MS COLERIDGE
Then just one last point, I want to refer you to bundle A, page 170 Chairperson.  I'd just like to ask Mr Verster one question and I just want to see if he still feels the same way after the processes and his experience with the Commission and his experience in life with the changes and reconciliation that has taken place in this country.  It's just the fourth line from the bottom on page 170.