CHAIRPERSON
He does say in paragraph 3 where he was and when he signed it.  That's fine.  I'm not talking about where he signed it, or where he signed it, the application form is lost, and that's what we're trying to establish.  What happened to it.  Because we must also investigate whether this application was in fact made.  He planned, he says, I filled it in.  That's not the end of the matter.  Is there any explanation or