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As-salamu alaykum. Again, today we continue doing
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our English poetry course at the Islamic
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University of Gaza. Last time we had a discussion
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on the nature of poetry and what to do with poetry
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in order to understand and approach poetry. I
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spoke about my major objectives in this course. We
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also spoke about techniques
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in order to approach poetry. I'm going to be
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repeating some of these issues in today's class as
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we define poetry and continue to take examples of
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poetry from English, and today we'll have an
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example from Arabic poetry. If you remember, last
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time we concluded with one significant fact, which
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is if there's something in a text, in a literary
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text, especially in a poem, it's almost always
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there for a reason. There's a purpose behind it.
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Poets select carefully their words, their images,
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their metaphors, their sounds even, their rhymes,
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what to say and what not to say. This is a quote
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that I like very much about poetry. It says, in
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poetry, every word and every sound and everything
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counts. It has a purpose; it impacts the way, the
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direction of the poem, and it impacts the
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reception of the poem by the reader. Everything
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has its function and makes a difference. And we
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should always ask why certain words or sounds or
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phrases or images or metaphors are used instead of
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another. I claim sometimes that creative writing,
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poetry, fiction writing is a process of making
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choices: what to write and what not to write. This
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applies actually to writing, to speaking, but
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because we speak involuntarily, when we write
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academically or any kind of writing, especially
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creative writing, we try to carefully choose what
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to say and what not to say. And then last time, I
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kind of drew the iceberg. This is an iceberg.
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Maybe the tip here is a lot bigger than the one I
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drew last time. But usually what we see is the
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tip. There's also an idiom in English that says
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it's only the tip of the iceberg, because what's
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hidden, what's beneath is almost always more,
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sometimes more important, more significant. So any
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person, any text, any poem shows us this tiny
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thing in the tip. Our job is to use what we see,
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the tip, and to dive deeper and make connections
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and try to understand the implied meanings, the
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things that are hidden beneath that can tell us
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many things, not only actually beliefs and values
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and ideas and themes, but also things related to
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the form and the structure and the sounds of the
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poem. So before I ask you to give me your own
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definition of poetry, I want to repeat something
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I also said last time. A poem shouldn't mean, but
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be.
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Last time I said, don't let a poem be engaged.
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This could be contradictory. Like, leave the poem
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as it is. And I don't want you to misunderstand me
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here. It means that no explanation, no summary, no
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interpretation of a poem can do any poem justice.
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Because if you want to explain a poem, you need to
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rewrite it, to say it in other words. And saying a
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poem, a text in other words, usually takes away
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the beauty of the text. And this happens to us all
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the time. Like, you read a poem or you memorize a
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line or two lines of verse and you go to someone
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and say, "Hey, today I read these beautiful lines,"
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"beautiful, what are they about?" Like he's saying, "If
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uh, uh, because you're courageous, you can you beat
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everybody, even the heroes. Okay, this idea, I get
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this idea all the time; people say it all the time.
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No, no, no, but in the poetry, in the lines, it's
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really fascinating, the imagery, the sounds, the
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choice, the choice of words. So many people, I'm one
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of those people; I'm against summarizing poetry.
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If you want to talk about poetry to people, show
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them the poem. But because this is a poetry class,
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we need to try to understand and analyze and
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interpret poetry. What should we do? We need to
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follow particular techniques. I'm not going to say
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scientific techniques of understanding poetry,
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but some techniques, some methods and strategies
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in order to appreciate poetry even more.
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And here, this is a significant point also, the
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only meaning of poetry that really matters is its
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effect on you as you read it or hear it, the
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impact of the poem on you as a reader. And again,
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don't let the poem be. So there are two things
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here: we need to engage, we need to make the
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influence, to feel the influence of the poem, the
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impact of the poem, but at the same time, we don't
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want to look at poetry as just a story that I can
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rephrase and paraphrase, because I have just said
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that every word, every image, every sound, every
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phrase, every metaphor is carefully and
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meticulously selected by
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Now, remember last time we came up with this list
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when we spoke about poetry? Rhyme, rhythm, sounds,
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lines, ellipses, repetition. Sometimes poetry
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doesn't follow the rules of grammar. Now I want
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you to look again here, please, at this with the
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imagery and literary devices and everything. Look
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at the list. I'm sure you still remember most of
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them. And I'll give you two minutes to try to come
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up with your own definition of poetry, in the
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light of these words, or if you don't want to use
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them, it's up to you. But when we spoke of the
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nature of poetry last time, when we talk about
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poetry, we talk about these things, more or less.
