D WORDSWORTH LETHULI
What I can say is that at Unit 4, there was a court.  This court were by old ladies, it is in the UDF area, the old ladies used to be sent there to get their monies.  This Khodosa and the other boys, they used to stab these old ladies, kill some of them.
	On this particular day that I'm referring to, it was said the old ladies are now dying.  Then I realised that if I attacked Mzelas, there are people who are actually there or vending there, selling some things for the old ladies, it will be difficult for us to get hold of this Khodosa, what we should rather do, we should actually enter from the back where these old ladies are getting their pension.  This particular area, it will be on the UDF area.   
	Indeed we entered from behind, where they never envisaged.  What I said to the people that I was with that, "Man, the person that we are looking for here is Khodosa, so there are old papers here and there's all sort of people here, so Khodosa is the one that should be found".  Indeed, when we appeared, then Khodosa and them started shooting.   
	On our side it was difficult for us, and I just heard that "Khodosa is this side, this side", and everybody was actually disregarded by them, so Khodosa is the one who was actually directed.  I wouldn't say that they were not shooting, but the person that we are looking for is Khodosa, and Khodosa had no way out, because we had already closed all the entrances and the exits, and he was actually forced to enter Unit 4, and when he was nearby the church, that Xbile Church, on his way there, there were the specials there who were already barricading there, as we were approaching there from the other direction, we told them to barricade that site, and then there we were already awaiting him there.  	The person that I remember who was there, Bheki Makatini, and that's when they attacked him on the yards of that church, at that Xbile Church.  I couldn't even see this Khodosa, because I was supposed to go back to the shops so that the boys that I was with were actually looting now, and at the shops taken all sorts of things, I had to go back and actually tell them to stop doing such things.  When I arrived, Khodosa was already attacked.