MR STOFILE
Maybe for your benefit, since you say you're not there, Mrs Matoti's account is that when she was fetched ultimately she was so in a bad state, she has not eaten for four days, she has not eaten food for four days and she was complicated and she was almost passing out and the two officers - it's not you this time, who fetched her talked among themselves after she had even collapsed and fainted and you know, whilst she was taken down the stairs at Engangaliswe, then they talked amongst themselves and said look, let's go and take her to the hospital and say we do not know where we've picked her up, we picked her up from the location somewhere.  They decided that on the spot.  I'm just telling you because your comment is that you are not aware, I'm just mentioning it as a follow up, that she was so sick they said she was dying and they wanted to dump her at the hospital.