FERDINAND BARNARD
Mr Chairperson, I did not say that Mr Botha told me that we had to kill Bruce White, this was my own perception.  That is how I thought about the whole matter, because I knew the CCB's workings and I viewed it in a very serious light.  I knew that we were not an intelligence collection service, and that was the perception that I had.  If I can recall correctly, this incident took place in June 1989 and this was after I killed David Webster.
	That could have been a factor that led to the fact that I thought that this would be the next person, but it did not come from Mr Botha or anybody else.  He made it very clear to me that it was only observation.