MR MALAN
Mr Dipakoane, just for the record, we're mentioning names here in public and especially the Minister Steve Tshwete, I just want you to confirm that according to your statement you you've never heard him say that, that's simply information that you got from another person Mkwanase, so as far as your evidence is concerned here that's hearsay and it's not first-hand knowledge. If you could just say yes or no, I don't want this to be pursued but at the same time I don't want names to be mentioned and some misunderstanding may go to the media.