MR D'OLIVIERA
Mr Chairman, as I have argued before, the police were in actual fact called upon to do policing activities outside of normal policing activities.  This was an area in which there was unrest to such an extent that numerous murders, attempted murders, all linked to the political objective of the ANC were being conducted.  It is not a general lawlessness area, it was perhaps the intention of the deceased to make it lawless.  And it was this in particular which the police had to deal with.  On the one hand one can say, yes of course the police must use the only part of normal policing, but the fact of the matter is, as we know it now, they were not only used for normal policing.