MR KAHANOVITZ
It was passed around, it wasn't really intelligible in the sense that we are talking about now, it didn't really, I didn't find it very useful to look at the diagram in order to understand the nature of the evidence that has been led now.  If we go there, what we want to know is where is the parking lot that Mr van Zyl is talking about, where does he say his car was parked?  If we don't know that, it is not going to be very meaningful.
	I don't know, if Mr Martini has some way of sorting that out without Mr van Zyl actually being present, well, good and well, but I am not sure how he is going to do that.