MUTHEIWANA GABRIEL RAMUSHWANA
Okay, the information I am not in a position to divulge that except the then investigation officer, but he is not here, but Director Ramaligela is in the position to explain as to how, where, from whom did they get this information and so forth.  I was not physically involved.  This is a, what I see here is a report that was given to me from Ramaligela.