MR DORFLING
Mr Chairman, if I may just for purposes of the Committee's reference, the last statement relates to the findings at page 139 - 145 of the said judgement.  The previous statement relates to the findings at page 137 and 138.  The last statement yes, as to the so called question of futitive self defence, if I may call it that.  At pages 139 -145.   I've got no further questions, thank you Mr Chairman.