NICHOLAS JACOBUS JANSE VAN RENSBURG
No I don't know.  When Mr du Plessis and Mr Raath picked him up from Jeffrey's Bay what Mr du Plessis or he and Mr Raath had told me Kondile.  They picked me up on their way at Port Elizabeth.  I suspect I probably asked Mr du Plessis is this person calm, is he satisfied, and Mr du Plessis could have told me, yes I shouldn't worry about that, this is what I think happened.  But during our journey to Komatipoort I had the impression that this person did not suspect anything.