CHAIRPERSON
Mr Tloubatla I think you went into the background in details yesterday, you even handed up some documents.  What you could ask your client though, perhaps you could ask him whether, apart from what the previous applicant has said with regard to the background, whether there's anything more or anything new that he wants to add onto that one.  Maybe he's got his own personal perspectives which may come on to a new dimension of the conflicts.  But really it doesn't help a lot for him to repeat the same thing what the (indistinct) said.