MR STRYDOM
It makes a difference because if there's an outright rejection and the applicant has run out of time that would mean that there would be no application but a return means that there has been an application but the fact of the matter is also in our instance, these applications weren't returned so the original applications were kept and what was asked is just further particulars and completion on that applications already in the possession of the TRC and in regard of which applications numbers were allocated already.  In fact, if I can refer to the letter next to my heads of argument, there was already - there must have been talk about a hearing already as early as the 15th July 1997 because there was already at that stage talk about that hearing should take place on the 11th August 1997 before the cut off date so the Committee at that stage would have accepted those applications albeit not complete applications, but those applications were in fact accepted at that stage and then subsequent to that there was some questions asked in terms of Section 19 (i).