MR VISSER
Let's talk about the political objective which the Committee needs to find to have existed in regard to the acts for which you apply for amnesty for, and please if I may try to explain this again, I am only involved on behalf of victims in three incidents and I will make a staunch effort of confining myself to those three.  Unless there is a general question which may affect the others.  The one is the Church Street bomb; the other is the Roodepoort bomb and the other is the Krugersdorp Magistrate's Court bomb.
	Mr Chairman I have found in the Beeld of last week a very useful diagram, I wonder whether I have got a copy which you can perhaps have - perhaps you may find the same help from it that I have.  It's a little organogram which sets out very succinctly exactly - let me just quickly find it Mr Chairman.  I have made copies.  It may save time.  I have one here Mr Chairman.  Perhaps my learned friend Mr Steenkamp, if you are interested in it, can make copies for all of us.  I have one.