RAYNER MARIA MORINGER
Okay, during the time before the 12th of April 1991, one of the requests from Mr Mbotoli was also try to find out if Gen Holomisa has got some Swiss banking accounts, because there were rumours that Gen Holomisa might be corrupt or might have funding on Swiss bank accounts.  Mr Mbotoli was interested to find out something about this.  We agreed that we have to set something up relatively quickly and I approached a friend of mine and asked him if I could use his house for a business meeting in the evening, which was not a strange request because at the time, I lived in a very small house and for business reasons, sometimes I asked friends if I could use their facilities.  So I phoned this friend and said may I use your house for an important business meeting, and he said yes.  Then I spoke to the people involved, they must get ready and I tried to contact Mr Mbotoli and left messages for him to phone me and under the pretext that I have got some gentleman from a Swiss bank here, which might have the information that he wants to know about Gen Holomisa.