CHAIRPERSON
No, no. no. that's not the evidence.  The evidence was that after a number of delegations had been sent to look for this commissioner, unsuccessfully.   At one point this witness was a member of a delegation that was also sent to look for the commissioner.  They also didn't get him.  At some later stage they were delegated further to go and call Brig Gqozo to come and address the police in the college and that is how they went to wherever Brig Gqozo was living at the time.