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So, what is poetry? What is poetry? You don't have
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to be Shakespeare to define it. Just tell me what
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you feel. Tell me what you think of poetry. The
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nature of poetry. If you want to define poetry. If
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somebody in a taxi, in a bus, if your mom says,
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"poetry," what is poetry? Why is there a course for
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poetry in particular? Because there are other
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courses you study for. I know short story, novel,
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drama.
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Mm-hmm. Do
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you think there is one correct definition of
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poetry? Okay, thank you. This is not mathematics
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or physics. Got it. So
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poetry is... Now, I want to give you one more minute
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to share your definition with your classmate.
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Show her your definition and see her definition of
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poetry and try to see where you meet and where you
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differ.
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Could you please share your definition with your
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friend, yeah? Same here, yeah?
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I'll ask you two questions in a minute: how you
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define poetry and then whether you agree or
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disagree with your classmate.
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Did you focus on the same thing?
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Are you jealous because your friend's definition
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is better than yours? Are you proud because yours
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is better than hers?
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You proud? Excellent. This is the spirit. This is
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the spirit I want. Okay. You're proud of each
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other because you both did well. Good. That's the
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spirit. Okay. Somebody please share your
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definition.
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Oh,
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that's a big definition. It's also beautiful. Can
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you say it again? So there are words, definitely
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there are words, and in words we can find images,
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actions, okay, and feelings. Wow.
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I like... is there rhythmically... even a word. Thank you
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for coining this if it's not a word already.
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Rhythmically arranged.
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Okay, so there is a purpose here. You want to
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influence, to impact the readers. That's a
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definition. I think we... send it to me; I'll add it
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to the book. It's beautiful. Please, over there.
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Poetry is a group of words that are designed on
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the basis of technological rules in order to reach
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others and express our feelings. Okay, so poetry,
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say again. It's a group of words. Group of words.
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Designed, design. Okay. I like also the word design
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because it shows intention, to... You
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know, that to reach others. So to reach out, express
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feelings and emotion. Fantastic, please. So
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deep thoughts, necessarily. Okay.
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Shared using metaphors and music,
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different types of music. So thoughts that are
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deep, necessarily shared in a particular way, more,
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this way, please. It's an art of the language that
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expresses feelings and ideas in an organized way.
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In an organized way, using rhythm. Okay, very good
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also. Yes, Hanin.
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Organized in?
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In a musical way? Following particular forms. Can
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somebody tell me something about your friend's
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definition of poetry? What did you like about your
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friend's definition of poetry? Did you find
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something that you didn't mention? Okay, what did
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you find? Okay.
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She used a simile to talk about poetry where
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painting and pictures could be connected in a way.
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How? How can you connect pictures and how can you
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bring pictures and poetry together? Because
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pictures, colors, but pictures use colors, paints,
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a canvas. And poetry, most of you just said this,
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poetry uses words. Like Hamlet says, "Words, words,
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words." Please.
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That's an excellent connection. The imagination,
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the visualization, poetry brings things to life.
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Okay?
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This is probably one of the most important reasons
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why we, when we read poetry, we imagine everything
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as a, as like a picture or a movie happening in
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front of us. Do you have to feel this all the
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time? No. Because there are some poems that are
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very abstract, intentionally done so. Well, there
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has to be a purpose for doing it. Okay. Thank you
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very much.
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Like, do you mean a story with characters and...?
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So you'
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wants to say their definition. I wanted to comment
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on what I was saying. I wanted to say that I don't
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think that by saying that poetry makes you imagine
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things that you are drawing a whole picture in
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your mind. Maybe it's just the whole idea of
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making your mind work and not only being confused
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by the complexity or the ambiguity in the poem
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itself. So I think that it doesn't have to make
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you draw a whole picture in your mind. Yeah, of
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course. Again, it depends on how the different
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schools of poetry, the different background,
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different philosophy, different age, different
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time. We see there is a movement in the 20th
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century. I'll give you an example for that. It's
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called imagism, where the whole poem is one image,
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concrete image that brings, expresses a
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particular, could be an abstract experience in an
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image. Ezra Pound, T.S. Eliot. It's called
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Imagism, a modernist movement early 20th century.
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We can't imagine this poem. If you can't imagine,
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visualize. Either the poem failed or you have
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you're hungry, your imagination isn't triggered yet.
