MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, perhaps we must refer to one incident.  Perhaps my learned friend has not referred to it because it wasn't in similar vein as the present applications, but that is the so-called Quarry Road incident in 1986.
	This witness also applies for amnesty in that regard Mr Chairman, that was a shootout.  I believe that is the reason why my learned friend is not referring, just for the sake of clarity.