MR SMIT
Let me give you a background.  Approximately, I'm not sure about the dates, but let's say the 19th of April we were called up, we went to Ventersdorp and we then went to Cliff Barnard's farm and our orders were to protect the AWB headquarters.  We didn't speak to anybody else in an open meeting where there were other people.  Some of us may have spoken to members while we were guarding the AWB headquarters, but personally I can't offer you any evidence.