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Assalamualaikum and welcome back to English Poetry
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at the Islamic University of Gaza. I hope that you
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all and your loved ones are safe and sound after
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yet another Israeli brutal attack on Gaza. Today,
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we continue to work on romantic poetry. We go back
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to Chile. We examined one of the most fascinating
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poems of all times. That's Ozymandias. I'll go
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back to Ozymandias. We'll do something else in
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addition to examining the poem. And I'll start
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with that. When we talk about poets, probably we
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mentioned this early in the course. Why poets? Why
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we need poets? What is it that poets do that
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others do not do? Let me ask you this question
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again. Do we really need poets in our societies,
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in our lives? Are they significant? Can we do
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without them? Can life be the same without poets?
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What is it that poets do to make life different or
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special or better or bad? Can you live Like,
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honestly, can you live a whole month or a whole
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year without reading a poem, listening to a poem,
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listening to a song, reciting a song? What is it
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that we find appealing? Why? Again, here,
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basically, I'm talking about other than the beauty
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of the language The ingenious ways they employ
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literal devices and sounds and the way they word
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their stuff, their originality and everything. I'm
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talking about ideas and thoughts. and
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contributions to civilization, to society. I think
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what we need from poets is that they are having
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control over words. So in their words, they have
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emotions, and they evoke the emotions of other
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people. So they can convey a strong message that
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they want to the other people. And when the
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people's feelings move, then it will turn out to
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be action. So it is important for people to
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improve their country and to improve themselves to
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reap the fruit. So okay if you're talking about
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the ability to convey emotions and feelings in
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words and then the ability to turn these words
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into action. Who does this? Like who does this
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generally in life other than poets? Is it only
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poets who convey, don't teachers sometimes do
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this? Don't parents do this? What is it that is,
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we feel special about poetry? And about poets?
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Like a taxi driver could give you, could express
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his advice. No offense to taxi drivers, I'm just
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giving you an example. Yes.
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Okay, so there is this special thing about deep
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analysis, the profound, you know, digging deeper
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and deeper rather than going for the superficial
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mundane things. I believe that, first of all, as
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Rizwan said, some people have so much emotions but
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they can't find the words. So literature in
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general, whether poetry or prose, gives you those
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words. Another thing is Reading literature
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sometimes helps us overcome our troubles, because
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when we read literature, we feel that there are
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people who think out of the same But again,
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doesn't this apply to other mundane things? If
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you, I don't know, if you are a parent, you have a
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shopping list to do, you have little money, you
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have too many things to buy and you read it. It
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could be a life changing experience because the
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things, is this the same? What's the difference
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between like say a shopping list and a poem? Okay.
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I think okay imagine a father again you know
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struggling you know the economical situation
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around the world and how people are struggling to
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afford to put food on the table and somebody
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realizes that he has to buy so many things at the
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same time he has or she has very little money
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that's going to it's going to be like a poem
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So what's the difference? Why do we have poets?
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What is the main job of a poet? I think that
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poetry makes you feel responsible upon something
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you didn't feel responsible about, like defending
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the land or doing something good or maybe make a
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charity. sometimes you see a poor person and you
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don't think to give him money or her. So poetry
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makes you to think about this. But when I'm
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talking about a father who has responsibility over
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his family, it's normal to feel responsible. So
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you don't need poetry to feel responsible about
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that. So poetry doesn't change our relationships
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between, like if you have a, don't you like your
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mom more when you read one particular poem, you
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listen to one particular song? But does this love
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increase, decrease? Increases. Does poetry
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contribute to increasing, decreasing things? This
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question is in my heart. Please. Please, yes. I
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think poets have the ability to say stuff that we
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feel but can't say. So yes, when you read a poem
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about mothers in general, I can relate to the
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feelings, but I myself, it never occurred to me to
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say them this way. When I read them in a poem, if
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somebody is speaking your mind, you know? And like
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another thing, you said about like what's the
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difference between like a father who lectures you
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and like a poet who is also in a way another
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lecturer in a poem. Well, it's different because
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like I think we choose to listen to the poem and
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like even if it was all dictation, full of stuff
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that… Preaching, yeah. Yeah, teaching, we still
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wouldn't like feel it this way because like we
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choose to listen to it and we like think of it
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more than when someone just comes to us directly
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So you're saying that here sometimes when
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something is dictated to us, you know, when we're
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given orders, commands, we tend to, you know, to
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be reluctant to do, to follow. But if something is
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written in such a way, in such an attractive,
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poetic way that speaks our minds, but at the same
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time does not make us feel that we're just blindly
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following somebody. It's this thing that answers
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some call from inside that makes you feel that
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it's special because you find poetry different.
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Yes, I think even their arguments aren't
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convincing enough that they're degrading in a way
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to appeal to people. Okay, okay. But we do have
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other people who are as convincing as poets. Don't
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we? So, what is the main job of poets? If you are
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a poet, what would you be doing and why? Poets are
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responsible to start things and they call people's
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attention to something or they make people pay
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attention to something that they are part of. For
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example, when I read about such as the incitement
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party or the resistance,
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So you're talking about two things here. Number
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one, the ability of many poets to defamiliarize
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things, to push us to reconsider things, even the
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very mundane, the things that we see every day,
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but we don't pay attention to. And now the poets
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present these things in a way that attracts our
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attention, that makes us pause, think, and
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reconsider our position, our stances. And you
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mentioned another point, which is really very deep
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here, about how poets usually initiate. They start
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things. And this is something that mirrors Freud's
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famous statement, the poets were there before me.
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You know Freud, psychoanalysis? When he was
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looking for examples to clarify, to illustrate his
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ideas about psychoanalysis and everything, he
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found himself almost always quoting literary
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works, works of fiction drama, poetry. And he came
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to the conclusion that poets were there before me,
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every, all my ideas. have been in a way or another
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expressed, mentioned, discussed, elaborated on by
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poets. And that's why he says, poets were there
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before me. Actually, after this course, I feel
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like writing poetry is in the sake of writing
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poetry. This is the thing that it's up to you what
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you want to take from this poem. Actually, when we
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take some poems we like, we have different symbols
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from different perspectives. So I think this is
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the job of the poem.
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It's up to the reader what he wants to take from
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the speech. It depends. Some people believe that.
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I'm writing just for the sake of writing. It's
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like I want, there's something inside, I want to
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get it out there. I don't care what influence it's
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going to have on me or on other people. What I
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care about is, again, how, what I do. I just,
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there's something. I usually use this stupid
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example, but it's like when a mom is due, is
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pregnant, nine months, baby, and the baby has to
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get out. What happens next just has to get out. I
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don't know whether this is in a way similar to
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this situation of poets getting out poems, but not
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many people will agree that we write for the sake
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of writing or even as self-expression. Many people
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read about poets, what they say, talk to poets,
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people who write poetry. That's why I try to
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assign you to write poetry. Okay, you feel the
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need to write because I want you to, but by time I
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hope that you find yourself able to express
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yourself without having to be pushed into this by
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somebody. So again, we go back to the idea that
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Poetry could be self-expression. There's there's a
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movement called art for art's sake Why are you
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doing this? Why are you painting? Why are you
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writing this? I don't care. I just write I think
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it's It's significant for me to write. I don't
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care what influence or impact. But then there will
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be many people who will say, no, poetry is a tool
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of, like you said here, of change, of revolution,
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of resistance, of probably teaching, teaching and
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delighting. More, please.
