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0 | From: [email protected] (Gary W. Mahan)
Subject: Re: Are BMW's worth the price?
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory
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>sure sounds like they got a ringer. the 325is i drove was definitely
>faster than that. if you want to quote numbers, my AW AutoFile shows
>0-60 in 7.4, 1/4 mile in 15.9. it quotes Car and Driver's figures
>of 6.9 and 15.3. oh, BTW, these numbers are for the 325i.
Car and Driver rated the 325is (1988) at 7.2 0-60 , 1/4 at 15.2 (after 30k miles) last time I checked 8#}.
Automobile magazine rated new 325is 1/4 [email protected].
Gee , aint quotiin funner than the dickens!
Sounds like we need a race. I'll let you have the newer version. Can someone out there lend me a 1988 325is for a day 8-]. I wont hurt it, I promise.
>i don't know how the addition of variable valve timing for 1993 affects it.
>but don't take my word for it. go drive it.
Actually I will take your word on it. I refuse to test it (new 325is) because
I love BMW's and would probably want to buy it. Problem is, my income just doesn't support that.
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0 | From: [email protected] (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Notes on Jays vs. Indians Series
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Rudy Wade) writes:
>>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Nelson Lu) writes:
>>>Guess which line is which:
>>> BA OBP SLG AB H 2B 3B HR BB
>>>X .310 .405 .427 571 177 27 8 8 87
>>>Y .312 .354 .455 657 205 32 1 20 35
>>
>>>The walks should give it away. OBP's, in general, somewhat more valuable than
>>>slugging, and Alomar's edge in OBP was quite a bit larger than Baerga's edge
>>>in slugging.
>>
>>I'm no SDCN, but what's more valuable:
>>
>>28 hits w/5 more doubles, 12 more HRs OR
>>7 more triples and 52 BBs? (Let's not forget the 39 extra SBs. How many CS?)
>
>Alomar had 9 CS. Baerga had 2.
>
>Don't forget the 59 more outs Baerga had (his GIDP balances out his CS, and
>he had one more sacrifice than Alomar). A replacement level second baseman
>could have had 17 hits, 5 walks, and a couple of XBH for the additional
>outs Baerga had. A triple is little different than a home run. We're talking
>exchanging almost 60 walks for six or seven home runs and four doubles. I
>would say the almost-60 walks are more valuable.
Also, Alomar got a FAR greater boost from his home park than Baerga did from
his. And "six or seven home runs"? Hmm.
So, if you wanted to pick a second baseman to play in Toronto, you'd take
Alomar. Anywhere else, and you'd probably take Baerga.
Mike
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0 | From: [email protected] (Shaw Goh)
Subject: 1.44Mb F/D WANTED
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0 | From: [email protected] (wharfie)
Subject: Re: Where can I get a New York taxi?
Distribution: na
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA
Lines: 20
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Tim Nelson) writes:
>The older NY taxis were made by the Checker Car Company, and I would love
>to have one.
>Or, is the Checker Car Company still in business?
Checker Motors went out of business in 1982. It's hard to get
old Checkers that are worth restoring, since almost every one was
a fleet vehicle that was driven into the ground. If you can get a
body in decent shape the mechanicals should all be available _somewhere_ -
Checker used whatever parts were around. For instance, I had a Chevy
straight six and a GMC Truck radiator and a Ford rear in mine.
>
>The model that I am looking for is the Checker Marathon.
Actually, you want a Checker Special if you can find one.
Good luck. I'm sorry I let mine go...
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0 | From: [email protected] (Andrew Scott)
Subject: USENET Hockey Draft week 27 standings
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, IDACOM Telecommunications Division
Lines: 276
Well, I'm back from Tokyo, so here are the standings after the April 13 update.
- Andrew
USENET Hockey Draft Standings
Week 27
Posn Team Pts Proj Cash Last Posn
1. Dave Wessels 1536 1572.8 1.9 (1)
2. Bob Hill 1481 1538.1 24.0 (3)
3. Gilles Carmel 1492 1529.9 1.0 (2)
4. Seppo Kemppainen 1430 1514.0 47.2 (5)
5. The Awesome Oilers 1412 1504.4 68.6 (4)
6. Hillside Raiders 1456 1495.2 7.0 (7)
7. Mak "The Knife" Paranjape 1424 1491.7 31.0 (6)
8. Jan Stein 1412 1483.2 35.3 (8)
9. this years model 1428 1479.3 17.6 (10)
10. Rangers Of Destiny 1401 1475.9 42.0 (9)
Tapio Repo 1422 1475.9 19.6 (11)
12. FRANK'S BIG FISH 1398 1453.9 22.0 (12)
13. The Underachievers 1409 1452.9 10.1 (13)
14. On Thin Ice 1380 1440.9 32.3 (14)
15. Go Flames 1367 1438.1 40.3 (17)
16. littlest giants 1370 1437.7 35.6 (16)
17. Mopar Muscle Men 1400 1431.4 3.7 (18)
18. Lindros Losers 1396 1431.2 1.7 (15)
19. DIE Penguin Bandwaggoners 1357 1411.0 20.2 (19)
20. Samuel Lau (Calgary, Alberta) 1360 1396.3 4.9 (20)
21. Boomer's Boys 1341 1371.6 0.2 (23)
22. General Accounting Office 1316 1369.4 20.9 (21)
23. Delaware Wombats 1341 1367.5 1.3 (24)
24. Migods Menschen 1307 1366.8 31.6 (22)
25. Wellsy's Buttheads DEC NH 1280 1362.3 52.6 (25)
26. Rocky Mountain High 1325 1357.2 1.8 (26)
27. Fife Flyers 1283 1348.4 31.4 (27)
28. Gerald Olchowy 1275 1340.2 33.7 (28)
29. Dave Snell 1281 1335.7 25.0 (59)
30. Fluide Glacial 1291 1333.7 18.0 (29)
31. Gaoler 1279 1321.5 11.2 (30)
32. SmegHeads 1289 1315.8 0.3 (31)
33. The Young And The Skateless 1235 1305.6 42.9 (32)
34. Sam & His Dogs 1262 1297.3 11.6 (34)
35. Neural Netters 1251 1294.2 11.3 (35)
36. Youngbucs 1206 1288.1 101.7 (36)
37. Artic Storm 1220 1287.7 39.3 (33)
38. Soft Swedes 1205 1281.5 46.9 (37)
39. Jeff Horvath 1239 1268.6 5.6 (38)
40. Milton Keynes Kings 1229 1262.5 2.8 (40)
41. Hamster from Hoboken 1223 1257.0 8.7 (41)
Kuehn Crushers 1185 1257.0 45.1 (45)
43. Le Fleur de Lys 1202 1256.9 25.3 (42)
44. Yan The Man Loke 1225 1255.5 0.7 (39)
45. Legion of Hoth 1208 1251.1 15.8 (48)
46. Simmonac 1169 1249.4 87.6 (44)
47. The Finnish Force 1192 1245.1 22.5 (46)
48. ice legion 1193 1244.8 28.8 (43)
49. Streaks 1161 1242.8 54.8 (47)
50. Brian Bergman 1190 1241.0 23.3 (55)
51. Goaldingers 1190 1239.3 22.0 (49)
52. T C OverAchievers 1209 1237.0 2.9 (52)
53. Grant Marven 1196 1231.2 2.9 (50)
54. Bozrah Bruins 1155 1223.9 45.2 (54)
55. Real Bad Toe Jam 1150 1223.4 48.9 (62)
56. Houdini's Magicians 1181 1222.4 18.3 (61)
57. Skriko Wolves 1186 1221.5 5.4 (53)
58. rec.sport.hockey choices 1196 1221.1 1.3 (63)
59. buffalo soldiers 1142 1220.3 62.1 (65)
60. bemybaby 1140 1219.9 54.2 (51)
61. LIPPE 1179 1215.2 13.9 (56)
62. Randy Coulman 1185 1214.8 5.2 (57)
63. LAMP LIGHTERS 1180 1211.6 5.9 (58)
64. Steven And Mark Dream Team 1174 1206.2 3.1 (60)
65. Indianapolis Bennies 1160 1205.4 20.8 (66)
66. Tom 1160 1202.8 13.1 (68)
67. Bloom County All Stars 1164 1198.8 4.3 (67)
68. Bruins 1174 1198.5 0.1 (72)
69. Phil and Kev's Karma Dudes 1172 1198.0 0.8 (69)
70. smithw 1146 1194.5 21.0 (73)
71. Iowa Hockeyes 1149 1193.8 16.3 (64)
72. Doug Bowles 1146 1190.6 20.0 (71)
73. The Great Pumpkin 1108 1187.3 54.4 (74)
74. NON! 1145 1186.4 16.4 (77)
75. shooting seamen 1161 1183.3 0.1 (75)
76. Frank Worthless 1149 1182.7 6.3 (76)
77. AIK Exiles 1116 1179.8 34.5 (70)
78. Invisible Inc 1156 1177.4 1.1 (78)
79. Brad Gibson 1126 1176.9 27.2 (79)
80. Cougarmania 1114 1165.7 24.8 (88)
81. Kortelaisen Kovat 1086 1165.2 164.1 (85)
82. PLP Fools 1135 1163.1 0.1 (81)
83. David Wong 1082 1161.6 66.1 (84)
84. John Zupancic 1102 1160.7 27.1 (82)
85. garryola 1121 1159.4 9.7 (89)
86. Gary Bergman Fan Club 1128 1157.6 5.1 (93)
87. Staffan Axelsson 1120 1157.1 15.1 (83)
88. Chubby Checkers 1110 1156.2 16.3 (80)
89. Derrill's Dastardly Dozen 1109 1155.0 22.1 (90)
90. Chocolate Rockets 1121 1150.7 2.5 (86)
91. Ken DeCruyenaere 1113 1147.9 5.0 (87)
92. Fisher Dirtbags 1119 1147.4 0.7 (94)
93. KODIAKS 1122 1146.0 1.3 (95)
94. No Namers 1067 1145.8 58.2 (91)
95. The Campi Machine 1061 1145.2 65.3 (92)
96. BSC Oranienburg 1115 1142.4 7.1 (98)
97. The Kamucks 1064 1141.5 76.1 (97)
98. Arsenal Maple Leafs 1108 1138.4 3.8 (96)
99. Ellis Islanders 1096 1128.0 7.6 (100)
100. Mombasa Mosquitos 1090 1122.4 6.1 (101)
101. Zachmans Wingers 1051 1122.1 49.8 (103)
102. Edelweiss 1091 1121.0 2.9 (102)
103. Bjoern Leaguen 1039 1118.5 61.4 (112)
104. Dirty White Socks 1050 1116.5 43.4 (105)
105. Wormtown Woosbags 1039 1116.1 72.6 (104)
106. Neil Younger 1036 1115.0 77.7 (114)
107. Hurricane Andrew 1082 1114.8 7.6 (106)
108. King Suke 1089 1114.5 0.1 (110)
109. Larry 1078 1114.3 11.8 (107)
110. Het Schot Is Hard 1076 1113.6 18.1 (115)
111. VoteNoOct26 1056 1112.6 31.8 (108)
112. Bloodgamers 1046 1111.6 42.1 (99)
Bruce's Rented Mules 1077 1111.6 11.9 (108)
114. Teem Kanada 1075 1110.6 16.0 (111)
115. Frank's Follies 1063 1106.5 24.2 (113)
116. Oklahoma Stormchasers 1053 1103.6 28.3 (121)
117. SPUDS 1068 1103.4 12.6 (119)
118. Pond Slime 1081 1102.3 0.7 (117)
119. PSV Dartmouth 1071 1101.4 7.1 (116)
120. Mark Sanders 1065 1099.2 11.1 (120)
121. Blue Talon 1062 1096.5 13.3 (126)
122. Stanford Ice Hawks 1043 1094.7 28.2 (118)
123. Aye Carumba!!! 1063 1089.6 3.9 (124)
124. Kokudo Keikaku Bunnies 1021 1088.0 40.3 (125)
125. Timo Ojala 1059 1085.7 0.3 (122)
126. Haral 1057 1085.3 7.3 (128)
127. Cluster Buster 1048 1083.4 7.6 (136)
128. Dirty Rotten Puckers 1054 1082.7 1.2 (135)
129. Apricot Fuzzfaces 1037 1081.1 23.3 (127)
130. The Lost Poots 1048 1080.5 6.7 (132)
131. Nesbitt 1058 1078.6 1.1 (123)
132. Gary Bill Pens Dynasty 1035 1077.8 19.6 (144)
133. garys team 1035 1076.2 17.1 (129)
134. Arctic Circles 1012 1074.1 37.6 (131)
135. Seattle PFTB 1028 1074.0 22.9 (132)
136. Late Night with David Letterman 1049 1073.7 0.0 (130)
137. Le Groupe MI 1020 1073.2 30.2 (141)
138. GO BRUINS 1046 1072.7 6.2 (140)
139. Scott Glenn 1038 1069.7 10.2 (138)
140. Flying Kiwis 1035 1068.7 9.1 (136)
141. team gold 1029 1067.4 16.7 (142)
142. Closet Boy's Boys 995 1064.6 48.0 (143)
143. Wild Hearted Sons 1036 1064.4 4.9 (153)
144. boutch 92-93 1023 1063.2 20.0 (134)
145. Andy Y F WONG 1019 1062.6 21.5 (147)
Wembley LostWeekenders 1040 1062.6 0.3 (152)
147. McKees Rocks Rockers 1036 1062.4 5.1 (144)
148. Book 'em Danno's Bushbabies 1032 1062.1 10.5 (163)
149. Dree Hobbs 1020 1060.2 13.4 (139)
150. GO HABS GO 1027 1058.1 8.0 (151)
151. Goddess Of Fermentation 1005 1057.8 30.2 (156)
152. Tim Rogers 1024 1056.8 8.1 (146)
153. convex stars 1026 1055.9 5.6 (160)
154. Einstein's Rock Band 1033 1055.7 0.0 (154)
155. Princeton Canucks 979 1055.5 124.2 (150)
156. Tap 1028 1055.2 0.5 (155)
157. Hubert's Hockey Homeboys 1030 1053.9 0.6 (163)
Buttered Waffles 981 1053.9 46.0 (148)
159. MY TEAM 977 1052.0 174.8 (162)
160. Bob's Blues 980 1050.9 46.8 (149)
161. furleys furies 1021 1046.6 3.6 (159)
162. HUNTERS & COLLECTORS 982 1045.9 42.4 (157)
Les Nordiques 974 1045.9 60.4 (161)
164. Satan's Choice 1012 1045.3 14.5 (173)
165. Dr Joel Fleishman 1020 1043.9 3.7 (158)
166. Sundogs 1017 1040.9 0.4 (166)
167. Pierre Mailhot 1017 1039.9 2.6 (175)
168. Slap Shot Marco 966 1037.8 51.8 (168)
169. San Jose Mahi Mahi 989 1037.6 31.8 (178)
170. The Leafs Rule!!!! 990 1037.3 25.8 (174)
171. Jeff Nimeroff 963 1036.5 48.8 (167)
172. Stimpy ADG Zeta 996 1035.2 21.0 (178)
173. The Dreamers 958 1034.6 63.7 (170)
174. East City Jokers 956 1033.7 69.1 (171)
175. Daryl Turner 1008 1033.1 2.4 (169)
176. riding the pine 988 1031.8 20.7 (165)
177. Flowers 957 1030.4 113.6 (172)
178. Darse Billings 975 1029.3 34.7 (185)
179. Chappel's Chumps 984 1027.9 24.0 (186)
180. LANA Inc 982 1027.2 27.3 (182)
181. Spinal Tap 963 1026.6 41.4 (177)
182. JimParker 949 1025.9 179.0 (187)
183. Enforcers 980 1023.9 28.1 (189)
184. Jeff Bachovchin 949 1020.7 46.7 (180)
Big Bad Bruins 981 1020.7 18.5 (183)
186. Mike Mac Cormack Sydney NS CAN 944 1020.6 107.2 (184)
187. Bulldogs 973 1019.7 23.4 (181)
188. voyageurs 996 1017.2 2.7 (176)
189. Absolut Lehigh 984 1015.4 8.9 (190)
190. Republican Dirty Tricksters 930 1010.4 66.0 (188)
191. Henry's Bar B Q 990 1007.7 0.7 (197)
192. Dr.D And The S.O.D. 968 1007.3 17.1 (192)
193. Bunch of Misfits 957 1006.9 23.8 (193)
194. Robyns Team 955 1005.5 30.0 (198)
195. Yellow Plague 969 1003.4 14.2 (191)
196. Ninja Turtles 982 1003.0 1.3 (194)
197. Team Melville 930 999.1 46.9 (199)
198. Acadien 962 998.6 18.3 (201)
199. DARMAN'S Dragons 950 998.4 28.3 (209)
200. Kuta Papercuts 961 998.2 18.5 (207)
201. Great Expectations 972 998.0 2.3 (195)
202. Cobra's Killers 942 996.4 31.7 (205)
203. Cherry Bombers 971 995.6 1.2 (196)
204. Jayson's Kinky Pucks 943 989.9 26.9 (204)
205. Killer Apes 947 989.7 24.3 (208)
206. Kaufbeuren Icebreakers 929 989.1 37.6 (202)
207. Umpire 4 life 950 987.8 11.1 (200)
208. Roger Smith 927 987.0 39.6 (210)
209. Firebirds 960 983.8 3.9 (203)
210. Those 1st few weeks hurt! 905 982.9 55.9 (211)
211. IKEA Wholesale 958 982.0 1.7 (213)
212. Outlaws 903 975.6 164.9 (206)
213. The 200 Club 944 969.4 6.8 (219)
214. Thundering Herd 887 966.7 163.6 (212)
215. Believe it or dont 926 966.6 21.1 (214)
216. Creeping Death 924 965.7 21.3 (217)
217. Knee Injuries 932 965.6 10.4 (218)
218. Crazy Euros 927 965.3 17.9 (220)
219. Frack Attack 918 965.0 27.3 (221)
Todd's Turkeys 942 965.0 1.9 (222)
221. Ryan's Renegades 893 961.7 50.9 (223)
222. fred mckim 889 961.5 93.0 (215)
223. 400 Hurricane 909 960.4 32.1 (216)
224. pig vomit 936 958.3 1.3 (225)
225. Ice Strykers 882 955.4 105.4 (226)
226. Fighting Geordies 882 953.7 141.6 (227)
227. CDN Stuck in Alabama 925 951.6 10.3 (228)
228. dayton bomber 932 951.5 0.0 (236)
229. Cafall and Crew 892 948.2 38.3 (224)
230. Chris of Death 872 945.0 83.6 (232)
231. Swillbellies 902 941.9 18.7 (230)
232. Banko's Beer Rangers 913 940.4 4.2 (233)
Zipper Heads 892 940.4 33.9 (237)
234. NY Flames 907 938.8 7.8 (234)
235. Ship's Way 913 938.7 8.7 (229)
236. Laubsters II 861 937.6 201.6 (235)
237. Oz 878 934.1 35.0 (231)
238. Joliet Inmates 872 933.5 45.8 (239)
239. Ninja Bunnies 858 925.9 44.9 (238)
240. Great Scott 853 924.6 73.3 (242)
241. Widefield White Wolves 861 919.7 36.9 (240)
242. The Ice Holes 890 912.7 2.7 (246)
243. SANDY'S SABRES 886 910.8 4.7 (244)
244. Daves Team 858 910.7 32.0 (241)
245. South Carolina Tiger Paws 835 909.0 78.4 (243)
246. Florida Tech Burgh Team 844 908.9 49.3 (245)
247. Leos Blue Chips 874 902.5 10.4 (247)
248. For xtc 874 900.0 8.2 (248)
249. roadrunners 861 899.7 18.5 (249)
250. Mudville Kings 851 897.8 27.6 (250)
251. New Jersey Rob 876 894.2 0.7 (253)
252. Redliners 856 893.3 15.9 (251)
253. Pat Phillips 859 887.6 10.1 (252)
254. Stewart Clamen 851 869.6 1.6 (254)
255. Demon Spawn 820 866.1 25.0 (255)
256. Sunnyvale Storm 804 818.4 0.2 (256)
257. Allez les Blues 738 809.1 476.9 (257)
258. Up For Sale Hockey Club 749 789.4 23.0 (258)
259. Petes Picks 721 788.0 168.5 (259)
260. RINACO 709 781.8 114.0 (260)
261. Brenz Revenge 691 713.3 4.0 (261)
262. Dinamo Riga 595 663.9 571.6 (262)
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| 10,716 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Andrew McVeigh)
Subject: Re: proof of resurection
Organization: SHLRC, Macquarie University
Lines: 74
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
> We also cannot fail to note the intense suffering a devastation which has been
> wrecked on our world because of Christians -- who were certain they were
> following Christ. From Captialist who have polluted the enviorment in strict
> obedience to the Gensis command to subdue the earth, to Nazi's who have
> "justly"
> punished the Jews for the killing Christ (as well as the other progroms), the
> innocent women who were burned alive in accordance with "you shall not allow a
> witch to live", the Moslems who were killed in the Crusades, the god-fearing
> men destroyed by the inquistion. The religious wars in Spain, France, England,
> etc. Christianity has undoubtedly caused the most suffering and needless loss
> of life by individuals whose certainity that they were following the
> instructions therein, was unquestionable. There is much to grieve.
