MR VISSER
Yes, Mr Motsamai.  Can I put this to you, that Mr Ngo, in bundle C, page 12, in (c), Mr Chairman, (a), (b), (c), stated in his application that he was present when the clinic of Mrs Winnie Mandela in Brandfort was attacked and in which he stated that Warrant Officer Ramosoeu had, on that occasion, threw an incendiary device which he explained, in his evidence, to be a grenade into the clinic which caused it to catch fire and to burn.  Now, I am just giving you the background, because I am now going to ask you a question in regard to that.
	Were you ever present in an attack on the clinic of Mrs Winnie Mandela when a grenade was used to set it alight and where Mr Ngo was present?