MR BLACK
Well, he says he did not see anyone, he was not aware of any incident.   Now it's not quite clear where this incident - according to Mr O'Farrell, it took place, there were two incidents:  the first incident when he was leaving and going away, or according to him, attempting to shoot, and then the gun was taken out of his hand;  the incident where he was actually seriously assaulted, took place at a later stage when - there's no, at that stage, I don't know where Mr Sambo was, but he says he didn't witness any assault.