MR MEYER
Yes, it doesn't really concern general Ramushwana because I think the only evidence with regard to him is that he slapped Rev Phosiwa with the open hand and there's no evidence by the victims that he was involved in any further physical assaults on any of them.
	He mentioned that he was also applying for amnesty because he took, shall we call it, moral responsibility for the acts of his subordinates.  But, as Judge Khampepe pointed out, that is not something which he applied for in his written application.  When one has regard to his written application, it seems he's only asking for that one assault on Rev Phosiwa.  And, I'm not sure whether the Committee is in a position anyway to grant amnesty for such moral responsibility.