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Okay, definition. My definition is the best words in
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their best organization. And also I want to share
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no, no. How is that? Can you explain because this
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is something good to say: the best words in the
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best organization. When we have a group of words or
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when we want to write a poem, we try to choose
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some words that are selective words to reach our
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meaning, maybe our feelings. In this organization,
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because sometimes we, even when we write our
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poetry for the first time, sometimes we feel the
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meaning will be there when we... this way, not this
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way. Inversion, fronting, this word instead of
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that word. Okay, I think I like all your
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definitions. Okay, go on. I want to share
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something that I read about Samuel Johnson. They
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asked him about what is poetry, and he said, oh, I
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think it's easier to say what it's not. What it's
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not. Yeah. Okay. Samuel Johnson triggers me,
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actually, because he hates John Donne. And I
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wouldn't take him seriously. No offense to, if you
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liked Samuel Johnson. And because he was involved,
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actually, in the debate. He said that John Donne
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doesn't write poetry. It doesn't necessarily
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matter. In this course, we need to learn that
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there are no authorities that we need to follow
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100%. Even T.S. Eliot, the best poet in the 20th
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century, one of the best critics. But sometimes,
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even T.S. Eliot... Sorry, T.S. Eliot. I see it the
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other way. He's different. And again, this is what
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I try to do to encourage you to think outside the
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stupid, clichéd box. Think for yourselves. Please.
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I like the way she defines poetry. Who's she?
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Who's she? Asma. Okay, Asma. Go on. Because she
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said that poetry is the overflow of feelings and
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emotions using the apt words.
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That's Asma Wordsworth.
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Okay. Is Wordsworth a relative, William? Do you
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know him? Is he a friend, a Facebook friend? Because
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this is closely taken from what Wordsworth says.
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One of the definitions that we will be seeing in a
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bit. So thank you very much, all of you. Okay, so I
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have six definitions here of poetry. Could you
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read number one, please, someone? Please. Poetry
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is like painting. Poetry is like painting. That's
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Horace. That's over a thousand, almost more than 2
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000 years ago. Poetry is like painting. Number
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two.
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If you notice, this is old, by the way. This is 500
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years ago or so. Painting, picture, almost the
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same. This guy is Sidney, Sir Philip Sidney, okay.
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With the end, most of you spoke about influencing
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others, impacting others, reaching out to others.
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In this classical definition, neoclassical
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definition of poetry, poetry has to teach, poetry
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has to delight. There is an end to poetry. They
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didn't believe in art for art's sake, writing
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poetry just for the sake of writing poetry. Number
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three. Okay, maybe Asma, she's familiar with this.
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Okay.
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This is William Wordsworth, a Romantic poet. Now
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look at this. Many people would just stop here at
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feelings. This is 50% of the definition. The
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spontaneous overflow. So it's feelings that are
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powerful, with an overflow and at the same time
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spontaneous. It's not intentional. You don't say
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okay, now I want to write a poem. I want to make a
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poem. You're just inspired by a natural scene, a
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scenery.
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The second part, we'll see how significant the
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second part is, "recollected in tranquility."
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Recollected in tranquility. There's something
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related to memory here, recollecting something,
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recalling something that happened in the past. In
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Romanticism, there is a difference between
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reacting instantly to an event and then absorbing
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it, bearing it in your mind and heart, and then
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when in a vacant or impulsive mood later on,
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recalling this experience. So feelings, we move
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from painting, from picture, to teaching and
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delighting, to feelings, internal, self-
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expression, that is recollected in tranquility.
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Number four, please.
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Okay, this is something interesting from Samuel
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Taylor, another Romantic poet and critic: prose is
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words in their best order. Because we don't want to
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trash prose here. When we write prose, we also
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deliberately choose what to say and what not
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to say. But because sometimes we write a lot of
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prose, like you write a book, a novel, a long
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research paper, sometimes it's really demanding,
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it's really... it's not easy to choose and pick
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carefully everything you do in the text. But when
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you write a short poem, half a page, one page, two
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pages, basically it's easier. So poetry is the
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best words in their best order because the way you
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order things matters. Five, please.
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Poetry, again, this is another Romantic poet and
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critic, Coleridge. Poetry makes familiar objects be
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as if they were not familiar, unfamiliar. Again,
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in Romanticism, there's something called
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defamiliarization.
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Is it Van Gogh, the guy who draws the sunflowers?
