MR WEBSTER
I'm not interested in that and I don't want us to talk about what went through Lembede's mind.  He's dead, let's leave him alone.  You have said you heard firing coming out from Botha and you have said Botha was the first to start firing.  I repeat it, you said the second was Lembede because you could see him firing.  You said the third was yourself and the fourth was the Reaction Unit.  Do you remember saying that?