MR BERGER
Chairperson, in fairness to the witness, the quotations and the witness has answered the question really, the quotations that my learned friend is relying on, are set out in a brief introductory paragraph headed "Manifesto".  In the very same document at page 65, the ANC deals with the Kabwe Conference, in that very document.  My learned friend, in questioning Mr Ismail, should place ... (tape ends) ...