EUGENE ALEXANDER DE KOCK
No, Chairperson, it emanated from a later discussion with Mr Pienaar and Mr Deetlefs as I recall and as a Commander of C1 and Counter-Insurgency, I could independent decisions.  It was expected of one to take decisions and to assume leadership, that is why one was in that position.  And one would bear all the responsibilities associated with that position,
whether it be success or failure.