ONTLAMETSE BERNSTEIN MENYATSOE
Mr de Kocker is saying what he saw, what he experienced.  I don't dispute what he is saying but I say I did not see any person around there.  I don't dispute what de Kocker says, that the situation was under control.  According to him the situation was under control.  According to me, Mr Menyatsoe, the situation was not under control.  That is why I said it was a situation of war.
	I don't dispute what de Kocker is saying, that is way he experienced the situation and that is how he observed and thought about that situation.  I don't dispute what he is saying.  Any person has his own perspective of analysing a particular situation.