CHAIRPERSON
Ms Thabete, may I interfere, I'm sorry to be doing this but with your indulgence may I interpose?  I just don't want to loose what you initially started with regard to the fighting that occurred as alleged by Mr Ndlangamandla between ANC and IFP supporters on that day.  When exactly did this take place?  You have given us an indication that the funeral was on the 30th November.  When did the fight break out between the ANC and IFP supporters?