UNKNOWN
In 1981, up until 1984, at that time the police were harassing us because they said to me they used to take me every time, they used to come to my house monthly to come and pick me up, or if they didn't pick me up, they just went to my home and detain me for a day or two days in Westbank.
 What they wanted from me, they were recruiting me because they wanted me to be their informer.  They told me that they know that my friends, all of my friends, they were showing me my friends' photos, that all of them are in exile at the present, at that time.  
 They were asking me why I was not in exile.  They said that it was clear that I was a member of the ANC, I was doing underground movements.
 They were trying to recruit me to be their informer.  And they said I must go to the meetings and listen and then go back to them to give them a full report of what was said in the meetings.
DUNCAN VILLAGE HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE
7 BR MAPISA
 They said that they will buy a house for me and give me money, but I didn't do what they wanted me to do.  And then they said that they would harass me and I will choose to leave the country because of their harassment.
 They harassed me and firstly I was like a person who was burnt.  Because as I was sitting at home, Madikizela used to come at my home together with the one policeman who was called Mbombo and he was (indistinct)
 They used to come to my house every time.  I looked like a person who - a burnt person, they checked me every time, even in Town.  They were always following me.
 They were harassing me and they will do things to me even around in Town and I was just leading that kind of life.
 On that occasion, there was an occasion, our Cultural Organisation was started at that time.  The African Culture Organisation.  We used to gather at the back of my house, at the back side of my house in the shack.  In that shack we were trying to do cultural events and we were trying to help people.
 We even had weekend classes where we were helping students in Maths and other subjects.  In this shack we even had our books for this Organisation, because we got he sponsor from someone who was interested in helping us in this cultural organisation.
 And he used to buy us books.