UNKNOWN
Yes.  I'm putting to you the facts, Mr Jerling was not a member of the security forces and that will be the evidence that I will lead in a short while, not were the other people at the bar that evening, there were four or five other people present who were not members of the security forces.  So, I want to put to you - maybe I can just rephrase the question, your instructions or your intelligence or your information was hopelessly incorrect.