UNKNOWN
Well, what I want to put to you in general terms is this, that this statement has annexures attached to it of public statements made by Mr Chris Hani at various functions from 1991 to shortly before his death and what I want to put to you is that this public record of Mr Hani's utterances are completely in conflict with the picture that you and the applicant, the first applicant tried to paint of Mr Hani.  Did you bother, from 1991 to 1993, to read or inform yourself what the position of Mr Hani was in relation to the future of South Africa?