LAWRENCE GERALD WASSERMAN
I recall that on a particular night, we took Ndaba and Shabalala out of the house and drove off with them in a VW kombi on the North Coast road on the pretext that they were being moved to another safe-house.  Van der Westhuizen, who had picked a spot earlier during the day, drove us to the river mouth of the Tugela River.  We stopped near the bushes at the river mouth and van der Westhuizen and I got out under the pretext that we wanted to relieve ourselves.  In fact, we went to the river mouth to make sure that the coast was clear.
	When we returned Botha said that everyone had to go for a leak and seeing that we had a long road ahead of us.  We got out of the kombi and I remember that I was close to Ndaba and Shabalala because after they had relieved themselves, I touched them both on the shoulders with a downward motion, and instructed them to sit.