SATHYANDRANATH RAGUNANAN MAC MAHARAJ
Thank you.  Chairperson, my contention has not been that J 1 on its own should be seen as standing alone.  What I've done is to put a set of documents which have a time sequence to it.  That time sequence starts with J 1, which is the 14th of February 1988.  The significance of J 1 is that it has a column on the front page which says who has submitted the report and the code number of the source.  J 1 source is P 1666.  What that report does is it identifies Charles Ndaba and has reference numbers which show that as at February he was a potential target of interest to the South African Security Forces and (b) that his reference numbers show that there was no indication that he was at that stage working for the South African Security Services.  That's as far as that goes with the addition that I made that if we look at page 11, and in particular I drew attention to paragraph 41 where I said certain people's names appearing there were clearly marked as not of security interest.  There were other instances in the same document, but not in that clause, which refer to agents with PN reference numbers.