MATTHEW GWALA
All the evidence that Gushu rendered with regard to the VAT boycott, that is a blue lie because he never did that.  He never at any stage advocated for the payment of VAT.  Maybe Gushu could tell us more with regard to that.
	I think Gushu has got a personal problem with Advice Gwala because Gushu knew my brother very well but all of a sudden when he renders his evidence he claims that he never knew my brother.  
	That is what makes me believe that the there was absolutely no political motive or objective because if Gushu said he was sent by a political group because maybe they feared that he was going to rally people to join Inkatha, but now he's talking about VAT matters and he testified to the effect that he does not know Advice Gwala, that's a blue lie.