JACOBUS JOHANNES DE RU
The whole matter was investigated.  I can mention that according to the ballistic report, the 38 revolver they found two shells and two live rounds but according to the ballistic personnel, the forensic evidence, they did not find any residue on the hands of the deceased.  Could I just clear up a point here?  	Once again Fouche states that I would have given him an instruction that directly after he picked up the people he must take the people to fire shots in order for them to have gunpowder residue on their hands and that is confirmed by the forensic personnel saying that they did not find any gunpowder residue.  That is what I do not understand, but now it is clear to me that the people in the vehicle did not fire, that the fire or the shots were fired from the side of the shop without any instructions.  That is why I am in front of you today.  	It seems now that my instruction to shoot the people in the vehicle was a mistake.  At that stage I thought that the shots could only come from one place and that is from the vehicle because they were the only people who could have shot because none of the other backup groups had the instruction to fire, no one else could have fired, not even the people on the roof.  There was a specific instruction given that no one will shoot unless I shoot first.