MR MCHUNU
That is correct, the surviving members of his family.  When he reached Ndwedwe, when he was following his other family, surviving family members, particularly his sister, who was the only one according to his evidence, who was left at that time, he found that his sister was living at this area Ndwedwe, despite the fact that the IFP was in a dominating position at Ndwedwe, but his sister was able to make a living within that area.
	His brother-in-law too, also did try to convince the applicant and finally the applicant was convinced that he had to live in the area of Ndwedwe.  The applicant had nothing on him, he had no hope.  In other words he was just hopeless at that time, he had to make a living, he had to make a living, he had to stay somewhere, and the only place he could stay closer to his family members which was the only thing he had on earth, was his ... (tape ends) ...
	I believe that my learned friend, Adv Mukadam, has also explained quite thoroughly or quite correctly and I agree entirely with the argument, with the submissions which he has made.