MR WILLS
Yes, thank you.  Now Mr Luthuli has given evidence about his involvement in the plans to basically assist you to evade arrest when it became evident that you were going to be arrested.  But prior to that there was an incident which I think is relevant for the Committee's purposes, whereby you were transferred to Nquthu police station from Esikhawini.  Now was this a normal transfer, or can you explain how it came about?