LYDIA MOSEBI NTHOROANE
In regard to this incident, is what made me very hurt, when Herbert took us to Leeudoringstad, when we were asking them about the post-mortem, they didn't explain anything to us.  They just brought the tackies and the belt, not the trousers, it had disappeared.  I asked them what made the clothes of my son to be wet, then which means - I told them which means you have washed the tackies, because
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they were bloody.  Then we took to AVBOB.  So both of them were not telling us any information about the causes of death. The person who was there, who knows is Rudolph Sipimati, who has recently died.  He was shameful because he didn't want to look us in the eyes, because he was there.