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To shift from one mood to another, Because, you

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know, what upsets me, like, is like some students

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do not do their reports. This makes me mad. But I

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don't want to be mad. I want to be glad, you know,

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with a student who seems to have written something

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poetic. Okay, good.

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My daily report. When I remember the lecture last

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day, I become so optimistic by this way. The

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previous lecture was rhythm and rhyme. I prepared

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a lot to that lecture, which has a nice sight and

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style. As usual, the lecturer asked who wrote the

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daily report. I began to wait with some confusion

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and can't control. After a short time of waiting,

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my heart began to hurry up and I wished to fly.

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because of the shockness and frightness that I

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felt for the first time. In spite of this, our

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kind teacher motivated me by saying, you are good,

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do not be shy. I finished the poem with some

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repetition of the sound mind. He gave us a new

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hope to activate our mind. He encouraged us by

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saying, whatever you say will be right. Time is

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over, the teacher thanked us and the class is

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finished. He said, you should prepare for the next

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time or you will be punished. Okay, thank you. I

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didn't like threaten, but I want to motivate you.

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It's good. Thank you very much for like having

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this positive attitude. Let's see somebody who's

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willing there. Yes.

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Assalamualaikum. When I sit to write my report, I

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remember the last lecture and some student when

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read their reports, which write it in about it

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way. I tried to write my report in that way, but I

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think writing a poem is a gift. Not anyone can

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write it. But still you can experiment, you know.

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I know you might be gifted. Who knows? Maybe.

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Okay, not anyone can write poem or verses, maybe

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if I read more, teach more about poetry or maybe

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at the end of this course I can write couple of

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verse The last lecture was very interesting

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because we learn new things about rhyme and

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rhythm, it is very important because we should

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apply it in the whole poems Okay, thank you very

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much. I would be satisfied with like these two

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reports. I know like many of you wrote wonderful

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reports, but this is like the trick. It's like to

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get you to write and, you know, keep it because at

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the end I'll collect all of them and just look at

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the way you're writing. Good. Today, we're going

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to see Sir Philip Sidney and his poem, Litany. But

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I know you have read much about Sidney. You have

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read the poem. You have read Spencer. Because this

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week, we are doing Spencer as well. So I need

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somebody who thinks she has a wonderful response

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to Litany.

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And then I can come to you and see what kind of

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responses you have. Okay. Love is dead. That's

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what Sir Philip Sidney said. It truly reflects how

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he revealed sadness, anger, and regret. God, Lord,

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deliver us. It was hearty prayer rather than

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expression exasperated. Cursing love is what he

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meant. Pity and fear is what I sensed. Alas, fear

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the pain of love is what we shot. Then I read the

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sarcastic shift. He got rejected. It wasn't

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something he did, but because of his mistress'

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wit. So love isn't dead. In her mind, she's

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waiting for Mr. Right, for Mr. Right. And I hope

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she'll never find, because I'm sick of something

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called one love side. Okay, good. This is, you

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know, a wonderful parody. You know, it is as if

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she's giving us an example of a parody. But like

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her critique, you know, this is a critique of the

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poem. It seems like she is denouncing the poet.

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She's not happy with the poet, you know? But let's

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see, perhaps some of you have different point of

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view. Okay, just like I need you to talk, you

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know? Yeah, what do you think? No, just my eyes.

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You read the book? Again? Okay, but I know It's

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like they love to talk. OK. For my reading, I

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found the theme is about Cordial love. It is about

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one-sided love. And his beloved rejected him. And

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he decided to write a poem to describe it, to

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describe his death and stuff like that. So it is

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very traditional Cordial love poem, do you think?

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And is he like reading the same way other poets

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read? More than. More than. He's like very, like,

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he's crazy. Yeah. That's scandalizing. Yeah. He

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was very serious. You think that he's exaggerating

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things. Good. OK. Let's see someone else. What do

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you think? Yes? The thing that he used to express,

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he used too much figurative speech to strengthen

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the idea, strengthen the pain or the emotion that

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he wanted to transfer to the reader of the other

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people. He used too much figurative speech.

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So his home was full of figures of speech? And you

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like his style? Yeah. Do you remember any of these

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figures? Yeah, one of them is dead. Which is like

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what? Personalization. And it's very bizarre, very

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funny, very irrational. Come on, give me a break.

