JUDGE WILSON
As I've indicated, I would certainly, speaking for myself, welcome argument from the applicants dealing with this point as to whether even where an act falls within a category of being the type of act that can be done for political purposes, must one consider whether this particular act was done for those or for some other purposes. And the further problem which arises, problem is perhaps the wrong word, is whether this is a matter where they have personally benefited, whether they acted for personal gain, which is very much interlocked with the first point I put that even where it is an act which on the face of it falls within the act for a political purpose, must one not consider the motives of the people who committed the act in question and speaking for myself I think for you, we would welcome argument on that point.  And as I understand it now Counsel wish to reserve the question of argument and I hope that we can perhaps have argument on the factual aspects of the application by the end of this month.  I am acutely aware of the fact that all the major political parties are making further representations to the TRC at the present time and there may well be matters raised in those representations which Counsel would like to have an opportunity to study and they may not be able to do that by the end of this month, so if they wish to file further argument on the legal and political interpretations they are at liberty to do so, but I think if we could get rid of the factual aspects by the end of this month, it would assist all of us while we still have some recollection of them.