,
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well, as you said, we noticed that the first
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stanza starts in a traditional, more of a
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traditional way, the old way, which is like the
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broken, I think you can say, verses, and then it
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goes to pre-verses, and I think this is very
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important. No, again, first stanza. How would you
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comment on this? How would you describe this part
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of the poem? Okay, even if you don't know Arabic,
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you could still guess that the sound here, the
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last three letters are the same and probably not
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always in Arabic they do usually but in English
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don't be tricked by the letters all we care about
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is the sounds we've seen again in Ali Abraham's
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poem there was I there was cry and there was sigh
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but the sound is what we care about and this is
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called the rhyme القافية the ending sound or
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sounds of a line or verse The sound here is
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phonetically transcribed I Despite the fact that
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the letters are totally not related In Arabic
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here, we have سورها تزورها دورها يضيرها سرورها
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only a rhyme because you will find a regular rhyme
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scheme. That's good. So there is regularity here.
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What else? Please.
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I'll come back to this. Again, my question always,
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my first question always is about noticing things
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without reading. Even if you don't read here, you
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still can guess that they're There's some kind of
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repetition in the last sound. Thank you very much.
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If you do this, the poem is going to look like
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this beautiful box that we want you to think out
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of all the time. It's a block. What else do we
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notice about the shape and the form of the poem?
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Please.
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Thank you very much. Each time is split in half.
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What do you call this? Thank you very much.
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Caesar. Caesar from Caesar, Caesarian.
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That's nice. All the lines are divided into two.
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All the lines end in the same three letters, same
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sound. Now, we look at the poem as we read it. So
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somebody please read the first stanza. Okay, Mara,
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could you speak up?
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So I said to myself, perhaps it is a blessing. So
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what do you see in Jerusalem when you visit it?
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You see all the possibilities it has, if you start
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from the side of the road that goes around it. And
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not every soul, when it meets its beloved,
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rejoices, nor does all absence make it go away. So
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if it rejoices before meeting it, then its joy is
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not guaranteed. When will you see the ancient
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Jerusalem again?
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That's beautiful. One more. Yeah, please.
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That's also beautiful. One more. I don't want you
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to make mistakes in the We are at the house of the
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Beloved, so return us from the house of the law of
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return and return. So I said to myself, perhaps it
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is a blessing. So what do you see in Jerusalem
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when you look at it? You see everything that you
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cannot possibly see, if it does not start from the
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side of the road around it. And not every soul,
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when it meets its Beloved, secludes itself, and
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not all the rest around it. So if it secludes
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itself before the separation of meeting it, then
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there is no guarantee that it will be happy. When
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will you see ancient Jerusalem again? Thank you,
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also excellent. So does the reading make a
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difference, the recitation, reading aloud? Does it
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give you any sense, the musicality of it? You feel
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that it's actually the same meter again and again.
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I'm not sure what bahar this is, what meter this
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is in Arabic. Probably mutafa'alun, mutafa'alun,
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fa'ulun, whatever. I have to check with some guy
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in the Arabic department. But we do say the same
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thing. And it's like musically speaking, we go up
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and down, up and down, up and down in the same way
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in the six lines. So when we read this, we could
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add to the fact that, again, highly irregular
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shape, regular rhyme scheme, the caesura in the
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middle, the gap, the pose. And then the music,
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this is what we call the rhythm, the music of the
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poetry. In Arabic some people learn to say the
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rhythm, rhythm. It's the same, the rhythm. Okay,
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so what else do we notice again? About the
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language, about what he says, the vocabulary, the
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choice of words, and other things. Please. Again,
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it's a physical thing because we don't know the
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meaning. Like, he talks about his beloved wife.
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That's an excellent thing to notice. This is a
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poem written I'm not sure how long ago, fifteen
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years ago or so, ten years ago. And the poet, in
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the other groups, I asked them to take the first
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line and to try to quiz the people around them,
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the people they know, your mom, your friends,
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somebody in the taxi, people studying something
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other than Arabic, people who don't know Tamim
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maybe, not familiar with the poem. So probably you
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need to go look under some rock here or there to
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find somebody who doesn't know this line. And ask
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them, can you guess who the poet is here? And
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please
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report to me. Tell me what they think about the
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author, the poet behind this. My guess is that
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many people, or at least some people, will not
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recognize to meme or will not relate this line to
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someone alive contemporary poet because of the way
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at least number one because of the way he begins
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classically many uh uh like many arab poets
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started their poems opened their poems in arabic
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we call it to begin in english you said the
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opening the beginning by beginning with passing by
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the home, the houses of the beloved and also
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standing over the ruins of a past tribe or
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something connecting the present with the past
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He's a classical way of beginning poetry. The
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Arabs did this many, many, many times in the past.
