MR DREYER
It is not my attempt to confuse you at all and in all fairness, I will rephrase the question and it is a very simple question.
	When you were confronted for the first time regarding the involvement of Viljoen and Hartzenberg you said you knew it for a fact.  And when you were confronted for a second time regarding that and pointed out the risks and complications, you said that you thought so because they held joint meetings and it all formed part of the right wing umbrella organisations.	 Is that correct?