MR J T MAZIBUKO
As you can see we are in 1997.  Today I can speak to a member of the council or a councillor or hug him, but during that time I could not do that because these people were not democratically elected and they were doing nothing for the community and these were the people who were chosen from the community, because they shared the same idealogies with the apartheid regime and what I can say is that these people were collaborators.  They did not want us to get the new South Africa that we are in today and quite a number of them are happy today because they are enjoying the benefits and the privileges of a new South Africa.  At that time we explained through staging boycotts and mass campaigns, but they never responded.  The vigilantes were also against our people and they conducted a reign of terror, they conducted a reign of terror in the community.