GIDEON JOHANNES NIEUWOUDT
I know of two instances where I quoted from the Bible and I can just briefly refer to those two instances and it was not in this instance, the first one was with my case and I refer you to my application, page 98
"The State versus Sakkie Makuzoma"
He's the Director of Spoornet.  It was the Black Power theology, it was one the psalms being quoted and I referred them to Roman 13, that they had to obey the laws of the country and also the Government of the day as the present Government has also been put there by God.  
	And then the second instance where I dealt with the Bible and the second instance where I had a discussion with detainees with regard to the Bible was in the Young Christian Workers who were used by the Roman Catholic Church and the terminology that they usually used was:  "See, judge and act".  They see the opportunity or the problem and then they use the Bible to verify it and those are the only two instances where I refer to the Bible.  
	So, I'm at the assumption that Mamasela must have talked to some of the detainees or to the family - in that instance I never referred to the Bible, that is my explanation.