DR BORAINE
Chairperson in welcoming everybody here today I would like to make special mention of Dr and Mrs Arwag, very pleased to see them here tonight, Noreen and Frans, and also Mr Vardi and Mr Chiba who are members of Parliament in the National Assembly.  Dr Kiesner I gather is also here, I haven't personally seen where he is sitting but wherever you are you are very welcome also.
 Chairperson the first witness for the second day of the third sitting of the Commission is Mrs Marina Geldenhuys and I will ask her please to take the witness stand.
 Marina I am very pleased to welcome you to the Commission hearings.  You are the first this morning.  In one way that means you don't have to sit and wait and wait and wait, on the other hand it's perhaps a little more nervous for you to be right at the very beginning.  So let me ask you to please relax and just take it easy.  Can you hear my voice?  Can you hear the translations?  Thank you very much indeed.  I am not sure who is sitting with you?