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Assalamualaikum everyone and as always nice to
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have you back. Today we'll do Augustan poetry and
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we have a surprise because there are two women
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poets today to talk about and at the same time we
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have two of your classmates here doing
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presentations which is always an amazing thing. So
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let's see the presentations and then go back to
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the Augustan age. You can start now, Hind.
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Hello everyone, my name is Hind Dagmosh. Today,
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inshallah, I will be talking about a metaphysical
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boy tree. We can describe metaphysical boy tree as
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a fruit of the Renaissance tree. So, what is the
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metaphysical poetry? Metaphysical poetry is a
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group of poetry emerged in the beginning of the
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17th century whose poetry comes to be known as the
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metaphysical poetry. Metaphysical literally, meta
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means beyond and physics means physical nature.
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Metaphysical concerned with the fundamental
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problems of the nature or replacing life.
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John Donne was the founder of the metaphysical
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poetry. He tried to write poetry in a different
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way, but the name of metaphysical poetry is given
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by Dr. Samuel Johnson for the first time when he
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wrote The Life of Abraham Cowley in his book The
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Lives of Boys, but he used it in a negative sense
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to criticize the poetry of Donne.
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Unusual images. Unusual images makes the poetry
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difficult. Images taken from fields of knowledge,
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science, architecture, geography, history,
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astronomy, chemistry, architecture, geometry,
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mathematics and biology, medical, etc. For
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example, today, The Flea by John Donne. The flea
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marked by this flea and marking this how little
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that which that denies to me is. It sucked me
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first and now sucks thee. And in this flea our two
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blood mangled be. Thou knowest that this cannot be
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said a sin nor shame nor loss of maidenhead.
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This is taken from field of biology.
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This poetry is taken from field of biology and the
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flea is a small insect. The small insect sucks
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blood from human body. This insect used here as a
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theme of the exhibition of love. Oh yeah. To
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conclusion of the flea, the flea uses a conceit as
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a means of flirtation and sexual coercion too. The
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flea metaphor represents denied sensual pleasure.
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Its tiny scale reflects the insignificance of the
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woman's chastity. Its body containing the blood of
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speaker and mistress symbolizes the union between
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the couple.
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of the reason, they perhaps to see how one image
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can be stretched to accommodate a range of
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meanings and association. They show the thrilling
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possibilities of language, but to politic use.
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Thank you, this is my presentation.
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Some of you find the metaphysical poetry
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interesting and intriguing in a way. Maybe I
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disagreed in the description that metaphysical
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poetry is difficult rather than metaphysical
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poetry or even speaking analyzing the word
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metaphysical itself because in our discussion we
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came to the conclusion that metaphysical doesn't
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necessarily mean nothing. It was used just to say
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that those people are bad. The poetry is not about
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metaphysicality generally, it's different. They
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were writing against the current. I was also
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hoping for some commentary on the woman here in
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the text. Generally we said so far the society has
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been anti-feminist where women are presented as
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less weak, less intelligent, unintellectual
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compared to men. Men have more freedom. Is John
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Donne treating the woman in the poem the same?
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That is an interesting question. Someone else can
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probably do a presentation on this. But maybe I
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can tell you that the 20th century greatest
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feminist, Virginia Woolf, she praised John Donne.
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She's the same critic who praised Afra Binn. So if
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a feminist praises John Donne, probably he's doing
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something to empower women, to give them a voice.
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Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, please. Maybe he's
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trying to be different and be with women, not to
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be against women like other poets. And this is
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something new. This is something experimental.
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People were not used to women having a voice.
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Because in this poem, when the poet is telling his
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beloved that you and me and the flea are one in
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this crazy it's in a way similar to the guy who
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told actually we'll study this someone who wants
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to deceive the woman to trick her to take her
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money here in a way he wants to take something
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else but the poet is saying we are the same and
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the woman is not tricked he doesn't deceive her
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because what does she do she kills the flea He
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acts, he takes action exactly. So he's telling her
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because listen when we speak about three we speak
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about trinity you know in christianity so he's
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telling her this is a sacred creature now because
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it has the blood of three it's like jesus christ
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god and everything she's like She kills the flame.
