MAMOGALA JACK MKOANA
Not exactly, because I could not even identify what an AK-47 looks like.  Even now, I don't know how, I never touched an AK-47 with my hand.  So with the explosives, I have now been trained in explosives (indistinct), but as I say I have never, I have been an ex-policeman, I know the R1 and other weapons, but I have never touched an AK-47 or hand-grenade with my hands.  So I deny that allegation.