TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Holiness.  Holiness Gasa.  She left home so that what she experienced and what she witnessed she may not witness it again.  She went to Red Hill.  It was not long.  We just heard from radio that there was a girl who was killed and is with the police at Chatsworth who was stabbed to death.  "We did not know - we could not identify this girl, and we cannot even tell where she came from.  At times some said it's Holiness Gasa, but some said it's Thembi.  Now we are pleading, we are announcing to the parents to come and identify this corpse."  Three days went past whilst we were still talking and trying to get our heads together as a family discussing this, and we decided finally let's go to Chatsworth Police Station.  And we found out she had seven holes, and we buried her.  She was trying to escape the situation.  We don't know how far she escaped, how far she ran, how far she went with all this that she was trying to do, and where she was we had no relatives.  And some of my children were not affected, this did not impact so much on them.  By the way, two of them I took them to Zambia at the ANC headquarters, and they joined the soldiers, Umkhonto we Sizwe.  My children were part of MK.  I in person I took them to Zambia to join the MK.  You know, even if I was young I was going to go myself and join the MK, and come back as a soldier.  Yes, they are back now.  They are MK members.  They came back.  They came back.