GRATINA NINELA
Mr Mhlodi.  And he told us that people of the TRC are looking for Ninela's family, they can't find Ninela's family, but some people have come out, come forward asking for amnesty, but they didn't know where to find us.  They told us what happened and finally told us to go to TRC offices when they were still in Durban.  They said Blessing was taken to - I mean when the sister brought the news of what Blessing said the last time, he asked the sister, "Do your know where Swainsbury is?"  No, she didn't know.  And he said that place is round about Amanzimtoti, that is where he was killed and moved to Bulwer.  A bomb was placed on him to make anybody who hears the bomb exploding or anybody coming after that, seeing his body was exploded, the impression will be that he had a bomb to put on the railway.
	So after that we went straight to the TRC people where we got a piece of paper with the information which Andy Taylor gave to TRC people.