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Keeps drawing the same thing again and again and
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again. Every time you see the picture, it's like,
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wow, as if you've never seen this before. In
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Romanticism, we call this the childlike
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experience. Kids almost always react to things as
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if they have just seen them, unlike adults. So
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when we grow up, there is a veil of familiarity
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over our hearts and minds. We don't enjoy the
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beauty of things. And I usually ask this question
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to the students, when was the last time you looked
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up at the moon and said, wow, what a beautiful
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scene? We don't. We don't have the time. We can't
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see because of the concrete, because we're busy,
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because we're spending 24/7 of our time
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online, on Facebook, social media. When was the
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last time you stopped to, I don't know, to feed
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the cat here around campus, to look at the
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artificial kind of nature, the trees, the flowers,
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the roses? But look at the kids. The kids, when
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they see things again and again, they're just
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like, you know, when they start talking and they
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see the light, "daw, daw." Every time they look up,
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they're like, "daw," right? The light, the light.
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They just keep saying the same word again and again. And
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when they see the moon or they see a donkey in the
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street, it's like, "mah, mah, mah," right? Even if
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they see it like every minute or so. This is a
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Romantic concept. That's why childhood is
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significant in Romanticism. It's called
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defamiliarization, this defamiliarization thing,
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defamiliarizing things in order for you to see
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them anew, to see them afresh. And personally,
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he's one of the most fascinating poets of all
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time. He's a revolutionary poet. Number six.
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Please. There's a magical creation of beauty, for
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American poet and writer Edgar Allan Poe. Edgar
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Allan Poe also has a definition of poetry, the
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rhythmical creation of beauty. You turn beauty
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which is abstract into something rhythmical,
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musical. You turn beauty into music, no matter
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what it is. Which one do you like the most?
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Please. Okay, why is that?
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The words are beautiful. Aha, so the words
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themselves are poetic. Okay, that's nice, a nice
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way of putting it. I like the sound of the words,
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please. Yeah,
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nice.
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But here he's turning abstract ideas of beauty
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into music, into words, into forms, into small
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forms, like babies, babies, and how beautiful they
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are. I like the first one because the emotion has
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found its thought, and the thought has found its
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form. Okay, what about the first one? No, the first
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one, I commend him. Okay, but he doesn't say
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anything about it; Horace doesn't say anything
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about it. Okay, the second one? This picture, this
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and to teach and delight. To teach and delight. There
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are many people who always, always have a theme,
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have a moral lesson at the end of their poem.
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Could be artificial sometimes, but they usually
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end their poems, you know, like what's that in
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... Tuyor El Janna?
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It's like some people feel that this is childish.
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If you end your poem, your text with a glaring
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moral lesson, treating me as a child. Let me get
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to that conclusion. Let me feel it, experience it,
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metaphorically speaking. Taking life by the
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throat. Because life sometimes doesn't obey us,
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doesn't listen to us. It just goes the way it
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wants to go. Doesn't follow our wishes and hopes.
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So probably in a poem, you can come here.
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Four, please. Poetry is as exact as science, as
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geometry. Okay. French novelist. French, French.
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It's interesting that he's a novelist. I'm not
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sure if he's a poet also. Gustave Flaubert. Poetry
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is as exact as science, as geometry. It's like
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mathematics.
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Is it? No. Five, please.
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So this is not words and expressions, this is a
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step even one or two further: syntax, grammar. Grammar,
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the way you arrange words, the way you put words,
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the fronting, the organization of words, how
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sometimes you break the rules of syntax. We just
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said that. The challenge is to make it do what you
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want it invisibly. Invisibly. You feel that
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there's something here, the poem begins nicely,
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it's so smooth at the beginning, but I can't, I
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don't know how and why. This here is about, this
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class is about trying to understand these, you
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know, invisible impacts. Prophet Muhammad, peace be
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upon him, says that from clarification to magic.
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Sometimes people, they bewitch us, kind of
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literally, sometimes with their rhetoric, with
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their words, with their poetry, with their
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writing, with what they say and how they say it.
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We stand amazed, sometimes even stunned. And
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usually we don't know why. We know this is because
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of the beautiful poetry or stuff they're reading.
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So let's try to dig deeper here and try to make
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connections in order to understand this invisible
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act of dazzling us. Finally?
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Please.
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Unconscious.
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So there's rhythm, the beats, up and down, you
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know, the stress, the music, the internal music.
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Rhythm is the unconscious engine of poetry. This
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is a contemporary poet. I checked, she's still
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alive. Anne Stevenson. I don't know her. And also
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Susan Sontag is also alive. So which one of these
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definitions do you like the most? Or dislike the
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most? Which one? Please. The second one because
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it's emotional. The word can enrich us. So the
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emphasis here on how poetry reaches us, gets to
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us, is something you like. Please.
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Isn't sometimes releasing anger or emotions, isn't
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it sometimes violence?
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Isn't it violent?
