CHAIRPERSON
Thank you very much, that's a great help.  What we will now do is we will ask the three officers of the CDF just to make very short inputs and then  [and you listen]  I will limit my colleagues here to three questions each because we then, I want us to go on up to half past two when we will then take, we will ask the former Attorney General to make his submission and then we want to complete the testimony of the last eight witnesses that we have for today.  My hope is that we would be able to finish at perhaps 4 o'clock or so.  So thank you very much.  May I, I have not done this, I think we want to say we welcome you, all three of you, all four of you, we welcome you and we appreciate the fact that you have come forward to assist the Commission.  Thank you very much.