MR VISSER
Yes.  That is why I wanted to clear it up more on behalf of the witness, because both these witnesses said exactly the same thing, it was translated as the same thing, it didn't really make sense in English.
	And that is why I gave her the opportunity and I do appreciate your input Mr Chairman.  I can then move on.
	Now, you gave a whole list of names ms Phahlane of policemen who were present at Fountains and you said Mamome, Mr Chairman, may I interrupt myself.  As promised I did present a list to the person who is recording the evidence, I didn't discuss it with him, but it did occur to me that he is not a scenographer, that through the Chair, you could ask him that the list be passed on with the tapes, to the people who is going to type it otherwise it won't help giving him a list instead of spelling it, otherwise we will be reduced to spelling it every single time.