DJ MKHIZE
No Mr Ngubane, that is not so.  Because I have explained before this Commission that the shooting of people who - I'll say the shooting of a mob of people would have a motive behind.  There was no instance where we just shot at people without a motive.
	I also referred to the bail at Mtunzini where Ntunu testified, where the ANC had attacked at a rally, where Gideon Zulu crawled on his stomach.  We decided to use the same strategy that was being used by the ANC by attacking at random because we realized that the ANC was similarly benefiting from this strategy.  And people would realize that we were not protected if we did not use the same strategy as the ANC did.
	And I also indicated that it is known in politics that people would follow the kind of organisation that offered them protection.  There is no situation such as random shooting for no motive, no political motive for the shooting.
	Therefore I disagree that I was actually testing.