CHAIRPERSON
That may be so but Mr Hattingh, this hearing concerns the applications of certain people who say they committed certain crimes, not so?
	It follows then that if there are victims, or families of victims who have now died as a result of what the applicants say they did, certain rights are required by those victims or their families.  
	In the event of a public hearing being conducted, how relevant is the death of someone who is not involved in any of the incidents referred to in the application, how can it be relevant?  This we must remember, is an Amnesty Committee.
	Such an incident may have been relevant in another Committee of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, hence I ask how you can appear on behalf of a victim or that victim's family when the incident in which the victim was injured, or killed, is not being discussed in this hearing?
	That victim or his family are not then an interested party in the hearing?    Can you explain that?