DR PRETORIUS
These two kinds of testimony are related.  Should he claim for instance that the counter-
revolutionary planning included particular executive directives and so that the secretariat became involved 
in specific cases where they gave direct commands with regard to the execution of these policy decisions, 
then it would be very difficult to distinguish between the kinds of testimony.  These two kinds of testimony 
will be woven so closely together that it would be impossible to distinguish between these kinds of 
testimony.