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This universal thing about them, they touch our
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hearts. Sometimes you read a poem in a different
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foreign language and you relate. you find it
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appealing and sometimes you don't understand
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everything about like the words and you know but
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sometimes the tune helps with songs especially
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like you feel that this is wow we do this all the
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time uh i posted on the on our facebook page uh up
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the wall some sometimes something like this a poem
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and a song i was watching this show i'm not going
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to mention uh and In every episode or two, there's
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usually a song at a particular time. And I usually
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hear the song and I don't pay attention to it,
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except this one particular thing. I paused, I went
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to Google, and I Googled the song. I loved it. And
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this is what I'm talking about here. The ability
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of the poet or the poem to attract you, to say,
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stop, pause everything, wait. Pay attention to me,
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I am now everything in your life and you'll find
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it really beautiful in this way. But I know many
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of you wouldn't like to do this, wouldn't pause
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their lives, not what they're watching and just
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think what a poem would do to you. And I hope this
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course is going to make you think many times about
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this, to stop for a word, for a stanza, for a
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phrase, for a poem, for a line of verse, and
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reconsider things. See how this is going to, what
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is, what this thing is going to do to your life,
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to yourself. Please. I think, also, the Jabuh
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Dabuwat, it's not convey the message in an ordinal
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message. For example, in the political problems,
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sometimes we don't need to express our feelings
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because of the government suppression, so the
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boots sometimes use symbolic words or they express
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the meaning in indirect ways, so we can express
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our feelings That's also true. And that's
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something that makes poetry special. You could
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still express yourself in a way, in an allegorical
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way, you know, Ahmed Shawqi, Barazas Ta'ala Abu
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Yaman and those very allegorical poets. You can
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escape political persecution.
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And it's just like yesterday I was in a car with
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my dad and there was a song on the radio, it
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literally documents the whole thing. It's just a
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song that lasts for three minutes. And this is so
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powerful that we can just learn about a whole
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nation through a poem. That's true. That's true.
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One more? I also believe that poetry and like all
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literature in general has the ability to make us
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understand ourselves without So sometimes you'd be
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reading about a character and you'd say wow that
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character is horrible and then all of a sudden it
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strikes you that I do this. So it makes us realize
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how horrible people are. Like is this again
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connected to that idea Nadia raised here, the fact
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that When people are preachy, we tend to be
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defensive. You know, do, don't, do, don't, do,
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don't, do, don't. You feel exposed, true. But a
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poet has the ability, a poem has the ability to
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capture your essence and to make you realize that,
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oh my God, this is about me. This is me. I am
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Ozymandias. I am this person or that person. Okay,
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one more question. Do you trust poets? Do you
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think poets are trustworthy? they are they're not
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okay they're not they are are they or are they not
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yes or no yes no oh nice it's okay it's up to you
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so yes or no yes or no yes or no yes or no yes or
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no yes or no yes or no yes or no so most of you
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say no okay okay okay okay Now, why? Why? Please.
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What if
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you have a close friend who is a poet, would you
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still trust him? What in this person would you be
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trusting? Please.
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Okay, most of you are saying him for the poet, it
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could be a she. So would you trust him more in
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this case if this is, honestly, if you're reading
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a poem for a female poet, would you take it more
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seriously? Would you, would it? Please?
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Okay, she's like a close friend of mine. I would,
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like, I trust my friend, right?
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Okay. So what is it that you don't trust poets
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about? Briefly, yes please. In brief. So is
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it good or bad? It's bad, especially for the
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teenagers or the beginners in learning. They will
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believe what is shown in the poem, yet the poets
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are giving the answer that is more than they said.
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Okay, so what do you think? Is that bad? Because
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some people here are saying, if you tell me
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everything, preach me everything, I'm not going to
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like it. If you show me, if you do things by
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showing me, by making me think, look for the
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truth, look for the idea, it would make you part
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of the poem. Remember? So yeah, it's true. I like
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this again expression. The unsaid is usually more
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than the said. Please. I think maybe some poets
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can exaggerate the situation or their feelings. Is
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that good or bad? Don't we all do that all the
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time? Don't we exaggerate when we hate somebody,
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when we like somebody, when you... We should be,
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but we're not. Most often we're not. Yes, please.
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I think poets sometimes try to immortalize things
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and erase other things. I remember once you told
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us that before Zionism came to Palestine, they
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were preparing in prose and poetry. So the poets
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can... portray for the people what he wants. And
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Ozymandias is a great example. The reader of this
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poem, for the first time, he will be ready to
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understand, and later he will get the information
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about bad kings. Okay, so again, you're
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generalizing here. If one poet is using poetry to
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deceive and trick, does that mean we need to
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distrust all poets?
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That's very good. You need to be very careful. You
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need to be very cautious about what poets do with
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their poetry. True.
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In terms of ideas or in terms of language? In
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terms of how idealized they are
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Okay, so does this mean we tend to like realistic
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poetry more, to find ourselves, or at least trust,
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do we trust more realistic poets more?
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Okay, why wouldn't you trust, like generally
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speaking, why wouldn't you trust a poet? I think
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not all poets must be taken for granted because
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sometimes they only write poetry for the sake of
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getting some support in a way or another, whether
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financial support or social. Be careful many poets
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don't make much money these days Only if you if
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you are successful novel writer novelist you could
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do that, but short story writers Poets they don't
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make much money Okay
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Okay,
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so sometimes poets not all poets are good people
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they do bad stuff they could do would you like a
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poetry written by somebody who you don't like if
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the man the man or the woman is bad like but they
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write good poetry so to speak would you still read
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their poetry okay
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please
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The man himself. So you're trying to detach.
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There's something that this of the author, there's
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this theory that once poets, once authors, writers
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write stuff, it belongs to us, to the readers. And
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it also means that the writing is the sum of
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everything around them. It's not only them,
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because you will always be quoting inspired by
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other writers and other authors. These are very
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excellent ideas you have. Think about them and see
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how you could develop these ideas now.
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As Arabs, we have always appreciated pottery.
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Pottery has been part and parcel of our life, of
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our heritage. It's probably the most significant
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thing we had from the Arabs. In addition, you
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know, like ancient Arabs were all like 1,000, 2
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,000 years ago in addition to later on to Islam
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and the Quran and the Sunnah, right? And the only
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miracle in Islam for Prophet Muhammad was the
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Quran, because Arabs were excellent poets with
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rhetoric, with language, with words. They were the
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best of the best, how they used language and how
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they expressed themselves. Now, in the Quran,
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there's a whole surah, a whole chapter named after
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the poets as shu'ara. And again, indicating how
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significant these people are. They're not
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mentioned like we expect them to be mentioned
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because the verse says, Now this
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is significant, meaning, translate the gist that
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poets are only followed by people who don't follow
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the truth because they roam, literal translation,
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they roam in every valley. They fluctuate, they
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change. One time they're here and the other day
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they're doing the opposite. Sometime they would be
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praising this man and then next week, next month
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they would be attacking him or criticizing him.
