MR MCBRIDE
I'm not in a position to say who was there.  I mean, you're representing the people.  You know, how many people are you representing?  I don't know, I never had the police records, why it's going up and why it's going down, why names are added or names are taken off, I don't know.  The same thing with Mr Baker, I don't know.  What I do know is that in the statistics given by you to Mr Ismail, there was a very big discrepancy in terms of Security Forces killed in Church Street.  You said two and the records who nineteen.