CHAIRPERSON
But I'm not even addressing the issue of whether Mr Mabusa gave you an order or commanded you to execute the ladies in question.  I haven't come to that stage yet.  I am merely trying to establish whether Mr Mkhwanazi shared this information with you, and if he did, why did it not say in your evidence that you first became aware of the activities of the late Ndumo and the person you assaulted, Ms Mokoena, when Mr Mkhwanazi advised the activities to your unit.  Why did you not say that?