ISRAEL NYONI HLONGWANE
Yes, I can see that, sir.  Before I explain here.  In Davel, after the burning of the house, I realised the need that - I realised it's not going to work because there are ANC members who like to avenge, so I have to get people posted in Davel since it was not necessary to have them in Ermelo.  So each and every house we posted young men and one day as I was coming to check my posted men.  I was with Jomo, Bongani Khaba and Sdiga.  I started from Mkhonza's place.  I found Bongani.  I ask the whereabout of Dumisani.  Bongani said, "Dumisani have just left.  He is going to Felani's place".  And I said, "Okay, I'm going".  And I passed to another place where there's a lady by the name of Gumbe.  I checked that place and thereafter I went to another man's place by the name of Mathibula, I don't remember if he was an Ikatha member.  I found some young men there.  I asked them how they progressed.  Unfortunately I had three (3) rounds in my firearm and I realised that things were still fine.  When coming back I met about fifty young men.  They asked me how does it come about that the ANC people are getting killed.  They stopped us in the middle of a road, they were holding stones and fork spade and spades.  They said during the times of the Black Cats, it was Sibusiso, I don't remember well, I think he ran away with my identity or my photo to join the ANC in Davel and they already know me and I could see that as they start ask questions to this man that there will be problems.  And I asked Sdiga and Jomo to keep quiet and I told them that it's better that I speak to these men to avoid any conflict.  The information they had was that there was a policeman from KwaZulu who is killing ANC members.  Things became tough.  I was armed with this 9mm which I got from Noah and there were many and they were having stones on their hands.  I pulled out my firearm.  This shining gun like the glass windows at the interpreters' booths and it is - I mean the frame, the steel frame.  They said it's a toy and they came towards me.  I shot one on the arm and I realised that I only had three (3) bullets, and when I shot Sdiga and Bongani realised there's going to be a fight and they ran away and I was left.  I gave them a distance to run away and they didn't enter Mkhonza's place, they passed the place and ran.  I shot one on the arm, they all scattered and I was left with two shots and I ran away.  They followed me.  I realised they were coming close to me.  I kneeled on the ground and I shot back.  They stop and I started running again.  And we ran until we entered a farm, a white man's farm.  When we arrived there Sdiga was stabbed by the comrades and he had been stitched on his stomach.  As we were running and then I shot the last one.  The police in Davel has already noticed this and they were running on the other side of the road trying to stop us at the front.  I said to them stomach down.  They lay on the ground on their stomachs and then we hid in the grass.  They came to the grass because they saw us and then they found us.  They took us.  They didn't arrest us or handcuff us.  They took us and Felani asked me, "What are you exactly doing.  You could have been shot because we didn't know it was you".  But they said, "No, you don't have to worry because nothing will happen".  At the time we were at the police station ... (intervention)