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So you do have a basis for opposing the application, why don't you proceed then on those basis? Obviously we have to listen to evidence in a structured fashion and that is why we want to know in respect of which evidence, in respect of which incidents are you saying there hasn't been a full disclosure from Mr Hlongwane.
	We have to listen to your evidence in a structured fashion, it has to do with assisting us at the end of the day.  We have to evaluate that evidence and you as Counsel, we would appreciate it you could also just go to a little extent in trying to assist us in getting evidence in a much more structured fashion.