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When we're talking about 1,000 years ago, 2,000
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years ago. What else in addition to this? What
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else do you notice?
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Please.
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It's felt way the same. What's that?
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No, the foot is different from the lime skin. The
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same, we're not familiar with the meter here, but
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when we read it, it sounded the same. It's the
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same movement we do here. It can easily be sung,
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by the way. And that's why it's called lyrical
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poetry. Almost all poetry is lyrical because it
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can be sung. More about the words, the language.
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Yeah, please. He used simple language. The
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language is basically simple, true. He used words.
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This is simple language. What is the most
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difficult word here? يضيرها. يضيرها and ضرر, to
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harm something, to hurt something. Simple
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language, that's true. More.
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Please. He uses contradiction when he says أنت قاف
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و أخيك Okay. So the, the, there are a lot of
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binaries here, the opposites. He used many words
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to mean the thing and it's opposite. Like what?
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Like what? Yeah. Okay.
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There is here talqa and there is also, where is
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it? Same line. What else? Thank you very much. You
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dear. This is called binary opposites. Binary
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opposite, الفراق, لقاءه, what else? طبسر ترق طبسر
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ترق is the same الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب
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الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب
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الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب
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الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب
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الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب
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الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب
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الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب
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الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب
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الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب الحبيب
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الحبيب الحبيب
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الحبي
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A very important place to start in a poem. Try to
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understand the opposites in the poem. Can we find
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more, more opposites other than these? I think you
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can. If you dig deeper, please. Habibu Laadi, what
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else? More.
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Excellent, maralna again with the intention of
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being there, passing by to visit and then we were
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sent back, faradan, true, more.
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What else? Okay, go back to things you notice
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about the poem. Please. Okay, what is that?
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Please, respect your friend, yeah. Where's that?
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Okay, that's also beautiful. Here, I'm not sure
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who he means here by Marana, probably the poet
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with friends and family or with other people going
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to visit Jerusalem and again. But then the moment
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there is here hope of meeting somebody you likes,
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going somewhere you love. And then the enemy
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occupier sends him, sends them back, or at least
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makes it difficult to be there. And then he
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probably talks to himself here. The dialogue is,
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this is an internal dialogue, but it is still a
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dialogue. He didn't speak to someone else, to
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anyone else. I don't know why. That's a beautiful
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thing to notice. There is a dialogue. There is a
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dialogue. And again, this is the reply. He's still
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talking to himself, engaging in a dialogue with
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himself. More, please. I like the way at the last
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one, I like the meaning that If you say مَتَ
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تُبْصِرُ القُدسُ it's different from مَتَ تُبْصِرُ
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القُدسَ Yeah, yeah مَتَ تُبْصِرُ القُدسَ because
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we are the act I like the way that when you saw or
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when you see Jerusalem for the first time you feel
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like it will be in your memory for all of your
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life. Okay. Wherever you go, whenever you are,
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because this is again the power of imagination.
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This is the power of recollecting in tranquility.
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This is what it was. This is a romantic concept.
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More. He said that there are people who control
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the place that he Okay, so there is us, people who
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come to visit and also there are the enemies, the
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others, the others. Okay, please.
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Because it's one eye? This is a common expression.
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Even in English, you'll find people using just one
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eye. In my mind's eye, Hamlet would say, for
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example. But possible, yeah. Like using one eye
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just to mean the two eyes.
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We're not talking about reasons now. Let's wait.
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Let's just collect data, collect information.
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Let's see how things, you know. Go. And then
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finally we come to the possibility of a why
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question. The last two lines, conditionality.
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There is a condition here. If you see it, it won't
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be a guarantee you will be happy. It will please
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you. Whenever you see Jerusalem, if you see
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Jerusalem only once, even once, you'll see it
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wherever you go. That's true. If, please.
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I love this. No, wait. Don't jump. And this is
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again what I just said. Your problem is like, ah,
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he used different tenses, past simple and then you
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jump. Why would you jump to the second point?
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Finish this. Make it clear. So the tense is when
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you study a poem, it's important to examine the
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tense or the tenses and the shift from one tense
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to the other. This is part of understanding the
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poem. So here this is past simple tense. This is
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past simple tense. This is past. This is present.
