MR RICHARD
The essence of what I am trying to establish, and I will explain it, from what you've said earlier this morning, you did assist Mr McBride and Mr Webster at various points in time, to do various things and I will ask you what you did later, while in Botswana.  However, you did nothing to assist or help them once they left Botswana and that's the proposition that I'm asking you to confirm.  The next question would be ...(intervention)