THEMBELANI TANDEKILE XUNDU
They were quite a distance from us, that is what you must understand.  Because the road was at an angle, this way, so when the siren is on you actually see from a distance when they are actually on ...[inaudible] yes, on the right.  Okay, you hear the siren going on and you can actually judge the distance, how far they are from you.  It's normal, you ...[indistinct]