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This simply, an act of action. The woman might not
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speak here, but she takes action. She does the
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most significant thing in the poem. And this is
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generally what a woman does in Jonda. Next, we
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have Hanin with another presentation. Hello
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everyone. My name is Hanin. Today I will talk
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about satire. So firstly, what is satire?
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Satire is a technique employed by writers to
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criticize corruption, to satirize corruption of an
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individual or a society.
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Satirical writing is usually funny. So the main
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purpose of satire is not to humor, but to
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criticize corruption. There are four techniques to
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produce satire. The first one is reversal. When
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normal rules or order are reversed. The second one
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is parody. Parody is humorous and exaggerated
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imitation. The third one is incongruity. is
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something that seems out of place or out of
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character. The last one is exaggeration. It's
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giving an impression that something is greater or
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larger than it really is. So using humor is more
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effective than if you want to say this is wrong.
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But if you use humor, this is something will be
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more effective than if you say this is wrong.
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So this is an extract by John Wilmot. Who can read
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it? I'd be a dog, a monkey, a bear, or anything
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but that vain animal who is so proud of being
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rational. Yes. This is a satire in general. Satire
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in general by John Wilmot. And the second one
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is... Who can read it? Yes. Lots true or false are
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necessary things to raise up commonwealth's
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enduring kings. This is an extract by Dryden and
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this one is more specific than the first one.
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The last one is, but who can read?
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This extract
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to satire someone who called Shadwell. Shadwell,
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Dryden describes Shadwell as the master, as the
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master of dullness, as the master of dullness. And
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this is extract, this is setire, personal setire.
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This is personal setire. And this was our lesson
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about setire. Thank you.
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Thank you. When you do presentations, can you try
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to bring texts from outside the course so we can
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learn extra things? This is the one significant
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thing about the presentation. So we want to see
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what you do with extra texts, with texts from
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outside the course. Okay, so it would be a lot
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better, but this is really interesting. I like
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that you like satire and you also mentioned Parody
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and stuff we talked about in a bit. So let's go
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back to our class The
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Augustan Age is actually generally named the
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Augustan Age because followed by major critics
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like Samuel Johnson and Alexander Poe. But before
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I speak about Augustin Poetry, Alexander Poe, Mary
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Montague, and Mary Liver, I want to say something
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about parody. We spoke about
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And most, even when Hanin mentioned parodies, she
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said some humorous exaggerated imitation. When you
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open most dictionaries, they will always mention
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the word comic or humorous or funny, a funny
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imitation of something, a funny representation of
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something that already existed, whether it is a
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person or a book.
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I believe that this is not accurate. This is not
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100% what parody does. Again, look at me. Why are
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you turning the pages? Is there something? Okay,
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so today, again, before I go to Augustine Poetry,
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I want to say something about parody. And I have
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to say it again, pay attention to this. Generally,
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most books tell you that parody is funny, comic,
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humorous imitation of something. Yes, parody
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imitates, because the word parody means to copy or
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to imitate. Now, is it always funny? Is it always
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humorous? Is it always less serious? This is my
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point now. I think no, it's not because sometimes
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it can hurt people's feelings if you're making fun
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of them. Is it only about hurting feelings? No, I
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could say that. But there is one thing. It's about
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criticism. In my opinion, parody is about change.
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Why would I parody somebody? Because yes, I want
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to make fun of them. But sometimes I don't want to
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make fun of them. It's not funny. Sometimes it's
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tragic. So I want to criticize them to show their
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weaknesses, to show their vices, to show their
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corruption by imitating them in a way that makes
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people pay attention. My point is
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If this is like the English canon, you know the
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English canon, the bulk of the most important,
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most anthologized literary works, where the
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mainstream critics and writers reside most of the
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time. So if this is the canon, This is the bubble,
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this is the core. Some people live here in the
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margin, you know, the margin. Some people are
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marginalized. They are known, they're famous, but
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they're usually not mentioned and studied and
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researched. They're pushed by critics to the
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margins of the society, of the canon. But some
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poets, we say, were kicked even outside. They're
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not in the margin, or on the margin. They are
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here. outside. We mentioned Dunford for example.
