CHAIRPERSON
But on your evidence as I understand it and I appreciate it that it's in any Quasi military organisation it would be that.  You felt you should not take action in the area in which Mr Erasmus was in command of or the fact that he was your immediate commander that you shouldn't do - take action without informing him, without letting him know.  Why didn't the same apply in the relationship between Mr Erasmus and his commanding officer, the divisional commander?  Shouldn't Mr Erasmus have felt the same feeling - that he must let him know what's been done in the division as his senior officer, that I think is the question.