LAURENS MBATHA
As I have said, this is, actually, not the first, it was the second one at that stage.  If one does recall well, during that stage we had a situation where the mass action campaign was introduced, because things were not, actually, proceeding well.  We had an operation called Operation Barcelona spearheaded, actually, by the league and at that time, as one commanding, actually, in the Northern Cape, I was commanding in the Northern Cape, actually, focusing on all areas of the Northern Cape.  To me, at my level, it became very clear that there is a situation that is starting to build up and, unfortunately, that is being (...indistinct) so fast, but when we proceeded at that stage, it appeared that the intensification was around the right-wingers, of which, when you go to Kuruman, it is about 27km away, they one, actually, one of their largest training camps.
	Their training camp there was, it was more on a weekly basis.  The intimidation, assaulting of people, was becoming a very common thing (...indistinct) as the Vaal, Haaswaterbel, the situation was becoming very serious and for me, at that stage, I could not come up with a clear distinction, because I regarded the right-wingers, especially from the statements that we are (...indistinct), that they have a very strong force and support within the security forces of the country.  That situation did not end up there.  One, actually, became more sensitised when one learnt of the Polo Park incidences, when one learnt, actually, about the death of comrade Chris also, that was in April.  It became very clear that this situation is not, actually, going out as one, as one was, actually told, or expected that it should have gone.
	For me, at that stage, preparations started to occur in the Northern Cape. Preparations were engaged mainly to prepare for the eventuality which might rise and it is unfortunate.  I have a very limited strength of members, that is those who were trained. When I refer to a trained MK (...indistinct) I am referring to those who are coming from outside and with that limited number, one had to try and centralise the whole approach, decentralise it, in the sense that we had to reopen up structures all over the Northern Cape and those structures stretched from all areas, that is Kimberley, Upington, De Aar, Posman, Petrusville, you go into Warrington, you go into the Bop Belt, where you have the (...indistinct), you have the Gomotso's, because that was the basis that it is important that one will have prepare himself now, because of these activities that are becoming very visible to us and among which of the civil war aspect was becoming very serious.