1 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,820 Okay, good morning everybody. Yes, today as you 2 00:00:18,820 --> 00:00:24,300 see, we are going to see William Blake poems, 3 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,780 I mean Blake's poems, The Sick Rose and The Tiger. 4 00:00:28,690 --> 00:00:31,610 But today's class is going to be concentrated on 5 00:00:31,610 --> 00:00:32,810 the psychrose. 6 00:00:37,010 --> 00:00:39,550 As usual, at the beginning, I would be very 7 00:00:39,550 --> 00:00:44,790 interested in listening to one or two reports. 8 00:00:45,370 --> 00:00:48,710 Then I would see your response to both poems. 9 00:00:49,730 --> 00:00:53,470 After that, we're going together to discuss the 10 00:00:53,470 --> 00:00:59,190 psychrose, which is very short, but very polemic, 11 00:00:59,590 --> 00:01:05,370 very ambiguous, okay? So let's see who's going to 12 00:01:05,370 --> 00:01:07,430 report. Yes, Layla? 13 00:01:12,710 --> 00:01:16,050 Rainy day. Last lecture I was absent because of 14 00:01:16,050 --> 00:01:20,190 the last rainy day. The water falls all the street 15 00:01:20,190 --> 00:01:22,870 and the wiper of the cars was very busy working. 16 00:01:23,410 --> 00:01:28,370 So the streets were flooded, huh? Also at half 17 00:01:28,370 --> 00:01:31,010 past eight and nine o'clock, it was running 18 00:01:31,010 --> 00:01:33,570 blindly. As a result, I can't came to the 19 00:01:33,570 --> 00:01:37,690 university. I couldn't come. Yeah. Okay. But I 20 00:01:37,690 --> 00:01:40,470 watched the lecture on the video chat. Last 21 00:01:40,470 --> 00:01:43,490 lecture was an introduction of the Romantic Age, 22 00:01:43,690 --> 00:01:45,810 especially William Plague, who is the leader of 23 00:01:45,810 --> 00:01:50,050 the Romantic poetry, who criticized the Industrial 24 00:01:50,050 --> 00:01:53,030 Revolution, which is very bad to the English 25 00:01:53,030 --> 00:01:57,250 society. at that time, which described the nature 26 00:01:57,250 --> 00:02:00,510 as the source of the imagination of the romantic 27 00:02:00,510 --> 00:02:03,930 poets according to his perspective. So I expect 28 00:02:03,930 --> 00:02:08,430 that in the next lecture, it will be a sad poem as 29 00:02:08,430 --> 00:02:12,710 an aim to express his experience. Okay, thank you. 30 00:02:12,850 --> 00:02:16,490 I know it was rainy day, and it was difficult for 31 00:02:16,490 --> 00:02:21,200 students to make it, I mean, to come. So having 32 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,940 the videotape was, you know, okay, a little bit 33 00:02:25,940 --> 00:02:30,660 helpful, even though we wished everybody to have 34 00:02:30,660 --> 00:02:32,900 come. Yes, Ola? 35 00:02:41,060 --> 00:02:46,860 Sorry. Come here. Since it was romanticism it 36 00:02:46,860 --> 00:02:49,120 should have been a tranquil day, yet in this 37 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,140 university there is no tranquility, passion or 38 00:02:52,140 --> 00:02:55,640 even individualism. All we have is tension, 39 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:58,920 reason, mind, working groups and lots of exams and 40 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:01,460 assignments, so unfortunately romanticism will 41 00:03:01,460 --> 00:03:05,360 never be applied on the pros nor the verse of this 42 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,100 university. Okay, this is a complaint, you know, 43 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,860 but in fact, the fact you are protesting, this is 44 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:20,040 a romantic. Because, you know, as we said, you 45 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,840 know, romanticism is a protest movement. It's a 46 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,060 protest against restrictions. It's a protest 47 00:03:29,060 --> 00:03:33,520 against repression. It's a protest against the 48 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,550 denial of individualism. The individual voice. But 49 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:40,670 I'm not like, I don't know what ground you are 50 00:03:40,670 --> 00:03:43,730 having for complaining. So you need like to make 51 00:03:43,730 --> 00:03:49,970 yourself clear. Okay. Good. Assuming that you have 52 00:03:49,970 --> 00:03:55,890 read the two poems, you must, I think you must 53 00:03:55,890 --> 00:03:59,830 have a good response. A good written response. 54 00:04:00,570 --> 00:04:04,080 Whose having a good written response, and you can 55 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,100 boast of it. Yes, please. 56 00:04:11,380 --> 00:04:15,040 Which one to start, the tiger or the squirrel? I 57 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:20,670 don't know. You come just here. Okay. Passing 58 00:04:20,670 --> 00:04:23,090 question without an answer for the creation 59 00:04:23,090 --> 00:04:25,970 process of the tiger. Is the tiger the dark side 60 00:04:25,970 --> 00:04:29,210 of the human soul with its desire to control? Why 61 00:04:29,210 --> 00:04:32,610 the tiger emerges in the night? When the stars 62 00:04:32,610 --> 00:04:36,350 cast their lights? God who is responsible for good 63 00:04:36,350 --> 00:04:39,310 and innocence at the same time who inserts evil 64 00:04:39,310 --> 00:04:43,010 and violence. But sometimes contradiction creates 65 00:04:43,010 --> 00:04:46,850 completion. If the tiger wasn't found, innocent 66 00:04:46,850 --> 00:04:49,790 the lamb wouldn't sound. Oh, very good. So you 67 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:52,830 made it poetic. Yeah. Good. What about the sick 68 00:04:52,830 --> 00:04:56,650 rose? William Blake tried to confirm that the rose 69 00:04:56,650 --> 00:05:00,650 is sick because of a worm. The rose was sick and 70 00:05:00,650 --> 00:05:03,690 miserable, but the worm was invisible. The poem is 71 00:05:03,690 --> 00:05:05,930 a description of love, beauty, and corruption, 72 00:05:06,450 --> 00:05:08,730 about the innocence and destruction. Too many 73 00:05:08,730 --> 00:05:11,470 interpretations, and I can't wait for an 74 00:05:11,470 --> 00:05:15,400 explanation. Wow, good, thank you very much. So I 75 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,040 like your response because it's following 76 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,260 questions that hopefully we find answers to in 77 00:05:21,260 --> 00:05:26,120 this class. Now, do you have like, guess? 