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It's crazy. But I think later about this,

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assumption is very critical when we see the whole

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atmosphere. I don't know why you don't like the

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atmosphere. It's very cloudy and you feel like

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it's really dark. It feels like it's pouring into

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your heart something like really bad. Yeah, why?

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Like pinching your heart or something. But I think

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you know what aggravates the whole situation is

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like It's like a killer, isn't it? Killer, the

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anger, the violence coming here. So I think he's

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exaggerating about it. He's angry with all women.

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Do you think he has a point? Do you think

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he has a point?

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So he's judgmental and you don't like it I think

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you know at the end of the poem he changes by the

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direction Yeah, so he back up and some say I'm

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sorry I You know, I didn't mean that, you know.

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No, I'm not that crazy, you know. So did he say

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that? No, I don't think so. You don't think so?

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Okay. He considered that I should protect him from

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women and he considered that women are all

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resources for him. Yeah, but you're right, but I

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think later he backed up and he started to say,

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no, it is like I didn't mean this, you know, I was

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angry and this is what made me commit such a

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folly. You see what I mean? I mean, this is very

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confusing, isn't it? Good. And let's see. Yes.

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Somebody else. Like still mind where? Yes, please.

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As crazy as the poet. I'm not going. Okay, good.

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So I see that some of you are not happy with the

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poet. Some of you are not happy with the

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atmosphere of the whole poem. It is very sad. very

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morbid you know however it seems like some of you

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the other are like and do not share the same

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opinion some of you like think it's a good power

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so yeah I think he has a point because you know

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he's a man who seems to be very noble and you know

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he's rejected because you know what like all you

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know because the lady seems to be scoffing, the

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lady seems to be arrogant And I think he gave

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enough reasons why he was not happy with her.

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I think yes, when Amal is going to talk today,

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she's going to tell us about, you know, you know,

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Sydney as a, you know, a courtier, as a noble, as

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a sir, as a warrior, you know, he was he was like

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a man who some of the spirit of the Elizabethan

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idea of man as a paragon, as a wonderful. So yeah,

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he was like many things in one thing. He was an

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exemplar of what an Elizabethan man should be. And

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again, we'd see how he was trying to fit himself

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with the cultural norms of the time, like

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courtiers should be educated, should be

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intellectuals, should be lovers, should be

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knights, should be, you know, that was a holistic

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idea of like, you know, a courtier or a courtier

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lover. Good. Yes? I think the poet succeeds to use

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a very confusing and choosing the best figurative

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language to express and achieve the theme of this

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poem. And he used black elements in the poem to So

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you were attracted by the aesthetics, you know?

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What is like the most memorable line you have in

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the poem? Love is there. God, Lord deliver us.

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God, Lord deliver us. Like it's a prayer. It is a

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supplication. Have you ever seen supplication?

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Somebody like making supplication like this. Very

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good. Yeah, hold on please. Yes? My initial

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response, I felt like he was really depressed. And

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I felt like he was just trying to pour himself

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out, to get people to feel what he's feeling.

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Because all the words that he used, like infected,

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disdained, rejected, ungrateful. So do you want to

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say, like, he was sentimental? Yeah. And he was

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trying, like, to exaggerate his, you know, ordeal

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in order, like, to get the sympathy of the people?

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Hey, come, come. It's a possibility, but however,

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sometimes when pain and agony are too much to put

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up with, you might use this method. So we don't

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know. He might be exaggerating, and he might be

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honest. This depends on the relationship.

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You were attracted by the title literally. What is

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a literary by the way, you know? It is a sad song.

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It is a sad song, yeah.

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Yeah, you think it was like a funeral, you know?

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Yeah, so you were attracted with the title? Good.

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Any other response from those who are at the back?

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Yes, please. I think that he's an anti-feminist

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poet that he asked young to protect the society

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and to protect women from the... So you're not

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happy, so you think he's anti-feminist. I think,

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you know, later he started to, as we said

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previously, say, no, I'm sorry, you know, women

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are not like crazy, women are witty, you know, and

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this is like a foolish mistake I committed. We

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should respect him.

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Is he ambivalent? Is he having two contradictory

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feelings? Is he sarcastic? Is he ironic? Because

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sometimes you might be ironic. So we have to

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really read the poem and to see and perhaps to

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know. more about Sir Thomas Wyatt, his style, his

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position, the position of woman, because, you

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know, I think, you know, Elizabeth was a woman.

