JUDGE MILLER
And then comes the passage which was read out to you by Mr Mnqandi - sorry, or Mr Mapoma, and then says here, he describes that you chased him, he ran away and you chased him.  He says
"After a couple of minutes I heard some gunshots, I couldn't go further because of the darkness and so I had to turn back.  On the edge or verge of the dongas away from the place, Gumengu re-emerged saying that Sthembele tried to grab his pistol, so he had to shoot him and he ordered that we should leave without getting the arms."
	What do you say to that?  Is that wrong?