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Assalamualaikum and welcome back to English Poetry |
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at the Islamic University of Gaza. I hope that you |
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all and your loved ones are safe and sound after |
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yet another Israeli brutal attack on Gaza. Today, |
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we continue to work on romantic poetry. We go back |
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to Chile. We examined one of the most fascinating |
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poems of all times. That's Ozymandias. I'll go |
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back to Ozymandias. We'll do something else in |
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addition to examining the poem. And I'll start |
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with that. When we talk about poets, probably we |
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mentioned this early in the course. Why poets? Why |
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we need poets? What is it that poets do that |
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others do not do? Let me ask you this question |
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again. Do we really need poets in our societies, |
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in our lives? Are they significant? Can we do |
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without them? Can life be the same without poets? |
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What is it that poets do to make life different or |
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special or better or bad? Can you live Like, |
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honestly, can you live a whole month or a whole |
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year without reading a poem, listening to a poem, |
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listening to a song, reciting a song? What is it |
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that we find appealing? Why? Again, here, |
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basically, I'm talking about other than the beauty |
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of the language The ingenious ways they employ |
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literal devices and sounds and the way they word |
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their stuff, their originality and everything. I'm |
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talking about ideas and thoughts. and |
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contributions to civilization, to society. I think |
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what we need from poets is that they are having |
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control over words. So in their words, they have |
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emotions, and they evoke the emotions of other |
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people. So they can convey a strong message that |
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they want to the other people. And when the |
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people's feelings move, then it will turn out to |
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be action. So it is important for people to |
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improve their country and to improve themselves to |
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reap the fruit. So okay if you're talking about |
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the ability to convey emotions and feelings in |
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words and then the ability to turn these words |
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into action. Who does this? Like who does this |
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generally in life other than poets? Is it only |
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poets who convey, don't teachers sometimes do |
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this? Don't parents do this? What is it that is, |
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we feel special about poetry? And about poets? |
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Like a taxi driver could give you, could express |
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his advice. No offense to taxi drivers, I'm just |
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giving you an example. Yes. |
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Okay, so there is this special thing about deep |
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analysis, the profound, you know, digging deeper |
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and deeper rather than going for the superficial |
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mundane things. I believe that, first of all, as |
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Rizwan said, some people have so much emotions but |
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they can't find the words. So literature in |
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general, whether poetry or prose, gives you those |
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words. Another thing is Reading literature |
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sometimes helps us overcome our troubles, because |
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when we read literature, we feel that there are |
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people who think out of the same But again, |
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doesn't this apply to other mundane things? If |
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you, I don't know, if you are a parent, you have a |
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shopping list to do, you have little money, you |
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have too many things to buy and you read it. It |
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could be a life changing experience because the |
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things, is this the same? What's the difference |
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between like say a shopping list and a poem? Okay. |
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I think okay imagine a father again you know |
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struggling you know the economical situation |
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around the world and how people are struggling to |
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afford to put food on the table and somebody |
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realizes that he has to buy so many things at the |
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same time he has or she has very little money |
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that's going to it's going to be like a poem |
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So what's the difference? Why do we have poets? |
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What is the main job of a poet? I think that |
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poetry makes you feel responsible upon something |
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you didn't feel responsible about, like defending |
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the land or doing something good or maybe make a |
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charity. sometimes you see a poor person and you |
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don't think to give him money or her. So poetry |
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makes you to think about this. But when I'm |
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talking about a father who has responsibility over |
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his family, it's normal to feel responsible. So |
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you don't need poetry to feel responsible about |
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that. So poetry doesn't change our relationships |
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between, like if you have a, don't you like your |
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mom more when you read one particular poem, you |
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listen to one particular song? But does this love |
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increase, decrease? Increases. Does poetry |
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contribute to increasing, decreasing things? This |
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question is in my heart. Please. Please, yes. I |
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think poets have the ability to say stuff that we |
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feel but can't say. So yes, when you read a poem |
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about mothers in general, I can relate to the |
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feelings, but I myself, it never occurred to me to |
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say them this way. When I read them in a poem, if |
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somebody is speaking your mind, you know? And like |
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another thing, you said about like what's the |
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difference between like a father who lectures you |
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and like a poet who is also in a way another |
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lecturer in a poem. Well, it's different because |
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like I think we choose to listen to the poem and |
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like even if it was all dictation, full of stuff |
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that… Preaching, yeah. Yeah, teaching, we still |
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wouldn't like feel it this way because like we |
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choose to listen to it and we like think of it |
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more than when someone just comes to us directly |
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So you're saying that here sometimes when |
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something is dictated to us, you know, when we're |
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given orders, commands, we tend to, you know, to |
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be reluctant to do, to follow. But if something is |
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written in such a way, in such an attractive, |
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poetic way that speaks our minds, but at the same |
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time does not make us feel that we're just blindly |
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following somebody. It's this thing that answers |
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some call from inside that makes you feel that |
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it's special because you find poetry different. |
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Yes, I think even their arguments aren't |
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convincing enough that they're degrading in a way |
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to appeal to people. Okay, okay. But we do have |
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other people who are as convincing as poets. Don't |
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we? So, what is the main job of poets? If you are |
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a poet, what would you be doing and why? Poets are |
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responsible to start things and they call people's |
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attention to something or they make people pay |
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attention to something that they are part of. For |
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example, when I read about such as the incitement |
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party or the resistance, |
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things, to push us to reconsider things, even the |
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very mundane, the things that we see every day, |
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but we don't pay attention to. And now the poets |
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present these things in a way that attracts our |
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attention, that makes us pause, think, and |
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reconsider our position, our stances. And you |
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here, about how poets usually initiate. They start |
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things. And this is something that mirrors Freud's |
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famous statement, the poets were there before me. |
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looking for examples to clarify, to illustrate his |
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ideas about psychoanalysis and everything, he |
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found himself almost always quoting literary |
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works, works of fiction drama, poetry. And he came |
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to the conclusion that poets were there before me, |
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every, all my ideas. have been in a way or another |
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expressed, mentioned, discussed, elaborated on by |
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poets. And that's why he says, poets were there |
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before me. Actually, after this course, I feel |
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like writing poetry is in the sake of writing |
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poetry. This is the thing that it's up to you what |
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you want to take from this poem. Actually, when we |
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take some poems we like, we have different symbols |
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from different perspectives. So I think this is |
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the job of the poem. |
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It's up to the reader what he wants to take from |
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the speech. It depends. Some people believe that. |
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I'm writing just for the sake of writing. It's |
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like I want, there's something inside, I want to |
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get it out there. I don't care what influence it's |
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going to have on me or on other people. What I |
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people who write poetry. That's why I try to |
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assign you to write poetry. Okay, you feel the |
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need to write because I want you to, but by time I |
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movement called art for art's sake Why are you |
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doing this? Why are you painting? Why are you |
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writing this? I don't care. I just write I think |
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care what influence or impact. But then there will |
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of, like you said here, of change, of revolution, |
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of resistance, of probably teaching, teaching and |
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delighting. More, please. |
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foreign language and you relate. you find it |
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appealing and sometimes you don't understand |
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everything about like the words and you know but |
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our feelings That's also true. And that's |
