W RIAAN BELLINGAN
I will have to go and see if he came, if he was with the previous group, because I hear that he says that Mamasela was together with him.  I have no knowledge of this, I cannot vouch for the previous groups.  He was not there with me.  He was there with me in February.  Whether it was the first or the second infiltration, if we had the records we could look at this, because we had a register in Vlakplaas for every month when you were booked out and together with whom you were booked out, which vehicles were involved and weapons involved.  Unfortunately, that register no longer exists, so I cannot comment on this.