MAPULE RAMASHALA
I want to just read a few things that we've gathered in our information and get your opinion on that.  Okay this was from an interview, not a recorded interview, so I don't hold you on it.
"Mr Barnard was a brutal killer.  He was a shooter, a stealthy operator, not like an SB using electric shocks, not that kind of brutal, he was the nice guy, cold, smiling killer".
Do you agree with that?