>
> randy
Very interesting, but I also believe that you have presented a
misleading argument. Christianity is not the cause of the massacres
and horrific injustices that you relate, rather they are the fault
of people who misunderstand Jesus Christ's message, and modify
it to suit their own beliefs and aims, rather than alter their
ambitions to be more in line with those presented as desirable in
the New Testament. With every truthful and good message that
carries authority or implied authority, comes the inevitable
fact that some (many?) people will understand it in a distorted
way, with inevitable consequences.
The Bible's message is that we are to love all people, and
that all people are redeemable. It preaches a message of
repentance, and of giving. Unfortunately, all people have
deceitful hearts, and are capable of turning this message
around and contorting it in sometimes unbelievable ways.
This is also a fundamental Christian doctrine.
One of the problems is that you look at the world through
the eyes of Western history. I think that you will find
many, many cases of massacres that were instigated by
people who never claimed they were Christian. I am not saying
this to justify the massacres that were, but I am merely
pointing you to a tendency which is present in humans already.
Consider the world without Christianity. I doubt that we
would have the same freedoms in the countries in which we
live, if it wasn't for the peaceful doctrines of Jesus Christ.
Perhaps we would even be confronted by a very harsh religion
(I won't name any here, though one comes to mind) which
would not even allow us the freedom of speech to debate such
subjects.
Point the blame at inherent human tendencies of thirst for
power, greed and hatred. Please don't point the blame at
a message which preaches fundamental giving and denial, in
love for others.
Yours in Christ,
Andrew McVeigh
p.s. I believe that a line of questioning like you presented
is, strangely enough, compatible with becoming a Christian.
Certainly Christianity encourages one to question the behaviour
of the world, and especially Christians. I praise God for
Jesus Christ, and the fact that we can doubt our beliefs
and still come back to God and be forgiven, time and time
again.
--
*****
Andrew McVeigh
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0 | From: ()
Subject: Re: Yet more Rushdie [Re: ISLAMIC LAW]
Nntp-Posting-Host: nstlm66
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Lines: 21
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Gregg Jaeger) wrote:
>Khomeini advocates the view that
> there was a series of twelve Islamic leaders (the Twelve Imams) who
> are free of error or sin. This makes him a heretic.
>
Wow, you're quicker to point out heresy than the Church in the
Middle ages. Seriously though, even the Sheiks at Al-Azhar don't
claim that the Shi'ites are heretics. Most of the accusations
and fabrications about Shi'ites come out of Saudi Arabia from the
Wahabis. For that matter you should read the original works of
the Sunni Imams (Imams of the four madhabs). The teacher of
at least two of them was Imam Jafar Sadiq (the sixth Imam of the
Shi'ites).
Although there is plenty of false propaganda floating around
about the Shi'ites (esp. since the revolution), there are also
many good works by Shi'ites which present the views and teachings
of their school. Why make assumptions and allegations (like
people in this group have done about Islam in general) about Shi'ites.
| 10,718 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Mark E. Levy, ext. 8056)
Subject: Re: What do Nuclear Site's Cooling Towers do?
Nntp-Posting-Host: levy.fnal.gov
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division
Lines: 22
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (John Whitmore) writes:
> In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (John Eaton) writes:
>>-s87271077-s.walker-man-50- ([email protected]) wrote:
>
>>During the nuclear fission reaction the uranium fuel can get hot enough
>>to melt. When this happens the liquid uranium is pumped to the cooling
>>tower where it is sprayed into the air.
...
>>Contact with the cool outside air
>>will condense the mist and it will fall back to the cooling tower floor.
>>There it is collected by a cleaning crew using shop vacs and is then
>>reformed into pellets for reactor use the next day.
Another April 1 posting. Ahhh.
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| 10,719 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Brian Donnell)
Subject: FOR SALE: '91 Celica Repair Manuals
Nntp-Posting-Host: hotspare.arc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Lines: 12
Two-volume soft-cover repair manuals
for all models of '91 Toyota Celicas.
(Probably good for '92 models as well.)
Like new condition.
These are the manuals used by the
Toyota dealers' mechanics - they normally
cost over $80 new.
$50 OBO
Brian Donnell
[email protected]
| 10,720 |
0 | From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: A Message for you Mr. President: How do you know what happened?
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University
Lines: 24
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] writes:
> I told some friends of mine two weeks ago that Koresh was dead. The FBI and
> the BATF could not let a man like that live. He was a testimonial to their
> stupidity and lies.
>
[...deleted...]
Unfortunately, I think you've got it figured pretty well. I also ask
myself the question "Why did they plan for so many months. Why was
this so important to them? What was the government really up to?
Why did they seal the warrant? Were they after Koresh or were they after
the first and second amendments, among others?
>
> We waited 444 days for our hostages to come home from Iran. We gave these
> people 51 days.
>
--
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Joe Gaut | In the super-state, it really does not
<[email protected]> | matter at all what actually happened.
Remember the Alamo | Truth is what the government chooses to
Remember Waco | tell you. Justice is what it wants to happen.
--Jim Garrison, New Orleans, La.
| 10,721 |
0 | zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!uunet!olivea!sgigate!odin!fido!solntze.wpd.sgi.com!livesey
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
From: [email protected] (Jon Livesey)
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com
Lines: 28
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
|> (reference line trimmed)
|>
|> [email protected] (Jon Livesey) writes:
|>
|> [...]
|>
|> >There is a good deal more confusion here. You started off with the
|> >assertion that there was some "objective" morality, and as you admit
|> >here, you finished up with a recursive definition. Murder is
|> >"objectively" immoral, but eactly what is murder and what is not itself
|> >requires an appeal to morality.
|>
|> Yes.
|>
|> >Now you have switch targets a little, but only a little. Now you are
|> >asking what is the "goal"? What do you mean by "goal?". Are you
|> >suggesting that there is some "objective" "goal" out there somewhere,
|> >and we form our morals to achieve it?
|>
|> Well, for example, the goal of "natural" morality is the survival and
|> propogation of the species.
I got just this far. What do you mean by "goal"? I hope you
don't mean to imply that evolution has a conscious "goal".
jon.
| 10,722 |
0 | Subject: Re: more DoD paraphernalia
From: [email protected] (John Stafford)
Distribution: world
Organization: Winona State University
Nntp-Posting-Host: stafford.winona.msus.edu
Lines: 11
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Steve Bunis) wrote:
>
> How about a decal of thicker vinyl?
How about a Geeky temporary tatoo? I mean, why should the
RUBs be exempt from a little razzing.
====================================================
John Stafford Minnesota State University @ Winona
All standard disclaimers apply.
| 10,723 |
1 | From: [email protected] (Ken Mitchum)
Subject: Re: Menangitis question
Article-I.D.: pitt.19427
Reply-To: [email protected] (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 42
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Glen W Brooksby) writes:
>This past weekend a friend of mine lost his 13 month old
>daughter in a matter of hours to a form of menangitis. The
>person informing me called it 'Nicereal Meningicocis' (sp?).
>In retrospect, the disease struck her probably sometime on
>Friday evening and she passed away about 2:30pm on Saturday.
>The symptoms seemed to be a rash that started small and
>then began progressing rapidly. She began turning blue
>eventually which was the tip-off that this was serious
>but by that time it was too late (this is all second hand info.).
>
>My question is:
>Is this an unusual form of Menangitis? How is it transmitted?
>How does it work (ie. how does it kill so quickly)?
There are many organisms, viral, bacterial, and fungal, which can
cause meningitits, and the course of these infections varies
widely. The causes of bacterial meningitis vary with age: in adults
pneumococcus (the same organism which causes pneumococcal pneumonia)
is the most common cause, while in children Hemophilus influenzae
is the most common cause.
What you are describing is meningitis from Neisseria meningitidis,
which is the second most common cause of bacterial meningitis in
both groups, but with lower incidence in infants. This organism
is also called the "meningococcus", and is the source of the
common epidemics of meningitis that occur and are popularized in
the press. Without prompt treatment (and even WITH it in some cases),
the organism typically causes death within a day.
This organism, feared as it is, is actually grown from the throats
of many normal adults. It can get to the meninges by different
ways, but blood borne spread is probably the usual case.
Rifampin (an oral antibiotic) is often given to family and contacts
of a case of meningococcal meningitis, by the way.
Sorry, but I don't have time for a more detailed reply. Meningitis
is a huge topic, and sci.med can't do it justice.
-km
| 10,724 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Tsiel Ohayon)
Subject: Hamza does it again.
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited, Tokyo Japan
Lines: 18
Hamza answers one of my articles:
[TO] If indeed Israeli soldiers killed a "Hamas Mujahid" with an anti-tank
[TO] missile then I'm almost sure that the "terrorist zionists" would not
[TO] have been able to cut up a body which was probably desintegrated by the
[TO] missile.
[Hamza] maybe the missile didn't hit directly such that his body
[Hamza] gets "desintegrated." of course, destroying 10 houses to
[Hamza] kill someone is not a surgical operation, or is it?
Well done Hamza. You edited my answer to Anas Omran, took everything out
of context and then replied to it the way you wanted.
Now I really understand why the peace process is not making any progress.
You guys ain't listening, just babbling away to your same old rhetoric.
Tsiel
| 10,725 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Ken Hayashida)
Subject: Re: Life on Mars???
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Lines: 25
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
>I know it's only wishful thinking, with our current President,
>but this is from last fall:
>
> "Is there life on Mars? Maybe not now. But there will be."
> -- Daniel S. Goldin, NASA Administrator, 24 August 1992
>
>-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
> [email protected] (713) 483-4368
Lets hear it for Dan Goldin...now if he can only convince the rest of
our federal government that the space program is a worth while
investment!
I hope that I will live to see the day we walk on Mars, but
we need to address the technical hurdles first! If there's sufficient
interest, maybe we should consider starting a sci.space group
devoted to the technical analysis of long-duration human spaceflight.
Most of you regulars know that I'm interested in starting this analysis
as soon as possible.
Ken
[email protected]
USC School of Medicine, Class of 1994
| 10,726 |
0 | From: [email protected] (HINTZE_MATTHEW)
Subject: Re: Diamond Stelth 24- any good?
Organization: Idaho State University, Pocatello
Lines: 26
NNTP-Posting-Host: cwis.isu.edu
I bought the diamond stealth 24 a few months ago. it seems to be a
great card especially with my multimedia presentations. It runs graphics
and animation as well as some near full motion video very well. The only
thing I can tell that it lacks is speed above 256 colors. Its qualit in
between 256 and 16.7 million collors un unreal but you definitly
compromise speed. It seems to be a great card for graphics and it comes
with some great software, but Im not so sure about the excelerator
part. I used to own a paridise and it doesnt seem to be much faster
than that. One thing I do like is that it loads its own vesa driver
from ROM at startup, (I think) because I have never had to load it for
links386 or any other programs that require special VESA drivers at
startup.
gromi a16pd
[email protected]
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| 10,727 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Marty Helgesen)
Subject: Re: Question about Virgin Mary
Organization: City University of New York
Lines: 45
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Aziz
Faris) says:
>A.Faris
<<Posting deleted. The moderator replies:
>[I think you're talking about the "assumption of the Blessed Virgin
>Mary". It says that "The Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin
>Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed
>body and soul into heavenly glory." This was defined by a Papal
>statement in 1950, though it had certainly been believed by some
>before that. Like the Immaculate Conception, this is primarily a
>Roman Catholic doctrine, and like it, it has no direct Biblical
>support. Note that Catholics do not believe in "sola scriptura".
>That is, they do not believe that the Bible is the only source of
>Christian knowledge. Thus the fact that a doctrine has little
>Biblical support is not necessarily significant to them. They believe
>that truth can be passed on through traditions of the Church, and also
>that it can be revealed to the Church. I'm not interested in yet
>another Catholic/Protestant argument, but if any Catholics can tell us
>the basis for these beliefs, I think it would be appropriate. --clh]
That is generally accuate, but contains one serious error. We Catholics
do believe that God's revealed truth that is not explicitly recorded in
the Bible can be and is passed on through the Tradition of the Church.
It should be noted that the Tradition of the Church, otherwise known as
Sacred Tradition, is not the same as ordinary human traditions.
However, we do not believe that additional truth will be revealed to
the Church. Public revelation, which is the basis of Catholic doctrine,
ended with the death of St. John, the last Apostle. Nothing new can
be added. Theologians study this revelation and can draw out implications
that were not recognized previously, so that the Council of Nicea could
define statements about the theology of the Trinity and the Incarnation
that were not explicitly stated in the Bible and had been disputed
before the council, but there was no new revelation at Nicea or at
any subsequent council.
Cardinal Newman's _An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine_,
written while he was still an Anglican, is an excellent discussion of
of this point. It was recently reprinted as a Doubleday Image Books
paperback with some related shorter works under the title _Conscience,
Consensus, and the Development of Doctrine_.
-------
Marty Helgesen
Bitnet: mnhcc@cunyvm Internet: [email protected]
"What if there were no such thing as a hypothetical situation?"
| 10,728 |
0 | From: [email protected] (FULLER M)
Subject: Re: Riddle me this...