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I want you to imagine different situations. Like
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okay, when you're expressing your actions and
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feelings and experiences to your family members,
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teachers, or friends, probably you're peaceful,
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you're calm, you're non-violent. But remember we
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said poetry is a means of resistance. We said
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this. Look at Mahmoud Darwish saying,
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This is violent. And yes, this is some kind of
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incitement, because incitement is sometimes good.
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This is not an invitation for violence, but
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sometimes you need to react to violence by
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violence. Poetry teaches us to do both. Number one
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here, taking life by the throat. I think, I don't
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mean here, I'm not sure what exactly he means, to
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be honest, but poetry helps us make sense out of
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the nonsense around us. We suffocate, we die, we
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suffer, we are humiliated sometimes.
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And when you write a poem, you're just attacking
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back, you're like holding life, controlling life
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and saying, hey, what the hell? Why is this
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happening to me? Why always me? Or why always us?
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So you try to make sense out of this thing.
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Because life is uncontrollable. Does a poem help
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us control life? Probably creating a bitter
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reality?
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I think in a way. I like your different opinions.
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Don't feel bad if you have a different opinion.
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Always say it. I wanted to say that it is like my
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favorite part because it is my favorite definition
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because it's like you're saying that I'm choking
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life and I want it to give me what I want. So I
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want to create my own life. I am in charge, I'm
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the boss. Exactly, yes. So this goes with the
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concept of art makes life. Thank you. I also love
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the trip. I love the second and the third. But I
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still say that sometimes poetry makes us feel warm
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rather than cold because it's the opposite of
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making us feel cold. And I love Robert Frost's
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concept because sometimes poetry is actually
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grasping, grasping the meaning of life and putting
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it on paper. And this is not an easy thing to do.
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You need to struggle with yourself, with life.
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The first, the fourth, and the fifth are so cold
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and narrow definitions, I think. Poetry, to me, is
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more about emotion. It's more about feelings and
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thoughts than science. But can we pick and choose?
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Can we just make the perfect definition of poetry
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selecting and choosing from? Because even when you
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talk about rhythm and meter, they basically go
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under mathematics or geometry. Because things like
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engineering a poem, the rhyme scheme, the beats,
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the feet, the stressed, unstressed, but not in the
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literal meaning. Definitely.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Okay, we'll see. Okay.
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Or, for
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example, for me, I do all kinds of romantic stuff
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because poetry, I think, is just self-expression and
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releasing of inner thoughts. For example, when I
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write anything, I don't even want anyone to read
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it. It's very personal.
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But I think William Wordsworth and the romantics wrote in
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order also to be read, so why would you...? It's
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not criticism; it's not science. You think it's
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criticism? Yeah, because sometimes when you can't
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criticize someone directly, you can write a poem
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to criticize someone indirectly. Because sometimes
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when you criticize someone, there's a punishment,
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there's something after it. So you can do it
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indirectly. That's true. It doesn't have to be
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like criticism of life, saying, "OK, I'm writing a
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poem. Today's pizza was horrible, and the
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cafeteria should be shut down." Today is something.
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It doesn't have to be literally this way. And
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sometimes we read the stupidest poems about the
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stupidest things, but the most beautiful things.
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We'll see some of these poems, poems that could
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sound stupid. Nonsensical. They're deep because
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they're true. They address, they reach us, get to us
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somewhere deeper, please.
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Yeah,
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so somebody here is finding a connection between
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criticizing life and releasing your thoughts.
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Okay.
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I like it when we have very different opinions,
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especially from friends. So I want you, when you
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finish this class, in the break, fight with each
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other, argue, try to convince each other, or try
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to make your point clear. And this is how we have
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fun. We don't have much time, but somebody wants
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to say something that is significant, that if she
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doesn't say it, this course is not what it should
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be. Okay, one line. Yeah, I'm very sure that the
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criticism in Arabic is different from English
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because the criticism in Arabic, we have, like, a
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negative connotation; they criticize
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something, we put the negative aspects that we have in
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something. But also there is constructive criticism. But the
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English connotation here, in English
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sometimes when we criticize things, like we want to say
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something about this. In literature, when we say
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criticism, this is not like saying bad things
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about the text; it's about appreciating it; it's
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about trying to see how it says what it says. But
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again, even in Arabic we still have constructive
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criticism. I like the first one, the criticism of
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life, because it duplicates our life as
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Palestinians. In the recent years, we have seen
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many poets like Mahmoud Darwish, Ahmad Shawqi,
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Fadwa Tuqan, Zoghlul Tuqan, they criticize the
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enemies. They criticize life? Yes, especially
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Israeli enemies through the hidden lines or
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powerful meanings. True, that could be also true.
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We can take this discussion to the Facebook group.
