CHAIRPERSON
We have considered the issues before your people's argument and the panel is concerned with two issues on which we wish to hear argument only.  We're quite satisfied with the other aspects of the matter.
	The first one is what the impact is on the failure or absence or failure to acquire or the absence of an order to commit the crimes which are the subject of the discussion and secondly, in the event of this panel rejecting or disregarding the aspect of any Afrikaner Weerstands Bewegings activities in the area, what is the position of the applicants if we accept that their motive was in any event a retaliatory event in response to the assassination of Mr Hani and indeed also committed in order to send whatever message it is alleged they wanted to convey.
	Yes Mr Zilwa?