CHAIRPERSON
Can I just come back to the shebeen patrons.  It appears that Mr Noah Mxobogazi has been the primary source of these orders that your client was executing.  Now in respect of that incident, I understand that Mr Mxobogazi's position was that "Well if you don't find Shongwe, kill his mother, then he must come to the funeral, then you kill him".  I understood that to have been the sum total of Mr Mxobogazi's order under those circumstances.  Now do I misunderstand that, or what is the position ...(intervention)