GEORGE BIZOS
...(indistinct - no microphone)  May I proceed please?  Mr Chairman, in relation to who Louie was, I merely want to refer to bundle B on pages 93 to 94 in which Mr Barnard indicates - 94 to 95, indicates that Louie was van Zyl, Mr Chairman.  No, Mr Chairman what he says is by inference, he says that - well you'd better say what he says, because I'm getting conflicting ...