MR SANDI
Ja, Mr Kemp.  Sorry, Mr Kemp.  If I may interrupt here for a moment.  I think one would have to be careful how he goes about putting that particular portion of the Goldstone report to the witness because, as I go through this report, it seems that Judge Goldstone had quite a number of unpleasant things to say about the police in the same report, the same report you're referring to.