MR MAPOMA
Yes.   But, Chairperson, it doesn't end there.  If we looked at the killing of Vips Motloung as a matter for whose killing amnesty is being made, I submit, sir, that it would be very difficult for applicants to qualify for amnesty in respect of killing Vips Motloung as a person, because there's nothing that they say they have done for killing Vips and there's nothing they say they know regarding how Vips died.   It is along those lines, sir, that I submit that insofar as the killing of Vips Motloung is concerned, full disclosure has not been made.