ADV PRIOR
Mr Chairman, my information is that Mr Griesel went into a very deep depression after this attack.  He got shot through, I don't know if it was the neck or the face, and after that he lost his job and thereafter in that state of depression, my understanding - I haven't seen a psychiatric report, my understanding from the investigating officers and the, I think it was Mr Griesel's widow who is now remarried, was that he never recovered fully from this particular incident.  So he possibly was a victim and the dependants may well be, but I understand she is now remarried.