MS T MAYER
Let's come to the date of October 1986.   That's where we went to Samora's funeral.   When we came back from Samora's funeral, we discovered that we were not quite accepted because we were from Samora's funeral.  Then on the 11th of December, as a person who was recruiting the youth to join MK, then on the morning of the 11th Mrs Mbatha came to my place in the morning and she had come to ask whether there was any person who was going to Swaziland.   I said to her I was not sure but I knew that there was a group of ten which was going to Swaziland.   So, she wanted to take them with because she wanted to give them some messages and some certain things, so that they could take them to Swaziland because she did not have money.   We made arrangements to meet at a certain place just before the boys had to go.   Now, when I was standing there, waiting for the youth to come and get some money from me, they took the money.   They made a loose change and we took them to Durban Station and I gave them certain things that they had to take to Swaziland.   And I told one of the youths that they were going to go with Mrs Mbatha, as well as Ngcaba.  I warned him to tell the other youths and I did not want them to go the same time.   Now, I wanted - because I avoided raising suspicion.   They got into the kombi one by one and I had already given Mrs Mbatha to pay the driver.