ADV DU PLESSIS
Thank you Mr Chairman.  Mr Chairman, we have had a discussion with Dr 
Pretorius of the Attorney General's office pertaining to the issue of Captain Van Jaarsveld and the question 
if we can call him as a witness.
	Now I want to place on record that the applicant's request was that Captain Van Jaarsveld should 
be called to give evidence to this Committee in respect of the State Security Council, the structure of the 
State Security Council, how the State Security Council operated, especially in the middle 1980's, the way in 
which orders were given and something that is very important for the applicants, pertaining to their 
applications and that is evidence about the Government of the time of their counter-revolutionary strategy 
that was developed during the early 1980's and which was put into practice in the middle 1980's.
	As you will recall Mr Chairman, we have given evidence in a lot of instances where the applicants 
testified that they had to take pro-active action against activists and terrorists, that they were given orders to 
eliminate terrorists and activists and, that this was part of the Government's counter-revolutionary strategy.
	Captain Van Jaarsveld was involved in the State Security system.  He was involved with the 
development of the counter-revolutionary strategy of the Government of the time; the drawing of a specific 
document setting out the whole strategy which we have not been able to get hold of. He was also involved 
with the implementation of the counter- revolutionary strategy.	He has intricate knowledge thereof, and 
furthermore he was also present when Brigadier Victor 
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