THOMAS MANTHATA
Which seems to even defeat the ends of the Commission because if we accept that there was that kind of mass killing, to get a single person out of it may not be easy.  I'm not saying we are not going to do it, we are not going to try to find that out, I'm just trying to point out how difficult the work that you demand of the Truth and Reconciliation Committee might be.  With that in mind we are saying the Commission will see what it can do.  How old is . your son beside you?  Pinkie, Vusa, I'm sorry.   How old is Vusa ?