MR MALAN
Chair, may I just for the record, put it to Ms Cele, that Thulani of course in his application for amnesty here, did not apply for the murder of Amos Cele, he in fact denies any involvement.  The question was put to you whether you can think of any reason why Thulani or Roy would have killed.  But just for the record, so you have knowledge, Thulani denies any involvement in that killing.