MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA
My last question just to clarify, just clarity in our investigation.  There is a security police who gave a statement over and above the things that we heard at the Guguletu-7 hearings, his statement it is clear that indeed these two people were Ascaris were sent from Pretoria.
 Because at the request of the people so that they could search and find the comrades.  One of the things he mentions in his statement, he says Christopher was resident at Nyanga Bush, he was one of the people who were in your home guard working with Zwelitsha and Zwelitsha mentions that in his statement, but I was confused now at the beginning, that Christopher - it seems you don't know Christopher?