MR HUGO
I agree with you Mr Chairman.  While we are talking about this, you will remember that I said in chambers, Mr Radebe is available for the matter which is being discussed down here and the planning was not that he would be a witness in this matter, but I have told you that it is our approach that if we can assist to clear up things which are not clear in this whole probe process, we will assist you as far as possible.  Mr Radebe is here, if you want to listen to his evidence, we will help as far as possible on one condition that Mr Radebe will start testifying in his own application tomorrow morning and if he is not in a position to continue with his application tomorrow morning, this will mean that that hearing will have to be postponed.