MS MTANGA
Mr Cele, Mr Gumede is going to testify that he was never an IFP member and in fact - can I go on?  And in fact in his knowledge the violence that was going on in Mashawase was a faction fight that was going on and that your group, the group of people who left for Umgababa were not ANC members, they were assisted by ANC coming from Umgababa and that's how they became affiliated to the ANC meaning prior to going to Umgababa they were not ANC.  What is your comment on this?