MR RHEEDER
Honourable Chairperson, Mr Dyasi indicated that he does not believe Mr Luff and what he testified.  There is a specific point where we've got further, or there is clear evidence that supports Mr Luff on that one point, the point that I am trying to make is that Mr Dyasi does not believe that point, he will not believe Mr Luff at all.  It is a question of trying to elicit the response in the sense that if he believes him, how can I put it, he - if he does not believe that point, if he does not in himself believe that as the truth, if he believes that his son was shot at close range, he will not believe anything else that Mr Luff says and his belief as to the truth, cannot then be taken into account, because his belief in what he believes is the truth, does not correspond with expert witnesses and expert testimony.