ADV MOTATA
Mr Van der Berg, wouldn't you think that what the Chairperson has said, is more probable than what you are putting out on paragraph 8, because if you were to talk about the photographs, like he said in his evidence, the applicant, they are motionless, something you can't see and then we return to the video.  What I saw and correct me if I am mistaken, is just somebody appearing and shooting.
	What obtained prior to that, did we have an opportunity to see what obtained prior to the person who came and shot?  I am not sure whether I saw that on the footage, I am not sure that I did?