DONALD SPENCER GOLD
I don't - no, that I didn't say, that I did not say.  If I think back now, what I told you before about the build-up since I was a child and the propaganda that we were all subjected to and the kind of experience that I had in Rhodesia, the kind of experience I had in South West Africa, this was the build-up to that thing.  I can't say - although personally I was shocked and I found it abhorrent, I have agonised for 20 years to try and make some sense out of it.  I've agonised for 20 years to try and find some justification.