1 00:00:08,980 --> 00:00:14,640 Good morning everybody. Okay, it's my pleasure to 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:20,830 have you for the second poetry class. And as you 3 00:00:20,830 --> 00:00:25,350 see, today we're having here the class in this 4 00:00:25,350 --> 00:00:28,810 comfortable place, which I think is very suitable 5 00:00:28,810 --> 00:00:34,730 for a poetry class. As the norms of each class, I 6 00:00:34,730 --> 00:00:40,970 would like first to start by having your daily 7 00:00:40,970 --> 00:00:45,330 report. So I need one student to come here and to 8 00:00:45,330 --> 00:00:50,260 deliver her daily report. Today, I'm asking who is 9 00:00:50,260 --> 00:00:53,320 going to volunteer. Next time, I'm going to pick 10 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,540 out randomly. Okay? Good. Please come here. 11 00:01:01,660 --> 00:01:02,900 You can come here. 12 00:01:07,580 --> 00:01:10,740 For the bells were rung, for the songs were sung, 13 00:01:11,260 --> 00:01:14,140 poetry class was announced to be open. Since the 14 00:01:14,140 --> 00:01:17,020 class was crowded and the apprehension was 15 00:01:17,020 --> 00:01:19,920 founded, everyone's compliment was raised as 16 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,400 often. As some poetic terms have been implicated, 17 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,080 formatting demands to be updated, the abstracted 18 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,040 ears will be no more taken. From having 19 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,760 definitions and the elements of aesthetics shared 20 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,160 and the figures of speech were asked to be 21 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,920 prepared to the video tape our class would be 22 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,680 chosen. To those who are concerned about the 23 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,060 matter of marks, you will have your test while 24 00:01:44,060 --> 00:01:46,740 having some snacks. You will have it done even you 25 00:01:46,740 --> 00:01:52,040 have no pen. OK. I think this is very amazing. 26 00:01:52,820 --> 00:01:57,640 It's nice to have such a report in poetic form. 27 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,940 And this shows how some of you, right from the 28 00:02:02,940 --> 00:02:07,320 very beginning, are interested in poetry. And this 29 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:14,220 personally thrills me. So good. I don't want to 30 00:02:14,220 --> 00:02:17,040 ask for another report. Later, as I told you, I 31 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,340 might pick out randomly. As today, as you see, we 32 00:02:21,340 --> 00:02:27,160 have poetry criticism. This is class number two. 33 00:02:29,450 --> 00:02:32,470 You see, the title is, we'll continue this series 34 00:02:32,470 --> 00:02:37,270 until next week, Reading and Talking About Poetry. 35 00:02:38,310 --> 00:02:43,650 I would like to start by summarizing what I'm 36 00:02:43,650 --> 00:02:46,370 going to say in this class. So at the beginning, 37 00:02:46,490 --> 00:02:49,510 there will be a summary of the previous class. 38 00:02:50,490 --> 00:02:56,170 Then, we're going to talk about poetry, and then 39 00:02:56,170 --> 00:03:03,120 reading poetry. Okay, let's see. What was last 40 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:10,740 class? I think last class we tried to elicit your 41 00:03:10,740 --> 00:03:13,800 response to the question I gave you earlier. What 42 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:20,080 is poetry? And I was very happy when you came up 43 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:26,270 with like different definitions, mainly the famous 44 00:03:26,270 --> 00:03:31,950 Wordsworthian definition. Poetry was spontaneous 45 00:03:31,950 --> 00:03:38,010 overflow of powerful feelings. And we tried to 46 00:03:38,010 --> 00:03:42,510 look into that definition and we realized how it 47 00:03:42,510 --> 00:03:50,050 was paradoxical. And the paradox which was there 48 00:03:50,050 --> 00:03:54,370 in that statement shows that how poets are 49 00:03:54,370 --> 00:04:01,670 craftsmen. They do a lot of craftsmanship when 50 00:04:01,670 --> 00:04:08,250 they write poetry. And then we talked about other 51 00:04:08,250 --> 00:04:13,650 definitions, and those definitions made us able to 52 00:04:13,650 --> 00:04:18,090 demarcate poetry as a different genre. We started 53 00:04:18,090 --> 00:04:23,650 to talk about rhyme, rhythm, assonance, 54 00:04:24,450 --> 00:04:29,750 alliteration, etc. So these are the features like 55 00:04:29,750 --> 00:04:32,590 which we might be interested while having this 56 00:04:32,590 --> 00:04:36,530 course. I know this course, as I told you from the 57 00:04:36,530 --> 00:04:42,930 very beginning, this course is a course in reading 58 00:04:42,930 --> 00:04:46,630 poetry. But it is a course in reading this poetry 59 00:04:46,630 --> 00:04:52,210 in the context of its culture, in the context of 60 00:04:52,210 --> 00:04:57,110 its history. But as you