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This is also present. This is present. Present,
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past, present, present, present, nice, past,
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present, future,
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future.
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And todiraha is also present. Could be possibly
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connected with the future. So a
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poem, short stanza in a poem that includes three
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tenses. Past, a lot of past. And some present and
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also future. Okay, so look at what we did here.
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Number one, we noticed this is the form. And we
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concluded that the form is highly irregular
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because of three things. Number one, the shape. It
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looks like a box, a block. And then the way it
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ended, it ended in the same sound or sounds. We
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call this rhyme, irregular rhyme. And also we
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noticed the the caesura, the break, the gap in the
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middle. By the way, old English poetry used to
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employ the same poetic technique, this device in
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the middle. But later on, they started using
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punctuation marks to create the caesura, the
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break. So that's number one. And then number two,
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when we read it, we felt that this is musical.
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This is poetry because of the way it reads when
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you recite it. And then we looked at the binaries,
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the opposites. We realized that there is Habib,
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Aadi, Ghiyab, Yalqa, Luqia, Tasor, Yudhir are like
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basically three or four major binaries, opposites.
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And then the language itself, one of you said this
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is simple language, but I'm not sure if you paid
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attention to this. The vocabulary, the diction
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here, you know the word diction from dictionary?
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The language, the poetic diction here is also
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inspired by old Arabic poetry.
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The words, the vocabulary, if you take them out,
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you feel that these are .. it doesn't mean we
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don't use them these days The way sounds
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like an old Arabic poet And then most importantly,
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I think, the fact that it begins, it opens with a
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very famous old Arabic way of starting poetry.
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مرنا على دار الحبيب، عنطرة بيقول يا دار عبلت
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بالجواي تكلمي، مظبوط؟ قايس ايش بيقول؟ امروا على
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دياري دياري ليلة، right؟ و قايس بيقول أرى البين
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يشكوه البين، البعد، فراق محبون كلهم، فيا ربي قرّب
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دار كل حبيباني، like the daar here, the house, the
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home of the people you love. This has always been
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there in Arabic poetry. Okay, more before we move?
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Where are the questions?
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Okay, thank you very much. This is a question,
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what would you see in your ceremony, you visit
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here or it? But this is not a question. This is
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not a question, this is conditional. This is the
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matter that means if or when, whenever or. So
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there's one question here, not more than one
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question. Now, the second part of the poem, See,
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what we do is that we try to notice things to
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build up a case to create patterns. To create a
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pattern or patterns. And then we move, for example
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here, we move to the second part to see if we find
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the same thing there. In order to try to answer
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your question here, Rosanne. Why? Okay?
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Yalla, let's see. What do you think? If you're not
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familiar with the poem already, I could have asked
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you to tell me if this is part of the same poem or
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not. Many would say, it's not the same. They don't
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look the same. It doesn't fit. Please.
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Before that, again, remember, always go easy.
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Shape, what do you see? Is this as structured?
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organized as regular as the first part.
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There could be a pattern. The thing with this, if
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you check online resources, you'll find different
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websites using different ways of layout for the
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same poem I saw websites going for making this one
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whole line, one whole line, because it's one
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thought and going for a long line في القدس باع
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وقدرة من جورجيا بريمون بزوجته يفكر في قضاء إجازة
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أو في طلاء البيت
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That's called spoken poetry or performance poetry.
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Spoken poetry. There is poetry that is meant to be
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delivered, performed by the poet himself or
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herself. It treats differently, totally
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differently. So number one, compared to the first
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part, this is kind of irregular. Do we have the
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same sounds or letters repeated at the end? So
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possibly there is no rhyme, at least there is no
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rhyme, or there is an irregular rhyme scheme. What
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else? What else do you notice? Say again? There is
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a lot of repetition, in Jerusalem, in Jerusalem,
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in Jerusalem, in Jerusalem, in Jerusalem, in
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Jerusalem. That's like how many in Jerusalem?
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That's six of them. More? Let's do the way we did
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with the first stanza.
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There's no break in the middle of the lines. There
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is no break. Although, again, sometimes the coma
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or a punctuation mark could function as a caesura.
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It doesn't have to be physical space. But yeah,
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there is no break in the middle of the line. More.