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I'll post these questions and probably we can
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continue this on Facebook. Okay, now I'll tell you
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about an experience writing one of the most famous
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high-casual 20th-century poems by Ezra Pound. Ezra
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Pound is T.S. Eliot's friend. He's an early 20th
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century modernist and poet and critic. He writes
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about his own experience seeing he was somewhere
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in France, in a metro station, and he said he
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suddenly saw a beautiful face. You know, poets
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always see beauty in the midst of tragedy and
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stuff. Or vice versa. And then another. And then
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yet another. And then a beautiful child's face.
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And then another beautiful woman. And he says
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here, "I tried all day to find the words," look at
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the medium here, "to find the words." So the
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emotions, the feelings, are there, and this is
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Ezra Pound. To find any words that seemed to me
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worthy to describe this beautiful scenery. Or as
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lovely as the sudden emotion. He was taken aback,
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like, "Oh my gosh!" You see this all the time. A kid
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does something, you see a rose, a flower, somebody
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does something, an old man, a homeless person does
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something, a taxi driver says something, pizza
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tastes a particular way, and then you're like,
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"This should be in a poem." And this is a poem. He
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said he failed the whole day to try to find the
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right words to express himself, to
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The painting, picture definition can easily, if you
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have the skills, you can easily draw this. So
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trees in fall, when you know, the leaves, the
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branches, the buds fall down. That's the beautiful
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image. You know, the cherry blossom. If you've
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been to America, you've seen this. In Japan,
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fascinating scenery of how trees blossom and
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sometimes when they fall down. But this is the,
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It's actually something from underground going up.
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I don't know why he's doing this, but I love this
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scenery when everything is falling down, falling
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down. One thing, one particular thing is rising
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up, is flying back to its branch. A butterfly. So
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many things are missing here. That you keep, and I
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love this, I love the haikus. I usually go online
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to Twitter and just keep looking up haikus because
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they make me, Wordsworth says in one of his poems,
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"the music in my heart I bore." And this is
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beautiful because you don't bear music. Music is
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abstract. So you bear something. Sometimes you
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feel there is, you know, a burden on your
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shoulders and head and heart because you read
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something, because somebody said something to you.
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So here I, I, I, I like usually high could haunt
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me for, for a lot of time. So he says, okay, there
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is this haiku thing that he knows. And he gives
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another example that, again, I love very much. He
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talks about a guy, I don't know this guy, Viktor
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Plar, tells me that once when he was walking over
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snow with a Japanese naval officer, they came to a
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place, across a place where a cat, imagine the
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scene, it's snowy, it's white all over the place.
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They came to this place where a cat had crossed
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the path. So this is the snow and then there is
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this cat. If you have a cat, probably you'll feel
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this more than anyone else. That's it. If you look
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at it from afar, from a distance, it's beautiful,
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especially with the tiny pose, because it's going
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to sound something like this probably, I don't
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know. And then the Japanese man, and this is what
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I like about this story, he said, "Stop, I am
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making a poem." It's like "Stop, I am being inspired"
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because people who, you mentioned Ahmed Shawqi,
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the Egyptian poet, not the Palestinian poet. Ahmed
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Shawqi had his beautiful way of writing poetry; he
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just gets the inspiration and he stops talking to
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people and he keeps walking to and fro around the
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place and he holds a pen and he writes wherever he
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on his hand, on the pack of cigarettes, he writes
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the poem, the inspiration; if he doesn't write it
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back, probably it's going to, he's going to forget
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it. But this guy says, "Stop, I am making a poem," and
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the act of, because poetry in its root, originally,
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poetry means to make something, to make something,
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to create something, to build up something, to
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construct something. So he says, "Stop, I am making a
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poem." We usually make up a story, we make cake or
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pizza, okay? So, and the poem goes roughly like this:
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Look at this, how easy but difficult at the same
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time. "The footsteps of the cat upon the snow." It's
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usually the second part that surprises us, catches
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us by surprise. Usually these poems don't have the
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linking verb, so it adds more to the poeticality
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of the poem. "Plum blossoms." You know, the plum,
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plums, plums, the plums, they have these trees,
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they have the beautiful flowers when they blossom.
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So the footsteps of the cat upon the snow are like
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plum blossoms. So our friend Ezra Pound said he
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was inspired by these things. Again, he failed. He
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was inspired by it. But look at how Ezra Pound, as
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a Western European guy, how he's appropriating
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Eastern Japanese things. Because if the haiku is
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originally three lines, five syllables, seven
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syllables, and then five syllables, look at how
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he's distorting this and appropriating it,
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changing it. As if saying that, "OK, it's nice,
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but..." There's always a "but." And that's why they would
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be appropriating this. Finally, he wrote the
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famous poem, but he says, "I wrote like months
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later, two months later, I wrote a 30-line poem
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about that particular experience and destroyed it
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because it was what we call our second intensity.
