MR PRETORIUS
Mr Zuma, can you in any way explain and maybe I should use my arms to indicate to you because it does not seem to me you understand the ninety degrees.  Can you in any way explain that if I point the way, the direction my right hand is pointing now, in your direction and you see it and you see that I fired a firearm, an AK47 in that direction, how I can hit the parapet of a building which is five metres high and directly towards - would my left arm where I am pointing now - that is in ninety degrees towards the left, approximately five metres in the air.  Can you explain that to the Chairman?