GARY JOHN KRUSER
My lord, I'm sorry, Mr Chairman, when I felt that life and limb not only of myself but my fellow guards and comrades and also the building was under attack, it was not about the access it's about protecting firstly my life and the lives of the members of the ANC in the building and the leadership of the building.  If I allowed, if I retreated to the front of the building, a crowd of that size and magnitude with the type of weapons among that crowd, I think the tally, the death tally would have been much higher not only from their side at the doors but we also would have suffered quite a few casualties from our side.  The front entrance of Shell House is protected by ordinary glass door, a crowd of a thousand to storm down a door of that nature I think it's common cause what would have happened if a thousand people stormed those doors down and we were inside with AK47's - what would be the nature of death on both sides and injuries I think.