CHAIRPERSON
Where is that evidence, Mr Oosthuizen?   Are you not leading him?   We don't have the evidence that there was any instructions from Mr - and it's Mrs Mbuyazi - to him, that's why I was asking him whether he himself decided to go to Bushbuck Ridge on that Thalede issue.   We don't have any evidence that he was ever given any instructions by Mrs Mbuyazi.   You are asking a leading question.