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Now, I don't know if you have with your legal representative, gone through the documents attached to Selebe's application, these particular documents in this supplement?  I was just reviewing over the lunch break, the statements in this document, page 9 by one Gehlig and the statement on page 15, by Van Wyk and the other documents essentially relating to what I think is the same application that you are making now.  I am right in that, am I, that you have seen the documents and it is the same set of facts and circumstances essentially as Selebe's?