MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA
Before you do, thank you, just two little comments.  The first one refers to your comment that you think Pik Botha might be a better person to respond, I don't agree with that,  you are here as the representative of the National Party and it's very hard to perceive things, events, in the way separating them in terms of who ran what departments.  The National Party were in government and I don't agree that he would be a better person.
 Just one last comment about the, the context again, you EAST LONDON HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE
27 R MEYER
know that the ANC, not only the ANC, just events we have to see them in a context and in the fact that Goldstone sat and made their findings does not really mean that everything is conclusive.  Other commissions on the third force were never conclusive and the new findings, in fact the Goldstone didn't tell us who that man who is supposed to have ...(indistinct) that they were being shot at by the crowds, was, we don't know who it was so there is still room for further findings.  Thank you.  Mr Kriel.