SOLLIE ZACHERIAS SHOKE
I think Mr Ramose died a long time ago and I doubt this (indistinct).  When I started in the Transvaal Urban Machinery (indistinct) Ramose was the first commander of the Transvaal Urban Machinery and thereafter Siphiwe Nyanda took over from him and I think you should also bear in mind that structures change, people change their responsibilities at different times.  Thank you.