In Secret Recordings Aired on Dr. Phil, Voice Said to Be Jared Fogle's Discusses Sexual Desires for Children 
 
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 Secretly-taped phone recordings aired on Thursday's "Dr. Phil" show allegedly carrying the voice of Jared Fogle contain admissions of the speaker's sexual interest in children. 
 
 
 
 Fogle, the former spokesman for the Subway sandwich chain, agreed in September to plead guilty to having sex with minors and child pornography, and will be sentenced next month to between five and 12-and-a-half years in prison. 
 
 
 
 Dr. Phil McGraw's producers acquired the Fogle tapes from Rochelle Herman-Walrond, a self-described journalist and former radio host from Florida who said she secretly recorded Fogle and became an FBI informant. (The agency has publicly acknowledged receiving the tapes before raiding Fogle’s Indiana home on July 7, but has not confirmed that Herman-Walrond ever worked with investigators as an undercover informant.) Additional audio will be aired during Friday's "Dr. Phil" show. 
 
 
 
 In one instance, the speaker, allegedly Fogle tells Herman-Walrond that he likes boys and girls of "all ages," adding, "that's the thing I mean. It depends...who is ready for what." 
 
 
 
 Herman-Walrond told McGraw that she tricked Fogle into thinking she was planning a party for him that would include several underage guests – friends of her children, she allegedly explained to him. The speaker then insists that Herman-Walrond wear skimpy clothing, saying it might get the children "sexed up." 
 
 
 
 In other audio, the speaker asks Herman-Walrond to describe her daughter's 7- and 8-year-old male and female friends. He wants specifics, he says, on those "you think are pretty hot" or "cute." The speaker also wants to know who "the most promising" of those children are. 
 
 
 
 At one point, Herman-Walrond describes a fictional 8-year-old girl who has problems at home. Later in the conversation, when Herman-Walrond asks what traits to look for in potential victims, the speaker keys in on the vulnerable child. 
 
 
 
 The speaker suggests "the girl from the broken home" as a "definite possibility," noting she might be more amenable to seduction if "you just show her some affection." 
 
 
 
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 The speaker suggests the couple take a trip in another clip. He's heard saying that "if we're gonna try to get some young kids with us, it would be a lot easier" to fly "to Thailand." 
 
 
 
 Speaker Allegedly Discusses Method of Sexually Approaching Kids The speaker alleged to be Fogle allegedly discusses getting closer to children in another clip, saying he would wait for one to "give you the glance" before making a move. He even outlines how he allegedly approaches kids: 
 
 
 
 "We just start sharing stories, and then, you know, we get a little closer, and a little closer, and a little closer, and before you know it, it just starts to happen," the speaker tells Herman-Walrond. He adds that it's not difficult "at all" to lure in children. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hermand-Walrond also told Dr. Phil she made notified Subway about the alleged Fogle recordings in 2011. The chain issued a statement saying that the complaint came via Subway's website, and that "there was nothing that implied anything about sexual behavior or criminal activity involving Mr. Fogle." But it added, "We regret that this comment was not properly escalated and acted upon." 
 
 
 
 In previews of Friday's program, the speaker appears to ask Herman-Walrond over the phone if she'd let him watch her 10- and 11-year-old children "get naked," and even suggests a camera be installed in her kids' rooms. 
 
 
 
 The audio was recorded over five years, Herman-Walrond told McGraw, and their conversations about children were tantamount to "phone sex," she said. 
 
 
 
 When they chatted, Fogle allegedly described "what he would like to do to children, what he's had children do to him, and he wanted me to have this special trip with him to Chicago to go to these crazy clubs and share in his fetishes," Herman-Walrond tells Dr. Phil. 
 
 
 
 "It was very creepy and very scary." 
 
