TOM MADLALA
The one that I first heard about was on the 6th of September 1995, when we were paid a visit by the ANC leadership, who were coming from the national organisation.  The comrade, Carl Niehaus was from the National Executive, there was Bheki Cele who was a Deputy Secretary in the province at the time.
	There was Sanso Nxunu who was the First Secretary of the ANC.  There was a mass meeting of all the ANC comrades in church hall in the prison.  That is when I first heard about the cases where comrades were involved, almost half of them, and the complaints that the comrades had, we heard about them on that particular day.
	As usual the MK members in prison, Lucky Sithole would be the one who would represent all the MK cadres in prison.  Their living conditions and the ANC activities, he would talk about those, and he would even talk about the integration after they are released and about their pensions.  That was Lucky's task to forward that information to the leadership.