TESTIMONY_GIVER:
 Well, the old man that was stabbed - I didn't know the man, I didn't see the man, but once I had been taken to the trauma unit at the hospital my parents - my mom came round to see me, and while she was sitting in the waiting room a very old lady, she must have been in her eighties, came in and she said to my mom, "Ah, you know, I've got a call from the hospital to say my husband's here."  She says, "I just wish he could go to the bank without tripping and falling or something, because it always happens that I've got to go and collect him from the