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Distribution: usa
Lines: 30
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Frank Crary) writes:
>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (FULLER M) writes:
>>That the gas was "not harmful", as the sensitive, caring Janet Reno described
>>it?
>
>Is it? As far as I know, tear gas, especially in large concentrations,
>is very dangerous (even toxic) for small children. This makes the
>FBI's supposedconcern for the safety of the children seem rather
>hypocritical.
>
Not to mention that the G-men believed the children didn't have gas masks.
But that was not, with respect to the children, the point of the gassing.
The feds *knew* that the children's health would be in danger and proceeded
under the assumption that the "motherly instinct" of the Davidian women
would remove them from harm's way. I busted a gut on that one.
Someone else on the net observed that the administration's appeal to a
woman's "motherly instinct" would never wash with feminists and liberals
if a republican were in the White House. I say that such an justification
could *only* come from a feminist mindset.
BTW - I'd read in the paper yesterday that the type of gas used was CS2.
The paper didn't provide any specifics about it.
"Guess I'm still writing..."
Malcolm Fuller, Surveying Engineering, University of New Brunswick
[email protected] or [email protected] }>:-/> --->
_____________ Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem ____________
| 10,729 |
0 | From: [email protected] (ROSS BARCLAY)
Subject: TWAIN drivers for Logitech Scanman
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Organization: Trent Computing and Telecommunications Department
Lines: 11
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not Logitech had
Windows TWAIN drivers for the Scanman. If so, are the drivers on the
net somewhere? My Scanman is the model one down from the Scanman 256.
Thanks in advance.
Ross Barclay
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Ross Barclay -- [email protected] Peterborough, Ontario
| 10,730 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Erwin H. Keeve)
Subject: Polygon Reduction for Marching Cubes
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
Lines: 36
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de
Keywords: Polygon Reduction, Marching Cubes, Surfaces, Midical Visualisation
Dear Reader,
I'am searching for an implementation of a polygon reduction algorithm
for marching cubes surfaces. I think the best one is the reduction algorithm
from Schroeder et al., SIGGRAPH '92. So, is there any implementation of this
algorithm, it would be very nice if you could leave it to me.
Also I'am looking for a fast !!! connectivity
test for marching cubes surfaces.
Any help or hints will be very useful.
Thanks a lot
,,,
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| 10,731 |
0 | From: [email protected] (David Davidian)
Subject: Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES (Henrik)
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Lines: 93
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Hilmi Eren)
responsed to [email protected] who wrote:
[h] The Armenians in Nagarno-Karabagh are simply DEFENDING their RIGHTS
[h] to keep their homeland and it is the AZERIS that are INVADING their
[h] territorium...
[HE] Homeland? First Nagarno-Karabagh was Armenians homeland today
[HE] Fizuli, Lacin and several villages (in Azerbadjan)
[HE] are their homeland. Can't you see the
[HE] the "Great Armenia" dream in this?
Greater Armenia would stretch from Karabakh, to the Black Sea, to the
Mediterranean, so if you use the term "Greater Armenia" use it with care.
[HE] With facist methods like
[HE] killing, raping and bombing villages. The last move was the
[HE] blast of a truck with 60 kurdish refugees, trying to
[HE] escape the from Lacin, a city that was "given" to the Kurds
[HE] by the Armenians.
It has always been up to the Azeris to end their announced winning of Karabakh
by removing the Armenians! When the president of Azerbaijan, Elchibey, came to
power last year, he announced he would be be "swimming in Lake Sevan [in
Armeniaxn] by July". Well, he was wrong! If Elchibey is going to shell the
Armenians of Karabakh from Aghdam, his people will pay the price! If Elchibey
is going to shell Karabakh from Fizuli his people will pay the price! If
Elchibey thinks he can get away with bombing Armenia from the hills of
Kelbajar, his people will pay the price.
It also seems other non-Azeri minorities in Azerbaijan have understood they
are next in line in this process of forced Azerification or deportation. Just
look at the situation with the Lezgians.
About the Kurds...what Kurds! According to the Azerbaijani government, there
are no Kurds in Azerbaijan. Can't they make up their minds? Oh I see, there
are only Kurds when the Azeris want them to be Kurds! And anyway, this "60
Kurd refugee" story, as have other stories, are simple fabrications sourced in
Baku, modified in Ankara. Other examples of this are Armenia has no border
with Iran, and the ridiculous story of the "intercepting" of Armenian military
conversations as appeared in the New York Times supposedly translated by
somebody unknown, from Armenian into Azeri Turkish, submitted by an unnamed
"special correspondent" to the NY Times from Baku. Real accurate!
[h] However, I hope that the Armenians WILL force a TURKISH airplane
[h] to LAND for purposes of SEARCHING for ARMS similar to the one
[h] that happened last SUMMER. Turkey searched an AMERICAN plane
[h] (carrying humanitarian aid) bound to ARMENIA.
[h]
No, Henrik, these Turkish planes should be shot down with no questions asked.
[HE] Don't speak about things you don't know: 8 American Cargo planes
[HE] were heading to Armenia. When the Turkish authorities
[HE] announced that they were going to search these cargo
[HE] planes 3 of these planes returned to it's base in Germany.
[HE] 5 of these planes were searched in Turkey. The content of
[HE] of the other 3 planes? Not hard to guess, is it? It was sure not
[HE] humanitarian aid.....
Your "facts" in error. Shipments of all kinds that have transversed Turkey
have been either searched, re-routed or confiscated. Some American planes
were searched, others were re-routed, others were untouched. Rail shipments
were held up last fall and last winter from entering Armenian from Turkey
for the purpose of aiding in the economic collapse of Armenia. Wheat was
confiscated, other shipments were exchanged with "crap" and dirt, then
shipped to Armenia. U.S. planes don't have to use Turkish air bases. The U.S.
uses these bases to bomb Iraq. Anyway, U.S. planes can fly over Georgia, which
they have found is easier than to endure unnecessary expressions of Turkish
chauvinism through searches of cargo which to this day have not revealed
anything other than a paranoid Turkish military.
[HE] Search Turkish planes? You don't know what you are talking about.
[HE] since it's content is announced to be weapons?
Well, big mouth Ozal said military weapons are being provided to Azerbaijan
from Turkey, yet Demirel and others say no. No wonder you are so confused!
[HE] Turkey's government has announced that it's giving weapons
[HE] to Azerbadjan since Armenia started to attack Azerbadjan
[HE] it self, not the Karabag province. So why search a plane for weapons
[HE] since it's content is announced to be weapons?
You are correct, all Turkish planes should be simply shot down! Nice, slow
moving air transports!
--
David Davidian [email protected] | "How do we explain Turkish troops on
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | the Armenian border, when we can't
P.O. Box 382761 | even explain 1915?"
Cambridge, MA 02238 | Turkish MP, March 1992
| 10,732 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Adam Shostack)
Subject: Re: Legality of the Jewish Purchase
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Lines: 104
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
>Adam Shostack writes:
>> Sam Zbib writes
> >>I'm surprised that you don't consider the acquisition of land by
> >>the Jews from arabs, for the purpose of establishing an exclusive
> >>state, as a hostile action leading to war.
>> It was for the purpose of establishing a state, not an
>> exclusive state. If the state was to be exclusive, it would not have
>> 400 000 arab citizens.
>Could you please tell me what was the ethnic composition of
>Israel right after it was formed.
100% Israeli citizens. The ethnic composition depends on what
you mean by formed. What the UN deeded to Israel? What it won in war?
>> And no, I do not consider the purchase of land a hostile
>> action. When someone wants to buy land, and someone else is willing
>> to sell it, at a mutually agreeable price, then that is commerce. It
>> is not a hostile action leading to war.
>No one in his right mind would sell his freedom and dignity.
>Palestinians are no exception. Perhaps you heard about
>anti-trust in the business world.
Were there anti-trust laws in place in mandatory Palestine?
Since the answer is no, you're argument, while interestingly
constructed, is irrelevant. I will however, respond to a few points
you assert in the course of talking about anti-trust laws.
>They were establishing a bridgehead for the European Jews.
And those fleeing Arab lands, where Jews were second class
citizens.
>Plus they paid fair market value, etc...
Jews often paid far more than fair market value for the land
they bought.
>They did not know they were victims of an international conspiracy.
You know, Sam, when people start talking about an
International Jewish conspiracy, its really begins to sound like
anti-Semitic bull.
The reason there is no conspiracy here is quite simple.
Zionists made no bones about what was going on. There were
conferences, publications, etc, all talking about creating a National
home for the Jews.
>>>Israel gave citizenship to the remaining arabs because it
>>>had to maintain a democratic facade (to keep the western aid
>>>flowing).
>> Israel got no western aid in 1948, nor in 1949 or 50...It
>>still granted citizenship to those arabs who remained. And how
>>is granting citizenship a facade?
>Don't get me wrong. I beleive that Israel is democratic
>within the constraints of one dominant ethnic group (Jews).
[...]
>'bad' arabs. Personaly, I've never heard anything about the
>arab community in Isreal. Except that they're there. So
>yes, they're there. But as a community with history and
>roots, its dead.
Because you've never heard of it, its dead? The fact is, you
claimed Israel had to give arabs rights because of (non-existant)
International aid. Then you see that that argument has a hole you
could drive a truck through, and again assert that Israel is only
democratic within the (unexplained) constraints of one ethnic group.
The problem with that argument is that Arabs are allowed to vote for
whoever they please. So, please tell me, Sam, what constraints are
there on Israeli democracy that don't exist in other democratic
states?
I've never heard anything about the Khazakistani arab
population. Does that mean that they have no history or roots? When
I was at Ben Gurion university in Israel, one of my neighbors was an
Israeli arab. He wasn't really all that different from my other
neighbors. Does that make him dead or oppressed?
>I stand corrected. I meant that the jewish culture was not
>predominant in Palestine in recent history. I have no
>problem with Jerusalem having a jewish character if it were
>predominantly Jewish. So there. what to make of the rest
>Palestine?
How recent is recent? I can probably build a case for a
Jewish Gaza city. It would be pretty silly, but I could do it. I'm
arguing not that Jerusalem is Jewish, but that land has no ethnicity.
Adam
Adam Shostack [email protected]
"If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure
wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
| 10,733 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Craig Keithley)
Subject: Re: Why not give $1 billion to first year-lo
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Lines: 80
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Allen W. Sherzer)
wrote:
>
> In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Henry Spencer) writes:
>
> >>This prize isn't big enough to warrent developing a SSTO, but it is
> >>enough to do it if the vehicle exists.
>
> >Actually, there are people who will tell you that it *would* be enough
> >to do SSTO development, if done privately as a cut-rate operation. Of
> >course, they may be over-optimistic.
>
> In spite of my great respect for the people you speak of, I think their
> cost estimates are a bit over-optimistic. If nothing else, a working SSTO
> is at least as complex as a large airliner and has a smaller experience
> base. It therefore seems that SSTO development should cost at least as
> much as a typical airliner development. That puts it in the $3G to $5G
> range.
>
For the purpose of a contest, I'd bet some things could be cut. Like fuel
for re-entry, any kind of heat shielding, etc., etc. Even still, if the
contest participants had to fund DC-1 development, it probably wouldn't be
worth it to develop DC-1 (just for the contest). Just give me the cheapest
heaviest lift man rated (or at least under 6 or so Gs) booster... If I
don't have to pay for DC-1 development, great!, I'll use it.
But back to the contest goals, there was a recent article in AW&ST about a
low cost (it's all relative...) manned return to the moon. A General
Dynamics scheme involving a Titan IV & Shuttle to lift a Centaur upper
stage, LEV, and crew capsule. The mission consists of delivering two
unmanned payloads to the lunar surface, followed by a manned mission.
Total cost: US was $10-$13 billion. Joint ESA(?)/NASA project was $6-$9
billion for the US share.
I didn't find a mention of how long the crew could stay, but I'd bet that
its around 30 days. And the total payload delivered was about 30 metric
tonnes. So if you ignore the scientific payload, hitch a ride in the crew
habitation module (no return trip...), and toss in a few more tonnes for
the additional consumables to last another 11 months, then you *might* be
able to get a year visit out of 15 tonnes (and in case its not obvious,
that's a wild ass guess). A pretty boring visit, since every trip outdoors
eats up a bit of LOX. And I'm not certain if a home brewed (or
college-brewed) life support system could last a year. But let's round
this up to 19.4 tonnes (convient, since the GD plan talks about 9.7 ton
payloads delivered to the lunar surface. This adds up to two Centaurs, two
LEVs, two Shuttle flights... All to put a single man on the moon for a
year. Hmmm. Not really practical. Anyone got a cheaper/better way of
delivering 15-20 tonnes to the lunar surface within the decade? Anyone
have a more precise guess about how much a year's supply of consumables and
equipment would weigh?
And I was wondering about the GD LEV. Is it reusable? Or is it discarded
to burn up on return to LEO? If its not discarded, could it be refueled?
Henry: Do you know anything about the GD LEV? I noted that it uses RL-10
engines. Aren't they reusable/restartable? Would a LEV fit in a DC-1?
I've forgotten (if I ever knew) what the cargo bay dimensions are for the
DC-1.
All in all, I'm not certain that the single goal/prize of staying on the
moon for a year is wise and/or useful. How about: A prize for the first
non-government sponsered unmanned moon landing, then another for a manned
moon landing, then yet another for a system to extract consumables from
lunar soil, another for a reusable earth/moon shuttle, and so forth. Find
some way to build civilian moonbase infrastructure... Having a single goal
might result in a bunch of contestents giving up after one person appeared
to win. And for those that didn't give up, I find something a little scary
about a half dozen people huddling in rickety little moon shelters. I'd
like to see as much a reward for co-operation as for competition.
Lastly, about ten or fifteen years back I seem to recall that there was an
English space magazine that had an on-going discussion about moonbases on
the cheap. I recalled it discussed things like how much heat the human
body produced, how much lunar material it'd need for protection from solar
flares, etc. Unfortunately I don't remember the name of this magazine.
Does this ring a bell to anyone?
Craig Keithley |"I don't remember, I don't recall,
Apple Computer, Inc. |I got no memory of anything at all"
[email protected] |Peter Gabriel, Third Album (1980)
| 10,734 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Don't knock the Glock (was Re: My Gun is like my Am Ex Card)
Lines: 36
Nntp-Posting-Host: skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Distribution: usa
In article <[email protected]>, Jason Kratz <[email protected]> writes:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Vincent
>Fox) says:
>>
>All your points are very well taken and things that I haven't considered as
>I am not really familiar enough with handguns.
>
>>Some police departments switched to Glocks, and then started quietly
>>switching many officers back to the old revolvers. Too many were having
>>accidents, partly due to the poor training they received. Not that Glocks
>>require rocket scientists, but some cops are baffled by something as complex
>>as the timer on a VCR.
>
>Hell, a Glock is the last thing that should be switched to. The only thing
>that I know about a Glock is the lack of a real safety on it. Sure there is
>that little thing in the trigger but that isn't too great of a safety.
Ahem!!! Hrumph!!!! You have encurred the wrath of Glock owners. We will beat
you with our hammers. Oooops, don't have any :-)
Seriously. There is no difference in the safeties betweena Glock and any DA
revolver. Intellectually, think of the Glock as a very high cap revolver.
Ignoring stove pipes, misfeeds and all the other bonus exercises that
autoloaders give you, that is.
Every gun has its safe moment and its dangerous moment. If you just learn how
to handle it, it becomes a lot less dangerous (to you).
--
Dillon Pyron | The opinions expressed are those of the
TI/DSEG Lewisville VAX Support | sender unless otherwise stated.
(214)462-3556 (when I'm here) |
(214)492-4656 (when I'm home) |Texans: Vote NO on Robin Hood. We need
[email protected] |solutions, not gestures.
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| 10,735 |
0 | Reply-To: [email protected] (Jeff Freeman)
From: [email protected] (Jeff Freeman)
Subject: Re: Question/Suggestion for Everyone - Please Read
Lines: 28
>
>If both paries do this, then the transaction will obviously
>be COD. This allows both parties to exercise the amount of
>trust they see fit.
COD is fine until the buyer opens the box to find they paid 150.00
for a brick. Or if it the seller allows for a personal check to be used
on a COD it's fine till a stop payment is made. There are few methods
to protect both buyer and seller in any sort of transaction. Even with
merchants and customers there are problems...stolen credit cards,
chargebacks, no return policies and getting the wrong item, etc.
About the only protection available to to do business with someone you
trust....someone who has been around for a while.
Jeff
________________________________________________________________________
Jeff Freeman 1-800-GO-PORCH Toll-Free
Front Porch Computers 1-706-695-1888 <voice>
Rt 2 Box 2178 1-706-695-1990 <fax>
Chatsworth, GA 30705 75260,21 Compuserve ID #
Internet: [email protected]
________________________________________________________________________
| 10,736 |
0 | From: [email protected] (The Devil Reincarnate)
Subject: Re: Changing oil by self.
Organization: CDAC, WA
Lines: 27
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Don Eilenberger) writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Yik Chong Lam) writes:
>|> Hello,
>|>
>|> Does anyone know how to take out the bolt under the engine
>|> compartment? Should I turn clockwise or counter? I tried any kind
>|> of lubricants, WD-40,etc, but I still failed!
