ZUKILE MBAMBO
This is so sir.  Mr Bandazayo got our statements from the Police yes, as he was the one who was representing us during our bail application at the court in East London, and secondly Mr Bandazayo, we used to discuss with him at prison, he knows fully that those are lies.  Even if he did not get access to those statements from the Police, he knew very well that we had talked lies in the statements.