MR VAN RENSBURG
Ja that is all actually that I want from him is just an explanation Your Worship and I will accept that.  Okay let's continue, in your evidence you started off by saying that if you do not get rid of the witches you will never be really free.  And then all of a sudden in your testimony you stop talking about the witches and continued about the actions and your reactions thereon of the deceased...(intervention)