>|> Do you think I can use a electric drill( change to a suitable
>|> bit ) to turn it out? If I can succeed, can I re-tighten it not too
>|> tight, is it safe without oil leak?
>|> Thank you very much in advance------ Winson
I would suggest you take the car to the nearest Chevron dealer, with
your own oil and filter. Ask for an oil change. It will cost less
than $10. Watch him/her do it. Just from watching someone do a job,
you will be able to learn and remember the sequence, and do it right
when you do it yourself the next time. Besides, when he/she loosens
the drain nut, the next time around it will be easier for you.
If it is stuck, use an impact wrench. Not too much force though.
Use a new washer each time you put the nut back.....
-S
[email protected]
| 10,737 |
0 | From: [email protected] (John R. Daker)
Subject: Re: First Bike?? and Wheelies
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Lines: 24
Reply-To: [email protected] (John R. Daker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu
In a previous article, [email protected] (James Leo Belliveau) says:
> Anyone,
>
> I am a serious motorcycle enthusiast without a motorcycle, and to
>put it bluntly, it sucks. I really would like some advice on what would
>be a good starter bike for me. I do know one thing however, I need to
>make my first bike a good one, because buying a second any time soon is
>out of the question. I am specifically interested in racing bikes, (CBR
>600 F2, GSX-R 750). I know that this may sound kind of crazy
>considering that I've never had a bike before, but I am responsible, a
>fast learner, and in love. Please give me any advice that you think
>would help me in my search, including places to look or even specific
>bikes that you want to sell me.
>
> Thanks :-)
The answer is obvious: ZX-11 D.
--
DoD #650<----------------------------------------------------------->DarkMan
The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of
thinking we were at when we created them. - Albert Einstein
___________________The Eternal Champion_________________
| 10,738 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Tod Treganowan)
Subject: For Sale: UREI 527A 27-band Equalizer
Organization: Pitt
Lines: 15
I have a UREI 527A 27-band (mono) Equilizer for sale. Anyone who knows
this unit knows it's been a recording studio standard for years. It's a
pretty straightforward unit, with balanced ins and outs. Power supply caps
were recently replaced, and I added XLR connectors (which can be easily
removed if you prefer, as I mounted them on a bracket outside the case).
The unit is in good shape, and is sonically very clean.
I'm asking $225 + UPS shipping. They're going for $250 generally. Make me
an offer.
Tod Treganowan
Computing and Information Services
University of Pittsburgh
(412) 624-6115 @work, 371-0154 @home
| 10,739 |
0 | Subject: thanks to poster of NY Times article on ATF in Texas
From: [email protected] (John Kim)
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center
Nntp-Posting-Host: scws8.harvard.edu
Lines: 12
good job to whoever posted the article. I'd
been saving that NYTimes edition for a while, planning to ytpe it
in myself, but now I don't have to.
For all of those people who were worried about whether or not
the media would even question the raid, we owe it to the
NY Times (despite their rabidly anti-gun editorials) for
being willing to talk to these 4 BATF agents.
-Case Kim
| 10,740 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Eugene E Rosen)
Subject: Centris 610/tms 120 drive
Article-I.D.: world.C5Jq8A.3I9
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Lines: 14
I recently purchased a Centris 610 and am having difficulty getting
my computer to recognize my hard disk drive (external) Using both the
disk uitily of TMS (Diskwriter) and Jasmine's software, neither one
will show the drive. The drive is the only device connected to the
scuzzi port. I cant find the manual to the tms pro 120 and seem to
remember that it is "terminated". Is there something else that I am
doing (or not doing) that does not allow my 610 to recognize my external
disk drive?.
thanks in advance for the information.
--
Eugene E. Rosen GENIE: erosen
22 Riverside Road COMPUSERVE:74066,3444
Sandy Hook, Ct. 06482-1213 AOL: Gene Rosen
| 10,741 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Dan Ramage)
Subject: Re: Help with backpack
Keywords: backpack, rucksack, knee protection
Article-I.D.: weber.ramage.734101015
Organization: USC Department of Computer Science
Lines: 33
[email protected] (Sanjay Sinha) writes:
>As summer approaches, the usual preparations are being made...
>Me was thinking of going for some overnite camping trips in the local
>state forests. For that I was planning to get a backpack/rucksack.
>The next question is how shall I carry the thing on the bike, given
>the metal frame and all. I have a big backrest (approx 12" high) and
>was hoping that I would be able to bungee cord the backpack to the backrest.
>Any one have any experiences on such experimentation?
>Taking the idea further, what would happen if the backpack was fully
>loaded with a full load (40lbs). Is the load distribution going to
>be very severly affected? How will the bike perform with such a load
>clinging to the back rest. If I really secure it, with no shifting,
>do I still increase my chances of surfing?
I ride my bike regularly to classes with my book bag. I take
the shoulder straps on the bag, and hook them around the rear turn
signals. I works fine. You probably will want to attach it with
a bungee cord to keep it from shifting to one side or another.
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| 10,742 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Anthony Lai)
Subject: <<<< SALE: 3 Software Packages ... pcANYWHERE, antivirus, deltagraph >>>
Nntp-Posting-Host: balboa.eng.uci.edu
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Lines: 28
Hello,
I have three software packages for sale:
1. The Norton pcANYWHERE version 4.5 for dos. This software
include host and remote software. It can control both
dos and windows 3.1 (both standard and enhanced modes)
activities. Registration card is enclosed.
Price: $40.00
2. The Norton AntiVirus for windows and dos version 2.1. It
can update virus information any time. It also support
networks. Registration card is enclosed.
Price: $40.00
3. DeltaGraph Professional for Windows 3.1. This is the BEST
graphics presentation program I have ever seen. Registration
card is enclosed. Reg. Price: $495.00
Price: $150.00
Thank you for your attention.
Anthony Lai
| 10,743 |
0 | From: [email protected] (David Feustel)
Subject: BATF's Prime Directive
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Lines: 7
Bully, Them; Bludgeon Them, Bury Them.
--
Dave Feustel N9MYI <[email protected]>
I'm beginning to look forward to reaching the %100 allocation of taxes
to pay for the interest on the national debt. At that point the
federal government will be will go out of business for lack of funds.
| 10,744 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Steve Birnbaum)
Subject: Re: Israeli Expansion-lust
Reply-To: [email protected] (Steve Birnbaum)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Lines: 24
In a previous article, [email protected] (M. Hasan AlHafez) says:
>So the wars of 1948, 1956, 1967, 1968 (Karama), 1978, and 1982 were
>all started by Arabs.
The wars of 1948, 1956, 1967, 1978 were definitely started by the Arabs.
The war in 1982 was instigated by the Arabs who continually murdered
Israeli children with their rocket attacks. Israel was only trying to
stop this.
Last what the heck are you talking about with "1968 (Karama)"? There was
no war in 1968!
Steve
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| 10,745 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Josh Hopkins)
Subject: Re: DC-X: Vehicle Nears Flight Test
Article-I.D.: news.C51rzx.AC3
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 34
[email protected] writes:
[Excellent discussion of DC-X landing techniques by Henry deleted]
>Since the DC-X is to take off horizontal, why not land that way??
The DC-X will not take of horizontally. It takes of vertically.
>Why do the Martian Landing thing..
For several reasons. Vertical landings don't require miles of runway and limit
noise pollution. They don't require wheels or wings. Just turn on the engines
and touch down. Of course, as Henry pointed out, vetical landings aren't quite
that simple.
>Or am I missing something.. Don't know to
>much about DC-X and such.. (overly obvious?).
Well, to be blunt, yes. But at least you're learning.
>Why not just fall to earth like the russian crafts?? Parachute in then...
The Soyuz vehicles use parachutes for the descent and then fire small rockets
just before they hit the ground. Parachutes are, however, not especially
practical if you want to reuse something without much effort. The landings
are also not very comfortable. However, in the words of Georgy Grechko,
"I prefer to have bruises, not to sink."
--
Josh Hopkins [email protected]
"Tout ce qu'un homme est capable d'imaginer, d'autres hommes
seront capable de la realiser"
-Jules Verne
| 10,746 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Louis van Dompselaar)
Subject: Re: images of earth
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
Lines: 17
In <[email protected]> [email protected] (Rick Turner) writes:
>Look in the /pub/SPACE directory on ames.arc.nasa.gov - there are a number
>of earth images there. You may have to hunt around the subdirectories as
>things tend to be filed under the mission (ie, "APOLLO") rather than under
>the image subject.
>
For those of you who don't need 24 bit, I got a 32 colour Amiga IFF
of a cloudless Earth (scanned). Looks okay when mapped on a sphere.
E-mail me and I'll send it you...
Louis
--
I'm hanging on your words, Living on your breath, Feeling with your skin,
Will I always be here? -- In Your Room [ DM ]
| 10,747 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Steve L. Moseley)
Subject: Re: Observation re: helmets
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance
Lines: 20
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: microb0.biostat.washington.edu
In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>If your primary concern is protecting the passenger in the event of a
>crash, have him or her fitted for a helmet that is their size. If your
>primary concern is complying with stupid helmet laws, carry a real big
>spare (you can put a big or small head in a big helmet, but not in a
>small one).
So what should I carry if I want to comply with intelligent helmet laws?
(The above comment in no way implies support for any helmet law, nor should
such support be inferred. A promise is a promise.)
Steve
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley [email protected]
Microbiology SC-42 Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington FAX: (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
| 10,748 |
0 | From: mathew <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.
X-Newsreader: rusnews v1.02
Lines: 9
[email protected] (Ben Aveling) writes:
> Don't forget, you are in the country that wouldn't let the Russians
> buy Apple II's because of security concerns.
That's nothing. They wouldn't let the British buy Inmos Transputer systems
because of security concerns. And we designed the damn things!
mathew
| 10,749 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Michael Panayiotakis)
Subject: Re: Share your optimization tips
Article-I.D.: seas.1993Apr6.155426.14581
Organization: George Washington University
Lines: 46
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (richard.m.maniscalco) writes:
>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (John Bodnar) writes:
>>According to [email protected] (edgar pearlstein):
>>> Here's another one:
>>>
>>> 5. My computer arrived with the following statement in its
>>> config.sys file: STACKS = 9,256. I changed it to
>>> STACKS = 8,128 and saved 1296 bytes. Maybe it could be
>>> lowered even more, but I haven't tried it.
>>
>>Exactly.
>>
>>Regardless of what Microsoft says, I have set STACKS=0,0 on every single
>>computer I have installed Windows on from a simple 386SX-16 up to 486DX-50
>>with EISA motherboards, NDI Volante TIGA adapters, Intel Ethernet Express
>>cards, and caching SCSI controllers from DPT and DTC.
>>
>>Not a problem yet, and the extra 2K+ gained means a lot with conventional
>>memory gobbling programs like OrCAD and Tango PCB.
>>--
>>John Bodnar : "While we liked developing Windows
>>The University of Texas at Austin : applications, we never inhaled."
>>Internet: [email protected] :
>>UUCP: ....!cs.utexas!ut-ccwf!jbodnar : -- Borland CEO Philippe Kahn
>
>
>
>I remember reading somewhere (QEMM manual, I think) that
>STACK=9,256 is needed only for the Windows SETUP program.
>Otherwise, use STACK=0,0.
>
> Rich>
>
Hmmmmmm...I got my comp with windows pre-installed, and stacks is still
9,256. if it was needed only for setup, wouldn't the morons take it
off??? (also, I don't have the qemm manual, as verything came with the
comp, but not the qemm manual, so could anyone verify this???)
Mickey
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| 10,750 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Bill Conner)
Subject: Re: Gospel Dating
Nntp-Posting-Host: okcforum.osrhe.edu
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Lines: 22
Jim Perry ([email protected]) wrote:
: The Bible says there is a God; if that is true then our atheism is
: mistaken. What of it? Seems pretty obvious to me. Socrates said
: there were many gods; if that is true then your monotheism (and our
: atheism) is mistaken, even if Socrates never existed.
Jim,
I think you must have come in late. The discussion (on my part at
least) began with Benedikt's questioning of the historical acuuracy of
the NT. I was making the point that, if the same standards are used to
validate secular history that are used here to discredit NT history,
then virtually nothing is known of the first century.
You seem to be saying that the Bible -cannot- be true because it
speaks of the existence of God as it it were a fact. Your objection
has nothing to do with history, it is merely another statement of
atheism.
Bill
| 10,751 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Subject: Re: Do we need the clipper for cheap security?
Originator: [email protected]
Nntp-Posting-Host: qualcom.qualcomm.com
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Lines: 36
[email protected] (Graham Toal) writes:
>Can someone tell me if hardware compression is or is not needed to run
>digital speech down 14.4K? I think it is; I've heard it's not. Lets
>say 8 bit samples. Would *raw* data at the corresponding sampling rate
>be usable? If not, how fancy does the compression need to be?
A good vocoder like ours will give you 8000 bits per second locked at
full rate (it's a variable rate voice activity vocoder). If you want
less quality, cut that to 4000 bps (half rate). At full rate variable
you could put two full-duplex conversations on a V.32bis modem. This
requires a DSP or ASICs, though. An RS-6000 has a CPU that could
probably do it in real-time, because it has the add-and-multiply
instruction and a few other DSP things.
If you want to do speech in real-time you need about 4000 samples a
second (for not very good voice) with your 8 bit samples (ISDN is 8000
8-bit samples a second), which is 32 kbps. You could do a fast 2:1
compression on that to get it down to 16 kbps, which is just about
V.32bis. The quality at this point is very bleah, but it should work.
Now add in the time for your encryption method. You're going to need
sampling hardware, which is no problem on a new Mac, an Amiga. Or a
PC with a SoundBlaster card (just because they're so popular and cheap
- you could also build a simple ADC). The problem with the
SoundBlaster is that it doesn't seem to be full duplex - you can't
sample and play backq at the same time, making a two-way conversation
a bit tough. The special hardware or a more capable sound card may be
required.
The only thing that worries me is that 2:1 compression - the
SoundBlaster can do it automatically in hardware, but other than that
I don't have a good feel for how processor intensive it is, so I can't
estimate how fast a PC you'd need.
--
Not all men who drink are poets. Some of us drink because we are not poets.
| 10,752 |
0 | From: diablo.UUCP!cboesel (Charles Boesel)
Subject: Why does Illustrator AutoTrace so poorly?
Organization: Diablo Creative
Reply-To: diablo.UUCP!cboesel (Charles Boesel)
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2
Lines: 12
I've been trying to figure out a way to get Adobe Illustrator
to auto-trace >exactly< what I see on my screen. But it misses
the edges of templates by as many as 6 pixels or more - resulting in images
that are useless - I need exact tracing, not approximate.
I've tried adjusting the freehand tolerances as well as autotrace
tolerances but it doesn't help. Any suggestions?
--
charles boesel @ diablo creative | If Pro = for and Con = against
[email protected] | Then what's the opposite of Progress?
+1.510.980.1958(pager) | What else, Congress.
| 10,753 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Will Taber)
Subject: Re: Question about Virgin Mary
Lines: 31
[email protected] (Dave Davis) writes:
[ Much deletion. He is trying to explain the Immaculate Conception
and the Assumption of Mary.]
> 'Original sin' is the only reason (fallen) humanity
> dies. Adam and Eve would not have died had they
> not fallen.
If this is true than why in the Genesis story is God concerned that
Adam and Eve might also eat from the Tree of Life and live forever and
be like gods? Eating of the tree of life would not take away the
effects of eating of the Tree of Knowledge. Is there any reason to
assume that they had already eaten of the Tree of Life and so had
already attained to eternal life? If so, what basis is there for
saying that this was taken away from them? To me the wages of sin are
a spiritual death, not necessarily a physical death. I
can attest to the truth of this interpretation from my own experience.
I suspect that many others could attest to this as well.
Peace
Will
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| 10,754 |
0 | From: [email protected] (JT)
Subject: Re: Your Custom Resume on Disk!!
Nntp-Posting-Host: bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Lines: 11
In article <[email protected]> Tami Grudzinski <[email protected]> writes:
> Your Custom Resume On Disk!
>
> *Macintosh or IBM compatible!*
>
> Never pay the high cost of copy service again. We will completely
>develop and format your custom resume package and mail you the disk or
> [blah blah blah deleted]
Who's "We"? Carnegie Mellon?
| 10,755 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Amgad Z. Bassili)
Subject: Need a book
Lines: 4
I appreciate if anyone can point out some good books about the dead sea
scrolls of Qumran. Thanks in advance.
Please reply by e-mail at <[email protected]>
| 10,756 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Christopher Williamson)
Subject: ** Oscilloscope for sale $99 + probes $25 ea. **
Nntp-Posting-Host: tigger.cs.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Distribution: na
Lines: 13
I have a Tektronix T921 15Mhz scope for sale. It is a nice, simple
unit to learn on. I used it while I was in school. If you want one
to play with at home, this is easy and inexpensive. It has a nice
handle and is quite lightweight and easy to move around.
I will consider selling the probes seperately for $25 ea. They are HP
10017A probes suitable for this type of scope. The probes are NOT
included in the price of $99 for the scope.
If you need more technical info, you will have to come look at it, as
I am not a scope expert and what I have said is all I know.
