MR MALAN
You see, why I'm asking this is the impression we had and unfortunately I didn't put this to Mr Mngomezulu is, the impression I had at least, speaking for myself was, that he gave evidence that this Chris Phewa came up to him in a very threatening manner and that he had to protect himself and that's why he shot?  So that's not correct?  He shouted from a distance and you had the discussion and then you shot him?
Is that your version?