MR KINCAID
Page 41, sorry Mr Chairman.  He is also seeking amnesty for the attempted murder of Mr Pretorius and housebreaking with intent to or to commit a crime unknown to the State of Mr Senti's home, damage to Mr Senti's window and damage to Mr Pretorius' property.  On those counts none of these convictions suggest that the motive was to rob the victims or in any way act in a way to their economic prejudice.  All these convictions are consistent with a prior plan to intimidate a farmer, to forcefully oblige him to vacate his farm.  Mr Cobus and Mr Pretorius, neither of them surrendered any firearms, none were obtained, but there's nothing to gainsay the motive.  The cutting of the telephone wires were necessary, a part of the attack on Mr Cobus as was the housebreaking, all those convictions are consistent with the motive to intimidate and to rob.  In respect of count 11 however, which is the attack on Mrs Clackers I have made a concession already and I won't be addressing that conviction but in my respectful submission this applicant made a full disclosure, true disclosure of his involvement and the attack on Mr Cobus and on Mr Pretorius.  He wasn't charged with assaulting Mr Pretorius, but on his own evidence he set about striking Mr Pretorius after he had fallen to the ground, that evidence wasn't led at trial, he didn't face the jeopardy of that charge.  So that's indicative in my respectful submission of his bona fides.