MR LOWIES
Sorry, Chairman, I was taken a little bit aback.  I'll have to canvass this with my colleague.  At this stage I request a postponement, an adjournment, sorry, so that I can just get proper instructions regarding this.  I'm totally unprepared.  Inter alia from Mr Strydom and also my attorney.  Well I can't talk to him now, but I'd like to talk to Mr Strydom.