RAYNER MARIA MORINGER
I think we stopped, okay the Transkei tried to locate Mr Mbotoli in Johannesburg, and asked my assistance and I agreed to assist, but I made a suggestion that I am not prepared to get involved in any assassination of anybody, and I also made a suggestion that from the Intelligence point of view, it is much more sensible to try to get Mr Mbotoli to the Transkei, because that would allow to debrief him and to find out who are actually the people in the South African government who support and who are actually engineering the coup, or the various coup attempts.  That suggestion was accepted, and I was asked to assist in executing that particular task.