FERDINAND BARNARD
I cannot recall that.  The essence of her evidence was that I monitored Dr Webster's house, that I took her with sometimes, that I shot Dr Webster dead, that I used a certain vehicle, that I made a report to her and so forth.   Perhaps you are driving at the idea that I wanted to impress Joe Verster and that she said that I wanted to do something about the organisation.
	If she says that, I don't know where she has that from.  But I wouldn't tell her, my girlfriend, who I am trying to impress, that I am trying to impress somebody else by shooting somebody dead, that does not make sense.