Chris
| 10,757 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Beth Dixon)
Subject: Re: Ducati 400 opinions wanted
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Lines: 42
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Frank Ball) writes:
>Godfrey DiGiorgi ([email protected]) wrote:
>&
>& The Ducati 400 model is essentially a reduced displacement 750, which
>& means it weighs the same and is the same size as the 750 with far less
>& power. It is produced specifically to meet a vehicle tax restriction
>
>The Ducati 750 model is essentially a reduced displacement 900, which
>means it weighs the same and is the same size as the 900 with far less
>power. And less brakes.
Bzzzt. The 750SS is 40 pounds lighter than the 900SS. I personally,
and recently, witnessed my 750SS do a stoppie with a larger-than-
average rider aboard. He said it took two fingers on that measely
single front disk to accomplish the task. How much more brake do
you need?
>As such, it's somewhat large and overweight for its motor. It will
>still handle magnificently, it just won't be very fast. There are
>very few other flaws to mention; the limited steering lock is the
>annoyance noted by most testers. And the mirrors aren't perfect.
I haven't gone over 4000 rpm yet (still in break in) and haven't
had a problem with the 750SS being too slow. The limited steering
lock can be a problem if you aren't prepared for it. The mirrors
are very good, IMHO. Someone forgot to tell their designer about
the "whazza behind you, she no matta" philosophy.
>Hewlett Packard (707) 794-3844 fax, (707) 538-3693 home
>1212 Valley House Drive IT175, XT350, Seca 750, '62 F-100, PL510
Hmmmm. I don't see a 400, 750 _or_ 900SS in your .sig. Did I miss
something?
Beth
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Beth [The One True Beth] Dixon [email protected]
1981 Yamaha SR250 "Excitable Girl" DoD #0384
1979 Yamaha SR500 "Spike the Garage Rat" FSSNOC #1843
1992 Ducati 750SS AMA #631903
1963 Ducati 250 Monza -- restoration project 1KQSPT = 1.8
"I can keep a handle on anything just this side of deranged."
-- ZZ Top
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| 10,758 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Sanjai Kukreti)
Subject: Advice on used car?
Lines: 11
Organization: University of Waterloo
Hi, I was looking for some helpful advice.
I'm a university student with about $7000 to spend, and I'm looking for a
used car. Does anyone have any useful advice they could offer to a first-
time buyer? I'm not looking for anything sporty, just something functional
and reliable (less maintenance costs). Anybody have any ideas on what models
might suit me?
Thanks
Sanjai
| 10,759 |
0 | From: [email protected] (fisher greg)
Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players?
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Lines: 16
NNTP-Posting-Host: eecae.ee.msu.edu
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Roger Lustig) writes:
>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (David Fry) writes:
>
>>Once, on Jeopardy, the category was "Jewish Sports Heros," believe it
>>or not. The answer was, "This pitcher had four no-hitters with the
>>Dodgers in the 60s." The contestant said, "Who is Hank Aaron?" Alex
>>Trebek said something like, "I don't think Hank Aaron was a pitcher."
>
>Well, it *is* a Jewish name...
>
>8-)
>
>Roger
That's right. Remember Hank Greenberg??!!
| 10,760 |
0 | From: Center for Policy Research <[email protected]>
Subject: Zionism - racism
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1483500362:000:2842
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!cpr Apr 25 05:27:00 1993
Lines: 76
From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Zionism - racism
Diaspora 'a cancer'
------------------- by Julian Kossoff and Lindsay Schusman in:
Jewish Chronicle, London, 22. Dec. 1989
Leading Israeli author and cultural commentator, A.B. Yehoshua,
launched a ferocious attack on diaspora Jewry at a Zionist Youth
Council meeting in North London, last week.
The diaspora, he claimed, "was the cancer connected to the main
tissue of the Jewish people". He was scathing about its failure to
act before the Holocaust.
He said the diaspora's religious and secular leadership had
ignored the warning signs in the 1920s, and had fiercely opposed
Zionism. Consequently, he considered the Holocaust, "the failure
of Judaism".
His talk, entitled "Diaspora: A Neurotic Solution", covered 5,000
years of Jewish history.
Mr. Yehoshua's other targets included Soviet Jews who were, he
said "not staying [in Israel], but running [away]", and all Jews
outside Israel "who were using other people's countries like
hotels".
The only conclusion he could draw was that the diaspora was
immoral, because it looked to Israel for its identity but lived
elsewhere.
Worse, it threatened Israel itself, creating a distraction for her
citizens, who were leaving by the thousands.
Mr. Yehoshua, who described himself as "a soldier for aliyah",
ended by calling for the creation of a new "total Jew", living in
Israel.
Earlier, speaking at a meeting of Jewish students on the
difficulties of forging a national identity in Israeli literature,
Mr. Yehoshua claimed that Israeli writers were paralyzed by the
country's political situation.
He said Israel's wars had once provided writers with a vital
source of inspiration. Today, Israeli writers avoided writing
directly about the Arab-Israeli conflict. No major work had been
produced about the intifada.
Instead, writers were tackling themes such as Jewish identity,
emigration from Israel and personal and family issues.
Mr. Yehoshua admitted he also felt unable to write about the
Israeli political situation. He could no longer step into an
Israeli Arab's shoes and portray him as a real "flesh and blood
character".
He claimed that after 40 years of statehood, the problem of
Israeli identity had not been solved. He said Jews remained too
pre-occupied with the borders of identity between Jew and non-Jew,
and were not concerned with the nature of that identity.
Jewish values in Israel embraced every aspect of daily life,
unlike in the diaspora, where Jews had no responsibility for the
country they lived in, he said.
He warned that modern Hebrew, a unifying force for the Jewish
people, would have to struggle for its future, especially in
literary circles. It faced fierce competition from the English
language.
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| 10,761 |
0 | From: [email protected] ("F.Baube[tm]")
Subject: Vandalizing the sky
X-Added: Forwarded by Space Digest
Organization: [via International Space University]
Original-Sender: [email protected]
Distribution: sci
Lines: 12
From: "Phil G. Fraering" <[email protected]>
>
> Finally: this isn't the Bronze Age, [..]
> please try to remember that there are more human activities than
> those practiced by the Warrior Caste, the Farming Caste, and the
> Priesthood.
Right, the Profiting Caste is blessed by God, and may
freely blare its presence in the evening twilight ..
--
* Fred Baube (tm)
| 10,762 |
0 | From: David Reeve Sward <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: AMD i486 clones: Now legal in US?!?!?!
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 15
NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cmu.edu
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware: 19-Apr-93 AMD i486
clones: Now legal .. by [email protected]
> A friend of mine called me on the phone and told me he was wathcing CNN
> and saw a report that the ruling prohibiting AMD from selling their i486
> clones has been thrown out, making it legal for AMD to ship in the US.
> Can anyone out there verify this?
It's true. I read about it from an article in ClariNet (can't send it
here though). U.S. District Court Judge William A. Ingram, of San
Francisco, threw out the jury verdict prohibiting AMD from using Intels'
microcode for the 486.
--
David Sward [email protected] Finger or email for PGP public key:
3D567F Fingerprint = E5 16 82 B0 3C 96 DB 6F B2 FB DC 8F 82 CB E9 45
Stop the Big Brother Chip - Just say NO to the Clipper "Wiretap" Chip!
| 10,763 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: Countersteering_FAQ please post
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Nntp-Posting-Host: florida.rchland.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Rochester
Lines: 18
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Andrew Infante) writes:
|> In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (C70A000) writes:
|> >In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (93CBR900RR) writes:
|> >>Would someone please post the countersteering FAQ...i am having this awful
|> >>time debating with someone on why i push the right handle of my motorcycle
|> >>foward when i am turning left...and i can't explain (well at least) why this
|> >>happens...please help...post the faq...i need to convert him.
|> >
|> > Ummm, if you push on the right handle of your bike while at speed and
|> >your bike turns left, methinks your bike has a problem. When I do it
|>
|> Pushing the right side of my handlebars _will_ send me left.
|>
|> I'm sure others will take up the slack...
oh yes, i'm quite sure they will :)
axel
| 10,764 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Serdar Argic)
Subject: Let the Turks speak for themselves.
Reply-To: [email protected] (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 95
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Angelos Karageorgiou) writes:
> If Turks in Greece were so badly mistreated how come they
>elected two,m not one but two, representatives in the Greek government?
Pardon me?
"Greece Government Rail-Roads Two Turkish Ethnic Deputies"
While World Human Rights Organizations Scream, Greeks
Persistently Work on Removing the Parliamentary Immunity
of Dr. Sadik Ahmet and Mr. Ahmet Faikoglu.
Dr. Sadik Ahmet, Turkish Ethnic Member of Greek Parliament, Visits US
Washington DC, July 7- Doctor Sadik Ahmet, one of the two ethnic
Turkish members of the Greek parliament visited US on june 24 through
July 5th and held meetings with human rights organizations and
high-level US officials in Washington DC and New York.
At his press conference at the National Press Club in Washington DC,
Sadik Ahmet explained the plight of ethnic Turks in Greece and stated
six demands from Greek government.
Ahmet said "our only hope in Greece is the pressure generated from
Western capitals for insisting that Greece respects the human rights.
What we are having done to ethnic Turks in Greece is exactly the same
as South African Apartheid." He added: "What we are facing is pure
Greek hatred and racial discrimination."
Spelling out the demands of the Turkish ethnic community in Greece
he said "We want the restoration of Greek citizenship of 544 ethnic
Turks. Their citizenship was revoked by using the excuse that this
people have stayed out of Greece for too long. They are Greek citizens
and are residing in Greece, even one of them is actively serving in
the Greek army. Besides, other non-Turkish citizens of Greece are
not subject to this kind of interpretation at an extent that many of
Greek-Americans have Greek citizenship and they permanently live in
the United States."
"We want guarantee for Turkish minority's equal rights. We want Greek
government to accept the Turkish minority and grant us our civil rights.
Our people are waiting since 25 years to get driving licenses. The Greek
government is not granting building permits to Turks for renovating
our buildings or building new ones. If your name is Turkish, you are
not hired to the government offices."
"Furthermore, we want Greek government to give us equal opportunity
in business. They do not grant licenses so we can participate in the
economic life of Greece. In my case, they denied me a medical license
necessary for practicing surgery in Greek hospitals despite the fact
that I have finished a Greek medical school and followed all the
necessary steps in my career."
"We want freedom of expression for ethnic Turks. We are not allowed
to call ourselves Turks. I myself have been subject of a number of
law suits and even have been imprisoned just because I called myself
a Turk."
"We also want Greek government to provide freedom of religion."
In separate interview with The Turkish Times, Dr. Sadik Ahmet stated
that the conditions of ethnic Turks are deplorable and in the eyes of
Greek laws, ethnic Greeks are more equal than ethnic Turks. As an example,
he said there are about 20,000 telephone subscribers in Selanik (Thessaloniki)
and only about 800 of them are Turks. That is not because Turks do not
want to have telephone services at their home and businesses. He said
that Greek government changed the election law just to keep him out
of the parliament as an independent representative and they stated
this fact openly to him. While there is no minimum qualification
requirement for parties in terms of receiving at least 3% of the votes,
they imposed this requirement for the independent parties, including
the Turkish candidates.
Ahmet was born in a small village at Gumulcine (Komotini), Greece 1947.
He earned his medical degree at University of Thessaloniki in 1974.
he served in the Greek military as an infantryman.
In 1985 he got involved with community affairs for the first time
by collecting 15,000 signatures to protest the unjust implementation
of laws against ethnic Turks. In 1986, he was arrested by the police
for collecting signatures.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 10,765 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Mark Rogowsky)
Subject: Re: IINTX Upgrade?
Organization: Stanford University
Lines: 27
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Douglas Barry Mcpherson) writes:
>Could someone please tell me what a
>
>LaserWriter IINTX upgrade kit is.
>
>Its a small box, which has a bag inn it , seemingly
>containing 6 chips (look like ROMS) and a IINTX manual.
>The installation instructions are most informative and say, in full,
>"This product must be installed by an Apple ........."
>
>SO what does this do ? At first I thought it might be a NT to NTX
>upgrade, but I thought that required an entirely new board.
>
>Any info appreciated.
>
>Doug.
The kit is for an already existing Laserwriter IINTX. It is a ROM
upgrade that replaces the font rasterizer code with the more
efficient, speedier code that first became available in Adobe Type
Manager 1.0.
That software came out after the original NTXes and the so-called
ATM rasterizer is now standard on Postscript printers.
Mark
| 10,766 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Lee Reynolds)
Subject: 16 bit MFM HD controller wanted.
Organization: Ludus Associates, Incorporated.
Lines: 8
Hi again!
Okay, am getting an old AT type together as well.
Anyone have a 16 bit MFM HDC they'd like to sell? WD is preferred, but
Adaptec and DTK are fine too......for that matter, almost anything
so long as it works!
Lee ([email protected])
| 10,767 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Keith M. Ryan)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
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NNTP-Posting-Host: b64635.student.cwru.edu
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Seth J. Bradley) writes:
>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mike Cobb) writes:
>>Why isn't this falsifiable? I.E. There is no God, the world has existed forever
>>and had no starting point. ?
>
>How does one falsify God's existance? This, again, is a belief, not a scien-
>tific premise. The original thread referred specifically to "scientific
>creationism". This means whatever theory or theories you propose must be
>able to be judged by the scientific method. This is in contrast to
>purely philosophical arguments.
If given a definite definition of "God", it is sometimes possible to
falsify the existance of that God.
But, when one refuses to give an immutable definition, one can not.
---
" Whatever promises that have been made can than be broken. "
John Laws, a man without the honor to keep his given word.
| 10,768 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Bill Vance)
Subject: Re: help - how to construct home-built battery for 3rd grade sci report
Distribution: usa
Organization: (N.) To be organized. But that's not important right now.....
Lines: 32
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Dean Anneser ([email protected]) wrote:
: My 9 yr old son has signed up to do a science report on batteries. I was
: wondering if anyone could provide me with some information as to how to
: construct a home-built battery. In my grade school days, I remember seeing
: the 'ice cube tray' version, but I don't remember what to use as a good
: electrolyte or what the easily obtainable metals were.
: Thank you in advance.
: Dean W. Anneser Pratt & Whitney Aircraft
: Computer System Specialist m.s. 161-05 \__ -\
: (203)565-9372 (desk) 5016 (fax) 400 Main St. Ooo.. (_)-V/( )
: Uucp: uunet!pwa-b!anneser East Hartford, CT 06108 Live to Ride
: Internet: [email protected]
: "One test result is worth one thousand expert opinions" -- Wernher Von Braun
: --
: Dean W. Anneser Pratt & Whitney Aircraft
: Computer System Specialist m.s. 161-05 \__ -\
: (203)565-9372 (desk) 5016 (fax) 400 Main St. Ooo.. (_)-V/( )
: Uucp: uunet!pwa-b!anneser East Hartford, CT 06108 Live to Ride
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The simplest one is easy. Take a lemon or other citrus type fruit, and
stick a pair of metal strips into it for the contacts. The two strips must
be of disimelar metals like copper and zinc. Then connect a voltmeter to
the contacts and read the voltage.
[email protected] (Bill Vance), Bothell, WA
rwing!xpresso!bill
You listen when I xpresso, I listen When uuxpresso.......:-)
| 10,769 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Tall Cool One )
Subject: PADS Question - How do I go from a schematic -> PCB?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 17
After I have produced a schematic with PADS-LOGIC, how do I import it into
PADS-PCB to create a PCB pattern? The only way I've gotten it to work is
to output a FutureNet netlist, and then import this into PADS-PCB. Is there
another way of doing this? I didn't see any information in the instructions
provided, but I might have missed something. Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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| | Raymond Yeung Internet: [email protected] | |
| | [email protected] | |
| | EE student at the | |
| | University of Illinois CompuServe: 70700,1011 | |
| | at Urbana-Champaign | |
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| 10,770 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Christopher Douglas Saady)
Subject: Re: Looking for MOVIES w/ BIKES
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 4
There's also Billy Jack, The Wild One, Smokey and the Bandit
(Where Jerry Reed runs his truck over Motorcycle Gangs Bikes),
and a video tape documentary on the Hell's Angels I
found in a rental store once
| 10,771 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Eugene Y. Kuo)
Subject: Any updated Canon BJ-200 driver
Organization: dis
Lines: 7
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.ai.mit.edu
Hi ... can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of updated Canon BJ-200
printer driver for Windows 3.1, if any ? I have ver 1.0 which comes with
my BJ-200 printer, I just wonder if there is any newer version.
Thanks very much, please email.
| 10,772 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Paul Hovnanian)
Subject: Re: Re: Toyota Land Cruiser worth it?
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group
Lines: 30
>: In response to a post about SUV's, I got several unsolicited recommendations to
>: check out the Land Cruiser, despite its astronomical price.
>: The Toyota dealer told me it's a "cult car".
>: If a car is good enough to create a passionate and loyal following, there
>: must be something really extraordinary about it.
>: So, all you Land Crusher Cultists - here is your chance to convert me.
>:
>: --
>: Jonathan Edwards [email protected]
>: IntraNet, Inc 617-527-7020
Based on my experience with a '79 FJ40 ( the hard-top jeep-style model ) I
would definitely give a new model consideration if I were in the market. The
older models are VERY well built. Unless Toyota lost its mind, I would
assume, until proven otherwise, that the newer models have inherited some
if not all of the qualities of their ancestors.
