MR WILLS
The only thing I can do, with respect Ms Committee person, is again refer you to Luthuli's evidence, where he says when he got to Hammarsdale, and he says this specifically, that the IFP was involved in the killing and raping, and that is, seems to be plural in the context, and that is the only evidence we have of this.  And if that is the only evidence the inference is that under the command of Mkehle this sort of thing was going on.  I don't, I'm not suggesting it was a direct order, but I'm clearly suggesting and submitting that Mkehle knew that this was going on and it was tacitly condoned.