MR DORFLING
Lastly, it was found by Mr Justice Nugent that as there was, objectively speaking, in his view on the prima facie evidence no attack on the guards he had to consider whether the ANC guards might not possibly subjectively have foreseen that there was an attack.  In other words, whether in their minds, although there was on the facts not an attack, whether they perhaps might have thought there was an attack.  He considered that and he rejected the ANC's version that it could have been perceived as an attack.  What is your response to that?