CHAIRPERSON
What the witness indicated was that the other two people were about eight to ten paces away from him and that if he was facing them midway between them, or thereabouts, would have been the white pillar and the other person in khaki was to the left, some six to eight paces away from him and perhaps three paces away from the other two people.  That is, when I say to the left, to the left from where the applicant was facing in the direction of the other two people.