CHAIRPERSON
Let me put it this way Mr Scheepers, we've held a few of these hearings, and many of them had to do with the applications of members of the Security Branch throughout the country, and some of the evidence that we heard was that some of the men that was involved had regular braais, at least once a week.  For what reason it doesn't matter.  Is that something that was written in a book or that was mentioned to the Station Commander, or is something that just happened?