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Different lengths, true, so probably different
553
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musical pattern, different rhythm, different meter
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maybe, more Basically, thank you very much, no
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rhyme scheme, whether you ended here البيت أحكامها
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عشرين etc or زوجته بيته عليها أحكامها totally
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different There's no rhyme scheme, please A lot of
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Prepositions like what?
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okay I don't know why but I think yeah you have a
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point more please okay
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nice to notice this the last the last two lines
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rhyme more musical The last two lines, probably
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because this is بعمرات انت بيعرفيش ده في الساحات
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طول اليوم فالقدس ده بجمع المطر عليهم فوق الغيم,
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possibly But they're not the same, like the same,
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is it the same? No, this is a little bit
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different, we'll come to this, okay Not always,
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this is small, this is long, small, long, it
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varies, it's shapeless The second part is
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formless, probably this is blank or free verse.
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And then we come to the conclusion here, to the
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question, why is the poet using two different
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forms of poetry in the same poem? Why does the
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poet shift? Why does the meme here or the speaker
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shift? from a highly regular, highly structured,
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well-organized form of poetry to shapeless,
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formless kind of poetry. Is there a reason? And
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again, don't ask whether Tamim or the poet meant
579
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it or not. We deal with the text. I'm not sure how
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you reacted when you first heard this poem or read
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this poem. Did you feel that there was a jump, an
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abrupt shift?
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When it's read? No?
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Personally, when I first heard the poem online,
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Amir al Shu'ara, I was like, oh, there was a
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subject, probably because I'm specialized in
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poetry. I felt it instantly. I was like, there is
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a reason here. Why is he shifting? What's going on
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in the first stanza that we don't have in the
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second stanza, or vice versa? Please.
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Yeah, but this is not a poetic answer. I know at
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school you used to say to attract the attention of
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the reader. To emphasize these two things mean
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nothing because the question is why, again. And
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how. We just mentioned the how. But if you say to
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attract the attention of the reader, this is not a
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poetic answer. This is not a critical answer. This
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is a school answer. To emphasize the idea. Where
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is the emphasis? And what's the idea? This is what
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we do at university. So you have the repetition,
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you could say you have the repetition of في القدس,
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في القدس, في القدس to emphasize the idea. What
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idea? See my point? We usually give, we are here
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to learn, to learn how to be as poetic as
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possible. Please. Maybe it refers to Jerusalem
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itself. Say, say again. It refers to Jerusalem
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itself. What? The priest stands and it was highly
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organized. Nice.
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That's beautiful. More please.
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when I tried, and the first stanza he was
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describing puts from outside where there's the
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walls, and he depicted the walls with the rigid
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form, and then the second stanza, when he went
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inside, it's small alleys and haraj, and so he
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used the blank version. So what's happening from
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the outside? What can you see from the inside? And
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what is there inside that makes it change shape
618
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and form? Please. Yeah. Because I think that it's
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related to Jerusalem itself, like you said.
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Because when he used the classical way of poetry,
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he emphasized that Jerusalem is
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Uh-huh. And still, it still exists because he, you
623
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know, like Jews say that. We don't say Jews. It's
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00:44:17,180 --> 00:44:22,720
not about Jews. Israelis. The Zionists say that
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Jerusalem is for them, not for us. So he used
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first a political way to convince them that
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Jerusalem is ours. But the second, and she's Okay,
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00:44:37,290 --> 00:44:40,510
so you're connecting here the old form with what
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used to be, how Jerusalem is ours, bringing the
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past with the present. Thank you. He was trying to
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put us in the same kind of atmosphere that he felt
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at that time. He was expecting to see Jerusalem
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organized.
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Okay, I like this point. So point number one, the
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first part is the expectation that Jerusalem in
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our mind and heart, in our imagination, the city
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that we as Palestinians can't have, can't even
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visit, we have this beautiful, poetic, perfect
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image of Jerusalem. And that's why, that's how it
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00:45:27,220 --> 00:45:31,360
is from afar, from a distance. But once inside,
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Things are totally different. Please.
642
00:45:40,010 --> 00:45:45,550
What makes it unbearable here in the first part?
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Why is it that you can't endure things you see in
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Jerusalem?
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But he knows there is, he senses that there's
646
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this. But it's the enemies, the enemy occupiers
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that is making it probably unimaginably horrible,
648
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humiliating. So the first part here is organized,
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like some of you are suggesting, because this
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could reflect some kind of expectations. Yes, he
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knows, everybody knows that. I'm sure even the
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poet. In his imagination, he cannot deny the fact
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that Jerusalem is occupied. It's controlled by
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enemies.
