ROBERT JOHN MCBRIDE
Oh, they were definitely used, definitely used.  In fact, if it was not for those firearms, the place would have been overrun by the hostel dwellers.  Those firearms helped in defending the community, I am hundred percent sure of that.  In fact President Mandela, when he was briefed on this matter, in and around July 1993, praised the Self Defence Units in speaking at Huntersfield Stadium in Katlehong, for the good work they did in defending communities.