CHAIRPERSON
I think Professor, you can proceed.  I've indicated to you, for example page 40, you have the Commissioner saying
"Take you time Mr Smiles"
Clearly putting him at ease and that was a different - he was making his statements in a different context and I distinguished clearly in mind between a situation where he would have been making a statement which he would know that it would take him to prison.    And if a person is a bit hesitant under those circumstances where he was to make a statement which could possibly take him to prison was less hesitant and less willing, I would understand it in my mind but proceed if you really think you're making a good point out of it.