CHAIRPERSON
Well what are the probabilities, what do you say about the probabilities?  The probabilities that he shot there in order to arrest them and therefore commit a political act or did he shoot to really defend himself without any intention of making the arrest because it was unlikely that that kind of arrest would be successful and it was unlikely that somebody in the applicant's position would even have thought that he could make a successful arrest in those circumstances.  That's what concerns me.