MR KNOETZE
Then I'd like to refer you to page 100, paragraph 9(a).  I read it for you
"If we look at the previous constitutional dispensation, I would like to just make a couple of statements.  The old South African Defence Force served the government of the day and not a political party.  We did the self-defence for the State and we protected its civilians, and our internal conduct was in terms of the then constitution."
Now General Malan also touched on that.  Do you confirm that?