From: pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: Christians above the Law? was Clarification of personal position
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In article <1993Apr19.131102.7843@rchland.ibm.com> 
xzz0280@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (R. J. Traff) writes:
>|> In article <C5MuIw.AqC@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> 
>|> dlecoint@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (Darius_Lecointe) writes:
>|> >question is "On what authority do we proclaim that the requirements of the
>|>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> >fourth commandment are no longer relevant to modern Christians?"  Please
>|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I don't believe most Christians believe they are *above* the Law.  However,
>we are not saved by adherence to the Law.  The Law exists to tell us what
>is sinful.  We all sin.

Hence we are "all" above the Law where "all" in this case refers to
Christians.

>Jews believe that their sins are atoned for with
>blood sacrifice of animals as described in the Old Testament.

When was the last time you heard about a Jewish animal sacrifice?

>Christians 
>believe that their sins are atoned for by the blood sacrifice of Jesus.

The blood sacrifice of an innocent man?

>This does not make the Law 'irrelevant'.

Then why don't Christians follow it, why don't they even follow their
own Ten Commandments?

>Breaking the Law *is* sinful,
>and we are to avoid sinful ways, but sinning, by itself, does not jeopardize
>salvation.

So, in short; Hitler is in heaven and Gandhi is in Hell?

>Note that I'm not a theologian.  But this is the gist of several
>sermons I've heard lately and some Bible studies I've been through.  

Did you ever wonder if someone, perhaps a great deceiver, was pulling
your leg?
