MR LAX
Just one last question, you had been asked this question before.  It relates to, you spoke about disarming people who stepped out of line, and you said that in the main, that was the main form of discipline that you applied. 	What I am really interested in is what other forms of discipline as far as you are aware, if you are not aware of them, then that is fine, they may have happened beyond your ken, so to speak, but if there are other forms of discipline that you are aware of, we are just interested to know how was that applied, besides disarming people?