CARL CASTELING BOTHA
I have seen the effect that it has had on Ferdi Barnard and I would like to say that for similar reasons I was anxious to testify to get the burden off my shoulders as well.  I think it was very clear from the beginning what my relationship was with Mrs Omar for example, and the members of the youth who were represented here, and from the very beginning, and I say this within context, I reached out to them, not because I felt it to be out of guilt, but I wanted to reach out and apologise.  I had done this before I testified.  Briefly I saw what the process had done to Mr Barnard and he was quite a tough nut to crack and this process definitely broke him.  So therefore I would also like to express my regret and my remorse unconditionally to those who were involved and to ask for their forgiveness.