ADV STEENKAMP
No, no, no, Sir, my question is, you told the Supreme Court specifically on page 36 that you were never on the scene, that would be your testimony, is that correct?  Is that what you said to the Court, because this is part of the record?  Now my question to you is you lied to the Supreme Court.  I can maybe just ask you the follow-up question, are you also applying for perjury for when you testified in the Supreme Court or not or are you also applying for amnesty?