MR B WILLIAMS
Alright, I want to come back to one point regarding the ability of Bellingan and Liebenberg to arrest people.  Captain Bellingan has indicated that for a number of reasons, which I'm not going to repeat now, it was not possible for him to arrest anybody.  I want to ask you would you agree that since you had contact with this group that if he wanted to arrest them he could have arrested them with your assistance.  What do you say about that?