see, it is difficult, and 61 00:04:57,110 --> 00:05:02,850 this is what will take us to this point, is 62 00:05:02,850 --> 00:05:05,890 talking about poetry. It is difficult to talk 63 00:05:05,890 --> 00:05:12,960 about poetry in a very impulsive manner. I mean, 64 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:17,960 we have to be aware what, you know, we are 65 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,880 talking, what language we are talking. Right, 66 00:05:23,020 --> 00:05:28,640 talking about poetry. In fact, there are two ways 67 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:33,600 we can talk about poetry. I don't know, like when 68 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,540 I ask you to talk about a poem, You might say, 69 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,360 okay, I like this poem. It's very interesting. It 70 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,560 appeals to me. Another student say, okay, I like 71 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:50,780 this metaphor. Now I want you to bring these two 72 00:05:50,780 --> 00:05:55,700 things. Like when you say this is a metaphor, if 73 00:05:55,700 --> 00:05:59,820 you identify that this is a metaphor, it means 74 00:05:59,820 --> 00:06:03,880 like you realize that there is a specialized 75 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,280 language important. So, when you talk about 76 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:12,460 poetry, you have to be aware of this special 77 00:06:12,460 --> 00:06:16,680 language. But when we talk about the meaning, you 78 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,920 know, we are using a general language. So, if you 79 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,460 talk about a certain metaphor, okay, it's good to 80 00:06:24,460 --> 00:06:30,640 realize that this is a metaphor. But it is not 81 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,360 enough to identify the metaphor. You have to say 82 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,800 how this metaphor serves the meaning, you know, in 83 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,480 a special context. I know this is like very 84 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,840 abstract, and you need some examples, okay? Now, 85 00:06:47,900 --> 00:06:51,200 if you look at this example, you know, Wordsworth, 86 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:59,340 it says, the city now does like a garment wear the 87 00:06:59,340 --> 00:07:04,420 beauty of the morning. If we look closely at this 88 00:07:04,420 --> 00:07:09,090 line, We see that there is a kind of comparison. 89 00:07:10,270 --> 00:07:13,750 What is he comparing? Can anybody tell me what is 90 00:07:13,750 --> 00:07:18,190 he comparing? Is he comparing something to 91 00:07:18,190 --> 00:07:23,630 something else? The city now doth like a garment 92 00:07:23,630 --> 00:07:29,950 wear the beauty of the morning. Yes. 93 00:07:38,630 --> 00:07:43,250 So the city is wearing a garment. What is the 94 00:07:43,250 --> 00:07:48,110 garment? What is the garment exactly here? It is 95 00:07:48,110 --> 00:07:51,590 compared to the beauty of the morning. So this is 96 00:07:51,590 --> 00:07:56,270 what we call a simile. For example, my friend is 97 00:07:56,270 --> 00:07:56,890 like a lion. 98 00:08:01,510 --> 00:08:06,070 This is a kind of simile in which we compare one 99 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:10,210 thing with another thing. Now here, as you see in 100 00:08:10,210 --> 00:08:14,510 this poem, Wordsworth compares the beauty of the 101 00:08:14,510 --> 00:08:20,110 morning to a garment which is dressed. Now, when 102 00:08:20,110 --> 00:08:22,930 we want to talk about poetry, 103 00:08:30,030 --> 00:08:36,190 have to say, in this life, it's very important to 104 00:08:36,190 --> 00:08:43,150 see how this simile expresses the extent of 105 00:08:43,150 --> 00:08:47,250 happiness the people in this city enjoy at this 106 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:52,910 moment. Okay? So here, you're mixing between the 107 00:08:52,910 --> 00:08:57,010 specialized language with the general language. So 108 00:08:57,010 --> 00:08:59,620 this is what I expect. You later when we are 109 00:08:59,620 --> 00:09:04,280 doing, when we are reading some poems, we are 110 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,760 going like to, you know, mix between the 111 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,920 specialized language and, you know, the general 112 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:19,000 language. Okay. Now we're going to move to another 113 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,560 point. Sorry. 114 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:30,490 This is another example. Also, it shows us how we 115 00:09:30,490 --> 00:09:36,550 can mix. Dylan Thomas is a famous English poet, 116 00:09:37,690 --> 00:09:42,630 and one of his poems entitled A Grief Ago, he was 117 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:50,570 lamenting the death of his wife, 118 00:09:51,670 --> 00:09:57,830 and he used this like a grief ago. the poem by 119 00:09:57,830 --> 00:10:02,850 saying agrifago. Now, it's very interesting 120 00:10:02,850 --> 00:10:05,910 because do we say in ordinary language agrifago? 