MR WAGENER
The ANC says in its submission to the Truth Commission, Mr Chairman I said I think it's page 327 of the bundle, I have the full document before me.  They refer to this campaign of using landmines and they said that the decision for this operation was made at military head quarters.  Do you have any knowledge of this?  That the decision to embark upon this landmine campaign, was taken by your military head quarters.  Do you have any knowledge thereof?