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something that makes poetry special. You could |
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way, you know, Ahmed Shawqi, Barazas Ta'ala Abu |
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song that lasts for three minutes. And this is so |
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powerful that we can just learn about a whole |
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nation through a poem. That's true. That's true. |
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understand ourselves without So sometimes you'd be |
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reading about a character and you'd say wow that |
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character is horrible and then all of a sudden it |
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strikes you that I do this. So it makes us realize |
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how horrible people are. Like is this again |
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connected to that idea Nadia raised here, the fact |
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don't, do, don't. You feel exposed, true. But a |
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poet has the ability, a poem has the ability to |
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capture your essence and to make you realize that, |
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think poets are trustworthy? they are they're not |
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okay they're not they are are they or are they not |
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yes or no yes no oh nice it's okay it's up to you |
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so yes or no yes or no yes or no yes or no yes or |
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no yes or no yes or no yes or no so most of you |
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say no okay okay okay okay Now, why? Why? Please. |
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still trust him? What in this person would you be |
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trusting? Please. |
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could be a she. So would you trust him more in |
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this case if this is, honestly, if you're reading |
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a poem for a female poet, would you take it more |
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seriously? Would you, would it? Please? |
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like, I trust my friend, right? |
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about? Briefly, yes please. In brief. So is |
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it good or bad? It's bad, especially for the |
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teenagers or the beginners in learning. They will |
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believe what is shown in the poem, yet the poets |
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are giving the answer that is more than they said. |
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some people here are saying, if you tell me |
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everything, preach me everything, I'm not going to |
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like it. If you show me, if you do things by |
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showing me, by making me think, look for the |
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truth, look for the idea, it would make you part |
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of the poem. Remember? So yeah, it's true. I like |
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this again expression. The unsaid is usually more |
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than the said. Please. I think maybe some poets |
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can exaggerate the situation or their feelings. Is |
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that good or bad? Don't we all do that all the |
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time? Don't we exaggerate when we hate somebody, |
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when we like somebody, when you... We should be, |
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but we're not. Most often we're not. Yes, please. |
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I think poets sometimes try to immortalize things |
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and erase other things. I remember once you told |
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us that before Zionism came to Palestine, they |
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were preparing in prose and poetry. So the poets |
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can... portray for the people what he wants. And |
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Ozymandias is a great example. The reader of this |
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poem, for the first time, he will be ready to |
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understand, and later he will get the information |
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about bad kings. Okay, so again, you're |
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generalizing here. If one poet is using poetry to |
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deceive and trick, does that mean we need to |
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distrust all poets? |
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That's very good. You need to be very careful. You |
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need to be very cautious about what poets do with |
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their poetry. True. |
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In terms of ideas or in terms of language? In |
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terms of how idealized they are |
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Okay, so does this mean we tend to like realistic |
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poetry more, to find ourselves, or at least trust, |
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do we trust more realistic poets more? |
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Okay, why wouldn't you trust, like generally |
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speaking, why wouldn't you trust a poet? I think |
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not all poets must be taken for granted because |
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sometimes they only write poetry for the sake of |
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getting some support in a way or another, whether |
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financial support or social. Be careful many poets |
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don't make much money these days Only if you if |
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you are successful novel writer novelist you could |
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do that, but short story writers Poets they don't |
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make much money Okay |
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Okay, |
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so sometimes poets not all poets are good people |
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they do bad stuff they could do would you like a |
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poetry written by somebody who you don't like if |
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the man the man or the woman is bad like but they |
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write good poetry so to speak would you still read |
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their poetry okay |
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please |
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The man himself. So you're trying to detach. |
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There's something that this of the author, there's |
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this theory that once poets, once authors, writers |
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write stuff, it belongs to us, to the readers. And |
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it also means that the writing is the sum of |
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everything around them. It's not only them, |
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because you will always be quoting inspired by |
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other writers and other authors. These are very |
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excellent ideas you have. Think about them and see |
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how you could develop these ideas now. |
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Pottery has been part and parcel of our life, of |
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our heritage. It's probably the most significant |
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thing we had from the Arabs. In addition, you |
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know, like ancient Arabs were all like 1,000, 2 |
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,000 years ago in addition to later on to Islam |
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and the Quran and the Sunnah, right? And the only |
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miracle in Islam for Prophet Muhammad was the |
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Quran, because Arabs were excellent poets with |
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rhetoric, with language, with words. They were the |
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best of the best, how they used language and how |
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they expressed themselves. Now, in the Quran, |
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there's a whole surah, a whole chapter named after |
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the poets as shu'ara. And again, indicating how |
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significant these people are. They're not |
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mentioned like we expect them to be mentioned |
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because the verse says, Now this |
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is significant, meaning, translate the gist that |
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poets are only followed by people who don't follow |
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the truth because they roam, literal translation, |
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they roam in every valley. They fluctuate, they |
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357 |
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change. One time they're here and the other day |
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358 |
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they're doing the opposite. Sometime they would be |
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359 |
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praising this man and then next week, next month |
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360 |
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they would be attacking him or criticizing him. |
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361 |
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And this is significant because during the time of |
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Prophet Muhammad there was Hassan Ibn Thabit, the |
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famous poet, Prophet Muhammad kind of like brought |
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him very close to him. He made him his own |
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365 |
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personal poet. And he even ordered him to write, |
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366 |
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gave him the order to write poetry against the |
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people attacking, hating the Prophet Muhammad |
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368 |
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peace be upon him at that time. And he even, you |
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369 |
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know, he made him sit on a pulpit, the minbar, you |
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know, And nobody else, nobody else of the |
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371 |
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Prophet's companions had this place because he was |
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a poet. And now the interesting thing is that |
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Hassan was not a warrior. He was not a fighter. We |
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talk about a time when fighting was probably one |
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of the most significant things, right? But writing |
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376 |
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poetry perhaps was even more significant. So for |
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this, because poets are significant, Prophet |
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378 |
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Muhammad brought this man, Hassan Ibn Thabit, |
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379 |
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closer to him, probably closer than any of the |
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380 |
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other companions. |
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381 |
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And he gave him, he always asked him to write |
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poetry, to attack, to criticize the people of |
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383 |
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Quraysh. And for this, this is the verse. However, |
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384 |
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there is always an exception, so there is no |
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385 |
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general blanket condemnation of poets. And look at |
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386 |
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what sort of poets that are praised here, illa |
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387 |
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alladhina aman wa amali, except, so all poets are |
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388 |
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bad, except those who believe and do. And some of |
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389 |
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you mentioned this in passing, that poets say |
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390 |
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stuff, but they don't do it. They are people of |
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391 |
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words rather than people of action. So I think |
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392 |
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this is one important thing that we look for in |
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393 |
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poets. We want poets who are probably realistic, |
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like you said, connected to life, who push us to |
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do new things, to break new ground, who speak our |
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396 |
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minds, who lead by example, but also poets who |
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397 |
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themselves do, they practice what they preach. |
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398 |
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They practice what they preach. Look at this, how |
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399 |
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poetry can be an act of resistance. |