121 00:10:07,030 --> 00:10:14,050 So here, this is very poetic. It is very poetic by 122 00:10:14,050 --> 00:10:18,890 the norm of its deviation from the normal use of 123 00:10:18,890 --> 00:10:22,930 language. If we look at this a grief ago, usually 124 00:10:22,930 --> 00:10:26,310 we say one day ago, two days ago, three days ago, 125 00:10:26,490 --> 00:10:33,570 but we never say a grief ago. And like a grief is 126 00:10:33,570 --> 00:10:36,690 like a day. So there is here a kind of metaphor. 127 00:10:37,970 --> 00:10:42,410 It's a metaphor. You have here what we call 128 00:10:42,410 --> 00:10:46,570 syntactic deviation because in grammar, We often 129 00:10:46,570 --> 00:10:50,210 say a day ago, two days ago, three days ago, and 130 00:10:50,210 --> 00:10:55,630 we have semantic deviation. Why? Because grief is 131 00:10:55,630 --> 00:11:00,950 being compared, you know, to days. So here, like 132 00:11:00,950 --> 00:11:06,090 the metaphor shows how the poet is obsessed with 133 00:11:06,090 --> 00:11:11,650 this sense of sadness and agony. Okay? You see 134 00:11:11,650 --> 00:11:14,880 here, again, this is another example We can 135 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:20,040 combine both, you know, specialized language and 136 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,420 general language. 137 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:30,400 Okay, reading poetry. This course, or in this 138 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,000 course, we're going to read a lot of poems. And we 139 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,660 are going, as we explained in the outline, we're 140 00:11:37,660 --> 00:11:39,600 going to respond to the poems. 141 00:11:43,310 --> 00:11:47,050 Be aware of what we are doing when we read poetry. 142 00:11:50,050 --> 00:11:53,190 I know through my experience as a student and even 143 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:55,830 as a teacher, the first time you look at your 144 00:11:55,830 --> 00:11:59,810 poem, you become a little bit repulsive, aversive. 145 00:11:59,870 --> 00:12:01,790 You don't want to read. You know, it's, what is 146 00:12:01,790 --> 00:12:05,670 this? And I want you to dismiss this feeling. I 147 00:12:05,670 --> 00:12:11,220 want you to approach the poem with, you know, a 148 00:12:11,220 --> 00:12:15,620 sense of alacrity, psychological readiness. I want 149 00:12:15,620 --> 00:12:21,020 you to be open-minded, to look at the poem, and to 150 00:12:21,020 --> 00:12:25,520 read the poem aloud, as you see here. Reading the 151 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,200 poem aloud is very important. You have to read the 152 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,140 poem aloud many times, just not one time. And you 153 00:12:33,140 --> 00:12:37,160 should vary. Sometimes you read it slowly, you 154 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,330 concentrate on words. And then you vary the speed. 155 00:12:41,470 --> 00:12:47,970 You speed up to make it sound like what it was 156 00:12:47,970 --> 00:12:54,230 meant by the poet himself. Some people can record 157 00:12:54,230 --> 00:12:57,170 the poem. I did this many times, and it was 158 00:12:57,170 --> 00:13:05,330 lovely. You can also get, nowadays, I think we are 159 00:13:05,330 --> 00:13:08,580 blessed because we have all these electronic 160 00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:12,900 resources so we can harness these resources by 161 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:17,740 downloading, you know, some poems written by 162 00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:21,880 native speakers or even by the poets themselves. 163 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:31,280 Now let's give an example about reading a poem. 164 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,920 How to read a poem. Now this poem, as you see, 165 00:13:38,370 --> 00:13:41,490 Some of you might not say it's a poem, you know, 166 00:13:41,570 --> 00:13:47,930 because is it a poem? Yeah. Like, look at you, you 167 00:13:47,930 --> 00:13:52,570 are surprised. I think a good poem, you know, is 168 00:13:52,570 --> 00:13:56,470 the poem that induces in us a sense of surprise. 169 00:13:59,470 --> 00:14:04,970 Some might gloss over this poem by saying, 40 love 170 00:14:04,970 --> 00:14:08,570 middle-aged couples playing tennis. When they go 171 00:14:08,570 --> 00:14:12,230 home and, you know, when they go home, the net 172 00:14:12,230 --> 00:14:16,790 will still be between them. It is like reading, 173 00:14:17,350 --> 00:14:23,510 you know, a statement without just like variation, 174 00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:28,770 without stressing. But if we have to read this as 175 00:14:28,770 --> 00:14:32,050 if it were a poem, and I think it is a poem, So 176 00:14:32,050 --> 00:14:34,510 how would you like to read it? Should I give you 177 00:14:34,510 --> 00:14:40,530 one minute and then you try reading it? Okay. 178 00:14:50,250 --> 00:14:55,210 I need a daring student who 179 00:14:55,210 --> 00:14:59,450 would like to come and say yes. Okay, I need 180 00:14:59,450 --> 00:15:00,430 another student, hold on. 181 00:15:05,090 --> 00:15:10,870 Yes? Okay, go ahead. Yeah, maybe. For me, it's 182 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:14,670 playing couple. Couple? 