Two major differences in the running gear (that I'm aware of) need study.
My '79 has a solid front axle housing whereas the newer models have
independant front suspension. The solid axle is theoretically stronger and
more reliable than the newer model, but only experience will tell. The
independant front suspension is, no doubt, a compromise made to satisfy
the typical user, who will never need a real utility vehicle. The second
difference is the type of transfer case used on the newer models. I'm
not sure, but I think Tioyota went to a full-time 4WD or all-wheel drive
system. The older Landcruisers have a "lock-up" type. Both have their
advantages and disadvantages.
Paul Hovnanian [email protected]
[Std disclaimers apply]
| 10,773 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Kirk Membry)
Subject: moving icons
Reply-To: rutgers!viamar!kmembry
Organization: Private System
Lines: 9
I remember reading about a program that made windows icons run away
from the mouse as it moved near them. Does anyone know the name
of this program and the ftp location (probably at cica)
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| 10,774 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Jon Noring)
Subject: Re: Christians that are not church members
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Lines: 69
In article [email protected] writes:
>Over the years, I have met Christians who are not associated with
>any local church and are not members of any local church. This is
>an issue that may be very personal, but is important. What does
>the Bible say about this and how can we encourage our friends with
>regard to this issue?
This brings up an interesting subject that has not been discussed much,
and probably has not been studied much.
As some of you may be aware, I've posted a lot of articles lately on
personality typing (of which the MBTI is a test vehicle). To come up
to speed, just read 'alt.psychology.personality' and/or ask for by
personality type summary file.
One observation is that people have significantly different personalities
(no question on this) which seem to be essentially in-born. With respect
to church attendance and participation, some people thrive on this, while
other people have real difficulty with this because they prefer a more
solitary and contemplative lifestyle - that is, they are de-energized if
confronted with excessive closeness to outside activities and lots of
people. Of course this is measured by extroversion/introversion.
My impression is that many churches are totally blind to this fact, and
create environments that 'scare away' many who are naturally introverted
(there are many introverted characters in the Bible, btw). I know, I am
quite introverted in preference, and find the 'pressure' by many churches
to participate, to meet together in large groups, etc., to be very
uncomfortable. Knowing what I know now, these churches have been overly
influenced by highly extroverted people who thrive on this sort of thing.
(BTW, there's nothing wrong with either extroversion or introversion, both
preferences have their place in the Body).
Maybe I should define extrovert/introvert more carefully since these words
are usually not used correctly in our culture. The extrovert/introvert
scale is a measure of how a person is energized. The following is
excerpted from my summary:
1. Energizing - How a person is energized:
Extroversion (E)- Preference for drawing energy from the outside
world of people, activities or things.
Introversion (I)- Preference for drawing energy from one's internal
world of ideas, emotions, or impressions.
Hopefully this will elicit further discussion as to how churches can
structure themselves to meet the real needs of the people who comprise
the Body of Christ, instead of trying to change people's personalities
to fit them into a particular framework. I'm sure there are other aspects
of how churches have not properly understood personality variances among
their members to the detriment of all.
Jon Noring
--
Charter Member --->>> INFJ Club.
If you're dying to know what INFJ means, be brave, e-mail me, I'll send info.
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| 10,775 |
0 | Organization: Penn State University
From: <[email protected]>
Subject: Fall Comdex '93
Lines: 8
Does anyone out there have any info on the up and coming fall comdex '93? I was
asked by one of my peers to get any info that might be available. Or, could
anyone point me in the right direction? Any help would be appreciated.
Dave Stevens [email protected]
Training and Multimedia Services dls128@psuvm
Penn State University
| 10,776 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Yarabayeva Albina Nikolayevna)
Subject: FOR SALE:high-guality conifer oil from Russia,$450/ton,400 ton
Reply-To: [email protected]
Distribution: eunet
Organization: Firm ERIDAN
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Inguiry by address:[email protected]
| 10,777 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Vesselin Bontchev)
Subject: Re: How large are commercial keys?
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
Lines: 15
[email protected] (Dane C. Butzer) writes:
> Finally, can anyone even concieve of a time/place where 128 bit keys aren't
> sufficient?
It depends on the algorithm used. 128-bit secret keys for RSA are
definitively not secure enough.
Regards,
Vesselin
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Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
< PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C
e-mail: [email protected] D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
| 10,778 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: >>>>>>Pompous ass
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 226
NNTP-Posting-Host: lloyd.caltech.edu
<[email protected]> writes:
>>Many people would probably think (especially if the fanatics propogandized
>>this) that this was a conflict between the atheists and the religious.
>>Many would get the impression that we were trying to outlaw religion, if
>>we contintue to try to remove all things with a religious reference.
>That's not what the people I've asked think. Perhaps you would be right
>if you said the fundamentalists would think this way; after all, they think
>they are being oppressed when they are not allowed to oppress. However,
>you have not shown where you get this idea that 'many' people would
>'probably' think it's atheism vs. religion, winner take all. As far as I can
>tell, it is your groundless prediction that this will happen.
But you haven't taken into the account of propoganda. Remember, if you
asked Germans before WWII if the Jews shoudl be slaughtered, they would
probably answer no, but, after the propoganda machine rolled through, at
least some were able to tolerate it.
You see, it only takes a small group of fanatics to whip up a general
frenzy.
>>THe propoganda machines have been in gear over a number of issues, including
>>abortion and gays... look at some of the things that have happened.
>Well, so far they have passed one amendment, which is currently under
>intense scrutiny, and they have failed to outlaw abortion, which is their
>prime goal on that issue. Yep, they seem sooo effective. Sure.
Well, they haven't managed to outlaw abortion due to the possible objectivity
of the courts. But, they have managed to create quite a few problems for
people that wanted to have an abortion. They could create similar problems
for us. And, it could be worse. They can try to stop abortions by blocking
clinics, etc., but imagine what they'd have to do to stop atheism.
>>>>Besides, the margin of error is very large when you only talk to two people.
>>>Better than your one, that is, your opinion. Also, I have branched
>>>out and the informal survey is up over half a dozen now.
>>And, what have they said? Were you questions unbiased?
>Keith, you would claim that my questions are biased the minute I posted
>them, because the answers agreed with me. Everyone I have asked about
>the possible removal of the motto (the christian portion) has expressed
>regret about its loss, because they like it. However, when it is pointed
>out to them that a new motto will not be in the works, none have expressed
>the desire to rape, murder, pillage, etc., which you have basically claimed.
So, you are able to convince them individually, but could you convince a
whole room of them? A whole nation?
>As for the atheist portion (I know some around here), they have all
>expressed disgust with the motto. Some noted being harassed by christians
>who used the motto to try to seem justified. And all would see it gone.
Yes, I'd be glad if it were gone to. I've never supported it. However,
I think that it is a minor problem that can be easily ignored, contrasted
with what *could* happen (an what may be likely).
>>Which Christians designed the motto? Does the motto say anything about
>>Jesus? Why do you think that it refers *only* to Christians?
>Christians wrote it; christians think that their religion is right, and
>all others are wrong; therefore, why would they 'include' other religions
>in the realm of being correct? I doubt that any other religions were meant
>to be included.
Well, I am not clear on the religious convictions of Francis Scott Key (the
motto can be attributed to him), but it is at least clear that he believed
in a god. And, surely there are a few Christians that think as you say,
but I don't think that most do. Do you think that all Christians actively
despise other religions? Most that I have met haven't and don't do so.
>>>No christian
>>>that I have queried thinks it means anything but them, and only them.
>>Why not ask some people of other faiths?
>Sorry, I would, but christianity is just so awfully popular around here.
>Suppose you could ask a few people?
Well, I have asked a Hindu, Moselem, and a few Jews, and all of them think
that it is applicable to them. Of course, I can't say that these people
(just some that I know pretty well) are accurate representations of their
faiths.
>>It is always a good idea to assume that there were dissenting views on any
>>given issue. You are assuming that all the views were the same, and nothing
>>leads to this conclusion.
>Without evidence to the contrary, I doubt that there were dissenting
>opinions. You claim there were. Provide some evidence for your assertion.
Well, I'd really like to, and I've tried, but I really don't know where to
get access to _Congressional Records_ from the 1950's. Can anyone help
out here?
>Comparing christians to Nazis? Interesting.
Only in the sense that neither can probably convinced to change their beliefs.
>>>>No, again, the motto on the money doesn't cost you anything extra. However,
>>>>if you abolished the motto, we'd all have to pay to have all the dies and
>>>>plates redone.
>>>Like people paid before to get them changed to have the motto on them.
>>You now need to show that there is a good reason to change everything again.
>... Also, I doubt that they use th3
>same plates for more than a year's printing; this would make it easy
>to remove the motto (simply make next year's plates without it). Your
>claim, evidently, is that they will have to pay extra somewhere.
>Provide some evidence for this assertion.
So, are you saying that they redesign the plates each year?
Anyway, your whole argument (conveniently deleted I see) was that the motto
somehow costs us all a lot of money. This is just not correct.
>>The ones I read didn't mention anything about Jesus. I think the issue was
>>concerning the distinction between religion and not.
>How could it be between religious and not religious? The motto
>refers to god; it is a religious motto. The question is whether or
>not it is only christian. You say it is more. I doubt this. Provide
>some evidence for this assertion.
That is to say, the religion of this country, and the non-religion of
the USSR. That was what most of those quotes were about, and some included
all atheists, in general, as well. I don't think that any of the quotes
(although I seem to have lost them) mentioned anything at all about Jesus.
They advocated religion over non-religion. A specific religion was not
mentioned.
>>You have missed this point. I said that the motto didn't say anything
>>about anyone in particular. That is, the motto doesn't imply anything
>>about *your* particular beliefs. It doesn't say that everyone trusts
>>in some form of god, only that the nation on the whole does.
>We have been through this before. It's obvious it does not include me;
>this much is beyond doubt. Your claim, again, is that the motto refers
>to more than christians. Based on the facts that christianity says all
>other religions are wrong, and because it seems that the motto was
>written by christians, I doubt your claim.
So, you are saying that all Christians must believe that all other religions
should be outlawed, just because they think they are wrong? That's silly.
I think the Flat-Earthers are wrong, but I don't advocate their banishment.
>[...] Based on this idea I doubt that any additional expense would
>even be incurred by removing the motto. Provide some evidence for your
>claim that it would.
I think that any such cost would be insignificant. I mentioned the slight
cost because you said that the motto was costing us a lot of money by
being on our currency.
>Disregarding the digression of the other motto...If it is used for
>harassment, and no other purpose has been found for it, why should
>it not be removed?
Well, mottos in general don't really have purposes... I don't think it
should be removed because I think the benefit would be outweighed by the
consequences.
>>And do you know what the vote was? Were there other opinions? Do you
>>think that the main reason the motto was required by law was to bother
>>atheists? Do you think that this is what the majority of congress at
>>the time had in mind? If you do, then show why.
>Again, it is the opinion of the people who put it there that I am
>concerned with.
Then you should be concerned with the opinion of the entire congress.
>Again, it is not necessary that the complete majority
>shared the purpose of confronting 'godless Communism' with this motto.
Why not? It is the majority that put it there.
>>The general public probably does not know about the anti-atheist intent
>>of a few people in the 50's either.
>I daresay more people remember the 50's than the time when Key wrote
>the anthem.
But do they remember the debate surrounding the motto? Do they remember
that some people intended it to be a message against atheists? Why don't
you include this in your little survey that you were conducting?
[...]
>You claim here that scientists would believe someone's claims. I doubt
>this. Provide evidence for your assertion.
What? Should I ask some scientists the probability that something Einstein
said about relativity is worthy? I mean, if Einstein said it, there's a
good chance that it was right (at least at the time).
>As for the courts, the
>method scientists use can be applied. I need not agree with the court
>by default because of a 'good record.'
You need not agree with them all of the time, but you would certainly think
that their decisions would be good evidence in favor of some point.
>>What? But you said you didn't agree with the court because they "allowed
>>Congress to attempt to make an amendment prohibiting flag burning." If
>>you don't realize that something like this is external to the realm of
>>the court's power, then how can I be confident that you know *anything*
>>about the court's powers? I mean, if you don't know how the court works,
>>how can you participate in a discussion of the court?
>A judge can go to speak before Congress. And still you ignore the
>abortion gag rule, as you make your claims on abortion.
No, I think that it would be clearly inappropriate for a Supreme Court
Justice to testify before Congress during the consideration of a
Constitutional Amendment.
And, in order for the Court to rule on something, a case usually must be
presented.
>>Mushrooms, flowers, trees, buildings, signs, whatever... the analogy is
>>the same. Just because something that I might find offensive is present
>>doesn't mean that my rights are being violated.
>We are talking about something put there by people, Keith...not
>a mushroom. No one caused that mushroom to exist, unless you're
>finding things offensive in a mushroom farm.
Yes, some mushrooms can be planted. And, I don't appreciate mushrooms on
my pizza, either.
>This is not the case
>with the motto. And you're ignoring the harassment which is the
>only known result of the motto, and you're ignoring that somewhere
>along the line people were forced to put the motto there.
Who was forced to put the motto there? What do you mean?
keith
| 10,779 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Scott W Roby)
Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19
Nntp-Posting-Host: chopin.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Lines: 32
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Scott W Roby) writes:
>>
>>Well they had over 40 days to come out with their hands up on national tv
>>to get the trial they deserved. Instead they chose to set fire to their
>>compund hours after the tanks dropped off the tear gas.
>
>This is about the third person who's parroted the FBI's line about the
>fires being set "six hours after the tear gas was injected." Suppose you
>want to explain to us the videotape footage shown on national TV last night
>in which a tank with the gas-injecting tubes is pulling its injection tubes
>out of the second story of a building as the building begins to belch smoke
>and then fire?
I've already corrected my mistake earlier in this thread. I saw a brief
news report which led to the above inaccuracy. I have since seen detailed
summaries that show the tanks returned in the late morning.
So, why didn't the BD's leave when the gas was first introduced much
earlier in the morning? Didn't they care about the children?
Why didn't they release the children weeks ago?
>
>Do tell.
>
> -joe
--
| 10,780 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Douglas B. Dodson)
Subject: Windows 3.1 or DOS 5.0 or SMARTDRV or ???
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.
Lines: 59
Hello,
I thought this problem might have something to do with Windows 3.1 SMARTDRV and
a VESA video card...any ideas???
I recently purchased a 486DX-33 machine and am having problems where the
machine will suddenly freeze or reboot. This may happen in Windows 3.1 or DOS
5.0. Sometimes it is after printing a document, sometimes after using the
mouse, and sometimes just when I am sitting there. Twice when it happened, the
machine rebooted and sounded seven beeps. I looked in the documentation and
the seven beep code meant a problem with interrupts. The machine has the
following configuration and files:
486DX-33
AMI BIOS
5.25 and 3.5 floppies
170 Meg IDE hard drive
256k cache
Microsoft compatible mouse on com1
Citizen GSX-145 on lpt1
NI SuperVGA Monitor with VESA Windows Accelerator Card w/ 1Meg
Two VESA slots
Windows 3.1
DOS 5.0
CONFIG.SYS
==========
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
FILES=20
BUFFERS=20
STACKS=9,128
AUTOEXEC.BAT
============
@ECHO OFF
LH C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE 1024
PROMPT $p$g
PATH C:\DOS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\MOUSE
LH C:\MOUSE\MOUSE
SET TEMP=C:\DOS
LH C:\DOS\DOSKEY
When the machine freezes, I can't use the mouse or keyboard or use Ctrl-Alt-Del
to reboot. If any one can give me any help, I would greatly appreciate it. If
anyone can help configure this machine for the best efficiency (memory wise) I
would appreciate that also.
--
Douglas B. Dodson Internet: [email protected]
HRB Systems, Inc.
State College, PA USA
16804
Disclaimer!
===========
Any ideas or opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect the ideas or
opinions of HRB.
| 10,781 |
0 | From: [email protected]
Subject: Custom Keys
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Lines: 8
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.rose-hulman.edu
I am looking for a company that can make custom keys. For instance we need
a key that says HELP, MAIN MENU, etc which we are going to use instead of
F1,F2, F3 etc... Can anyone point me to a company that does this. Also
do you have to have a special keyboard, or can I just pop off the old keys
and pop in the new ones...
Thanks for the help
Jeff Swartz
| 10,782 |
0 | From: [email protected] ("F.Baube[tm]")
Subject: The Area Rule
X-Added: Forwarded by Space Digest
Organization: [via International Space University]
Original-Sender: [email protected]
Distribution: sci
Lines: 12
I read it refered to as the "parabolic cross-section" rule;
the idea was that if you plot the area of the fuselage cross-
section as a function of the point fore-and-aft along the
fuselage, a plot that is a **paraboloid** minimizes somethin'
or 'nother (to be technical about it).
