FERDINAND BARNARD
Mr Chairperson, I cannot place it in perspective when the Rosskamp incident took place, but I was involved in the Rosskamp incident.  I personally, with Calla Botha, burned out Anton Rosskamp's vehicle in the neighbourhood Yeoville.  The information that Brenda Miller gave with this regard that I injured my hand in this operation is correct.
	We arrived at Rosskamp's vehicle that evening.  I wanted to pick the lock of the vehicle.  I had the right equipment with me.  It was quite easy to get in.  I've done it before at various opportunities.  When  I started I saw that there was an alarm light in the vehicle.  I wasn't quite sure if it was a dummy light, or if it was really an alarm.  We did not want to - we wanted to be sure if there was a full tank of petrol.  We decided first to withdraw to a garage close by.  We decided that we are going to complete this job.  
	We took a four pound hammer.  I held it.  We then decided that Calla Botha will drive the vehicle.  We will drive next to Rosskamp's vehicle.  It was a densely populated area.  There was a lot of traffic on that evening.  There are a lot of blocks of flats.  I will get out of the car, I will smash the window of the vehicle with the hammer.  Mr Botha will then be ready with a tank of petrol, approximately 20 litres.  He will then walk towards the vehicle, throw this into the vehicle, then I will walk back and as he goes back to the vehicle, I will then light the Blitz and then set the car alight, which we then did.  The reason for this setting alight of the vehicle and the reason why I didn't want to put petrol on the outside of the vehicle and out of experience I knew and somebody also taught me this, that high octane petrol causes a chemical reaction and if you throw it with force in a restricted area, the gas will immediately set alight and that will create a large explosion.  It will shoot a windscreen of a vehicle out as high as a lamp post.  Well originally I also read in the media that they speculated that Mr Rosskamp's vehicle was damaged with an explosives device, but it was done in this way.