BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
Alright, I will, let us, to save time, let us provisionally accept that is 40 metres.  During the adjournment you can take Mr Shwakane to that gate and he can ascertain the distance and if there are problems about that you will tell us.  Let us provisionally accept that is 40 metres.  Now, that, is that the place where you ran to after attacking the house?