MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, thank you for allowing us to deal with those.  If we may now return to the incident, with the following comment.  After this moment, Chairperson, we will not deal, unless you specifically require us to do so, with any political or general background any longer.  We believe that we have placed what is necessary before you and this will form the basis of all the amnesty applications in regard to all the incidents mutatis mutandis, Mr Chairperson.