MR RANI
I commend him because even now I am - I  can say I am cured.  Even when I went to Court, when I had to appear in Court, luckily because we were kidnapped from Rhodesia, nobody knew where we were.  When we got to Pretoria we were split up and then luckily one of the prisoners came, he told me not to close the window, the one behind me.
Nobody was allowed to talk to me, and he threw a small piece of paper through the window.  And now he was trying to find out what have I done to - for me to be here.  So I also wrote a little note, I also threw it through the window, when it - when it got to him outside, I said to him he must give it to the police outside - he must - I wanted to tell him that I want to get out of here.
They must give this prisoner R60-00 he also - he did that already.  He doesn't know that I am sending him to - to Modise - Joe Modise.  When he got to Joe Modise, he told Joe Modise that so and so is arrested, they said he is [indistinct] at a certain place.  On a certain date he is going to Court, he said all right, he was given the money, he met with the lawyer, Cultan and the lawyer he told the lawyer to come and represent me in Court.
I wasn't aware that Cultan was my lawyer, but when he came in here, he told me no-no I am - he told me that I am late, this is the person I am here to defend.  Now he - he told me that he is a national lawyer then he can't defend anyone in this case.  He said we'll meet in the next world.
He said Mr Kotze, and then he told ahh, you under arrest, he said hey hide.  So me and Titus we hit, and then I asked him hey why are you arrested, he said I don't know, that what - that's why I am here, I want to find out.  He told the lawyer why am I arrested, and the lawyer said yes, the lawyer himself wanted to find out who was  here to represent me, because nobody knew us.  We were kidnapped, from Rhodesia so nobody knew us, so he was also worried who knew anything about us.
Okay the lawyer took my statement, okay we were given, the verdict was passed, but now Titus knew and his wife that - that he simply left.