SISI KHAMPEPE
Mr Meyer, have you had recourse to page 122 of the transcript in his evidence which is not, I should concede, crystal clear, but which does address the issue of dancing up and down?  That is Mr Ramaligela, I think it's incorrectly spelt out but there is a reference to Mr Ramaligela having danced up and down and saying he wants to destroy his family.