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Johnson criticized him. 50 years later Dryden
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criticized him. Almost a hundred years later
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Johnson criticized him. And then what? Even after
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his death many people were threatened by people
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who would write differently. Afrabin was also
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considered to be of less importance. And marrying
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manly also was considered scandalous and
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objectionable and controversial in many ways. So
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people here, outside the canon, sometimes want to
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challenge, right? To engage in dialogue.
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to engage in dialogue. Sometimes they want to
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defy. Sometimes they want to criticize. Sometimes
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they want to subvert. You know what subvert is?
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When you subvert somebody's authority, you shake
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somebody's authority. So the king, remember the
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king is the king, the most important, God's
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representative on earth. If you parody the king,
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it's as if you're telling people that the king is
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an ordinary person. He can be criticized. To shake
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his place. He can be ridiculed. To shake the idea.
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Because people think that the king, the president,
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is a person fearful. Untouchable. Untouchable. You
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can't touch him. You can't criticize him. When you
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parody him, it's like you're telling people that
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he's an ordinary person. He's a human being. I can
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talk about him in a particular way. In order to do
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this, those people outside the canon, they usually
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resort to parody. parody, metafiction,
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metatextuality sometimes. And we've seen this in
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John Donne. Come live with me and be my love. And
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we will some new pleasures grow. So if ordinary
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people would be, you know, the idealism of the
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Elizabethan age, all the pleasures, and we have a
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new poet who says some new pleasure. Okay, why
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some? Because all is wrong, not realistic. And
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you, I want to see what. So he's shaking the world
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of the Elizabethan courtly love. This is what John
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Donne is doing. So when those people use parody,
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who usually does the criticism? The male critics,
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people in the canon, people who create the canon.
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So are they going to be happy with the parody?
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They're not. Are they going to be happy with the
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parody? They are not. So for them, for Samuel
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Johnson, parody is not serious. It's called, I
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think, I'm not sure what exactly he says, but he
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says that parody is less serious, less important
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art than the original text. And it's interesting
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how Johnson also hates puns. Remember we spoke
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about puns? A word with two meanings or sounds. A
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pun is a play on words, when you play with words.
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words because they want us to follow the
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definitions in the dictionary. But always there
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have always been poets who wanted to do things
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differently. Samuel Johnson, by the way, didn't
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like Tristram Shandy. And he also didn't like John
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Donne. And he also didn't like... So why? Because
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they believed in the rules of the Quran. In
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following particular rules in order to write what
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they call a great book. So you mean that the
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people who are kicked out of the canon are turning
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to As a tool to criticize these people. So how are
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these people going to define parody? Favorably or
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unfavorably? Unfavorably. Unfavorably. So even the
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dictionary said, yeah, there is fun, there is
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humor in parody. But not always. When you read,
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come live with me and be my love, and we will some
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new pleasures. We don't laugh. It's not funny. We
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don't kick it. There's no joke here. But Jonathan
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attracts our attention, grabs our attention to the
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fact that there is another world different from
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the world, the idealistic world of Christopher
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Marlowe, another more realistic world, so to
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speak. So going back here today to Augustine
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poetry, we have again three poets. Alexander Pope,
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Mary Montague, and Mary Liver. One man, two women.
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And these are the first women poets to study. And
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this is the 18th century. And that's very
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interesting. Because in Arabic tradition and
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culture, we have poets as far as I think 2,000, 1
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,500 years ago. Khan Sawa was a famous Arab
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poet. Female Arab poet. Is there something wrong
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with women? Are women unable to write poetry or to
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write? No. Definitely not. Definitely not. There's
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something wrong with the way the society deals
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with women, frames women, and marginalizes women.
