MR WILLS
The Radebe hearings helped me considerably, thank you, yes.  In fact I've improved since then, with respect, Mr Chairman.  I noticed a mistake I'd made in that application.
	But, be that as it may, I had no alternative other than to list, I mean, apply for amnesty in respect of a general period, because we know that these firearms were used over a fairly extensive period time, and there's obviously no way of saying exactly at which time which person possessed what.  The only clarity that I've got is that from the time Mbambo was operating as a hit squad member in Izingolweni, well shortly thereafter, he got a whole trunk-full of arms from ...(intervention)