MR PHOSA
No, I think so, but I am not asking about that, I am asking a different question.  That just happens to be one of the questions, I am not dealing with whether there is doubt or not, I am working up to a crescendo regarding a certain aspect.  It would become clear.
	Is it correct then that the position is this, to your knowledge the four of you, the killers of these two young people, accepted elimination, right?