STEPHEN DONALD MAKHURA
No, Sir, they are different.
"On the night of the 1st of April 1992 - before I proceed Sir, it must be noted again that I arrived on the 27th of February 1992 inside the country from exile and the incident I'm applying for amnesty for happened on the 2nd of April 1992, it means I stayed less than four weeks inside the country after so long in exile.
	It happened that on the night of the 1st of April 1992, Sebenzile approached me to clean five AK47 rifles and to load 10 magazines of bullets.  I did so.  He said to me: "We will be going to Natal to go and defend people there".  It was a normal thing for people to come and ask assistance from Polla Park since a very strong hold of the ANC politically and militarily.
	Another point to be noted Sir, is that in Polla Park there were political leadership and military leadership.  It's possible that those who are engaged in military actions may not know what's going on from the side of the political office of ANC at Polla Park.
	Then I cleaned the rifles.  The following day was the 2nd of April 1992, we embarked on our trip to Natal.  It was Sebenzile Ndabene, Nozulu, Mac Gregor, Wellington, Joe, the driver of that car ..."
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