MR BERGER
I am reading from the affidavit of Mr Victor Mthembu, paragraph 12.  He says that Dlamini first opened this meeting, this was on the Sunday, it would be the 14th of March 1992, 14th of June, I beg your pardon, 1992.  He said there was a meeting because our people were dying.
	They were being killed by the ANC people and Umkhonto weSizwe, do you remember that meeting?