183 00:15:18,530 --> 00:15:18,950 Playing? 184 00:15:29,230 --> 00:15:29,670 Okay, 185 00:15:33,830 --> 00:15:36,730 now this is like initial reading, but if you were 186 00:15:36,730 --> 00:15:38,690 to read it again, I don't think, you know, you're 187 00:15:38,690 --> 00:15:42,370 going to stick to this, you know, pace, you might 188 00:15:42,370 --> 00:15:46,110 change the pace. How would you like to change the 189 00:15:46,110 --> 00:15:51,950 pace? Is anybody trying to change the pace? Yes or 190 00:15:51,950 --> 00:15:55,640 no? of middle-aged couple playing tennis when the 191 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,940 game ends and as they go home, the network is 192 00:15:58,940 --> 00:16:01,980 still between them. I bet it's a little bit 193 00:16:01,980 --> 00:16:07,000 musical. Does anybody think of like reading this 194 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:13,060 poem? Forty love middle 223 00:18:22,940 --> 00:18:27,140 meaning. I think this is a legitimate question, 224 00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:30,200 but we don't have to be impatient. We have to 225 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,620 read, you know, to see how the words, you know, 226 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,220 leave some impact on us. We have to look at the 227 00:18:38,220 --> 00:18:41,960 poem closely to see how it is patterned, how it is 228 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,400 formed. You know, what is happening in the poem, 229 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,800 how the words, look here, if you look closely, 230 00:18:51,530 --> 00:18:55,390 chasm here or this space. Do we have this? This is 231 00:18:55,390 --> 00:19:00,570 like Arabic. And if you look closer, we don't have 232 00:19:00,570 --> 00:19:05,450 like, look at the words here, tinness. It is, it 233 00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:10,230 is what? Fragmented. It is in two pieces. Look at 234 00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:15,650 the word. Have you noticed this? Yeah, between 235 00:19:15,650 --> 00:19:20,190 like even them. So we might say, what is this poem 236 00:19:20,190 --> 00:19:25,470 talking about? And who are involved? What is this 237 00:19:25,470 --> 00:19:30,330 poem talking about? Have you asked yourself what 238 00:19:30,330 --> 00:19:37,370 is it about? I know. What is it about? Yes? It 239 00:19:37,370 --> 00:19:42,110 might be... So we are talking about a couple, a 240 00:19:42,110 --> 00:19:42,730 man and a woman? 241 00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:49,370 So they are playing a game. This is what the poem 242 00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:55,050 tells us. When we read the poem, and when we look 243 00:19:55,050 --> 00:20:00,390 at the poem more closely, we start to ask, is it a 244 00:20:00,390 --> 00:20:05,090 friendly game? Or is it a game which involves some 245 00:20:05,090 --> 00:20:10,850 sense of rivalry, like somebody's competing? Is it 246 00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:15,090 a poem which holds in itself some feeling of 247 00:20:15,090 --> 00:20:21,350 acrimony? Because here, as you see, it is Not 248 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:26,130 very, is it friendly? Like, how do you know it's 249 00:20:26,130 --> 00:20:29,270 not friendly? How do you know it's not friendly? 250 00:20:33,050 --> 00:20:37,770 Yes? For 40 love. Yeah, what do you mean 40 love? 251 00:20:39,330 --> 00:20:42,230 Like if there's a friendly relationship between 252 00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:45,130 them. Yeah, like 40 love is a friendly 253 00:20:45,130 --> 00:20:49,430 relationship, okay? But you know, in tennis, love 254 00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:53,490 means zero. So, I don't know, look, whether you 255 00:20:53,490 --> 00:20:57,490 have, yeah, 40 laps. So, it might, yes? 256 00:21:02,490 --> 00:21:02,970 So, 257 00:21:05,610 --> 00:21:08,430 yes, there is a barrier. You know, the Pope says 258 00:21:08,430 --> 00:21:11,410 the net will be still there. And I, again, if we 259 00:21:11,410 --> 00:21:14,270 look at how the words are patterned, like how the 260 00:21:14,270 --> 00:21:18,130 words are fragmented, we see that this is like a 261 00:21:18,130 --> 00:21:23,510 very you know, unhealthy relationship, you know, 262 00:21:23,650 --> 00:21:28,590 because there is a separation. So I don't want to 263 00:21:28,590 --> 00:21:31,950 go deeper in like to this poem. I'll be giving you 264 00:21:31,950 --> 00:21:35,430 another example how we should read the poem and 265 00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:39,830 how we should look