MR STEENKAMP
I think the impression that I got from the information is that the MK or the struggle, the just war, actually did the same thing, they attacked people or innocent people and obviously, according to this statement - I'll make a copy available to you, there was at one stage - and this document has been published in 1985, maybe I misunderstood you.  In 1986, exactly the 5th of October 1986, was there then a change in ANC policy from your side?