CARL CASTELING BOTHA
Mr Bizos it may be so, once again it may be so, but unfortunately I cannot shed light on that.  If you have asked me if possibly shouldn't they have been killed but my opinion doesn't mean anything because it wasn't my project.  I did not make the recommendation.  If you ask me it in 14 different ways wouldn't it have been better and with each one I say yes, it's got no influence on me.