at the words, the certain 266 00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:43,230 patterns of the word, and then how to form these 267 00:21:43,230 --> 00:21:45,450 questions. These questions will help us 268 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,700 Or I would say possible thematic meanings, because 269 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:57,320 I don't want like to be, you know, just like 270 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,300 saying this is about this. So as we said, you 271 00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:06,080 know, poetry has multiple meanings. It is not 272 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:11,300 referential, but rather representation. Okay? So 273 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:15,140 let's move to the second example. And I bet you're 274 00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:19,040 going to find it as funny as, even more funny than 275 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:24,440 the first one. Good. You need somebody to read 276 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:31,180 this. Okay? More polemic? Yeah, you started 277 00:22:31,180 --> 00:22:36,440 laughing. I don't know, it might be chemistry. So 278 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,320 look here, you laughed. Isn't nobody afraid? Are 279 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:41,720 you afraid? 280 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,660 Okay, very good. Like, do you want to read it? Go 281 00:22:49,660 --> 00:23:01,760 ahead. N-N-T-T N-N-T-T-N T-N-N T-N-N T-N T-N T-N T 282 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:09,160 -N T-N T-N T-N T-N T-N T-N T-N T-N T-N T-N T-N T-N 283 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:15,440 T-N T-N T-N T-N T-N T-N T-N 284 00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:32,840 Ah, good. 285 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:40,380 Thank you very much. Okay. It's fun, isn't it? 286 00:23:40,620 --> 00:23:46,290 Yeah. But like when you read the poem, You didn't 287 00:23:46,290 --> 00:23:53,010 feel it. You didn't imbue it, charge it with any 288 00:23:53,010 --> 00:23:56,070 sentiment. So you were reading as if you were 289 00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:59,750 reading a piece of news. So reading poetry 290 00:23:59,750 --> 00:24:04,290 requires that we put some sentiments, we put some 291 00:24:04,290 --> 00:24:09,330 feelings. Okay? So is anybody going to add 292 00:24:09,330 --> 00:24:12,250 feelings, sentiments? Yeah, come on. 293 00:24:18,220 --> 00:24:18,840 Go ahead. 294 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:30,520 Yes? I know it's funny. So let me just like read 295 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,740 it. An-an, chi-chi. An-an, chi-chi, chi-chi-chi, 296 00:24:36,340 --> 00:24:42,500 an-an. Chi-chi, an-an, chi-an. Chi-an, chi-an, chi 297 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:47,740 -an, chi-an, an-chi. An-chi, an-chi, an-chi, an. 298 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:54,720 Ti-an. An-ti. An-ti. An-ti-an. An-ti-an-ti-an-ti 299 00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:01,200 -an. Ti-ti. An-an. Ti-ti. An-an. Ti-ti. Ti-ti. An 300 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,760 -an. Ti-ti. Ti-an. An-an. An-an-an-an-an-an-an? An 301 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,740 -an-an-an-an-an. Ti-ti-ti. Ti-ti-ti. Ti-ti-ti. Ti 302 00:25:11,740 --> 00:25:20,580 -ti-ti. Very funny. You like it? Oh, look here. 303 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,280 Thank you. You started to like poetry. And is 304 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:29,440 anybody worried? Thank you. Nobody's worried? You 305 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,500 want me to bring this in the exam and to ask you, 306 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,940 what is this poem about? 307 00:25:36,340 --> 00:25:40,640 But look at me, like I interacted with the poem. 308 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,110 And as you felt at the end of the poem, You know, 309 00:25:46,270 --> 00:25:51,830 it was a little bit sad. Why? Because, as you see, 310 00:25:52,110 --> 00:25:57,250 an-an-an, you know, it's taking side, and the chi 311 00:25:57,250 --> 00:26:03,670 -chi-chi is taking side. So, we might say, hey, 312 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:08,070 what is this poem about? Okay? Let's guess, you 313 00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:11,370 know, for fun, what this poem might be about. 