MR WAGENAAR
Mr Chairman indeed I have, the only hesitation I have at 
the moment is that I would have to hand in more than one of the pieces of work 
that I've prepared for it to make sense.  I must just inform the Committee with 
respect at this stage, that because we're not involved in the Pretoria incidents 
they have not been included in what we have prepared but subject to that 
qualification we gladly hand it to you Mr Chairman.  If you will give me a 
moment's time, Mr Chairman may we first hand in Exhibit P30, you don't have 
to concern yourself about marking the exhibits, we are keeping the exhibit list 
numbers up to date and we will hand that to you as well. So we might hand to 
you Exhibit P30 and I'll give you a short word of explanation on that so that 
you can understand, with respect, how the document is intended to work Mr 
Chairman.
	Mr Chairman looking at Exhibit 30 you will see that it consists of five 
pages, actually six but the last one is just in case a member of the Committee 
wishes to fill in any other information which I couldn't think about.  Mr 
Chairman the list approaches the matters of both Mr Motsamai and Mr Ngo on 
all the documentation that was placed before the Committee and it approaches 
the matter from the point of view of incidents.  Now I'm going to hand to you a 
further exhibit, P31 in a moment which approaches the matter from the point of 
view of persons indicated so that you have the best of both worlds we hope Mr 
Chairman to assist you in the summary of what we attempted to do.
	What we have attempted to do Mr Chairman is because Mr Motsamai 
has produced three documents, perhaps you know about them, if you don't, 
may I quickly inform you what they are.  The first is his application form, and 
then at the last hearing on the 14th of March a document was produced which 
was a hand-written document, the status of which we are not certain of Mr 
Chairman.  That was handed in as Exhibit P28.