LERATO ABEL KHOTLE
That is what I said.  If I can explain that further, Mr Chairman.  Firstly, you must remember that we have been oppressed for many years, more than 300 years we have been oppressed.  When I was born, we were still oppressed.  What is happening, even the whole world knew about the situation in South Africa, more especially when it comes to the oppression of the African people.  So from their knowledge, I think they should have also understood that the situation was not conducive for them to come and visit here, because South Africa was at war, it was war against oppression.