i don't really agree with some things you said. virginity is what some poeple think makes a woman valuable. the only thing that makes a woman valuable to her husband according to them is that she only has ever slept with him. anything else besides that is being a monstrosity which is just wrong . There is this girl i know. she seems like the nicest, most kind girl ever. she's also quite attractive at the very very least. every guy i've seen that has seen her talks about how cute she is blah blah blah. but does it matter if she's a virgin? when it came to thinking about LTRing her, all i don't think about some other guy's dick having been inside her. and if she became the mother of my children? how could i care that their mother is a female who was used and dumped by some jackass chad, i wouldn't care she had such a hrrible past. it doesn't made me sick. Some say i should be glad i never LTRd her and that nobody should ever LTR a nonvirgin. plates and dates are OK but never marry. no cherry don't marry. no hymen no diamond. i just dont agree i think a woman is more than that to be honest. That girl, she's engaged now but has been for two or three years or something. is the guy a beta? i dunno, maybe that diamond ring is just being used to make him forget. they are living togehter. he might be using her as much as she is using him idk anyomore !