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400 |
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I like this translation. It's like literal. Don't |
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401 |
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you see that in every valley there? I think in |
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402 |
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Arabic, in the Quran, this is one of the most |
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403 |
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beautiful images. |
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404 |
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When somebody goes into |
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405 |
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a place aimlessly, just walks around wandering |
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406 |
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aimlessly. This is what means like they could be |
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407 |
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going there. They just can be writing poetry, like |
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408 |
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you said, for no reason or for no purpose. Okay, |
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409 |
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so despite the fact that Hassan Ibn Thabit did not |
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410 |
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fight well, he wasn't a warrior, he was made |
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411 |
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special by Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. He |
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412 |
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even prayed saying that the angel Gabriel will |
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41 |
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445 |
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clapped and said, bala, bala, bala, I like this. |
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446 |
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Now, many of us could say that this is a mistake. |
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447 |
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Like Jareer committed a mistake, and this is true. |
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448 |
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It could be that he committed a mistake, but there |
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449 |
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is another interpretation. It could be deliberate. |
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450 |
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This man is a genius. He's a poet. In the sense |
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451 |
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that he could have done this in order to change |
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452 |
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things. I like poetry that subverts the authority |
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453 |
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of people, like people in authority, patriarchy |
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454 |
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and everything. Poetry that attacks these symbols |
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455 |
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of power, of authority, is the poetry that appeals |
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456 |
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to me most. And I read this here. I think Jarir, |
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457 |
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00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,440 |
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by doing this, is trying to do two things. Number |
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458 |
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one, to shake the image of the caliph. But also |
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459 |
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number two, to tell other poets and people that |
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460 |
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00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:15,710 |
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there are many ways to start a poem. You don't |
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461 |
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00:30:15,710 --> 00:30:21,690 |
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have to start standing on the ruins and being all |
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462 |
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sweet and everything. A poem can begin like this |
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463 |
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in a tough and rough way. And talking about |
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464 |
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openings, we always go to Abu Nawaz, one of my |
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465 |
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00:30:31,770 --> 00:30:35,190 |
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favorite poets. Abu Nawaz wasn't an Arab, he was a |
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466 |
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Persian. And sadly for this, some critics didn't |
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467 |
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00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:43,660 |
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like him just for the fact that he was Persian. He |
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468 |
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00:30:43,660 --> 00:30:47,520 |
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was alcoholic and again people hated him for that. |
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469 |
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00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,800 |
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But remember we don't talk about the person |
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470 |
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00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,760 |
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himself here, we talk about the poet, the poetry. |
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471 |
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00:30:53,770 --> 00:30:57,150 |
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So this man, again, how he was changing, if not |
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472 |
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00:30:57,150 --> 00:31:01,070 |
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ideas and society and customs, changing the way |
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473 |
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00:31:01,070 --> 00:31:04,970 |
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poets would be writing. He hated very much what |
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474 |
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for hundreds and hundreds of years Arab poets |
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475 |
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00:31:08,030 --> 00:31:11,090 |
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would open the poems against standing on the ruins |
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476 |
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00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:17,330 |
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and remains of the beloved tribe or something. And |
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477 |
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00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:19,870 |
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I think that must have been boring for some |
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478 |
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00:31:19,870 --> 00:31:24,470 |
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people, for many people. Imagine you reading or |
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479 |
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00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:27,010 |
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listening to a poem, like a hundred poems and a |
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480 |
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00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:31,730 |
|
thousand poems, all opening, standing over the |
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481 |
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ruins of something. So change was significant. |
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482 |
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00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:37,470 |
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Again, poets would always start with this. So he |
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483 |
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00:31:37,470 --> 00:31:40,470 |
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said, قُلّي مَن مَرَّ عَلَى رَسْمٍ دَرَسْ وَاقِفًا |
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484 |
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00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:44,730 |
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till those people who stand over the ruins of |
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485 |
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00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:49,630 |
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their... Why don't you sit down? Have a seat. Sit |
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486 |
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00:31:49,630 --> 00:31:55,190 |
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down. رجليك تعبوك تريح مادره لو كان جلس, and I |
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487 |
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00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:58,770 |
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showed you some of the memes, yeah, I showed you |
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488 |
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00:31:58,770 --> 00:32:02,950 |
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again this is another poem, another line, مادره لو |
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489 |
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00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:05,990 |
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كان جلس, this is that, this is from Abu Nawaz, all of |
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490 |
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00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:10,430 |
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it فما الوقوف على الأطلال من شأنه, I am not a |
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491 |
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00:32:10,430 --> 00:32:13,250 |
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person who would stand over, I don't do this, I |
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492 |
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00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:16,590 |
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don't stand over ruins, it's not something I do, I |
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493 |
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00:32:16,590 --> 00:32:21,660 |
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like doing, And لتلك أبكي و لا أبكي لمنزلتي, I don't |
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494 |
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00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:25,380 |
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cry or weep over these things كانت تحل بها هند و |
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495 |
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00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:28,420 |
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أسموة, I weep for something that happened, for an |
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496 |
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00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:33,090 |
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experience, I don't weep over. And this, listen, This |
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497 |
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00:32:33,090 --> 00:32:35,870 |
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could be because again Abu Nawaz wanted to change |
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498 |
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00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:38,810 |
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the way, but I don't know. Is it because also he |
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499 |
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00:32:38,810 --> 00:32:43,470 |
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doesn't have roots in wherever he was in Iraq or |
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500 |
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00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:46,890 |
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here and there? It's like place doesn't mean much |
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501 |
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00:32:46,890 --> 00:32:49,430 |
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to him because this is not where he is from |
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502 |
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00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:51,030 |
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originally. He was born somewhere else. I don't |
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503 |
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00:32:51,030 --> 00:32:54,330 |
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know. It could be both. And I find this very |
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504 |
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00:32:54,330 --> 00:33:00,270 |
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striking. This is really extreme. |
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505 |
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00:33:04,770 --> 00:33:07,310 |
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That's really extreme. This is supplication. May |
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506 |
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00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:12,130 |
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God not have mercy on any eye that cries over the |
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507 |
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00:33:12,130 --> 00:33:16,410 |
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ruins or the remains. That's very extreme. I did |
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508 |
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00:33:16,410 --> 00:33:19,930 |
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my memes myself. I try sometimes. I love this. I |
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509 |
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00:33:19,930 --> 00:33:22,450 |
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never understood this until somebody memed this |
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510 |
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00:33:22,450 --> 00:33:25,660 |
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woman. So this woman was tasting something. You |
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511 |
