MS SANDI
They were holding us all.  Not dragging us, but they were holding us and we got to K Street and they said here are the comrades, and I said where are these big comrades?  They said, what we want from you is you are going to tell us where our firearms are which you took and went to give to the Mungundwana, the Rats, the municipal police.
 She said, I don't know what you are talking about, they said we saw you get into a casper, belonging to the Defence Force and we want our firearms, four of our firearms were taken by the police.
 By this time they were dragging her.  And she said I don't know about anything and I wanted to know what firearms are these.  Why can't you just talk  about this?  And she was clinging onto me and they dragged her with force from me and there was a biggish tree.
 We struggled for her and they eventually got her and they said we are going to show you, we want these firearms.  They dragged her and dropped her to the ground.  When she fell to the ground, some of them were kicking her and I
tried to protect her and wanted to know what firearms they were talking about.  And I got her again and she clung to me and they said to her, you are stubborn.
 I went to her and picked her up again and I was trying to move away.  These - my other children were starting to run away and I called them to come and help me.  I grabbed her and they grabbed her once again and dropped her to the ground for a third time.  I picked her up again, but this time, I don't know what it was, some of them were assaulting me on my head and my back and dragging me away from her.
 And in this time I could see a tyre.  When she fell, they put her near the tyre and they pulled me away and said that I should go home and telling me that they were going to deal with my daughter.  A group of them pushed me away, when we got to M Street, there were so many of them who said to me, you know where you stay, go home.
 When we got near number 17, I said oh, my God, my child, I don't know what they are going to do to this child.  And by this time they were throwing things at me and I started running.