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Assalamualaikum and good morning from Gaza. This

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is English poetry at the Islamic University of

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Gaza. Today we move to do something perhaps a

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little bit different from neoclassicism. But don't

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be mistaken, this is not that much different from

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metaphysical poetry or the poetry of John Donne.

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Unfortunately, when we read many English

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literature books, English poetry books, they will

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tell you that The real modernist movement started

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with the romantic poets, with the likes of William

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Blake, Wordsworth, and Coleridge. This is true to

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some extent, but sadly this erases the likes of

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John Donne, who themselves were practicing this

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probably 100 years before the romantics. We've

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seen how John Donne categorically refused the

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rules of decorum, how he put meaning over rule,

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how he didn't like the collective idealistic

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poetry of the Elizabethan age. But with the

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Romantics, we speak about totally, also in a way,

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totally different poets and their sensibility and

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their approach to individualism and the universe

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nature. If I want to draw a timeline, a random

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timeline, of neoclassicism, I usually claim that

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this is where perhaps John Donne was writing

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poetry. He was writing poetry during the heyday,

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the peak of neoclassicism. when people, the giants

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like Samuel Johnson and later on, the great names

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50 years later, 100 years later, like Ben Johnson,

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Samuel Johnson and John Dryden and Alexander Pope

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later on, were dominating the scene. For John

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Donne, it was swimming not against one current,

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but swimming against currents of giants, people

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who were already loved, who were writing some of

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the greatest literature, poetry in English. So it

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wasn't easy for him. And that's why this is the

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reason why he took to a great extent was

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negatively framed, like we explained before.

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largely kicked out of the English canon, was not

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taken seriously by money. If I want to talk about

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romanticism, probably this is where they were

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writing, when neoclassicism was already in

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decline, and people have already had enough of the

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same poetry being written in the same way,

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following the same rules, you know, rules of

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decorum, the subject matter, and the form, and the

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language, et cetera. I'm not saying that the

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romantics, I'm not suggesting that the romantics

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had it easy, they didn't, because most of the

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romantics you will be surprised to know that they

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were not famous during their lifetimes. Again,

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there is this connection between them and

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unlimited physicals. The four great romantics,

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probably except for Chile, almost all of them were

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not famous, were not taken sometimes seriously by

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their time. We'll see this as we go. Today, we

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begin with the one and only William Blake. William

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Blake wrote some of the most beautiful poetry in

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English. Many people like to classify him as a

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different poet, a poet of his own, in his own

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world. But others like to consider him as a pre

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-romantic, somebody who started, who pioneered

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this, who ushered this, and who influenced

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Wordsworth and Coleridge. So whether he is a

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romantic or a pre-romantic, it's not a big issue

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for us, but we'll find so many similarities

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between him and Wordsworth and some other romantic

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poets, like even Schiele and Keats. Now, I don't

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want to speak much about him. I don't want to give

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you the background and the context. Let's see his

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poetry and then try to draw some conclusions or

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come up with the features that we might find in

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his poetry. This is a small short poem by William

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Blake. Again, you already studied this perhaps or

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read it before. Small, short, beautiful, cute,

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crunchy poem. It's just eight lines, not only

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eight lines. Is it the shortest poem so far this

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course? Perhaps yes, but also look at the lines.

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Even short lines, probably if you count the

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syllables, you'll come across like five syllables,

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which is half the syllables we had in the sonnet

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and other poems. So this says, The sick rose, O

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rose, thou art sick. The invisible worm that flies

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in the night in the howling storm has found out

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thy bed of crimson joy. and his dark secret love

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does thy life destroy. Somebody read, please.

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The aurora of the Arctic, the visible worm that

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flies its line in the howling storm. Howling

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storm. The howling storm has found out thy bed of

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crimson joy, and his dark secret love does thy

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life destroy. Thank you very much.

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Can you focus on the tone? How would you? Is this

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a celebratory poem? Is it sad, dark, happy,

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optimistic, pessimistic? Can you capture this in

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the way you read?

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Okay. So how would you, would you read it? Would

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you read it with this tone in mind?

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Okay. Thank you

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very much. Very good.

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thank you very much, very good readings. Now, if

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this is a short story, a narrative, what type of

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narrator do we have here? First person, are you

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sure?

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That's not what a first person narrator is. First

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person narrator is It's the I. So there's no I

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like shall I compare thee come live with me and

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most poetry we studied already is a first person

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narrator whether it is a personal experience like

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John Donne or a collective personal experience

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like the likes of Shakespeare for example. So

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there is yes you and your but basically this is a

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poem that talks about something in the third

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person pronoun.

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making it a third-person pronoun narrative. So the

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character is talking to somebody, true, there's

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some kind of dialogue with the other being silent,

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but also the persona, the speaker here, who is not

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a character in this text, unlike like in

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Shakespeare, shall I compare thee, the speaker is

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a character of the poem. Here, the speaker is not,

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is basically an outsider of the poem. And the

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second question I want to ask is, who are the

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characters here? Who are the characters? Okay,

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please, okay. Okay, you're saying arrows, like

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this,

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Like what? Arrows?

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Or rows? Or the rows? Or the rows? Would it make a

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difference?

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In the title it says, I'm not sure if this is the

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exact title, it says the thick rows, particular

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thick rows, but the first line says all rows with

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a capital R.

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So if you're saying rose, somebody said rose, this

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is a name, somebody's name, right?

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The rose with a capital here could, a rose, also a

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rose is possible, could be, you say for example,

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grammatically speaking, you say a Mr. Smith is

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waiting for you. So somebody whose name is Mr.

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Smith and you don't know this man before. The Mr.

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Smith, like he's a man and the one and only in a

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way. So this is the main character and the worm,

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are you sure? And so okay, we have the worm. The

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speaker. The speaker is usually in a narrative, if

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it is a third person narrator, we don't count the

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narrator as one of the characters most often. So,

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the worm and the rose. That's very good. What

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about the timing? The setting? Before we come to

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talk more about this, what about the setting? The

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setting, sorry. It's taking place at

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night, in the night.

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What's happening during this night? A howling

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storm. So probably this is winter, right? Because

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there is a storm that is not only a storm, but a

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howling storm. Look at the choice of word here. In

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a way, this is onomatopoeic. Howling. The sound

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that's like a sound a storm could make in a poem,

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if not in real life. So a howling storm, it's

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dark, stormy, and the storm is very strong. Wind

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could be heard through the howling storm.

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Okay, what else is there in the poem?

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What else do you notice? Like other than this, the

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place, the time, the setting?

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It is in the present time. Are you sure? Yes.

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Where is the main tense? Grammatically speaking,

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what sentence is it? How many sentences do we have

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here? Two. Two? Where are they? First stanza or

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first line? First line. First stanza is one

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sentence? No, first line. Because here it says, Oh

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Rose Dawatik, the invisible worm that flies in the

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night in the howling storm. Still a dependent

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clause. Dependent clause because we have the

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subject, we have the adjectival clause. So the

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first please. Two sentences. Where are they? The

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first line is a sentence. Okay. And then there's.

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This is one whole sentence? Three sentences. Three

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sentences, are you sure? Yeah. What is a sentence?

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We have a verb and a sentence.

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Are you sure? What is a sentence?

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But this

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is a comma, Raf. But this is a comma. A sentence

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is a group of words with at least one main clause.

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A group of words that begin with a capital letter

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and end with a false stop. A falsopora question

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mark sometimes or an exclamation mark like in this

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case. So this is one sentence, one simple

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sentence. Oh Rose, thou art sick. You are sick.