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00:33:25,660 --> 00:33:27,500 |
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know sometimes you eat something that you hate |
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512 |
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00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:30,380 |
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very much, and just before you spit it out, you |
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513 |
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00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:33,280 |
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think, wait a minute, this is really different. |
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514 |
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00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,060 |
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You know, I have tasted this, I'm very |
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515 |
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00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:40,460 |
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adventurous, wherever I travel, I like to try the |
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516 |
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00:33:40,460 --> 00:33:42,180 |
|
food. So sometimes it's like, oh my God, I want to |
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517 |
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00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:45,100 |
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spit it out. But then you just give it one moment, |
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518 |
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00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:47,540 |
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and it's like, wow, this is different, special. |
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519 |
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00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:52,000 |
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So, قُلّي مَن مَرَ عَلَى رَسْمٍ دَرَسْ وَاقِفًا، |
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520 |
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00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,900 |
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مَا دَرَ لَوْ جَلَسْ, O'Dis Famous, like how most |
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521 |
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00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:02,100 |
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Arab poets would be قفة نبكي من ذكرى حبيبى ومنزلي |
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522 |
|
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:06,740 |
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بسقط اللوى بين دخولى فحوملى etc But then مادرة لو |
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523 |
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00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:11,990 |
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كان جلس, sit down, you don't have to stand, Now |
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524 |
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00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:14,250 |
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look at Al Mutanabbi. We know Al Mutanabbi is |
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525 |
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00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:17,630 |
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perhaps, some argue that he's the greatest poet of |
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|
526 |
|
00:34:17,630 --> 00:34:21,090 |
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all times, even surpassing Shakespeare and Dante |
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527 |
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00:34:21,090 --> 00:34:23,690 |
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and those great poets. It's still an opinion that |
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528 |
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00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:27,210 |
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some people have. He's no doubt the greatest Arab |
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529 |
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00:34:27,210 --> 00:34:29,270 |
|
poet of all time. |
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530 |
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00:34:31,420 --> 00:34:34,620 |
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Was a special, was a poet, I'm not sure if you |
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|
531 |
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00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:37,320 |
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read any, if you know, like, you will be amazed |
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532 |
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00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,780 |
|
how many of the wisdoms you know were said by Al |
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533 |
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00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:45,140 |
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-Mutanabbi. Masayabu qawmin anda qawmin fawa'id. |
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534 |
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00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,800 |
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It's something from Al-Mutanabbi. One man's poison |
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535 |
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00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,020 |
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is another man's meat. Ma li jurhin bimayitin |
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536 |
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00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:55,480 |
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ilam. I did one dozen tears. You know, most of the |
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537 |
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00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,960 |
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idioms, the proverbs, the expressions we know, I |
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538 |
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00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,220 |
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don't say most, like some of them come originally |
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539 |
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00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:05,280 |
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from Al-Mutanabi. Sha'ar Al-Hikma, I think he was |
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540 |
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00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,580 |
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described, the poet of wisdom, anyway. I don't |
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541 |
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00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:10,860 |
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care. |
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542 |
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00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,080 |
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The thing is that you need to read Al-Mutanabi, |
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543 |
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00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:21,560 |
|
you have to, really. When he, he was, this man was |
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544 |
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00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,840 |
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looking to be, you know, appointed, you know, some |
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545 |
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00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,740 |
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Emir here or there. And he was, you know, keeping |
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546 |
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00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:31,000 |
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with Seif Eddaoula, and every time, like, Seif |
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547 |
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00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,060 |
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Eddaoula would be rejecting him, like, okay, stay |
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548 |
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00:35:33,060 --> 00:35:36,000 |
|
around, write poetry for me, and that's it. So he |
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549 |
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00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,900 |
|
left him, and he went to Egypt, Kafour El Ekhshidi. |
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550 |
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00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:41,040 |
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Again, hoping that Kafour El Ekhshidi would be |
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551 |
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00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,320 |
|
giving him what? You know, some place to rule. And |
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552 |
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00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,560 |
|
when he went to Egypt, he was heading to Egypt, he |
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553 |
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00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,560 |
|
wrote one of the most beautiful poems of all time. |
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554 |
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00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,340 |
|
Again, in anticipating, preparing for the meeting |
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555 |
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00:35:54,340 --> 00:35:58,610 |
|
with Kafour El Ekhshidi. He stayed there in vain. |
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556 |
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00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:02,490 |
|
Kafuri Khashidi was not also willing to give him |
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557 |
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00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:05,910 |
|
some place to rule or something. And he left Egypt |
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558 |
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00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:08,630 |
|
heading back to Syria, and he wrote again one of |
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559 |
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00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:11,850 |
|
the most fascinating poems of all time. So it's |
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560 |
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00:36:11,850 --> 00:36:15,290 |
|
the same thing. You know, I'm praising this man |
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561 |
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00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:16,850 |
|
and attacking him. It's not just attacking him. |
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562 |
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00:36:17,230 --> 00:36:20,630 |
|
The famous poem says, I will return at any cost. I |
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563 |
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00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:23,230 |
|
will return to what has been done to you to renew |
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564 |
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00:36:23,230 --> 00:36:25,210 |
|
it. As for his beloved ones in the desert without |
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565 |
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00:36:25,210 --> 00:36:36,060 |
|
them, He says one |
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566 |
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00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:40,270 |
|
of those lines that, Very memorable. He talks about |
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567 |
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00:36:40,270 --> 00:36:41,510 |
|
the people there in Egypt. |
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568 |
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00:36:45,090 --> 00:36:52,510 |
|
Those people stink that even when the angel of |
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569 |
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00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:55,170 |
|
death takes their souls, it brings, you know, a |
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570 |
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00:36:55,170 --> 00:36:57,170 |
|
stick, so it doesn't touch them. It just takes |
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571 |
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00:36:57,170 --> 00:37:00,970 |
|
their souls with with a stick, that's extreme. So |
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572 |
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00:37:00,970 --> 00:37:03,630 |
|
when he was running away from Egypt, leaving Egypt |
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573 |
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00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:08,490 |
|
behind, some people whose mother, Al-Mutanabbi, |
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574 |
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00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:13,470 |
|
satirized, were coming after him, and he wanted to |
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575 |
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00:37:13,470 --> 00:37:17,740 |
|
run away, until one of his followers, One of his |
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576 |
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00:37:17,740 --> 00:37:26,700 |
|
servants said, Sir, wasn't it you who said, Didn't |
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577 |
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00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:30,800 |
|
you say that, I don't know, the horse, the steed, |
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578 |
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00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,520 |
|
the knight, the desert know me, the sword, the |
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579 |
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00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,380 |
|
spear, the paper and pen as well? Like, didn't you |
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580 |
|
00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:43,020 |
|
say this? Didn't you praise yourself as the |
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581 |
|
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:44,100 |
|
greatest of fighters? |
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582 |
|
00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:55,860 |
|
But he wasn't a fighter. He was a fighter in his |
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583 |
|
00:37:55,860 --> 00:37:58,280 |
|
own words. But because he wanted to keep his word, |
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584 |
|
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,520 |
|
he wanted to tell people that poets are not liars, |
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585 |
|
00:38:00,620 --> 00:38:03,980 |
|
