MR LANDMAN
Mr Chairman I don't want to direct any criticisms at any parties, I just wish to point out for the sake of the Committee that the applications themselves bear a stamp of the Truth and Reconciliation Committee's investigative unit dated the 10th of May 1997, so they had been lying there for some time without this problem being detected.
	Mr Chairman if I could go on to the second required then, though it should be an act associated with the political objective.  Mr Chairman again in the judgement of his Lordship Mr Justice Southwood in the Gerber matter, he makes the point that the Committee would refrain from embarking upon the narrow investigation, this is at the top of page 14, but rather that the Committee will take all the circumstances pertaining to the application into account in the light of and against the criteria mentioned in Section 20 Sub Section 3 of the Act.  Mr Chairman it is our submission that the acts committed by the applicants, alternatively those with which they associated themselves, and this is in regard to the third applicant, fall within the provisions of the sub sections.
	Mr Chairman there can be no question that the first and second applicants were at the time members of a publicly known political organisation or liberation movement, namely the ANC and it's armed wing Umkhonto weSizwe.  In respect of the third applicant he's the person who associated himself with the act committed by the first applicant and therefore falls within the definition of a person referred to in Sub Section 2.g.  Chairman we submit further that the act was committed on behalf of the ANC/MK bona fide in the furtherance of the political struggle waged by that organisation against the State during 1987.  
	Mr Chairman we submit that that is the only conclusion that can be reached.  When considering the act and the evidence given by the applicants against the submissions made by the ANC.