MR SMUTS
Mr Chairman, the application that we have before us, has a reference number AM7207/97.  This document has a reference number 5206/97.  If one looks at the Hermans application reference number that is 5206/97, which is one before in serial, the document which has now been placed before the Committee, so there may have been documents submitted at that stage, but somehow there is another application, which is the one we were advised is before this Committee, and in that phraseology and averments, are different.