MR HUGO
I do not want to dwell on this for too long.  Let me just, for the sake of completion, put Mr Radebe's version to you.  He says that Mr Dube, himself and Mr Mbane and Mrs Khubeka went in their vehicle - were taken in their vehicle from the station to Winkelspruit and at Winkelspruit, at the old railway police's shooting range, the white members, amongst whom you were one, approached them and took her from the vehicle.  What is your recollection with regard to that?