MR LAMEY
Mr De Kock, then I would like to refer to your evidence with regard to the house which was purchased for Mr Klopper.  I am not representing him in these proceedings, however, I do represent him with regard to other amnesty applications.  He mentioned or you mentioned that his motive for asking you to buy him a house was some form of blackmail.  I would just like some more clarity regarding that, I have no instructions with regard to this matter from Mr Klopper, but I would like to mention that I will receive instructions from him at some point in time.  Do you believe that blackmail was the motive?