MR VISSER
Yes, thank you Mr Motsamai.  Would you bear a moment with me, Mr Chairman.  Mr Chairman, if I may explain my hesitation of a moment ago, I am attempting to cut out as many possible questions as possible, perhaps this is a convenient time for me to place something on record Mr Chairman.
	It is clear and I am certain that the Committee understands this, that my clients deny all allegations of their involvement, whether it is by instructions or by participation claiming or covering up or whatever.  It makes little sense again as it was in the case with Mr Ngo for me to put every single allegation, to controvert every single allegation and I am certain you will also appreciate that that would save a lot of time.
	In the case of Mr Motsamai, it goes a little further.  We will argue at the end of the day, that he has not made out a case in very many of these instances.  We can, if you require us to do so, we can lift the deficiencies out for you, but with respect, it is not really the duty of the cross-examiner to allow him to build up his case in cross-examination and therefore we do not intend for example, he would say such and such a person was assaulted by us. 
	So what, unless of course he implicates somebody by name, that would elicit a reaction but otherwise not.  I hope that you would understand that Mr Chairman, because it is all in the interest of perhaps saving time and that is why I am going fairly quickly over the incidents right now.