MR HOCKEY
Yes, thank you Mr Chairperson.  I've got very few questions, most of the questions that I would have liked to ask, has been exhausted.  I must just say for the record that the statements made by both Mr Williams and Mr Kahanovitz, I stand by those statements and we have heard your responses to that.  That is in respect of what really happened, specifically in respect of the bombing incident.
	My instructions relate only to the bombing incident, however, just in clarification I've got one or two questions relating to the Tutu incident.
	My first question in that regard, Mr van Zyl, is your evidence in respect of the Tutu incident, is that you received an instruction to hang up a monkey foetus on the premises of Bishop Tutu, is that right?