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You are sick. And I really can't understand

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exactly what, like imagine the situation here

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clearly, like is he talking to the rose? Is the

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speaker, what is the speaker? Is the speaker, like

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because here we have a few saying arrows, And a

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worm, or the worm, it's the here, right? So is the

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speaker what? A bird? A tree? Or is it a human

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being? Like observing and saying, does the rose

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know she is sick? Is this warning? And of course,

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this is not sick like you're disgusting, you're

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doing something horrible, and then you're sick.

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This is your pity, oh, you're sick.

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Okay, we'll come to that. So the invisible worm

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That's the subject, the worm is the subject, it's

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described as invisible The witch flies in the

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night, that flies in the night This is adjectival

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clause, but here we have a prepositional phrase

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Yet another prepositional phrase, in the howling

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storm The verb is has found out object thy bed

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Another prepositional phrase, of crimson joy And

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then we have another independent clause So this is

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a complex sentence and this is a compound

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sentence, making it compound complex sentence plus

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one simple sentence. It's two sentences. And I

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like this. Remember with Shakespeare we said every

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line is basically one statement. John Donne

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changed this. where the line could go on for

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three, four, five sentences and it would jump from

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one stanza to the other. The poem in its totality

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makes its meaning rather than every line making

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just one statement. Again, these are different

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styles, doesn't mean this is better than that. But

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this one keeps you busy throughout the whole poem,

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okay? It doesn't cut your train of thought.

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Okay, so we agree that this is one simple sentence

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and then one compound complex, it gets

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complicated, it's the sentence that you say but

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everything else gets complicated because things

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get inside others. I like how the worm is

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described and yet described again with a phrase

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and another phrase and then the verb and then the

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object and then another prepositional phrase,

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things get inside each other. Interesting, what

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else do you notice? Other things about the poem?

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What do you find interesting, different,

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intriguing? Okay, okay, I'll go to the jump, I'll

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jump to the rhyme scheme. There is sick, a, are

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you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure? Should it be

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a? This is the kah sound.

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It's always A? Okay, good. Always A. And then

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worm, B. And then night, C. And storm, possibly

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another B. Not one hundred percent, but still. Now

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I know, like I told you before that people would

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continue with A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, but I like

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doing it differently where we go back to the

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alphabet with every new stanza because sometimes

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you have long poems and then you run out of

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letters and then what should I do next? Different

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scenarios, okay? So go back again to the rhyme

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scheme. We have here A,

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B? C? Are you sure?

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Joy. Joy. Joy. Joy. Joy. Joy. Joy. Joy. Joy. Joy.

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Okay, so rhyme scheme is perfect. What else do you

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notice? Please. Thank you very much. Look at the

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simple words. I'm not sure which word you checked

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using, you used the dictionary to check to

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understand. How many words did you check?

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Honestly, those of you who looked at the report.

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That's the word crimson. Okay, and? Howling, even

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if you don't know what howling is, you can always

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guess because usually we don't say a calm storm,

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usually a storm is windy,

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stormy, strong, powerful, so howling storm and

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then crimson possibly Again, you're not a native

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speaker, so if you don't know one or two words,

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that's still a good achievement, but it means that

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this man is using simple language. Simplicity of

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language. Remember the neoclassicists who would

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always every couple of lines they would send you

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rushing to the dictionary checking the meaning and

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even going googling stuff to understand what he

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means by these references and these allusions and

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translating this Latin and translating this Greek

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and understanding why he's intertexting with

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Horace and everything. You come to the poem and

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you stay for the poem. Unlike the NAE classes

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where usually you come for the poem and then you

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rush out to dictionaries and internet and then you

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come back and go on and on. Simple language.

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That's very good. Very good thing to notice.

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Please. The number of syllables are not the same

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in English.

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Okay, I'll come to this, but again, let's move

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gradually, Rosanne. What about the words, the

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choice of words? Tell me this word is interesting,

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for example, or that word, this phrase is

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interesting. What things do you find interesting?

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We'll come to symbolism, like again it's always

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better to work gradually, look at the poem, notice

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the shape and the form and then look at individual

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words, so what does every individual word inspire

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in you or what does it connote? And then you go

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for, for example, reading the poem, trying to

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understand. We'll do this. We try to link

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everything to a possible reading the poem. Is

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there one word or one phrase you find interesting,

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like we did with, for example, here, the howling

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storm or other words? He's giving a bad image

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about what we already know. Again, my question is

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one particular word, one particular phrase. We're

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not going to comment on the meaning now. We're

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working step by step.

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A worm is beautiful? Do you like worms?

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Worms? Ah, that's because you're reading it warm.

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It's not warm. And it's a character. It's a thing.

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It's a creature. So is worm good or bad? Positive

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or negative? It's what makes the rose sick. Thank

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you. At least it is, even if worm is good, it is

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what is making the rose sick. And the worm is

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described as? Invisible. That's a very good word.

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So it's not only dark and winter and cold and

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stormy and howling. This creature, the cause of

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this sickness, is working invisibly. It's not,

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it's invisible. What does it mean invisible?

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Because it's like, is the worm in disguise,

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disguising? Is it a close, is it a family member?

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Is it somebody you trust, somebody you try, you

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seek safety, security and protection from? And

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then it turns out that this person, this thing is

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the very opposite of what you think. The person

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you seek, the person whose protection and stuff

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you seek is the very reason for your destruction.

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That's invisible. What does it mean? What does it

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indicate? Why is it invisible? Other words, we'll

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come back again to wrap things up. What other

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words do you find peculiar?

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Okay, so we jump to the kind of love. There is

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love. Love is good, right? Oh Rose, thou art sick.

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Bla bla, night, visible worm, howling storm. But

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then there is love. If you look at the poem From

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Afar, you see the word love. Could give you a good

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impression. Against the mostly negative words.

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Sick. Rose is good, yeah? But this is a rose that

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is sick. There's a worm that is invisible. It's

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night. It's stormy and it's howling. And then

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there is love. But this is not an ordinary love.

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This is a love that is, number one, first, it's

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secret. Is it one-sided, unrestricted love?

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But why is it secret? When is love secret? When it

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is harming, like destroying its life. Okay. And

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the thing is that it's dark. Like say hey to خلصنا

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or لا. Why would you say it's dark, love, love?

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It's a disease. Love is not always good and not

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all kinds of love are good. So you're saying this

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is, this means unhealthy love? Unhealthy love. For

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example, the character of the worm. Let's, let's,

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for example, consider that, consider the rose as a

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woman and the worm as a man. He could be an

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oppressive person if he loves her, but he's

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oppressive at the same time. So that's going to

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destroy her life. So, the dark secret. Do you

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think that toxic people, toxic lovers understand

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this? They know that they're not doing a good job,

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that they're being abusive and everything? It's

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their nature. They don't know that what they're

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doing is unhealthy, but it is unhealthy. That's

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why it's invisible. That's why it's invisible?

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Invisible to whom? To the rose?

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The speaker knows. The speaker is diagnosing

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everything. The speaker is all-knowing. He's a

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third-person narrator. He knows that there is a

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worm that is flying and that it is invisible. Is

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there

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an indication in the text that the speaker is

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guessing? No. Or probably invisible to the rose.

