MR PIENAAR
Well if one probably - if one sees it as black people being employed in a way with - without being trained with shotguns, with tear gas canisters, with sjamboks and batons,  and literally let loose to walk a ground as a group as they did in - in Bhongolethu and what came out of that.  
 I would think it definitely helped or pushed violence from black people to black people - especially in Bhongolethu where many of the - of the kitskonstabels of the time as I understood, subject to being corrected, but I understood that a number of them actually came from the area and were then re-deployed.
 But often it also seemed to be that they were people who without employment in any event and they would then earn a salary  of R400-00 a month - get a place to  stay, be given power.  So they were in some way maybe also victims of circumstance there.  But I would think the thinking behind taking in the kitskonstabels that one needs to call Adriaan Vlok to come and answer and find out exactly how these arrangements were made and how the decisions were taken.