78 00:05:33,260 --> 00:05:37,160 My response about the tiger. You come here, you 79 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,910 come here. It's the first impression, always 80 00:05:39,910 --> 00:05:42,550 right. In The Tiger, William Blake uses stone 81 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:45,970 theme symbols and rhyme to make the point that 82 00:05:45,970 --> 00:05:48,410 there are two sides to everything. If you come 83 00:05:48,410 --> 00:05:50,570 face to face with a tiger, you would probably be 84 00:05:50,570 --> 00:05:53,330 afraid. But if you put your fear aside, you would 85 00:05:53,330 --> 00:05:56,970 probably notice how beautiful the tiger is. Very 86 00:05:56,970 --> 00:06:00,310 good. I like this twist because it shows how the 87 00:06:00,310 --> 00:06:02,910 tiger has the beautiful side as well as the 88 00:06:02,910 --> 00:06:06,870 horrible side. And this is a very essential point 89 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:12,330 to the interpretation of Blake's poetry. Blake 90 00:06:12,330 --> 00:06:14,710 uses particular words to make the tone of fear in 91 00:06:14,710 --> 00:06:17,530 this poem. And also, in my opinion, he uses a 92 00:06:17,530 --> 00:06:20,250 tiger to show that things have two sides, ugliness 93 00:06:20,250 --> 00:06:22,930 and beauty, fear and courage, evil and God. By 94 00:06:22,930 --> 00:06:24,850 looking deeper, we can see that there are two 95 00:06:24,850 --> 00:06:27,430 sides to everything. So the theme of this poem 96 00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:30,590 seems to be about the existence of evil in all the 97 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:34,610 creation. What about goodness? Because you started 98 00:06:34,610 --> 00:06:38,170 by saying everything has two sides. So evil and 99 00:06:38,170 --> 00:06:42,270 goodness are there. I think, you know, without 100 00:06:42,270 --> 00:06:44,850 evil there is no goodness. Can you say this? 101 00:06:45,250 --> 00:06:47,510 Without evil there is no goodness? Yes. Of course, 102 00:06:47,590 --> 00:06:49,990 yes. Okay, good. Also the poem requires deeper 103 00:06:49,990 --> 00:06:52,370 understanding from the reader. I think the poem to 104 00:06:52,370 --> 00:06:54,870 me is beautiful, not only because it's melodic, 105 00:06:55,150 --> 00:06:57,770 but because it's ironic. It starts by 106 00:06:57,770 --> 00:06:59,190 questioning... I don't know what you mean by 107 00:06:59,190 --> 00:07:03,530 melodic. Do we have any melody in it? I think 108 00:07:03,530 --> 00:07:06,150 there is a... Yeah, I don't know. We have like to 109 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:08,970 go through the meter. Oh Rose, they were sick. 110 00:07:09,210 --> 00:07:13,630 Yes. The invisible worm. I don't know what is the 111 00:07:13,630 --> 00:07:17,650 melody. But okay, let's see, you know, you might 112 00:07:17,650 --> 00:07:22,150 be right if we discover the melody of the Spondee 113 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:26,450 or the Iambic because, you know, this poem has, 114 00:07:26,890 --> 00:07:29,190 it's very strange because, you know, the main 115 00:07:29,190 --> 00:07:33,950 meter is Spondee, you know, too unstressed than 116 00:07:33,950 --> 00:07:39,310 stressed, but you have variation. it starts off by 117 00:07:39,310 --> 00:07:42,150 questioning how could be so power as to make 118 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:46,610 something so perfectly so perfectly then as as the 119 00:07:46,610 --> 00:07:50,570 poem goes on it leads you into wonder what what 120 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:53,990 power would make something so picturesque you mean 121 00:07:53,990 --> 00:07:56,910 you're talking about the the tiger which is 122 00:07:56,910 --> 00:08:00,290 melodic oh okay so it is very melodious you're 123 00:08:00,290 --> 00:08:06,020 right that's it Good. So I would be satisfied now 124 00:08:06,020 --> 00:08:10,040 in like receiving your oral response. Yes. What do 125 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,020 you want to say? Okay. What do you want to say 126 00:08:13,020 --> 00:08:16,940 about the sick rose? Do you want to tell me why? 127 00:08:17,060 --> 00:08:23,740 Why was the rose sick? Because the rose is sick 128 00:08:23,740 --> 00:08:25,660 because of the endorphin. 129 00:08:31,830 --> 00:08:33,570 the Industrial Revolution and the corruption? 130 00:08:34,410 --> 00:08:41,950 Like, how do you know that? So you weren't like to 131 00:08:41,950 --> 00:08:47,950 read something about it? And okay, so if we say, I 132 00:08:47,950 --> 00:08:49,950 just like, it's a good point to start with, 133 00:08:50,370 --> 00:08:52,550 because, you know, you are very clever. You 134 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:55,870 started by interpreting. I know, because this poem 135 00:08:55,870 --> 00:09:01,350 is ambiguous. Now, you just start to interpret. 136 00:09:03,230 --> 00:09:06,970 And you jump to the conclusion that the invisible 137 00:09:06,970 --> 00:09:10,510 worm is the industrial revolution. And the rose is 138 00:09:10,510 --> 00:09:18,670 what? Nature. Okay, nature or worm. And these are 139 00:09:18,670 --> 00:09:24,410 what the critics said. Okay, but let's see how 140 00:09:24,410 --> 00:09:26,350 nature is abused 141 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:35,190 They think that nature can be abused? Yes, please. 