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But yeah, these are all valid points. We don't

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have, and it's again the beauty of poetry. This is

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the beauty of even romanticism. It's an extra

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feature we have in romanticism. You can talk about

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a poem for a year and have different opinions and

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everything. There are many gaps. These are poems

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that encourage us to think, to link. try to make

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up our mind and then something shows up and then

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yeah possibly the other reading is is also is also

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valid so this is a love that is secret but it's

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also a love that is dark destructive what else

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there's one word one key word that is significant

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that you haven't highlighted there's

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one word here that is also other than the ones we

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highlighted a word we didn't highlight

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Okay,

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I like that you paid attention to his, yeah. But

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you're saying that she's a woman because the worm

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is a he, not necessary, but rose is usually taken

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as feminine. I think this is a key word in the

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whole poem. He could have simply said it.

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Does it make a difference that the worm is ahi? In

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what sense? He's personifying the worm in order to

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show that this… He's also personifying the rose,

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don't forget. Yes, okay, but here he's

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personifying the rose to raise, let's say raise

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her awareness, to raise her awareness to what she

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is facing but she does not know. Like we're saying

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hey, we're saying here that you are sick and you

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do not know that there is an invisible worm. Why

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is the worm a he? The worm is here because he

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wants to give it the traits of people, of human

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beings, like they are deceptive. Why isn't the

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worm another she?

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We can consider his return to worm because his

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return to the worm itself. Yeah, his refers to

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worm. Do I agree on this?

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Because the poet wants to say that his dark, maybe

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the rest she doesn't know about this love, she

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doesn't even know that she is sick because he's

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saying, oh Rose, thou art sick. I know that you

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are sick, but you don't know that. Why is the worm

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a he? Because you are sick because of the

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invisible worm that he has his dark secret love

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for you. Okay, thank you very much. I think he

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used his to indicate that the whole poem is like

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deeper than a relationship between a rose and a

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worm. He is indicating the relationship between a

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woman and a man. Okay, so you're taking this

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symbolically, he's personifying, if he's

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personifying, if he said, by the way, if he said

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it referring to the worm, we would also guess that

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this is a man and a woman, but he's making it

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clearer to us that this is a his where the man is

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the cause of the destruction, man. If you want to

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take it symbolically, we'll come to this in a bit.

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That man, probably man, not only man, that's

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masculinity. If you're talking about an abusive

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relationship. If not masculinity, perhaps it's

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about the patriarchal society as a whole. The man

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-made society, the society controlled by men and

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made for men. Where women are silent, silenced and

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shushed all the time. Please.

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Okay, but the human soul, what he's taking, he's

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focusing on, he's saying, okay, there are the

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human soul, there's the man and there's the woman.

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The woman is sick because of the other half of

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humanity, because of man. I think he too falls

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into the stereotypes of masculinity and

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femininity, because he's also portraying the rose

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as naive and doesn't know that she's sick. That's

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true. So he's associating what is naive and

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innocent So women cannot represent themselves,

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cannot speak for themselves. They should be

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represented. They don't even know when they are in

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a mess like this. He's informing her, please. I

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think this poem goes beyond a relationship between

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a man and a woman. I think he's actually lamenting

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the loss of innocence in any way. But there's

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nothing wrong even with taking it on this

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particular level, on man-woman relationship.

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As I said, he's lamenting the loss of incense in

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any kind of way. Okay. The warmth is something

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that makes you lose your interest. Okay. Now we'll

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come now to the symbolism, but somebody said

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something about the number of syllables. Okay. How

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many syllables do we have in line number one?

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Five. Usually if you have five, it means there are

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two feet. because some feet consist of three

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syllables yes most feet consist of two syllables

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but some of them consist of three syllables so

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we'll take this as you know as two two feet line

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number two how many how many syllables are

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you sure say again the invisible worm okay three

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feet and then five that flies in the night five in

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the howling storm also five and then has found out

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thy bed five syllables of crimson joy four and

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then he's dark and his dark secret love? And then

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finally, does thy life destroy?

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Of course

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irregular, going from four to five to five to six

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to four to five. Does this make The Sick Rose any

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less of a poem?

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It doesn't make it unpoetic, doesn't lose some of

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its poeticality, some of its beauty, because it

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doesn't conform, it doesn't obey the rules of

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decorum. Now, we'll talk about this in a bit, what

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the romantics think about the rules of decorum.

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And I'm sure that the likes of Alexander Pope,

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methodized and systematized, speaking about rules,

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and those people will be pulling their hair now,

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that those people are like, sorry, this is not the

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way we should do poetry. This is the way how we

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should do poetry. So what about the symbolism?

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What does the poem stand for? Which is the key

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issue in the poem, like thinking of this, thinking

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of the words, the negative words, even the one

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beautiful word here is negative. The rose itself

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or herself. That's it. So what do you think? What

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does the rose symbolize? Please.

493
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This doesn't apply to William Blake. William Blake

494
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:20,150
was a Londoner. He lived in London. He stayed in

495
00:33:20,150 --> 00:33:23,050
London. And some say he even loves London despite

496
00:33:23,050 --> 00:33:25,710
the fact that he was severely critical of London

497
00:33:25,710 --> 00:33:29,770
and the life there. So what does the rose in

498
00:33:29,770 --> 00:33:34,150
specific symbolize? Please. I think this word

499
00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:39,070
symbolizes one thing. Stop counting. Do this.

500
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:45,310
Okay, the rose symbolizes love where one half of

501
00:33:45,310 --> 00:33:48,710
this relationship, love relationship is sick,

502
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:51,510
destroyed, and the other half is causing this

503
00:33:51,510 --> 00:33:55,270
destruction. Thank you, interesting. Also stop

504
00:33:55,270 --> 00:33:58,450
counting, one. So okay, you think that the word

505
00:33:58,450 --> 00:34:02,890
rose symbolizes nature. What is destroying nature

506
00:34:02,890 --> 00:34:05,230
in your sense? What is man? Please.

507
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,680
You know, yeah, sometimes you feel he loves

508
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,160
London, sometimes you think he, you realize that

509
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,500
he hates London, he doesn't like it.

510
00:34:24,340 --> 00:34:28,140
He, him, oh, yeah, okay. So he's Rose, he's, it's

511
00:34:28,140 --> 00:34:30,740
like, you know, the Da Vinci painting, some people

512
00:34:30,740 --> 00:34:33,540
think that this was a self-portrait, Da Vinci

513
00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:36,400
drawing himself, the Mona Lisa, right? So this

514
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,460
could be, oh, Rose looking in the mirror, And, you

515
00:34:40,460 --> 00:34:43,760
know, liking himself and then say, it's the city

516
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,660
that destroyed me. I like this. Thank you very

517
00:34:47,660 --> 00:34:53,060
much. Please. This is innocence and this is

518
00:34:53,060 --> 00:34:54,300
experience. We'll talk about innocence and

519
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:59,640
experience in a bit. Please. The worm is life, the

520
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,500
rose is life in general. Please. Stop counting.

521
00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:08,800
One thing. Beauty. So if beauty can be destroyed

522
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,880
by what? What's the worm here if this is beauty?

523
00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:18,160
If this is beauty, what is the worm? Makeup? Or

524
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:28,320
food? Age, thank you. Age. Poetry is the rose and

525
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,200
what is destroying it is the Okay, I find this far

526
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,360
-fetched but also I like it I like it if you want

527
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,360
to take this the whole poem is symbolic and also

528
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:49,640
parody Toxic

529
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,780
because it's repressive and restrictive it

530
00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:53,980
prevents you from expressing yourself being

531
00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:58,440
yourself Rose

532
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:05,280
rose rose The rules? I think sometimes they do.

533
00:36:06,580 --> 00:36:07,720
Sometimes we do.

