CHAIRPERSON
Just on this photograph, Mr McBride, the photo shows, it's not very distinct, but it shows Sgt van der Merwe with his clothes ablaze, apparently staggering out of the substation.  You would agree that photograph must have been taken, the photographer must have been on the scene or passing it just by coincident, or would there be any reason - that's why I ask the question, was there restaurants around there or places where people would be at that time of night, with their camera, to catch a photo like that, or would it just be pure coincidence?