MR VAN DER BERG
Chairperson, with all due respect, no.  The reason is simply the following.  A person cannot say okay, here is a war situation whilst the people are lying there defenceless.  Everything is under control and then a person comes from the outside, runs and shoots these people and says, that is fine, that was war.
	Maybe the war was only coming from his side, but there wasn't a war situation prevailing.  Those people were disarmed, they couldn't defend themselves.  To which war can he be referring if two of them are injured and one person is dead, then you can't even speak about a fight situation.