CHAIRPERSON
I want to continue, because I don't want to interrupt you in the manner in which you are rendering testimony.  The people who were there are the ones whose names you have given us, it was yourself, Moses, Basil, Sepo Nduli and Mfanafuti as well as Michael Khumalo, these are the people who were present when you captured this person and when you took the firearm and gave it to Mfanafuti?