--
* Fred Baube (tm) * In times of intellectual ferment,
* [email protected] * advantage to him with the intellect
* #include <disclaimer.h> * most fermented
* May '68, Paris: It's Retrospective Time !!
| 10,783 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Dave Medin)
Subject: Re: HV diodes
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville AL
Lines: 36
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Bob Myers) writes:
|> > Nope. The dag is on the outside of the tube, and is grounded. The inside
|> > aluminization *is* the second anode, and is connected to the 'anode'
|> > suction cup. This (with the glass of the tube in between) is a capacitor,
|> > and is used as the power supply bypass/filter for the HV supply. Some
|> > smaller scope tubes don't have an aquadag coating on the outside. If they
|> > are in mu-metal shields, you still have a capacitor.
|>
|> Actually (and I think I said this in the original, but perhaps wasn't clear
|> enough) there is usually both an internal AND an external dag. Of the two,
|> the internal dag is the more important; the aluminization of the back of the
|> phosphor is in most cases not adequate to guarantee connection to the anode
|> "button" (and in the case where the gun assembly includes an accelerating
|> electrode at anode potential, most definitely does not provide THAT
|> connection).
Bob is indeed correct here in more than one way. A look in the old
RCA picture tube manual backs this up, as does SAMS Reference Data
handbook. The internal coating around the perimeter of the CRT
(not the aluminum or tin CRT face coating) is referred to as a
"dag" as well as the outer coating.
Thankfully, I didn't need to go to a f****** library to find it, either.
One sparkling water for Mr. Vanderbyl (no caffeine in that, is there).
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Intergraph Corp.
M/S GD3004 Internet: [email protected]
Huntsville, AL 35894 UUCP: ...uunet!ingr!b30!catbyte!dtmedin
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* The opinions expressed here are mine (or those of my machine)
| 10,784 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Brad Templeton)
Subject: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Distribution: na
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Lines: 22
It occurs to me that if they get a wiretap order on you, and the escrow
houses release your code to the cops, your code is now no longer secure.
It's in the hands of cops, and while I am sure most of the time they are
good, their security will not be as good as the escrow houses.
What this effectively means is that if they perform a wiretap on you,
at the end of the wiretap, they should be obligated to inform you that
a tap was performed, and replace (for free) the clipper chip in your
cellular phone so that it is once again a code known only to the
escrow houses.
Do the police normally reveal every tap they do even if no charges are
laid? In many ways, it would be a positive step if they had to.
Judges set time limits on warrants, I assume. At the end of the time
limit they should have to renew or replace your chip.
That's if we go with this scheme, which I am not sure I agree with.
--
Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
| 10,785 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Rick Bressler)
Subject: Re: Gun Lovers (was Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card)
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group
Lines: 35
>Hell, a Glock is the last thing that should be switched to. The only thing
>that I know about a Glock is the lack of a real safety on it. Sure there is
>that little thing in the trigger but that isn't too great of a safety.
You're getting warmer. The 'little thing in the trigger' has to be
depressed before the trigger can move. What this means is the damned
thing won't go off until the trigger is pulled. This makes it just
about (there HAVE been some problems, but we're assuming the gun is
functioning correctly..) as safe as a revolver. The gun when working
correctly is totally drop safe.
Now, in police work this is a consideration. There is not a single
documented case I'm aware of where a police officer was killed because
he failed to operate the safety on his firearm. There are quite a few
documented cases where criminals got hold of the cops gun and couldn't
figure out how to get the safety off in time to use the gun, thus the
proprietary nature of the safety (to the criminal at least) very likely
prevented the office from getting shot.
The purpose of a safety is to make the gun safe from unintentional fire.
This does not mean it should be so complicated as to slow down
intentional use! Thus the Glock safety is perfectly adequate from a
'safety' standpoint, but not necessarily the most desirable from the
standpoint of open carry where it is easily grabbed by somebody else.
By this criteria it DOES make a lot of sense as a concealed carry piece.
From the standpoint of police use, it is no better (or worse) than a
revolver as far as being 'proprietary' to the officer in the method of
firing it.
The ideal solution may someday be biometric sensing of the user so that
the firearm can't be used by anybody but it's owner, but for now the
wide variety of safety systems helps, unless the criminal happens to be
familiar with that particular type of firearm.
Rick.
| 10,786 |
0 | From: [email protected] (John R. Levine)
Subject: Why the clipper algorithm is secret
Organization: I.E.C.C.
Lines: 21
>The cryptographic protocol, though, is another matter. I see no valid
>reasons for keeping it secret, and -- as I hope I've shown above -- there
>are a lot of ways to do things that aren't (quite) as bad.
It just occurred to me why the algorithm is secret. If it were
published, one could then build physically identical clone versions
of the chip that would interoperate with official Clipper chips. But
the cloner wouldn't provide the keys to the escrow houses. Hmmn.
Or is there a technical hack that I've missed? E.g. how about if the
chips were made unprogrammed but serialized, and then shipped to the
two escrow houses who programmed in their halves of the keys, but
in a way that requires that secret keys known only to the escrow houses
be installed as well, without which clone versions wouldn't
interoperate? This is getting awfully complicated, but that's
crypto for you.
--
John R. Levine, IECC, POB 349, Cambridge MA 02238, +1 617 492 3869
[email protected], {ima|spdcc|world}!iecc!johnl
"Time is Money! Steal some today!"
| 10,787 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Patrick Bridges)
Subject: Re: Diamond Stelth 24- any good?
In-Reply-To: [email protected]'s message of 23 Apr 1993 07:24:32 -0600
Nntp-Posting-Host: andy.erc.msstate.edu
Organization: /merlin-home2/patrick/.organization
Lines: 7
The real problem w/ the Stealth from what I've heard is that Diamond won't
tell anyone how to program their proprietary clock stuff, so X under Linux
and 386BSD won't run....
Patrick Bridges
[email protected]
| 10,788 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Jef Poskanzer)
Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow]
X-Face: uPIE),q]+zmF49L%(pdE;nX/8$/J22&&&C@_)8BouYx42Y--?*,\]*MIeTY#mCM(x>FyD@+0D-Jm]S_8lxop(Q-$L#~b8!ha;eF[b+GOLyu<]4$">NeVymJ@F#M?1O`ue4,h4`2S^KGjmP%no(d,:<Ur:+f6W8$J:'t9BxH
Reply-To: Jef Poskanzer <[email protected]>
Organization: Paratheo-Anametamystikhood Of Eris Esoteric
Lines: 22
[email protected] (Brad Templeton):
}And yes, this has to be a public key system or it would be almost
}impossible to handle. It might not be RSA, but that does not mean
}that PKP doesn't get paid. Until 1997, PKP has the patent on the
}general concept of public key encryption, as well as the particular
}implementation known as RSA.
Hmm, my first thought was that they're using Diffie-Hellman exponential
session key exchange, or an equivalent. However, the Diffie-Hellman
patent, like the Hellman-Merkle one on public key systems, claims
all equivalents, so the basic point stands.
Interestingly, a quote from Jim Bidzos showed up in the media real
soon after the announcement, and he sounded very pissed. Maybe he hadn't
yet realized that PKP might have just struck gold? All they have to
do is get someone to admit the general scheme that the Clipper uses.
---
Jef
Jef Poskanzer [email protected] [email protected]
"An object never serves the same function as its image - or its name."
-- Rene Magritte
| 10,789 |
1 | From: [email protected] (David Rind)
Subject: Re: Arrhythmia
Organization: Beth Israel Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston Mass., USA
Lines: 26
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterprise.bih.harvard.edu
In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Alexis Perry) writes:
>In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] writes:
>>doctors said that he could die from it, and the medication caused
> Is it that serious? My EKG often comes back with a few irregular
>beats. Another question: Is a low blood potassium level very bad? My
>doctor seems concerned, but she tends to worry too much in general.
The term arrhythmia is usually used to encompass a wide range of abnormal
heart rhythms (cardiac dysrhythmias). Some of them are very serious
while others are completely benign. Having "a few irregular beats"
on an EKG could be serious depending on what those beats were and
when they occurred, or could be of no significance.
Low blood potassium levels probably predispose people with underlying
heart disease to develop arrhythmias. Very low potassium levels are
clearly dangerous, but it is not clear how much of a problem
low-end-of-normal levels are: a lot of cardiologists seem to treat
anyone with even a mildly low-normal potassium level.
--
David Rind
[email protected]
| 10,790 |
1 | From: [email protected] (Robert "Texx" Woodworth)
Subject: Re: Can men get yeast infections?
Organization: Open Systems Solutions Inc.
Lines: 16
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: nym.ossi.com
[email protected] (Jon Noring) writes:
>In article [email protected] (Tammy Vandenboom) writes:
>>Here's a potentially stupid question to possibly the wrong news group, but. .
>>
>>Can men get yeast infections? Spread them? What kind of symptoms?
>>Similar as women's? I have a yeast infection and my husband (who is a
>>natural paranoid on a good day) is sure he's gonna catch it and keeps
>>asking me what it's like. I'm not sure what his symptoms would be. .
>The answer is yes and no. I'm sure others on sci.med can expand on this.
Recently someone posted an account of this.
Unfortunately it was posted to alt.tasteless so the gross details were emphasized
instead of th e actual scientific facts.
| 10,791 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Doug Bank)
Subject: Re: Info needed for Cleveland tickets
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Distribution: usa
Nntp-Posting-Host: 145.1.146.35
Lines: 17
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (matthew bohnert) writes:
|> I'm going to be in Cleveland Thursday, April 15 to Sunday, April 18.
|> Does anybody know if the Tribe will be in town on those dates, and
|> if so, who're they playing and if tickets are available?
The tribe will be in town from April 16 to the 19th.
There are ALWAYS tickets available! (Though they are playing Toronto,
and many Toronto fans make the trip to Cleveland as it is easier to
get tickets in Cleveland than in Toronto. Either way, I seriously
doubt they will sell out until the end of the season.)
--
Doug Bank Private Systems Division
[email protected] Motorola Communications Sector
[email protected] Schaumburg, Illinois
[email protected] 708-576-8207
| 10,792 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: quick way to tell if your local beat writer is dumb.
Nntp-Posting-Host: myria.cs.umn.edu
Organization: The Little Projective Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Lines: 28
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite) writes:
>
>jayson stark (i think that's him) fits perfectly in this category.
Could be. There is a Jayson Stark that writes weekly for some press syndicate
and also for Baseball America.
>anyone who writes "dean palmer has 2 homers - at this pace, he'll
> have 324 home runs!" should be shot.
>
>if, at the end of april, he has 11, and anyone writes "at this
> pace, he'll have 100+ homers!" they shouldbe shot too.
Stark has done this sort of thing, but he has never been serious about it.
He usually states that this sort of projection is useless at the top of
such columns. I think he did it one season and some manager was "projected"
to be thrown out of 60 games and some hitter could expect to be plunked
150 times.
Stark does some really funny stuff. His weekly baseball reviews are good
collections of strange things that happened during the previous week. He
also regularly prints Kinerisms.
=============================
Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith | "Moments after being named manager for the
([email protected]) | Oakland A's, Mr Peanut was crushed by a
Special Limited Edition | red headed loner wielding an aluminum bat."
r.s.bb .signature | _Murder at the Mausoleum_
| 10,793 |
1 | From: [email protected] (Russell Turpin)
Subject: Re: H E L P M E ---> desperate with some VD
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Lines: 17
NNTP-Posting-Host: saltillo.cs.utexas.edu
Summary: Here's help.
-*----
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ming-zhou Liu) writes:
> I have bad luck and got a VD called <Granuloma ingunale>, which involves
> the growth of granules in the groin. I found out about it by checking
> medicine books and I found the prescriptions. ...
Ming-zhou Liu's main problem is that he has an incompetent
physician -- himself. This physician has diagnosed a problem,
even though he probably has never seen the diagnosed disease
before and has no idea of what kinds of problems can present
similar symptoms. This physician now wants to treat his first
case of this disease without any help from the medical community.
The best thing Ming-zhou Liu could do is fire his current
physician and seek out a better one.
Russell
| 10,794 |
0 | From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Gun Control: proud to be a Canuck
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb
Lines: 28
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Dave Duff) writes:
>Does anyone really believe the Swiss have had no war within their borders
>because every adult male owns a rifle? I'm a great admirer of the Swiss, but
>500 years of peace on their turf has zilch to do with gun ownership. Can you
>picture Hitler, with Panzers and Focke-Wulfs poised on the border, losing
>sleep over a few thousand expert rifleman?
Not just because of the riflemen. They also have many hard bunkers in
the mountains that would be nearly impossible to penetrate. As for
tanks, they would be rather useless in such mountainous terrain.
>Hitler stayed out of Switzerland because the Swiss run the money in this
>world.
Gee, that's a new one. He thought it was a different ethnic group.
Since Hitler was determined to control, at the least, all of Europe,
do you think he gave a damn about international monetary concerns?
Also, there's a LOT of gold in Swiss vaults. Don't you think he new
that? If he could have, he would have taken Switzerland. However,
crazy as he was, he wasn't totally stupid. It would have cost him a
hell of a lot to take Switzerland, with no guarantee that an invasion
would be successful. He probably figured (or his generals did, when
he was listening to them) that it wasn't worth the cost.
Al
[standard disclaimer]
| 10,795 |
0 | From: [email protected] (MICHAEL BITZ)
Subject: Re: Where to buy Pentium motherboard?
Lines: 13
Organization: Dakota State University
Lines: 13
>Has anybody bought a Pentium motherboard? If so or you where I can
>buy it, please send me a E-mail. Thank you in advance.
Pentium processors / motherboards are not available to the general public as
of yet. Intel has released them to companies such as Gateway and Dell
to do testing, etc. It'll be a while...
------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Bitz Internet: [email protected]
Research and Development [email protected]
Dakota State University Bitnet: [email protected]
| 10,796 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Douglas Fowler)
Subject: Re: Jack Morris
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Lines: 60
Reply-To: [email protected] (Douglas Fowler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu
In a previous article, [email protected] (Edward [Ted] Fischer) says:
>In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Phill St. Louis) writes:
>>Jack Morris' starts have been like his playoff starts. He has an ERA of
>>17.18 in his 3 starts.
>>
>>What does luck have to do with a 17.18 ERA? He was lucky to get 21 wins
>>last year, but he had an ERA of 4.04 with a team that scored a lot of
>>runs. I would be happy if he could still pitch with an ERA of 4.04, but
>>he seems to be suffering from a total callapse.
>
>Bad pitchers are more prone to this total collapse than good pitchers.
>They are closer to the chasm of mediocrity. The smallest push and
>they completely lose their grip.
>
But good ones can collapse somewhat, then come back the next year.
Burleigh Grimes went from 20+ wins and an ERA of 3 or so in '24 to 13-19 and
an ERA around 4 in '25. He pitched well for several more years. Carlton
won 13 and lost 20 the year after his 27-10 record. (Source: Bill James
Historical Baseball Abstract.)
And let's not forget John Tudor, who started 1-5 and finished 21-6 in
1985. He had a pretty bad ERA when you take Busch Stadium into account at
the start of the season.
>>He gave up early runs
>>in his '92 games and would get stronger as the game went on, thus giving
>>up few runs in the last going. He stays in the game and gets the win.
>>How else would he have pitched so many innings?
>
>Yup. He used to dig himself a hole, then get it together and stick in
>until the run support eventually came through. This year he just
>hasn't gotten it together.
If I recall, he had a 4.50 ERA in the 1st half and a 3.50 ERA in the
2nd half of last year.
Hmmm, 21 runs in 11 innings. Suppose he starts 30 more games, and winds
up w/200 innings pitched. If he allows 4 runs a game in the next 189
innings, he'll have a 4.75 ERA or so at the end of the year. (I think I have
his totals right.) This is going to be hard to come back from.
>>Jack may be finished. It is time to retire or be released, if he does
>>not return to his form from last year.
>
>His $5 million contract is an awful lot to eat!
My 1st hunch is that Morris is very gutsy, and that he may be pitching
through an injury and not telling anyone. My 2nd guess is that he will be
banished to the bullpen the remainder of the season after a few more starts.
(Perhaps when Stewart comes off the DL? Or will Danny Cox, who went 3 or 4
scoreless innings against the Tribe today, start for Morris? He looks like
a really good one. Gaston is scrambling to find starters, I'd imagine.
Luckily, the Jays have a very good offense.)
I don't think they would dare release him before the end of the year.
He'll just be replaced by Stewart or Cox.
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| 10,797 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Brian Hall)
Subject: Re: New Duo Dock With Processor: Here's Why
Article-I.D.: netcom.mspaceC5315y.EwA
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 31
[email protected] (Travis Grundke) writes:
>"Why would Apple release a Duo Dock with a processor of its own?"
>Here's why- People have hounded Apple for a notebook with a 68040 processor
>in it. Apple can't deliver that right now because the 040 saps too much
>power, radiates far too much heat, and is too large for a notebook. How
>does one get around that without designing a new chipset? Use existing
>PowerBook technology to your best advantage. The Duo Dock gives Apple a
>unique ability to give users that 040 power in a "Semi-Portable" fashion.
>By plunking the 040 into the Dock, you've got "quadra" power at your desk.
>On the road, that 33mhz 68030 should be able to handle most of your needs.
>Okay, not the BEST solution, but its an answer to a no-win situation. :-)
>So, does this mean one will be able to use the PowerBook's processor in
>parallel to the dock's processor? Okay, we're getting REALLY hypothetical
>now...
It would also be great for another reason - when not docked, it could serve
as an ARA server to the large internal HD, your corporate email, etc. In
a pinch, you would also have two machines, instead of 1.5.