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So Alexander Poe is one of the neoclassicist
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critics and poets. Before I speak a little bit
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about him, Here is one of his famous heroic
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couplets, couplets from, I think, an essay on
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criticism. He's speaking about poetry, about
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criticism, about poetry writing. And he says,
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those rules, the rules of writing, classification,
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of all discovered, not devised. So he's defending
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the rules of Decora. You know Horus and Custas are
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nature, so those
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They are nature still, but nature methodized,
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systematized, organized. This is something like
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the likes of John Donne would disagree with
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because he's saying, this is strange, the rules of
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poetry were not invented by anybody. We found them
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out there in nature exactly like we find a planet
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or some stars or some galaxies out there or some
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new species or birds or some type of fish.
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And this is, again, very interesting, because for
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them, they actually have a point here. It doesn't
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mean their poetry sucks, or they're bad, or no,
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no. According to those people, the greatest poetry
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was written centuries ago, when man was not
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corrupted, when man didn't go even to university,
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was not taught to write poetry. Some people now go
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to study Arabic or English to be able to write
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poetry, right? But those people didn't learn
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poetry from anybody. In a way, they were inspired.
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For those critics, this inspiration could be from
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nature or from God. So God teaches you how to
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write poetry, and nature teaches you how to write
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poetry. When you look at nature, you find
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everything symmetrical, everything organized. Look
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at the palm tree, for example. Look at the trees
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or things of the birds. Look at them, how they are
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shaped and will, in a way, symmetrical. You know
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what's symmetrical? Everything is balanced.
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Everything is organized. So the rules of writing,
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like a particular line, some feet, some syllabus,
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like 10 syllabus, 10 syllabus, 10 syllabus,
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they're generally taken from where? Inspired from
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nature. So they are not devised by anybody. They
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were discovered from If you count the syllables
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here, you'll find it. I think I can bring you a
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thousand lines by Alexander Papanol. Will be five
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feet, five feet, five feet, five feet. Strict
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about following. And this is a couplet. Why is
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this a couplet? When we speak about Alexander
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Pope, we usually speak about the heroic couplet.
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And a heroic couplet is basically a couplet. Like
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when you define a paragraph, you're studying
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writing now. A paragraph is a group of related
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sentences about one idea. So a couplet is two
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rhyming lines, ten syllables, one idea. Ten
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syllables or five feet. One idea. So Alexander
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Pope was one of the major poets who followed the
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rules of the Quran. They were adopted
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whose name is Horus. Also Horus did not invent the
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rules. studied poetry and came up with the rules
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of poetry, poetry writing. Were the rules
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different from the other rules? The old rules? You
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know, we took that the other, the old rules of the
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Qur'an were similar. Dryden, Samuel Johnson,
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Alexander Pomondosov were inspired by Horace, who
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was those poems, so they were imitating. Many of
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us people believe good poetry is good imitation,
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to imitate nature, because nature has everything
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there for us. Something that John Donne, for
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example, didn't like, and he wanted to change it.
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And he wrote several poems, you'll see two or
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three of them. One interesting poem by Alexander
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Pov is called And he say on man, you know he say,
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you write an essay, yeah an article, and he say
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it's generally prose. But he was fascinated with
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poetry, obsessed with poetry, that this is not
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prose, this is poetry, this is verse. Be careful.
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This could be a new exam. So if I tell you, a
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little learning is a dangerous thing, drink deep
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or taste not, the Pyrenean spring is a couplet, a
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heroic couplet by Alexander Pope from his article
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and essay on criticism. Everything is fine with
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the sentence, except the fact that this is not an
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article. It's a poem. So don't be tricked by the
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name. So what does he say here? He teaches poets.
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He preaches his ideology and what poetry should be
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about. Remember, for the rules of the Quran,
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literature has to teach and delight. When you read
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a poem, you have to learn something new, a wisdom,
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a moral lesson. So a little learning It's a
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dangerous thing. Have you ever heard of this
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before? Yeah. It's an English proverb, by the way.
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Yes. It's a wisdom. A little knowledge is a
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dangerous thing. Yes. If you know a little thing,
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if you read only, you know, we have this type of
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people all the time. People who read two books and
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they think they are knowledgeable and will read.