142 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:39,610 I shouldn't have told you. 143 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,380 No, we're talking about like, you know, you know, 144 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,940 we're talking first about nature. So my question 145 00:09:51,940 --> 00:09:57,160 is, how can nature be abused by, you know, the 146 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,380 industrial revolution? Yes or no? 147 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,400 Pollution. Yeah. Because mechanization means 148 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,020 pollution. Mechanization means like what? 149 00:10:15,430 --> 00:10:21,810 Pollution. Mechanization means noise. So like the 150 00:10:21,810 --> 00:10:24,110 countryside is going to lose its serenity. 151 00:10:24,930 --> 00:10:28,510 Mechanization means like the nature of the simple 152 00:10:28,510 --> 00:10:32,290 life or the simple countryside. People will be 153 00:10:32,290 --> 00:10:35,690 transformed like because people will be working in 154 00:10:35,690 --> 00:10:39,370 factories. So the social structure will be 155 00:10:39,370 --> 00:10:45,050 changing. People will be moving away from cities, 156 00:10:45,310 --> 00:10:49,410 from the countryside to live around the factories. 157 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:55,030 So their social life will be changed. Behavior 158 00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:55,790 pollution. 159 00:10:58,970 --> 00:11:00,790 Okay, I don't know what you mean by behavior 160 00:11:00,790 --> 00:11:10,330 pollution, but it's good Yeah, 161 00:11:12,810 --> 00:11:16,610 you know So 162 00:11:16,610 --> 00:11:19,710 they want to say like they are becoming more 163 00:11:19,710 --> 00:11:24,010 materialistic Okay Yes, thank you very much. Yes 164 00:11:24,380 --> 00:11:27,180 Yeah, like we said earlier, the romantic culture 165 00:11:27,180 --> 00:11:29,660 came as a protest. And here, like Blake, he's 166 00:11:29,660 --> 00:11:32,300 showing his protest to the change that happened to 167 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:35,560 nature. He was satisfied before he wanted to go 168 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:38,800 back to the nature side and only to like 169 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,020 tranquility and serenity. But at the same time 170 00:11:42,020 --> 00:11:46,000 here, he's got the machine coming to invade their 171 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,780 their beauty of the nature, it's coming to invade 172 00:11:49,780 --> 00:11:52,120 their privacy, the quietness, the atmosphere, 173 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,980 everything has turned into smoke, into noise. So 174 00:11:55,980 --> 00:11:58,480 you think this interpretation is very appealing? 175 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,400 One interpretation. One interpretation, because, 176 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,000 you know, when we are talking about symbolism, 177 00:12:03,220 --> 00:12:06,260 like, we should not be satisfied with a single 178 00:12:06,260 --> 00:12:09,320 interpretation, otherwise, the symbol will lose 179 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,820 its force. So, okay, I'm very happy, like, you 180 00:12:12,820 --> 00:12:17,600 start by, like, interpreting the poem, but As you 181 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,420 know, we said it's very important to read the poem 182 00:12:20,420 --> 00:12:25,680 aloud. And did you have or did you give yourself 183 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:31,740 the chance to read this poem aloud? Okay. Do you 184 00:12:31,740 --> 00:12:37,060 have anything about Blake to say? Okay. Yes. Who 185 00:12:37,060 --> 00:12:42,600 read it aloud? Who read it aloud? Yes? How did it 186 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,020 sound to you? It sounds crazy. 187 00:12:47,050 --> 00:12:50,250 Very... Very sad. What do you mean by that? Sad? 188 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:54,010 No, I found it very tough. Very tough? Yeah, I 189 00:12:54,010 --> 00:12:57,530 found it very weird, strange. Like it's not like 190 00:12:57,530 --> 00:13:01,570 how a normal poem would be. Yeah, what do you mean 191 00:13:01,570 --> 00:13:05,510 by that? It was very destructive. There's a lot of 192 00:13:05,510 --> 00:13:09,330 destruction in the poem. From the way I felt it 193 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:14,340 didn't rhyme, it didn't... Yeah, I think it has 194 00:13:14,340 --> 00:13:17,580 rhyme. Come on. Not much. Like, if you look here, 195 00:13:18,340 --> 00:13:22,700 you have worm and storm. You have joy and destroy. 196 00:13:22,940 --> 00:13:25,100 I don't know. I felt like the meter was really 197 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:28,360 weird. No, the meter was weird. Oros, you know, 198 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:33,220 this is like too, you know, stressed. This is like 199 00:13:33,220 --> 00:13:38,080 what we call, you know, spondee, you know. And 200 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,540 then they are sick, you know. They are sick and it 201 00:13:41,540 --> 00:13:47,130 is you know, another meter, you know? So, but 202 00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:50,610 here, yeah, there is a meter in the poem, but it's 203 00:13:50,610 --> 00:13:53,250 not regular meter. Weird. Weird. Okay, we can talk 204 00:13:53,250 --> 00:13:57,970 about this later. From the first line, O Rose, I 205 00:13:57,970 --> 00:14:00,170 think there's a third declaration. I'm going to 206 00:14:00,170 --> 00:14:01,970 die, I'm going to kill you. So I expected 207 00:14:01,970 --> 00:14:06,570 something... O Rose. Like, O Rose. Like he, is he 208 00:14:06,570 --> 00:14:10,870 what, calling? O Rose. This is what we call in 209 00:14:10,870 --> 00:14:16,270 poetry, You know, his calling for, this is what we 210 00:14:16,270 --> 00:14:19,630 call apostrophe. Apostrophe. You know what is 211 00:14:19,630 --> 00:14:25,310 apostrophe? Like somebody calling, you know? To 212 00:14:25,310 --> 00:14:30,870 call, it is apostrophe. Yes. Apostrophe means 213 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:32,890 calling. Let me write it here. 214 00:14:38,430 --> 00:14:42,130 It starts with apostrophe, like calling. Good. 215 00:14:45,910 --> 00:14:50,530 Yes. How many of you have tried to read it aloud? 