that poets are to be trusted. He stood and chose |
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586 |
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00:38:03,980 --> 00:38:06,720 |
|
to fight rather than run away. And he knew he's |
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587 |
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00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:09,520 |
|
going to be killed. And that's why he said to the |
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588 |
|
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,380 |
|
man, You killed me. You reminded me of my own |
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589 |
|
00:38:14,380 --> 00:38:17,220 |
|
poetry. You made me stop and fight. I'm not a |
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590 |
|
00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:19,460 |
|
fighter. But because I said something, I have to |
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591 |
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00:38:19,460 --> 00:38:23,590 |
|
keep my word. That's very beautiful. If you don't |
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592 |
|
00:38:23,590 --> 00:38:25,610 |
|
like this about the Mutanabbi, I don't know what |
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593 |
|
00:38:25,610 --> 00:38:29,470 |
|
else you're going to like about him. I don't know. |
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594 |
|
00:38:29,590 --> 00:38:35,450 |
|
Poets say stuff. Now, we move to Mahmoud Samil |
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595 |
|
00:38:35,450 --> 00:38:40,390 |
|
Baroudi, one of the poets of like, I don't know |
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596 |
|
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:43,310 |
|
when he lived exactly, but like 150 years ago or |
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597 |
|
00:38:43,310 --> 00:38:47,620 |
|
so. Arab poetry was in really steep decline until |
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598 |
|
00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:52,940 |
|
Mahmoud Samuel Baroudi came with the Renaissance |
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599 |
|
00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:56,340 |
|
or whatever, the modern Renaissance movement of |
|
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|
600 |
|
00:38:56,340 --> 00:38:59,620 |
|
Arabic poetry, the classical Arabic poetry. This |
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601 |
|
00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:01,980 |
|
man was a fighter, and he was also a poet. That's |
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602 |
|
00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:04,900 |
|
why he was described as the lord of the sword and |
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603 |
|
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:08,840 |
|
the pen. Rabb al-saif wal-qalam. Again, you see |
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604 |
|
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,620 |
|
what I'm doing here. It's trying to connect how |
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605 |
|
00:39:10,620 --> 00:39:17,600 |
|
words and deeds are usually there with poets. And |
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|
606 |
|
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,040 |
|
it's probably these poets that we like more, |
|
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|
607 |
|
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,820 |
|
because they practice what they preach rather than |
|
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608 |
|
00:39:22,820 --> 00:39:27,520 |
|
just... And we go to another example from |
|
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|
609 |
|
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,560 |
|
Palestinian culture and poetry, Abd al-Rahim |
|
|
|
610 |
|
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,320 |
|
Mahmoud. Do you know Abd al-Rahim Mahmoud? Again, |
|
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|
611 |
|
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,320 |
|
he was a great fighter. He was a Palestinian |
|
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612 |
|
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:40,250 |
|
feday, commando, and he was also a great poet. In |
|
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613 |
|
00:39:40,250 --> 00:39:44,090 |
|
his poem, famous poem, سأحمل روحي على راحتي, We all |
|
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|
614 |
|
00:39:44,090 --> 00:39:48,530 |
|
know this by heart, و ألقي بها في مهاورة فإما حياته |
|
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|
615 |
|
00:39:48,530 --> 00:39:52,590 |
|
تسر الصديق و إما ماته يغيظ العدى, I'll carry my |
|
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616 |
|
00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:56,350 |
|
soul on the palm of my hand and throw it to the |
|
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617 |
|
00:39:56,350 --> 00:40:00,770 |
|
abyss of death, It's either a life that pleases a |
|
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|
618 |
|
00:40:00,770 --> 00:40:04,830 |
|
friend, or friends, or death that teases and spites |
|
|
|
619 |
|
00:40:04,830 --> 00:40:08,830 |
|
the enemy, or something, Now what makes this special |
|
|
|
620 |
|
00:40:08,830 --> 00:40:12,050 |
|
is that Mahmoud Darwish died defending his land, |
|
|
|
621 |
|
00:40:12,490 --> 00:40:16,430 |
|
died fighting the Zionist occupation of Palestine. |
|
|
|
622 |
|
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:19,830 |
|
He died a fighter. He said something. He preached |
|
|
|
623 |
|
00:40:19,830 --> 00:40:23,890 |
|
us something. Probably these words come to life. |
|
|
|
624 |
|
00:40:24,030 --> 00:40:27,050 |
|
He comes to life every time we read this. He |
|
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|
625 |
|
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:30,010 |
|
showed us what to do, what to say, and how to do |
|
|
|
626 |
|
00:40:30,010 --> 00:40:33,240 |
|
it. And I'm not sure what other Palestinian poets |
|
|
|
627 |
|
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:35,480 |
|
you like, but for many Mahmoud Darwish usually |
|
|
|
628 |
|
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:41,500 |
|
comes on |
|
|
|
667 |
|
00:43:01,030 --> 00:43:04,070 |
|
say the very opposite of something. So the fact |
|
|
|
668 |
|
00:43:04,070 --> 00:43:07,490 |
|
that he was there early in the days calling for |
|
|
|
669 |
|
00:43:07,490 --> 00:43:12,530 |
|
people to come out, to rise, makes him also a |
|
|
|
670 |
|
00:43:12,530 --> 00:43:18,920 |
|
special poet. Now, Even if you don't do, if you |
|
|
|
671 |
|
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,400 |
|
don't practice what you preach, sometimes, again, |
|
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|
672 |
|
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,700 |
|
your words are enough. You don't have to be a |
|
|
|
673 |
|
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:27,740 |
|
poet. Remember we said something about children, |
|
|
|
674 |
|
00:43:28,180 --> 00:43:30,720 |
|
that words were saying that child is the father of |
|
|
|
675 |
|
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:33,080 |
|
man and something like this. Children don't have |
|
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|
676 |
|
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,020 |
|
to do anything to influence us, to change us, |
|
|
|
677 |
|
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,000 |
|
right? They just have to be there with their crazy |
|
|
|
678 |
|
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,400 |
|
stuff. |
|
|
|
679 |
|
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,020 |
|
These are two poets, Palestinian poets. They're |
|
|
|
680 |
|
00:43:47,020 --> 00:43:49,280 |
|
not fighters. They didn't fight. They didn't carry |
|
|
|
681 |
|
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,660 |
|
guns or stones or whatever. They just wrote |
|
|
|
682 |
|
00:43:52,660 --> 00:43:56,920 |
|
poetry. And still for that, the Israeli occupation |
|
|
|
683 |
|
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,500 |
|
looked at them in the way Israeli occupation looks |
|
|
|
684 |
|
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:05,440 |
|
at Palestinians. Moshi Dayan is reported to have |
|
|
|
685 |
|
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,760 |
|
said about Fadwa Tokan, he's a war criminal, he |
|
|
|
686 |
|
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,200 |
|
likened her reading one of her poems to facing 20 |
|
|
|
687 |
|
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,200 |
|
enemy commanders, fighters. So one poem by Fadwa |
|
|
|
688 |
|
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,940 |
|
Tokan was viewed by this Israeli war criminal as |
|
|
|
689 |
|
00:44:19,940 --> 00:44:25,640 |
|
20 fighters. So words, so is it again, I find it |
|
|
|
690 |
|
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,740 |
|
difficult sometimes to separate words from deeds, |
|
|
|
691 |
|
00:44:27,820 --> 00:44:32,230 |
|
what you do, because what you say can easily |
|
|
|
692 |
|
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:35,510 |
|
influence and incite others. You use the term |
|
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|
693 |
|
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:38,990 |
|
incite and prompt others to resist. The same thing |
|
|
|
694 |
|
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:42,610 |
|
happened to Darien Tatour like just three, four |
|
|
|
695 |
|
00:44:42,610 --> 00:44:45,130 |
|
years ago. Darien Tatour is a Palestinian poet who |
|
|
|
696 |
|
00:44:45,130 --> 00:44:49,450 |
|
was sent to prison by Israel for writing poetry. |
|
|
|
697 |
|
00:44:49,950 --> 00:44:54,490 |
|
Again, under the fake accusation of incitement. |
|
|
|
698 |
|
00:44:55,210 --> 00:44:58,450 |
|
And she spent a lot of time in prison, and she |
|
|
|
699 |
|
00:44:58,450 --> 00:45:03,070 |
|
remained for a long time under house arrest. If |
|
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|
700 |
|
00:45:03,070 --> 00:45:05,970 |
|
this doesn't show us how significant poetry is, I |
|
|
|
701 |
|
00:45:05,970 --> 00:45:08,390 |
|
don't know what does. |
|
|
|
702 |
|
00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:13,250 |
|
Now going back to our friends here, Wordsworth and |
|
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|
703 |
|
00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:17,900 |
|
Shelley. Many of you like Shelley, listen you could |
|
|
|
704 |
|
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:21,240 |
|
like something in the poet and not like something |
|
|
|
705 |
|
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:23,540 |
|
else. Again I don't talk about the poet as the |
|
|
|
706 |
|
00:45:23,540 --> 00:45:25,640 |
|
man, I talk about what they say, his poetry. You |
|
|
|
707 |
|
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,020 |
|
could like this poem but not that poem and that's |
|
|
|
708 |
|
00:45:28,020 --> 00:45:33,250 |
|
okay. Now Wordsworth is accused by many people as |
|
|
|
709 |
|
00:45:33,250 --> 00:45:36,950 |
|
the poet, an escapist poet. Some people would make |
|
|
|
710 |
|
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:39,250 |
|
fun of him and accuse him of being a tree hugger, |
|
|
|
711 |
|
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:41,930 |
|
you know, he would just be leaving the sins and |
|
|
|
712 |
|
00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:44,590 |
|
the corruptions of the city and you know all the |
|
|
|
713 |
|
00:45:44,590 --> 00:45:48,830 |
|
social and political decay behind and just close |
|
|
|
714 |
|
00:45:48,830 --> 00:45:51,990 |
|
your eyes. Imagine in the past when you were a |
|
|
|
715 |
|
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:55,610 |
|
child and life was good. Life was innocent. Life |
|
|
|
716 |
|
00:45:55,610 --> 00:45:58,810 |
|
was beautiful. Or leave everything behind and go |
|
|
|
717 |
|
00:45:58,810 --> 00:46:02,830 |
|
to nature, to the bosom of nature and just do it. |
|
|
|
718 |
|
00:46:04,510 --> 00:46:06,990 |
|
I find this unfair sometimes. |
|
|
|
719 |
|
00:46:10,350 --> 00:46:12,390 |
|
Tree-hugger is too much, I shouldn't be using |
|
|
|
720 |
|
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:15,690 |
|
this, but I could say that he's an escapist. Some |
|
|
|
721 |
|
00:46:15,690 --> 00:46:18,630 |
|
radicals might even accuse him of being complicit, |
|
|
|
722 |
|
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:21,030 |
|
because if you're silent, you know the sentence, |
|
|
|
723 |
|
00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:24,050 |
|
the statement, if you're silent in times of |
|
|
|
724 |
|
00:46:24,050 --> 00:46:28,040 |
|
injustice, you're complicit. Especially if you're |
|
|
|
725 |
|
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,840 |
|
special, if you're a poet, you should be speaking |
|
|
|
726 |
|
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:35,160 |
|
out loud, loud and clear against injustices, like |
|
|
|
727 |
|
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,180 |
|
we've seen with William Blake. But again, that's |
|
|
|
728 |
|
00:46:37,180 --> 00:46:41,400 |
|
the difference. William Blake was a Londoner. Now, |
|
|
|
729 |
|
00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:44,580 |
|
for many people, the fact that William Wordsworth |
|
|
|
730 |
|
00:46:44,580 --> 00:46:48,360 |
|
was calling for some kind of revolution in poetry |
|
|
|
731 |
|
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,260 |
|
and words and language is enough. Because for |
|
|
|
732 |
|
00:46:52,260 --> 00:46:55,700 |
|
them, without Wordsworth, we wouldn't have had |
|
|
|
733 |
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00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:59,860 |
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Shelley. He paved the way, he started it. It was |
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734 |
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Wordsworth, it was Coleridge who started this |
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735 |
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00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,400 |
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whole great movement of radical change in terms of |
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736 |
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language and poetry and also in terms of ideas and |
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737 |
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00:47:09,820 --> 00:47:12,680 |
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probably political ideas. And by the way, during |
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738 |
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00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,010 |
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his lifetime, there were many files that were |
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739 |
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00:47:16,010 --> 00:47:18,210 |
|
declassified later on. You know, we're talking |
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740 |
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00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:20,710 |
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about the times and age of revolutions, the |
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741 |
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00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:22,170 |
|
American Revolution, the Industrial Revolution, |
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742 |
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00:47:22,210 --> 00:47:24,350 |
|
but also the French Revolution. And England was |
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743 |
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00:47:24,350 --> 00:47:27,610 |
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like literally shaking because they were afraid |
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744 |
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another revolution is going to take care in |
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745 |
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00:47:30,430 --> 00:47:34,610 |
|
England, to take place in England. So the British |
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746 |
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00:47:34,610 --> 00:47:37,750 |
|
intelligence was spying on both Wordsworth and |
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747 |
