MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, yes clearly no research in the sense of documentary research could be done and in that sense it's an unfortunate choice of word, but one must not depart from the proposition that at the time when they hurriedly filed their application a day before the cut-off date in 1996 in December, that they knew nothing about this incident.  What they told you in their evidence was that sure, we remembered the incidents but we had difficulty in placing the incident in context with the correct personalities,  That was their problem, so instead of taking a chance as it were and giving you facts at the time, at the time which may turn out later, they simply said, "we will research the matter" well his attorney said "we will research the matter".  What does that mean?  It means, we will see whether we can sort out exactly what happened in this incident and who was involved.  Now the only research they could possibly have done was to talk to each other about it, Mr Chairman and to talk to Mr Taylor about it and this they say they did.  That's the research they're talking about, with respect.