CHAIRPERSON
No I can understand that.  If that is so and Mr August was perceived to be a leader, one of whom was responsible for this siege on the PAC and given the evidence that there was a decision by the PAC at some level or forum that we need to get rid of the leadership who are so besieging us, why didn't they shoot him as they planned?  That is the evidence.  I don't mean to put you into a corner, if you can't answer it well ...