MR KHANOVITZ
Chairperson, Mr van Zyl is free to say that those statements were made under duress, they contain a host of inaccuracies.  If that's his version I don't know what his version is.  Might I suggest in the interests of progress the following, that I will endeavour to take up as much time as possible cross-examining him without reference to those statements that when we come back on the next occasion he will then be given an opportunity to point out any falsehoods or inaccuracies in those statements and we can proceed on that basis.