PIETER JAKOBUS GOUWS
Yes, and this is one of the reasons I started out with the political scene right in the beginning in 1989 because in this whole Northern Free State I think the political awareness during that period up to 1994 was tremendous, or immense I should rather say, it was immense and it worked through to the security forces and to the policemen and I would say they were under a lot of local pressure from the local communities and amongst the people that they operate and they would deal with everyday, there would have been a tremendous amount of pressure being placed on them and they probably would have been in certain cases, might have been members of specific political parties - for that I cannot vouch, I do not know, but independently if they were members of any of the different political parties, on all of them would have been a lot of pressure.