MR ZWANE
I will not deny that.  It is very clear that nobody would plead guilty to anything.  We would all like to plead not guilty and absolve ourselves of any crimes that we have committed, that is what is happening with those police.  But they chased me out of the police station and thereafter the Black Cats came out of the very same police station, so you can make your own conclusions.  They knew that what they were not doing was not lawful, that is why they would deny it.