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Thank you.  We would like to know, because there is an allegation like I said there has always been the allegation that there is a third force element in the trains which has now been proved true, that there's an allegation that there was an RSA, RSA had a covert operation run by International Researches in Ciskei, we just want to make sure if that is the truth.
 And further, one would like to know from you, if you can remember, how you responded to a media briefing or a statement that was made to the media after the shooting, because there is a statement that I think, if I remember rightly, the fact that those who were shot got what they deserved, coming from you specifically?  I just want to clear that if you can remember if that was the case, thank EAST LONDON HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE
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