MS PATEL
Thank you Chairperson.  Perhaps just to clear my confusion as to the evidence you've led about Petrus, my understanding is that this applicant was convicted of the public violence case in respect of Edward Mahvunga, not in respect of Petrus Mahvunga and that in fact is an incident that took place on the 28th of February as well.
	Perhaps before I pose any questions to the applicant Mr Ndou can clear up ...(intervention)