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00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:42,370 |
|
Coleridge. And they were like, you can look up the |
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748 |
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00:47:42,370 --> 00:47:44,710 |
|
information and the reports those spies were |
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749 |
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00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:47,450 |
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writing about Coleridge. And I don't know, I don't |
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750 |
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00:47:47,450 --> 00:47:49,990 |
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know how they reacted when they were like, oh my |
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751 |
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00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:52,290 |
|
God, those people keep going to Lake District and |
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752 |
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00:47:52,290 --> 00:47:54,110 |
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staying in this cottage. I'm not sure what they're |
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753 |
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00:47:54,110 --> 00:47:57,830 |
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planning, what they're going to do. So they would |
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754 |
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00:47:57,830 --> 00:48:01,350 |
|
be sending somebody to listen and, I don't know, |
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755 |
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00:48:01,650 --> 00:48:04,310 |
|
Wordsworth would be saying, I wandered lonely as a |
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756 |
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00:48:04,310 --> 00:48:07,530 |
|
cloud. And if he, was he this, was this man or the |
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757 |
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00:48:07,530 --> 00:48:10,690 |
|
intelligence, like, were they trying to decipher |
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758 |
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00:48:10,690 --> 00:48:14,790 |
|
this, to, you know, to decode it? Is this a symbol |
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759 |
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00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:17,210 |
|
of something? I wandered lonely as what? Is this, |
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760 |
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00:48:17,770 --> 00:48:21,070 |
|
does this, I don't know. But this is something |
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761 |
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00:48:21,070 --> 00:48:24,750 |
|
else. So you could criticize Wordsworth for not |
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762 |
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00:48:24,750 --> 00:48:29,750 |
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being at least as radical as we want a poet to be, |
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763 |
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00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:33,130 |
|
but don't forget what he did in itself was a |
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764 |
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00:48:33,130 --> 00:48:36,010 |
|
revolution, a revolution that changed people's |
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765 |
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00:48:36,010 --> 00:48:38,930 |
|
mentalities and people's sensibilities and |
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766 |
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00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:40,810 |
|
people's way of viewing the world, of writing |
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767 |
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00:48:40,810 --> 00:48:44,850 |
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about the world. But Shelley is a different man. |
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768 |
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00:48:45,550 --> 00:48:49,470 |
|
Shelley was openly, and by the way, what we like |
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769 |
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00:48:49,470 --> 00:48:51,110 |
|
about Shelley is something that many people don't |
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770 |
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00:48:51,110 --> 00:48:53,690 |
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like about Shelley. They say he was clear, he was |
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771 |
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00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:57,570 |
|
open. So he was like a political preacher saying |
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772 |
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00:48:57,570 --> 00:49:02,710 |
|
to us, okay rise, go start up a revolution. I don't |
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773 |
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00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:05,890 |
|
think this is a very simplistic view of Shelley. But |
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774 |
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00:49:05,890 --> 00:49:09,230 |
|
Shelley, in many of his poems, was openly calling |
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775 |
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00:49:09,230 --> 00:49:12,390 |
|
for a revolution, to rise up. And I'm quoting |
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776 |
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00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:15,970 |
|
something here just for the sake of... In the |
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777 |
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00:49:15,970 --> 00:49:18,670 |
|
films of poetry, and I say by Shelley, he says, |
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778 |
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00:49:18,930 --> 00:49:20,770 |
|
poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the |
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779 |
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00:49:20,770 --> 00:49:23,110 |
|
world. They are the law, you know, members of the |
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780 |
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00:49:23,110 --> 00:49:26,510 |
|
parliament, the lawmakers, that's legislators. The |
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781 |
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00:49:26,510 --> 00:49:29,470 |
|
legislative council here, Palestinian Legislative |
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782 |
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00:49:29,470 --> 00:49:33,220 |
|
Council. So poets, They are the leaders, they are |
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783 |
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00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:35,420 |
|
the lawmakers of the society, but they are |
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784 |
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00:49:35,420 --> 00:49:38,760 |
|
unofficial. And also it was him who criticized, |
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785 |
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00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,860 |
|
harshly criticized the society, the British |
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786 |
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00:49:40,860 --> 00:49:43,420 |
|
society as being a society where the rich get |
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787 |
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00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:48,970 |
|
richer and the poor get poorer. And all to the |
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|
788 |
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00:49:48,970 --> 00:49:53,570 |
|
west wind. I'm just taking extracts here. Look at |
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789 |
|
00:49:53,570 --> 00:49:56,230 |
|
how he says destroy, he's calling for change, |
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790 |
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00:49:56,370 --> 00:49:58,910 |
|
destroyer and preserver. This is the wind, the |
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791 |
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00:49:58,910 --> 00:50:01,090 |
|
wind of change, I don't know, revolution. It |
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792 |
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00:50:01,090 --> 00:50:04,650 |
|
destroys, but it should also, it destroys to |
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793 |
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00:50:04,650 --> 00:50:12,290 |
|
build. Here or here. He's also here, drive my dead |
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794 |
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00:50:12,290 --> 00:50:17,540 |
|
thoughts to quicken a new birth. And also if you |
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|
795 |
|
00:50:17,540 --> 00:50:21,200 |
|
look there in the bottom here, the trumpet of a |
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796 |
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00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,940 |
|
prophecy, oh wind, if winter comes, can spring be |
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797 |
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00:50:25,940 --> 00:50:30,910 |
|
far behind? If winter comes, can spring be far |
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|
798 |
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00:50:30,910 --> 00:50:33,150 |
|
behind? In The Mask of Anarchy, I mentioned |
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|
799 |
|
00:50:33,150 --> 00:50:36,070 |
|
earlier about the massacre of Manchester when the |
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800 |
|
00:50:36,070 --> 00:50:39,470 |
|
British police shot dead many protesters. Again, |
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801 |
|
00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:41,970 |
|
that's a very beautiful long poem where he openly |
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802 |
|
00:50:41,970 --> 00:50:43,930 |
|
calls for this. And this is again beautiful. I |
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803 |
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00:50:43,930 --> 00:50:46,910 |
|
don't know why some people just don't like Shelley |
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804 |
|
00:50:46,910 --> 00:50:51,700 |
|
for being very obvious. Men of England, heirs of |
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805 |
|
00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:55,840 |
|
glory Heroes of unwritten story Nurslings of one |
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806 |
|
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,720 |
|
mighty mother Hopes of hair and one another Rise |
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807 |
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00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:05,920 |
|
like lions after slumber Wake up like lions when |
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808 |
|
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,820 |
|
they wake up after sleep Slumber is sleep You know |
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|
809 |
|
00:51:08,820 --> 00:51:10,900 |
|
slumber party when you go to somebody's place and |
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|
810 |
|
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:14,920 |
|
have fun and sleep there Rise like lions after |
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|
811 |
|
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,660 |
|
slumber In unvanquishable number Shake your chains |
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812 |
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00:51:19,660 --> 00:51:24,420 |
|
to earth like dew, which in sleep had fallen on |
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813 |
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00:51:24,420 --> 00:51:30,060 |
|
you. Ye are many, they are few. People are many, |
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814 |
|
00:51:30,180 --> 00:51:31,980 |
|
the police are few. |
|
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|
815 |
|
00:51:35,060 --> 00:51:38,700 |
|
Okay, before I go back to Ozymandias, I want you |
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816 |
|
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:41,820 |
|
to say something if you have to say something, |
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817 |
|
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,400 |
|
please. Comment on something. Comment on what I |
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818 |
|
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,060 |
|
said. Probably we can have time for that, for |
|
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|
819 |
|
00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:54,780 |
|
parodies. Please. Describing William Blake's work |
|
|
|
820 |
|
00:51:54,780 --> 00:52:00,240 |
|
as being not a Londoner as a play, this reminds me |
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|
821 |
|
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:05,760 |
|
of the poet that said, I think that this Arab |
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|
822 |
|
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,940 |
|
poet, he tried to... He's an outsider, you mean? |
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|
823 |
|
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,680 |
|
Exactly. Maybe these two can be related. Yes, we |
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|
824 |
|
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,200 |
|
do not accept this, but we accept this. |
|
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825 |
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00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:20,330 |
|
If you are an outsider, you don't feel, but again, |
|
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|
826 |
|
00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:25,430 |
|
you are a poet, you have to be special. Even if |
|
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|
827 |
|
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:27,890 |
|
you're not there, you have, even Wordsworth said |
|
|
|
828 |
|
00:52:27,890 --> 00:52:32,490 |
|
this, the extra comprehensive sensibility that |
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|
|
829 |
|
00:52:32,490 --> 00:52:35,570 |
|
poets own that other people don't. And it doesn't |
|
|
|
830 |
|
00:52:35,570 --> 00:52:38,170 |
|
mean he didn't know what was going on in London |
|
|
|
831 |
|
00:52:38,170 --> 00:52:44,630 |
|
and around the UK at that time. Please. Actually, |
|
|
|
832 |
|
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:49,390 |
|
I love both Wordsworth and Shelley, and at least |
|
|
|
833 |
|
00:52:49,390 --> 00:52:53,490 |
|
people call Wordsworth an escapist, but at least |
|
|
|
834 |
|
00:52:53,490 --> 00:52:56,070 |
|
Wordsworth as a man was true to himself, he didn't |
|
|
|
835 |
|
00:52:56,070 --> 00:52:58,410 |
|
pretend to be something he was not. Is Shelley |
|
|
|
836 |
|
00:52:58,410 --> 00:53:02,990 |
|
pretending something he was not? Shelly had so |
|
|
|
837 |
|
00:53:02,990 --> 00:53:07,690 |
|
many ideas that he expressed in his poetry, but as |
|
|
|
838 |
|
00:53:07,690 --> 00:53:14,570 |
|
a person, he never put them into action. Do you |
|
|
|
839 |
|
00:53:14,570 --> 00:53:17,670 |
|
know that the second generation of the Romantics |
|
|
|
840 |
|
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:20,990 |
|
were very young, even died young? Shelley and Keats |
|
|
|
841 |
|
00:53:20,990 --> 00:53:25,330 |
|
and Byron, all of them. They were jinxed. And you |
|
|
|
842 |
|
00:53:25,330 --> 00:53:30,270 |
|
might not know this. When Wordsworth and Coleridge |
|
|
|
843 |
|
00:53:30,270 --> 00:53:32,710 |
|
were writing poetry, they were not born yet. They |
|
|
|
844 |
|
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:35,230 |
