VOICE SAMBO
Even now I'm not saying that I did see two firearms in his possession, but I'm explaining that, as  a trained person and I'm of the view that Van der Spuy was a trained official and he could possess two firearms. Despite the fact that I can only see one firearm, it's possible that he might have two, and the second one, he can use it if he realises that I've disarmed him the first one. That's what I'm trying to explain.