MR MADLALA
Yes, that is true, because from the time that
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he was taken out - from the time that the van was being driven, Mr Harrington started throttling Jama whilst we were inside the van together with the others who were in the van.  They kept on participating in the assault and when we got to the forest we were all standing when Mr Jama was being hit against the rocks.