PIETER JOHANN VERSTER
Chairperson, the exact number is in previous documentation and at previous occasions has been given.  If I recall correctly, it was in the vicinity of 160 members and reason why it is difficult to say exactly, because certain members were directly or as we called it, members who knew and then there were members who did not know, so there is a connection in that regard that makes it difficult to quantify.  Approximately 160.