JUDGE DE JAGER
No, I don't know whether he's asking for amnesty for assault on people or attempted murder on people, or whether he's saying:  "well, I've done nothing wrong, I acted to protect myself."  If he's saying:  "I've only acted to protect myself", he could say that and we could leave it because then it's irrelevant as far as amnesty is concerned.  If he says:  "Well I exceeded the bounds, I'm asking for amnesty", then it's another matter.