MR PHOSA
Perhaps, to put it simpler in a shell, initially the intention was not to engage counsel at all in this matter but the family on learning that the other side had counsel, in their own interest M'Lord, sorry, Mr Chairman, felt that there is no way that they could just themselves with the attorney - not to say the attorney didn't feel adequate but it's the feeling of the family.
	So, at the last moment they made these efforts and I cannot really force them, it is part of our system that people think in terms of advocates and attorneys in different positions which is of course far from reality.  That is the position.