CHAIRPERSON
No, you said - I just want to get this matter cleared up, you said that in August 1991 you decided to attend a public meeting of the State President, which was to be held in Ventersdorp.  Now we have also heard earlier that that meeting was then said to be a meeting just for members of the National Party etc.  Now this question of whether it was a public meeting or a closed meeting for a limited class of persons, namely members of the party, you have said it was a public meeting, why do you say it was a public meeting, was it advertised as such?  This is all I just want to know at this stage.