MS THABETE
M for mother.  And the matter of Mosolesi Bigman Nhlakasa and that of Matembe Nglongo.  I'm going to also suggest that we postpone those matters because in the matter of Mkukwana we could not - we did not access to getting the court record.  As a result we did not know who the victims are unfortunately the applicant doesn't know who the victims are as well.  After receiving the information that we can't get hold of the court record we arranged that a notice be made, a public notice be made in the newspaper and on the radio, Radio Zulu and Leseti but it was not made timeously.  As a result we want to afford an opportunity for the victims to respond failing which we will set down the matter again to be heard in the near future.
	Regarding the matter of Mosolesi Bigman Nhlakasa we also had problems or our investigators also had problems tracing Joseph Mtunsi's next of kin, Joesph Mtunsi was killed in this incident.  As a result of the fact that they could not trace the next of kin of the victim we did a public advertisement on the paper and on the radio which appeared late, that's why Mashaia who gave the order is deceased.