CHAIRPERSON
I don't know if you can answer this, Mr McBride.  This Why Not and magoo's bar at the time, okay we've heard they're action bars and there's some jazz music and background music and that sort of stuff, would one have to pay a cover charge to get into one of the bars?  In other words, if I went in those days to the Why Not bar, could I have a beer there and then walk across the passage and mingle in the magoo's bar and come to and fro, or would I have to pay a cover charge each time?