TESTIMONY_GIVER:
 Yes there are, so much so that some of the evidence can be obtained from the police station where they kept [indistinct] because you would find that once he went into this mental state, you wouldn't know what had happened, he would sort of just black out and people would have to take this weapon from him and the police would have to come to the house and stop him.  It's right what he says that he was really affected because he likes to carry this weapon and he loses his temper easily.