MR BOTMA
It is in fact important Mr Chairman with regard to a witness. Can I repeat myself. About a witness who was on the scene and who could see down at the vehicle. In other word if the truck was parked in front of the Toyota van then of course one would not have, it is possible he could not have noticed the van. That is the only reason for asking the question. But if I can proceed on that point. Did Thanduxolo approach you while you were in the vehicle?