MR MOHLABA
And Madame Chair the intention of the applicant in firing at those people was to kill them.  The exact location where this incident took place is in the vicinity of the shopping complex next to a four way stop which is found at the entrance as one enters Sangweni Section in Tembisa.  This incident took place at approximately 19H00, applicant is not aware of or he does not recall the early date nor does he recall the exact month, he however mentioned that it was on or about September 1993.