VULENLELE CHRISTOPHER SHLOBO
First of all what happened is I heard from Mr Gumengu that there was an operation that was to be done in Umtata.  Tami Moweli was the person they were looking for, Tami Moweli was associated with Sthembele Zokwe in connection with the ANC movements so whilst I was preparing to go home he told me not to go home because we're going to that operation because that was my weekend off.  We then went from Butterworth.  It was myself, Gumengu, Sgt Nogana and other members.  They were using another car.  When we arrived in Umtata we went to the branch, the Security Branch in Norwood whereby we were briefed by the police of Umtata, they were the ones who knew where Moweli stayed so we went from the branch, we went to Moweli's place.  When we arrived there, other police went in and then some of the police surrounded the house.  Myself, Gumengu and Nogana, we patrolled around the house and around the Royal Hotel nearby.
	After a while, I think after 9 or before 10 at night we saw a Mercedes Benz, a white Mercedes Benz stopping next to the post office.  Two men got out of the car, one of them we identified him as Mr Sthembele Zokwe.  We didn't know who the other person was.  So we approached Sthembele, we asked to speak to him.  The man who was with him proceeded to go inside the hotel.  When we arrived in the car I asked him about the arms because we had information that he had hidden arms in Butterworth so he told me that he had spoken with Brig Dingane about all that but he didn't say that at first.