MR LAX
No, listen it is clear from what he says, they did discuss other options.  They discussed for example stealing from the safe.  The trouble is that he won't tell us what these options were.  Please Mr Hlengwa, you've got to help us here.
	You have been asked a simple question, what options did you discuss?  It has taken 10 minutes to get out of you that one of the options that you did discuss, was stealing from the safe at work.  You must help us here otherwise we are going to be here forever.  Please.  It is a simple question, you discussed with Dlamini and Mdluli various ways of getting firearms, is that correct?