MR DU PLESSIS
I am saying he is not sticking to the facts of the case, because let him then tell you where on the record it is.  I can tell you where I have found a reference to this whole period of time, I have read through it and I don't think it is going to be of much assistance to you, but it is in the latest record Mr Chairman, at page 280 say from 282 onwards, where this period of time is dealt with.
	Sorry, is it 260, I've just lost the place Mr Chairman, Mr Justice Ngoepe in fact started the questioning during cross-examining by my learned friend Mr Du Plessis, and it dealt with the period of July 1988 onwards.  So that is the only reference that I can find on the record, with respect Mr Chairman.
	I've gone through on the computer, I couldn't find any other record.