CHAIRPERSON
So, then he comes here and he says look, I am a member of Umkhonto weSizwe, I did certain things in the furtherance of my instructions.  One of my instructions were to beat or kill Mr X.  Mr X was a member of an opposing political party and he was doing this, that and the other against the community.
	He comes to submit this and your clients are unable to initially tell you and even at that stage, tell you look, we want to know what happened, and now they are being told.  On what basis can they oppose it, because they have no concrete information to oppose it?