BONGANI FINCA
My questions are on page 1 of the testimony and on page 6, and I am grateful to Brigadier Gqozo that in his main submission he correctly identifies the political context within which the massacre happened as a context that we should also look into in this inquiry, and I want to agree that that is very correct.
 Before I raise the question Chairperson I just want to note that we have perhaps experienced a moment which has touched us.  I note that that moment has not come out of the submission made by Brigadier Gqozo, it came out of the question period, but I want to underline that the integrity of that moment, the integrity of the confession, the integrity of the apology will really be tested on how far Brigadier Gqozo is prepared to tell us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  Without that I think the apology, the confession, the tears will be hollow, and I am raising two questions in that context.  On page 1 of the submission Brigadier Gqozo on the last paragraph, third line refers to the philosophy behind the TBVC states.  
"These states were to all intents and purposes autonomous little countries where Black man was to rule Black man".
a question that has continued to puzzle us, as we struggle with the inquiry of this massacre Brigadier, is that your government had such a preponderance of seconded officers of questionable repute, of questionable backgrounds.  As Commissioner of your police you had a former founder of Vlakplaas General Viktor.  As head of your Military Intelligence you had a person who is said to have a CCB background, your Chris Nel.  As Chief of your Ciskei Defence Force you had an Ulshig(?) former of the Military Intelligence.  You had a Basie Oosthuizen, Anton Nieuwoudt. The list is endless.  My question is, perhaps if you could comment on how you managed to get into your military structures people of such background?  Were they carefully chosen by you?  What was the reason behind it?  Shouldn't we link the massacre that happened to the calibre of people that you have put around you?  What happened to the Ciskeians whom you so dearly loved, why were they not occupying these positions?