MR SWART
That has been explained to them, Mr Chairman, at some length, because my client, the son of the housekeeper who was killed is actually my client.  He feels that it is his Christian duty to forgive the people and he has said so, but by the same token he feels that this Act has got specific requirements and if the applicants apply for amnesty they should meet these requirements and he feels they do not meet them.  Thank you Mr Chairman.