ABRAM VAN ZYL
Mr Chairperson, the day when I went to retire, when I quit from the CCB, Mr Burger was naturally upset, and I think it was said in that light.
	We did not have a bad relationship, but I think it was said at the spur of the moment, and I do not believe there was anything meant by that.  I think Mr Burger is the best person to answer that question.