MR VAN DER MERWE
Mr Chairperson I am Andre van der Merwe and I am representing Mr Phelane, and I have been appointed by the legal aid board.  My instruction was that the hearing will start today which is the 14th, I wasn't alerted to the fact that it could be starting on the 13th. I give my apologies to the effect to the Committee and I have consulted and I would like to proceed in cross examining.