MR DORFLING
I beg you pardon Mr Chairman, yes indeed, we mean the objector's affidavits.  It sets out the detail of the nature of the injury and the circumstances in which it was sustained.  In other words, whilst I'm in a jacking mode or running away, shot from behind, shot from the side, those particulars do indeed appear in the objector's affidavits.
	Then, Mr Bizos in the request for further particulars seeks the objectors to admit to certain facts, for example speeches of Mr Humphrey Ndlovu, radio transcripts which transpired between policemen and members of the ANC.  At present my position is simply this, that I'm appearing on behalf of nine individual objectors.  I'm not in a position to admit facts that don't fall within the ambit of the knowledge of those individual objectors.  I cannot therefore make admissions that might bind and might have legal consequences on parties on whose behalf I carry no mandate to appear.  
	Certain suggestions were made that we should be able to admit that the meeting that the meeting took place, for example, at the instance of the IFP.  Appearing on behalf of the objectors without knowledge of this fact I'm not in a position to either admit or deny such facts and therefore, their response in the request for further particulars that we're not in a position, it might have a lot of legal consequences and therefor, we're not in a position.