CHAIRPERSON
What I'm trying to do is - what is it that we can do to avoid having to waste time unnecessarily?  You see, because unless there is something that you can point out which would be highly prejudicial to the first applicant it these proceedings commence in his absence because if there is anyone at any stage in his absence who implicates him, we will be prepared to have the matter stand over so that he can deal with that matter as and when he comes here.