GEORGE BIZOS
Yes.  Mr Chairman, I wish to place on record that the witness from time to time has turned to his counsel to presumably ask for advice.  I have no quarrel with that, Mr Chairman, and I know my learned friend, he's a senior friend of the same Bar as I am, that he is entitled to be consulted and I don't mind that, but I would appeal to the witness that he should confine advice only on matters of law and not turn around on questions of fact.  Now on page 36 of bundle B, I want to read to you what Mr van Zyl says, the same Mr van Zyl, your co-applicant.
Perhaps I should start at the bottom of page 35, paragraph 68.
"Approximate a week after I had handed over the pills, I received a page message from Staal Burger to contact him at a number.  I contacted the number.  It was at the Milpark Holiday Inn.  Staal Burger then told me that I had to see him immediately.  I then went and saw Staal Burger at the abovementioned Holiday Inn at approximately half-past on p.m.  I also met Joe Verster and Christo Britz there with Staal Burger.  I think it was a Wednesday.  I was informed by Joe Verster that Anton Lubowski was expected from Windhoek the coming Saturday and would be expected in Cape Town.  I did not know Lubowski.  I was informed that Christo Britz would supply particulars to me the following day as to where Lubowski would deliver two speeches, namely one in Cape Town and one in Johannesburg.  My instruction from Joe Verster was to monitor Peaches during his visit to the Republic of South Africa.  He had to collect information with regard to persons whom Lubowski had met and places that he visited."
Now in order to place this in relation to time, this was at or about the time that pills were being arranged for Minister Dullah Omar in order to kill him.  Will you accept that, that this was the period that Mr van Zyl is speaking about?