BRIAN QUNA MKHIZE
Mr Chairman, in our townships the situation is as follows:  J2 for example is known to be an IFP area.  There is nobody who resides in that area who would not take out or pay a certain amount towards the IFP.  People would pay and donate, people who were in charge of protecting the community, would be paid.
	Monies would be donated to buy guns and (indistinct), (indistinct) to strengthen the people and therefore anybody who resided in that section belonging to the organisation, would be expected to pay these monies, even though it would be against his or her will, but such a person would pay these monies and attend meetings, because if a person did not do that, such a person would be attacked and ex-communicated.
	So that such a person would be expected to pay the money to maintain the boys who were protecting the community, that was the kind of life that prevailed.  That is why there was this assurance that people in a particular area belonged to a particular organisation.