MR DIALE
I want to answer that question, even if that is not my say, it was from my chairperson, but I can give an answer to that.  During the meeting - the chairman of the Phiri called that meeting.  He had been left or he had been elected by the chief to be the council for the Baphokeng tribe. I am referring to Mr Dumagole.  He was the chairman by then and he was representing the chief.