TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  He didn't say, because when I asked him, he said, "He didn't say his name, but if I explain to you, because you know our customers, you will realise who it was".  So I said, "No, don't talk over the phone.  We will discuss it in the evening".  I said he must close the shop and run away and come back home.  He said no, he wasn't going to do that, because he hasn't quarrelled with anybody and what they are accusing him of he doesn't know.  He asked me, "If you were working previously, who are these men who had arrived?"  I said, "I didn't see any men arriving in the shop who are IFP".  That's when we stopped talking and we were going to discuss these things further in the evening, so that he could relate everything to me.  I went to church.  I came back from church and I just stayed at home.  I was preparing for him to come back, so I cooking nicely, because it was on a Sunday.  At about five or maybe six in the evening another telephone arrived and there was - this woman who was helping me look after my baby picked up the telephone call.  She said, "Do you this phone I was talking on, it's saying that the shop was attacked.  The car was burnt and they cannot find your husband".  We didn't know who was making this call to us.