MR VISSER
Okay, so we're talking about you, okay?  And Mr Wills continues
"Now can you estimate her height in relation to Mrs Masetla?"
that is now Ntombi's height.  He says:
"Is she a similar size?"
then he says:
"Our evidence is to the effect that she was a similar height, specifically height to Mrs Masetla."
Now that's not entirely correct, because you told us that Ntombi Kubheka was slightly taller than you, one to two centimetres, is that correct?