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Okay, this is
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some kind of insistence that this is Awaz and we
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have the shape that we can make Jerusalem fit in,
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or I don't know, like insisting that Jerusalem is
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ours as much as these poetic traditions of the
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Arabs are ours, belong to us, more. I go with the
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idea of resistance, but at the same time, I think
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that it's more of an act of appreciation for the
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00:47:27,980 --> 00:47:30,840
old classical, where I'm saying, yes, I do
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appreciate this style of writing, but at the same
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time, I want to create my own style of writing,
666
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and he goes for the second and the rest of the
667
00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:41,440
poem. So you're saying that change here is because
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Tamim wants to be different from, to shift from
669
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the Arab traditions of writing poetry? Why? What's
670
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happening in the second stanza that makes him
671
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shift? That's the question.
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What's going on inside Jerusalem? Who is there?
673
00:48:07,810 --> 00:48:10,710
Okay, if this is a story, who are the characters
674
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:16,010
in the second part of the poem? someone from
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Georgia, someone from Abu Manhattan, someone from
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00:48:20,590 --> 00:48:26,310
Bologna, whatever this is, someone from Ethiopia,
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possibly around Ethiopia and someone from France
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or the UK or Brazil or Canada or Australia. The
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only person, the only Arab person and then also
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00:48:39,610 --> 00:48:45,760
the blonde tourists. coming to Jerusalem the only
681
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,180
person here is this poor nameless faceless woman
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doing stupid thing sorry there's no business no
683
00:48:53,260 --> 00:48:57,280
work is stupid work but she's selling this turnip
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00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:03,020
kind of thing it's not sage or thyme or olive oil
685
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or olive or something so in the second stanza what
686
00:49:06,220 --> 00:49:09,260
I'm saying here is that while the expectations the
687
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meme or like all of our expectations Have you ever
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00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:15,550
been to Jerusalem? I asked this maybe before. How
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00:49:15,550 --> 00:49:19,170
many of you? Like three? Oh, that's very few
690
00:49:19,170 --> 00:49:23,130
again. So the point is when you go there, for
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00:49:23,130 --> 00:49:25,630
whatever reason, you have these great expectations
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00:49:25,630 --> 00:49:28,990
like, wow, beautiful, the ancient city, our
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00:49:28,990 --> 00:49:32,550
eternal capital. But once you are there, and we
694
00:49:32,550 --> 00:49:34,450
know that there is the Israeli occupation all the
695
00:49:34,450 --> 00:49:36,930
time controlling it. But again, the expectations
696
00:49:36,930 --> 00:49:41,050
are high. When you go there, what do you do in
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00:49:41,050 --> 00:49:44,130
Jerusalem, basically? Of course, you could go eat
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00:49:44,130 --> 00:49:46,990
kaak or whatever first and foremost, but we go to
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00:49:46,990 --> 00:49:50,070
pray, thank you, to worship, because the
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00:49:50,070 --> 00:49:52,730
spirituality of Jerusalem, the place itself has
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00:49:52,730 --> 00:49:56,810
this sacred aura about it, spirituality. By the
702
00:49:56,810 --> 00:49:59,690
way, if you Google Jerusalem syndrome, there's
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00:49:59,690 --> 00:50:02,350
this crazy thing that people believe in that if
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00:50:02,350 --> 00:50:03,970
you go to Jerusalem, you're going to lose it
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sometimes. Some people lose it because of, I don't
706
00:50:06,990 --> 00:50:11,520
know why. So you go, you pray. Yes, you take
707
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pictures. And you take pictures with the top of
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the rock, with the famous stairs there, the
709
00:50:18,940 --> 00:50:22,880
scenery, the old places, the souks, the old
710
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,580
streets and alleys. You don't go take pictures
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with stupid Fijil here. I love how Tamim is using
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Fijil. Because those tourists, those enemy
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occupiers, those intruders do not understand the
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00:50:41,870 --> 00:50:45,050
nature of the city. The traditions here, the
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00:50:45,050 --> 00:50:49,450
heritage is that as Palestinians, zaatar, rehan,
716
00:50:50,070 --> 00:50:57,900
mint, sage, thyme, These are identity things
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issues. Fiddle, you could live for two, three
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00:51:00,020 --> 00:51:02,160
years without eating fiddle. But those people say,
719
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,380
wow, let's take picture with this woman selling
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00:51:04,380 --> 00:51:10,080
this grenade kind of thing. So I'm suggesting is
721
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,540
that. And look at this man. What is he doing? He
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00:51:12,540 --> 00:51:18,980
came all the way from Georgia to fight
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with his wife here. I think we have had enough
724
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,070
fights with our wives. We don't want more people,
725
00:51:25,210 --> 00:51:31,230
more negativity. Planning to do what in Jerusalem?
