CHAIRPERSON
I'm just thinking that comes through my head now, I'd just like you to deal with it.  We've been dealing with, as you know, thousands, hundreds of applications and many of them have concerned - I'm just using this as an example of let's say the APLA policies particularly during 1993, the year of the Great Storm, where any white person was regarded as an acceptable target and people were in fact killed who weren't involved in politics, just ordinary people but that killing by their operatives was entirely in line with the policy of their organisation and they have been granted amnesty, haven't been confronted with an argument that you've been putting up now but what do you say, they're all wrong?