|
were born, they wrote poetry, they died, and |
|
|
|
845 |
|
00:53:35,230 --> 00:53:39,270 |
|
Wordsworth didn't want to die. He became like this |
|
|
|
846 |
|
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:42,030 |
|
patriarchal figure. Please read what Byron says |
|
|
|
847 |
|
00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:43,130 |
|
about Wordsworth and Coleridge. |
|
|
|
848 |
|
00:53:45,790 --> 00:53:48,870 |
|
He attacks them openly in his poetry. |
|
|
|
849 |
|
00:54:03,380 --> 00:54:09,320 |
|
You know who's which romantic poet was More active |
|
|
|
850 |
|
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,180 |
|
in his life than others than just being a romantic |
|
|
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851 |
|
00:54:12,180 --> 00:54:18,290 |
|
and lying there? Do you know it was Byron? Byron |
|
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852 |
|
00:54:18,290 --> 00:54:20,170 |
|
was always a fighter. He was fighting against the |
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|
853 |
|
00:54:20,170 --> 00:54:23,230 |
|
Ottoman Empire somewhere in Cyprus, I guess. |
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854 |
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00:54:28,050 --> 00:54:32,530 |
|
Shelley was rich. Shelley was also rich. Shelley was |
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855 |
|
00:54:32,530 --> 00:54:37,980 |
|
rich. Okay, so three years ago, three years ago, |
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856 |
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00:54:39,940 --> 00:54:41,560 |
|
you know, when we talk about Ozymandias, going |
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857 |
|
00:54:41,560 --> |
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|
889 |
|
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:57,250 |
|
I don't know what this brings to mind other than |
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|
890 |
|
00:56:57,250 --> 00:56:57,670 |
|
nightmares. |
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891 |
|
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:06,160 |
|
But in no way this looks like this Probably it's |
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892 |
|
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:13,940 |
|
similar in a bit in a way I don't know And |
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|
|
893 |
|
00:57:13,940 --> 00:57:22,560 |
|
then this one Compare the almost real picture to |
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|
894 |
|
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:28,590 |
|
the sculpture I'll come back to this in a bit. Now |
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|
895 |
|
00:57:28,590 --> 00:57:30,750 |
|
going back to the text so we can wrap things up. |
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|
896 |
|
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:33,210 |
|
Remember I told you this is a, we mentioned this |
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897 |
|
00:57:33,210 --> 00:57:36,590 |
|
in passing, but I want to repeat things so we have |
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|
898 |
|
00:57:36,590 --> 00:57:37,410 |
|
confirmation. |
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|
899 |
|
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,920 |
|
I said that this could be read in many ways. There |
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|
900 |
|
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,180 |
|
is an American critic, M.H. Abrams, who drew this. |
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901 |
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00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,400 |
|
He said there are four main categories. Almost all |
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902 |
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00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,200 |
|
literary theories can be categorized under these |
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903 |
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00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,620 |
|
four parts. But he doesn't draw a square, he does |
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|
904 |
|
00:57:57,620 --> 00:58:00,780 |
|
a triangle. He says there are theories that |
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905 |
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00:58:00,780 --> 00:58:02,700 |
|
examine the text, the relationship between the |
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906 |
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00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:05,590 |
|
text and the world, the universe. There are |
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907 |
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00:58:05,590 --> 00:58:08,090 |
|
theories that examine the relationship between the |
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908 |
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00:58:08,090 --> 00:58:13,510 |
|
text and the writer, the poet. Expressive, this is |
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909 |
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00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:16,770 |
|
mimetic theories, you know, my missus is my |
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910 |
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00:58:16,770 --> 00:58:23,590 |
|
missus. This is expressive theories. And there are |
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911 |
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00:58:23,590 --> 00:58:25,690 |
|
theories that study the relationship between the |
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912 |
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00:58:25,690 --> 00:58:31,630 |
|
text and the reader, the audience. What is the |
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|
913 |
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00:58:31,630 --> 00:58:36,250 |
|
fourth category? Thank you very much. The theories |
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|
914 |
|
00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:39,030 |
|
that examine the text, the relationship, like what |
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|
915 |
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00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:43,790 |
|
we have, the words on the page. We are involved in |
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|
916 |
|
00:58:43,790 --> 00:58:47,010 |
|
a process of close reading of the text. This is M |
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917 |
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00:58:47,010 --> 00:58:51,290 |
|
.H. Abrams, mimetic theories, the relationship |
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918 |
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00:58:51,290 --> 00:58:53,350 |
|
between the text and the world, the universe, how |
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919 |
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00:58:53,350 --> 00:58:56,210 |
|
close the representation is. And then the |
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920 |
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00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:59,370 |
|
expressive theories, basically the romantic theory |
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921 |
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00:58:59,370 --> 00:59:03,040 |
|
here, how poetry is self-expression. and how the |
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922 |
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00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,020 |
|
poet and the poem are one, inseparable. And then |
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923 |
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00:59:07,020 --> 00:59:09,480 |
|
the pragmatic theories, the didactic theories, |
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924 |
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00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,420 |
|
where poetry is written to teach and delight. So |
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925 |
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00:59:12,420 --> 00:59:15,060 |
|
you examine the relationship between, you examine |
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926 |
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00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:18,540 |
|
the impact the text has on the reader, the |
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927 |
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00:59:18,540 --> 00:59:20,520 |
|
audience. And then finally, the objective |
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928 |
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00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,840 |
|
theories, usually this is 20th century theories, |
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929 |
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00:59:23,060 --> 00:59:26,920 |
|
like new criticism and even structuralism, |
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930 |
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00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:29,360 |
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formalism, and deconstruction, et cetera. |
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931 |
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00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,720 |
|
Objective theories, They say the text is self |
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932 |
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00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:39,300 |
|
-enclosed, autonomous, independent of the |
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933 |
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00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:41,820 |
|
surrounding, even the social circumstances and the |
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934 |
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00:59:41,820 --> 00:59:44,940 |
|
life of the author. The meaning of the text is in |
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935 |
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00:59:44,940 --> 00:59:48,040 |
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the text. All you need to do is to look at the |
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936 |
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00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,580 |
|
words on the page, to do a close reading, to |
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937 |
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00:59:50,580 --> 00:59:53,200 |
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examine the form, the shape, the structure, the |
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938 |
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00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,160 |
|
language, the literary devices, the ironies, the |
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939 |
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00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,300 |
|
puns, the ambiguity, the paradoxes, and if you |
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940 |
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00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:01,120 |
|
understand this, if you see the binary opposites, |
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941 |
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01:00:01,180 --> 01:00:02,960 |
|
you get the tension, you understand the poem. |
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942 |
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01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:09,180 |
|
Okay? So if we go back to the text, like we did |
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943 |
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01:00:09,180 --> 01:00:14,160 |
|
last time, New criticism, new critic, this is what |
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944 |
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01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,200 |
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we usually do. We focus more on what the text |
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945 |
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01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,740 |
|
tells us without the, so this thing, remember we |
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946 |
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01:00:21,740 --> 01:00:25,640 |
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said that the sonnet here, the poem is a sonnet. |
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947 |
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01:00:26,900 --> 01:00:31,000 |
|
We describe this sonnet as, thank you very much, |
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948 |
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01:00:31,460 --> 01:00:35,100 |
|
some kind of a formless sonnet in the sense that |
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949 |
|
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:38,060 |
|
it doesn't have a regular rhyme scheme. |
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950 |
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01:00:41,250 --> 01:00:44,090 |
|
Even the rhyme scheme itself here has like three |
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951 |
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01:00:44,090 --> 01:00:47,750 |
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imperfect rhymes. It doesn't have clear structure |
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952 |
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01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:53,310 |
|
in terms of octaves, sextets, couplets. You don't |
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953 |
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01:00:53,310 --> 01:00:57,070 |
|
know where things go, where things end. Now |
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954 |
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01:00:57,070 --> 01:01:01,670 |
|
usually we need to make this observation for us to |
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955 |
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01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:04,330 |
|
ask a very significant question. Why is this? In |
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956 |
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01:01:04,330 --> 01:01:09,150 |
|
order to look for the meaning. Why is this there? |
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957 |
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01:01:12,930 --> 01:01:16,810 |
|
Why does the poet not follow Shakespeare or |
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958 |
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01:01:16,810 --> 01:01:19,750 |
|
Petrarch? This is the kind of question I would be |
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959 |
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01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:22,690 |
|
asking you in your exams. You should be aware of |
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960 |
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01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:26,650 |
|
that. So I might ask you, why doesn't Shelley |
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961 |
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01:01:26,650 --> 01:01:33,810 |
|
follow the Shakespearean sonnet or the Petrarchan |
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962 |
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01:01:33,810 --> 01:01:37,900 |
|
sonnet or both? I could be more specific. In this |
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963 |
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01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:39,920 |
|
case, this question is a little bit general. I |
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964 |
|
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,500 |
|
want you to zoom in for the specific point. I want |
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965 |
|
01:01:42,500 --> 01:01:44,380 |
|
you to start the answer, your topic sentence |
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966 |
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01:01:44,380 --> 01:01:49,440 |
|
