MZWANDILE GUSHU
As I was given a mandate, that I had to make a way to train self-defence unit members.  As I had trained them I had to see how I gave them arms.  The manner that it was given was pretty open.  I had to make sure that the self-defence unit was armed.  It was up to me as to how I get those firearms or the money to purchase them.
	Even if I had gone to the ANC and said that I needed money for the arms, I would not be able to get the money.  The ANC lived on solidarity all the time.  I had to go to the boers, get money or find arms from that boer and kill that boer.