MRS GCABASHE
Good day, Mrs Luthuli.  We thank you very much for having come before this Commission.  The day that you have chosen is quite a bad day, because it's a rainy day, but we do thank you for having come before us.  We appreciate it because the main objective of the Commission is to get the truth about all the things that took place in the past so that we may get a clear picture as to what happened, so that even if we want a cure for this we know what the symptoms and the root cause are.  The main reason that you have come before us is because of the loss of your husband, but we would like you to talk about your family and tell us what's the composition of your family.  Do you have children?  Do you have parents?   Firstly, it is said that you were born in 1945.  Is that correct?  