ADV VISSER
Mr Chairman no, but may I remind you that we haven't had an indication from you that that would be sufficient.  We haven't addressed you on that at all.  We don't know whether you want us to do so at this stage or whether you believe it is necessary, because as the Chairman pointed out, this was an isolated incident.
	At this stage Mr Chairman, we are quite happy to discuss the issues with you tomorrow as far as the applications themselves are concerned and their merits, we would submit that it would be more convenient for us as well as for you, if we were to draw written argument and to hand it to you at a later stage.
	Unless of course you want us to argue tomorrow, verbally, which we are quite happy to do as well.