MS THABET
Just one.  You refer to farmers, Afrikaners joining the police force.  I am interested more in Mr De Ru, did you have any knowledge of Mr De Ru being part of that group of you know, farmers or Afrikaners, so in other words what is your knowledge in as far as Mr De  Ru is concerned - was he part of that group Afrikaner group even though he was a  policeman?