MR LAX
You see the impression that we have got, is that there was a first "in-house", at that first "in-house" only you and the person whose project it was, and sometimes Wouter Basson might have been there, sometimes he might not have been there, but it was at that level.  The second "in-house" where we have been led to understand so far at any rate, that is my perception, then entailed the Managing Director and it was only after that level, that it then went up to the Chairman.
	Now, you have debunked that perception in the sense that you have said "well, it didn't quite work, it wasn't as rigid as that", but the point I am trying to understand is, did you exercise a qualitative discretion in the sense that you could stop it before it went to an "in-house"?