SALMON JOHANNES GERHARDUS DU PREEZ
Chairperson, 17/18 years I was - for the 17/18 years I was in the Security Branch I launched thousands of operations where persons were arrested in vehicles and it is something that one does impromptu and on the scene you will observe and at the scene we will say which person will open which door.  I was involved in thousands of such matters and that is why I do not have a specific recollection of the incident.