JOHANNES JACOBUS VIKTOR
We were upfront where we expected the problems, we were there.  And as I have explained we were about 45 or 50 men, not even that, and as I have explained right in the beginning in my memo, that we had responsibilities all over Ciskei, we couldn't bring in all the policemen from all the stations then I think maybe it wouldn't have been just Bisho being taken over but maybe the whole of Ciskei, so we couldn't bring in all the policemen to deal with this problem on that day of the march.  And that is why I explained here we only had the Riot Unit.  And as I have tried to explain Sir, whatever my CDF colleagues might say now we were there right upfront where we expected the problem, but when things changed, I can assure you Sir it's quite a few hundred metres where the people ran through the stadium on the other side, and then if we had to withdraw all our people, I did explain to the Commission that I asked Major Simms to send a few men to see what is going to happen there, these people running not into the stadium but going past, and as far as I am concerned he did send men there.  But we couldn't redeploy Sir, we couldn't redeploy.  We were up here.