534
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,480
That's my opinion. That's your opinion. Again,

535
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,760
this is up to you whether you want to like

536
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,500
classical poetry, whether in Arabic or English,

537
00:36:20,620 --> 00:36:23,180
whether you like classical poetry more than

538
00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:26,520
metaphysical or romantic poetry, free verse, blank

539
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,800
verse, or vice versa. This is a personal

540
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,600
preference. Please. I think you can also say that

541
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,420
the Halloween storm symbolizes life. Okay. In this

542
00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:40,660
sense, what is rose? What is the worm?

543
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:47,650
Okay, so life, innocence, and experience. Now look

544
00:36:47,650 --> 00:36:50,170
at this. Please, finally.

545
00:36:54,370 --> 00:36:59,830
So you're

546
00:36:59,830 --> 00:37:01,870
connecting it with this understanding that this

547
00:37:01,870 --> 00:37:05,650
could be about the repressive rules, the invasive

548
00:37:05,650 --> 00:37:08,690
rules of life, of modern life, of the city

549
00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:11,990
controlling and limiting our imagination. Thank

550
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:12,110
you.

551
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:23,700
Like what? Okay, what else? Who usually depend on

552
00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:27,560
others in the society, in our life? Okay. Oh,

553
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,240
don't say that the rose is students and the worm

554
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:34,300
is a teacher. Okay. Maybe it's vice versa. Maybe

555
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:37,480
we are, you know, we are sick because of the

556
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,380
invisible worms destroying us. Assignments? What

557
00:37:41,380 --> 00:37:46,040
are the assignments? The howling storm? This

558
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,680
sense, this oxymoron here, it's like Hamlet says,

559
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:56,100
tough love, cruel to be kind. So this is, okay. I

560
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:59,180
like how this poem is helping you use your

561
00:37:59,180 --> 00:38:04,100
imagination even more. With the necklaces, it's

562
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:08,420
usually, sometimes you feel that they have one

563
00:38:08,420 --> 00:38:12,640
idea, one thing to teach in a poem. to teach and

564
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,060
delight, right? But with the romantics, you'll

565
00:38:15,060 --> 00:38:18,640
come to a reality where a poem could mean many

566
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,080
things. And I think all your understandings and

567
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,620
interpretations are valid here. But we can also

568
00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:26,680
take this poem to today. I remember last year, one

569
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,280
of the students was saying, this is women now on

570
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:37,060
social media, sometimes men. you know, take

571
00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:39,620
advantage, try to take advantage of women, of

572
00:38:39,620 --> 00:38:42,540
their innocence, of their, you know, and they try

573
00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:45,580
to destroy their lives. I like this

574
00:38:45,580 --> 00:38:47,640
interpretation. The other day, a student was

575
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,340
saying, La Rose is Palestine, the worm is the

576
00:38:51,340 --> 00:38:54,500
Zionist entity coming to Palestine, destroying

577
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:55,520
Palestine, and

578
00:38:58,450 --> 00:39:01,370
That is also valid. But there are two things here.

579
00:39:01,430 --> 00:39:04,630
We don't want to mix things. For William Blake,

580
00:39:04,970 --> 00:39:07,430
yes, this could be taken as some might suggest

581
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:09,870
that the rose is probably an actual rose. He was

582
00:39:09,870 --> 00:39:12,010
walking down the road, I don't know, somewhere in

583
00:39:12,010 --> 00:39:13,770
London. He found a rose where there is a woman

584
00:39:13,770 --> 00:39:17,390
that he made a fuss out of all of this. Or the

585
00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:20,330
rose could symbolize nature. It could symbolize

586
00:39:20,330 --> 00:39:22,490
life in a city and how it was destroyed by the

587
00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:24,290
Industrial Revolution and the factories and the

588
00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:27,820
pollution, somebody said here. Or it could mean

589
00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:30,940
some woman, a woman he knows, or women in general,

590
00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:33,840
or children. I expected some of you to say

591
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,940
children, but there's not much indication here.

592
00:39:38,020 --> 00:39:41,140
But this could be about, or a child, or childhood,

593
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:46,400
or innocence and experience, or beauty, or nature,

594
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,220
or the countryside and how it's being destroyed

595
00:39:48,220 --> 00:39:54,960
by. Now what is it about? I think it's about all

596
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,140
of these. And I think this is a feature of

597
00:39:58,140 --> 00:40:02,920
romanticism, imagination. Encouraging imagination,

598
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,920
encouraging using your mind, not to think

599
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,420
intellectually, to find facts, to create facts

600
00:40:11,420 --> 00:40:12,020
about this,

601
00:40:15,340 --> 00:40:20,380
but to imagine how things could be, how things can

602
00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:23,740
be. The fact that the poem offers so many

603
00:40:23,740 --> 00:40:27,180
possibilities is the very opposite of neoclassical

604
00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:31,940
literature, where usually there's one main

605
00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:34,900
understanding of the text. This is what it is.

606
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,940
It's like mathematics. In a sense, I don't want to

607
00:40:37,940 --> 00:40:40,740
be extreme. But here, there are so many

608
00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:46,240
possibilities for one poem. So if in your exam I

609
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:51,460
ask you, what is the rose a symbol of, you could

610
00:40:51,460 --> 00:40:54,710
say, whatever you like as long as you support your

611
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:59,770
argument with things about Blake or things from

612
00:40:59,770 --> 00:41:02,170
the book. But don't go too far to taking it to say

613
00:41:02,170 --> 00:41:07,590
this, it stands for Palestine or Facebook. What I

614
00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:11,050
mean here is that you could post this poem, you

615
00:41:11,050 --> 00:41:16,560
could have this Photoshop design put a picture of

616
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,040
the top of the rock or a map of Palestine and

617
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,600
write this and it worked and say, oh Rose, thou

618
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,420
art sick than visible worm. You could say this to

619
00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:29,260
somebody who has been in a toxic relationship like

620
00:41:29,260 --> 00:41:32,420
trying to cheer them up. I don't know, tell them

621
00:41:32,420 --> 00:41:36,420
it has been happening. But remember, I don't care

622
00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:38,620
about the authorial intention. I don't care what

623
00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:42,140
he intended, William Blake. He could have intended

624
00:41:42,140 --> 00:41:47,280
all these things you just mentioned. Now, in the

625
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,740
remaining time, I want you to see this other

626
00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:52,340
beautiful poem by William Blake.

627
00:41:55,660 --> 00:41:59,320
William Blake was very famous for

628
00:42:02,130 --> 00:42:06,750
like two groups or two volumes of poetry entitled

629
00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:09,470
Songs of Innocence, Songs of Experience where he

630
00:42:09,470 --> 00:42:13,010
talks about the two statuses of life. Sometimes

631
00:42:13,010 --> 00:42:17,490
the same experience is looked at because he

632
00:42:17,490 --> 00:42:20,870
believes in the fact that the world is our own

633
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:25,690
perception. We create the world, we create it. How

634
00:42:25,690 --> 00:42:30,070
we see the world, is what the world is, and you

635
00:42:30,070 --> 00:42:35,270
see it. I'll quote him in a bit. He says, both

636
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:41,870
read the Bible day and night. Thou saw dark, I saw

637
00:42:41,870 --> 00:42:45,010
light. It's the same Bible, different people,

638
00:42:45,170 --> 00:42:48,760
different understanding and perception. And in a

639
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,120
way, but again, this is extreme to some extent,

640
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,160
the world being our own perception. So in the

641
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,700
Songs of Innocence, we find, for example, a poem

