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Can I ask you then to look at Staal Burger's amnesty application at page 144 of bundle A.  Now maybe we should just start at the bottom of page 143, under the heading "The Gavin Evans Incident".  It says that Gavin Evans came under the attention of the CCB, and for that reason it was decided to monitor him to see if he was involved in activities which undermined the security of the State, correct?  That's what he says.