BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
Mr Visser, isn't that what he said?  I mean, he said I was - I'm saying that is what he told us, he said he was arrested on several occasions.
	"Were you tortured every time"? - "Yes"
	"Were Ngo and Motsamai always there"? - "Yes"
So he has told us that he was assaulted on many occasions.