GEORGE BIZOS
Well, I'm sorry for that.  But we will put it right during the adjournment.
	Now you have been given a copy of Mr van Jaarsveld's statement insofar as it relates to Mr Goniwe. This appears on page 277 in the second volume of the documents prepared by Counsel for the Commission, Mr Chairman.  
	You recall that I asked you what discussions there were about the possibility of putting Mr Goniwe to death, and you said that there were such discussions but you could not remember when or where or precisely whether they were during 1984 or 1985.  Do you recall that?