MR BRINK
Yes, Mr Chairman.  Mr Chairman, I understand the application for amnesty relates to the conviction for the murder of Zazi Kuzwayo and Nicolas Mkhize.  The application also relates to the attempted murder of C D Sekekane and J Letule and you will see from pages 128 to 132 of the bundle, affidavits from those two gentlemen appear which indicate what happened to them.  The applicant in this matter ...(intervention)