MR SHEZI
Mr Chairman, it might be difficult for one to comment on the merits or the demerits or the extent of the hatred that Nofomela might have against de Kock, but the fact that de Kock was the Commander of the unit, he was in charge of it and that such a mission was going to be carried out involving the use of this AK, on its own indicates that de Kock ought to have known and must have been there and also to say Nofomela would rather implicate himself merely to get back at de Kock, I submit Mr Chairman that that kind of an argument from de Kock's side and his witnesses is just not persuasive enough, that Nofomela would just, you know when he has nothing to lose by not bringing an application, when there is nothing to lose, when he knows that he was not involved, if he himself was not even there, or rather come and place himself on an incident totally unrelated to him and say yes, I was there and de Kock was there.  I submit Mr Chairman, that that does not have any merit.