MR JANSEN
Now, I would like to refer you to a document which was read into the record during the proceedings of the Harms Commission.  Mr Chairman, if I could just explain.  What will be read into the record now is a directive relating to Vlakplaas of the 12th of September 1981 by, I think, General Coetzee.  But we do not have the actual document itself in our possession.  That was handed in as an exhibit during the Harms Commission, but we have not been able to get a copy of that.  But it was read into the record, and I will ask the witness to read from the evidence there relating to that document, and we will continue to try and get such a document for the Committee.