ADV MOTATA
Mr Mapoma, could you perhaps deal with that submission against this background of the evidence before us that there were perceptions at first that some of the criminal acts perpetrated against the community were done by the ANC Youth League, and the ANC Youth League had the same perception.   Then we have one of the applicants, Shongwe, who says, "I belonged to both", and in this instance we would refer to the evidence of siphoning of petrol or paraffin, that he was even prevented by his own colleagues in doing so.   That, because at first that is the case of the applicants, they didn't have hard core evidence against the ANC Youth League, at first.   Then the evidence emerged, when Blanko was killed, and them also perceiving that Bulelwa is killed by the same ANC Youth League, even though I'm saying there's no evidence, because there are suspicions between the parties who killed Bulelwa, but they say that concretised their suspicions about the ANC Youth League.