MR STANDER
Samuel Mkwena.  This is item 14 on the list which I have handed to you.  You will also see that I've marked in pro-amica because this is in fact how I'm appearing for him.  Mr Chairman, I'll now move to item 13 and this is the item in which amnesty is applied for on behalf of quite a number of people.
	Regarding Mr White Mohapi, can you tell us at all how many times he'd been arrested?