MR HENDRICKSE
Certainly yes, Mr Honourable Member, Mr Chairman.  There may be discrepancies with regard to the time, whether it is five minutes, 15 minutes that the people lay there.  There may be discrepancies with regard to how many people were at the scene when the actual shooting incident took place, there may be differences in the evidence that is here before you.
	But it is my submission that does not detract from the fact that the applicant made a full disclosure of all relevant facts that occurred, and I stress relevant facts.
	It is neither here nor there, whether it was three minutes or five minutes.  It is neither here nor there, whether he was making a movement towards his side also.
	It is not our case Mr Chairman, that we say that we are acting in self-defence.  It is clear before this Commission that Mr Menyatsoe said when he walked towards the Mercedes he had the intention, he made up his mind, I am going to shoot and kill.
	That is what he said.  In a further question that was asked about the movement of the hand, he said that he decided for himself now is the moment to fight.  It brings us back to his state of mind.
	I hope I have answered the question of the Honourable Member.