DR GILDENHUYS
Not in respect of the second march.  In respect of the first march there was an agreement which was honoured.  In respect of the second march the permit issued by the magistrate allowed the marchers into the stadium.  It was not part of my negotiations.  I should add that I impressed upon the Ciskei authorities that they ought to allow the marchers into the stadium, but the actual permit was not negotiated by me.