LUCKY JAMES HLENGWA
I received knowledge or information from Luthuli, Mdluli and Dlamini were the people who had initially  given me information and they had also received that information from Luthuli.
	They are the people who told me that that opportunity had arisen to acquire weapons, because Luthuli had told them that they would be escorting this pension money, so all this information had been gathered from Luthuli, who was amongst the people who would be escorting people paying out pensions.