ANDRIES MOZIKEFANI GAMEDE
Yes, they said actually they went there to be trained.  Then let me talk about the perception again.  Was that I think it was a bit difficult, in Piet Retief majority of the community are ANC supporters.  Now, I think the intention was that these people must come to the township and cause havoc, but obviously when they went there and they were trained for military training, because when they were told that they were going into Gauteng to get jobs and when they entered Gauteng they were then told to go to the township to fight in the township in Gauteng, they then returned back to Piet Retief.