MR KNOETZE
Then paragraph 43.  That explains what happened then, that
"President Lennox Sebe became aware of these actions against him and he then took certain steps to bolster his own position."
Then let us go to paragraph 44 on page 37.  It says that:
"About November/December '86, General Liebenberg gave Lieutenant-General van der Westhuizen oral instruction that the Command Eastern Province should no longer be involved in the carrying out of Operation Katzen.  The further involvement of Lieutenant-General van der Westhuizen and his staff officers was in a JMB context or as assistance to Brigadier Moore.  Lieutenant-General Kritzinger, who succeeded General van der Westhuizen as Commander of the Command Eastern Province, repeated this instruction shortly afterwards, although no member of the Eastern Province Command was at that stage still involved in that."
Is it true that General Liebenberg told you orally that the Eastern Province Command should no longer be involved?