MR TSHOLANKU
As it please you Mr Chairman.   I'll read on page 70 of the ANC's second submission to the TRC, paragraph 5 - these submissions were apparently made on the 12th day of May 1997, it reads as follows Mr Chairman
"It is not possible"
Appendices, MK Operations and other Armed Actions:
"It is not possible to give a detailed account of every MK operation as requested by the TRC, we did not keep records of this nature mainly for security reasons.  More detail will forthcoming in applications for amnesty by various commanders and combatants"
	There are two lists of armed actions attached to these submissions, Appendix 4 provides information on operations carried out by members of MK, arranged chronologically and according to the nature of the target in each case.  It is drawn from reports, recollections from the MK commanders, press reports and SAIRR ...[indistinct] surveys.  There are probably omissions and some mistakes may have occurred due to incorrect reporting or a range of other reasons.
	The incidents and attacks listed in Appendix 5 fall into the grey are described above.  We are not certain that all these attacks were carried out by MK personnel or by people trained by MK personnel.  We cannot state with certainty what the objectives of these were but it is probable that many were carried out in good faith in that belief - incorrectly at times, the cadres were acting in accordance with the injunctions by the leadership to intensify the struggle at all costs and carry the struggle into wide areas.  In other cases, we strongly doubt that our cadres were responsible but do not have sufficient information to substantiate this".
Now, Major Mbatha, I have read out an extract from the submissions by the ANC and my emphasis is on this particular paragraph where it said:
"We cannot state with certainty what the objectives of these attacks were but it is probable that many were carried out in good faith in the belief - incorrectly at times, the cadres were acting in accordance with the injunctions by the leadership to intensify the struggle at all costs".
Now, you have mentioned what you referred to as your command initiative pertaining to this particular attack, can you safely say that that command initiative can be associated to this particular injunction by the leadership of the ANC that is mentioned in this particular submission?