MR WILLS
I'm asking you why you didn't tell us that.  You see, why I ask this and what concerns me about this whole application with all five of you is that you all get together and you make these statements after reading everyone's affidavits and you submit these affidavits as if this is the whole truth and yet here we've come across something where you can't even remember it but you've gone up and you've given evidence under oath that you can remember this discussion and it's true so how can I believe what else you say?