CHAIRPERSON
I don't think I could answer that question.  I wouldn't understand it.  What would you like him to say?  I mean, I shot them so that there would be one vote less in the election or what?  I mean, if you've got a situation that was, what he said from his evidence, whether it's disputed or not I don't know, but there was a highly volatile situation brought about by the political differences of the various communities of that, of Zevenfontein.  They were being attacked, that's his version, and he shot in defence of it because he was IFP they were ANC.  So when he pulled the trigger, I can't understand how anyone can answer well what was the political objective to be obtained.  Or attained.  There wasn't anything obviously on the evidence to be attained by the shooting other than defending himself.  On his version.