MR DORFLING
It goes to more than that Mr Commissioner, it goes to a regrouping.  Mr Kruser gave evidence to the effect that there was a regrouping, it goes to the noise and the sounds that were being made and it goes thirdly to the nature of their movement being a so-called war dance.  A hesitation at the corner with a war dance and then a charge forward.  The conflict I'm pointing out is that according to this witness, he was already passed the corners of King George and Plein Street going up northwards towards de Villiers Street as he saw the marchers coming into the intersection.  There was no hesitation, no regrouping, no war dance and they approached very very quietly.  Those are the three contradictions I point out.