COLLEEN JUDY WHITE
No.  We would talk to each other and I'd say - I'm not talking about that particular conversation, but in prior conversations I'd say: "Mike, what is going on because Janine has phoned again and she's making threats again" you know, that kind of thing, and he would say to me: "Don't worry about it, just ignore it."  I'm talking about that kind of conversation.  And that for me was exact, the exact same thing for me that happened that night.  I did not take that conversation very seriously.