MR VISSER
I have no doubt, Mr Commissioner, that you are correct.  The only point is that from our enquiries we could not obtain a copy.  Well, they are in Kimberley, if you want to direct questions to them, we can have them brought here and they can answer your questions, but we fully agree with you, Mr de Jager.  The only point that I am making is we could not obtain a copy and what is strange is that it seems that everybody had a copy.