MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, while there is an interruption in your concentration or in the line of evidence, I find myself compelled again to mention what I did mention this morning, Mr Chairman.  How is this related to any particular incident which is serving before you for an application for amnesty by any person?  We cannot go on like this, Mr Chairman.  I find the evidence of the witness fascinating, but we cannot just go on with matters hanging in the air.