MR MUKADAM
Madam Chair, if I may approach?  The problem that I am experiencing right now is this hearing is an application for amnesty against particular victims.  Those victims are not present as yet.  I understand that they come from Pietermaritzburg.  They had a problem with transport yesterday when I consulted with them.  I understand they may be experiencing similar problems.  Considering the idea of reconciliation that permeates these hearings, I would submit that this matter should stand down till the arrival of the victims.