MR LAX
Yes, but it's clear from these documents before us and from the family's documentation, that their Oupa Ronald Madondo and the one that is being spoken about in these papers by Meyer and others, MacAdam and so on, is an MK operative.  He was a member of MK, he'd been out of the country and trained militarily.  Now the inference one draws from that is that the Madondo you have in mind is a different Madondo to this Madondo.  Would you concede that?