MR WILLS
Can you tell us about that incident, the attack on the Thembisa scholars?  Sorry, just before you do that.  Mr Chairperson, members of the Committee, I just thought that I'd add that this attack on Bhobholina's mother occurred on the thirtieth (30th) of the seventh (7th) 1991, and that is gleaned from the indictment in this matter.  Okay.