MR G VAN WYK
I was shocked. As I said he a person who stuck to something if he wanted to do it.  Then I thought if he wanted to join a passing organisation or he wanted to become involved in another church, I thought well let him he do so but I didn't know that it would be so far to the ultra right, I thought it might be the CP or the AWB or something like that, but definitely not as what actually happened.