LERATO ABEL KHOTLE
Firstly, I would say, as Mr Khotle, I was a member of A P L A, that's APLA.  APLA has a chain of command, and then as the regional commander I was a subordinate and there were those who were above me, I had to consult with them before I do any commission or any operation.  There are two things.  One, (Sotho), I would receive some instructions, then I would follow those instructions.  Secondly, of that chain of command... (intervention).