CHAIRPERSON
That's correct.  Then I'd like you to find out the following, if you could write that down.  The date when the first statement came into the office, when it was submitted and from which office.  The second statement when that came in and from which office.  Whether the first statement was signed or not at that time and whether it is at all signed at this stage.  The second statement the same.  And I would like you and your colleague to make an assessment of the two documents as to whether in terms of incidents these are any different.  Not the facts pertaining to a particular incident, but separate incidents.  And if there is a difference on incidents, find out from the office what the position and status is of that other statement in respect of applications, how far we've gone etcetera.  Lastly, when the second statement arrived.  Whether it just came alone, whether there was some covering letter and if so, if they could fax that letter to us or some kind of communication, be it verbal or writing.  If it was verbal, I'm sure someone would have made a note of it.  How long do you think you would need for this?