642
00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:58,960
about the chimney sweeper in innocence from the

643
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,540
perspective of the children, how things are from

644
00:43:02,540 --> 00:43:07,060
how the kids see things. And then we'll have a

645
00:43:07,060 --> 00:43:10,860
chimney sweeper from an experience point of view

646
00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:14,270
where See, the poem focuses on the corruption and

647
00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:16,270
the destruction of life and innocence and

648
00:43:16,270 --> 00:43:18,470
childhood in the poem. The same thing happens

649
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:21,330
here. We have two poems, Songs of Innocence and

650
00:43:21,330 --> 00:43:23,410
Songs of Experience. I'm sorry this doesn't fit

651
00:43:23,410 --> 00:43:25,570
the whole poem. The first poem, the innocence

652
00:43:25,570 --> 00:43:31,110
poem, is actually four stanzas. I'll read it very

653
00:43:31,110 --> 00:43:34,830
quickly. When the voices of children are heard on

654
00:43:34,830 --> 00:43:38,430
the green. Look at how long it is. Children, the

655
00:43:38,430 --> 00:43:43,170
green extends. And then the voice of children,

656
00:43:43,810 --> 00:43:46,950
what happens here, not only the voices, also

657
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:52,750
laughing is heard on the hill. My heart is at rest

658
00:43:52,750 --> 00:43:57,670
within my breast. This brings me joy and rest and

659
00:43:57,670 --> 00:44:02,150
happiness. because of the kids playing and

660
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:06,050
laughing having fun and everything else is still

661
00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:10,010
these are the most important things here then look

662
00:44:10,010 --> 00:44:13,750
at the quote so this is probably the nurse then

663
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:19,670
come home my children the sun is is gone down and

664
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:24,390
the dews of night arise come come leave off play

665
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:27,550
and let us away till the morning appears in the

666
00:44:27,550 --> 00:44:32,510
sky so come back home And then you could come back

667
00:44:32,510 --> 00:44:36,510
to play tomorrow. It's not the end of the day.

668
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:37,990
It's literally the end of the day, but it's not

669
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:39,850
the end of everything. You can, it's a cycle. You

670
00:44:39,850 --> 00:44:42,690
keep going on to play. I have no problem with

671
00:44:42,690 --> 00:44:46,710
that. So this is the nurse first describing what's

672
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:50,030
going on and then because it's the sun is gone

673
00:44:50,030 --> 00:44:56,150
down, come, come. The sun is gone, leave off play

674
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:59,610
and let us away till the morning appears in the

675
00:44:59,610 --> 00:45:05,110
skies. And then the kids also, this is a quote,

676
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:10,490
speaking back, talking back. No, no, let us play

677
00:45:10,490 --> 00:45:15,890
for it is yet day. It is still day, Fada. And we

678
00:45:15,890 --> 00:45:20,510
cannot go to sleep. Besides, in the sky little

679
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:24,370
birds fly. There are still birds out there. And

680
00:45:24,370 --> 00:45:27,310
the hills are all covered with sheep. So people

681
00:45:27,310 --> 00:45:30,210
are out there, life is there, nature is there. Why

682
00:45:30,210 --> 00:45:34,370
would you take us back home? Well, well, and this

683
00:45:34,370 --> 00:45:37,830
is again the nurse. Well, well, go and play till

684
00:45:37,830 --> 00:45:41,410
the light fades away. And then go home to bed.

685
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:44,570
That's the end of, again, the speech here, the

686
00:45:44,570 --> 00:45:46,670
dialogue. Look at the dialogue. You will not find

687
00:45:46,670 --> 00:45:50,150
this dialogic thing in neoclassical, this much of

688
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:56,070
dialogism in neoclassical poetry. The little ones

689
00:45:56,070 --> 00:46:01,050
leaped. and shouted and laughed and all the hills

690
00:46:01,050 --> 00:46:06,890
echoed. Nature is laughing back. Very simple poem,

691
00:46:06,970 --> 00:46:09,890
yeah? It's very simple. Kids playing, come back

692
00:46:09,890 --> 00:46:12,450
home. No, we're not coming back home. There's

693
00:46:12,450 --> 00:46:15,490
still, you know, birds and sheep out there. So

694
00:46:15,490 --> 00:46:19,050
okay, play some more, like one more hour, 30

695
00:46:19,050 --> 00:46:22,290
minutes more, and then when the light fades away,

696
00:46:22,610 --> 00:46:25,710
come back home. Look at this poem, okay?

697
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:36,640
This is the same experience, the same story from a

698
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,560
different point of view, experience. The nurse's

699
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,440
song experience.

700
00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:46,800
The first thing is that this is the whole poem.

701
00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:54,280
Two syllables, two stanzas. It's 50%, it's half

702
00:46:54,280 --> 00:47:00,880
the song of innocence. When voices of children are

703
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,400
heard on the green, the very same first line, and

704
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:11,660
not laughing and giggling and playing and sounds

705
00:47:11,660 --> 00:47:17,300
and naughtiness, whisperings. Now there is, why

706
00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:19,880
would we whisper? It's either a secret or there's

707
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,670
fear, you're not allowed to speak. You're not

708
00:47:24,670 --> 00:47:26,910
allowed to speak. You shouldn't speak. And

709
00:47:26,910 --> 00:47:31,510
whisperings are in the dale. The days of my youth.

710
00:47:31,610 --> 00:47:33,350
The poem is about the speaker. It's no longer

711
00:47:33,350 --> 00:47:35,210
about the children. That's why it changes from

712
00:47:35,210 --> 00:47:39,030
innocence to experience. The days of my youth rise

713
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:44,330
fresh in my mind. My face turns green and pale.

714
00:47:45,050 --> 00:47:47,950
Probably an older person. Feels jealous. Feels,

715
00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:54,610
you know, green and pale. Not happy that the kids

716
00:47:54,610 --> 00:47:58,490
are playing, not happy that the kids are, then

717
00:47:58,490 --> 00:48:02,730
it's not even an attempt to strike a dialogue

718
00:48:02,730 --> 00:48:05,330
here, to begin a conversation. It's just taken

719
00:48:05,330 --> 00:48:08,070
matter-of-factly. Then, come home, my children.

720
00:48:08,290 --> 00:48:11,850
The sun is gone down and the dews of night arise.

721
00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:17,270
Your spring and your day are wasted in play. And

722
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:19,610
you, yeah, wasted. That's a very negative word.

723
00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:24,750
And you winter a night in disguise. The good is

724
00:48:24,750 --> 00:48:27,890
yet to come, the bad is yet to come. That's the

725
00:48:27,890 --> 00:48:30,510
whole problem. There's no reply from the kids.

726
00:48:31,150 --> 00:48:34,730
They don't talk back. They're not allowed to speak

727
00:48:34,730 --> 00:48:35,450
back.

728
00:48:38,290 --> 00:48:41,770
They're never taken seriously. Kids are muted.

729
00:48:42,170 --> 00:48:46,390
Kids are repressed. And probably two of the most

730
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:50,250
important English poets that were fascinated with

731
00:48:50,250 --> 00:48:54,500
the concept of childhood William Blake and William

732
00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:59,340
Wordsworth. Wordsworth says a child is the father

733
00:48:59,340 --> 00:49:03,760
of man. A child is the father. It's paradoxical

734
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,240
for what it means. So look at the differences here

735
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:10,360
in language, look at the differences in

736
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:16,220
and the size and the dialogue. The most important

737
00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:18,840
thing I like about this poem is the fact that the

738
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,620
first, the innocence poem includes the dialogue

739
00:49:21,620 --> 00:49:24,620
that the kids speaking, having their voice,

740
00:49:24,780 --> 00:49:28,420
representing themselves, you know, asking for

741
00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:31,640
their right to play, to have fun, to laugh, to

742
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:31,940
run.

