MR COETZER
Chairperson and Honourable Members of the Committee, this is the same as in case number one with regard to the first applicant, that we will abide by the same position.  In other words, if he was involved in any deeds, there is forgiveness and no feelings of malice.  The Myburgs have come here today with a clear state of mind, they are not here out of vengeance, but they are here in the name of reconciliation.  As it pleases you.