MR VISSER
That is the only point about the whole affair Mr Chairman, nothing else turns on that.
	Just one more thing, I am sorry, I will just have to wait for you to get back to your chair.  Are you ready Mr Makhubalo?  Let's try to finish before eleven o'clock please.  On the left, on your left wrist, there is a protrusion or a bulge, is that correct?