MR SHANGWENI
Thank you. Sorry for that Mr Chairperson.  Mr Chairperson, it was well known at that time in Claremont that a political conflict existed between UDF and Inkatha supporters.  This was as a result of an attempt to incorporate the Claremont township to the then Kwa Zulu self-governing State.
	There was resistance to that effect and a committee was formed to oversee that process whereby Claremont residence were against the incorporation of Claremont township to the Kwa Zulu self-governing State.
	Therefore Mr Chairperson, in light of that conflict, the applicant found himself on the other side of the conflict, that is on the side of Inkatha.  His acts were committed in an execution of an order by Djamile who was also part of that conflict and he was made to believe and he believed ultimately that UDF supporters are his enemies.
	In respect of the killing of Zazi Kuzwayo, the statement of Begezizwe Alex Kumalo, at page 187 of the bundle, paragraphs 43 and 46 thereof, if I may read - paragraph 43 reads:
"During the planning, Maslanduna meaning Dalikolo Woodsworth Letule said there was a boy, meaning Msizi Jethro Hlope who was going to accompany us and he was to go to see if Zazi Kuzwayo was present and if so, he was to come back and tell us the position as to where Zazi was.
It was agreed that if Zazi was there and the circumstances allowed us, we were to carry out the operation but if he was there and the situation was not right, we were not going to act but instead we had to check how the place looked like."
If I may further take you to paragraph 46 Mr Chairperson, which reads:
"From Djamile's house, the hearse drove to Claremont post office where it was parked at a certain spot near the post office.  Msizi alighted as arranged and he went to check inside Zazi Kuzwayo's shop.  After a short period of time Msizi Hlope returned and he came to us in the car and he told us that Zazi was there in the office inside the shop.
Thereafter Msizi Hlope left us and walked away".