MR VAN RENSBERG
Yes, Mr Chairperson, I amafraid I still have to argue that point on the basis that if we are to believethe applicants, then the reason why they went to the farm was to kill the occupantsof the farm and as Mr Swanepoel testified, there was actually nothing that stoppedthem from actually killing him.  From that I deduct that it was possibly notthe motivation of these assailants to actually kill these people and that iswhy I deduct that there must have been another purpose to the attack.  I amnot prepared to argue this point much further and I leave it to the discretionof the Committee.
        May I justadd another few factors which I consider to be pointers in the support of mytheory that they in fact went there to rob the place namely the fact that atthis stage the Committee have to accept that there is absolutely no basis onwhich they identified the target being a political target.  Mr Swanepoel testifiedthat he had actually no political affiliations, that he was definitely not amember of the AWB and that it was actually his livelihood to trade with blackpersons.  He definitely did not hate them.  If that motivation is then negated,it only leaves one other possibility and that is the fact that he was a farmer,a chicken farmer and I would suggest that it was then common knowledge thathe would have guns and a large amount of cash on the farm. 
        Secondly,Mr Swanepoel's evidence was quite direct on the point that they directed himto the bedroom where the safe was located.  He did not walk in that directionvoluntarily.  This points to the indication that the assailants, the applicants,had prior knowledge of where the guns and the cash would be kept in that house. I want to step off from that specific point and come to my learned friend'sargument that there was no material discrepancies between the versions of theapplicants.  Unfortunately Mr Chairman, I cannot accept that suggestion.  Iam of the opinion that at least for Mr Thobejane's part, I got the impressionthat he tried to make the case against him, or his involvement in that, in factas little as possible.  He fabricated a gun to be in the possession of the farmerwhen he walked out of the house.  I think there can be little doubt that therewas no gun at that stage.  He tried to put as much distance between himselfand the person who actually killed Mrs Swanepoel, he said he was preoccupiedby trying to shoot Mr Swanepoel in the circumstances, but had to concede thatit actually took place in the very same room, there was no different runningaway and shooting.  The two assailants were next to each other at the entranceof that specific main bedroom, that is the evidence of Mr Swanepoel and again,Mr Swanepoel testified, there was absolutely no reason why they did not actuallycarry out their, or why they couldn't carry out their mission, namely to shootthe both of them.  
        To sum uptherefore, I would suggest that there was in fact attempts from the witness,specifically Mr Thobejane, not to put the real evidence before this forum, thathe in fact in that sense, failed to make a full disclosure.  Also referringto the involvement of a certain Jameson Baloyi which he admitted at a very latestage, and under cross-examination to be one of the persons harbouring theseassailants.