JACOBUS JOHANNES DE RU
It's very difficult to answer that, I gave a whole police dossier to you.  I know today that amongst others, Fouche is making other allegations concerning this and what his version of what happened.  I'm here to tell you exactly what happened there that morning, exactly what my instructions were.  If you look at the circumstances as it now seemed from the police investigation or from Fouche's allegations concerning this, I believe that in a criminal court it would be difficult for me to say now how a judge would feel about this matter.