MR SMUTS
Well, with respect Mr Chairman, it would be my submission, improper to return a finding based on only one of those criteria.  The interpretation given to the Act by the constitutional court in the Azapo judgement in 1996, Volume 8 of the Butterworth Constitutional Law Reports and I refer to ...[inaudible] Mr Justice Mohammed found the following
"Moreover, it will not suffice for the offender merely  to say that his or her act was associated with a political objective.  That issue must independently be determined by the Amnesty Committee pursuant to the criteria set out in Section 23, including the relationship between the offence committed and the political objective pursued and the directness and proximity of the relationship of the proportionality of the offence to the objective pursued."
That's not a suggestion, with respect, that once one finds one of the criteria met, the question is no longer open and my respectful submission, it requires a weighing of the criteria in their entirety and that is the thrust of the finding in the Azapo judgement.  My ...[intervention]