CHAIRPERSON
Yes, like you say Mr Shiceka has publicly conveyed his apologies.  On another level though, I'm beyond that level on a person to person level, normally the Committee doesn't get involved.  Normally the representative of the applicant and the leader of evidence, if an applicant wants to meet with the family it is done extra curially and that could be done during our adjournment.
	And don't we have a representative of some sorts here, Reparations Committee or something or the briefer?