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And this is significant because during the time of
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Prophet Muhammad there was Hassan Ibn Thabit, the
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famous poet, Prophet Muhammad kind of like brought
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him very close to him. He made him his own
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personal poet. And he even ordered him to write,
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gave him the order to write poetry against the
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people attacking, hating the Prophet Muhammad
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peace be upon him at that time. And he even, you
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know, he made him sit on a pulpit, the minbar, you
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know, And nobody else, nobody else of the
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Prophet's companions had this place because he was
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a poet. And now the interesting thing is that
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Hassan was not a warrior. He was not a fighter. We
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talk about a time when fighting was probably one
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of the most significant things, right? But writing
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poetry perhaps was even more significant. So for
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this, because poets are significant, Prophet
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Muhammad brought this man, Hassan Ibn Thabit,
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closer to him, probably closer than any of the
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other companions.
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And he gave him, he always asked him to write
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poetry, to attack, to criticize the people of
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Quraysh. And for this, this is the verse. However,
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there is always an exception, so there is no
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general blanket condemnation of poets. And look at
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what sort of poets that are praised here, illa
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alladhina aman wa amali, except, so all poets are
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bad, except those who believe and do. And some of
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you mentioned this in passing, that poets say
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stuff, but they don't do it. They are people of
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words rather than people of action. So I think
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this is one important thing that we look for in
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poets. We want poets who are probably realistic,
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like you said, connected to life, who push us to
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do new things, to break new ground, who speak our
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minds, who lead by example, but also poets who
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themselves do, they practice what they preach.
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They practice what they preach. Look at this, how
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poetry can be an act of resistance.
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I like this translation. It's like literal. Don't
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you see that in every valley there? I think in
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Arabic, in the Quran, this is one of the most
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beautiful images.
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When somebody goes into
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a place aimlessly, just walks around wandering
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aimlessly. This is what means like they could be
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going there. They just can be writing poetry, like
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you said, for no reason or for no purpose. Okay,
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so despite the fact that Hassan Ibn Thabit did not
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fight well, he wasn't a warrior, he was made
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special by Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. He
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even prayed saying that the angel Gabriel will
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support him in his defense of Allah and his
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prophet. And then I move probably an example I
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mentioned here. How poets try to bring change,
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affect change. This is a story by a famous poet
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called Jarir. And Jarir, you know Jarir. Jarir was
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a genius poet in many ways. He was famous for his
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satire. He always loved satire. Now, in one of his
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poems, he was in front of the caliph. And the
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Arabs, like we have in English literature, in the
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Renaissance literature, how the opening is
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significant, the first impression, the opening.
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That's why some people didn't like John Donne,
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because he had these rough and tough and abrupt
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openings. Death, be not proud. Spit in my face.
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Batter my heart. And all these tough openings
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here. And now, instead of opening the poem
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smoothly, sweetly, Many poets did. He was like,
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Atashu anfuqaduka ghayru sahi ashiyatahama sahbuka
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bilrawahi. Meaning, are you awake? Are you fully
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awake? Are you asleep? And now, the caliph, who
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loved pottery very much, hated this very much. How
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would you? Why would you? How dare you? So he held
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something, the ink holder, I don't know what you
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call it, and he just hit him with it. and injured
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him. So there was ink and blood all over his face,
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Jarir's face. And the man, the caliph locked away.
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He didn't like that. But Jarir knew what he was
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coming to. And then he reached a line of verse
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where he said, meaning,
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aren't you the most fearless fighters and the most
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generous people of all? And when he got to this
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line, the caliph stood, looked at him, and he
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clapped and said, bala, bala, bala, I like this.
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Now, many of us could say that this is a mistake.
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Like Jareer committed a mistake and this is true.
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It could be that he committed a mistake, but there
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is another interpretation. It could be deliberate.
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This man is a genius. He's a poet. In the sense
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that he could have done this in order to change
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things. I like poetry that subverts the authority
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of people, like people in authority, patriarchy
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and everything. Poetry that attacks these symbols
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of power, of authority, is the poetry that appeals
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to me most. And I read this here. I think Jarir,
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by doing this, is trying to do two things. Number
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one, to shake the image of the caliph. But also
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number two, to tell other poets and people that
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there are many ways to start a poem. You don't
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have to start standing on the ruins and being all
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sweet and everything. A poem can begin like this
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in a tough and rough way. And talking about
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openings, we always go to Abu Nawaz, one of my
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favorite poets. Abu Nawaz wasn't an Arab, he was a
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Persian. And sadly for this some critics didn't
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like him just for the fact that he was Persian. He
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was alcoholic and again people hated him for that.
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But remember we don't talk about the person
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himself here, we talk about the poet, the poetry.
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So this man, again, how he was changing, if not
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ideas and society and customs, changing the way
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poets would be writing. He hated very much what
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for hundreds and hundreds of years Arab poets
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would open the poems against standing on the ruins
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and remains of the beloved tribe or something. And
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I think that must have been boring for some
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people, for many people. Imagine you reading or
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listening to a poem, like a hundred poems and a
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thousand poems, all opening, standing over the
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ruins of something. So change was significant.
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Again, poets would always start with this. So he
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said, قُلّي مَن مَرَّ عَلَى رَسْمٍ دَرَسْ وَاقِفًا
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till those people who stand over the ruins of
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their... Why don't you sit down? Have a seat. Sit
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down. رجليك تعبوك تريح مادره لو كان جلس and I
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showed you some of the memes yeah I showed you
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again this is another poem another line مادره لو
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كان جلس this is that this is from Abu Nawaz all of
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it فما الوقوف على الأطلال من شأنه I am not a
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person who would stand over I don't do this I
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don't stand over ruins it's not something I do I
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like doing And لتلك أبكي و لا أبكي لمنزلتي I don't
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cry or weep over these things كانت تحل بها هند و
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أسموة I weep for something that happened, for an
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experience I don't weep over And this, listen This
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could be because again Abu Nawaz wanted to change
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the way, but I don't know. Is it because also he
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doesn't have roots in wherever he was in Iraq or
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here and there? It's like place doesn't mean much
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to him because this is not where he is from
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originally. He was born somewhere else. I don't
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know. It could be both. And I find this very
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striking. This is really extreme.
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That's really extreme. This is supplication. May
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God not have mercy on any eye that cries over the
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ruins or the remains. That's very extreme. I did
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my memes myself. I try sometimes. I love this. I
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never understood this until somebody memed this
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woman. So this woman was tasting something. You
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know sometimes you eat something that you hate
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very much, and just before you spit it out, you
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think, wait a minute, this is really different.
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You know, I have tasted this, I'm very
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adventurous, wherever I travel, I like to try the
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food. So sometimes it's like, oh my God, I want to
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spit it out. But then you just give it one moment,
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and it's like, wow, this is different, special.
