MR KRUSE
I think it was in the Hex River Valley Pass, we were going through the pass, we have many buses.  There are many, many other members, but the point I just wanted to prove, I don't think that you are telling the truth.	This is the point I am trying to make.  You said you were disbanded, and I was aware, and we were aware as our Intelligence, that you were not disbanded as a Unit, that you were still operating as a Unit.  We were aware and one of the things we regularly fed misinformation over the phones to see how you operated and that is why that is something you would definitely remember I think, in your mind.  Where a group of buses are stopped by you as a team and we were all put to the ground.	We were taken out of the buses, particularly myself, Bongani Jonas, Wally Roode, David Fortuin, Jamie Vearey, all members, people who went through your hands at some stage, we were deliberately taken off the buses and put to the ground?