JOEL MHLAHLEMI SESHABA
Thank you.  These Toaster Gang members were such that one would not have approached them in case they did something bad or rob the community of something.  One would not have gone to them to request them to take those things back.  They used to take these things to Vusimosi Hostel, the base of the IFP and if one went there to enquire one would be asked to which party one belonged and if one said one belonged to the ANC one would not get those things back and one would not be able to come back to the township, instead one would be killed.  We used to report to the Tembisa Police Station about such problems and the police would tell us about the assortment of weapons that these gang members were having and they would arrest these gang members and these boys would later on in the evenings be released and we ended up not knowing what to do with them.  That is the reason why I shot Boy.