MS LUCAS
The police - when they - when they police came to look for Mike, they would come in a convoy which would fill the whole of Bhongolethu, when they entered - when Captain Marx entered, you must huddle into any corner, because you couldn't  - the police didn't even want you to look at them, your house would be turned upside down and they would leave no stone unturned and then you would have to pick up the pieces afterwards.
 They way Marx talked I wouldn't come anywhere near  because sometimes he would say, staan soontoe, stand this way,  I remember the last time when Mike was taken they woke me up whilst I was still in bed.  They  were rushing me around they were turning everything upside down in the house.  They didn't respect any place, you couldn't even ask what they were looking for, you just have to look at them all the time.