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Elizabeth, the queen. He was, you know, I mean Sir

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Philip Sidney was like, you know, favorite to the

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queen, was favorite, like, we are going to listen

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to this, and he was like a nice man, so I don't

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think He would be crazy enough, like, to denigrate

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women. Perhaps, like, I don't know, in the Ezekiel

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time, you know, this ambivalent attitude was

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prevalent, you know? You know, Mary, you know,

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Jesus, you know? Mother, Queen Elizabeth are

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women, so they are examples of virgin women. They

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are ideal. Then we have on the other one, man,

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woman as a mistress, as this. So there was some

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contradiction. There was dichotomy. You know what

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is dichotomy? The virgin. Okay. So I think I don't

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want to dive deeper without having little

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background. So we are going to see little

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background about the poem. And then to see the

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poem itself, to read it together, and to explore

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further your response.

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So Amal is having something for us. Yes, please.

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What do you want to say, Amal? I want to talk

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about Philip Sidney. At first, Philip Sidney is a

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poet, a soldier, and one of the most prominent

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characters in the Elizabethan Age. The reason why

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I mention that he was a soldier is because it is

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what gave him the title Sir or Sire. It was given

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to soldiers at that time, at that court. He was

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very much interested in politics and in arts. that

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he worked for the Queen Elizabeth I and as he said

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he was the favorite for her. He traveled through

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Europe, Italy, France, Germany where he met a lot

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of intellectuals and of course politicians. Philip

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Sidney encouraged a lot writers and poets at that

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time, especially Edmund Spencer, who dedicated a

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song, a poem after that for him, which was called

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The Shepherd's Calendar. They say that when Philip

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Sidney started reading that poem, he was so much

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fascinated that he ordered, after reading the

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first stanza, he ordered 200 pounds to be given to

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Edmund Spencer, which was a great honor for him,

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of course. After that, for some reason, Sir Philip

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Sidney retired from court and working for the

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Queen, and then he started writing his works. He

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wrote Astrophel and Stella, which is the first and

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famous English sonnet sequence. It includes 108

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sonnets and 11 songs. As any other poet at that

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time, Sir Philip Sidney was too fascinated and

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influenced by Petrarch and his conventions that he

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actually, he followed the Petrarchan rhyme scheme

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in a lot of his sonnets. Wait a minute, like

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Astrophel and Stella, like this is a collection of

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sonnets, I think. We have 108 sonnets. And you

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know, Stella means star, I think. And Astrophel

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means the lover of a star. So are we talking about

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like a collection of poetry which we can call love

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poetry? They say that he dedicated a lot of his

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songs to his love, to his lover, a girl. Yeah, I

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think Penelope de Vorex. Yes. If you remember my

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name, Penelope, Penelope, Penelope de Vorex. You

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know, it seemed like there was saying about like

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he when she was 13 that he was the one who was

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going to marry, but they never married. And you

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know, she married to another anyone. But like you

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see, that love did not succeed or that marriage

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did not succeed and you know like Sidney and this

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lady became you know like they remained and he

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dedicated the whole volume for her okay. After

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that he wrote The Countess of Primbrock's Arcadia

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or the Arcadia or other words they call it the old

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Arcadia. It is a long prose work that is basically

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a romance that combines pastoral elements with

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some Greek elements called I believe Hellenistic

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or something like that. In it he highly idealized

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the life of a shepherd and he also talked about

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some treachery, rapes, battles and kidnapping. So

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this is like a way this is what we call Pastoral

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poetry, which is away from the complication of the

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city life, as if he, you know, Osama bin Laden was

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criticizing the complexity, the corruption of the

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city life. So we're talking about a new genre, and

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I think, you know, Sir Philip Sidney was like, you

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know, wonderful in this genre. Okay, I think you

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have something about his defense of poetry. It is

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one of the most important contributions to the

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English literature as a whole. In it, he addressed

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the objections of Plato. As we all know, he didn't

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like poetry a lot. So he addressed these, he

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defended poetry in this. And also, he also talked

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about how poetry is noble, the nobility of poetry,

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that poetry, poetry is for teaching and delighting

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and horrors. I think he was, you know, responding

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or he was trying like to respond to the accusation

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of, you know, the Puritan critic Stephen Gossen,

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who accused poetry as being the mother of lies,

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being immoral, being, you know, just like this at

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some point. But I'm interested, like, how he

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refuted, like, you know, Gossen's allegation about

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poetry being the mother of lies. What did he say?

