RUSSELL ALLY
Thanks, that is helpful, because I just wanted to be clear that the 1985, 1986 period, there was no sense that this was ANC or PAC or Black Consciousness.  As far as you are concerned, it was just a movement fighting against oppression of black people and that you saw the States institutions like the police and so forth as the enemy.  Was that broadly how the political struggle was understood by you and by others in 1985, 1986?