saying that Shelley uses a formless and irregular |
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967 |
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01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:54,200 |
|
sonnet. First, you need to show me where it is, |
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968 |
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01:01:54,300 --> 01:01:58,220 |
|
why, how it is irregular. And second, you need to |
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969 |
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01:01:58,220 --> 01:02:02,940 |
|
connect this with the theme of the topic. So in |
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970 |
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01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:05,780 |
|
many ways, what do we have inside the poem? What |
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971 |
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01:02:05,780 --> 01:02:09,680 |
|
we have inside the poem is ruins, remains, wreck, |
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972 |
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01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:13,420 |
|
right? We have something that's shattered and |
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973 |
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01:02:13,420 --> 01:02:17,200 |
|
broken. We have the remains of something. So in |
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974 |
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01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,410 |
|
many ways, I see that he is echoing this. He's |
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975 |
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01:02:21,410 --> 01:02:24,390 |
|
echoing this as if he's saying we don't Arabs, |
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976 |
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01:02:24,930 --> 01:02:29,570 |
|
Africans, we don't deserve a perfect sonnet. |
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977 |
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01:02:30,410 --> 01:02:33,310 |
|
So when the poem is about decline of authority, |
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978 |
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01:02:33,470 --> 01:02:36,950 |
|
decline of about the, I usually like to use this |
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979 |
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01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:40,410 |
|
term because there is less, trunkless, lifeless, |
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980 |
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01:02:40,570 --> 01:02:43,310 |
|
three lesses, right? And boundless, and also |
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981 |
|
01:02:43,310 --> 01:02:48,310 |
|
rhymeless, formless, so it's about less, lessness. |
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982 |
|
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,760 |
|
about decay, about destructiveness, about |
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983 |
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01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,920 |
|
transience of time. This is a romantic theme in |
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984 |
|
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,400 |
|
many ways. |
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985 |
|
01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:02,300 |
|
The second thing we need to look at is, we |
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986 |
|
01:03:02,300 --> 01:03:05,140 |
|
mentioned the rhymes, sorry, the puns here, the |
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987 |
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01:03:05,140 --> 01:03:09,400 |
|
possible puns in lies. The shuttered visage, lies. |
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988 |
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01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,540 |
|
Lies there is sitting there, lying around, but |
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989 |
|
01:03:13,540 --> 01:03:16,160 |
|
also lies not telling the truth. So the facial |
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990 |
|
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,440 |
|
expressions are lying to us. And also mock which |
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991 |
|
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,780 |
|
has two meanings, mock to imitate, to copy and |
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992 |
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01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:27,540 |
|
mock to ridicule, to make fun of. But look at how |
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993 |
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01:03:27,540 --> 01:03:29,960 |
|
beautiful this is, how this changes because time |
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994 |
|
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,600 |
|
changes. At that time mock meant only mock |
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995 |
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01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,970 |
|
imitate. He imitated the facial expressions, these |
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996 |
|
01:03:36,970 --> 01:03:40,350 |
|
passions perfectly. But now that it is broken, |
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997 |
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01:03:40,570 --> 01:03:45,410 |
|
destroyed, shattered, half sunk and nothing but |
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998 |
|
01:03:45,410 --> 01:03:48,670 |
|
decay and desert and sands around, this means |
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999 |
|
01:03:48,670 --> 01:03:52,920 |
|
mocking may make fun, make fun of. Now the most |
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1000 |
|
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,360 |
|
significant thing, probably one of the most |
|
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1001 |
|
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,160 |
|
significant ironies in English poetry is, my name |
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1002 |
|
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,040 |
|
is Ozymandias, king of kings. Look on my works, ye |
|
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|
1003 |
|
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,300 |
|
mighty and ye and. When we look, what do we find? |
|
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|
1004 |
|
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,600 |
|
It's ironic because it says, I am king of kings, |
|
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|
1005 |
|
01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:09,560 |
|
but in reality, look at him. He's no king, he's |
|
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|
1006 |
|
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:14,540 |
|
nothing. Even the greatest of us will die also. |
|
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|
1007 |
|
01:04:15,950 --> 01:04:19,250 |
|
But I also want you to think of how now, for |
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|
1008 |
|
01:04:19,250 --> 01:04:22,790 |
|
example, when all sculptures have been fixed and |
|
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|
1009 |
|
01:04:22,790 --> 01:04:27,630 |
|
rebuilt by scientists in the past century. So it |
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|
1010 |
|
01:04:27,630 --> 01:04:31,630 |
|
was all standing and powerful and then it was |
|
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|
1011 |
|
01:04:31,630 --> 01:04:35,230 |
|
destroyed and now it's going back to. So I think |
|
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|
1012 |
|
01:04:35,230 --> 01:04:38,810 |
|
this changes the way we react to this. Imagine |
|
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|
1013 |
|
01:04:38,810 --> 01:04:41,870 |
|
yourself living in the time of Ozymandias and |
|
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|
1014 |
|
01:04:41,870 --> 01:04:45,600 |
|
passing by this. you would be shaking, right? |
|
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|
1015 |
|
01:04:45,700 --> 01:04:48,840 |
|
You'd be like, oh, because it is intimidating. |
|
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|
1016 |
|
01:04:49,020 --> 01:04:53,500 |
|
This was a sign he's even calling us to despair. |
|
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|
1017 |
|
01:04:55,020 --> 01:04:58,460 |
|
Not his |
|
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|
1018 |
|
01:04:58,460 --> 01:05:01,400 |
|
people, the mighty, like some suggested that this |
|
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|
1019 |
|
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,780 |
|
could be a call for the enemies, look, you can't |
|
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|
1020 |
|
01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:06,100 |
|
defeat us, which changes many things about him. |
|
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|
1021 |
|
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:11,580 |
|
Now, both the irony and the puns create ambiguity. |
|
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|
1022 |
|
01:05:13,230 --> 01:05:16,110 |
|
Create a paradox here. Does he mean this? Does he |
|
|
|
1023 |
|
01:05:16,110 --> 01:05:18,550 |
|
mean that? What does it mean? Does it mean lying? |
|
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|
1024 |
|
01:05:18,770 --> 01:05:20,230 |
|
Does it mean just sitting there? |
|
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|
1025 |
|
01:05:23,210 --> 01:05:26,330 |
|
Now analyzing this is what a new critic would be |
|
|
|
1026 |
|
01:05:26,330 --> 01:05:27,210 |
|
doing. |
|
|
|
1027 |
|
01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:32,250 |
|
Remember we said post-colonialism with Edward |
|
|
|
1028 |
|
01:05:32,250 --> 01:05:38,130 |
|
Said, another post-colonial would be interested on |
|
|
|
1029 |
|
01:05:38,130 --> 01:05:42,470 |
|
how the text is constructing the idea, the image |
|
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|
1030 |
|
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:47,050 |
|
of the other, us. People of the Middle East, Asia, |
|
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|
1031 |
|
01:05:47,450 --> 01:05:51,150 |
|
and Africa, and India, and probably the Caribbean, |
|
|
|
1032 |
|
01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:53,790 |
|
South America, like people who are not European, |
|
|
|
1033 |
|
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:56,830 |
|
white, et cetera. I love this statement by Edward |
|
|
|
1034 |
|
01:05:56,830 --> 01:06:01,130 |
|
Said from Orientalism. The Orient, us, shock, has |
|
|
|
1035 |
|
01:06:01,130 --> 01:06:04,370 |
|
helped to define Europe or the West as its |
|
|
|
1036 |
|
01:06:05,710 --> 01:06:07,830 |
|
contrasting image. We always want something to |
|
|
|
1037 |
|
01:06:07,830 --> 01:06:09,850 |
|
compare to so we understand where we're lying. |
|
|
|
1038 |
|
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,320 |
|
Contrasting image, idea, personality, experience, |
|
|
|
1039 |
|
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,280 |
|
et cetera. So we were significant because if we |
|
|
|
1040 |
|
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,700 |
|
are backward, they are advanced. If we are |
|
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|
1041 |
|
01:06:18,700 --> 01:06:22,720 |
|
inferior, they are superior. If we are savages, |
|
|
|
1042 |
|
01:06:22,860 --> 01:06:26,100 |
|
uncivilized, they are civilized. And there's this |
|
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|
1043 |
|
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:30,220 |
|
thing about the white man, the moral obligation to |
|
|
|
1044 |
|
01:06:30,220 --> 01:06:32,720 |
|
come here and to civilize us. Yes, to take all our |
|
|
|
1045 |
|
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,060 |
|
gold and raw materials and everything, but it's |
|
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|
1046 |
|
01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:38,400 |
|
their job to come. It's their moral obligation to |
|
|
|
1047 |
|
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,010 |
|
come and to civilize us. So Edward Said would be |
|
|
|
1048 |
|
01:06:42,010 --> 01:06:44,710 |
|
questioning how he's constructing this idea, this |
|
|
|
1049 |
|
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:46,570 |
|
negative idea about the Middle East, leaving |
|
|
|
1050 |
|
01:06:46,570 --> 01:06:50,010 |
|
everything and focusing on how the sand, the |
|
|
|
1051 |
|
01:06:50,010 --> 01:06:52,530 |
|
desert, the antique, the shattered, how he |
|
|
|
1052 |
|
01:06:52,530 --> 01:06:56,150 |
|
presents Arabs as or Africans as people who weep |
|
|
|
1053 |
|
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:59,010 |
|
over the spilled milk. We are invested in the |
|
|
|
1054 |
|
01:06:59,010 --> 01:07:02,310 |
|
past. We're not invested in the present or even in |
|
|
|
1055 |
|
01:07:02,310 --> 01:07:05,870 |
|
the future. I also find two things interesting. |
|
|
|
1056 |
|
01:07:07,220 --> 01:07:10,620 |
|
How did this traveler get there? We don't know. |
|
|
|
1057 |
|
01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:13,660 |
|
We're not told. How did he understand the |
|
|
|
1058 |
|
01:07:13,660 --> 01:07:16,720 |
|
inscription written in ancient Egyptian language? |
|
|
|
1059 |
|
01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:20,560 |
|
My assumption is that there must be a guide and a |
|
|
|
1060 |
|
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,240 |
|
translator or one person who did this thing. But |
|
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|
1061 |
|
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,980 |
|
what is he doing to them, to the locals? He's |
|
|
|
1062 |
|
01:07:26,980 --> 01:07:30,270 |
|
erasing them. They don't exist. They don't exist, |
|
|
|
1063 |
|
01:07:30,370 --> 01:07:34,570 |
|
exactly like what Zionist poetry literature did to |
|
|
|
1064 |
|
01:07:34,570 --> 01:07:36,750 |
|
Palestine and Palestinians. Palestinians never |
|
|
|
1065 |
|
01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:39,690 |
|
existed. It's a land without a people waiting for |
|
|
|
1066 |
|
01:07:39,690 --> 01:07:41,690 |
|
a people without a land. And when Palestinians |
|
|
|
1067 |
|
01:07:41,690 --> 01:07:45,270 |
|
exist there, they're savages. They're uncivilized. |
|
|
|
1068 |
|
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:49,150 |
|
And I also find it interesting because I'm sure |
|
|
|
1069 |
|
01:07:49,150 --> 01:07:52,250 |
|
some of you want to be translators. Sadly, |
|
|
|
1070 |
|
01:07:52,410 --> 01:07:54,550 |
|
translators don't take a lot of credit. They're |
|
|
|
1071 |
|
01:07:54,550 --> 01:07:57,050 |
|
usually erased. If you do a great job, usually |
|
|
|
1072 |
|
01:07:57,050 --> 01:07:59,810 |
|
people don't care about you. If you just make one |
|
|
|
1073 |
|
01:07:59,810 --> 01:08:03,350 |
|
tiny little mistake, you have to pay for that. |
|
|
|
1074 |
|
01:08:06,330 --> 01:08:10,150 |
|
Okay, look at the feminist reading here. And this |
|
|
|
1075 |
|
01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:15,460 |
|
can be seen as overstretching by some of you. Now |
|
|
|
1076 |
|
01:08:1 |
|
|
|
1111 |
|
01:10:09,390 --> 01:10:11,590 |
|
but think about this, because there's this, always |
|
|
|
1112 |
|
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:14,310 |
|
please, think about how we have always been |
|
|
|
1113 |
|
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:17,090 |
|
trained and even most of you here, if you paid |
|
|
|
1114 |
|
01:10:17,090 --> 01:10:19,790 |
|
attention, when you talk about the poet, you say |
|
|
|
1115 |
|
01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:22,410 |
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he, even when some of you talk about the reader, |
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you say he. Why would you assume that the reader |
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is a he? The poet is a he. Okay, so I'll stop |
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here, but before if you have any question, any |
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point to raise, please do. Okay, thank you very |
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much. If you have a question, you can stay behind |
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or you can rush back to your other classes. |
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