DANIEL PETRUS SIEBERT
Yes, your Honour.  On the morning before the interrogation we had final consultations with Colonel Goosen.  He made, he brought it to our attention that Mr Biko would be a difficult chap, that from experience with prior detentions, apparently in Natal, he mentioned that during those periods of detention he offered no co-operation, that he would ignore one and that on a different occasion in King William's Town, he had beaten a security officer, a certain Mr Hattingh with a fist.