MR ZILWA
Yes Mr Chairman, let's take a look at that.  Now I suppose it is common cause as the documentation exhibit, that is Exhibit B clearly indicates that the policy of the ANC as at that stage was that the ANC had taken a stance against violence.  Now the question as I understand it, was seeing that the applicants' action in killing the Weakleys amounted to an act of violence which could be said that, against a stated policy of the ANC.  Now could it be said that they acted in support of the ANC?
	Now before I address that question directly, let's take a look at the facts.  What are the facts?  The facts are that as I say it's common cause that the ANC had taken a stance against violence but now the surrounding circumstances very much appropriate to take a look at, they are crucial in addressing that whole question.  Now the surrounding circumstances are such that, given that the ANC had taken that stance against non-violence, but an event of such magnitude such as that it can be said that it's an event the like of which had never been seen in this country and which plunged this country in the chaotic situation in which it plunged it had occurred.  Now extraordinary events can be said to call for extraordinary measures.  Now it is a fact that as at that time, the clear policy of ANC was that it had a stance against violence but now this momentous event that threatened to completely sweep away the fragile peace process that was being brokered at that time, now the effect of that on the mind of the ordinary person or on the mind of a person such as the applicants has to be taken into account.  Now a suggestion is that...[intervention]