MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, this is a similar application by Mr Wasserman.  Unfortunately you would have to refer to two bundles in order to find the complete part of his application, relevant to the present application.
	That is the Zandile bundle 1 at page 112 to, well it runs on to page 125.  Thank you Mr Chairman, I appreciate that.  No, it is further than that,  it starts at page 112 Mr Chairman and it runs on.
	The second - oh, I am sorry, 135, I heard 125, sorry Mr Chairman my Attorney says 125, I misheard.  I heard 135.  Mr Chairman, the other bundle is the Bhila bundle, at page 28.  Sorry page 44, it is the typed page 28.  It has been a long day Mr Chairman, page 44 and following.  The witness is ready to take the oath Mr Chairman