MR DLAMINI
Before we went to Injubakazi there was a boy by the name of Mkupuleni who worked at CR Swart in Durban, at the Murder and Robbery Unit.  The SAP used to go the Injubakazi area, and this Mkupuleni used to work in that unit.  He is an IFP member because he was once attacked at Injubakazi and came to stay at Woody Glen.  Kay then connected me to this Mkupuleni before we went to attack the Injubakazi area.  At one occasion Mkupuleni took his men and they went to check what the situation was like at Injubakazi, and he came back and reported to me that there was a large presence of the police in the area - we should not go there.
	After a few days I told him that he should make means that I should be able to go there because Mudla Induna had instructed me to go there.  Thereafter myself and Kay, in his red Corolla, went to Sakonja.   When we arrived there we found other people waiting for us, and their weapons were also there.  I took AK47's, R4's, R1's and these men looked trustworthy, and they wanted - they were rearing to go to Injubakazi.  They were afraid of me, I told them to take the guns.  I gave them the guns in fact.