MS QUNTA
Mr Chairman, this is quite - I have information to the fact that - my instructions are and I got these instructions a few minutes ago, is that Mr Lubbe enquired from the witness, the number - he could not recall the number offhand and was given - Mr Lubbe had to prompt him for that number.  If you will allow me Mr Chairman, I can call witnesses to that effect - it the witness denies that, I will do that.