MR BERGER
Chairperson, yes.  And those persons who were shot at Library Gardens were shot by members of the Police, except for the Policeman who died at Library Gardens who was shot by one of the marchers and there was an office worker, Mr van der Walt in one of the - in the Volkskas Bank who looked out of his window and got shot and one of the - we don't know, he was shot with a .38 if my memory serves me correctly, but that's particularly relevant for the purposes of this application.  What is relevant are paragraphs 3.11 and 3.12, those were further exhibits recovered by Superintendent du Plessis the following day, the 29th of March.  He got some out of a robot pole, you'll see there on the norther corner, and in 3.12 he got five fragments of bullets which he picked up from 48 Hours Take-away which was on the eastern side of King George Street, King Cobbler, you will recall the King Cobbler, referred to I think by Mr Singeram when he gave his evidence, that's on the western side of King George Street and Bellana Shoes, that's the ricochet shop, that's also on the eastern side of King George Street.  All of these shops are between - in King George Street between Plein Street and De Villiers.  We can continue for a few more minutes, but ...(intervention)