MR WILLS
Yes thank you Mr Mkhize.  The last area that I want to cover also related to some of the questions that Mr Ngubane was asking you yesterday and that concerned his questions where there were the attacks on areas and generally ANC areas or ANC buses and he indicated, he was asking you about the risks involved about innocent people getting killed and he was using the phrase "toddlers".  What was your feeling about these issues?