GLADSTONE TEMBISILE NTAMO
Firstly I would say Crossroads was the place where UDF was established and it was formed there.  It was having a stronghold there.  Mr Ngxobongwana was the Chairperson of the Western Cape Civic Association which was part of the UDF.
 What happened is that when he was arrested in 1985, things changed.  Because he was released in a very funny way because we knew that there was an Attorney from Pretoria that stood up for him, because that is how we think the position went on, that's why he turned against us.
 But all this other areas, UDF was established.