MR STANDER
...[inaudible] it was not just one person but two people hitted at me, you  know, knocking me against - my back against the wall, actually I don't know their names.  From there I was told that I was going to "shit" and I was standing all the time.  Okay, in retaliation I said I was prepared to "shit" that high.  And thereafter, because they saw I was prepared, I'd made my prayers, they took me away to Bensvlei.
	Then after a few hours, I think around 10, I was fetched there and formally issued with a - that is now all the things they were alleging against me, accusing me of.  On the, during the process Nicholson was amongst the people.  They were changing, that is now, hands on me. This was would come, everyone would come to pose his questions.  Nicholson was one of them and he also clapped me because at one point I can say exactly what made him to clap me.