TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Yes, and Swanepoel too.  And others do not know, I only heard that they were from Bloemfontein.  They would come at night, open the cell, took out their firearms, point them at me, and they said to me, "You are an APLA member, you killed white people.  We are also going to kill you."  And I said to them, "Please do not kill me.  Rather take me to prison."  They would pick me up in the morning and take me to their offices and torture me, together with the others.  But they were looking for me and Themba Linyatso, claiming that we were the leaders of our organisation.