ABRAM VAN ZYL
Chairperson, the Prosecutor in that matter was Adv Anton Akkerman and Adv Akkerman confirmed to me that the judge would grant me that indemnity and I am in contact with their office because I was identified as a witness in the Dr Wouter Basson matter where the same Section 204 came up and I discussed it with Adv Pretorius who discussed this with Mr Bulalani Ncguka's office.  You can accept from me that I received 204 indemnity.  After my evidence in the Ferdi Barnard case, I don't have any documents but because one does not get any documents that confirms something like that.