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It's artificial in a sense. It's not what he
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wanted. It's not what he felt. It wasn't genuine.
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Six months later, I made a poem half that length,
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still destroyed it, still second intensity. A year
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later, I made the flowing haiku, one of the most
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famous poems. This is a poem:
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"The apparition," you know apparition? It's like the
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ghost, apparition, ghost.
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"The apparition of these faces in the crowd." Look
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at a year later, the beauty of the faces in that
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particular time and place turned into an
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apparition, probably something spooky, bleak.
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"Petals on a wet, black bough." You know the petals?
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You know, this is, yeah. In Arabic, they say البتلات
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(al-batalat). So this is a petal, this is a petal, this
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is a petal, this is a petal. But look at the
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choice of words. Like if this is, if every petal
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is a human being, it's going to be like "petals on
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a wet," not just wet, also black.
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It's beautiful, but it's also haunting.
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Okay. Okay.
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Don't you think the word "apparition" is key here?
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What does he say? The faces. The anything, the
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pictures of these faces in the crowd. He says
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"apparition."
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They're just a blurry image. But look at this
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experience, like so many things. Imagine writing
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30 lines and then 50 lines and then a year later,
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okay. I want to appropriate Japan and then say
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what I want to say and look cool. I love this
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poem. Can I say something? Can I say first that I
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don't like the haiku at all? It's okay. I can't
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live reading such poems. I can't live reading that
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the poet tried so hard to recollect his thoughts.
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Not necessarily. Sometimes when you are a poet,
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you are a poet. You just keep writing. It depends.
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You're right. You're definitely right. But what is
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challenging about this is the fact that the unsaid
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is a lot more than what he says. There is a lot to
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excavate, the hidden meanings. The stuff
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between... He doesn't even use here the verb. Is
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it "is"? Is it "was"? Will be? So is he talking about
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now, the past, the present? Makes you think. So
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I'll ask you to think about trying to write a
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haiku. Listen, the Japanese haikus, you will love
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them. So just Google "Japanese haikus," famous
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Japanese haikus, and try to read them. You'll feel
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probably, no offense to Ezra Pound. He's a great
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poet. But if you don't like Ezra Pound's haikus,
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probably you can read somebody else's. They're
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beautiful. Again, the challenging thing is that
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you need to put so many things, so many feelings
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and emotions in just two lines. Please.
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Possible, yeah, possible, possible. I like the
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whole concept of Pound, but I think that it goes
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against the idea of spontaneous love that we said
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before, because he spent a whole year just to come
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up with those words. But listen, the same with
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Wordsworth. Wordsworth didn't write his poems
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instantly. Wordsworth also believed that second
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intensity reacting to a particular scene is not
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good, it's not romantic enough. So he would take
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it and do it later. I want to say that when you
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asked us first to write our definitions, I said
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the word "precise" and to that point. In my
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definition, I didn't think that it was very
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significant. But I think that here it fits in
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finding this particular. Okay, thank you. So we
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conclude with Ezra Pound saying, "All poetic
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language is language of exploration." It's like
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kids exploring things. The kid, a one-year-old kid
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would say, "Open the light," right? They don't know
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the proper collocation here, but they would say
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this word, and the word here, "open," is a word of
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exploration. The kid is still exploring. But
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sadly, when we grow up, when we go to school, we
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learn to limit our imagination or something. So
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Ezra Pound is saying here, you need to explore.
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You need to break all these barriers, because
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poetry is basically a metaphor to avoid the
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thoughts that have been already thought out by
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others. The thoughts, if you don't explore, you
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will end up repeating and saying, "Well, I think
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Antara says, هل غادرة الشعراء من متردامي أم هل
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عرفت الدار بعد تراهم؟ Antara, the Arab poet 2000
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years ago, almost 2000 years ago, says that poets
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have said everything I want to say. But why did he
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still write poetry? Because he was exploring and
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the other Arab poet I will mention this later on
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so many times he said, "I'm
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quoting other poets, I am imitating other poets, I'm
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echoing other poets." We repeat; poets repeat each
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other. In order to avoid this, you need to explore
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with image, with, with experiment with imagery, with
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language, everything. Okay, now
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I'll conclude. I expected to do more, but we'll
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see.
