UNKNOWN
Mr Chairman, she said that she was forced, she 
was under Section 29 and she did not want to make a statement.  
If you look at the video recordings, it is clear that she did not act 
voluntarily without legal assistance.  And also, in here detention 
file it is indicated that she was ill at a certain time while de Waal 
said she was fine.  She had heart problems, she received 
medication.  What then with respect, is the value of a statement 
made under these circumstances and ...[intervention]