MR DREYER
I wasn't very sure, I just wanted clarity on that.   I will put it to you, in conclusion, that no order was given to Mr Klopper, and as far as you believe that there was such an order, I believe that your action afterwards, or followed on that order, but I will put it clearer to you, the only reason why you believed you had an order or instruction was that because you believed that Klopper received such an instruction from Oelofse, is that correct?