SAMSON ZONGIZILE TUIS
From Pitso, yes, from the Commander, no.  I now want to clarify this issue of rape.  The doctor explained in Court, the doctor said the rape did not take place.  I want you to get that one clear.  The doctor explained in Court that this person was not raped at all, but how the blood got there, the doctor explained yes, it was Pitso's blood, but how, he said Pitso was one of the weakest men, who would even ejaculate by just seeing the woman and the doctor explained that so weak is Pitso that upon seeing a woman, he just ejaculates.  What he did we did not see, but the doctor mentioned that it did not happen.