MR MALENDI
Chairperson, if you can bear with me for a second?  I would like to read to you what Mrs Du Randt said when she gave evidence during this hearing, it's further down on page 875
"The next morning after we had met Clive, my husband had rang the bell and he had come out and I said to him..."
and I presume the him was to Mr Derby-Lewis- 
"I thought it was a man's jersey but I see now it is a gun."
	Did you hear those words being uttered by Mrs Du Randt?