GARY JOHN KRUSER
Mr Chairman, it's very difficult for me, I can only recollect what I understand to happen on that day.  We are dealing with seconds we're dealing with lots of firearms around us, we're dealing with a very hostile crowd surging forward, it's very difficult for me to accede to something I don't know, I can only recall what I saw on that day and at the same time I can accept the ballistic evidence put before me.  I can't change - that's what I saw on that day, it might not be correct, I'm human, but that's what I saw on that day and that's my understanding of what happened on that day.