MR NEMANE
Mr Chairman, I am not suggesting that it was not unlawfully removed from Mr Venter's house. I concede that. It is part of the evidence of the applicant.  But the theory that I am pursuing is that it seems, if you look at the evidence at the trial, and the theory that my learned friend seem to pursue before this Commission, is that the applicant acted for personal gain, and Mr Chairman, I am saying that how could a person remove, be involved in the removal of so many items alone, and only one or two items be found in his possession.  I concede that the furniture could not have been brought to the court, that the car could not have been brought to the court, but there was no suggestion at the trial that he might have sold the TV or whatever, Mr Chairman.