MR MALAN
Sorry for interrupting on this question.  His evidence was that he cannot recall the date, he thinks it was 1990 or maybe even 1991 when they left.  He said he thinks it was after he had been shot when he was committed to hospital, so that was his estimate of the time when they left.  He did not say that they had left in 88, 89, that was your evidence in your question.  But I think the essence of the question is the return, let's not be too finicky about the date, let's get the flow of things.