CHAIRPERSON
Yes, "seker elimineer".  Now, I - am I correct in saying that the support is being given to Mr De Ru and understanding being given of his situation by the Union on the basis that the people he killed would have been people who were - who would have committed the crimes in the process of trying to overthrow the Government, in other words political?  Is it on the understanding that the people he killed were, shall I say, terrorists or people who were trying to overthrow the Government?