726
00:51:32,070 --> 00:51:34,410
This is unfathomable. To me, this is unfathomable.
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Many people who say like, if I am in Jerusalem, if
728
00:51:36,930 --> 00:51:38,870
I were in Jerusalem, I would be just, I don't
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00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:42,630
know, resisting all the time, probably praying all
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00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:48,860
the time. The spirituality comes first. And then
731
00:51:48,860 --> 00:51:51,580
the old man coming all the way from Upper
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00:51:51,580 --> 00:51:54,600
Manhattan, teaching people who came all the way
733
00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:00,020
from this place. And look at this guy from Africa,
734
00:52:01,180 --> 00:52:05,380
closing Jerusalem should not be closed. No place
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00:52:05,380 --> 00:52:07,920
of worship should be closed or controlled this
736
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,220
way. And look at the gun, the machine gun.
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00:52:11,730 --> 00:52:15,310
Remember, there's the other poem, Jadatul, I'm
738
00:52:15,310 --> 00:52:18,530
going to call her Jannatul, she's nine years old.
739
00:52:19,310 --> 00:52:25,390
She isn't 18 years old, she's nine years old and
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00:52:25,390 --> 00:52:28,970
nine years old. This is how small and little she
741
00:52:28,970 --> 00:52:32,890
is, young she is. This man, the machine gun is on
742
00:52:32,890 --> 00:52:35,930
this settler because compared to the gun, the gun
743
00:52:35,930 --> 00:52:43,810
is even bigger than himself look at this not even
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00:52:43,810 --> 00:52:45,990
someone like deliberate because we've seen like
745
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:48,970
we've seen christian zionists familiar with this
746
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concept christian zionists christians who believe
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00:52:53,210 --> 00:52:55,970
that the jews have to convert to christianity at
748
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the end of the day they love israel not because
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00:53:00,730 --> 00:53:02,350
they love israel but because they hate israel
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00:53:02,350 --> 00:53:04,490
because they believe that at the end of the day
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00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:10,590
All Jews should come to Palestine, to Jerusalem,
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00:53:10,730 --> 00:53:14,150
to Palestine, so they can convert to Christianity.
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And the people around Trump are some of them. So
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00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:23,010
those people and even some, I don't know, some
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00:53:23,010 --> 00:53:25,330
Jewish Zionists from the end of the world, they
756
00:53:25,330 --> 00:53:27,590
come here, they don't just come for the
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00:53:27,590 --> 00:53:30,630
spirituality of Jerusalem, they just But I know, I
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00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:32,250
believe that some of them are religious people and
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00:53:32,250 --> 00:53:34,530
they believe in this. But others just like they
760
00:53:34,530 --> 00:53:35,930
want to show off, they want to take the picture.
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00:53:36,370 --> 00:53:39,890
And many, many times they come here on free tours,
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00:53:40,270 --> 00:53:46,710
the birth, birthright, paid. If I tell anyone of
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00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:49,830
you, okay, let's go on a paid tour, you just pay
764
00:53:49,830 --> 00:53:53,750
nothing. Two months, one month, you go anywhere
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around the world. Many of you would be willing to
766
00:53:56,250 --> 00:54:01,870
say, okay, I'm in. But be careful because
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00:54:01,870 --> 00:54:05,190
sometimes you will be like destroying others like
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00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:10,130
those Zionists are doing. And again, the blonde
769
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foreigners coming here, just they don't see
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00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:18,210
Jerusalem. And that's why Tamim says, somewhere,
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00:54:18,350 --> 00:54:22,430
they don't see Jerusalem. Because there are two
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Jerusalems. The Jerusalem that is ours, belongs to
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the Arabs. Christians or Muslims by the way,
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because he will be emphasizing and this is a
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feature of Palestinian poetry about Jerusalem.