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So, قُلّي مَن مَرَ عَلَى رَسْمٍ دَرَسْ وَاقِفًا،
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مَا دَرَ لَوْ جَلَسْ O'Dis Famous, like how most
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Arab poets would be قفة نبكي من ذكرى حبيبى ومنزلي
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بسقط اللوى بين دخولى فحوملى etc But then مادرة لو
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كان جلس, sit down, you don't have to stand Now
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look at Al Mutanabbi. We know Al Mutanabbi is
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perhaps some argue that he's the greatest poet of
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all times even surpassing Shakespeare and Dante
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and those great poets. It's still an opinion that
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some people have. He's no doubt the greatest Arab
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poet of all time.
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Was a special, was a poet, I'm not sure if you
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read any, if you know, like, you will be amazed
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how many of the wisdoms you know were said by Al
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-Mutanabbi. Masayabu qawmin anda qawmin fawa'id.
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It's something from Al-Mutanabbi. One man's poison
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is another man's meat. Ma li jurhin bimayitin
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ilam. I did one dozen tears. You know, most of the
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idioms, the proverbs, the expressions we know, I
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don't say most, like some of them come originally
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from Al-Mutanabi. Sha'ar Al-Hikma, I think he was
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described, the poet of wisdom, anyway. I don't
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care.
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The thing is that you need to read Al-Mutanabi,
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you have to, really. When he, he was, this man was
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looking to be, you know, appointed, you know, some
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Emir here or there. And he was, you know, keeping
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with Seif Eddaoula, and every time, like, Seif
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Eddaoula would be rejecting him, like, okay, stay
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around, write poetry for me, and that's it. So he
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left him and he went to Egypt, Kafour El Ekhshidi.
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Again, hoping that Kafour El Ekhshidi would be
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giving him what? You know, some place to rule. And
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when he went to Egypt, he was heading to Egypt, he
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wrote one of the most beautiful poems of all time.
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Again, in anticipating, preparing for the meeting
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with Kafour El Ekhshidi. He stayed there in vain.
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Kafuri Khashidi was not also willing to give him
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some place to rule or something. And he left Egypt
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heading back to Syria, and he wrote again one of
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the most fascinating poems of all time. So it's
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the same thing. You know, I'm praising this man
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and attacking him. It's not just attacking him.
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The famous poem says, I will return at any cost. I
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will return to what has been done to you to renew
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it. As for his beloved ones in the desert without
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them, He says one
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of those lines that Very memorable. He talks about
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the people there in Egypt.
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Those people stink that even when the angel of
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death takes their souls, it brings, you know, a
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stick so it doesn't touch them. It just takes
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their souls with with a stick, that's extreme. So
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when he was running away from Egypt, leaving Egypt
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behind, some people whose mother, Al-Mutanabbi,
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satirized, were coming after him and he wanted to
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run away until one of his followers One of his
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servants said, Sir, wasn't it you who said, Didn't
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you say that, I don't know, the horse, the steed,
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the knight, the desert know me, the sword, the
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spear, the paper and pen as well? Like didn't you
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say this? Didn't you praise yourself as the
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greatest of fighters?
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But he wasn't a fighter. He was a fighter in his
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own words. But because he wanted to keep his word,
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he wanted to tell people that poets are not liars,
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that poets are to be trusted. He stood and chose
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to fight rather than run away. And he knew he's
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going to be killed. And that's why he said to the
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man, You killed me. You reminded me of my own
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poetry. You made me stop and fight. I'm not a
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fighter. But because I said something, I have to
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keep my word. That's very beautiful. If you don't
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like this about the Mutanabbi, I don't know what
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else you're going to like about him. I don't know.
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Poets say stuff. Now, we move to Mahmoud Samil
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Baroudi, one of the poets of like, I don't know
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when he lived exactly, but like 150 years ago or
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so. Arab poetry was in really steep decline until
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Mahmoud Samuel Baroudi came with the Renaissance
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or whatever, the modern Renaissance movement of
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Arabic poetry, the classical Arabic poetry. This
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man was a fighter and he was also a poet. That's
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why he was described as the lord of the sword and
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the pen. Rabb al-saif wal-qalam. Again, you see
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what I'm doing here. It's trying to connect how
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words and deeds are usually there with poets. And
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it's probably these poets that we like more,
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because they practice what they preach rather than
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just... And we go to another example from
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Palestinian culture and poetry, Abd al-Rahim
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Mahmoud. Do you know Abd al-Rahim Mahmoud? Again,
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he was a great fighter. He was a Palestinian
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feday, commando, and he was also a great poet. In
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his poem, famous poem, سأحمل روحي على راحتي We all
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know this by heart و ألقي بها في مهاورة فإما حياته
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تسر الصديق و إما ماته يغيظ العدى I'll carry my
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soul on the palm of my hand and throw it to the
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abyss of death It's either a life that pleases a
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friend or friends or death that teases and spites
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the enemy or something Now what makes this special
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is that Mahmoud Darwish died defending his land,
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died fighting the Zionist occupation of Palestine.
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He died a fighter. He said something. He preached
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us something. Probably these words come to life.
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He comes to life every time we read this. He
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showed us what to do, what to say, and how to do
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it. And I'm not sure what other Palestinian poets
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you like, but for many Mahmoud Darwish usually
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comes on top of the list. So this is some kind of
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translation. Now I'll again fast forward to Tamim
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al-Barghouti. We mentioned Tamim very, very many
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00:40:50,980 --> 00:40:56,260
times. We studied a poem by Tamim. Again, for many
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00:40:56,260 --> 00:41:02,730
people, Tamim is The hope we have that we'll
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00:41:02,730 --> 00:41:05,830
always have great people, great thinkers, great
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00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:11,730
poets to look up to. For many people, the fact
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00:41:11,730 --> 00:41:15,070
that Tamim is usually writing anti-occupation
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00:41:15,070 --> 00:41:17,560
poetry, resistance poetry, makes him special. but
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also he appeals to many of us to, he's not only a
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Palestinian poet or an Egyptian poet, he's also
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00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,420
now a global poet, a poet that would address
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00:41:27,420 --> 00:41:30,920
almost all issues around the Arab world,
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especially with the Arab Spring and everything.
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Probably the fact that he is young and he was very
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much involved in the Arab Spring is significant.
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Now I remember when the Arab Spring started in
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Egypt, the very next day, Tamim was on Al-Jazeera
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00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,860
reciting one of his poems, This poem
647
00:41:53,860 --> 00:41:57,040
is beautiful poem. And a friend of mine called me
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and he said, your friend Tamim, he's not my
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friend, I just like him. Your friend Tamim will be
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00:42:03,140 --> 00:42:05,840
thrown behind the sun. You know the expression,
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how Arab regimes would exile critics behind the
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sun. And I said, Because my friend wanted, you
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know, we know many people usually when things
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about to change are very careful what to say, what
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not to say, what to do and what not to do because
656
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we're not sure who's going to come out victorious.
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So we wait. But this is what ordinary people do.
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This is what you and I do. We just wait. So we're
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careful not to be persecuted here or there. But
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great people, great poets want to lead the change
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like Reem said there. So the fact that he was
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there, one of the early people to support the
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uprising, the Arab Spring, it means a lot to his
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poetry and to his name and to what he was doing.
