MR VISSER
Commissioner de Jager is quite correct.  May I just add one further detail and that is, perhaps, that one should not only think in terms of implication.  It may be, Mr Chairman, that there is an interest that may arise.  It has not arisen yet, but it may be an interest that arises and then I will, obviously, make noises from my side and ask you for us to be able to cross-examine.  See, Mr Chairman, the whole issue here seems to be, the interest here from my client's point of view, seems to be that there may be aspersions, allegations that there were some defeating the ends of justice.  Now, that is what I am here to protect, it has not arisen yet and I quite agree with Mr de Jager, perhaps it is an idea for me just to keep quiet until the situation does arise.