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He said that poetry is the only genre or the only

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branch of knowledge which never tells lies,

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because it never tells what things are, but how

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things should be. Because, you know, very good,

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you know. He says that poetry has the power to

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move people to be more virtuous and virtuous

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actions. But I don't think he was the only critic

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of the time. There was another critic called

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Pottenham. You know, he was also a critic and he

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wrote a book about the art of poetry and the art

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of writing poetry. He was much more philosophical.

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But it's good here we have the rise, we could say,

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of criticism. So look here, we are dealing with a

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very intellectual poet, a critic, a poet, a lover,

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a courtier, as we said. And you mentioned Spencer,

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like praising him, but I would mention also

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Shelley, you know, the romantic poet who said, you

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know, as he lived, you know, as he, you know,

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lived, loved and lived, as he you know, Phil, like

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in a battle, he was a sublimely spirit without a

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mind, you know, like he was praising him as he

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lived and loved, as he, Phil and Phor, he was

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sublimely spirit without a spot, you know, that

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was like him, like Chile, he was praising his

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nobility, you know, and he was like, very

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influential, very famous poet and intellectual of

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his time. So now, I don't think we should take

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this for something funny, when he writes a poem

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like this. Okay, do you want to add anything?

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Yeah, but you're taking us to the poem, and all of

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the students, wow, you're lucky. You like it? You

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like it? I don't know. Like, you should have

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started reading it aloud. How? How should it? And

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like, look here. Some poems, some lines are, yeah.

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Didn't nobody read this poem aloud at home? Huh?

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Don't say, bring out your bells. Don't worry. Do

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you think it should be like this? How?

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Is it anger or let's say a song? Because there

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should be anger like, bring out your guns, like

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this? Bring out your guns. Late morning shows be

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spread and then Allah is there. That is silly.

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Very silly, you know, come on, give me a break.

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What are you saying? You know, you're calling all

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these church bells to ring, you know, and then

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you're telling me one is dead? Very silly. Very,

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you know, irrational. But I think he, you know, by

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counting the reasons, by justifying that, you

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know, he's becoming more, you know, like sensible.

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and then say, Allah was dead, infected with plague

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of deep disdain, worth as note worth rejected, and

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faith first scored off gain from so ungrateful

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fancy, from such a female frenzy, from them that

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use men thus, good Lord, deliver us. Wow. Do you

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think this is like the voice of the poet? Is it

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the same voice or a different voice?

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You know, you are the chorus, and you know, can we

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do it? But let's see, listen, because this is how

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it should be. I'm going to, you know, like, to

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start. Ring out your bells. The morning shall be

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spread, for love is dead. Oh, love is dead.

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Infected with plague of deep despair. Worth as not

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worth rejected. And faith first called of gain.

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Weep? Weep, neighbors, weep. Don't you hear it

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said, Allah is there? His death, the tax folly,

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pickaxe folly, his whining, To cheer his shame,

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his will fall seemingly hollow, Holy his soul

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executor blame.

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Let dirt

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be sung and trantles rightly read, For love is

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dead. So wrong his tomb's ordained, My mistress'

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marble heart, which Epitaph contains, her eyes

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were once his dart. From such a dream

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and a fantasy, from name that fused him thus, to a

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dart in her grasp. Alas, I lie. Rage has this

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error bred. Love is not dead. Love is not dead,

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but sleeps in her unmatched mind, where she his

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counsel keeps till due dessert she find.

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You're crazy. You believe me? Thank you very much.

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Good. So I think it sounds like a prayer, a

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church, somebody like, yeah, it's like a what?

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It's like a ceremony. It's like a ceremony, isn't

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it? Yes, Jihani, you wanted to say something?

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Yeah, I just noticed because we read it aloud that

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because the first two are the same chorus but then

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the last stands and he differs, he changes. So it

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parallels his change of mind because we just said

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that at the beginning he thought a certain way and

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then at the end he sort of changed his mind. So do

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you think that this change of mind I think you

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know it's a deviation from the star because it

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seems like here we have a kind of you know

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conflict because emotionally he's angry but

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whatever like he said oh I'm sorry alas I you know

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what made me commit such a mistake yeah so it is

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like rage what is rage anger you know so I'm sorry

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like it is rage and like I think we admire a man

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who commits, who admits he committed a folly under

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the pressure of some other passion. And then we

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admire because he says, I'm sorry. So we admire

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people who are not intransigent. You know what I

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mean? Not stubborn. Because some people, when they

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commit a mistake, they don't want to admit it. But

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this man admits, yes. Everyone when he like have

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an experience for the first time or he like under

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depression for the first time, he will like be too

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negative for the other side. Like what we call in

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Arabic, time will

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like change and make things a little painful for

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the others. I feel that he's like at first he's

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like under depression because of the experience

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itself. Yeah, by time like Yeah, but we don't have

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time, like he's telling us like, you know,

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quickly, but it's just a vibe. Yes. What do you

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want to say? Somebody's talking there? Yes. You

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like the poem? Yes. Why? Is it because we sang it?

