MR BOOYENS
My Lord, I was always under the impression that if someone makes a statement in a document, I am entitled to speak to those witnesses.  I have spoken to Mr Liebenberg and he has given me that information.  The witness can deal with it any way he likes.  I am  not giving evidence, it's not necessary to give evidence.  There is nothing improper about it.  The name is there.  The Committee can call Mr Liebenberg, I fail to understand the objection.  I'm sorry.