MR WESSELS
Thank you.  It doesn't apply in the Evans and Omar matters because there was no bad result.  Proportionality is a slippery fish that comes into play when there is a result and it's a value judgement.  If for instance in the bomb incident, the motive was and the instruction was to kill a minor supporter of the ANC and a massive car bomb was planted one Sunday afternoon at the soccer match where there are 40, 50 000 people, merely to eliminate that particular person, that's where the proportionality ...(indistinct) will become relevant or if you have, if you know that a certain person will be on an aeroplane, a boeing and you plant a bomb on the boeing and the whole boeing comes down, that's where proportionality becomes a relevant factor.  It's only in the extreme cases where you can apply it because it's a relative concept.  It becomes impossible to apply in the usual cases, or in this particular case where the bomb is planted and a building is destroyed, it's not a relevant factor in these circumstances and the Commission will know much better than what I do, how it had been applied in the past where people had been killed on the other side of the political spectrum for sometimes less than good reason, nevertheless amnesty has been granted.  So in my submission, proportionality in these cases that are before you now, is not really a material factor that should take too much of your time.
	Now it's been suggested here that in other cases where amnesty had been granted that probably could have been granted wrongly because the proper principles of proportionality hadn't been taken into account by the Committee.
	Mr Chairman, let me emphasise, if I read the Act, there's a Committee that deals with amnesty.  It has been altered and there are many Committees now dealing with that, but in law there's one Committee that makes decisions on amnesty and although the principles of precedent don't apply, this is an administrative process and the principles of fairness demand that a Committee will be consistent in its application of the principles.  Now as we say about the umpires in cricket games, they can be wrong as wrong as they're consistently wrong.