MR LOWIES
Okay, there's some confusion now and I'm going to afford the opportunity to clear that up.  I started off with the following, yesterday you told the Chairman specifically because he wanted to get clarity on the following point, you told the Chairman specifically that the reason why you applied for amnesty in Boipatong was because you heard that lies were being told here regarding the police complicity in Boipatong attack.  Do you still agree with that evidence?