MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, you've got the notes which I mentioned to you yesterday, I'm not going to repeat them.  The point as I understood my - as I intended by objection to be based upon, was that there was an incident in Fountains Street in 1993 as we understood the evidence and we simply said that's not part of the papers before you.  Now it's been related to 13 and I just want to make this one point Mr Chairman, there was nowhere in the pretrial, on the record or anywhere else in the world where we ever agreed that Clause 13 of Motsamai's application referred to anything else but the group of 19 people who were arrested in the Ladybrand area.
	There was never any agreement by us that that should mean so.  If you're telling us that on a proper interpretation, you're going to interpret it that way, we will deal with in argument.  But because we say can't possibly mean that otherwise Clause 13 would be tantamount to a general application for all assaults 
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