MS VAN DER WALT
Mr Cronin, you were referred to page 43 of R5, the last paragraph I think - if I could just get the document, I just wish to ascertain whether I have the right document - paragraph.
	Just a moment please Mr Chair. 
It is page 43, the second paragraph.  Mr Prinsloo dealt with this paragraph with you and you have it, is that correct? - page 43.  I would like to put it to you that you make a statement that during the negotiations there were negotiations above the table while under the table people were kicking at you, is that correct?