ERIC WILLIAMS
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ADV. MOTATA: Yes.  We would require our Afrikaans interpreter in the box.  Just further down it says
"The statement was taken by Sergeant Ramabula of the South African Police at my private office and in this office it was myself, the person making the statement, Makumu the interpreter and nobody else."
And if you go further up the question is:
	"To which ethnic group do you belong"
and you answered and said:
	"I am Shangaan"
Do you see that?