CHAIRPERSON
But the point that Mr Mamome is making is that it's not just that he would have heard of it but that they would have had to ask his permission before they carried out the operation, so it's not a question of saying: "Look it may of happened, I was not there I don't know".
	Mr Memani's point which he has made, he has put to the witness is: "If outsiders come into your area they should notify you and get your permission therefore you should remember.  That's you point isn't it, Mr Memani?