CHAIRPERSON
But his application was of course filed - I'm referring to Mr Mbatwa's - Moses Mbatwa's application, was filed separately and dealt with on paper because as the statement says he denied committing the offence.  And he would not have been given a copy thereof because one would not have seen the relevance thereof but if you are interested in it, I suppose you can ask the office in Cape Town and ask them whether they can fax it through to us.