CHAIRPERSON
Thank you.  Is there anyone who wants to ask a question?  Just one question Mr Odendal.  You mentioned that the Witdoeke were fighting because they were being killed, or you suggested that they were being killed and their houses had been burned, I just want to understand does that imply an understanding, on your part, and an allowing of the kind of fighting back by the Witdoeke and police?  Are you trying to say you understood why they were fighting back and so you kind-of accepted that it was necessary?