ERNEST PHUMUZI SIGASA
Well firstly, firstly the Security personnel as we indicated, they work seven days a week, every day, and on Saturdays they meet to hand in reports and so on and so forth, their daily duties and so forth, and after that of course, they would go for the dining and so on, for lunches and so on.  We had that information.
	As to who and how many, we didn't know that, but we knew that there were Policemen, particularly the senior people, meeting in that.  Secondly, on that day, we also indicated in our main submission that it was in fact a commemoration of the anniversary of the South African Communist Party on the 30th of July.