MR JACK DEMONSTRATES
Look, I have always been open to negotiations, genuine negotiations on any matter, and I have, for that, let me just tell you.  Nieuwoudt will remind, can also bear this. I don't know whether you are aware that I was the first person to lead a delegation of extra-parliamentary comrades to meet with National Party people, in this country, and that you don't.  So I have always been open for negotiations. The idea of sitting down with the riot police, who were shooting our people, I was the first person to organise, but I never give in on the principles that we elevate in.  It was that or nothing.  But I have always been ready to negotiate with anybody. And I have said it from the first day.