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He's just not a poet like Marah who suggested that
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they would usually say something and the other day
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00:43:01,030 --> 00:43:04,070
say the very opposite of something. So the fact
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that he was there early in the days calling for
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people to come out, to rise, makes him also a
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special poet. Now, Even if you don't do, if you
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don't practice what you preach, sometimes, again,
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your words are enough. You don't have to be a
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poet. Remember we said something about children,
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that words were saying that child is the father of
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man and something like this. Children don't have
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to do anything to influence us, to change us,
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right? They just have to be there with their crazy
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stuff.
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These are two poets, Palestinian poets. They're
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not fighters. They didn't fight. They didn't carry
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guns or stones or whatever. They just wrote
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poetry. And still for that, the Israeli occupation
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looked at them in the way Israeli occupation looks
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at Palestinians. Moshi Dayan is reported to have
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said about Fadwa Tokan, he's a war criminal, he
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likened her reading one of her poems to facing 20
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enemy commanders, fighters. So one poem by Fadwa
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Tokan was viewed by this Israeli war criminal as
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20 fighters. So words, so is it again, I find it
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difficult sometimes to separate words from deeds,
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what you do, because what you say can easily
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influence and incite others. You use the term
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incite and prompt others to resist. The same thing
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happened to Darien Tatour like just three, four
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years ago. Darien Tatour is a Palestinian poet who
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was sent to prison by Israel for writing poetry.
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Again, under the fake accusation of incitement.
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And she spent a lot of time in prison, and she
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remained for a long time under house arrest. If
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this doesn't show us how significant poetry is, I
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don't know what does.
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Now going back to our friends here, Wordsworth and
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Shiree. Many of you like Chile, listen you could
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like something in the poet and not like something
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else. Again I don't talk about the poet as the
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man, I talk about what they say, his poetry. You
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could like this poem but not that poem and that's
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okay. Now Wordsworth is accused by many people as
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the poet, an escapist poet. Some people would make
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fun of him and accuse him of being a tree hugger,
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you know, he would just be leaving the sins and
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the corruptions of the city and you know all the
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social and political decay behind and just close
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your eyes. Imagine in the past when you were a
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child and life was good. Life was innocent. Life
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was beautiful. Or leave everything behind and go
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to nature, to the bosom of nature and just do it.
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I find this unfair sometimes.
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Three-hugger is too much, I shouldn't be using
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this, but I could say that he's an escapist. Some
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radicals might even accuse him of being complicit,
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because if you're silent, you know the sentence,
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the statement, if you're silent in times of
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injustice, you're complicit. Especially if you're
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special, if you're a poet, you should be speaking
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out loud, loud and clear against injustices, like
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we've seen with William Blake. But again, that's
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00:46:37,180 --> 00:46:41,400
the difference. William Blake was a Londoner. Now,
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for many people, the fact that William Wordsworth
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was calling for some kind of revolution in poetry
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and words and language is enough. Because for
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them, without Wordsworth, we wouldn't have had
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Chile. He paved the way, he started it. It was
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Wordsworth, it was Coleridge who started this
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whole great movement of radical change in terms of
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language and poetry and also in terms of ideas and
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probably political ideas. And by the way, during
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his lifetime, There were many files that were
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declassified later on. You know, we're talking
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about the times and age of revolutions, the
741
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American Revolution, the Industrial Revolution,
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but also the French Revolution. And England was
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like literally shaking because they were afraid
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another revolution is going to take care in
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England, to take place in England. So the British
746
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intelligence was spying on both Wordsworth and
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Coleridge. And they were like, you can look up the
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information and the reports those spies were
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writing about Korea. And I don't know, I don't
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know how they reacted when they were like, oh my
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God, those people keep going to Lake District and
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staying in this cottage. I'm not sure what they're
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planning, what they're going to do. So they would
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be sending somebody to listen and, I don't know,
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Wordsworth would be saying, I wandered lonely as a
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cloud. And if he, was he this, was this man or the
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intelligence, like, were they trying to decipher
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this, to, you know, to decode it? Is this a symbol
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of something? I wandered lonely as what? Is this,
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does this, I don't know. But this is something
761
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else. So you could criticize Wordsworth for not
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being at least as radical as we want a poet to be,
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but don't forget what he did in itself was a
764
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revolution, a revolution that changed people's
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mentalities and people's sensibilities and
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people's way of viewing the world, of writing
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about the world. But Chile is a different man.
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Chile was openly, and by the way, what we like
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about Chile is something that many people don't
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like about Chile. They say he was clear, he was
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open. So he was like a political preacher saying
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us, okay rise, go start up a revolution. I don't
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think this is a very simplistic view of Chile. But
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Chile, in many of his poems, was openly calling
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for a revolution, to rise up. And I'm quoting
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something here just for the sake of... In the
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films of poetry, and I say by Chile, he says,
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poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the
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world. They are the law, you know, members of the
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parliament, the lawmakers, that's legislators. The
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legislative council here, Palestinian Legislative
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Council. So poets, They are the leaders, they are
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the lawmakers of the society, but they are
784
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unofficial. And also it was him who criticized,
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harshly criticized the society, the British
786
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society as being a society where the rich get
787
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richer and the poor get poorer. And all to the
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west wind. I'm just taking extracts here. Look at
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how he says destroy, he's calling for change,
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destroyer and preserver. This is the wind, the
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wind of change, I don't know, revolution. It
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destroys, but it should also, it destroys to
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build. Here or here. He's also here, drive my dead
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thoughts to quicken a new birth. And also if you
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look there in the bottom here, the trumpet of a
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prophecy, oh wind, if winter comes, can spring be
797
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far behind? If winter comes, can spring be far
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behind? In The Mask of Anarchy, I mentioned
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earlier about the massacre of Manchester when the
800
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British police shot dead many protesters. Again,
801
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that's a very beautiful long poem where he openly
802
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calls for this. And this is again beautiful. I
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don't know why some people just don't like Chile
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for being very obvious. Men of England, heirs of
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glory Heroes of unwritten story Nurslings of one
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mighty mother Hopes of hair and one another Rise
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like lions after slumber Wake up like lions when
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they wake up after sleep Slumber is sleep You know
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slumber party when you go to somebody's place and
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have fun and sleep there Rise like lions after
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slumber In unvanquishable number Shake your chains
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to earth like dew, which in sleep had fallen on
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you. Ye are many, they are few. People are many,
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the police are few.
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Okay, before I go back to Ozymandias, I want you
816
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to say something if you have to say something,
817
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,400
please. Comment on something. Comment on what I
818
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,060
said. Probably we can have time for that, for
819
00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:54,780
parodies. Please. Describing William Myers' work
820
00:51:54,780 --> 00:52:00,240
as being not a Londoner as a play, this reminds me
821
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of the poet that said, I think that this Arab
822
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poet, he tried to... He's an outsider, you mean?
823
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,680
Exactly. Maybe these two can be related. Yes, we
824
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do not accept this, but we accept this.
