MR TERRE'BLANCHE COMMITTEE
Mr Chairman, during 1982, the AWB got hold of some weapons.  In court it was said at the time, that the weapons, the ammunition of which I had never seen the identity, but as was described in court it was parts of AK47s and would I suppose one or two pistols.  These weapons, members of the AWB got it from a member of the,  Mr Kees Moos, an erstwhile member of the AWB.  I became aware of that when later it was shown at a house in Delmas and the allegation was made that the ammunition was up in a cupboard and parts of weapons were stored in trunks.  	The idea with regard to the getting hold of the weapons was to keep those should the erstwhile government capitulate in the same way that the white colonial governments, in a very short time span, handed over their power to a majority government and the fear was voiced by members of the AWB that the same fate could be that of the whites in South Africa with a very fast taking over of power resulting in chaos, that as is the case of the Belgian Congo, as was the case with the Belgian Congo and other places, murder would take place and people would lose their lives.
	I was confronted by this situation and even though I - and that was also said in the Supreme Court and it could not be refuted, to say that I should get rid of these things, it was a trap because the man who I obtained it from had, it was a Dutch person, Mr Moos, who also fled from the country.  I received it from him, because I didn't trust him.
	Be that as it may, the weapons were taken to my brother's farm and I became aware of it when it arrived there.  We then buried the weapons with the purpose that should we need to one day protect ourselves, our property, homes, as in the case with the Portuguese in the Congo and to have it at hand if there was no order in which to protect ourselves.
	That was also our defence in the Supreme Court and the verdict of the judge was that we would in any case not be allowed to possess those weapons even though the intention would be to use it in order to protect ourselves.  We therefore had the weapons in our possession illegally.  We had those weapons in our possession. 
	The judge did say in his verdict that we, to a great extent, were the victims of circumstances.  I reconciled myself with the idea at the time that under those circumstances it would be well and right that the weapons should not be given, handed over to the police but for political reasons we were to keep them should the history repeat itself and we are being confronted and being put in chaos and evolution by other forces.
	I humbly submit that I do qualify for amnesty for the possession of these weapons.  It was the organisation, the AWB, who accepted responsibility for those weapons.  I, as leader of the AWB, finally accepted responsibility.  We kept it there and it had to stay there until a situation would arise that we would perhaps need it in a situation of chaos and warfare.  That is my side of the story, Sir.