314 00:26:11,550 --> 00:26:14,150 Because, you know, in this course, poetry course, 315 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,000 I don't want you to end the poem by saying this 316 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,260 poem is about. It might be about. It might be 317 00:26:23,260 --> 00:26:26,480 about this. It might be about that. And sometimes 318 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,200 when we reach the intended meaning of the poem, we 319 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,140 might lose the poem. We might lose the beauty of 320 00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:39,420 the poem. So I think poets would be very happy 321 00:26:39,420 --> 00:26:44,310 when they see that their poems spoon, generate 322 00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:48,790 multiple meanings. I met some poets, and when I 323 00:26:48,790 --> 00:26:53,170 started, like, to interpret certain words, they 324 00:26:53,170 --> 00:26:55,710 started, like, to be amazed. I didn't think of 325 00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:59,030 that. They were very happy. So, I think even for 326 00:26:59,030 --> 00:27:03,210 us, like, when we learn, yes, we have to figure 327 00:27:03,210 --> 00:27:05,510 out different meanings. What do you think? What is 328 00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:08,530 it about? Yes? 329 00:27:11,070 --> 00:27:14,650 Yeah, it could be two Chinese, you know, they are 330 00:27:14,650 --> 00:27:17,030 fighting with each other. Very good. Thank you. 331 00:27:17,090 --> 00:27:19,530 Could be. Yes. 332 00:27:22,510 --> 00:27:24,670 Yeah, it could be a conflict between two friends, 333 00:27:25,130 --> 00:27:28,390 you know, Khalid and his friend and they are doing 334 00:27:28,390 --> 00:27:35,230 this. It could be. Yes. Could be. Yeah, thank you. 335 00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:37,830 It could be between two countries, like, you know, 336 00:27:38,130 --> 00:27:40,850 they're fighting, they are always in conflictual 337 00:27:40,850 --> 00:27:43,110 relation, like what happened between Iran and 338 00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:44,430 Iraq. Thank you very much. 339 00:27:47,890 --> 00:27:53,510 It's a church. A child, like it could be a nursery 340 00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:59,790 rhyme, like, good, thank you. Yes. 341 00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:06,600 A couple, a wife and husband fighting each other. 342 00:28:07,620 --> 00:28:10,940 You know, they keep like their life is full of 343 00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:13,480 wrangling dispute. You know, it could be like they 344 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,840 are not on good terms. Good. Yes. 345 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:23,940 Suffered from? Flu. Yeah, very good. I haven't 346 00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:27,620 thought of that. It could be good. And then, you 347 00:28:27,620 --> 00:28:32,640 know, keep doing this. And there is no doctor like 348 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,820 to prescribe medicine for him. Good. Thank you. 349 00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:42,040 But like, it's very interesting to hear maybe. I 350 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,980 want to ask what made you reach this? But when you 351 00:28:45,980 --> 00:28:49,680 say maybe it's about this, is it the sound? Is it 352 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,940 the word on the page? Is it the arrangement? So 353 00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:56,540 what makes you come to this interpretation? 354 00:28:58,820 --> 00:29:05,170 Yeah? The sound itself. Thank you. The sound. The 355 00:29:05,170 --> 00:29:09,390 words like am and chi, how they sometimes, the 356 00:29:09,390 --> 00:29:13,190 words are reciprocal and sometimes they are not. 357 00:29:13,730 --> 00:29:17,830 When I say reciprocal, like you see am, am, chi, 358 00:29:17,890 --> 00:29:21,170 chi, they reciprocate. They reciprocate, they 359 00:29:21,170 --> 00:29:24,350 change, you know, the communication is reciprocal. 360 00:29:24,610 --> 00:29:27,550 I say good morning, you say good morning. But if I 361 00:29:27,550 --> 00:29:29,790 say good morning and you stop, there is no 362 00:29:29,790 --> 00:29:33,530 reciprocation or reciprocity, sorry. So it's not 363 00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:41,450 reciprocal. Good. Yes? The number of the words, 364 00:29:41,770 --> 00:29:47,870 yes. Yeah, the repetition is, you know, like the 365 00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:51,210 number of the lines. Okay. What does the 366 00:29:51,210 --> 00:29:57,770 repetition tell you, like, that this is what? What 367 00:29:57,770 --> 00:30:00,310 interpretation did you come up with? 368 00:30:05,980 --> 00:30:08,900 two countries because you know we have like an and 369 00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:12,100 chi and all the time they are repeated yeah that's 370 00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:16,040 why so this duality of like because we have two 371 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,280 words this duality thought you that this might be 372 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,920 a conflict between two countries or you know a 373 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,100 conflict uh you know between a man and a woman you 374 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:31,800 