825
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If you are an outsider, you don't feel, but again,
826
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you are a poet, you have to be special. Even if
827
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you're not there, you have, even Wordsworth said
828
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this, the extra comprehensive sensibility that
829
00:52:32,490 --> 00:52:35,570
poets own that other people don't. And it doesn't
830
00:52:35,570 --> 00:52:38,170
mean he didn't know what was going on in London
831
00:52:38,170 --> 00:52:44,630
and around the UK at that time. Please. Actually,
832
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:49,390
I love both Wordsworth and Shelley, and at least
833
00:52:49,390 --> 00:52:53,490
people call Wordsworth an escapist, but at least
834
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Wordsworth as a man was true to himself, he didn't
835
00:52:56,070 --> 00:52:58,410
pretend to be something he was not. Is Shelley
836
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pretending something he was not? Shelly had so
837
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many ideas that he expressed in his poetry, but as
838
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a person, he never put them into action. Do you
839
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know that the second generation of the Romantics
840
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were very young, even died young? Chile and Keats
841
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and Byron, all of them. They were jinxed. And you
842
00:53:25,330 --> 00:53:30,270
might not know this. When Wordsworth and Coleridge
843
00:53:30,270 --> 00:53:32,710
were writing poetry, they were not born yet. They
844
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:35,230
were born, they wrote poetry, they died, and
845
00:53:35,230 --> 00:53:39,270
Wordsworth didn't want to die. He became like this
846
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patriarchal figure. Please read what Byron says
847
00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:43,130
about Wordsworth and Coleridge.
848
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He attacks them openly in his poetry.
849
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You know who's which romantic poet was More active
850
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,180
in his life than others than just being a romantic
851
00:54:12,180 --> 00:54:18,290
and lying there Do you know it was Byron? Byron
852
00:54:18,290 --> 00:54:20,170
was always a fighter. He was fighting against the
853
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Ottoman Empire somewhere in Cyprus, I guess.
854
00:54:28,050 --> 00:54:32,530
Chile was rich. Chile was also rich. Chile was
855
00:54:32,530 --> 00:54:37,980
rich. Okay, so three years ago, three years ago,
856
00:54:39,940 --> 00:54:41,560
you know, when we talk about Ozymandias, going
857
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,520
back to Ozymandias and Ramses II, when we talk
858
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,180
about pharaohs in Egypt, those great pharaohs had
859
00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:53,180
many statues for them, just not one. So the poem
860
00:54:53,180 --> 00:54:56,760
talks about one of these things. And I found this,
861
00:55:00,380 --> 00:55:05,340
Like this is very moving. Like the statue of
862
00:55:05,340 --> 00:55:09,660
Ozymandias, Ramses II, in many ways like
863
00:55:09,660 --> 00:55:12,160
described, I'm not sure if he was talking about
864
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,420
this very one or something else, but look at this.
865
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,940
Ozymandias, king of kings. Look on my works
866
00:55:20,940 --> 00:55:25,440
submerged in sewage and despair or not. Okay, look
867
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:31,460
at how Wow. Imagine yourself 5,000 years ago
868
00:55:31,460 --> 00:55:36,260
stepping on there, climbing and stepping on this
869
00:55:36,260 --> 00:55:40,880
man's. It is huge. Yeah, of course. Now this is in
870
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:41,720
reality the man.
871
00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:49,180
Remember the text says the hand, the thread, and
872
00:55:49,180 --> 00:55:54,040
the heart, that something, and how this sculptor
873
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,580
will read these passions.
874
00:55:59,030 --> 00:56:02,050
So the traveler was telling the speaker and the
875
00:56:02,050 --> 00:56:05,410
poet, the poet, that the sculpture is a perfect
876
00:56:05,410 --> 00:56:08,870
representation of? Of Ozymandias. Of Ozymandias.
877
00:56:09,330 --> 00:56:11,530
It's perfect. But look at this. This is really
878
00:56:11,530 --> 00:56:13,770
like in many ways very symmetrical, very well
879
00:56:13,770 --> 00:56:17,350
engineered, very well done, right? It's perfect.
880
00:56:17,410 --> 00:56:20,170
Look at the eyes, the ears, the nose. Very
881
00:56:20,170 --> 00:56:21,950
symmetrical. Everything is perfect. Where's the
882
00:56:21,950 --> 00:56:25,350
crown? Maybe some, some, some other
883
00:56:29,170 --> 00:56:33,810
This is Stone Cold. In reality, this is
884
00:56:33,810 --> 00:56:35,790
Ozymandias. I love this because this is some kind
885
00:56:35,790 --> 00:56:38,530
of reconstruction. This is his mummy. I don't
886
00:56:38,530 --> 00:56:41,510
think this in any way is similar to this.
887
00:56:46,510 --> 00:56:50,150
He was one of the greatest pharaohs in ancient
888
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:50,930
Egyptian history.
889
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:57,250
I don't know what this brings to mind other than
890
00:56:57,250 --> 00:56:57,670
nightmares.
891
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:06,160
But in no way this looks like this Probably it's
892
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:13,940
similar in a bit in a way I don't know And
893
00:57:13,940 --> 00:57:22,560
then this one Compare the almost real picture to
894
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:28,590
the sculpture I'll come back to this in a bit. Now
895
00:57:28,590 --> 00:57:30,750
going back to the text so we can wrap things up.
896
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:33,210
Remember I told you this is a, we mentioned this
897
00:57:33,210 --> 00:57:36,590
in passing, but I want to repeat things so we have
898
00:57:36,590 --> 00:57:37,410
confirmation.
899
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,920
I said that this could be read in many ways. There
900
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,180
is an American critic, M.H. Abrams, who drew this.
901
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,400
He said there are four main categories. Almost all
902
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,200
literary theories can be categorized under these
903
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,620
four parts. But he doesn't draw a square, he does
904
00:57:57,620 --> 00:58:00,780
a triangle. He says there are theories that
905
00:58:00,780 --> 00:58:02,700
examine the text, the relationship between the
906
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:05,590
text and the world, the universe. There are
907
00:58:05,590 --> 00:58:08,090
theories that examine the relationship between the
908
00:58:08,090 --> 00:58:13,510
text and the writer, the poet. Expressive, this is
909
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:16,770
mimetic theories, you know, my missus is my
910
00:58:16,770 --> 00:58:23,590
missus. This is expressive theories. And there are
911
00:58:23,590 --> 00:58:25,690
theories that study the relationship between the
912
00:58:25,690 --> 00:58:31,630
text and the reader, the audience. What is the
913
00:58:31,630 --> 00:58:36,250
fourth category? Thank you very much. The theories
914
00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:39,030
that examine the text, the relationship, like what
915
00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:43,790
we have, the words on the page. We are involved in
916
00:58:43,790 --> 00:58:47,010
a process of close reading of the text. This is M
917
00:58:47,010 --> 00:58:51,290
.H. Abrams, mimetic theories, the relationship
918
00:58:51,290 --> 00:58:53,350
between the text and the world, the universe, how
919
00:58:53,350 --> 00:58:56,210
close the representation is. And then the
920
00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:59,370
expressive theories, basically the romantic theory
921
00:58:59,370 --> 00:59:03,040
here, how poetry is self-expression. and how the
922
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,020
poet and the poem are one, inseparable. And then
923
00:59:07,020 --> 00:59:09,480
the pragmatic theories, the didactic theories,
924
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,420
where poetry is written to teach and delight. So
925
00:59:12,420 --> 00:59:15,060
you examine the relationship between, you examine
926
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the impact the text has on the reader, the
927
00:59:18,540 --> 00:59:20,520
audience. And then finally, the objective
928
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,840
theories, usually this is 20th century theories,
929
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like new criticism and even structuralism,
930
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formalism, and deconstruction, et cetera.
