MR VISSER
I am just talking about girth really, would she have been - may I read to you Chairperson, what I have been referring to, in the record on page 1900?
	Mr Wills asked Ms Masetla to stand up and an estimation was made of her height in relation to whatever and then in the middle of the page says Mr Wills -
"... Thank you Ms Masetla."
	And then he says this, have you found the passage Mr Chairperson?