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Yes.  No, the point is Dhlomo was killed in 1988 and then since then, no-one came forward and say we have information about the death of Dhlomo.
	Even the Security Branch guys who knew.  So what I am saying is that these guys, the Dube group could have done something to surprise me, but they did not.  They were willing to cooperate with me.