GEORGE BIZOS
I don't want to become too involved in semantics with you, Mr Verster, but where you were referred to as the Managing Director, would they be regarded as the members of the Board so to speak, because you were holding out that you were a sort of commercial undertaking?  Could we refer to them either as the inner core or the members of the Board?  You can choose.  I just want a frame so that I don't have to repeat myself all the time.