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Well it's relevant in the sense that at the end of the day we're going to argue that it wasn't a single incident in isolation and we're also going to argue that he's not telling the truth about his knowledge of the existence of the five point plan and we're going to argue that it's a far more logical and plausible inference to be drawn that such plan existed, and I'm putting to him the reason why we're going to say that, for his comment.