MR DE KLERK
His evidence was clear that although he was never allowed or it was not the aim of the political party to attack all these attacks that took place and he was involved with he received information either that this person was the guilty one in some or other murder or is going to attack him or is planning or he is going to do something. And he bona fide believed in his mind that this will benefit the party. And I am sure, I don't want to be difficult but I am sure that it can be seen as self-protection which was condoned by the party. The self-protection side. That means we are not there just to sit and be attacked and accept it.