If they could couple that thought with RocketShare, and let you use both the
'030 on the PB and the '040 on the dock, it would be a mighty powerful dock.
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| 10,798 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Daniel S OConnell)
Subject: Re: Religion and homosexuality
Keywords: being liberal
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: University of Chicago
Distribution: usa
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> [email protected] (COMPUTER DUDETTE) writes:
>I just recently realized that I am bisexual, and also just recently returned to
>religion, and have a good friend who has pointed out to me that homosexuality
>is a sin in the bible. Well, I don't see how it could be considered a sin,
First of all as far as I know, only male homosexuality is explicitly
mentioned in the bibles, so you're off the hook there, I think. In
any event, there are *plenty* of people in many denominations who
do not consider a person's sexual identification of gay/lesbian/bisexual
as an "immoral lifestyle choice"
>Also, I have always been a somewhat liberal feminist, and am pro-choice, and it
>seems that being pro-choice and being religious don't mix either. I am told
This is another misconception. You are not being told the whole story.
My former minister is a lesbian, and I know personally and
professionally several openly gay and lesbian ministers. I am
a Unitarian-Universalist and like most others in my denomination,
am pro-choice. You needn't go looking to the Unitarian Universalists
(which is a liberal religion) for acceptance of your sexual
identification and pro-choice views, however; there are many of us
who believe in spirituality AND freedom of conscience.
Good Luck on your journey!
--
Daniel O'Connell
Meadville/Lombard Theological School
University of Chicago Divinity School
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0 | From: [email protected] (Robert L Ullmann)
Subject: Re: Why the algorithm is secret
Organization: The World in Boston
Distribution: na
Lines: 27
Exactly.
But I'll add another observation: if the chip does become a standard,
the algorithm won't _remain_ secret.
Leaving the government with the only remaining option: to make use
of un-escrowed keys illegal. Which won't begin to bother the terrorists
and child abusers the government is so fond of referring to.
Note that the Federalist papers stress _one_ reason for the right
of citizens to bear arms: to defend themselves _against_ the army.
_Our_ army.
IMHO the _primary_ purpose of private crypto is defend ourselves
_against_ the government. The odd terrorist I'm not worried about;
the goverment damages my quality of life every day.
Rob
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Quand Maigret poussa la porte du Tabac Fontaine, vers une heure et demie,
le patron du bar, qui venait de se lever, descendait lentement un escalier
en colima çon qui s'amor çait dans l'arri ère-salle. ... Arriv é derri ère le
comptoir, il repousa le gar çon d'un geste n égligent de la main, saisit
une bouteille de vin blanc, un verre, m élangea au vin de l'eau min érale et,
la t ête renvers ée en arri ère, se gargarisa. -- Simenon
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0 | From: [email protected] (David L. Pope)
Subject: Riddle me something else.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Lines: 11
> On the other hand, I wonder if,
> with a face full of "massive amounts of CS," *I* would be able to escape
> a burning tinder-box like that ranch house assuming my best efforts.
What ever happened to the 'Adobe Fortress' I kept hearing about? I
thought this was a 'Cult Stronghold'! If the kgbatf knew it was a
tinderbox, why didn't they just have all the talking heads line up
and start huffin' and puffin?
Random
| 10,801 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Ahmed Abu-Abed)
Subject: Re: Final Solution in Palestine ?
Originator: [email protected]
Nntp-Posting-Host: celeborn.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Lines: 59
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Harry Mamaysky) writes:
|> In article <[email protected]> Center for Policy Research <[email protected]> writes:
|>
|> Final Solution for the Gaza ghetto ?
|> ------------------------------------
|>
|> While Israeli Jews fete the uprising of the Warsaw ghetto, they
|> repress by violent means the uprising of the Gaza ghetto and
|> attempt to starve the Gazans.
|>
|> [...]
|>
|> The Jews in the Warsaw ghetto were fighting to keep themselves and
|> their families from being sent to Nazi gas chambers. Groups like Hamas
|> and the Islamic Jihad fight with the expressed purpose of driving all
|> Jews into the sea. Perhaps, we should persuade Jewish people to help
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> these wnderful "freedom fighters" attain this ultimate goal.
|>
|> Maybe the "freedom fighters" will choose to spare the co-operative Jews.
|> Is that what you are counting on, Elias - the pity of murderers.
|>
|> You say your mother was Jewish. How ashamed she must be of her son. I
|> am sorry, Mrs. Davidsson.
|>
|> Harry.
O.K., its my turn:
DRIVING THE JEWS INTO THE SEA ?!
I am sick and tired of this 'DRIVING THE JEWS INTO THE SEA' sentance attributed
to Islamic movements and the PLO; it simply can't be proven as part of their
plan !
(Pro Israeli activists repeat it like parrots without checking its authenticity
since it was coined by Bnai Brith)
What Hamas and Islamic Jihad believe in, as far as I can get from the Arab media,
is an Islamic state that protects the rights of all its inhabitants under Koranic
Law. This would be a reversal of the 1948 situation in which the Jews in
Palestine took control of the land and its (mostly Muslim) inhabitants.
However, whoever committed crimes against humanity (torture, blowing up their
homes, murders,...) must be treated and tried as a war criminal. The political
thought of these movements shows that a freedom of choice will be given to the
Jews in living under the new law or leaving to the destintion of their choice.
As for the PLO, I am at a loss to explain what is going inside Arafat's mind.
Although their political thinking seems far fetched with Israel acting as a true
super-power in the region, the Islamic movements are using the same weapon the
Jews used to establish their state : Religion.
Ahmed.
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0 | From: [email protected] (Ray Lauff)
Subject: The Abyss on LaserDisc
Organization: Temple University
Lines: 21
Nntp-Posting-Host: astro.ocis.temple.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
[ Article crossposted from temple.forsale ]
[ Author was Ray Lauff ([email protected]) ]
[ Posted on Wed, 21 Apr 1993 01:04:27 GMT ]
Regular CBS/FOX release of the wide screen edition of the movie
The Abyss for sale, asking $30, including postage. I want to
purchase the new director's cut and would like to unload this
LaserDisc if possible.
Two discs, unopened, 132 minutes, letterbox.
Email me if interested.
[email protected]
Ray
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| 10,803 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Mark Rogowsky)
Subject: Re: CD300 & 300i
Organization: Stanford University
Lines: 45
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Christian Bauer) writes:
>> In article <[email protected]>, "Donpaul C. Stephens"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > What is the difference?
>> > I want a double-spin CD-ROM drive by May
>> >
>> > looking into NEC and Apple, doublespins only
>> > what is the best?
>>
>> Nec Toshiba and Sony (Apple) nearly deliver the same speed.
>> As apples prices are very low (compared to there RAM SIMMS)
>> You should buy what is inexpencive. But think of Driver revisions.
>> It is easier to get driver kits from Apple than from every other
>> manufacturer
>>
>> Christian Bauer
>>
>> [email protected]
>
>
> I thought NEC and Toshiba CD-ROM mechanism have an average
>access time of less than 200 ms. While the SONY-APPLE CD-ROM
>drive has an access time of 300 ms for the doublespin models.
>
>- Chung Yang
>
The Toshiba has a 200ms access time, the NEC has a 280ms access
time, right around the Sony/Apple. Access time is, of course,
somewhat important, but not as vital in the case of CDs as data
transfer rate.
All the drives are double-speed drives with maximum data transfer
rates of 300K/second. Any is a good choice. Apple's is very cheap
when included with new Macs and I agree with Christian's comment
about drivers.
Plus, Apple's is bootable on the Centris and Quadra 800. A very nice
feature if you need to install System software. I don't know if the
NEC or Toshiba are bootable on those machines.
Mark
| 10,804 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents?
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
Lines: 15
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Allen W. Sherzer) writes:
>This prize isn't big enough to warrent developing a SSTO, but it is
>enough to do it if the vehicle exists.
Actually, there are people who will tell you that it *would* be enough
to do SSTO development, if done privately as a cut-rate operation. Of
course, they may be over-optimistic.
You can also assume that a working SSTO would have other applications
that would help pay for its development costs.
I'd be inclined to make the prize somewhat larger, but $1G might be enough.
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- Kipling | [email protected] utzoo!henry
| 10,805 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Timothy C. May)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: na
Lines: 51
Brad Templeton ([email protected]) wrote:
: It occurs to me that if they get a wiretap order on you, and the escrow
: houses release your code to the cops, your code is now no longer secure.
:
: It's in the hands of cops, and while I am sure most of the time they are
: good, their security will not be as good as the escrow houses.
:
:
: What this effectively means is that if they perform a wiretap on you,
: at the end of the wiretap, they should be obligated to inform you that
: a tap was performed, and replace (for free) the clipper chip in your
: cellular phone so that it is once again a code known only to the
: escrow houses.
Getting the court order to reveal the key *also* makes decipherable
all *past* conversations (which may be on tape, or disk, or whatver),
as I understand the proposal. I could be wrong, but I've seen no
mention of "session keys" being the escrowed entities.
As the EFF noted, this raises further issues about the fruits of one
bust leading to incrimination in other areas.
But is it any worse than the current unsecure system? It becomes much
worse, of course, if the government then uses this "Clinton Clipper"
to argue for restrictions on unapproved encryption. (This is the main
concern of most of us, I think. The camel's nose in the tent, etc.)
And it may also become much worse if the ostensible security is
increased, thus allowing greater access to "central office" records by
the government (the conversations being encrypted, who will object to
letting the government have access to them, perhaps even automatically
archiving large fractions...). This was one of the main objections to
the S.266 proposal, that it would force telecom suppliers to provide
easy access for the government.
One the government has had access to months or years of your encrypted
conversations, now all it takes is one misstep, one violation that
gets them the paperwork needed to decrypt *all* of them!
Do we want anyone to have this kind of power?
-Tim May, whose sig block may get him busted in the New Regime
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| 10,806 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Mark Ashley)
Subject: tape backup for windows
Organization: Harris CSD, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Lines: 18
NNTP-Posting-Host: hcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com
I'm looking for a complete hw/sw solution:
I need an ISA/VLB scsi controller (e.g Ultrastor 34F)
plus a tape drive (500Mb or less like Archive) plus a Windows
program that will work on these.
My intended system will have 32Mb RAM so
plain ISA controllers will no longer do.
But I also hear that the SCSI world
is not very organized.
So does anybody have a tape backup setup
like what I'm looking for ? Please
describe it.
Thanks. e-mail please.
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| 10,807 |
0 | From: [email protected]
Subject: St. Maria Goretti
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Lines: 125
Heres the life of St. MAria Goretti, posted with kind permission of
the editor of the Australian Catholic Magazine "Morning Star".
Hope you like it.
Put up with anything to prevent sin St. Maria Goretti
Maria was born on October 16th 1890 to Luigi and Assunta Goretti,
the eldest daughter in the family of seven. She was a cheerful
girl, always imitating her parents. She had but one disire, but
one wish: to receive our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament.
The date was finally set for little Maria to receive our Lord on
the feast of Corpus Christi. For Maria, time seemed like an eter-
nity as she slowly neared the great day. When it finally
arrived, Fr. Jerome( the priest who was to celebrate the Mass and
give the children their First Holy Communion) delivered a sermon
on the immense love of Jesus Christ for them and the great love
we should have in return for Him. He then warmly urged them to
die rather than commit a mortal sin.
Maria humbly approached the Altar of God and received the Holy
Eucharist. Her only sadness was the thought of her father's
absence, who died some time beforehand. As for the rest of the
day, Maria remained under the spell of the divine visit; that is
until
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her thoughts changed to when she could go next to Holy Communion.
Thus ended the happiest day of Maria's life.
Over the next twelve months, Maria had changed from a giggling
little girl into a quiet young lady with responsibilities. As her
mother went out into the fields in place of her husband, Maria
took on the ironing, cooking, washing and other motherly duties.
She was doing this not only for her own family, but also for the
Serenellis, a father and son who lived with the Goretti's, owning
a share in the farm. Although Maria was poorer than all the other
children, she by far surpassed them in virtue. In all thi ngs she
did the Holy Will of God.
During the month of June, Alessandro Serenelli(the son) twice
made advances upon Maria when he chanced to be alone with her. On
both occasions Maria managed to struggle free of Alessandro's
strong grip, but on the second, he threatened to kill her if she
even uttered a word to her mother. From this day on, Maria lived
in terror, fearing lest Alessandro attack again.
On July 5th 1902, Alessandro left work in the fields to "get a
handkerchief," as he claimed. He went to the storeroom beneath
the house where Maria, who was outside on the landing with the
baby, could hear him fumbling about in with tools. She wondered
what he was doing. It was later learned that he was sharpening a
91/2" blade. He went to the house and called for Maria. She told
him she wouldn't go to him unless she knew why she was needed. He
stormed out to the landing and dragged her up to her room. Mar ia
instantly realized what he was up to. "No, No, No! Do not touch
me! It is a sin, you will go to Hell!" At this point Alessandro
held the knife over Maria's chest, who was now on the floor.
"Will you or will you not?" Maria gathered all her energy. "No I
will not, Alessandro, no!" She had chosen her martyrdom over
sin, God over Satan. Overcome with rage, Alessandro plunged the
knife into Maria's breast fourteen times. Finally he came to
his senses and thought Maria was dead. Frantically he threw the
knife behind a closet and locked himself in his room. The crying
of the baby Teresa on the landing brought the attention to
Assunta and the father of Alessandro. As the baby was unattended
and was in danger of falling off, they ran to the house to find
Maria, who, covered in blood, was dragging herself to the door.
When asked what happened she said Alessandro stabbed her. "He
wanted to make me do wrong and I would not."
The ambulance arrived, then the police who took Alessandro away.
As the ambulance carried Maria to the hospital, a large crowd
followed on foot. The doctors at the hospital held no hope for
poor little Maria. The same Fr. Jerome who gave Maria her First
Communion
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came to administer the last rites and to give her Holy Viaticum.
He asked Maria if she would forgive her murderer. "Yes. For the
love of Jesus I forgive him. I wish for him to one day join me
in Paradise. May God forgive him, for I alread y have." Maria
died at about three o'clock.
Alessandro was tried and found guilty of Maria's death but
because of his age he was sentenced to only thirty years in
prison. After eight years of being a violent prisoner and show-
ing no regret for his crime, he saw in a dream, in the midst of
a field of flowers, Maria holding out a bunch of white lilies to
him. Soon later he wrote to the local bishop, begging God's par-
don for the grave sin he had committed. He later gave testimony
in Maria's beatification in 1947. Less than three years later,
on Ju ne 24th 1950, Maria was canonised. Assunta Goretti was the
first mother ever to be present at her daughter's canonisation.
May St. Maria Goretti help us to be pure and grant us the
strength to die rather than commit a mortal sin.
Saint Maria Goretti, pray for us.
by Brendan Arthur
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Viva Cristo Rey !! Long Live Christ the King.
| 10,808 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Pat)
Subject: Re: Comet in Temporary Orbit Around Jupiter?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
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Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ron Baalke) writes:
|Comet Gehrels 3, which was discovered in 1977, was determined to have
|been in a temporary Jovian orbit from 1970 to 1973. Comet Shoemaker-Levy 1993e
|may remain in orbit around Jupiter long enough to allow Galileo to
|make some closeup observations. The orbital trajectory for Comet
|Shoemaker-Levy is still being determined.
a
What about positional uncertainties in S-L 1993e? I assume we know where
and what Galileo is doing within a few meters. But without the
HGA, don't we have to have some pretty good ideas, of where to look
before imaging? If the HGA was working, they could slew around
in near real time (Less speed of light delay). But when they were
imaging toutatis???? didn't someone have to get lucky on a guess to
find the first images?
Also, I imagine S-L 1993e will be mostly a visual image. so how will
that affect the other imaging missions. with the LGA, there is a real
tight allocation of bandwidth. It may be premature to hope for answers,
but I thought i'd throw it on the floor.
pat
| 10,809 |
0 | From: [email protected] (Robert C Hite)
Subject: Re: DAVE KINGMAN FOR THE HALL OF FAME
Keywords: Hall of Fame, Winfield, Kingman, Murray, Joe Lundy, :-)
Nntp-Posting-Host: ravel.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: na
Lines: 15
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mark Singer) writes:
>
>I'm no Kingman fan. Just thought I'd point out that he's the
>only player in history to have five three-HR games. Joe Carter
>has four. Eddie Murray three. McCovey and Gehrig also three.
>Ruth, Mays, Foxx and Dawson two each.
>
Didn't Mike Schmidt also do this at least three times? I can
remember twice in Wrigley Field alone...he did it the same day
Kong did it in a 23-22 shootout, and he swatted four there one
day in April '76 (the month he set the April record with 11 HR's.
Anybody remember any of this? (I was just a kid)
| 10,810 |
0 | From: [email protected]
Subject: Help ! Miro Crystal or ATI GUP ?
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
Lines: 21
I'm planning to buy a new VLB/EISA system with a good graphic performance.
So far I looked at the ATI GUP VLB as my favorite graphics-card. But
recently I heard something about a new card from Miro. It was the Miro
Crystal 24s with 3 MB and True Color support up to 1024x768. It costs just a
little more than the ATI. So, can't decide which one matches better my needs.
Any technical references and performance comparisons (especially from the
Miro card) would be greatly appreciated.
-Peter-
E-Mail : [email protected]
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