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I've noticed this all the time. If a Palestinian
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poet writes about Jerusalem, there are always
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Christians and there are always Muslims. There's
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always the church, there's always the mosque,
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there's always the Bible and there's always the
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Quran there because Jerusalem unites us, brings us
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together. But it's the Israeli enemy occupier that
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is destroying the very fabric of Jerusalem. that
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is turning this well-structured beautiful place
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that should be beautiful, should be as we imagine
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it, a place for all that unites. The existence of
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those outsiders is destroying the structure of the
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poem as much as it is destroying the structure of
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the very essence of our lives, Palestinians. Okay,
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before I move to the second question, you want to
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say something? I was going to say something about
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the pattern, why I think it changed. In the first
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stanza, basically he's not describing anything,
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he's just stating ideas and thoughts. And in the
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other stanza, we find descriptions. So what I
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think happened is that If he used the classical
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style, the description of the modern view would
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seem like an archaic picture. So he shifted to a
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more modern way of description in order to give us
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a sense that this is the present day. To not make
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the... A sense that is chaotic and messy. No, like
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if he used the classical style, a description, and
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using the same way, maybe the picture Are you
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suggesting that Arabic poetry, classical Arab
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poetry is incapable of describing this in this
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way?
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Okay, so this is going back to attracting the
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attention of the readers. The classical Arabic
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poetry is capable of describing modern pictures,
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but if we're going to describe something that's
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going on, something chaotic, as you said, I think
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he did the right thing by using- By taking out the
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structure? Yeah, taking out the structure. And
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again, this is what some of you already suggested,
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that the fact that the Second Sun is dominated by
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outsiders invading intruders, the Zionist
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occupation, the enemy occupier, destroys the very
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shape and form and fabric and structure of the
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poem. But other than this, if you look at the
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first poem, some of you suggested that here we
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have the past, present, and future. I think Tamim
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is also trying to connect Jerusalem with our past,
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our future, and our present. The fact that he's
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using this, again, Arabic tradition, traditional
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form, he's basically connecting, I think,
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connecting Jerusalem with our identity as Arabs.
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Again, whether Muslims or Christians. And again,
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maybe he's saying, he's implying that if we want
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to have Jerusalem back, we have to go back to our
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roots. Arabs have never been united. But in the
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past, we were a lot bitter than now. Because
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today, we're not only fighting against the Israeli
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enemy occupier, we're also fighting against,
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because sometimes we are hurt more by ourselves
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and by Arabs around us, the Arab regimes. Sadly,
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normalization with the occupant. So this could be
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an indication that An indication that we need to
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go back to our roots. We need to go back to our
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past, to our origins as Arabs, in order to have
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Jerusalem back. And that's why probably basically
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the past simple, the present simple, and the
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future simple tenses are used here. And I want to
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go back to the dialogue here. Yes, there is a
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dialogue in the first tense, although it's a
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dialogue made up between an internal dialogue.
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Monologue, what's a monologue? Between yourself.
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So you and yourself, it's basically some kind of
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dialogue also.
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But here, look, we lose the dialogue. We lose the
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00:59:10,140 --> 00:59:14,160
dialogue. This is a monologue now, monologic. It's
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one way. There's one image, sorry, there's one
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worldview here dominated by the occupation, the
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00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:27,740
occupiers. There is one worldview in the second
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00:59:27,740 --> 00:59:33,140
part. One party dominating everything. Even when
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Arabs are mentioned, they are only on The margin,
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00:59:37,810 --> 00:59:42,430
a street vendor selling something exotic, not that
857
00:59:42,430 --> 00:59:44,970
I'm suggesting that Fijil is exotic, but something
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00:59:44,970 --> 00:59:50,430
that would attract the tourists. Wow, what is this
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00:59:50,430 --> 00:59:53,570
woman selling? Let's take pictures with her.
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00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,040
Suggesting that for them, this figel is probably
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more precious, more attractive than Jerusalem
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01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:08,180
herself. Let me say instead of itself. One more
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01:00:08,180 --> 01:00:10,460
thing, please.
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01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,700
There is nostalgia. There is a sense of nostalgia.
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That's also one way of potting it. Freeing. We
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01:00:52,530 --> 01:00:56,970
need this kind of freedom. But we don't have it.
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Someone else, an outsider does. I read the first
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standard and the second that he went like I
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imagined that he is when he is outside Jerusalem
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he um uh he wrote in a poetic very poetic way
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01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,860
organized way to show how he imagined it as very
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01:01:16,860 --> 01:01:20,620
beautiful but when he came in he he became
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01:01:20,620 --> 01:01:24,640
disappointed because uh what he saw like many
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01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,440
things like not what he imagined he imagined like
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01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,820
people who pray people who uh worship him Okay,
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01:01:31,940 --> 01:01:33,920
thank you very much. I'll jump, just give me two
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minutes, so we finish this class. I'll jump to
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01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,640
this last image very quickly.
