MS PATEL
Okay.  Mr Mbane says that after he dropped the members, as he had agreed with you, at the points arranged with you, that he had gone over the bridge, towards Montana area, and had turned around, because he still had, besides himself, he had the driver and he had Chris Piet in the car with him, in the van, sorry, and that he came back and once he came back over the bridge, that is when he heard what he thought was an explosion and shooting.