DR BORAINE
In a moment I am going to ask Mary Burton to assist you in telling your story.  It goes back a very long time in fact in 1963 legislation was passed in Parliament which enabled the police to detain people or a maximum of 90 days  without trial.
That of course increased in subsequent years.  But three months - perhaps a little more than three months after that, Khulile Looksmart Solwandle Ngudle, was detained.  He was amongst the very first South Africans to die in detention and you've come to tell us that story and I am going to ask Mary Burton if she will lead you and help you to do that.