MR HATTINGH
Mr Chairman, I respectfully submit that we are now getting back to the question of full disclosure and I - what I would like to do is ask the question and if the applicant is not prepared to give an answer, I will accept that.
	I am not going to ask for any details whatsoever, but what I say is I am asking the question with the aim of full disclosure because this is as stated, this is a Black Cat hearing.