VICTOR WANDA MUCHACHO MABASO
As I have already indicated that everyone knew that Stephen is involved somewhere.  Let me just confine myself to Stephen.  Everybody knew what Stephen was.  We were at, or in the office one evening having supper with others who patrolled.  Myself as in charge of, issued an order to the effect that he should be fetched, so that he could be questioned about his activities as to where he stands, because we were not sure of his stance.  We have different departments and we also had our own intelligence department which would take care of anything pertaining to intelligence.  I'm sorry, are we talking about Stephen or Beki?