MR VISSER
Yes, yes.  Well that takes care of a lot of questions because then I misunderstood your evidence, because I was under the impression, clearly incorrectly so, that you sought to draw a distinction to say that for example in the case of the Church Street bomb that was a special ops operations.  MK didn't know anything about that; ANC didn't know anything about that.  Only - I am wrong with that am I not, I am clearly wrong if that is the impression I got from your evidence?