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And look at how beautiful the imagery in Tamim is.
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01:01:50,860 --> 01:01:52,980
I think he's unmatchable in many ways.
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01:01:55,580 --> 01:01:57,540
وَنَوَافِذُن تَعْلُوا الْمَسَاجِ دَوَا
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الْكَنَائِسِ Yeah? الناوافذ The windows, you know,
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the windows on top.
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01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:11,270
What are the windows doing? They're holding. This
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is a personification, you know, person, personify,
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01:02:13,830 --> 01:02:16,370
personification, to talk about something as if
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01:02:16,370 --> 01:02:22,430
it's a human being. Holding what? Somebody's hand.
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01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,540
It's a metaphor, a personification. But whose hand
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01:02:26,540 --> 01:02:31,180
is this? The hand of the morning. So this motherly
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01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:35,240
window here is holding the hand of the baby-like
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01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,940
morning at birth because the day is still young.
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01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:43,760
This is a double metaphor uniquely done,
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01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:52,610
masterfully done by him. by Tamim because in
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01:02:52,610 --> 01:02:56,850
Palestinian ancient mosques and churches there's
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01:02:56,850 --> 01:03:00,830
the mosaic you know windows with yellow and blue
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01:03:00,830 --> 01:03:06,790
and green and very colorful mosaic so the windows
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01:03:06,790 --> 01:03:11,620
are saying Because the day, the daylight is
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01:03:11,620 --> 01:03:14,840
colorless, right? It's colorless. So it's like,
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01:03:14,860 --> 01:03:16,760
you know, you go to your grandma and she looks at
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01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,520
you, look at you all thin and she keeps stuffing
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01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,620
you with food. And it's like, what? You're
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01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:26,980
colorless here. If you come here to me, this is
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01:03:26,980 --> 01:03:30,000
how you become colorful. You pass by me from one
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01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,660
side, outside to the inside, and then it's all
905
01:03:32,660 --> 01:03:36,340
colorful. But this is still a kid, a baby, day.
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01:03:38,220 --> 01:03:41,600
And again, this is another dialogue here. But this
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01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,120
is not the dialogue that ends with, you know, a
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01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,810
lot of bloodshed. حتى إذا طال الخلاف وإن طال
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01:03:47,810 --> 01:03:51,390
الخلاف تقاسمة فالصبح حر خارج العتبات if the day
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01:03:51,390 --> 01:03:54,890
wants to stay outside the window you're free you
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01:03:54,890 --> 01:03:57,710
do whatever you want you be the way you like but
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01:03:57,710 --> 01:04:00,410
if you get inside the mosque under the dome
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01:04:00,410 --> 01:04:05,390
through the window فعليه أن يرضى في حكم نوافذ
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الرحمن and I love the word نوافذ again here it
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doesn't mean It doesn't mean windows. Nawafidhar
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01:04:12,780 --> 01:04:15,840
Rahman here means the orders, the commands, the
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01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,380
will and the wishes of God. And this is in English
918
01:04:19,380 --> 01:04:25,100
called a pun, a word with two meanings playing on
919
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:28,800
this thing. Look at the imagery, look at how
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01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:36,030
concrete this is. Some of the most beautiful
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01:04:36,030 --> 01:04:40,030
poetry ever. I'll stop here. My question for you,
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other than again trying to connect the reason why
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01:04:43,970 --> 01:04:48,470
Tamim is shifting from a well-structured stanza in
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01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:53,650
the opening to a formless stanza, what are the
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01:04:53,650 --> 01:04:57,270
features of Palestinian literature as seen in
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Tamim's poem? Listen, if some of you are
927
01:05:00,650 --> 01:05:02,970
interested in doing research paper, optional, I'm
928
01:05:02,970 --> 01:05:05,230
not saying this is part of the class assessment.
929
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If some of you are interested in doing a research
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01:05:08,170 --> 01:05:10,590
paper, come to me. We can talk about these things.
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We can examine dialogism in Tamim. We can examine
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how Christians and Muslims always come together.
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We talk about features of Palestinian poetry and
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literature. I'll stop here. Thank you very much.
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If you have a question, please ask. And for next
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class, We're going to do an English poem from the
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16th century, Who Saw Listle Hunt?
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