MR VISSER
... reply to Commissioner De Jager's query about the record straight away before we go on.  It is the query regards the motor car collision or accident in which Ngo was involved and whether it was Mr Venter's car as I understood the question.
	Could I refer you to Bundle A Mr Chairman, of the evidence.  Page, marked in pen, 70, typed written page 177.  It is approximately two thirds down the page, the lines are not marked Mr Chairman.  And it is during my cross-examination of Mr Ngo where you will see the following  words -
"Mr Visser - I will leave out some words, and I say well let me ask this question first of all.  Was there a time or were there times when Mr Venter lent you his car and you didn't return it, did that happen?
		Mr Ngo says, that is when I capsized with that car.   
		Mr Visser, so I take it your answer is yes, there were times when you failed to return the car to Mr Venter? 
		Mr Ngo, the time I didn't return the car, it was when I capsized with the car.
	I think that is perhaps what you were looking for Mr De Jager.