TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  The person I can identify with whom we searched for him for two days is the CID called Motogelwa, who has been stationed at Botshabelo, who has detained the deceased, and who has his statement.  In many instances when we asked about him he just said he just arrested him and then he handed him over to the police.  When you wanted to know the name of the police he would not tell you.  He is the only CID called Mr Motogelwa who would give us an information about what happened.  I am requesting the Truth Commission that if it is possible you would try to tell - try to investigate about the reasons behind my son's death and inform the family.  And then again if the Truth Commission can help us, that maybe if God may help -if God may take me from this world my son's child would be with me, because people are fighting against us and then we are losing our children, though we don't want to lose them.  This police who is called Mr Motogelwa, who has arrested my son, is the one which I am requesting that if the Truth Commission may help he may tell us all about what has happened to him.  If we hear things from other people he was taken to Bloemfontein already dead.  When - the child has been killed in Botshabelo and taken to Bloemfontein dead, but this Mr Motogelwa would - because people said they have seen a corpse of a boy in the van.  There are those who saw him dead in Botshabelo, and they took him to Bloemfontein whilst he is already dead.  