MR PRETORIUS
Mr Chairman, I've just got a couple of questions to raise with the witness with your leave, thank you.
	Mr van Reenen, just regarding the shooting incident, if you'll refer back to page 2055 before line 10, the piece after that you relate how you arrived there and then you say:
"Moments thereafter shots were fired"
Let's just place that in perspective, you said that you and Van Greunen were bumped out of the way:
"Van Greunen went west and I went east, moments after that shots were fired"
So there moments after you had been bumped out of the way in a western direction, the shots went off?