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Or people who read, like, the introductions to a
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hundred pages and hope they will be So he's
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criticizing those people. He's saying a little
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learning is a dangerous thing. You either learn a
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lot or better not to learn. Because if you don't
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learn, generally you might admit that you are
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uneducated, illiterate. But if you read two books
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and you think you are a poet or a writer or a
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political analyst, your analysis and everything
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might not be good or something. So what is his
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advice? Drink deep or taste not the Pyrene spring.
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You know what does spring mean?
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Pyrene is, I'll explain it, but what does spring
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mean? The full knowledge? No, don't read what is
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written in the book. It's not correct. Maybe the
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full knowledge? Spring, the word spring. Like
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spring, like summer and spring?
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Taste not. Drink deep or taste not. That's spring.
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Spring is a place where water flows.
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No. Spring.
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There's something called hot springs where hot
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water springs from the spring. So either you, the
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Perian spring is a metaphor for the spring of
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knowledge, education and everything. So you have
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two choices. You either drink deep, study hard,
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become an expert, or don't try. This is the idea.
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This is the advice. It's like I usually say this
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to my students. When you study English, you have
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to work very hard. If you finish four years of
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studying English and your English is still bad,
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it's really sad. So study hard. Drink deep from
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the Pyrene spring. And look at the perfect rhyme,
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the couplet. If you count this, 10 syllables, 10
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syllables, five feet, five feet. Pop was very
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famous for satire also. Many people wrote satire
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in the Yugoslavia. And like his friend Dryden, he
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criticized his poetic writer. Two texts here I was
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examining today. Number one is Don Siegert. Yeah,
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Don Siegert.
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Just one little thing about Don Siegert.
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in which he criticizes his friend, his literary
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rival. It's the same. In this poem, there is
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satire and attack on the dullness of his literary
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rivals. But remember, it doesn't necessarily mean
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that his rivals are bad or dull. It means that
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Alexander Pope does not like them. Because he said
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the craziest thing about John Donne. He has no
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imagination. Yeah. And even like John Donne was
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criticized by Johnson, by Dryden, by Samuel
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Johnson. Everyone agreed that John Donne has this
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weird, crazy imagination. He's a witty poet. And
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Alexander Poe was like, no. He doesn't even have
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an imagination. He's not imaginative. Is he
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correct? Is he right? I don't think so. So don't
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take everything for granted. Think for yourself.
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His most famous work here is The Rape of the Lock.
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We spoke about rape in the past, but rape here
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means stealing something. We speak about the rape
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of Palestine, how Palestine was stolen, was
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occupied by. Lock is a lock of hair. A lock of
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hair, yeah. The Rape of the Log is a mock-epic
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satire. You know what an epic poem is, remember?
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Bewolf, about heroes, battles, heroism, like
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Bewolf, always very long, about serious issues in
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the community. But in this poem, very long poem,
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I'm not sure how many lines, but it's very long,
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Alexander Pope is criticizing the trivial things
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of the society. In which like in Arabic culture we
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have Dahis or Ghabrar where there was like a 40
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year battle over you know two camels, was it two
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camels or two horses or something. In this story
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someone cuts a little girl's lock of hair and then
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all hell breaks loose. They start fighting and
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fighting and fighting. So what is he criticizing
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in the reign of the log? He's criticizing the
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trivial things in the society, this fake self
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-importance. how people pretend to be brave, but
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in reality, they are all only fighting about
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trivial things. There are no heroes in this age.
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There are no battles in this age. It's all fake,
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like Dryden said some probably 50 years or 60, 70
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years earlier. Okay? That's the name of the book.
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So what is a mock epic? What is an epic? A long
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poem about heroism.
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An epic about a trivial thing. It's an epic, it's
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a long poem that mocks, mocks means to mock
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something, to make fun of something. But there's
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also this when you do an exam, when you don't do
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the original, like sometimes you have to do a
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trial exam. It's called mock exam. Yes, mock test.
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So a mock epic, it's epic, but it's not an epic.
