MS COLLETT
The fact of the matter is to this day they still haven't received that confirmation so why do they believe it?  Because they've heard it on the TV, they've heard it through the media, that's why they believe it.  The very way they'd heard it that evening.  Mr Chairman, I submit that there's sufficient evidence before this Committee to show that on that evening there was no political motive.  Yes, they were probably happy as was two thirds of Ciskei, I'm sure, that Brigadier Gqozo had stood down but the point of this meeting was, the point of this meeting was "where's our money and what's our position in the future" and they would ...(intervention)