SAINT MKULULI MANYAMALA
When I arrived at Spruit I had thought he would not have organised the guns when I got there.  We were travelling in a car that was not in a good condition and I explained to him that I would not be in a position to carry the guns in the car that was in such a bad condition and indicated to him that it's quite a distance from Thokoza to Soweto and should it happen that we are pursued by police along the way, they would definitely apprehend us and should we happen to come across a roadblock we would be arrested.  The car was a legal car and it was not safe to transport these guns in this kind of vehicle.