PITSO JOSEPH HLASA
May I speak Sotho?  In 1986 the violence between AZAPO and UDF in fact spread to Soweto.  I would say this violence started in the Eastern Cape in 1985 or 1984, I'm not sure, when most of our members were killed by the ...[indistinct] camp.
	Some of them were accused of the murder of the CRADOCK 4, then it spread until it reached Transvaal.   In my area in particular it was not rife.  So what has happened, in the area like Dlamini in Soweto and Zola and Mundene, Naledi, those were the areas which were affected mainly.  As members of the organisation we tried by all means possible that we should have various camps so that we should be able to defend ourselves.