MR NTONGA
Okay, the gentleman who sat there made a statement which is part of this record 25, the bound record.  His name is Atta Kwadiso.  I refer his statement, Mr Pama, because in his statement, page 25 the third paragraph, he said that he saw a man with two guns going up those steps ordering him to lie down, two firearms on his hand.  You see that?  Do you have any comments on that?