TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  There's another one that I saw at Verulam who was born at the same place where we were staying, and when I asked him he laughed at me.  And at the time when he laughed at me I wasn't alone, and when we got home we discussed this matter that we had seen one who was staying at Amawoti, and who said he knew my son, and had he seen him he would have told me.  And certain males that I was staying with in Durban went to fetch him from Verulam, and he explained, and he had a certain piece of paper from which he was reading as he was explaining.   Was he explaining to you?   ---   Yes, he was explaining, and these youths were there.  He was telling us as to how my son died.