CHAIRPERSON
Mr Guleni, you know, I know it is not the first time that you are appearing to make application, we are not a court of law, you don't have to go through all these long details.  We would appreciate you answering the question and you don't need to fear that you may be tricked, because if any of these Attorneys are busy leading you up the garden path, I will protect you, do you understand that, so you don't need to fear, do you understand that?  You don't need to fear that you are missing out the detail.  Just answer the question as simply as you can.  You tend to give long stories that we have heard before.  Sometimes it is not in your interest to give long answers.  Please proceed.