HENDRIK JOHANNES PETRUS BOTHA
No Chairperson, that is not what I testified.  What I say is the visiting magistrate will put a question to the detainee which he will put in writing and when there is an allegation of an assault the magistrate will react that such an assault be investigated and the place of detention was visited by the magistrate so he will physically make an observation.  So what I am saying is what I saw from the magistrates' reports was that they fulfilled their function.