J A MKHWANAZI
I tried to check those.  Mzwandile Gushu was brought to me by JJ Mabena and I asked JJ to confirm Mzwandile with the structure where he was actually coming from, where Mzwandile Gushu was coming from.  And the way - when I was training him, I realised that he was not, he was experienced in using the firearm, he was ready.  So it was just a refresher course.