CHAIRPERSON
Before you answer that.  The passed two or three questions bothered me a bit precisely in the way that Mr Booyens is saying.  I appreciate that you are entitled to put questions as I understand most of them, to put questions to the witness about the modus operandi as to how they operated, which would be general questions.
	But the minute you condescend to a particular issue and try to deal with that, we may have some problems, unless you are about to say to us that your client's application in respect of for example the Swaziland operation, is also before us, which is not the case.
	And I think to that extent there is merit in his argument, but without of course, we don't want to stop you from asking questions about how the Security Police generally operated or in particular possibly between the two of them, your client and the witness.
	With regard to the other, you can reply with regard to the other aspect.