know or a friend and another friend mother and 375 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,520 daughter I don't think a mother and daughter would 376 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,280 suffer such a relationship. The mother-daughter is 377 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:46,080 very intimate, matriarchal relationship. The 378 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,500 happiest creature in the world would be the mother 379 00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:53,260 when she sees her daughter. So we're not talking 380 00:30:53,260 --> 00:30:59,200 about this. Good. Have you thought of another like 381 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,980 meaning? rather than this. Somebody told me 382 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:08,220 yesterday, I see the word chain, which is 383 00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:16,480 negative. See? And like this led me to think, yes, 384 00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:21,640 is the poem positive or negative? Okay? Is it 385 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,660 positive or negative? So again, as you see, these 386 00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:28,820 questions are very important. We ask question, who 387 00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:32,920 is speaking to whom? What is this about? And why 388 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,400 are the words arranged in this way? Why, you know, 389 00:31:36,780 --> 00:31:39,340 for example, the beginning is different from the 390 00:31:39,340 --> 00:31:42,360 end. Look at the beginning, you know, the 391 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,640 arrangement is different. At the beginning, like, 392 00:31:46,260 --> 00:31:50,160 you know, the M and the G are interchangeable. But 393 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,860 here, You see? You see everybody is taking side. 394 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:02,740 So this might make us come to the conclusion that 395 00:32:02,740 --> 00:32:07,660 this is a negative. It is a conflictual 396 00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:12,720 relationship which ended by this crisis. There is 397 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,380 a sense of crisis here. Okay? So it could be like 398 00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:20,240 a crisis in, you know, a family relation between a 399 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,940 husband and a woman, between a country and another 400 00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:25,640 country, you know? I don't know. It might have 401 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,360 different meanings. But some student told me, 402 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,300 don't you think this is about a jolting, a car 403 00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:34,300 jolting in the morning? You know, uh-uh, gee-gee, 404 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,780 you know? So I was amazed by the number of 405 00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:42,680 interpretations the students gave to this poem, 406 00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:45,980 and they started to talk. Look here, you know, I 40 445 00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:35,440 started to have what we call in politics some 446 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:41,320 rapprochement attempts, to rapproche, to become 447 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,340 close together. So they started talking, they 448 00:35:44,340 --> 00:35:48,760 started visiting each other, exchanging visits, 449 00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:52,650 having banquets. But what happened, gradually, 450 00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:57,690 this relation started to be strained, to be 451 00:35:57,690 --> 00:36:03,650 weakened, and it ended with this crisis. So the 452 00:36:03,650 --> 00:36:10,710 poet, like the English poet, wanted to record that 453 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:14,270 experience. And as we said in the previous 454 00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:19,850 lecture, poets respond in their own ways to daily 455 00:36:19,850 --> 00:36:23,230 experiences. Like this is a daily experience. Like 456 00:36:23,230 --> 00:36:29,010 he responded by writing this poem. But what did he 457 00:36:29,010 --> 00:36:32,370 do in order? How did he, like here the question is 458 00:36:32,370 --> 00:36:36,230 how we encode our experience. I think he encoded 459 00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:42,860 his experience by just having these two words. He 460 00:36:42,860 --> 00:36:48,500 looked at the zoo of London, there was a panda 461 00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:53,860 animal called Qi, and the zoo of Moscow, there was 462 00:36:53,860 --> 00:37:00,520 another panda called An. So he