MR MARTINI
Excuse me, Mr Chairman, may I just come in at this stage.  What Mr Kahanovitz put to the witness regarding what Mr Verster said, was said in a different context.    What Verster said was that the information would be verified regarding the identity of the person, but not the actual location or how the project was going to be executed.  That wasn't, as far as my recollection goes, the verification that was spoken about by Verster.