216 00:14:51,370 --> 00:14:56,590 One? Two? Very bad. I told you, like, do not 217 00:14:56,590 --> 00:14:58,670 respond to the poem without reading it aloud 218 00:14:58,670 --> 00:15:00,010 several times. 219 00:15:02,850 --> 00:15:08,230 Does anybody want to read it aloud for us? Uh-huh. 220 00:15:10,290 --> 00:15:14,430 Yes. You just come here and look at the poem here. 221 00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:20,440 Huh? No, you come here. Or you want to stand here, 222 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,500 but I prefer like here. You come. 223 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,800 Oh Rose, thou art sick, the invisible worm, that 224 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,400 flies in the night in the howling storm, has found 225 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,080 out thy bed of crimson joy, and his dark secret 226 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,260 love does thy life destroy. Very good, thank you. 227 00:15:44,780 --> 00:15:48,920 Does anybody want to read it differently? To give 228 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,300 it more force, more passion? 229 00:15:52,980 --> 00:16:00,640 Nobody? Do you want me to read it? Okay. Oh Rose, 230 00:16:01,940 --> 00:16:06,700 they were sick. The invisible worm that flies at 231 00:16:06,700 --> 00:16:14,200 night in the howling storm. has found out thy bed 232 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:20,940 of a crimson joy, and his dark secret love does 233 00:16:20,940 --> 00:16:22,560 thy life destroy. 234 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:29,700 You know? So I would read it like this way. Very 235 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:34,740 sad. Passionate. Yeah, and at the same time 236 00:16:34,740 --> 00:16:37,540 passionate. Do you like it? Why? 237 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,460 Disappointing. Why disappointing? I don't like the 238 00:16:45,460 --> 00:16:47,340 sad atmosphere. 239 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,100 Yeah, you don't like the sad atmosphere. You want 240 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:55,140 like the festive atmosphere. But like, you know, 241 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,640 in life there should be sadness and happiness, you 242 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:04,740 know. I think, you know, Blake here, yes, he 243 00:17:04,740 --> 00:17:13,870 depicts to us a very sad image of a dying rose, a 244 00:17:13,870 --> 00:17:20,430 sick rose. So, O Rose, thou art sick. It's a 245 00:17:20,430 --> 00:17:23,510 declaration. It's apostrophe, you know? Thou art 246 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:27,630 sick. He's declaring that the rose is sick. What 247 00:17:27,630 --> 00:17:34,570 makes it sick? It is the invisible worm. The 248 00:17:34,570 --> 00:17:36,590 invisible worm. 249 00:17:43,390 --> 00:17:47,110 So, that flies in the night in the howling storm 250 00:17:47,110 --> 00:17:52,350 has found out thy bed of crimson joy, and does his 251 00:17:52,350 --> 00:17:55,770 dark secret love, sorry, and his dark secret love 252 00:17:55,770 --> 00:18:00,950 does thy life destroy. So you started by your 253 00:18:00,950 --> 00:18:05,410 response thinking that the rose, you know, it 254 00:18:05,410 --> 00:18:10,680 stands for the countryside. And the, you know, the 255 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:16,940 worm stands for? The industrial revolution. Okay. 256 00:18:18,020 --> 00:18:21,600 What other interpretation do you have for this? I 257 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,560 think this one applies to like what we studied in 258 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,740 criticism to the reader response theory. I think 259 00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:31,620 it's relatable, like any reader would relate to 260 00:18:31,620 --> 00:18:34,620 this and interpret it according to their own 261 00:18:34,620 --> 00:18:37,060 problem. For example, if you say you've got 262 00:18:37,060 --> 00:18:39,420 something going really good and something really 263 00:18:39,420 --> 00:18:42,620 screws it up, then you can apply this. I think it 264 00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:45,080 has a lot of interpretations and it depends on. 265 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,980 It's very good. Now, if we are looking at William 266 00:18:50,980 --> 00:18:55,140 Blake, he is giving space to the reader and that 267 00:18:55,140 --> 00:18:59,290 was not the norm. like in the 18th century. So 268 00:18:59,290 --> 00:19:02,890 he's giving us place and space to imagine. So 269 00:19:02,890 --> 00:19:05,510 there is a place for imagination here, to imagine 270 00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:09,150 the ramification, the implication of the symbol 271 00:19:09,150 --> 00:19:15,690 itself. Okay. But I don't know how is the question 272 00:19:15,690 --> 00:19:18,810 which I want to ask, how is the rose made sick? 273 00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:23,690 How is the rose made sick? 274 00:19:30,430 --> 00:19:33,710 It's like an attack, like the invisible war. It's 275 00:19:33,710 --> 00:19:37,250 like an inside attack. So it's attacking it, it's 276 00:19:37,250 --> 00:19:41,170 eating it? I'm not sure, but in my opinion, I 277 00:19:41,170 --> 00:19:45,690 think the rose was sick because of the people who 278 00:19:45,690 --> 00:19:50,870 were busy working in the factory. So they are not 279 00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:55,650 finding the time to take care of the rose. So 280 00:19:55,650 --> 00:19:59,790 let's take the literal meaning. The rose is sick. 281 00:20:00,770 --> 00:20:04,890 Because of the invisible worm. It's being eaten 282 00:20:04,890 --> 00:20:07,570 up. Yeah, it's being eaten up. This is one 283 00:20:07,570 --> 00:20:15,430 possibility. Or