MR BLACK
Mr Chair, may I just in defence.  Mr Mojapelo is not here, but I understand that this argument will be recorded, it is being recorded and he will be afforded an opportunity of submitting his written statement and argument, but the actual position, as the Committee will recall, that during the course of the hearing, of the initial hearing Mr Skosana's name was mentioned in a statement which was prepared and, on the first day of the hearing.