MR PHOSA
Maybe perhaps you missed my point - I am deliberately this, I understand ...[inaudible] your question, what I want on record and I would like to say it before - at a later stage, is that as important as this occasion - we must understand, is to you, you don't as a matter of fact know where you were when you got the report, you don't.  I mean - not think, you don't ...[inaudible]