ZIBA GERALD MPANZA
After I had made enquiries from the comrades, realising that I did not obtain assistance from them, I then called Sifiso Malevu and explained the problem to him.  When I left Sifiso was an active comrade in the UDF.  He is one of the people whom I trusted.
	When I returned from exile, he is one of those persons who assisted me in getting my way around South Africa, because at that time things had changed.  When I returned from exile, I also gave him some information about the ANC and I also trained him under ground so that if I needed assistance, he would be in a position to help me.
	I contacted him, I explained the problem of Mkababa people to him.      I informed him that comrades from Mkababa were short of firearms, whereas they were under attack from the IFP and the Security Forces.   I was telling him this because I felt that perhaps he could have suggestions as to what to do, because he had been inside the country all the time.
	I also informed him that I nor any comrades from exile, had firearms.   It was decided that we should identify a place from which we could get weapons.  As we were still discussing the issue of robbing a place to obtain firearms, we could not come up with any suitable venue.  This was discussed over several weeks.
	As time went on, we were still involved in that exercise of identifying a venue.   Eventually we decided that we shall rob and get money so that we could go to Lindani, who would then identify somebody who would sell us firearms, because there were weapons that filtered from places like Mozambique.
	That is what we discussed, and decided with Sifiso.