GARY JOHN KRUSER
I don't think we can answer the question - I am saying on the day when I recollected the events I thought I acted in a manner which is justified.  The objective evidence however shows that clearly the guards shot longer than what we thought we shot or maybe I gave the order much - took too long to give the order, whatever, one of the two of that but it's very clear that we shot longer than we were supposed to shoot.  I accept that that's - the objectives actually prove that and I accede to that.