TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  I am sorry, I have got flu.  We grew up in Chesterville in Umkumbane.  That's where we stayed with my family.  But unfortunately or fortunately I never grew up in Umkumbane.  I was staying in the rural areas with my grandparents, who later died.  I had just finished my first year, and I grew up in an orphanage.  I went to school at the orphanage, and later on I came back to stay in Chesterville.  That is where I had got my uncle, because my father had been deceased at that time, and my mother had also been deceased.  That is where we got involved with my husband, who at that time was active, and also very close to Chief Luthuli from Groutville.  They were freedom fighters both of them.  They were very active in fighting for human rights.  At the time my uncle was not literate.  He always used to encourage me to read newspapers, and he encouraged me to read for him and translate or interpret, and he would later on tell me what was meant in those newspapers.  He made me somehow politically aware by reading newspapers.  And at that time I realised that we were an oppressed nation and I decided that I was going to be a community helper because I was against oppression and I was against harassment.