MR STEENKAMP
I just want to quite you a section from The Sheshaba, March 1984.
	 Mr Chairman, I will make a copy available.
I'm just going to read it quickly for you and maybe you can just respond on that.  It says the following, and this is an interview by the then President Oliver Tambo, the following:
"You are aware that the apartheid regime maintains an extensive administrative system through which it directs our lives.  This system includes organs of central and provincial Government, the army and the police, the judiciary, the bantu ...[indistinct] administrations, the community councils, local management and local affairs.  It is these institutions of apartheid that we must attack and demolish as part of the struggle to an end to racist minority in our country"
So what you're saying is it's the whole administrative system as well?  Is this correct?