TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  I ask this Commission to forgive me when I am crying.  It's not my intention, or to show people who are looking at me, but when I recall these incidents, these incidents which happened to me were painful.  But what I would say is that by then to be in Lesotho I had problems there.  There was a relationship between the South African Police and Lesotho Police.  And then again there were technicians like Mr van der Walt, who were sent to Lesotho to help the Leabua Jonathan's administration or government.  Although I was a South African citizen I was forced to go back to Ladybrand to renew my passport, because previously I was detained, and the circumstances not known to me that I was arrested because I was alleged to incite people in Lesotho to overthrow the Leabua Jonathan's government.