MR DUKADA
But now in your application for amnesty, Exhibit E you are talking about abduction of Ndondo. Let us read it to you paragraph 10a of Exhibit E. You say Batandwa Ndondo - first have the statement before you Mr Shabalala so that you have a good memory. You say that Batandwa Ndondo was suspected of being an ANC terrorist. He was to be abducted.