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 Disqus ||||| A DR. PHIL EXCLUSIVE: THE JARED FOGLE SECRET AUDIO TAPES REVEALED: SHOCKING TWO-PART EPISODE AIRING THURSDAY, OCTOBER 29 AND FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30 
 
 
 
 “Jared Fogle is a Monster” – Rochelle Herman-Walrond 
 
 
 
 For The First Time, Hear Horrifying Secret Audio Recordings of the Former Subway Sandwich King Who Was Exposed As A Child Predator 
 
 
 
 (Hollywood, CA – October 27, 2015) – Shocking audio tape of telephone conversations with former Subway spokesman Jared Fogle, secretly recorded by former journalist Rochelle Herman-Walrond, in which Fogle discusses his sexual interest and sexual encounters with children, will be heard for the first time in a special two-part DR. PHIL exclusive, airing Thursday, October 29and Friday, October 30 ( check local listings ).Fogle, 38, the father of two, made headlines earlier this year when he was arrested and agreed to plead guilty to traveling to engage in paid sex with minors and distribution and receipt of child pornography. Fogle is scheduled for sentencing November 19 and prosecutors are seeking a sentence of between 5-12 years in prison.Herman-Walrond says she first met Fogle in 2006 when he was a guest on her local Florida radio show and she immediately became concerned when he mentioned that he found middle school girls attractive. She says that following her journalist instinct, she started a friendship with Fogle to dig deeper and she claims he continued to make comments about his sexual interest in children. Alarmed, she says she contacted the FBI and spent five years “role playing” and secretly recording conversations with Fogle to use as evidence against him.In part one, airing, Herman-Walrond describes befriending Fogle to gain his trust, reveals that the phone conversations with him would make her physically ill, and explains how the experience affected her family and gave her nightmares.In part two, airing, more shocking revelations from the audio will be heard, including Fogle talking about flying to an undisclosed location to have sex with a minor and his discussions about attending a children’s party to target potential victims. Also, find out what Herman-Walrond says has been haunting her for years and if she thinks justice has been served under Fogle’s plea deal.“Are there any of your kids’ friends that you think are pretty hot?”“I’m removing myself from who I am and embracing an imaginary person. I had to be two separate people in order to continue on with this investigation.”“You’ve got to take care of you. Whatever you have to do to heal whatever’s happened in you so you don’t get dragged down by him. That’s the real crime here. Even though you are through with him, he continues to impact your life by leaving some really bad marks on you.”“You just opened my eyes to the fact that I am one of his victims and that is something that I will stand tall and not become.”“I would fly us clear across the world if we need to. To Thailand or wherever we want to go. If we’re gonna try to get some young kids with us it would be a lot easier.”“What if we put a camera in your kids’ room, would they be okay with that?”DR. PHIL is produced by Peteski Productions in association with CBS Television Distribution, which also distributes the show. Carla Pennington and Dr. Phillip C. McGraw are the executive producers.
– Dr. Phil has aired the first of two episodes with alleged secret recordings of Jared Fogle—and it's stomach-churning stuff. In recordings made by FBI informant Rochelle Herman-Walrond, a man she identifies as Fogle talks about his sexual desire for children and discusses who might be the "most promising" victim at a pool party for young children that Herman-Walrond claimed to be planning, the Indianapolis Star reports. After hearing descriptions of boys and girls that the informant had invented, Fogle decides a 7-year-old "girl from the broken home" would be a "definite possibility." Herman-Walrond says the recordings, which Dr. Phil described as the "playbook of an evil monster," were made over four years. "I like all ages," Fogle says in one recording, per CNN. "That's the thing, I mean. I like all of them. You know." He says it isn't hard "at all" to lure children, and he waits for one to "give you the glance." "We just start sharing stories, and then, you know, we get a little closer, and a little closer, and a little closer, and before you know it, it just starts to happen," he says. Herman-Walrond—who says she gained Fogle's trust in order to bring him down, and that the experience has left her scarred—told Dr. Phil that she had made Subway aware of the recordings in 2011, though the chain says the complaint was made via its website and did not mention anything illegal, People reports. (Fogle, who will be sentenced Nov. 19, has already paid out at least $1 million to victims.)