MR MARTINI
Hundred percent, it's hearsay.  But one might have to call the witnesses from the case Mr Bizos referred to.  Chairperson, I'm not going to make an issue, I just do believe it would be improper and the Committee - Mr Bizos in their Heads, are asking the Committee to revoke it.  Certainly, on the record I'm not agreeing to it, because I believe there's prejudice, but the Committee can make a decision.