TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Sorry, I did not hear the question well. I'll repeat the question.  It relates to this torch, and whether you were ever able to use it as some kind of evidence as to who it belonged to?   ---   Yes, I found this torch on the day my children had been assaulted.  They said the police had left it behind.  We took it as evidence at that time when we were making the court interdict.