THULASIZWE RAPHAEL DLAMINI
We don't with certainty, I must concede, know exactly what happened, what Pat did, because there was no direct evidence in that regard.  I submit that the fact that the,  that the evidence was to the effect that Pat chased after them quickly, within a relatively short period of time, gunfire was heard, and thereafter Pat spoke to the applicant, and indicated that he caught up with the persons and did so in such a manner, that the applicant realised that the persons had been killed by Pat.
	I would submit that is enough to indicate that the probabilities at least are that the persons were killed in association with that act, ie the pointing out and setting Pat and his comrades off in that direction.