JEFFREY THAMSANQA RADEBE
My personal involvement was in the initial setting up of these Self Defence Units, particularly in the arming of the Self Defence Unit.  I was involved in the initial stages of procuring these weapons which were delivered to Southern Natal.
	Just to describe what exactly happened, these weapons used to come to Southern Natal with cars, we had three vehicles that were used for the distribution of these weapons.
	It was a bakkie, it was a Rover and a VW kombi.  These cars had secret compartments where these weapons were hidden.  What happened is that I got duplicate keys of these cars and plans were made that when a car for example is going to be delivered maybe five o'clock in the afternoon, and then later on, that car would be taken, off load those weapons and then returned later, so there was no direct contact between the person who brought those cars and those weapons and the person who would fetch the vehicle.
	That was my initial particular role of getting the keys, duplicate keys and giving them to the person who are instructed to be involved in the operational aspects of the Self Defence Units in Southern Natal.