The question is, are you in it for the long run with these ladies, or the short run. I think most guys here are approaching it with the perspective that you don't catch feelings for these hoes or wife them up. If you plan to wife them up a 9 or a 10 when she's young you're not going to be able to win in the long run anyway because of the way it is in 2020. Even the guys with the money and driving the Lambo can still have their girl cuck them for bad boy rocker at the dive bar or the personal trainer with the tattoos at the gym.