MAKI ZOKOZA
Thank you Mr Chairperson.  Firstly, I would like to greet you as we are here today, to the Commission.  I would like to start in 1990 and tell you about the story, the Bhele story, in Cikizini.  On the day when Brigadier Gqozo said that he did not want the chiefs and the headmen.  As the people from the Bhele we said that we wanted people to be elected as Chairpersons.  We then elected these people.  We elected Mr Tamsane Selman.  I was the Treasurer, at the time, of SANCO which was the Resident's Association there.
 One particular day it was felt that in 1992 the Chairperson has to be changed, Mr Selman, a new executive committee was elected.  I was then elected as the Chairperson.  I think it was on the 13th of June, if I am not mistaken.  While we were in a meeting, as the Committee, trying to discuss what we are going to do as the newly elected people, the police came from Tamacha.  They asked us why are we there.  We then told them that we are the executive committee of the Resident's Association.  One police said to me, Mr Zokoza, this organisation was banned.  He said that the organisation I am leading was banned.  I asked him where.  He said in Bisho in July.  He did not give me an exact date.  I said that I did not know what you are talking about, it is the first time I heard about this.