JOHANNES ALBERTUS STEYN
It may be the incorrect choice of words, but ultimately we had to do everything.  To put it briefly, we could not allow that another dispensation be established here by a revolutionary takeover.  And we Mr Chairperson, and myself, were indoctrinated in the sense that we felt and I heard Mr Vlok testify earlier where he said the following.  We created a climate, we created a situation in which the Security Forces and especially the Security Branch of the police, did these things.
	And Mr Vlok said a terrorist in the hands of a Security Branch, was not far from an action that fell within the parameters of the normal police activities.