MOHONAETSE STEPHEN MOTSAMAI
They said to us - they called us all, that's myself, that's is Mr Tsoametsi, Warrant Officer Mbanjani and that is Mtyala, we went to the office - to the Superintendent's office, that is Erasmus.  When we arrived there Superintendent Erasmus said to us he has organised a lawyer for us who is going to speak on our behalf - in what or about what, he didn't explain but in my mind I thought that the lawyer would speak for us because I've already requested amnesty or applied for amnesty.
	He made means that we should go - we left here with a Ford Husky.  All of us - all of those people I mentioned were in that husky.  The person who collected us from our homes is Sergeant Mamome.  He knew where we were going and who is that lawyer but he denied to tell us - to explain to us who is that lawyer.  
	We arrived at your offices, we found the person sitting on your left hand side.  He was together with the officers I've mentioned, that is Coetzee, Shaw and Erasmus.  We sat around the table - nobody knew but Mamome knew - had a knowledge about what was going to happen.  Warrant Office Mbanjani and other people didn't have a knowledge of what was going to happen.
	That person stood up and explained to us that we've come here because of Nelson Ngo's case or cases.  I don't know the person who was sitting on the left hand side of Mr Visser.