LEON WILLIAM JOHN FLORES
Chairperson yes, as I have stated it here - as we have heard previously, the vehicle moved past and did not stop at the place where it was supposed to stop and as I recall, Col de Kock, myself and Mr Vermeulen and Mr Nortje were the first ones who arrived at the vehicle.  We were also the first persons who started shooting at that stage.  I don't know who carried the light because the Eastern Transvaal people arrived there after we did.  Yes, I did hear a shot fired from that side of the vehicle.
	I mention here that it came from the vehicle.  I am not an expert in arms, it may be so that Col de Kock had fired first, it may have been that these were his shots.  When I ran to the vehicle I heard shots fired and I shot afterwards.  I cannot say whether, after I had heard Col de Kock's evidence, that it did come from the vehicle.  That is correct so.