MR WILLS
Now your evidence is relating to the arrest of Shabalala, is very different to the evidence that was given by Mr Botha.  You've alluded to that already.  I mean basically the difference is that he testified to the effect that it would have been abundantly clear to Shabalala that Ndaba hadn't been arrested, whereas you're saying that you conducted the operation in such a way that both persons would have assumed that they were arrested.