MR VISSER
Mr Ismail, I will make certain submissions in that regard, of your answer.  The other thing, Commissioner Bosman asked you whether you measured the bodies and you started off by saying "yes", and then you were asked now what about completely decomposed bodies, and then you said they were rarely measured when they were completely decomposed, but they would normally be weighed.  That is how I understood your evidence, have I got that right?