MR STEPHENS
Correct, once they crossed the street - by then the Police had moved up towards the marchers.  Maybe that's when - like Mr Berger says, they did try and stop them, I don't know.  In that - maybe it was a question of 5/10 seconds where they were holding their hands up and telling the guys not to march.  I might have been looking away in those 5/10 seconds, that's why I never saw it.