MR MAY
And then when the trial was over I went to stay in Port Elizabeth and most of the COSAS leadership at this stage was out of prison.  And at the beginning of 1982 we started to regroup again and form - established COSAS branches again.   And then in February I went to Johannesburg I  attended the funeral of Neil Agget who was - who died in detention at that stage.
 There were about five of us from Port Elizabeth.  After the funeral of Neil Agget we went to Brandford to visit Ms Mandela's place.  We were supposed to have a meeting there but the meeting couldn't take place because some of the delegates didn't arrive.  Whilst we were leaving Brandfort we were detained in Brandfort by the security branch there and then we were kept in the cells for a about two days.
 And then during the week I think on Monday or Tuesday they released us saying that the reason why they detained us, we were cheeky we didn't answer the questions they wanted us to answer.  Then when I arrived in Port Elizabeth about two weeks - after about two weeks in the middle of the night some people knocked at the door at my home.
 And then my brother answered the door and then some people came in, they said they are looking for Mr May, when he said he was Mr May they said no we are not looking for you, we are looking for your brother.  So he - they woke me up and took me to Sanlam police cells in Port Elizabeth, and then there were about four policemen.
 I recognized Mr Bahlekazi Zitongata and also there was Roelofse as well.  So they took me to the cells, and then they wanted to know about our visit to Brandfort and my activities in Queenstown and Port Elizabeth which I told them.  And then they wanted to know why did we visit Brandfort, I told them we were suppose to have a meeting but it didn't take place.
 And then they asked if I could be their informer, and then  I would be paid for that but I said to them I was not looking for employment.  I was a student so I cannot I mean do that kind of a thing.  And besides I was part of COSAS leadership so if I could attempt to implicate some other leaders of COSAS that would mean implicating myself as well so I could not do such that kind of a thing.
 And then Mr Roelofse said to me that do you see we have done to Siphiwo Mthimkulu, he can't do anything now he is just useless.  And if you do not want to work with us we are going to do the same thing to you. Then  I said to them, well I'm used to being tortured and I'm used to being I mean detained so there's nothing that can make me  - I mean work for them at this stage.
 So they said okay they will deal with me and then they released me at the early hours of the day.  And then after about two weeks I heard from other COSAS members that there was a receipt that was found at the place we used to frequent in New Brighton, Port Elizabeth.  And this receipt had my name on it and a certain amount of R500,00 or R600,00 which to some other people meant that maybe I was a paid up police informer.
 So there was some kind of a division within COSAS some other people wanted to believe it and some other people didn't want to believe it.  They were saying that how would they would go and drop a receipt at that place where they know that I mean everybody used to go there and it's where when we want to have some meetings we'd start and proceed to a place where we would meet.
 And then I  couldn't get hold of the receipt and I couldn't challenge that in Court.  But  just decided to not to be involved to any political activity at that stage until I could have a chance of proving to the public that what they did was blackmail me.  Because they couldn't convince me or make me to be their informer so they resorted to blackmail.  I didn't have a chance of - is of  proving  that to the public.
 But now I've decided to take up this opportunity that has been created by establishment of the Truth Commission to tell the public that the police blackmailed me because I refused to be their informer, thank you.