the worm itself is carrying a 284 00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:20,530 disease itself, the virus. So these are two 285 00:20:20,530 --> 00:20:28,790 possibilities. Or else thou art sick, thou. Why do 286 00:20:28,790 --> 00:20:33,310 we use thou? When do we use thou? O Rose, thou art 287 00:20:33,310 --> 00:20:36,450 sick. What is the significance of using thou in 288 00:20:36,450 --> 00:20:40,450 this poem? Of course here, what figure of speech 289 00:20:40,450 --> 00:20:45,810 do we have? What figure of speech? It is 290 00:20:45,810 --> 00:20:51,910 personification. O Rose, thou art sick. But why 291 00:20:51,910 --> 00:20:52,330 thou? 292 00:20:57,590 --> 00:21:00,470 Yeah, he wants us to gain sympathy. So like, the 293 00:21:00,470 --> 00:21:05,990 rose is being glorified. The rose is being 294 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:12,070 something as valuable. Oh rose, thou art sick. 295 00:21:13,470 --> 00:21:20,550 He's, you know, celebrating, glorifying the rose. 296 00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:26,810 The invisible worm, the invisible worm. 297 00:21:30,820 --> 00:21:35,900 The invisible worm that 298 00:21:35,900 --> 00:21:43,400 flies in the night in the howling storm has found 299 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:48,620 out thy bed of crimson joy. I don't know. Do you 300 00:21:48,620 --> 00:21:53,800 see, like, do you think that this worm is 301 00:21:53,800 --> 00:22:00,790 invisible? Do you think it is invisible? What is a 302 00:22:00,790 --> 00:22:06,730 worm? What is a worm? It's an insect. But do you 303 00:22:06,730 --> 00:22:08,690 think this worm is invisible? 304 00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:16,510 Does, you know, the word invisible literally mean 305 00:22:16,510 --> 00:22:17,910 that it is not seen? 306 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:26,100 like small and people doesn't notice it. So they 307 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:29,800 don't give it so much attention. So to people, it 308 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,040 would be invisible. But in reality, it is like- It 309 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:38,000 is visible. Invisible. It is invisible. Yeah. What 310 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,540 do you mean by that? Invisible and- It is visible 311 00:22:40,540 --> 00:22:44,180 and invisible. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you mean by 312 00:22:44,180 --> 00:22:46,920 invisible and visible? And it is there. Yeah. 313 00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:50,840 There is a worm. You know, it has a shape. You 314 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,040 know, it has, you know, a shape like, but it is 315 00:22:55,040 --> 00:23:00,020 invisible. How? People do not notice it. It 316 00:23:00,020 --> 00:23:03,500 becomes, you know, it comes like abruptly. It 317 00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:06,900 comes like it steals snakes, you know, in this way 318 00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:10,060 and nobody feels that it is coming. You know, 319 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:12,860 there is secrecy in it. Yes. 320 00:23:16,510 --> 00:23:20,750 of the potential emotion of the factors, but they 321 00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:26,590 are not aware of the harmful results of this acid. 322 00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:31,210 So there is no awareness. Right, thank you. Yes, 323 00:23:31,310 --> 00:23:35,510 please. It is invisible, but when it attacks the 324 00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:43,470 rose, it becomes visible. It's visible, but it's 325 00:23:43,470 --> 00:23:45,030 not visible when it attacks. 326 00:23:57,450 --> 00:24:00,730 It's very important when you interpret this to 327 00:24:00,730 --> 00:24:06,510 demonstrate, to give examples of how sometimes we 328 00:24:06,510 --> 00:24:09,330 are taken by the materialistic aspect to the 329 00:24:09,330 --> 00:24:16,410 extent that we destroy our life. How? And this is 330 00:24:16,410 --> 00:24:21,070 invisible. The materialistic life might 331 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,580 you know, take us away from, let's say, 332 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,880 performing, you know, spirituality. And then we, 333 00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:36,780 you know, so it is seemingly it is beautiful, 334 00:24:37,020 --> 00:24:40,180 seemingly it is good. But, you know, the dark side 335 00:24:40,180 --> 00:24:43,540 is there, you know, because you are losing, you're 336 00:24:43,540 --> 00:24:46,600 gaining on one side, but you are losing on the 337 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,860 other side. It's very cryptic poem, very symbolic 338 00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:55,680 poem. It's very short, but the paradox is it is 339 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,260 very complex. This is the paradox. Very short, but 340 00:24:59,260 --> 00:25:08,180 very complex. The invisible worm that flies in the 341 00:25:08,180 --> 00:25:14,760 night, in the howling storm. So look here, O Rose, 342 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,820 thou art sick. When he talked about the rose, this 343 00:25:16,820 --> 00:25:21,450 one sentence. But when he was talking about the, 344 00:25:21,710 --> 00:25:26,290 you know, if we look at the grammar here, like the 345 00:25:26,290 --> 00:25:29,470 invisible, it's an adjective, which is what we 346 00:25:29,470 --> 00:25:33,690 call attributive adjective. It's an adjective 347 00:25:33,690 --> 00:25:40,410 which describes what comes after it. It is, you 348 00:25:40,410 --> 00:25:44,830 know, it is followed by what? The invisible worm 349 00:25:44,830 --> 00:25:48,850 that flies in the night? What is, what is this? 350 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,620 It's more description. What do we call these 351 00:25:52,620 --> 00:25:58,740 clues? It's adjective clues. So it seems like this 352 00:25:58,740 --> 00:26:04,360 worm is mysterious. 