EUGENE DE KOCK
This R100 000 which is being discussed here, has to do with the second incident if I study this application, it is the second incident which was not successful and in which he died.  I didn't know anything about that, I didn't know whether or not he received any money and I don't know who provided the personnel funds.  As I have said the radio equipment and the packing material and the operational preparation thereof, came from my Secret Fund by means of false claims.  So in other words, this R100 000  and the funds that were involved in the third instance of weapons supply, have absolutely nothing to do with one another.  This R100 000 is unknown to me, I cannot give any evidence surrounding that.