TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  When these warriors, amabutho, came inside they took Sibongiseni.  Sibongiseni said, "Why are you taking me away?  What have I done?"  They took him away.  And others just looted any clothing or things inside the house.  They took radio, they took the video, they also took a carton that had things in it, and they left.  And the one who came after the deceased, who is also here, and they said, "Here is another one."  And the other one said, "No, quickly let's get out before they get a photograph of us here."  They took him away, roaming around with him.  I don't know for how long did this one - we found him, I heard, on the opposite street from our home.  He had been shot.  I don't know if they were stabbing him with knives all over his body, because the T-shirt he was wearing had holes all over it, and the pair of pants he was wearing had been cut underneath.  I don't know if they had cut off his private part for muthi purposes, because that used to be their tendency.  And the soldiers arrived, and they told us here is another body they had found, and they brought him back.  I don't know if they were trying to burn him, because there was some little grass that had been put on top of him, and maybe they realised that they were going to waste their time and then they left, and then we went to fetch him. You are talking about Sibongiseni?  Is it Sibongiseni you are talking about that his private parts were taken off?   ---   Yes.  I just recognised through the pants, because they had already torn the pants in front. 