MR COETZEE
Mr Chairman, I have been instructed and the evidence had been that what they were going to do there, was to carry out a reconnoitring or a reconnaissance, and that if as they had been given to understand, it wasn't clearly stated but if it was easy to obtain firearms there without excessive risk, the arms would then be obtained.
	The applicants understood that this could also involve the commission of a crime, because it is clear that they had common cause in this.  It was clear that they were prepared to rub shoulders with the law.
	Considering this situation, I am sure that the applicants did not believe in the light of the fact that this was a military base, they believed that the action was justified and that it wouldn't have been an unlawful act.  It was clear that whatever action they would have been involved in, it would have either been trespassing or theft or it could have also been a robbery.