CHAIRPERSON
Just let's ...[inaudible] one thing clear for me - when a question is put to you, you can either deny it to say it didn't happen or you say I can't remember.  When you say you can't remember it means that it may well have happened but you have no recollection of it.  Now you've given us answers to say you can't remember, do you understand?  Now I'm giving you a chance, are you going to say that this did not happen or is it that you can't remember it happening?