MR VAN DER BERG
Yes certainly Mr Chairperson, the ANC was not disbanded, but one would expect that if someone say that he is this loyal supporter of the organisation, one would expect more from him, than what the applicant said in his document or statements.
	In that document he did not say that.  If it was truly such a big political goal and he was such a big supporter, then he certainly had to put it in his document or statement?  He would have mentioned it in his document, but by not putting it in the documents and to say that I forgot, it was a long time ago, it is not good enough, not if it is so important, then he would have mentioned it in the documents.