MR VISSER
Paragraph 13 on page 148 Mr Motsamai refers to the fact that he was involved in assaults and torturing of detainees or arrested political activists and he states that these assaults and torturings took place at the offices of the Internal Safety Unit on the 5th floor of the building in Fontein Street Bloemfontein.  If I try to tie this up with an incident of which we are aware, we return to the incident of the Group of 19 of Bloemfontein.  Are you aware, were there any complaints or allegations that you are aware of that Mr Motsamai assaulted members of that group?