GEORGE BIZOS
But if my memory serves me correctly, by '89 this campaign had really taken off, there were meetings at various places quite openly declaring "We will not join the Army" and they were burning their call-up papers publicly and they were making rude remarks about the Minister of Defence and the Generals.  It wasn't a small secret organisation, it went public.  Was it not a matter of grave concern to you and didn't you discuss it with Verster?