FERDINAND BARNARD
Yes Chairperson.   I was busy with my activities in South-West Africa and then after the Lubowski incident, I was tasked to kill Daniel Tjongarero, I would be the person to kill him.
	I will testify about this when we come to the cross-border involvement.  Just to give you a preamble to the events, at a certain stage Kobus le Roux came to me and he said that Tjongarero was no longer the target, and that it had changed to Hidipo Hamutenya and that I had to travel back to Pretoria, and come and speak to him there, and then I would have to be redeployed to South-West Africa.
	What took place then was that I flew over here, and that I came to see him and the thing boiled over into a number of weeks.  I left my vehicle at the airport there and then the thing with Slang van Zyl arose to send me on the first Omar excursion in July, and I did so.  After I spoke to Kobus le Roux, I said "listen, how does this thing with Hamutenya look" and he said that they were waiting for certain detailed information still.
	I told him that there was something else that I was going to be involved in and he assured me that I could continue, but that I should remain in contact, which I did.  I came over here and then for a second time again, and then it happened that Anton Lubowski was shot in South-West Africa.  There was no way that I would return.  I arranged with Kobus le Roux for the vehicle to be fetched there and brought back to South  Africa.  It stood on the airport for months, however.