thought it might be 463 00:37:01,290 --> 00:37:06,030 Wonderful, a good idea to represent this situation 464 00:37:06,030 --> 00:37:10,470 or this crisis situation in politics by having 465 00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:18,010 this funny and interesting patterning. I know some 466 00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:21,970 of you are not happy now. Why? Because we narrowed 467 00:37:21,970 --> 00:37:26,630 the poem to the intended meaning of the poet. And 468 00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:29,250 I think the poet would not be very happy as well. 469 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,600 So I think in this course I'm going to give you 470 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:41,460 space, freedom to express yourself, like to figure 471 00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:44,860 out different interpretations to any poem, even 472 00:37:44,860 --> 00:37:49,160 like they will establish themes of certain poems 473 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,980 we are going to study. This course is to make you 474 00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:58,700 widen your critical perception. We are not going 475 00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:01,420 to rule out certain interpretations and say, 476 00:38:01,620 --> 00:38:07,760 that's it. No. So, I mean, when we read poems, you 477 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,810 might, for example, disagree with us, but the most 478 00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:16,050 important thing is to bring together the 479 00:38:16,050 --> 00:38:23,530 specialized language and the 480 00:38:23,530 --> 00:38:28,490 general language. Any questions so far? 481 00:38:33,370 --> 00:38:43,200 Good. So next time, we're going to read, to start 482 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:48,760 the course by reading Sir Thomas Wyatt and his 483 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,680 poem, Who's a Lost Hunt. But in order to prepare, 484 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:59,560 I told you, you should read something about the 485 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,360 historical background. I left for you in the 486 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,000 reader, in the pamphlet, a biography about the 487 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,000 poet, something about courtly love, because it's 488 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,960 very important to know what is courtly love, and 489 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:19,160 then to read the poem. And before pinning your 490 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,560 response, it is very important to read the poem 491 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,560 several times. I don't know how would you read it, 492 00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:29,540 but I don't want you to read it as if you were 493 00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:33,400 reading a newspaper. You might read it in 494 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,940 different ways until the poem makes sense. And 495 00:39:36,940 --> 00:39:40,560 after that, you have to start writing your 496 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,640 response. I know that your initial response might 497 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:51,040 not be deep, but it is a response which I would 498 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:57,920 evaluate and perhaps develop in the class. Okay? 499 00:39:58,620 --> 00:40:01,980 So somebody might say, what should we write? You 500 00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:05,840 can say, okay. Like, after having enough 501 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,920 background about the life of the poet, and, you 502 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,260 know, after understanding that he was a famous 503 00:40:11,260 --> 00:40:16,580 courtier, I became more interested in, you know, 504 00:40:16,660 --> 00:40:20,580 reading his poetry. And when I read this poem, you 505 00:40:20,580 --> 00:40:24,280 know, Hossein Ostouhan, I started, like, to see, 506 00:40:24,340 --> 00:40:27,420 like, something different. I started to see how 507 00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:31,600 the poet was frustrated, disappointed because of 508 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,220 this and that. You see what I mean? And I would 509 00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:40,740 see this, you can bring it like a hard copy and at 510 00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:43,680 the same time prepare a soft copy because we might 511 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,840 put this on the page. So until then, I wish you 512 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,280 good luck and thank you very much for listening to 513 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:50,940 me, okay?