ADV DE JAGER
Those people attacking you at your home, you didn't know who it was, whether it was criminals or whether they were politically related?
MR R.B. CELE: I knew that there were political violence or conflict in the nearby areas, therefore we stayed knowing very well that we were going to be attacked any time, we just didn't know when.  Therefore we stayed, knowing very well or armed that in case it happened that we are being attacked, we defend ourselves.