MR KNOETZE
Mr Diedericks, firstly can I refer you to page 12 from the bundle of applications, and it's that of Kloppers, the one I already referred to this morning, I want to read to you paragraph 17
"I arrived at the roadhouse at nine o'clock and Deon Martin brought them into attention.   I told them that the waiting is over and that the revolution would start that specific day and all over the country.   I also conveyed to them the instruction of General Oelofse.   They were told that General Oelofse wanted to see bodies, and I also handed out the two pipe shotguns to Visser and Martin van der Schyff.   I also told them we'd set up a roadblock where people will be questioned and that we should confiscate weapons and ammunition."
You would agree with me that if you look at this section of his affidavit or his application, that he did not give a weapon to you initially?