CHAIRPERSON
Doing what Mr Khumalo, may we ascertain because we have not been able to hear you tying Meme and her friends to anything in particular.  You also made a reference to having seen Oupa Smith as being a part of a group that drove the vehicles.
	You have only been able to tell us that one of the prominent IFP members called Gatise, also drove these vehicles.  We however have not heard in relation to what Oupa Smith's name has been mentioned.
	Is it in relation to his association with Gatise, was he also seen driving the cars that were seen being driven by Gatise and were the victims Elsie Mokoena and the deceased, Hapile Nduno seen in the company of any of the drivers of the Gatise group?  Can you just clarify those issues?