MR PRINSLOO
With respect Mr Chair, it is not that long ago before that, that he had last been there when he did National Service.
	The other aspect is that he knew where the place was, he knew the place itself, and that a matter of reconnoitring couldn't have arisen from the facts which are on the table.  They went there to obtain firearms, and the third applicant went with him.
	This is a contradiction of their evidence.   When they left Secunda, the person who knew where to find the weapons, was left over to this applicant and the way in which the BWB functioned was in a secretive manner, that only the two in the cell would know what would happen, and this person then had to make use of two other people as assistants.  Two people who were not part of his cell, so the knowledge he had of where the firearms were, was only something known to him and not to anybody else.
	He took the lead, he carried it into effect and he was the person who had to go and obtain the firearms.  That was the instruction and the time was ripe.  That is uncontradicted.