MR STANDER
Mr Chairman, the impression that I got was that they truly want to contribute to these hearings.  It might be just a transport problem, they come here together.
	I can't give you any information on that.  Mr Oliphant was here early this morning, he has already been cross-examined.  I have not had an opportunity to discuss the matter with him and find out what the problem was.  I couldn't find him outside when I was looking for him.