ANDRIES MATANZIMA NOSENGA
I don't know, Sir.  I did say that Darkie Chonco is the one who brought the firearms along.  There are instances where I was asked as to who commanded me to go and shoot at Sebokeng, I did say that it was Vanana Zulu.  Darkie was not present at Sebokeng, he did not instruct me to go and kill people there.