CHAIRPERSON
Maybe I must take it from a different angle, I don't know.  You've got the witches here and the wizards.  The majority of the people want to go back to Pretoria.  What did the wizards and witches and these
people who were involved in the ritual murders, what did they do, or how did they contribute to keeping you people from going back to Pretoria, or preventing you from going back to Pretoria?