743
00:49:34,980 --> 00:49:38,560
And that's why the first poem is, it's a musical,

744
00:49:38,940 --> 00:49:43,120
the positive words, it's not only the kids

745
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,160
playing, also nature, the sheep, the birds,

746
00:49:47,260 --> 00:49:50,300
everything is also happy and singing and dancing

747
00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:54,340
with the kids. Is he saying that when kids are

748
00:49:54,340 --> 00:49:56,780
playing and happy, everything around will be also

749
00:49:56,780 --> 00:50:00,220
happy? But in the second poem, because the kids

750
00:50:00,220 --> 00:50:04,850
are not allowed to speak, We destroy them but also

751
00:50:04,850 --> 00:50:07,370
we destroy ourselves because we don't see the

752
00:50:07,370 --> 00:50:09,950
beauty of the children playing and being innocent

753
00:50:09,950 --> 00:50:15,210
and all we see is green, pale,

754
00:50:17,450 --> 00:50:23,850
wasted and also disguised. Yeah? Green I think

755
00:50:23,850 --> 00:50:26,410
like has two indications here it is like gloomy

756
00:50:26,410 --> 00:50:28,970
and it's a sad indication but there it's like

757
00:50:28,970 --> 00:50:32,820
green, the green helps and you So the same thing,

758
00:50:32,980 --> 00:50:37,120
thank you for noticing this, the idea is that this

759
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,300
is what innocence and experience, like innocence

760
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:44,540
is usually things viewed from the perspective of

761
00:50:44,540 --> 00:50:48,100
children mostly of innocence or purity. Experience

762
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:51,460
means like, I don't know, corruption? Like it

763
00:50:51,460 --> 00:50:53,240
doesn't mean like having more experience, having

764
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:55,480
something that is negative that's destroying your

765
00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:00,060
life. You being corrupted by age, by life, by the

766
00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:03,040
city, by the fact that you have to compete, by

767
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,660
conflicts you have around, by the hate you have

768
00:51:05,660 --> 00:51:08,020
when you grow up. When you are kids, you would

769
00:51:08,020 --> 00:51:12,240
fight with somebody. But ten minutes later, you're

770
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:15,380
playing again, your friends again. But when you

771
00:51:15,380 --> 00:51:18,240
grow up, if you hate somebody, sometimes you hate

772
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:21,740
them forever. Even if you later on realize that,

773
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,120
well, it's been some insignificant issue. It's a

774
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,040
silly thing. Please.

775
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:38,630
Thank you very much. Thank you very much for

776
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:41,530
bringing the Industrial Revolution because it's

777
00:51:41,530 --> 00:51:44,570
one reason for why we have the romantic poets

778
00:51:44,570 --> 00:51:46,670
writing the poetry they wrote. Industrial

779
00:51:46,670 --> 00:51:49,970
Revolution, French Revolution, the American

780
00:51:49,970 --> 00:51:51,610
Revolution. We'll talk about this more when we

781
00:51:51,610 --> 00:51:55,810
speak about William Wordsworth. So the industrial

782
00:51:55,810 --> 00:51:59,010
revolution changed life, corrupted life, polluted

783
00:51:59,010 --> 00:52:02,730
life. But the industrial revolution also brought

784
00:52:02,730 --> 00:52:08,090
people in masses from the countryside to the city.

785
00:52:10,130 --> 00:52:12,690
And when you go to the city, you go to the city,

786
00:52:13,250 --> 00:52:18,230
why? For the experience? For work, okay? For a

787
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:22,150
job, to improve your life, for looking, expecting.

788
00:52:23,050 --> 00:52:26,490
your dreams to come true. But at that time when

789
00:52:26,490 --> 00:52:31,030
England was becoming the greatest empire of all

790
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:33,630
times, the empire on which the sun never set,

791
00:52:37,830 --> 00:52:41,210
The British armies were, and companies and

792
00:52:41,210 --> 00:52:44,090
enterprises, they were bringing raw materials from

793
00:52:44,090 --> 00:52:46,710
the colonies, from India, Africa, around the

794
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:50,210
world, and bringing most of them to the factories

795
00:52:50,210 --> 00:52:53,110
in London, in Liverpool, in Manchester. And these

796
00:52:53,110 --> 00:52:56,550
factories needed so many laborers and workers, and

797
00:52:56,550 --> 00:52:59,510
they would be leaving the countryside, the rural

798
00:52:59,510 --> 00:53:02,090
areas, hoping for a better life, and they would

799
00:53:02,090 --> 00:53:07,520
end up enslaved for factories. They would end up

800
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,440
being controlled, working from six or eight or

801
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,200
seven a.m. until six or eight or seven p.m.

802
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,060
And thank you very much. And this is, we'll quote

803
00:53:23,060 --> 00:53:27,120
Shelley, describing the situation. Similar to the

804
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,760
situation we live in Gaza nowadays. The poor get

805
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,800
poorer. And the rich get richer. And again, we

806
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,180
always come back to Bernie Sanders saying the 1%

807
00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:43,660
and the 99%. So the 1%, the richest people keep

808
00:53:43,660 --> 00:53:46,600
getting rich no matter what. And the poor people

809
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,740
are destroying their lives. Look at Amazon and GFP

810
00:53:49,740 --> 00:53:53,380
pesos, $180 billion.

811
00:53:56,890 --> 00:54:00,050
There was a story the other day about an employee

812
00:54:00,050 --> 00:54:04,090
at Amazon who died, who just fell. He had a heart

813
00:54:04,090 --> 00:54:06,750
attack and died and nobody noticed him for 20

814
00:54:06,750 --> 00:54:09,970
minutes. Despite the fact that there are so many

815
00:54:09,970 --> 00:54:15,240
people there. And I think his brother said that a

816
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:20,380
week before this guy mistakenly labeled a

817
00:54:20,380 --> 00:54:22,800
different product, and within two minutes, the

818
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,800
cameras and the computer managed to find this

819
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,880
error and mistake. Two minutes. If you make a

820
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,180
mistake for a product, for a thing that brings

821
00:54:33,180 --> 00:54:36,260
money, it can be recognized. But when somebody

822
00:54:36,260 --> 00:54:41,120
just falls, dies, has a heart attack, a human

823
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,150
being is not as important as As a product that

824
00:54:45,150 --> 00:54:50,170
could cost, I don't know, two or three dollars. So

825
00:54:50,170 --> 00:54:54,450
yeah, there is always this in romantic poetry. The

826
00:54:54,450 --> 00:54:56,210
industrial revolution is always in the background.

827
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,400
We can't apply industrial revolution on this

828
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,340
because when a man lives in a city and he misses

829
00:55:06,340 --> 00:55:09,620
nature, so when he goes to the countryside and he

830
00:55:09,620 --> 00:55:13,860
values nature more because he misses it and he's

831
00:55:13,860 --> 00:55:15,880
not used to it. But people who live in the

832
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,300
countryside, they see these flowers and nature and

833
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:20,740
beauty every day, so maybe it's the opposite.

834
00:55:21,470 --> 00:55:23,470
You're right, but with the Romantics, even with

835
00:55:23,470 --> 00:55:25,230
Wordsworth and Coleridge who lived in the

836
00:55:25,230 --> 00:55:28,310
countryside, they loved the countryside. I agree.

