MR VISSER
Mr Ngo, am I correct in the evidence which you have from your handwritten statement, page 19 before you, page 41 Mr Chairman before you, you mentioned Bester, Ramoseu and you have mentioned also Mamome now.
And you mentioned a person by the name of Brigadier Liebenberg.  Do you remember that?  It is at page 41 Mr Chairman, the second paragraph.