MR VISSER
Well Mr Chairman, I believe the time has arrived for me just to say something about this.  We've been hearing criticism of the people for whom I appear, that they have failed to make enquiries as to documentation etcetera etcetera.
	Mr Chairman, we have two applicants here they were both policemen, we have the TRC Investigation Unit.  Really we don't know, we didn't know and we still don't really know what their cases are.  With all due respect, the onus is not on us Mr Chairman.  We have we have displayed our assistance and our willingness to assist at all times but my learned  friend can't pass the buck to us.  
	If he wanted to make a point of this, if this was important to his case he should have contacted - he should have made arrangements for the for documentation to be obtained Mr Chairman, with great respect. 
	If if you wish that we should do so, we will bring the file of Mr Morakile.  If you think its relevant we'll do so Mr Chairman.