CARL CASTELING BOTHA
Well generally Mr Barnard and myself monitored or visited Dr Webster's house.  I think it was three or four times, I would say it was four times.  We monitored movements and to see if he appeared and certain opportunities, I think it was the 1st of May 1989 Mr Barnard came to pick me up at my residence in a white vehicle and we again followed the normal routine to the monitoring of the house and the observation that took place there and on that specific day Dr Webster drove past us in a white pick-up or bakkie and Mr Barnard felt that this was the ideal moment to execute the project and he continued and eliminated the person with a sawed-off shotgun.  I acted as the driver of the vehicle and that was in general my participation in the project.