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Because you have like 1,000 lines, but what is it
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about? It's someone praising his mouse device. Or
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someone fighting, killing many people because they
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stole his marker, or about a trivial thing. We
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have this. In Gaza here, we have a lot of people
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who would fight and do horrible things only
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because someone It's something trivial and stupid.
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And that's a talent. This is an interesting poem
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to read about. Let's move to the more interesting
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poems, or poets of today. Number one is Mary
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Lacey. Actually, she's a lady. She was the wife
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of, I think, the British ambassador to Germany.
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Her name is Mary Montagio.
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So we have Aphra Behn, very manly, and now very
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muhtakim. She was also a satirist. She was also a
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poet. It is said here, it says in the book that
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she was a friend of Pope, but later on she became
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his enemy. I don't know why. It sounds
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interesting. But it's also interesting that
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Alexander Pope is a friend of the wife of the
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ambassador. So this is generally what poets did in
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this age. They wanted to be close to the
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royalties, to the court, to the people in power.
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In one of her poems in Aladdin, she told of that
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satire should like a polished razor key. What's a
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razor? When men shave their beard, so they use
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razors, like razor, like very sharp, like a sharp
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knife. Like a razor keen, like sharp. Satire
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should be sharp like a razor. This is called a
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simile. Using as or like. It's a metaphor, but it
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uses like or as. Satire is like a razor. Want is a
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verb here. It wants, it should want. It wants with
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a touch that is scarcely felt or seen. That is
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scarce. It's barely. You don't feel it. You
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shouldn't feel it. In a way, she is saying that
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satire has to be subtle and indirect. Implicit. If
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you read it, you don't think, is she criticizing
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me or what is she saying here? And this is
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something that comes from a woman. In a way, if
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you read this text, if I didn't tell you this was
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written by a woman, you can't tell. Can you tell
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this was written by a woman? No. She didn't use
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words. No. Which proves the idea that women can
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write poetry like men exactly. There was this
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novelist 10 years ago who said, I read the first
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paragraph in a novel and I can't tell whether the
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writer is a woman or a man. And there was an
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uproar. Everyone's like, what? Come on. There are
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similarities. There are differences. But if you
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say women don't write as good as well as women,
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that's not true. Everyone has his or her own way
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and style. And finally today, Another Mary. So
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three Marys and one apple. Mary, leper or leaper.
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Was also a famous poet who sadly sadly died at the
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age of 24. How did she become famous? Because yeah
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she still became famous for some time. Maybe she
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became famous after her death? Generally yes.
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Generally yes. Her poems were published post
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-Muslim. This is a good word to know. You know
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post means after, post exam, post test, after. Pre
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-reading, post-reading. Posthumously, like John
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Donne. His poetry was mostly published after his
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death. You can say after his death or her death.
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But when you use the word posthumously, you sound
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like a sophisticated person who knows big words.
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I'm knowledgeable. Yeah?
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Listen, the book says she was influenced by Bob.
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And my question is, do you agree or do you
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disagree? She was influenced by, the book says,
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Mary Lippard was influenced by Alexander Pope. I
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want you to read this stanza extracted from a poem
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by Mary Lippard and tell me whether you see
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similarities or see influence by Alexander Pope or
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not. I'll give you one minute.
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a form, a theme.
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The speaker is a man by the way, but the author,
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the poet is a woman.
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Can you
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read someone?
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Now, ma'am, as the chat goes round,
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I hear you have ten thousand pounds, but that as I
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try to hold, give me your person, then you go, yet
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for your own sake, secured,
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I hope your house is too insured. Insured.
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Insured. Yeah. Someone else? Back, at the back.
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Okay. Now, madam, as a ... Can you raise your
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voice? Speak up. Now, madam, as a child goes back,
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I dream you have three thousand pounds, but then
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as I step on your house, give me your best and
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then you will go home. Is this for your sake? Safe
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and secured? Secured. I hope your house is secure.
