TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  The police came.  They collected the ashes.  They came with certain plastics, they collected my mother ashes as well as her feet, and we also went into the bedroom.  We collected my father's bones as well as the ashes.  They were put in separate plastics and they wrote outside that this is my mother and the other plastic was my father.  These were taken to the mortuary.  And they were buried at Umzimkulu.  We buried the ashes. The other thing that I would like to say to you is many are times when people are in your position, a position of responsibility.  Because of the responsibilty that you have you don't realise how traumatised you were and traumatised you still are.  We are very surprised that today you are sitting here.  You look quite healthy, and you can still relate and talk about your parents' death.  It means something within you gives you courage, you've got an anchor.  You've got some inner strength that keeps you going and makes you able to talk about this, and we thank you very much.