CHAIRPERSON
Good morning.  We want to start the proceedings.  For the formalities, just for the record, today is Thursday 3rd February 2000.  This is a hearing of the Amnesty Committee being held at Bisho.  The Panel is chaired by myself, my name is Denzil Potgieter and I'm assisted by Advocate Sandi and Mr Sibanyoni.  We have on the roll the amnesty applications of V A Mkosana, amnesty reference number AM4458/96 and M T Gonya, amnesty reference AM7882/97.  These two applications relate to what has commonly become known as the Bisho shooting or the Bisho Massacre.  That is the matter we have before us.  Yes, Mr Mapoma, I assume that the applicants are both present?