CHAIRPERSON
Now what that policeman will come say if he comes to testify but it's been put to you on the policeman's behalf, is that what you are telling us is not quite true because he was the person, he claims at this stage, he hasn't testified yet, he is claiming that he was the person inside you encountered, most probably crying there and his pistol was on the floor, who was injured during that incident, three times.  What do you say about that?  On version he must not be telling us the truth then?  Or he will not come tell us the truth if he does come testify that?