MR VISSER
Now Chairperson, going on from page 18, what we also did was to give a very brief summary in regard to specific topics.  At page 18 you will find the role of the neighbouring States, and we deal at page 18 with Botswana, which will not be relevant to you here.  We deal at page 20 with Swaziland, which will be relevant in these proceedings, Chairperson.  You will of course notice that it's very, very brief indeed.  And then page 21 we deal with Lesotho.  And then at page 22, because it has come up from time to time, we deal with informers very briefly, and it will also again become relevant here.  This does not pretend to be a full argument or anything of the nature, it simply deals with the issues.
	Chairperson, what we had in mind was to go back now, after you kindly allowed the postponement, and in the time available for the rest of the day, if possible, to draw a similar chapter which we will add at the back of page 23 of Exhibit A, dealing with the conflict and the nature of the violence in Natal.  Hopefully we will be able to draft a sensible document with which no fault can be found to the extent that we can then thereafter in each incident, when it is called, simply go on with the facts.  And if that pleases you, Mr Chairman, that is the reason why we have dealt with the matter in that sense.  
	Where the bundles that the TRC have forwarded to both yourselves and us find themselves now, we don't know, but what we will attempt to do with the co-operation of Ms Thabethe, the Evidence Leader, we're hoping that she will be able to render us assistance, is to print in each of the applicants for each of the applicants for whom we appear, a summary of his evidence, which he can place before you to save you from writing down things that they are saying.  There's an additional reason, Chairperson, that in some of the incidents the applicants were so vague at the time that they could not remember the particular facts of that incident and where they in fact said "I can't remember anything", but later at the amnesty application I will provide such facts and circumstances and evidence as I may be able at that stage to do.  
	So what we have done is we have amplified that and it's on paper.  We will print it out this afternoon, there are quite a large number as you can well imagine, and we will then reproduce those so that the proceedings may proceed smoothly the moment we get going, Chairperson, which is hopefully tomorrow morning at half past nine, as you indicated.