HENDRIK JOHANNES PETRUS BOTHA
On the same date and immediately thereafter, after I had worked with Mr Gordhan, I also spoke to Mr Lalla.  The reason why I interrogated him was in order to obtain information regarding the names and activities of certain persons who had been recruited internally by Operation Vula.  This group of persons consisted out of Whites as well as Black persons.  It was vital to the security branch in order to address Operation Vula completely to know who these persons were, who had been recruited as such, where they resided or where they were hiding and what their activities were and Chairperson, some of these names were not just the usual run of the mill names, these were the names of some very prominent figures who were children of politicians therefore it was necessary to know what their activities were.  I spoke to Mr Lalla and initially he provided information up to a certain point where I noticed that he was holding back.