CHAIRPERSON
Mr Ameen you will appreciate that this aspect is of some importance, with regard to the proposition that you made.  You made to the applicants yesterday or day before, you suggested to them that they are only incriminating or mentioning the name of Sam and Tamee because they are dead so it would appear that in fact the name of Sam was mentioned, not for the first time at this proceedings, but most probably as long ago as when, at the very least, the indictment was put up.