BUSHY PETROS VANTYU
I have been a member of DS since 1987.  In response to your second question, you know the problem in the Ciskei was not the soldiers or the police, the problem in the Ciskei was the leadership and its advisors.  Hence you saw the top cream of the CDF being discharged from the army.  When we were organising the march, like you would remember there were a lot of repressive incidents in the villages but we still could go to the villages and we were compelled, because our people lived in those villages, they wanted to be part of the transformation in South Africa.  They were members of the ANC, they wanted to strengthen their branches, and they had that resolve to go to Bisho and make the statement to the Bisho administration that the vast majority of the Ciskean people do not agree with the administration of Brigadier Gqozo.  And I was happy with the measures that were taken.  We had more than 1200 marshals
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many of which I have worked with, and I was sure of their capability.  And I've put it on record that that particular day I was not assigned to bodyguard any particular person but to assist with the marshals, with the marshalling.  We didn't, I didn't really think that we would be shot at at Bisho, not at all.  I never got indication that we would be shot at, hence I was running in the forefront.  I wouldn't just run into gunfire, I love my life.  I still value it, and I valued it then.  I was surprised.  In actual fact when I was hurt I thought I was hit by a rubber bullet.  It's only during the process of being hospitalised or when in the process of getting out of the stadium when people started saying, calling on us that there were dead people, you know I couldn't really believe.  I was telling my friends and colleagues yesterday when we went to inspect the spot where I was shot yesterday that I am happy that I was shot.  I am happy that I didn't have to experience what they experienced, to see all those people dead in front of them.  Thank you Commissioner.  I don't know whether I have answered your question in full.