CHAIRPERSON
Thank you.  Yes, thank you.  Mr Visser said he's appearing for applicants number 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, Mr Nel for number 1,  Mr van der Merwe for number 8, Mr Hugo for number 9 and there seems to be no one for applicant number 7.  Does any body know if applicant number 7, that is Marthinus David Ras (Jnr.) has any representation?