CHAIRPERSON
I am not asking that, Mr John Kakana.  What I am trying to find is a solution to this problem and I think we are going to find a solution if we open our hearts and say the truth.  I want to know that if, since there was this difference, did the police come between you, because the evidence we found here shows clearly that the police were not even-handed, they were favouring one side. I just want to hear your view about this matter.