353 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,020 It needs definition. Like the poet is striving to 354 00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:14,680 define this. To say, what is it? So look here, it 355 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,150 is invisible. You know, you don't feel it. It is 356 00:26:19,150 --> 00:26:23,230 there. This is very dangerous. It is there, but 357 00:26:23,230 --> 00:26:26,470 you are not aware of its presence, the time of its 358 00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:32,210 coming, because it sneaks, you know, when? At 359 00:26:32,210 --> 00:26:35,830 night? In the darkness? And it comes, it is 360 00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:41,390 accompanied by what? By the howling storm. So what 361 00:26:41,390 --> 00:26:45,270 is the howling storm like? Can anybody, like, make 362 00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:50,410 like a storm? Huh? So it should be like what? Very 363 00:26:50,410 --> 00:26:54,630 noisy. It should be like this. Roaring. Very 364 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:59,550 distracting. But how does it sound? Roaring? I 365 00:26:59,550 --> 00:27:04,790 think howling it would be like this. You know, 366 00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:09,350 this is like the howling storm. At night, it's 367 00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:12,570 like this. Imagine yourself, it is darkness, there 368 00:27:12,570 --> 00:27:14,990 is no electricity, like what is happening in Gaza. 369 00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:18,550 You know? And it is dark in your room, you don't 370 00:27:18,550 --> 00:27:23,030 have a candle, and outside it makes like this. You 371 00:27:23,030 --> 00:27:28,830 know, it's very frightening. It is. But howling 372 00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:35,330 here, what figure of speech it is? Onomatopoeia. 373 00:27:35,530 --> 00:27:38,970 Yeah, onomatopoeia. Because the word is taking... 374 00:27:38,970 --> 00:27:45,250 Look here, how this invisible worm is wrapped by 375 00:27:45,250 --> 00:27:50,450 an atmosphere of secrecy. It is very secretive, 376 00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:53,770 you know, and it is accompanied by dangerous 377 00:27:53,770 --> 00:27:58,650 things. It is night, it is invisible, you know, 378 00:27:58,830 --> 00:28:02,910 and it comes with, you know, this, this, yeah, 379 00:28:03,470 --> 00:28:11,790 this sound. Has found out thy bed. Now, so like 380 00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:20,260 finding out the bed Is it an act which is a mere 381 00:28:20,260 --> 00:28:24,540 coincidence? Or is it more deliberate? 382 00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:34,400 Finding out the bit, is it deliberate or 383 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:40,460 coincidental? Is it by chance? No. How do you 384 00:28:40,460 --> 00:28:45,880 know? has found out it means like she was 385 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:51,340 searching it means that you know this what is 386 00:28:51,340 --> 00:28:55,500 happening to the rose is something happening with 387 00:28:55,500 --> 00:29:00,900 pre-determination this is a legal term sometimes 388 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:04,060 when you say a crime took place with it is a 389 00:29:04,060 --> 00:29:09,400 premeditated crime you know it means like yeah it 390 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:17,850 was planned before premeditated, good. Has found 391 00:29:17,850 --> 00:29:25,170 out they're bad. They're bad. Of course, like this 392 00:29:25,170 --> 00:29:28,430 poem, understanding the literal meaning is not 393 00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:35,030 difficult. Now, what we might need later to think 394 00:29:35,030 --> 00:29:40,250 of, what is this stone? What is the bed? What is 395 00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:44,980 the rose? What does this stand for? There are many 396 00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:48,740 possible interpretations. So, and this is like 397 00:29:48,740 --> 00:29:55,660 what Blake is giving us. Blake is writing, is 398 00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:58,020 presenting to us poetry which invites us to 399 00:29:58,020 --> 00:30:01,600 imagine. And that was something against the 400 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,260 expectation of his time. That's why they described 401 00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:09,180 him mad because he was appealing to ourselves. He 402 00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:11,740 was appealing to our feelings. He was appealing to 403 00:30:11,740 --> 00:30:17,600 our emotion and imagination. So he was writing 404 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,560 against the fashion, against, you know, the 405 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,680 teachings, the culture of his time. That's why he 406 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,360 was dangerous. That's why he was crazy, you know, 407 00:30:29,380 --> 00:30:37,160 and he was marginalized by society. ostracized has 408 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,800 found out thy bed still keeps look the same level 409 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:48,340 of veneration thou and thy you know thy bed of a 410 00:30:48,340 --> 00:30:54,980 crimson joy what what is crimson joy like crimson 411 00:30:54,980 --> 00:31:03,530 joy yeah but like crimson joy Like sometimes we 412 00:31:03,530 --> 00:31:08,510 have something... Yeah, crimson joy. Crimson is a 413 00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:12,350 color, you know? But crimson sometimes we say 414 00:31:12,350 --> 00:31:18,190 crimson fever. Crimson fever. Which is very fatal, 415 00:31:18,390 --> 00:31:24,530 you know? Crimson fever. So crimson joy seems to 416 00:31:24,530 --> 00:31:31,560 be contradictory. Crimson is something fatal. But 417 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,940 joy is something beautiful. 