TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  But I was also surprised, because when I was fetched from the refugee camp in Zimbabwe, and then straight to the airport, to Lusaka, I was surprised to find ANC guys waiting for me.  And also one other thing that I did not understand, when I was in the movement's detention or whatever, at that time I am told that Ms Mpisi, who was the protection officer, a UN protection officer in Zimbabwe - I am told, I don't know - approached the ANC in Lusaka.  She first approached the Zimbabwean Government, wanting to know about my whereabouts, and the Government told her that I voluntarily left Zimbabwe for Zambia.  And again I am told that the UN approached the ANC office in Lusaka about my whereabouts, and the chief rep at that point in time said that he didn't know where I was, and said that I never reached, you know, the ANC office, if you get the point.  And it was not until I escaped that all these things came out, that I did not leave Zimbabwe voluntarily, and that when I was in Lusaka the entire period I was in actual fact in the hands of the organisation.  So I cannot really say, if you get the point, that the Zimbabwean Government was working with the ANC, but it might have been possible that certain officials were in connivance with the movement.