MR PRIOR
Alright, I don't want to engage in a debate with you about that, we're talking about the situation in 1992 but I accept your answer.  You see, with the generalisation that every white person, and particularly, I'm coming back to the King William's Town Golf Club, do you concede that there were possibly many people there that did not have military training, that were not members of a commando, that had not had cadets at school?  Or does your perception exclude that possibility?