GEN STEYN
No, I can't say that I agree with that.  I restate that I feel that in the circumstances which reigned at the time our actions, our conduct was excessive.  That's my view, that was my view at that time.  I'm just looking for the right word.  We probably used more violence than necessary and that could give rise to a charge of murder or another serious offence so I felt that we had perhaps overstepped the mark.