418 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,020 Crimson joy. It is oxymoron. Thank you. It is 419 00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:46,000 oxymoron. Now again, this is one of the things 420 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,860 which might need effort from us to interpret it. 421 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,820 But let us, because I think at the beginning of 422 00:31:55,820 --> 00:31:59,820 the course, we tried to flatten some paradoxes and 423 00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:04,480 oxymorons. And, you know, Crimson Joy here is 424 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,120 problematic in this poem. But what is Crimson Joy 425 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:15,380 like? Like, can we give an example of Crimson Joy 426 00:32:15,380 --> 00:32:16,480 in our life? 427 00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:25,940 It's difficult, huh? 428 00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:36,070 Okay, we'll talk about this later, but let's see 429 00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:39,690 what is crimson joy. Crimson, painful joy. Painful 430 00:32:39,690 --> 00:32:44,130 joy. This is what I want to say. Is there painful, 431 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:49,930 agonizing joy? Imagine, you know, imagine a lady 432 00:32:49,930 --> 00:32:54,570 is giving birth to a baby. Don't you think this is 433 00:32:54,570 --> 00:32:59,090 a crimson joy? It is. Those at Eid when you say 434 00:32:59,090 --> 00:33:04,510 the Jews are killed because of the joy. It's a 435 00:33:04,510 --> 00:33:07,410 crimson joy. Yeah, very good. Like when you see 436 00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:11,550 balls are slaughtered, you know, sometimes in a 437 00:33:11,550 --> 00:33:13,570 hideous manner because you know some people do not 438 00:33:13,570 --> 00:33:18,570 know how to slaughter. So it's a crimson joy. I 439 00:33:18,570 --> 00:33:22,930 remember when we took this room with Miss Ahlam, 440 00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:31,970 Yeah, now I mean, yes. 441 00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:39,850 Yeah, but crimson, 442 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:46,830 it is painful joy. It is painful joy. Now, and 443 00:33:46,830 --> 00:33:50,410 this is like a central axomarum, you know, how joy 444 00:33:50,410 --> 00:33:55,270 is painful. You know, sometimes like, you know, 445 00:33:56,650 --> 00:34:03,580 Satan, decorates for us, you know, bad things. 446 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,520 Decorates for us. So for example, stealing or 447 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,120 cheating. You know, you cheat and you succeed, you 448 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,260 know, you get high marks, but this is crimson joy. 449 00:34:16,340 --> 00:34:20,400 You know, you feel sorry. You feel sorry. You see 450 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:25,320 what I mean? Yes, you feel sorry for this. It's a 451 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,700 crimson joy. It's not like good. Yes, you 452 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:33,260 succeeded, but deep down at your hearts, you don't 453 00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:36,880 feel, you know, the real happiness because you 454 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,560 don't feel the real joy. It's a crimson joy. Do 455 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,240 you know what I mean? Sometimes, you know, Satan 456 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:47,420 decorates the bad things for us as beautiful 457 00:34:47,420 --> 00:34:50,300 things. This is like an example of crimson joy. 458 00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:56,720 Yeah. Very good. This is a good example. So 459 00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:02,720 imagine like a mother of a murderer or the 460 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:06,920 murderer himself, the one who is sacrificing his 461 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,420 life for the sake of his country. It's a crimson 462 00:35:11,420 --> 00:35:16,540 joy. It's a painful joy. Why? Because he's happy 463 00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:21,280 because he sacrificed his life for the sake of his 464 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,300 country to defend his people. 465 00:35:26,380 --> 00:35:30,660 So it's not limited, you know, to one. And we need 466 00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:35,300 to exert effort to interpret this. To interpret 467 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:41,460 this. I'm trying to raise your awareness about the 468 00:35:41,460 --> 00:35:45,480 cryptic elements of this poem in order to further 469 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,340 interpret it next time. Because next time, we're 470 00:35:48,340 --> 00:35:51,180 going to interpret it more and more to see 471 00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:54,280 different interpretations of this woman. 