MR STEENKAMP
Mr Chairman, may I just put the record straight and if needs be I'll submit certain documentation?  I don't want to embarrass my learned friends here but Mr Malan was subpoenaed on a request of my learned colleagues here.  I have just spoken briefly to my colleague here and he indicates to me that he doesn't need Mr Malan here any more so as far as at least I am concerned, Mr Malan is not relevant at all.