MR HATTINGH
Mr Chairman, yes, if one only has regard to the second statement of which the status is in doubt, that is true, but if one has regard to the legally competent application, the original application, the form that was filled in which is in fact dealt with before this Committee, then we have that is the application.  Whether the application or the hearing is premature I cannot say.  Whether the documentation is not complete I cannot say, but what I say, the application before this Committee is in fact for six murders.  So, when we deal with an application as set out in section nineteen (19) of the Act, we're dealing with the application, the proper application.