UNKNOWN
Thank you Honourable Chairperson.
	My submission in respect of the question of the application for arson in respect of the second applicant, my submission in that regard is very different to that of my learned colleague.  I do believe that it sufficiently related to the main act for which the applicant has applied and that it therefore should be considered.  However, in respect of the assault, GBH, my submission is it's an entirely separate incident and cannot fall within the ambit of what he is applying for, for what we are able to consider here today.
	Regarding my learned colleagues submissions in respect of both applicants not having complied with the criteria of either full disclosure or political motivation, I agree with him wholeheartedly in respect of those submissions.  I do not believe that either of the applicants have any political understanding or if there is that it is very limited.  Also that their political understanding did not at all relate to any of the conflicts of the past, it merely related to a dissatisfaction with an administration at the time which they could not link or they had no understanding of the link between that and apartheid and therefore the conflicts of the past and my submission is that on that ground that they do not fall within the political objective within the Act.