931
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,720
Objective theories, They say the text is self
932
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-enclosed, autonomous, independent of the
933
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:41,820
surrounding, even the social circumstances and the
934
00:59:41,820 --> 00:59:44,940
life of the author. The meaning of the text is in
935
00:59:44,940 --> 00:59:48,040
the text. All you need to do is to look at the
936
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words on the page, to do a close reading, to
937
00:59:50,580 --> 00:59:53,200
examine the form, the shape, the structure, the
938
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,160
language, the literary devices, the ironies, the
939
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,300
puns, the ambiguity, the paradoxes, and if you
940
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:01,120
understand this, if you see the binary opposites,
941
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you get the tension, you understand the poem.
942
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Okay? So if we go back to the text, like we did
943
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last time, New criticism, new critic, this is what
944
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,200
we usually do. We focus more on what the text
945
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,740
tells us without the, so this thing, remember we
946
01:00:21,740 --> 01:00:25,640
said that the sonnet here, the poem is a sonnet.
947
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We describe this sonnet as, thank you very much,
948
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some kind of a formless sonnet in the sense that
949
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:38,060
it doesn't have a regular rhyme scheme.
950
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Even the rhyme scheme itself here has like three
951
01:00:44,090 --> 01:00:47,750
imperfect rhymes. It doesn't have clear structure
952
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in terms of octaves, sextets, couplets. You don't
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01:00:53,310 --> 01:00:57,070
know where things go, where things end. Now
954
01:00:57,070 --> 01:01:01,670
usually we need to make this observation for us to
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01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:04,330
ask a very significant question. Why is this? In
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order to look for the meaning. Why is this there?
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Why does the poet not follow Shakespeare or
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Petrarch? This is the kind of question I would be
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01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:22,690
asking you in your exams. You should be aware of
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01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:26,650
that. So I might ask you, why doesn't Chalet
961
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follow the Shakespearean sonnet or the Petrarchan
962
01:01:33,810 --> 01:01:37,900
sonnet or both? I could be more specific. In this
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01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:39,920
case, this question is a little bit general. I
964
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want you to zoom in for the specific point. I want
965
01:01:42,500 --> 01:01:44,380
you to start the answer, your topic sentence
966
01:01:44,380 --> 01:01:49,440
saying that Shelley uses a formless and irregular
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01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:54,200
sonnet. First, you need to show me where it is,
968
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why, how it is irregular. And second, you need to
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01:01:58,220 --> 01:02:02,940
connect this with the theme of the topic. So in
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01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:05,780
many ways, what do we have inside the poem? What
971
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we have inside the poem is ruins, remains, wreck,
972
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right? We have something that's shattered and
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broken. We have the remains of something. So in
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many ways, I see that he is echoing this. He's
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echoing this as if he's saying we don't Arabs,
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Africans, we don't deserve a perfect sonnet.
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So when the poem is about decline of authority,
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decline of about the, I usually like to use this
979
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term because there is less, trunkless, lifeless,
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three lesses, right? And boundless, and also
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rhymeless, formless, so it's about less, lessness.
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about decay, about destructiveness, about
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transience of time. This is a romantic theme in
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many ways.
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01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:02,300
The second thing we need to look at is, we
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mentioned the rhymes, sorry, the puns here, the
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01:03:05,140 --> 01:03:09,400
possible puns in lies. The shuttered visage, lies.
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01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,540
Lies there is sitting there, lying around, but
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01:03:13,540 --> 01:03:16,160
also lies not telling the truth. So the facial
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01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,440
expressions are lying to us. And also mock which
991
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,780
has two meanings, mock to imitate, to copy and
992
01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:27,540
mock to ridicule, to make fun of. But look at how
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01:03:27,540 --> 01:03:29,960
beautiful this is, how this changes because time
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01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,600
changes. At that time mock meant only mock
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01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,970
imitate. He imitated the facial expressions, these
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01:03:36,970 --> 01:03:40,350
passions perfectly. But now that it is broken,
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01:03:40,570 --> 01:03:45,410
destroyed, shattered, half sunk and nothing but
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01:03:45,410 --> 01:03:48,670
decay and desert and sands around, this means
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01:03:48,670 --> 01:03:52,920
mocking may make fun, make fun of. Now the most
1000
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,360
significant thing, probably one of the most
1001
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,160
significant ironies in English poetry is, my name
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01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,040
is Isamandias, king of kings. Look on my works, ye
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mighty and ye and. When we look, what do we find?
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01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,600
It's ironic because it says, I am king of kings,
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01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:09,560
but in reality, look at him. He's no king, he's
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01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:14,540
nothing. Even the greatest of us will die also.
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01:04:15,950 --> 01:04:19,250
But I also want you to think of how now, for
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01:04:19,250 --> 01:04:22,790
example, when all sculptures have been fixed and
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01:04:22,790 --> 01:04:27,630
rebuilt by scientists in the past century. So it
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01:04:27,630 --> 01:04:31,630
was all standing and powerful and then it was
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01:04:31,630 --> 01:04:35,230
destroyed and now it's going back to. So I think
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01:04:35,230 --> 01:04:38,810
this changes the way we react to this. Imagine
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01:04:38,810 --> 01:04:41,870
yourself living in the time of Ozymandias and
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01:04:41,870 --> 01:04:45,600
passing by this. you would be shaking, right?
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01:04:45,700 --> 01:04:48,840
You'd be like, oh, because it is intimidating.
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01:04:49,020 --> 01:04:53,500
This was a sign he's even calling us to despair.
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01:04:55,020 --> 01:04:58,460
Not his
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01:04:58,460 --> 01:05:01,400
people, the mighty, like some suggested that this
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01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,780
could be a call for the enemies, look, you can't
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01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:06,100
defeat us, which changes many things about him.
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01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:11,580
Now, both the irony and the puns create ambiguity.
1022
01:05:13,230 --> 01:05:16,110
Create a paradox here. Does he mean this? Does he
1023
01:05:16,110 --> 01:05:18,550
mean that? What does it mean? Does it mean lying?
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01:05:18,770 --> 01:05:20,230
Does it mean just sitting there?
1025
01:05:23,210 --> 01:05:26,330
Now analyzing this is what a new critic would be
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01:05:26,330 --> 01:05:27,210
doing.