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So there are four ways, four phases to approaching
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a poem. One, two, three, like you'll find
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different people saying different things,
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different books, different sources. But I like to
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follow this kind of system. You don't have to
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follow it as, you know, like literally. Number
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one, when you read a poem, try to notice things
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about it. When you have to do a poem to understand
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course, but this is enough. So, the difficult words
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come to class. The next class we'll see, we'll
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study a poem by Tamim Barghouti. I was planning to
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do it today. And a poem by Sir Thomas Wyatt, Whoso
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lists to hunt. Whoso, this is a new word. What
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should you do? Go to the dictionary. Number four, and
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this is where we do our business here. Read
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between the lines. Connect between the form and
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the meaning, and the shape, and the idea, and the
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words. Analyze the sounds. Answer the question,
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why? So what? Why is this repeated? Why does this
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sound like this? Why is the rhyme different,
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regular, irregular? So link the form and the
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meaning. Aim for the implied, for the things
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between the lines. This is close reading, we
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mentioned before. And again, the metaphors, the
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literary devices, and the imagery. What I usually
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do, remember Ali Abunama's poem? We noticed
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things, and then we try to see, read it aloud, and
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then to see what new words, probably, sometimes,
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number three, by the way, sometimes you will not
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be able to understand what the poet means, because
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poets say stuff. Even poets themselves sometimes
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don't know what it means. I never closed the
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newborn desert. I don't know. But this is the
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beauty of, it doesn't mean, I don't know means I'm
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not 100% sure, but I can still guess. I can give
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an idea. We'll see how things go. When we comment
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on a poem, finally, on a text, whatever you do,
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base your opinions and thoughts on the text, on
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ideas, on evidence. I could claim here that there
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could be two types of evidence. Number one,
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textual evidence. The poet repeats the word "nor"
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three times. The poet ends with the same
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rhyme scheme: "I I I I" sound. The poet begins with "I"
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and ends with "I" to support your argument. Okay,
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always do this. In exams, in your discussions, most
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of you forget to do this; this is, to me, more
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important than anything else. Get used to saying,
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"the poet is doing this," "the poem is saying this"
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because, in the text; for example, in the text, it
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goes like this. Number two: evidence based on
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thoughts. Again, going back to Ali Abunama's poem, we
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said, replying to the question whether the speaker
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will change or not, some of you said, "I think he
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is going to change because the very act of writing
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the poem is an act of change." This is evidence
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still, not based on something in the text, based
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on logic, on my understanding of life, thoughts,
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connecting things, connecting the dots. Not
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necessarily. Not necessarily. I usually don't like
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to go to the background or something. So I don't
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want to go and call Ali, what did you do when you
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when you wrote this poem? What did you change in
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your life? I don't care about this. But this is
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because even evidence number two is still
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something around the text, writing the poem
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itself. When you say, for example, "I take this as
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evidence," this is what I'm saying. So if I ask you
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a question in your exam, "Is Ali Ibn Umar going to
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change," give evidence from the text? You could
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say, "I think he's going to change because the very
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act of writing the poem is evidence of change,"
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writing, speaking, releasing the thoughts. Someone
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else might say, "Yes, because in the text he uses the
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word 'regrets,' and 'regrets' is plural. So he's not
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regretting one thing, he's regretting many things."
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In the text he uses the past simple tense: "I never
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felled," and then there were other verbs: "felled,"
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"clothed," "couldn't." The use of the past simple
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tense here indicates this is evidence; textual
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evidence indicates something that happened in the
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past, and there's a promise here that this will
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not happen again. For next class, ladies and gentlemen,
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we're going to examine Tamim El Barghouti's poem,
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part, only just the first part of it. Again, this
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is in Arabic, I know. We'll comment on it in
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English, but we'll study the Arabic text and see
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how everything we said so far can be applied to
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this poem. If you have a question, something to
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say, please go on. to the definition of OG. I
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think that OG is, can always amaze us and attract
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us. It's so hard to touch us deeply until it
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reflects us, until we see ourselves in the oil,
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until we feel like it talks about us. But the pros
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of short stories can easily affect us because the
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author has the chance to explain,
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Okay, so you're saying in poetry you have to have
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this moment of identifying with the text, which is
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a challenge, but in prose, in novels, we find this
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all the time, basically. This is
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for you and about you.
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That's so true. But also, sometimes we still like
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and identify with texts because as human beings we
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identify with people around the world. The
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struggle of Black people in America, the struggle
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of South Africans against apartheid.
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Okay, yeah, I see your point. I see your
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point. Thank you very much. I will stop here and
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see you next time, inshallah.