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Like we sang it? No. Okay. About his, about his

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deeply feelings. Yeah, because, you know, you

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think he's sincere, he's noble, he's like, he

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succeeded.

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Yes.

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So you

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think he was like considering, you know, he wanted

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like, yeah, to to grab like to praise like no no

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no women are not like this the women are witty

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they you know look at our queen how she's witty

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she you know what i mean so this could be a kind

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of flattery you know and i think this would gain

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him a stronger position in the court But I think

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the culture of that time and here, again, this is

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a twist of courtly love. Because here, we don't

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have a lover who keeps castigating,

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offending, cursing the woman up to the end like

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the other poets. We have a poet who is more

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respectable, who admits his folly, his mistake.

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And I think this conflict between passion and

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feeling, man should be balanced. You see what I

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mean? The idea of balance, the idea of order was

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like a value in the Elizabethan culture. In the

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Elizabethan culture, one should be balanced. One

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should not leave other, you know, things dominate.

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So the idea of order, the idea of balance was

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there. So we do not respect, we do not appreciate

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people who are, you know, very like imbalanced.

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But let's go to the poem because it seems like

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this poem is very provocative. Ring out your

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bells, lit morning shows be spread. So the poet

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seems to be angry and sad. And this is a

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declaration. But whom is he, but when he say, ring

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out your bells, lit morning shows be spread, for

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love is dead. So he is like, ordering, he is

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appealing, you could say, to whom? Yeah, like,

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ring out your bells, let morning shows be spread

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to the church. So, like, the bells is a metonymy

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of the church, if you want to say, you know, ring

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out your bells, let morning shows be spread for

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love. It's there. As we said, this is, you know,

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an abrupt personification. It is unexpected. It

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is, it sounds silly. But this silliness is

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undercut by those lovely images where he say love

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is dead, infected with all, with plague of deep

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disdain. Worth as not worth rejected and faith

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first called off game. Like what does he say

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exactly? Are we missing any line? All love is

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dead. The assumption is not his personal love, but

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all love. Why is he generalizing the thing?

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Like to make people sympathize. Very good. To get

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the compassion of people. But you know, I think,

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you know, the word infected here, what is it

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infected? Yeah, infected. with a plague you know

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love was infected had good infection of what of

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plague of deep disdain so I think here disdain is

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very dangerous disdain is like what like you know

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what's with this day it's gone you know yeah like

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to despise to disparage somebody despise disparage

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disdain all these

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All love is dead, infected with a plague of this

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day. What is a plague by the way? It's a very

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dangerous, very contagious epidemic. It was there

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in 16th century and 17th century. But a plague is

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very fatal, very dangerous. And, you know, here,

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but what is the plague, in fact? What is the

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plague? Because there seems to be a metaphor here,

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you know? No, it's not love. What is like, what is

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the thing which has the effect of a plague? No,

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but here, like, say, all love is infected with the

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plague of deed this day. So what is like a plague?

487
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Love is disdain. Love is disdain. What is

488
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disdain? To think that you are superior to the

489
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others. To think that the others are inferior to

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you. This is disdain. So I think disdain in itself

491
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is enough reason to justify his claim that love is

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dead. And even like to justify his claim that all

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love is dead. Because if we are talking, you know,

494
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a reason which is a plague-like, you know, because

495
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here we're dealing like, you know, it is infected.

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And as you see here, infected, it has to do with

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00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,960
the idea of all, you know, all love is dead. So if

498
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we're talking about plague, you know, it means

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like good. Yes? And maybe he said all of this

500
00:36:07,010 --> 00:36:14,970
because he had a sad experience. He imagined all

501
00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:20,010
of this. Yeah, because he's

502
00:36:20,010 --> 00:36:23,070
paying too much, so he started to generalize. And

503
00:36:23,070 --> 00:36:26,390
this happens when we are under pressure, when we

504
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:32,350
have experience like this. But words as known were

505
00:36:32,350 --> 00:36:36,260
rejected. I think he started like to end this, to

506
00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:42,120
give us why he's trying to justify it. Okay, it

507
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,960
was scorn which killed it. And then he says, worth

508
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,460
has not worth rejected. We have a simile here.

