MR VISSER
Oh, I am sorry, what am I talking about, you are absolutely right, Mr Chairman, sorry.  I am terribly sorry.  He was, let us just stay with this for the moment, he was attacked, as the Chairman correctly points out, because you discovered that he or you suspected, strongly suspected, that he was an informer?  Yes.  Now, is it true that you were, in fact, together with others arrested and charged with the assault or the attack on Mr Ngo?  Would that be correct?