FERDINAND BARNARD
Mr Chairperson, I did consider it, but I was scared or concerned that, you must now remember that Joe Verster came with me all the way.  He agreed with me and he denied all involvement in the Webster incident.
	When it was coming to an end or a point and there was a formal inquest, then the people, all in the Defence Force, they fought in the Bush War, and they all ganged up against me.  People testified against me that I did not even know, Jerry Botes, one of them.  And the reason, when I thought about amnesty applications, I thought "let's say I go, all these people will gang up against me again, they will be able to prove certain statements and I had nobody to support me".