MR VISSER
Mr Chairman this is really, I haven't opposed or objected to this before, but really it's a question of legal argument.  The learned Commissioner Lax has already put this to Mr Wills before.  It's a matter of legal argument and frankly Mr Chairman, a lot of time might be saved if my learned friends would read the Khotso House judgment, because that is where this issue was dealt with by the Amnesty Committee Mr Chairman.  We're really just wasting time with these questions.  This witness can't answer legal questions.