MR VISSER
And that Trevits by 1990 came to an end?  My attorney shakes his head, I do not understand it properly it seems.  I do have it wrong there, can I just state it correctly?  The capacities and tasks of Trevits in terms of gathering of intelligence with regard to foreign countries changed in 1990.  After the unbanning of the ANC and other radical organisations, as they were viewed in those days, and then they started to work with internal intelligence gathering.  Would that be more accurate to state it in that manner?