MR ZILWA
No I'm not, I'm just trying to indicate to the Committee why I'm calling the next witness that I'm going to call.  I don't know if it's necessary, I just wanted the Committee not to be taken by surprise to know that I'll be calling someone who was in the leadership of the ANC in the area under which this SDU fell, just to give us an indication of what the feeling was with relation to this incident.