837
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:31,270
They actually talk about this. This is a feature

838
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:35,530
of Romanticism. They try to defamiliarize their

839
00:55:35,530 --> 00:55:40,530
experiences. to rip the veil of familiarity. When

840
00:55:40,530 --> 00:55:43,630
you live, there are flowers and roses and trees

841
00:55:43,630 --> 00:55:46,390
and cats and birds around campus here, right? But

842
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:48,470
sometimes, usually we don't pay attention. I

843
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:51,430
usually say this, like, when is the last time you

844
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:55,930
looked at the moon? Spinach is because we live in

845
00:55:55,930 --> 00:56:01,230
concrete buildings. We don't have even a crack to

846
00:56:01,230 --> 00:56:03,570
the moon. We usually don't see it from our windows

847
00:56:03,570 --> 00:56:07,170
from where we live most often. Very few of us

848
00:56:07,170 --> 00:56:09,510
would just wait for the moon to look at how big it

849
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:11,030
is, how beautiful it is. Remember when we were

850
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:14,490
kids, we spent most of our time looking at clouds

851
00:56:14,490 --> 00:56:17,390
and what shapes they make. We don't do this now,

852
00:56:17,770 --> 00:56:20,050
even if you like nature, because we're busy, we

853
00:56:20,050 --> 00:56:21,690
have exams, we have to study, we have reflections

854
00:56:21,690 --> 00:56:23,590
to write, we have classes to attend, we have work

855
00:56:23,590 --> 00:56:27,090
to do, we have, you know, we need, we keep rushing

856
00:56:27,090 --> 00:56:29,710
and this is city, this is new, this is life, this

857
00:56:29,710 --> 00:56:34,050
is civilization. Therefore, the romantics call for

858
00:56:34,050 --> 00:56:36,630
this thing called the childlike experience. We

859
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:40,490
have to see everything anew, afresh every time.

860
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,820
And I always give the example of the, I mentioned

861
00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:48,680
this many times, how the little kid, if you have a

862
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,060
kid in a car or something, they would see a donkey

863
00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:54,300
and then a donkey and then a donkey. You hate the

864
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:56,080
scene yourself. When you see a donkey, it's like,

865
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,440
you know, because you are now grown up, you're

866
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,640
civilized. It's like, it's a donkey. But the kid

867
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,380
will say, eh, mah, eh, mah, eh, mah, right? Even

868
00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:07,980
the light, you know, right? We see this all the

869
00:57:07,980 --> 00:57:11,440
time. When kids see stuff, they always, it's as if

870
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,100
it is the first time ever to see this. And the

871
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:16,500
romantics want us to go to this state of

872
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:20,360
innocence. No corruption, nothing changing or

873
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,820
blinding us, nothing keeping us away from, that's

874
00:57:23,820 --> 00:57:26,880
why this is a process of defamiliarizing to rip

875
00:57:28,350 --> 00:57:31,830
the veil of familiarity. We see this in the

876
00:57:31,830 --> 00:57:35,210
daffodils. We see daffodils, we see flowers around

877
00:57:35,210 --> 00:57:41,450
very often, but do we stop to think? Not to think

878
00:57:41,450 --> 00:57:46,470
actually, to gaze, to enjoy, to imagine. So what

879
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:51,200
are the features of this photo. What new things do

880
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,600
you find here in both poems about play? Quickly.

881
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,040
If you want to come up with a list of five or six

882
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,500
or seven features, please. First of all,

883
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,380
imagination. Thank you very much. Imagination.

884
00:58:04,140 --> 00:58:06,880
Simple language. Simplicity of language.

885
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,880
Excellent. Inspiration. Inspiration from what

886
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:14,260
generally? What is the source of inspiration? The

887
00:58:14,260 --> 00:58:19,720
rules of the Qur'an or something else? Nature,

888
00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:27,600
childhood, innocence, please. No rigid rooms,

889
00:58:27,940 --> 00:58:31,720
probably free forms of poetry, new forms of poetry

890
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,460
rather than free because sometimes we talk about

891
00:58:34,460 --> 00:58:38,980
this more. Defamiliarization of ordinary mundane

892
00:58:38,980 --> 00:58:42,360
experiences. The subject matter could be about

893
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,380
anything. It's about a rose. It's about, I don't

894
00:58:44,380 --> 00:58:47,220
know, it's about children playing. This wasn't the

895
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:50,500
case with neoclassicism. Childhood is also a

896
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:54,150
feature. They are fascinated with childhood. I

897
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:56,370
will say something. I think that decriminalization

898
00:58:56,370 --> 00:58:58,870
appears in the word spring. Like in Song of

899
00:58:58,870 --> 00:59:02,410
Experience, he only says your spring and your day.

900
00:59:02,730 --> 00:59:06,290
But in the Song of Innocence, he illustrates more.

901
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:10,570
And he says like hell's sky fly and birds fly and

902
00:59:10,570 --> 00:59:14,910
sheep. So this is how children see spring, while

903
00:59:14,910 --> 00:59:17,590
this is like the word spring itself is how adults

904
00:59:17,590 --> 00:59:18,270
see spring.

905
00:59:21,050 --> 00:59:23,530
It's possible, but defamiliarization is basically

906
00:59:23,530 --> 00:59:28,070
making familiar things look unfamiliar. Like when

907
00:59:28,070 --> 00:59:31,290
you read the daffodils, the thousands of daffodils

908
00:59:31,290 --> 00:59:33,210
dancing and tossing their heads and like that.

909
00:59:33,330 --> 00:59:35,610
That is something like, what's his name? The guy

910
00:59:35,610 --> 00:59:37,710
who draws the sunflowers.

911
00:59:39,610 --> 00:59:47,150
Van Gogh. He drew hundreds of these sunflowers and

912
00:59:47,150 --> 00:59:50,030
every time you see them, they look different. It's

913
00:59:50,030 --> 00:59:51,790
as if you see them for the first time.

914
00:59:56,370 --> 01:00:00,910
I'm sorry that Blake was interested in the

915
01:00:00,910 --> 01:00:05,420
childlike vision more than childhood itself. And I

916
01:00:05,420 --> 01:00:08,800
think both. I think both. But yeah, the vision is

917
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,080
like, not only the vision, the vision and the

918
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:15,060
state of innocence. So here we find that the nurse

919
01:00:15,060 --> 01:00:19,960
also has that childlike vision here because she's

920
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,320
telling children to play. Okay, just play. The

921
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,240
first one. Yeah, the nurse. You're speaking about

922
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,500
a mature person here, not only the children. She

923
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:31,140
has a childlike vision, she supports playing, she

924
01:00:31,140 --> 01:00:33,280
thinks it's healthy and it's something that should

925
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,520
be done. While the nurse in the other one

926
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,220
experienced that belief that it's a waste of time.

927
01:00:40,660 --> 01:00:44,300
And again there is no room, no space for kids to

928
01:00:44,300 --> 01:00:46,580
express themselves. So she doesn't have the

929
01:00:46,580 --> 01:00:52,000
childlike vision. That's right. True. And look at

930
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,700
how the kids even, I'm imagining a situation where

931
01:00:54,700 --> 01:00:57,300
the kids are playing and then this nurse comes and

932
01:00:57,300 --> 01:01:00,260
everybody starts whispering rather than laughing.

