MR VISSER
No, no, we'll get to that.  We'll get to that.  You see, Mr Maharaj, as I understand your evidence, and again I haven't read through this document, but I'm bound to do so tonight, your point is that based on the evidence of Gen Steyn, that a Port Natal number would have been given with a prefix PN to an informer, you make a point thereof that Charles Ndaba could not have been an informer in the minds of the Security Branch of Port Natal because he was never given a PN number, do I understand you correctly?