W RIAAN BELLINGAN
That is correct.  As I have testified earlier, I asked the, those askaris to, because there was a weeks lapse of time and we did not quite know how to plan, but they must just keep control of the weaponry and keep control of the vehicles, so that if it came to an arrest at the intersection and there was a shoot-out, that we can minimise it.  That is why I said they must keep the weapons in their control and possession.  So yes, it was Eric's.