MR WILLIAMS
Okay, can I refer you to the statement which Gakkie made.  It appears in Bundle B, on page 156.  Would you mind reading the second paragraph, the third one, starting with "De Wet said ..."?
MR VAN ZYL
"... De Wet said that I had to drive around the building again.  When I drove in Springbok Street, in front of the ELC, de Wet told the person at the back that he could press."