MR WILLS
Yes, sorry Mr Chairperson, I must withdraw my question.  I had in fact made a mistake, the events comments at Gundani's shibeen and then later on four people were killed at Paul Ngema's shibeen.  That is correct.
	Can you describe the circumstances in which those four persons were killed to the best of your knowledge?  I know that you weren't directly involved in this incident, and you were originally tried, as you have been alleged to have been involved in this incident, but you were indeed acquitted, but as far as you know what happened to those four persons, at that shibeen.