MS PATEL
Well even at the trials, Sir, you stated that - let's find the reference - you even mentioned at the trial that you were not accompanied by a large group of people, that were only a small number of you.  I refer you to page 15 of the judgement, Honourable Chairperson.  Sorry?  15 of the judgement.
	So it is correct that there were only a small number of people present and not thirty or forty as your co-applicants have told us, not so?