MR MADASA
Yes.   Thank you, Mr Chair.   I accept, Mr Chair, that the concealment of that fact by Sonti, if he did, does pose a problem as to if he has invented everything, but I'm saying that should be seen against the allegations that were levelled against them, namely that they captured people from their homes and took them to the shacks to be killed and people were killed.   In his favour I could explain that by saying that if he did conceal that point, that he may have thought that it was sufficient to tell, to disclose the fact that in fact he did participate in capturing people from their homes and took them where it is alleged that they were taken.    In other words, he may have felt that he has answered the allegations which have been levelled against him.   Now as to whether he fully dealt with that when he was answering those allegations, I submit that he may be excused for thinking that by answering the allegations he was therefore making a full disclosure with that regard.   But nonetheless ...(intervention).