MOKOTEDI MPSHE
Mr Chairman the next applicant is Mr Moikabi.
Mr Chairman and members of the Committee before I request that the applicant takes an oath, I want to inform the Committee as follows pertaining to this applicant.  That the applicant was enroled last year in the Kroonstad hearings whereat he formally appeared and he was represented by Mr Oupa Matsepe, together with the other applicants.  And at that hearing his application, I don't know which word to use, either was removed from the roll or withdrawn, but it did happen in Kroonstad.  Mr Chairman as I went through the application, the application form itself, and the statement made by the applicant, the applicant is denying involvement in this whole thing.  But with that background I did canvass this point with him and the fact that it was withdrawn first in Kroonstad and in this application again it is a denial.  I've made him aware of the provisions of the enabling Act in the presence of Mr Matsepe who is present here today, and I have asked him to remain in attendance to confirm that this is what transpired between me and the applicant, and if he confirms or if the Committee doesn't deem it necessary for him to confirm I would like to leave this in the hands of the Committee because I tried to explain to the applicant the implications hereof.  Thank you.