THELE NATHANIEL MOEMA
Two things.  In the course of the proceedings I was scribbling some notes but I decided probably to shelve the notes and just speak to impress upon the honourable Judge, Chairperson and every member of the proceedings how one feels about the case itself.  And in the course of the
evidence given by Dirk Coetzee, he did mention the fact
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that Isaac Moema, my brother, was somebody who was very intelligent, very quiet, non-smoking person, non-drinking person.  And what happened on the basis of that observation, on the basis that probably at the time of his capture and taken to Vlakplaas he did not fit within the mode of their culture and therefore he deserved to die, to be killed.  I feel strongly about it.  My mother is not here today, my father is (indistinct).  When we left this morning from home she said, she cannot stand the pain of listening to the proceedings about how gruesome a death her son died.  So she said go and listen and reflect on what the proceedings are and express her deepest I don't know what, but very, very painful for her and now she is waiting at home, she does not know what is happening, she expects us to get back to her and tell her something.  I am not quite sure when I get back home what is it that I will tell her to ensure that - to find solace in whatever I am going to tell her.  But if being intelligent, being quiet is a criteria for one to die then it really brings to light the kind of anarchy that reigned at the time at Vlakplaas.  It caused for me to begin really questioning why is it that I have to explain something that is so obvious and the facts are there for everyone to see. 
	In 1991 I think, at the time of the Harms Commission, if I am not mistaken, 1991, I am sure, yes, I was called in to give evidence at the Harms Commission, and I went through this, I am going through this again.  My mother wasn't there, I was in London, she was here, Dirk was in London, he couldn't give evidence to the Harms Commission because of his conditions of being in exile, I was in exile, I was called in to give evidence, I did give evidence.  But what
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was clear was the ineptitude, the obvious lack of sensitivity of the pain that one was going through, listening to what was going on and clearly from the word go the Harms Commission was a farce, and I am not trying to construe that the Truth Commission is a farce.  But one would expect much more from the proceedings that are going on here.  My mother would like to know where her son is, why was it that he had to die.  If they felt he was a threat to the State, there was recourse to the legal proceedings, the criminal justice was available if he was a criminal, or if there was any case against him.  If it was just felt that he was a threat to the State at the time, a charge should have been laid against him and he would have gone through the normal court proceedings and be sentenced like many others that got sentenced and went to Robben Island and many other prisons that we have in the country.  So that by saying this one is not - I am not so much here to protest, to send any protestation against the applicants in the amnesty, that is not what I am here for. I am here to express the deepest - Your Honour, I left the country because of the pain I'd gone through.  I've lived in exile, I've lived under very harsh conditions, but this is one of the worst moments for me to be sitting here to try to say how the family feels about what has happened and ... (witness distressed) ... can I round off by asking two questions and hopefully I will be able to let my mother who is at home probably sleep in peace.  Just two questions.  Can somebody go to her and say I have committed the murder, I am sorry.  The second one is, can somebody take us or take her to say this is where your son is, this is where his last remains are, if there are any remains that are still available for one to see.   I am not
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in a position to proceed.  I've got a whole list of questions that I wanted to ask to satisfy myself, but I don't think I should proceed.  And I would like to thank you all.  Thank you.