GIDEON JOHANNES NIEWOUDT
Afterwards, Mr Biko got up, I removed his handcuffs on the instruction of Siebert and Major Snyman arrived there and the interrogation then took place conducted by Mr Siebert.
	My observation at that stage was that Mr Biko was arrogant, aggressive and he didn't answer the questions at all, these were the questions put to him by Siebert.
	And on my own observation I can say that the questions put to him, were in my view, not relevant.  He immediately realised, Mr Biko immediately realised from the type of questions put to him, that Captain Siebert had absolutely no information about him.
	My office was next to this interrogation room, and in the door, I saw Warrant Officer Beneke taking up position.  Siebert then confronted him at some point with this pamphlet, this is the pamphlet in Annexure 7.  Biko once again got down, sat down on the chair.