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Houses to insure. Someone here, loudly, raise your
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voice please. Now madam, as the chat goes round, I
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hear you have ten thousand pounds, but that as I
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truffle gold, give me your person, then your gold,
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yet for your own sake it is secured, I hope your
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house is to insure. What do you think? The speaker
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is a man talking to a woman. What is he telling
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her? I think he's trying to deceive her. He's
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saying in the second line, I hear you have 10,000
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pounds, and then he's saying to her, give me your
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person. He's trying to own her. To own her. Oh,
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what an interesting reading. Very good reading. So
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there is a man trying to trick a woman to tell
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her, give me your money. And he's blunt, he's
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vulgar. He's not even trying to hide his deceit.
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He's openly talking to her thinking that a woman
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is not smart. So, now madam, as the chat goes
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around, I hear you have two thousand now. Meaning,
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figures, huh? Like a lot of money. You're hiding a
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lot of money. You're rich. But I as a trifle hold,
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give me your person because a woman generally was
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treated as an object, something to own. Give me
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your person, then you're gone. Yet for you, it's
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not for me. I don't want the money. I want you
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weak. You can't protect yourself. Maybe people
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will deceive you, trick you. Give me the money.
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I'll hide it for you. It's like mothers when they
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give you the idea. How much money have you given
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your mom so far? A lot. Where is this money? It's
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gone. So it's for your sake. It's secured. I'll
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secure it for you. I don't want it. I want to
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protect you. A woman can't live without a man's
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protection. I hold your houses to ensure you have
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houses and that they are insured or I can take
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them to make sure that they are safe. This is
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again satire from a woman to not only to one man
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but also to men in general and how they treat
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women, how they think women are not smart, are not
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intelligent, but that they always need a man to
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protect them, to save them, to make that
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everything they have is secure. The theme is women
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being smart and powerful. She's giving voice to
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women like Afrobin. She's empowering women like
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Mary Manley. She's insisting that women are as
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smart as men and even smarter. So the theme is
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different from Alexander Poe. So this is a woman
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writing for women about women issues. Do we have
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the heroic couplet here? Grammatically speaking,
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this is pounds. Thousand pounds. A poetic license
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for the rhyme.
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Is it
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a heroic couplet? Do we have five feet? Four?
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not following, if she is influenced by Alexander
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Pope, she's not following him one hundred percent.
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What is the conclusion here? Women have always
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written excellent literature. If they were
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published later on, it wasn't their fault. There
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must have been poets earlier, probably during
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Shakespeare, after, even before, a thousand years.
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But usually, the society would ignore them, would
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neglect them. One, because they are women. Two,
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because generally women, like we've seen here, are
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harsh criticals of and male superiority. So here,
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generally when you speak about the woman, how they
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explore new ideas, how they centralize and
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criticize and attack men all the time, and most
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importantly, how they would usually be critical of
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male superiority, fake male superiority in the
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society. And perhaps that's a good logic. That is
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one reason why Not because they were writing bad
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poetry, not because they're not good poets, but
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because the main critics ignored them altogether
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for their critical poetry. Please. I want to add a
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00:43:15,410 --> 00:43:18,590
comment. You said that in Old English mainly most
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poets were religious or heroic because they wrote
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them. The monks chose to write them. So we can say
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that Women wrote poetry for a long time but they
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did not practice or did not have it now? Yeah,
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probably yes. They didn't want to show it to their
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parents or family or anybody because remember
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during 16 women were not allowed to perform on
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stage. That's why we speak later on at the end of
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this course about Virginia Woolf, the feminist
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critic who said, a woman has to have dependence on
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herself, a room of one's own. There's an article
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called A Room of One's Own. It could be stupid,
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the idea, but she says you have to have your own
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freedom and privacy and independence. If you have
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your own room, If you share a room with your
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brothers or sisters, sometimes you're going to
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hide your talents. If you write poetry, you're
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going to hide it. Because if somebody sees it,
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it's going, ah, fine. She writes poetry. She
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thinks she's a poet. And then they're going to
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destroy you for life. But if you have your own
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room, which symbolizes freedom and independence
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and privacy, you can do the talents you like. You
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can grow, you can develop. I'll stop here and if
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you have any question, you're free to ask. And
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after this, by the way, we're going to start the
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Romantic Age. We're going to jump to the Romantic
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Age.