UNKNOWN
Unfortunately no.  People used to tell us who went to these meetings ... (CHANGE OVER TO TAPE 5A)
It is not easy for me to talk on behalf of my father because he never told me, but what I believe is that he couldn't have taken such decisions that his sons must be killed.  Things started changing when my father elected Booi to take over.  But I don't think he is the one who said Bongo Nkosi must be killed.  And what I am sure of is that these (indistinct) were taken.  I don't know why the police who were safeguarding my father had no guns that night.