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Sir I can assure you that afterwards I heard that the Attorney General wanted to charge some of the policemen for negligence because we didn't repair that hole in the fence.  Now I don't know, the little bit I know about the law I don't know of any such offence, but there again I can only say, and I have really tried to be as straightforward, and I have always tried to be honest, why it wasn't repaired I don't know.  But I have also said in memo here that the government of Ciskei was adamant that the people shouldn't be allowed to go into Bisho.  So the hole in the fence or where it was trampled down the previous time didn't come into the picture, it didn't mean a thing.  The
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other reason for the razor wire there, as I have explained the previous march the people moved forward, every time Antonie Gildenhuys ran up to the officers to negotiate the people went forward, and in the end they were amongst the policemen and that is why we decided okay, put the wire fence there, the razor fence there, it is some help.  It doesn't always help but sometimes it does.  But as far as the hole is concerned in the fence Sir I can't give you any reply.  I know there has been speculation that it was left there on purpose, I don't think that is the case Sir.