MR KRUSE
You have a very selective memory, but any way, that was the modus operandi of the Security Branch.
	You would be tortured by Jeffery Benzien, Goosen and Liebenberg, from there you are handed to people who are not based in Cape Town, most of the times, there are two people, one would be very harsh, one would be soft.	And from time to time, when you don't cooperate, you will appear at the door, is that true or not?