MS VAN DER WALT
No, I want to know what you mean in your amnesty application what appears here, because I am not confronting you now with what the other applicants say.  I am asking you a simple question from your own application.  I want to know from you what did you mean when you said regarding the first paragraph I read, because you put it in there, in the light of that, Phil Kloppers addressed us and gave us orders or instructions for the evening?