CHAIRPERSON
Mr Hattingh, aren't you mistaking the issues now?  If we were in Chambers, I would have said it in some other terms.  The fact of the matter is that we need to decide her status in respect of this hearing.
	I am quite aware of the problems of this community.  That she is maybe in this unfortunate position that she needs to tell the world about her son, I have grave sympathy for.  The point of the matter is and I am asking you again, is this the proper forum to do that?
	We can't convert an amnesty application into a matter that I think would properly be dealt with perhaps in the Committee dealing with investigating the human rights violations, may I suggest.  All of us need to realise that the Truth and Reconciliation Commission has been divided up into certain Committees.  This Committee has been established for the purpose of dealing with amnesty.
	Provision has been made for people to tell their stories to the world if they so wish.  That Committee deals with investigating or investigations into human rights violations.  I am happy to hear arguments in an attempt to put Mrs Mthetwa into a victim category in this application where the death of her son is not the subject matter.
	I repeat I have my sympathies for her position, but surely you must appreciate that this is not the proper forum unless you disagree with me.