MR DORFLING
I'm reading from line three sir.  "And if there was firing with an AK47 from the guards in that proximity, five to ten metres from behind you, is it possible that you could not hear it under the circumstances?".  "No".  "Did you hear such automatic fire behind you?".  "No I did not".  "Now Mr Eddie Khumalo has testified that he did indeed fire on automatic fire from that corner, approximately at this point in time".  "Which corner is that sir?".  "The corners of Plein and King George, that is now the people that were on your evidence five to ten metres behind you.  How is it possible that you did not hear it sir?".  "I cannot say anything on Eddie Khumalo's statement".  "No ..." and there's an intervention, "my recollection is that I did not hear any". "But I think now what is being put to you ..." and this is by Mr Justice Nugent, "But I think now what is being put to you is that your evidence that you are giving me cannot be correct because Mr Eddie Khumalo says that he fired with an AK47.  Is it possible that you could not have heard that?".  "No it is not possible, not an AK47".  "Well then how does one reconcile your evidence that there was no sound of gunfire from there with Mr Khumalo's evidence that he was in fact shooting from there?".  "From behind me I do not recollect any AK47 from behind me".  I want to put it to you sir that it is clear from your evidence that you explained to Mr Justice Nugent that if there was AK47 automatic fire coming from that corner behind you, it would be impossible for you not to have heard it if it was automatic gunfire.  Do you like to explain that?