FERDINAND BARNARD
I was not physically involved in the election, but during the time that I spent there, the pre-election was held.  That is when I was there, but I was not specifically involved there.
	What did take place was that there were discussions, Kobus le Roux and I had social dealings, and at one point we had a conversation and he told me that he was involved with the Lubowski and Tjongarero matters, he and his people were involved in the disruption of the elections in Namibia.  Then he gave me examples of how they planned to interrupt the elections.  One had to do with poisonous snakes.  
	He conveyed it as such, that there were projects under way.  He said that the CCB had a vegetable farm in Namibia, that that was allegedly the front.