MR NEMANE
Mr Chairman, if I may be of assistance, in respect of the charge of murder on the indictment, the applicant was convicted of attempted murder.  In respect of the attempted murder on Patrick Pahlane he was duly convicted of attempted murder.  In the, on the count of arson he was convicted of malicious damage to property on the shop of Mr Pahlane and there is the malicious damage to property, that is count five now on the indictment.  That relates to the malicious damage of the, to the vehicle of Edward Pahlane, the son of the deceased Susan Pahlane and he was also convicted of assault and it is not clear to me whether it was assault GBH or assault common, but it would appear that he was convicted of assault GBH.