509
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:56,240
What is the simile? What is worth? Worth is

510
00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:01,920
nobility. Nobility, worth is nobility. So worth,

511
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:07,300
you know, as not worth. Note means a zero, you

512
00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:10,760
know. Note like it has zero. You are noble to

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people, but they never consider this nobility.

514
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,040
They never, you know, they just give cold

515
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,440
shoulders. They don't care, you know. So you feel,

516
00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:23,580
I think, you know, you know, if you're worth, if

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00:37:23,580 --> 00:37:25,560
you're noble to people and this noble is not

518
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,440
appreciated, you feel, you know, mad, you feel

519
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,930
that the other is ungrateful. worth as not worth

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rejected and faith fair score doth gain. I like

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00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:46,150
this line very complicated very complicated you

522
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:50,310
know I know like some of you perhaps were

523
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:55,290
attracted by the alliteration here yeah and faith

524
00:37:55,290 --> 00:38:01,210
fair score doth gain but fair score you know is

525
00:38:01,210 --> 00:38:06,480
little bit Problematic is there a score which is

526
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:11,040
fair? You know, is it is there a score which is

527
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,920
fair Yeah, it seems like contradictingly fair how

528
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,840
come You know, it's like this is contradictory

529
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:28,580
it's like delicious torment Huh, it is oxymoron.

530
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,540
Thank you very much. This is what we call

531
00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:31,420
oxymoron. I

532
00:38:34,590 --> 00:38:38,790
So yeah, he wants to say it is fair score. So he

533
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:42,550
could be ironic. He could be sarcastic. He could

534
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:47,130
appreciate the score because without the score, he

535
00:38:47,130 --> 00:38:51,830
would have never discovered how false and untrue

536
00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:56,630
she was. But what I like in this poem is the

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00:38:56,630 --> 00:39:01,670
complexity of the syntax in the line. So if we are

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talking about faith, and fair score, like who's

539
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:12,120
gaining the other? How would you paraphrase this

540
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,580
line? Can you paraphrase this line? How would you

541
00:39:15,580 --> 00:39:16,220
paraphrase it?

542
00:39:20,340 --> 00:39:27,080
How would you paraphrase it? Fair and faith, fair

543
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,980
score does gain.

544
00:39:33,570 --> 00:39:36,430
Yes, yes, please.

545
00:39:39,810 --> 00:39:43,130
Excellent, yes, you gain faith, but you gain

546
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:46,730
score. So which is better? Which is stronger?

547
00:39:48,130 --> 00:39:54,350
Which is stronger? A scorn is stronger. It's like

548
00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:58,310
a battle in which you have fair scorn, which I

549
00:39:58,310 --> 00:40:02,850
think it is person location here, and faith are

550
00:40:02,850 --> 00:40:07,050
battling with each other, and then it is scorn the

551
00:40:07,050 --> 00:40:12,290
winner. This line is ambiguous. Another

552
00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:16,650
possibility is faith

553
00:40:18,690 --> 00:40:21,910
You are, as you said, you are faithful, and when

554
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:26,170
you are faithful, this faith gains, you know, in

555
00:40:26,170 --> 00:40:30,170
return, a score, you see? In either cases, score

556
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is dominant.

557
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And then this refrain, I don't know why the

558
00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:39,510
refrain, this is what we call refrain.

559
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:48,720
Refrain, it's like, it's a chorus, Somebody should

560
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:53,340
be repeating this, you know. And then we go like,

561
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we neighbors, we. It's not like a person that he

562
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,740
started like to call neighbors. Like this is what

563
00:40:58,740 --> 00:41:02,080
happens in funeral when the ordeal or the problem

564
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,660
is too much, you see. So it seems like this is

565
00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:08,820
very interesting poem and we have to reread it,

566
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:13,760
you know, again. with all the ideas, the

567
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,900
wonderful, the background we have about this. And

568
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:21,680
I think next time we should go deeper, analyzing

569
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,320
it, analyzing the figures of speech, the

570
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,220
aesthetics. It is very complicated, but it is very

571
00:41:27,220 --> 00:41:30,920
interesting. Thank you for being attentive, and

572
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,880
see you next time, okay? Good.