GARY JOHN KRUSER
That's correct but I would like to say that I think the evidence you're reading from, I think it's important that - it's a pity we can't hear the evidence on tape to show - I think the contempt with which I was treated with by that Judge - that's my personal opinion.
	Secondly, I've gone through that process and I even told the Judge on the next morning - if you look for it in my evidence - that I don't completely agree to him when I went there one night - I did not completely agree - I just want to explain the issue of the register itself.  When I did the statement with my lawyers, which I tried to explain to the Judge, I then stated that the names were not recorded in the firearm register.  That was the essence of my statement.  When the books were brought to court it was recorded on another page in the firearm register but not under the normal circumstances which we normally record it because it was a rush morning, I took a page and wrote it.  When I was with my lawyers doing a statement, my recollection at that stage was it was not in the firearm register but I knew I wrote it down somewhere.  The facts when the book was brought, it was in the firearm register but not the normal procedure which we used and that was the debate with me and the Judge at that stage.  After lot's of pressure from the Judge I conceded and I think if that - even if the Committee feels that my interpretation when I was with my lawyers and what happened when the book was brought is wrong or a lie then I concede but I was honestly of the opinion when I made this statement when I sat with my lawyers that I recorded it in a book or on a page at some stage because of the rush of the morning.  It was not written in the normal fashion which we do guns as normal, you could see in the book how we normally would issue guns, there were just names and the gun number, no signatures, all those things that was the rush of the morning and when I did the statement itself my recollection at that stage was, you know sometime and I was busy with other things in my new job in government. We used to come to the lawyers in the evening, we never had the books with us, I recollected that I wrote it down somewhere.  I knew we never followed the proper procedures we normally had to follow and that was my recollection.  The Judge refused to even give me a chance, I mean to explain some of the things, I was just shouted down, but what I'm saying is I concede that is the truth, I wrote it in the firearm register, not in the normal fashion, in some other page, not with all the necessary requirements which is required for me when I hand out guns and that is the facts of the matter.
	The other point is - I deliberately withheld names from the police and attorney and there were very good reasons for that.  I was not prepared to expose my comrades and my colleagues to the mercy of assassination and that's a decision I had to make.  I decided and we decided as a collective, that at some stage in this process when we come to court that we will tell what we know happened and I told the Judge that.  I think my reason under the circumstances of the times when I know other colleagues and comrades of mine were killed in Natal when they testified as witnesses, I was not prepared to expose my colleagues to that.