ADV PRIOR
Mr Chairman, as evidence leader, the situation was assessed and Koekemoer who, it was common cause at the trial, was a police informer and common cause that he built or assisted in building the bombs that went off in the various places.  It was on record - he had not applied for amnesty, he was informed, as I understand, as an implicated person.  He chose not to appear at these proceedings.  The question of him or his activities in so far as his information to the police is concerned was raised by the applicants.  In as much as Koekemoer's activities with the police was unknown to the applicants, it could not have effected the facts upon which the applications are based.  The fact that Koekemoer may have been in complicity with the police or the police in complicity with Koekemoer would not have taken the applications any further.
	Furthermore, I understood from the witness protection department of the TRC, Advocate McAdam, that Koekemoer had been relocated in terms of a justice witness programme, he received a new identity and there was also a very strong possibility that he was either assisting the Attorney General in other prosecutions and for that reason the Attorney General was not prepared in terms of Section, I think, 31 of the Act to allow or permit Koekemoer to give evidence, in other words to his prejudice.  That situation being the case, the likelihood that Koekemoer's legal representative would have then consented to him to have given evidence was regarded and viewed as being remote and all those facts taken together, I was satisfied that the matter not be pursued and for that reason Koekemoer - I did not insist that Koekemoer be brought.  I'm also - there's obviously Koekemoer ....[intervention]