CHAIRPERSON
I am going to ask you again.  We have all kinds of interferences with the sound, and there is now drilling which is going on outside, just try and be slow when you give your evidence.  It's very important for us to write down what you are saying.  You may proceed.  John Radebe then asked Mr Mkhwanazi what he should do, what should happen to you?  Will you come back to that?  What did John Radebe say to Mkhwanazi?