MR RICHARD
When it comes to argument as to the value and relevance of the various reports, including the evidence referred to by Mr Dehal yesterday at the Armed Forces hearing, to have the chronology is correct is of importance in the argument, but I have the information that I need.  So, my next point related to the Edendale Hospital escape.  I don't think we understood each other clearly yesterday.  The situation that we find ourselves in there can be summed up this way:  There's a conflict between the factual versions put up by you and by Mr Visagie.  Now I outlined Mr Visagie's version yesterday.  Now, Mr Visagie's attitude is simple.  He wanted me to make sure that his version was put into the record of these proceedings, this Hearing and to see whether we could resolve the conflict between your version and his version.  My question there is:  If Mr Visagie's attitude to amnesty is as outlined, would your opinions of his version of the facts change?