MR MARTINI
Chairperson, just for the record again, I don't want to continuously object, so I'm not going to and my failure to do so mustn't be regarded that we accept.  The problem which we have is, it's unfair to this witness if Mr Bizos is putting a wrong version.  That's the difficulty.  I don't want to prolong these proceedings but it's creating - I think it creates an unfairness to a particular witness, because at the end of the day we do have the record when we argue.