JOHANNES JACOBUS VIKTOR
First of all I agree with you, there right at the top that is where the buck stops.  But I have told the Commission here that my men, and I don't reflect on the CDF, I was not their commander, my men didn't fire one shot.  But as I have said before I don't want to be drawn into any political comment.  What happened there, and as a policeman you know you are not without emotions and without feelings, but if I can really give a message to them it is once you choose your leaders, see that they act responsibly.  And that is what as far as I am concerned happened there that day.  As a policeman we all expected the crowd to go into the stadium and some leader or leaders decided no, we will do it differently.  So that is the one message I would like to give to them.  Pick your leaders that you can follow and once they have negotiated with the authorities or in that case I think it was Mr Hall and Dr Gildenhuys then adhere to what has been decided there.  I have no other message.  I am EAST LONDON HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE
25 J J VIKTOR
a policeman and I am satisfied that my men they did their duty that day, and I repeat, no reflection on my CDF colleagues, I wasn't there where the shooting started, I don't know what happened there.