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01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:32,250
Remember we said post-colonialism with Edward
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01:05:32,250 --> 01:05:38,130
Said, another post-colonial would be interested on
1029
01:05:38,130 --> 01:05:42,470
how the text is constructing the idea, the image
1030
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:47,050
of the other, us. People of the Middle East, Asia,
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01:05:47,450 --> 01:05:51,150
and Africa, and India, and probably the Caribbean,
1032
01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:53,790
South America, like people who are not European,
1033
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:56,830
white, et cetera. I love this statement by Edward
1034
01:05:56,830 --> 01:06:01,130
Said from Orientalism. The Orient, us, shock, has
1035
01:06:01,130 --> 01:06:04,370
helped to define Europe or the West as its
1036
01:06:05,710 --> 01:06:07,830
contrasting image. We always want something to
1037
01:06:07,830 --> 01:06:09,850
compare to so we understand where we're lying.
1038
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,320
Contrasting image, idea, personality, experience,
1039
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,280
et cetera. So we were significant because if we
1040
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,700
are backward, they are advanced. If we are
1041
01:06:18,700 --> 01:06:22,720
inferior, they are superior. If we are savages,
1042
01:06:22,860 --> 01:06:26,100
uncivilized, they are civilized. And there's this
1043
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:30,220
thing about the white man, the moral obligation to
1044
01:06:30,220 --> 01:06:32,720
come here and to civilize us. Yes, to take all our
1045
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,060
gold and raw materials and everything, but it's
1046
01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:38,400
their job to come. It's their moral obligation to
1047
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,010
come and to civilize us. So Edward Said would be
1048
01:06:42,010 --> 01:06:44,710
questioning how he's constructing this idea, this
1049
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:46,570
negative idea about the Middle East, leaving
1050
01:06:46,570 --> 01:06:50,010
everything and focusing on how the sand, the
1051
01:06:50,010 --> 01:06:52,530
desert, the antique, the shattered, how he
1052
01:06:52,530 --> 01:06:56,150
presents Arabs as or Africans as people who weep
1053
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:59,010
over the spilled milk. We are invested in the
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01:06:59,010 --> 01:07:02,310
past. We're not invested in the present or even in
1055
01:07:02,310 --> 01:07:05,870
the future. I also find two things interesting.
1056
01:07:07,220 --> 01:07:10,620
How did this traveler get there? We don't know.
1057
01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:13,660
We're not told. How did he understand the
1058
01:07:13,660 --> 01:07:16,720
inscription written in ancient Egyptian language?
1059
01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:20,560
My assumption is that there must be a guide and a
1060
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,240
translator or one person who did this thing. But
1061
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,980
what is he doing to them, to the locals? He's
1062
01:07:26,980 --> 01:07:30,270
erasing them. They don't exist. They don't exist,
1063
01:07:30,370 --> 01:07:34,570
exactly like what Zionist poetry literature did to
1064
01:07:34,570 --> 01:07:36,750
Palestine and Palestinians. Palestinians never
1065
01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:39,690
existed. It's a land without a people waiting for
1066
01:07:39,690 --> 01:07:41,690
a people without a land. And when Palestinians
1067
01:07:41,690 --> 01:07:45,270
exist there, they're savages. They're uncivilized.
1068
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:49,150
And I also find it interesting because I'm sure
1069
01:07:49,150 --> 01:07:52,250
some of you want to be translators. Sadly,
1070
01:07:52,410 --> 01:07:54,550
translators don't take a lot of credit. They're
1071
01:07:54,550 --> 01:07:57,050
usually erased. If you do a great job, usually
1072
01:07:57,050 --> 01:07:59,810
people don't care about you. If you just make one
1073
01:07:59,810 --> 01:08:03,350
tiny little mistake, you have to pay for that.
1074
01:08:06,330 --> 01:08:10,150
Okay, look at the feminist reading here. And this
1075
01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:15,460
can be seen as overstretching by some of you. Now
1076
01:08:15,460 --> 01:08:18,260
there's this book I'm taking this from that says
1077
01:08:18,260 --> 01:08:24,340
women have been traditionally taught to read as
1078
01:08:24,340 --> 01:08:28,480
men. And I find this very interesting because
1079
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:32,080
every class, you yourselves, when I asked you
1080
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,200
about the people last time, you spoke about the
1081
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,720
traveler, the sculptor, and the poet as he, he,
1082
01:08:36,820 --> 01:08:39,200
he. So you assume that these are all men. So women
1083
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,250
are erased. There are no women. Some of you might
1084
01:08:42,250 --> 01:08:44,790
say, but does that mean this is anti-feminism or
1085
01:08:44,790 --> 01:08:47,730
women are underrepresented? It does. Imagine a
1086
01:08:47,730 --> 01:08:50,990
text, if the text has seven characters, seven
1087
01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:52,670
people and all the people are women, the first
1088
01:08:52,670 --> 01:08:55,050
question people will ask, why are all the women?
1089
01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:57,810
Why don't we ask the same question about texts
1090
01:08:57,810 --> 01:09:02,790
that is overwhelmed, dominated by men? because we
1091
01:09:02,790 --> 01:09:06,070
are trained sadly to read as men. We should change
1092
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:09,730
this. So women should begin to liberate themselves
1093
01:09:09,730 --> 01:09:12,650
from the notion of universal reader because the
1094
01:09:12,650 --> 01:09:15,790
universal reader is usually assumed to be a man.
1095
01:09:16,090 --> 01:09:18,970
So how might reading as a woman be different? You
1096
01:09:18,970 --> 01:09:22,150
will pay attention to things. You will look at
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01:09:22,150 --> 01:09:25,570
this as something that is a world dominated by
1098
01:09:25,570 --> 01:09:28,930
men, that women have no place here. It doesn't
1099
01:09:28,930 --> 01:09:30,710
mean Chile is anti-feminist, that's another
1100
01:09:30,710 --> 01:09:33,730
question, you need to examine more poems to judge
1101
01:09:33,730 --> 01:09:37,970
this. But it could be Chile saying something else,
1102
01:09:38,090 --> 01:09:42,990
something different, like how A society, how he
1103
01:09:42,990 --> 01:09:48,010
is, how Ozymanias symbolizes patriarchy. The man
1104
01:09:48,010 --> 01:09:51,570
-made rules, the man-controlled society. How men
1105
01:09:51,570 --> 01:09:54,070
control everything and that's the end of, this is
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01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:57,450
where men lead us to. To decay, to arrogance, to
1107
01:09:57,450 --> 01:10:00,610
hubris, to weeping over spilt milk, over the past.
1108
01:10:01,030 --> 01:10:03,790
And it's time for women to take place, to do
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01:10:03,790 --> 01:10:07,030
something, to change this. Think about this, you
1110
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:09,030
don't have to agree with me, with this reading,
1111
01:10:09,390 --> 01:10:11,590
but think about this, because there's this, always
1112
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:14,310
please, think about how we have always been
1113
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:17,090
trained and even most of you here, if you paid
1114
01:10:17,090 --> 01:10:19,790
attention, when you talk about the poet, you say
1115
01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:22,410
he, even when some of you talk about the reader,
1116
01:10:22,610 --> 01:10:26,120
you say he. Why would you assume that the reader
1117
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:32,880
is a he? The poet is a he. Okay, so I'll stop
1118
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,720
here, but before if you have any question, any
1119
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,620
point to raise, please do. Okay, thank you very
1120
01:10:39,620 --> 01:10:42,160
much. If you have a question, you can stay behind
1121
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,140
or you can rush back to your other classes.