UNKNOWN
Mr Wagner, could I ask you, what is the intention of appearing in terms of section 19(4).  You've received a notice saying you are implicated.  Is your intention to come and oppose the application of Mr Coetzee to prove him to be an untruthful witness, or is your intention to come and put - whilst you have applied for amnesty - to make a statement to protect your client's rights and say well, I don't agree with what he is saying and I want to make it known that I don't agree for purposes of my own application.