ADV BOSMAN
Thank you, Chairperson.
	Mr Vorster, the previous applicant, Mr Both, gave evidence to a question that he had drawn the inference that Cele didn't want to co-operate because his body language indicated this because he appeared to be hesitant.  How do you reconcile this with your evidence?  You say that Cele indicated his non-willingness with words.  I don't understand that apparent contradiction.