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The early stages of it.  The point I'm asking is that it was a time when there was a moratorium about 1990.  Do you remember that?  Of criminal people prosecuted from political, criminal offences, that they were pardoned?  I make specific reference to the case of - I've spoken to Pambile Gizala who was with Sisande Masi, who was with Agadia, they were released from ...(intervention)