CHAIRPERSON
I think there must have been, looking at it from any angle, there must have been some tension because it's common cause that at that particular time you had two large groups, factions, of the community, politically orientated, facing each other.  I mean that didn't just happen because they wanted to have fun.  So there was obviously a problem.  It wasn't a bed of roses at Zevenfontein otherwise you wouldn't have had that confrontation.