KWANELE ARTHUR MFENE
On the 7th of September a lot of people came and he killed a lot of people.  The fact that there was an election and he was going to lose his position, Brig Gqozo was there together with his ADM, there would be few people who would be in the region of Ciskei as compared to people from Cape Town, Johannesburg who would come to remove him in his position, so as the police, we realised that he was - we had to remove him so he left his position.  That was our aim.