MRS DERBY-LEWIS
...[no sound] bribery - I think Justice Wilson put it correctly, that I was referring to them as agents of influence.  If I may just read a few names that were given to me by an organisation called USELEP which is the United States/South Africa Leadership Exchange Programme, where journalists are taken overseas for a year to the Neeman Fellowship at Harvard University and then they come back and normally when they come back they have obviously been under some kind of influence, otherwise this University wouldn't be doing this sort of thing.
	And we found that many of them who did go over came back with a different frame of mind towards South Africa and in that list is Mr Tim du Plessis's name and quite a few others, I won't read them out because it would simply burden the record but some of them are very well know, for example Mr Pakendorf, Mr Tom Vosloo, Mr Alf Reece, Mr Brian Potinger.  All of these people are influential in the journalistic profession in this country and they have all been to the same place that Mr Tim du Plessis has been to.