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I would like to just say what I had said from the translation.  She was doing the frog-jumps, because if she did not do them she would have been kicked.  That is how the interpretation has come through to me.  She did not give evidence that she was kicked, but on grounds of this we put the question through the Chairman to you, but when did she say she was kicked.  So, as regards the translation which came through to me, she did not say at that stage that she had been kicked, but she would have been kicked had she not done the frog-jumps.  I do not know if your interpretation is correct.