TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  I have older children already, and one died in a car accident already.  I have a place in Clermont, but after some time I left Clermont and now I stay in Westville.  Briefly at Clermont were families who lived in peace, peacefully, but after some time we went through difficult times now, harassment and so forth, although I wouldn't even know where this started.  When I bring this picture forward, Clermont is a place where people have bought themselves sites.  It's not like a location, where people will pay rent and already occupy houses that were existing.  People were buying sites and built for themselves.  And I also grew up and I bought myself a site.  Through it all, as people who know where we come from, we were people who will appreciate to live in peace if anything.  No violence or no harassment should go on.  But when time went on things started to happen now as a result of Clermont being under the Zulu Government, KwaZulu Government.  Many people did not like this, but since people are so different, and have different interests, but most of us, the majority did not like the idea, because we knew that if we were under the discrimination, racist government, we will not exercise our rights.  To this day what brought me here is one of the things that led to our harassment.  One time there was a Commission that came into place that disclosed the truth, asking why didn't we want to go to KwaZulu Government.  Many things were listed, and I am one of those who were present at the Commission in Durban at Four Seasons.  My cousin accompanied me, who already is late now.  After a while we arrived there.  Some girls came.  I know one of those girls, although I don't quite remember her because this happened some time ago.  I asked her, "Are you also here?  I never thought you will come here."  She said, "No, I got off from a car, Jamile's car."  Now I asked, "Where is he?"  She said, "He is not here."