MR MALAN
Mr Maseko, it's time to break for tea, let me put this statement again to you for your comment and this was the only statement that I made and I make it again.  I'm saying, in terms of your evidence if in all your operations you would have been successful in only retrieving amounts up to R500 per exercise, per operation, then no monies would have ever been paid over but you would have continued with the operations simply reporting the operations.  I'm asking, is that assessment correct, that's my question, I'm stating it again.