BOY VUSIMUZI GWAMANDA
Sergeant Venter was in charge of the sports and the recreational services, in fact activities and I was the chairman of that department, recreational activities.   Lieutenant Venter was an assistant of the Town Prison authority or head.  Lieutenant Joubert was across at the farm, that's where he was stationed.  He was at first in Town Prison but then he was transferred to Open Camp at the farm.
	When you go towards the Maximum it was referred, that place was referred to as "the farm".  That's where he was.  Colonel Roets was working in the commanding office.  The structure of this office was structured in a way that there was an area manager.  He was working there, he was stationed there, although I don't know what his position was.  
	Warrant Officer Geldenhuys was working at the Town Prison ....[intervention]