text: In Secret Recordings Aired on Dr. Phil, Voice Said to Be Jared Fogle's Discusses Sexual Desires for Children 
   
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   Secretly-taped phone recordings aired on Thursday's "Dr. Phil" show allegedly carrying the voice of Jared Fogle contain admissions of the speaker's sexual interest in children. 
   
   
   
   Fogle, the former spokesman for the Subway sandwich chain, agreed in September to plead guilty to having sex with minors and child pornography, and will be sentenced next month to between five and 12-and-a-half years in prison. 
   
   
   
   Dr. Phil McGraw's producers acquired the Fogle tapes from Rochelle Herman-Walrond, a self-described journalist and former radio host from Florida who said she secretly recorded Fogle and became an FBI informant. (The agency has publicly acknowledged receiving the tapes before raiding Fogle’s Indiana home on July 7, but has not confirmed that Herman-Walrond ever worked with investigators as an undercover informant.) Additional audio will be aired during Friday's "Dr. Phil" show. 
   
   
   
   In one instance, the speaker, allegedly Fogle tells Herman-Walrond that he likes boys and girls of "all ages," adding, "that's the thing I mean. It depends...who is ready for what." 
   
   
   
   Herman-Walrond told McGraw that she tricked Fogle into thinking she was planning a party for him that would include several underage guests – friends of her children, she allegedly explained to him. The speaker then insists that Herman-Walrond wear skimpy clothing, saying it might get the children "sexed up." 
   
   
   
   In other audio, the speaker asks Herman-Walrond to describe her daughter's 7- and 8-year-old male and female friends. He wants specifics, he says, on those "you think are pretty hot" or "cute." The speaker also wants to know who "the most promising" of those children are. 
   
   
   
   At one point, Herman-Walrond describes a fictional 8-year-old girl who has problems at home. Later in the conversation, when Herman-Walrond asks what traits to look for in potential victims, the speaker keys in on the vulnerable child. 
   
   
   
   The speaker suggests "the girl from the broken home" as a "definite possibility," noting she might be more amenable to seduction if "you just show her some affection." 
   
   
   
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   The speaker suggests the couple take a trip in another clip. He's heard saying that "if we're gonna try to get some young kids with us, it would be a lot easier" to fly "to Thailand." 
   
   
   
   Speaker Allegedly Discusses Method of Sexually Approaching Kids The speaker alleged to be Fogle allegedly discusses getting closer to children in another clip, saying he would wait for one to "give you the glance" before making a move. He even outlines how he allegedly approaches kids: 
   
   
   
   "We just start sharing stories, and then, you know, we get a little closer, and a little closer, and a little closer, and before you know it, it just starts to happen," the speaker tells Herman-Walrond. He adds that it's not difficult "at all" to lure in children. 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Hermand-Walrond also told Dr. Phil she made notified Subway about the alleged Fogle recordings in 2011. The chain issued a statement saying that the complaint came via Subway's website, and that "there was nothing that implied anything about sexual behavior or criminal activity involving Mr. Fogle." But it added, "We regret that this comment was not properly escalated and acted upon." 
   
   
   
   In previews of Friday's program, the speaker appears to ask Herman-Walrond over the phone if she'd let him watch her 10- and 11-year-old children "get naked," and even suggests a camera be installed in her kids' rooms. 
   
   
   
   The audio was recorded over five years, Herman-Walrond told McGraw, and their conversations about children were tantamount to "phone sex," she said. 
   
   
   
   When they chatted, Fogle allegedly described "what he would like to do to children, what he's had children do to him, and he wanted me to have this special trip with him to Chicago to go to these crazy clubs and share in his fetishes," Herman-Walrond tells Dr. Phil. 
   
   
   
   "It was very creepy and very scary." 
   
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   Disqus ||||| Secretly recorded audio tapes that reportedly helped bring down disgraced former Subway spokesman Jared Fogle were played before a national audience for the first time on Thursday. 
   
   The recordings, in which Fogle apparently details his sexual attraction to minors, aired on Thursday's episode of "Dr. Phil," and the content was disturbing. Dr. Phil McGraw, the host of the daytime talk show, warned viewers that the graphic recordings may be inappropriate for children. 
   
   "I like all ages," Fogle says in one of the recordings. "That's the thing I mean. I like all of them. You know." 
   
   The apparent recordings were made by Rochelle Herman-Walrond, a former journalist who became suspicious of Fogle after he was a guest on her radio show. It was during that meeting when Herman-Walrond heard Fogle say that he was attracted to middle school girls. 
   
   In the years that followed, Herman-Walrond taped her conversations with Fogle for the FBI, providing damning evidence that ultimately led to the famed pitchman's arrest earlier this year. 
   
   Related: Jared Fogle pays out $1 million to victims 
   
   Fogle, 38, pleaded guilty in August to child pornography charges and to paying for sex with minors. He has paid out $1 million to 10 of his victims, and will be sentenced by a judge in November. 
   
   "Dr. Phil" will air more of the recordings on Friday's episode. 
   
   The FBI declined to comment on the tapes until their investigation was complete. 
   
   On Thursday's show, Herman-Walrond described to McGraw how she cultivated a relationship with Fogle in order to bust him. In the recordings, Fogle often discusses fantasies that involve both children and Herman-Walrond. 
   
   In the tapes aired on Dr. Phil, Fogle is heard talking bluntly about plans to have sex with both boys and girls. He also describes how he lured young children into sex and told Herman-Walrond that it was not hard "at all." 
   
   The interview was intense for Herman-Walrond, who broke down in tears as she described the emotional scars from her interactions with Fogle. 
   
   "I don't trust people like I used to," she told McGraw. "I have nightmares constantly." 
   
   Subway ended its ties with Fogle when the allegations surfaced. 
   
   Russell Taylor, the former director of Fogle's foundation, also pleaded guilty to child exploitation and child pornography. 
   
   CNN's Ryan Young contributed to this report
target: – Dr. Phil has aired the first of two episodes with alleged secret recordings of Jared Fogle—and it's stomach-churning stuff. In recordings made by FBI informant Rochelle Herman-Walrond, a man she identifies as Fogle talks about his sexual desire for children and discusses who might be the "most promising" victim at a pool party for young children that Herman-Walrond claimed to be planning, the Indianapolis Star reports. After hearing descriptions of boys and girls that the informant had invented, Fogle decides a 7-year-old "girl from the broken home" would be a "definite possibility." Herman-Walrond says the recordings, which Dr. Phil described as the "playbook of an evil monster," were made over four years. "I like all ages," Fogle says in one recording, per CNN. "That's the thing, I mean. I like all of them. You know." He says it isn't hard "at all" to lure children, and he waits for one to "give you the glance." "We just start sharing stories, and then, you know, we get a little closer, and a little closer, and a little closer, and before you know it, it just starts to happen," he says. Herman-Walrond—who says she gained Fogle's trust in order to bring him down, and that the experience has left her scarred—told Dr. Phil that she had made Subway aware of the recordings in 2011, though the chain says the complaint was made via its website and did not mention anything illegal, People reports. (Fogle, who will be sentenced Nov. 19, has already paid out at least $1 million to victims.)