THAMBISO ZAKWE
Yes, that is what I am saying.  I would like to explain further.  The situation had been going on for quite some time, because the deceased started this mid 1992.  The worst incident was when he killed the Zwane family and the mother in that family was working hand in hand with the comrade.
	She was also a member of the ANC Women's League and there was a suspicion that she was selling out some comrades to the police.  That went on and on.  In 1993, he killed a girl who was 14 years old, and when he was questioned about this, he said he was testing the firearm.
	Besides that, he was involved in many things and the ANC leadership was silent about these things, but we were aware of the things that he was doing.  I tried at some stage to approach him and discuss with him about the other activities that he was involved in.
	Among other things, the last incident where he killed this girl, I told him that if he was actually testing a firearm, he wouldn't do that in the presence of the people.  We had a quarrel and he promised me that I will not survive and see up to the end of 1993.  It looked like I was the only person who was able to reprimand him about his activities.
	He showed me, he said I was a person who was talking too much, and he told me that I wouldn't live to the end of 1993.  That means that the leadership of the ANC was silent about his activities.
	It is not that all of the people were afraid of him, but they were scared of him, and they wouldn't even mention his name.