CHAIRPERSON
Yes, thank you very much.  There are times when we may have to work under pressure.  There are times we don't have all the documents in time.  That happens to us as well on the Committee.  Documents arrive sometimes in the middle of hearings and somehow we have to try and cope with the difficulties.  When genuine difficulties arise and time is required for counsel to prepare we certainly will do that, we'll take that into account.  Mr Visser, will you make a beginning please?