MR HATTINGH
Well just to respond to that, Mr Chairman, the applicant started out with an alibi, he pleaded an alibi, all the state witnesses were cross-examined and an alibi was put to all the state witnesses and once the applicant commenced his evidence the alibi suddenly went out of the window and he suddenly placed himself on the scene.  So the alibi is, the applicant at the time of the criminal trial chose to relinquish his alibi and in fact place himself on the scene.