MR BLACK
Mr Chairman, I wanted to alert the Committee to that because what had happened I gathered, because I was approached by Mr Hattingh about the first statement and what I wanted to avoid is I had to then clear it up with Mr Gushu.  He said that those were his original instructions.  It would appear, and my respectful submission is that he has applied for amnesty timeously in respect of this, it's one incident of an issue.  So, it would be my submission at a later stage, if necessary, that matter could be heard.  It would remain alive perhaps.  I was hoping that we could either at the end of this written submission explain to the Committee that he has applied for an additional one and that he wouldn't be prejudiced.  If the Committee is not going to be prepared to allow him to apply for that matter at this hearing because of the variety of difficulties which possibly a person might have to be notified, I don't know, then I will just proceed with the incidents which are now in terms of the signed written document and I would then have to object to any suggestions or questions being put to Mr Gushu about the other incident which does not appear on the written document.