933
01:01:00,460 --> 01:01:02,400
So they know here already that she's repressive,

934
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,820
she's going to oppress them. I'll go through and

935
01:01:07,820 --> 01:01:10,200
then finish. I'll go through some of William

936
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:15,000
Blake's fascinating, by the way, if you Google top

937
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,890
most influential British people of all time, 100

938
01:01:20,890 --> 01:01:23,870
most influential British people, Blake is on the

939
01:01:23,870 --> 01:01:28,190
list. Wordsworth is not. Many people you think of

940
01:01:28,190 --> 01:01:30,450
are not on the list. But William Blake is one of

941
01:01:30,450 --> 01:01:32,930
the people because he's a pioneer of this

942
01:01:32,930 --> 01:01:37,850
movement. Look at what fascinating things. If you

943
01:01:37,850 --> 01:01:40,330
are interested in Blake, you could go for more

944
01:01:40,330 --> 01:01:45,070
quotes or things. Prisons are built with stones of

945
01:01:45,070 --> 01:01:45,310
law.

946
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:54,040
brothels with bricks of religion. How this man was

947
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,060
anti-establishment. In his poem London, you should

948
01:01:57,060 --> 01:02:00,620
read this poem. He clearly openly attacks the

949
01:02:00,620 --> 01:02:03,440
establishment, the palace, and the church. How

950
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:08,260
they exploit people, exploit their privileges to

951
01:02:08,260 --> 01:02:11,340
destroy people. How the law is turning people into

952
01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:13,900
criminals. How religion here is used to turn

953
01:02:13,900 --> 01:02:17,440
people. Great things are done when men and

954
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:23,680
mountains meet, nature. Both read the Bible day

955
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:33,020
and night, but thou read black where I read

956
01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:33,380
white.

957
01:02:39,340 --> 01:02:42,980
He says the Bible is different, not because the

958
01:02:42,980 --> 01:02:46,270
Bible is different, because we are different. If

959
01:02:46,270 --> 01:02:48,610
you are open-minded, if you see things, you know,

960
01:02:49,390 --> 01:02:51,710
you see good things, positive, you look at the

961
01:02:51,710 --> 01:02:54,790
stupid cliche of looking at the half empty of the

962
01:02:54,790 --> 01:02:58,310
cup and the half full of the cup. So I read, you

963
01:02:58,310 --> 01:03:02,450
read black because of your, you know, your mind,

964
01:03:02,570 --> 01:03:05,230
thank you, your perception. I must, I think this

965
01:03:05,230 --> 01:03:07,410
is the most powerful thing you need to learn about

966
01:03:07,410 --> 01:03:10,010
William Blake. I must, look at the must here, not

967
01:03:10,010 --> 01:03:14,810
should. I must create a system. Create my own

968
01:03:14,810 --> 01:03:18,530
rules, my own constructs. Or be enslaved by

969
01:03:18,530 --> 01:03:21,630
another man's. Or else I'll be enslaved by another

970
01:03:21,630 --> 01:03:28,090
man's rules. The three?

971
01:03:32,370 --> 01:03:37,130
A, B. Possible, it could be common with him. But

972
01:03:37,130 --> 01:03:41,890
different from the A, B, B, A or A, B, A, B. I

973
01:03:41,890 --> 01:03:44,310
will not reason, but again, it's not only about

974
01:03:44,310 --> 01:03:45,930
the rhyme scheme. The rhyme scheme is just one

975
01:03:45,930 --> 01:03:49,570
indication. I will not reason and compare, like

976
01:03:49,570 --> 01:03:52,330
the age of intellectuality, the age of reason, the

977
01:03:52,330 --> 01:03:55,730
Augustan Age. My business is to create. By the

978
01:03:55,730 --> 01:03:58,690
way, he was a famous painter. If you Google his

979
01:03:58,690 --> 01:04:03,190
poems and look at Google images, he would be doing

980
01:04:03,190 --> 01:04:05,850
these engravings and beautiful paintings for his

981
01:04:05,850 --> 01:04:11,120
poems. They were very expensive. The tree which

982
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,080
moves some to tears of joy. Again, look at how he

983
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:19,040
focuses on these two states, how experience and

984
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,900
our perceptions create the world we live in. In

985
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:27,800
the eyes of others, only a green thing, only a

986
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green thing could move you. Something that happens

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all the time. You find somebody says something, is

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telling a story, and some people are like crying

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their eyes out, and some people are like, Nothing.

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It means nothing to them. It doesn't mean you're

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bad. It means this time this place is not touching

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something new.

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But to the eyes of the man of imagination, nature

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is imagination itself. We see this in words,

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words, words. Nature is the theme. Some people say

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Shakespeare is using nature. Shall I compare thee

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to a summer's day? He's saying summer's day. But

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he's using nature to ornament his poem, to make

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01:05:05,620 --> 01:05:10,060
his poem as metaphors. But here nature itself is

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the theme. Imagination itself is the theme. It's

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not only the medium or The tool. What is now

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proved was once only imagined. Beautiful. What is

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now proved was once imagined in somebody's

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imagination. Pottery fitted. I love this very much

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again. Pottery and this clearly shows how he

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deliberately was saying sorry to the rules of

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decorum and classicalism. Pottery fitted. Pottery

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that is restrained, restricted by rules. fitters

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01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:46,380
the human race. That's an extreme opinion. If you

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control poetry, if you repress poetry, restrict

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poetry, you restrict human race, our imagination

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and our experiences. Nations are destroyed or

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flourish in proportion as their poetry, painting

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and music are destroyed or flourish. This feels

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like somebody in the 20th century, 21st century

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said. This is how ahead of his time he was. This

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is another extract from a beautiful poem. What

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he's doing, to see a world in a grain of sand and

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a heaven in a wildflower. Hold infinity in the

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palm of your hand and eternity in an hour.

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When I tell the truth, it's not for the sake of

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convincing those who don't know it, but for the

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sake of defending those that do.

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When I tell the truth, it's not for the sake of

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convincing those who don't know the truth, but

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convincing those who know the truth or who are

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willing to know the truth. Those who restrain

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their desires do so because theirs, their desire

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is weak enough to be restrained Desires,

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imagination, feelings shouldn't be controlled If

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the doors, again the perception issue here, if the

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doors of perception were cleansed everything would

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appear to man as it is, infinite

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And again, the city life destroys our perception,

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makes everything mundane, boring, repetitive

1036
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:39,740
Without contraries, there is no progression If

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something is very black, it could sound very black

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01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:47,800
when it's next to very white color or something

1039
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like this, very short, very tall, and these things

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And that's why he's focusing on these two states

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of mind. If you don't understand innocence, unless

1042
01:07:57,270 --> 01:08:03,610
there is experience there and vice versa. And

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finally, this is a very powerful statement, but it

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shouldn't be fixed here. I care not whether a man

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is good or evil. All that I care is whether he is

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01:08:14,950 --> 01:08:23,480
a wise man or a fool. Go put off holiness and put

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01:08:23,480 --> 01:08:28,100
on intellect. Don't disguise under an attire or a

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mask of religion or goodness or whatever. All I

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care about is whether you are a good man, a wise

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01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:41,680
man or a fool. If you are a wise man, like if you

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are a fool,

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I'm stopping here. Okay I want you to think of

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possible features for William Blake. and his

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poetry. Read more poetry by William Blake. Many

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students usually approach me and ask me, I want to

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write poetry. I want to like English poetry. Where

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should I start? I usually point to William Blake.

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If you want to write poetry, read his many, many,

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many poems. You're lucky if you're doing also the

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romantic literature course because you will be

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exposed to more poems by William Blake. Thank you

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very much, ladies. If you have a question, you can

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stay behind.