MR VAN DER BERG
As it pleases you, Mr Chairperson.
	Mr Menyatsoe, is we look at the first paragraph on page 19, I will read it to you.  This is what de Kocker said under oath:
"My mamba vehicle stood on the opposite side of the road. I stood with my vehicle. I could however see the whole scene.  At this stage the situation was under control.  No shots were fired.  There were a lot of media personnel at the scene".
Can you comment on this?