CHAIRPERSON
Well perhaps he can be requested to attend, without using the 19(4) route because he's technically not an implicated person, but he can be asked to come.  Just bear with me.
	Mr Mpshe, a further aspect.  If somebody wants to call him as a witness he can be asked to do so but at the moment he is not an implicated person.  I can't say that he should therefore be summoned in terms of the Section as an implicated person when he is clearly not.  His name has been mentioned but that does not mean he is implicated as envisaged by the Act.