MS HUGO
Let me put it this way - I would say it could be because the detective from 
Graaff-Reinet said that here - that was because we were members of the council of ten and we were arrested because we were the council of ten and most of the information he wanted, I told him not to ask me because it was their work and I couldn't do their work for them.  And they were not going to come to us with lists of names about things we didn't know about.