MS LUBOWSKI
Ahh! I will - I never lie, that's for sure, I don't waste my time with lies. I discussed this many a times including Justice [indistinct] - somebody shot me. Justice Minister Dullah Omar, I asked him the same question, and the other day on the radio I heard that all those people who are mentioned here, will never apply for amnesty.
 So I asked Justice Minister Dullah Omar will you give people amnesty who were charged with murder, he told me straight off never.