MR LAX
Are you saying, just refer us to the section where this is what he says in his statement.  Maybe you can look for it later and just refer us to it at some point, because the way it came across to me was that you were putting it to him that that is what Vanana Zulu will say and does he deny that this is what actually happened.  This is why I was a bit surprised when you said to the Chair well, this is just a question, it is not a statement of fact.