MR TLOUBATLA
Mr Chairman, what I was still saying was that there are two separate acts, one committed in July, the other one committed in August.  Mr Hlasa is not involved in the act that was committed in August, I beg your pardon, that is in July, he was only involved in the murder, in the act that was committed in August.
	And the act that was committed in August was, they were all involved.  The three applicants were all involved in that act.  I wonder whether I'm making myself clear, that is the killing of some young members SOSCO or UDF, something of that nature.  The three of them were involved in that act.  It's just that Mr Hlasa is not involved in the killing of the security man, that is the only thing that he is not involved in.
	According to my preparation Mr Chairman, is that I was going to start with Mr Mphoreng, to lead him and in fact I don't think that there would be any difference if all of them were involved in the same thing Mr Chairman.