URIAL ABRAHAMSE
Mr Chair, with your permission, I should like to elaborate slightly on this paragraph.  It has been variously alleged that at that house MK activities were carried out.  In fact there's a second-rate author by the name of Peter Stiff who wrote a book about the South African Special Forces operations in which he talks about that house and in which he says, number one, that it was a safe house, number two, that it was a - that Mike was an MK Intelligence Operative, that I was an MK Operative and various assorted bits of nonsense.  A safe house in Intelligence Community is not necessarily in the first instance a house.  It could be a house, it could also be a ...(indistinct)...(intervention)