ELIZABETH NOTHEMBILE HASHE
He started to be a member of the P, when somebody came from overseas, I can name this person, Mr Lwana, I met him and told him that Mr Lwana informed him that there is a problem with the struggle, so he should stand up again and get involved, and he should try so that this should come in a very ...(indistinct) way because P was in a period of trouble during those days.  There were no members.  Instead it was pulling and pushing, but they had to find a way in which they would progress with the running.  I think people know this. My husband stood up, he was told that he had to be coopted so that he will bring back the children.  He did just that.
 There was a boycott, I think it was a bus boycott. This bus boycott never continued, it was never successful, it was in 1983.  He was right in.  There were people who got arrested because some of them were not really liable.  The way the bus strike was continuing, it was really up and down, not knowing whether to get in or not.  Leaflets were distributed, and he was arrested.
 Time went on, he was coopted, I don't know but he was coopted.  He worked with these children as much as he was working with them, they tried to organise themselves and 
EAST LONDON  HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE
9 HASHE
things went well between them, but in the middle something happened.  There was a misunderstanding between them and the councillors.  Fifteen families at Veeplaas, were sitting there, their books were stamped.  They were actually people who had been evicted from their houses., so they took themselves and squatted.  Now the police took these people, small children and infants, they were wrapped in plastic. They went to Rome and they were given a place at the Father's mission.  The people stayed there, the food was provided and they were three in number.  This food was brought to me so that I could cook for the children, these people would come and help me cook, using my garage.  As time went on they discovered they would have to eat at home,  and would leave after eating and they would eat and then leave.
 They decided to go to Labour to get their documents in order.  Things were right, these who were expelled from their duties were reincorporated and they got their place in Motherworld.  Now the thing that I'm trying to tell is that during those times when they were working, something just happened, children were shot by these councillors.  This is one important point, these councillors really shot the children.  The children were striking, they took this on themselves to try and show the people, to hear their feelings about this bad thing that has just happened.  They came to the conclusion of embarking on a stay-away.