TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Clermont, it's a place of people who own their places - they are owners.  They have bought the place, although, as time went on a lot of people were looking for jobs, there were people who had rented there.  The owners would build houses and then they would hire these houses out, so a lot of people then were people who had rented places.  There was an advisory board at Clermont.  The first thing the Clermont community didn't like to unite with this advisory board, but as time went on myself and others we realised that it doesn't help that we don't get in advisory board, because there would be things that would happen at Clermont but we wouldn't know about them.  So I myself and Mr Nyembezi, who was the chairperson, I was the vice-chairperson.  There were other people like Mr Pele, Mr Khuzwayo - Emmanuel Khuzwayo - and Mr Buthelezi.  We discussed that we must be involved in this board, so we were united.  We went to the board and we started campaigning.  The first time we won the election.  The people who were in opposition to them called themselves, "Sofizonke".  All of us succeeded and the others failed.  As time went on it emerged that Clermont was going to be taken by the KwaZulu Government and then there was an inquiry.  There were people looking from Pretoria who came to Durban to make this inquiry.  Many people from Clermont went to this inquiry with evidence and they said they don't want Clermont to be under KwaZulu.  Nyembezi was speaking on behalf of the board, but we were all there.  He gave his evidence, giving reasons why we didn't want Clermont to be under