EUGENE DE KOCK
Yes.  He then in turn told me that this coup attempt could not be seen as a failure, that it was not futile, that there were still four people with guns, magazines and grenades who would make a further attempt to topple the government of Holomisa.  The weaponry that he referred to was apparently the same weaponry that we have retrieved earlier that day for Duli.  Commandant Nieuwoudt mentioned this to me.