ADV TEE
Now, Mr Chair, I have dealt with that.  What I am submitting is that if one reads the record he was starting to get confused at that stage of the questions from Mr Black as to the general and the specific order and if one reads the record again it becomes quite clear if one keeps in mind  that he had started to get confused, because it is true, it is true that he did say at one stage, yes, the name came from Hani, but he was backed into a corner.