JUDGE MGOEPE
I do not have the copy of the judgment here, Mr de Ru.  I read from paragraph eight and the following that, it reads,
"During Mr de Ru's first trial his defence was simply that he had at all times acted in accordance with the provisions of section (this and that) but that he was being framed by members"
and the word framed is being underlined, 
"..that he was being framed by members of the Security Police because of his investigation into the so-called Three Million gang".
What I want to know from you is whether it is true that during the trial you said that you had been framed by members of the Security Police?  Did you say that during the trial?