JEAN DU PLESSIS
I was very shocked.  The Monday afternoon Van Wyk came to the flat, that was the 14th of October.  He came to tell me that White was waiting in the park downstairs, he was a bit too scared, he didn't want to come upstairs, because he thought it was possible that my flat was being watched by the security police and that things had gone terribly wrong.  So I went down to the park in Burgerspark and there I talked with White.  He informed me that things had gone terribly wrong, that there had been a shooting and that three people had died, three people at the house had died.  He also told me that Mrs Roux had been shot dead.  Of course he was shocked. I was also shocked.  In truth I was so shocked, that I couldn't any longer give leadership, not at that moment.  White was angry about that because he had come to seek leadership from me at that stage.