MR PANDAY
Mr Chairman, just bear with me.  Now, right, now on page 48 of the bundle of documents, this was a statement given by Mr Joubert, the security guard, who is now deceased, this is what he says in the third paragraph
"... I tried to run away and he grabbed me.  He snatched my service firearm from my holster.  It was a 38 Special and he assaulted me with his booted feet, and I fell down."
	I presume the "he" refers to you, because you confirmed that you took his firearm?