MOKOTEDI MPSHE
Yes, Mr Chairman, there was by one applicant Dirk Coetzee, that he actually was operating with them.   That's correct.
	Mr Chairman, I just want to correct a mistake I've made here about the victim September.  I thought we were talking about General, because they are using code numbers.  September I said we could not trace them.  That is not true.  I have just checked on my notes.  September's relatives I did trace.  September's full names are Glory Sedibe.  In this matter I contacted, as I indicated this morning, the Minister of Defence, Joe Modise, who is the brother-in-law to September, and I subsequently learnt that actually the wife to Minister Joe Modise is a sister to September and I spoke to her as well.  This was on 11 December 1996.  The sister to September, that is Mrs Jackie Modise, agreed that I can send Form 2 to her as the sister, which then was done.  This morning at 6 in the morning I phoned Mr Joe Modise's
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house to find out when are they available.  Mrs Jackie Modise said to me that she will not attend but she has deemed it necessary to forward the amnesty Form 2 to Glory Sedibe, that is September's wife, who is presently in Zambia and she continued and stated that Glory Sedibe, who is September, has a brother who is currently in the Transvaal, but she does not know the address nor the telephone number.  The other brother knows the particulars and this will be forwarded to me and this has not been done.   That is all, Mr Chairman.