CHAIRPERSON
What is happening now Ms Coleridge, are we going to proceed or - I would be loathe to proceed with the leading of Mr Webb at this stage, because Mr Wessels is not here, and the understanding of the evidence of Mr Verster who Mr Wessels represents, that there may be certain points which may be in dispute, and if we proceed without Mr Wessels, then it might lead to a delay later, getting hold of a typed record, etc.