MR VISSER
Yes I immediately checked myself.  Nowadays, particularly with these amnesty proceedings, one has got to be careful how you express yourself.  Chairperson, what about perhaps sitting this afternoon?  I know that your position is now compromised as a result of you wanting to go to Pretoria.  I'm just wondering whether we can't continue with Mr - perhaps take a short break and then continue with Mr van der Westhuizen, see how far we get?  It's now 1 o'clock, you've got to leave at what time Chairperson?