PUMELELE CIVILIAN HERMANS
The information that we would get from the workers that he would have visitors coming from the direction of the coast, and the parcels that were suspected as weapons.  People from the office would visit Costello to try and solve the problem of the workers.
	We would not get respect from him, we would not get an opportunity to discuss with him, to discuss matters with him.  That became a problem and some of the workers were dismissed and there were problems which were never solved, because it was difficult for us to meet and discuss with him.