FERDINAND BARNARD
I did not have contact with the persons from the CCB anymore, so I simply did what came naturally and denied everything, because the only guideline that was given to me regarding the attitude of the organisation was that Joe Verster was in the hotel room, in the Braamfontein Protea Hotel, when he showed me what his attitude was.  He pointed with his finger to the section of the page that stated that he denied everything regarding the Webster incident.  So at all relevant times, I was under the impression that the CCB would deny everything regarding Webster.