MR MBANDAZAYO
Yes, Mr Chairperson, I agree with you, Mr Chairperson, he has said that.  One, Mr Chairperson, I wouldn't like to go to that argument as to what supporters should know and what they should not know.  I will leave it to the Committee.  But my position is that he has indicated that he was a supporter of the PAC at the time.
	Also Mr Chairperson, one other aspect which has been raised by my learned friend, the question of that if the Committee accepts that he was a supporter then automatically what he did there was part and parcel of his conviction that he wanted to be a member of APLA. 
	Now my point comes to the question of money, how the money was going to used, Mr Chairperson.  Mr Chairperson, I find a difficulty how he would isolate the question of taking of money and being a member of APLA, which is in regard to Mr Masilela and also supporter.  People were in jail, Mr Chairperson, and they wanted money to be used as a means of transport to get to their destination, which is going back to the liberation struggle.