ISGAK HARDIEN
Mr Williams, you told me that I should see to my own interests, that I shouldn't worry about Slang and the others, that they're sorted, that I should think only of my own interests and state exactly what happened, that you could not be involved in this case with me, because you are here as a victim and as a representative or a spokesperson for the victims and that is why you told me where to go.  And I went to the secretary and I thought to myself, 'I still can't trust Pietie, he just wants to fuck me around again and mislead me'.