MR MKHIZE
Chairperson, I've already indicated that the situation was such that we could not have started with political strategies because if we did that we would not have succeeded.  But I too, as a person who could do my own calculations, realised that the situation wanted bloodshed first and later divert people to the correct direction.
	Secondly, I would like to refer to the point that I opted to recruit other people and leave Caprivians behind or out.
You see, for example, if I were fighting you and your wife would be suspected of being in love with me and who would you trust if you trusted your wife before but you would never again divulge your secrets to your wife because you now have suspicions that she is in love with me while I'm your enemy and for example if your wife was drinking alcohol and you would realise that your secrets are no longer safe because people could now easily know because your wife had now become weak and therefore I am trying to say, look at this whole thing from the point of reality. 
	Let us look at it dramatically as to how it exactly happened.  Let us not theorise about this.  I explained before the Commission here that these boys were now drinking with girls and they were drinking and had become troublesome at work.  We would for example take Umpanza, a drive with him in a van so that he could sober up after having been drinking.  That is another Caprivian - I don't know how I could have used such a person in the kind of sensitivities and operations that we were engaged in.  I am therefore trying to say, look at this from the point of view of how it exactly happened, do not theorise about it.
ADV. MOTATA: If we look at reality that we even have the background furnished by yourself about the training you received in Caprivi.  Part of it was even propaganda.