472 00:35:57,790 --> 00:36:01,430 And his dark secret love. Like look here, when he 473 00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:07,610 talks about the worm, he says his. But when he 474 00:36:07,610 --> 00:36:14,170 talks about the rose, so thou. So we have 475 00:36:14,170 --> 00:36:18,190 different attitudes here. An attitude of respect 476 00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:24,350 and veneration and an attitude of let's say 477 00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:29,890 disrespect. and attitude of disparagement. You 478 00:36:29,890 --> 00:36:34,670 know what's mean disparagement? So he's not happy 479 00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:40,510 with it. And his dark secret love. Now this is 480 00:36:40,510 --> 00:36:46,090 problematic. Now dark secret love. We know that 481 00:36:46,090 --> 00:36:51,650 love is not dark. Yeah, it's secret, but you know, 482 00:36:51,830 --> 00:36:56,940 dark secret. This seems like it is Contradictory, 483 00:36:57,860 --> 00:37:02,360 you know? How come, like, dark secret love? Again, 484 00:37:02,380 --> 00:37:07,640 we have to think. In what way can love be dark? In 485 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,420 what way can love be fatal? Because the common 486 00:37:11,420 --> 00:37:14,880 sense, a perception of love is, you know, it's 487 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,880 good. It's constructive. However, here, and his 488 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,560 dark secret love. What is dark secret love? 489 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:31,920 Prohibited. Prohibited. Good. Betrayal. Betrayal. 490 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,860 What do you mean by betrayal? Love. Love would 491 00:37:35,860 --> 00:37:39,900 harm someone else. It would not be right to love 492 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:42,640 someone else. You know, hypocrisy, you want to 493 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,440 say. Hypocrisy. Hypocrisy because in hypocrisy, 494 00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:50,640 people try to show that they love. Infidelity. 495 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,330 Infidelity, thank you. Hypocrisy is an example of 496 00:37:56,330 --> 00:38:01,490 dark secret love. You see what I mean? You show 497 00:38:01,490 --> 00:38:07,930 love for people, for other people, for people, for 498 00:38:07,930 --> 00:38:11,750 other creatures, but this is not a real love. It 499 00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:19,070 is just a means to an end. It is very deceiving. 500 00:38:21,820 --> 00:38:25,520 And sometimes in our life, we have this kind of 501 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,740 dark secret love. We try to show that we respect, 502 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,700 we venerate, we love, but in fact, we are not. You 503 00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:35,560 see what I mean? It's very deceptive. 504 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:43,680 But can you give me an example of dark secret 505 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,360 love? It's love itself, but it is dark, it is 506 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:48,940 destructive. 507 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,780 Yes? When you love someone and you don't want 508 00:38:55,780 --> 00:39:00,880 anyone to be very close to him, so you will just 509 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:07,160 put him in a prison and you will be with him. This 510 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,400 will be distracted love. So yes, when you love and 511 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,560 you want to monopolize this love, because when you 512 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,450 monopolize this love, It means you're imprisoning, 513 00:39:20,530 --> 00:39:24,730 you're not giving this person a chance to interact 514 00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:29,090 with other people, so he develops into a very 515 00:39:29,090 --> 00:39:33,310 dependent personality. I think you're right. 516 00:39:33,610 --> 00:39:37,010 Sometimes we commit a fatal mistake if you go to 517 00:39:37,010 --> 00:39:41,270 psychology and education. Sometimes if we love our 518 00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:44,370 children too much, we destroy them, we spoil them. 519 00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:50,820 And a lot of cases in which like children were 520 00:39:50,820 --> 00:39:53,520 given freedom, 521 00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:59,240 their parents spoiled them. What happened when 522 00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:02,960 those people were spoiled? They were not, you 523 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,060 know, able to depend on themselves. They don't 524 00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:10,360 have a personality. They develop into like 525 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:19,220 different in, you know, not just dependent human 526 00:40:19,220 --> 00:40:24,080 beings, like they cannot, you know, find their 527 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:32,120 niche in society. You see what I mean? So it seems 528 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,560 like this poem is very interesting, very short. 529 00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:43,650 and very mysterious. What I want you is to try to 530 00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:47,610 find some more interpretation. The rose could be 531 00:40:47,610 --> 00:40:53,670 what? Could be a teacher, or the worm could be a 532 00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:59,170 student, or vice versa. Yeah. How can a teacher be 533 00:40:59,170 --> 00:41:03,930 a rose, and how can the students be the worm, or 534 00:41:03,930 --> 00:41:08,280 vice versa? Yes, a man and a woman. 535 00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:15,880 You know, friends. The Industrial Revolution and 536 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,620 the, you know. So we have many interpretations. 537 00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:22,160 Next time we're going to go deeper into this poem, 538 00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:24,940 interpreting it, and to go to the aesthetics of 539 00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:27,860 this poem, okay? Thank you very much, and see you 540 00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:28,320 next time.