MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, my Attorney has found the reference, it is over the page, at page 6.
	Perhaps we should just deal with that aspect straight away.  You say in the second last paragraph, well, perhaps I should just start a little above that, I know one of the others also shot with the other 6.35 pistol, but I cannot remember who it was.
	So what you are saying is that you remember somebody else shooting, but you can't remember that it was, who it was, therefore you cannot remember that it was McCarter.  We now know it was Mr McCarter?