CHAIRPERSON
Yes, thank you, thank you very much.  It really just leaves the question of the robbery count that the applicant was convicted on and was given a fairly heavy sentence of eight (8) years for a robbery of what is given as R380,00 on the papers before us, and the applicant has indicated to us that he had a clean record.  I haven't looked at the judgment on sentence in any great detail, but I approach the matter on that basis.  I think you have already made the submission quite correctly that of course if there is not a confirmation that was in fact part of the incident in question, then technically speaking it leaves that particular count out of the issues that we would be able to have a look at.  Is that how you submit the matter stands at this stage in view of the situation that has developed around this robbery count?