KOBUS DU PLESSIS
Mr Chairman, since I have, I became aware of the fact that people are saying that shots was fired from a helicopter, I had a look at this for instances, and three of the four, we have a downwards trajectory but it's horizontal downwards.  In one instance, in one instance we have a trajectory where a person was shot in the shoulder area and the bullet went straight down.
 Now with regard to this aspect, bearing in mind the fact that the investigation determine that a lot of people were lying down or bending, I really don't think we can arrive to a conclusion that this person was by any means shot from above, out of a chopper and not, under the circumstances, the other people were shot by.  I have not made an analysis of the wounded persons, so I think what I can say is that out of the deceased, my analysis of the deceased, there is only in one case where I would say yes, a person could have been shot from above, out of  ... end of Tape 2, side B ... 29 deceased but bearing in mind that a lot of persons were shot while they were lying down or perhaps running in a bent position and I, at this stage, feel that there is not enough evidence here to conclude that this person was shot from above.  He could have been shot under other circumstances too.