PIETER JOHANN VERSTER
Mr Chairperson, really, this statement I have no problem approving it to answer in the affirmative but the problem is that this is where all our problems started and this was when Kalla Botha was locked up and this is also hearsay for me, this is a hearsay statement that he is making there.  In other words I cannot approve what Kalla Botha says because I think he made this statement under pressure.