CHAIRPERSON
Yes and we should have a reason, if we want to reject the evidence of Mr Mbatha, we must have a reason for doing so and it appears on Mr Mbatha's evidence that these attackers were busy until they had a group of people gathered in the same place, in one room with one door and one window, all bunched together inside and they were speaking comrade language, exiles, the people in the room were responding on the terms that they wanted to hear about wanting to leave the country for military training and everything else and then there was a shooting without any warning at all.