MR VISSER
Yes.   He actually asked me that, at one stage, that he wanted to go and draw the money on behalf of Mr Roodt, so I said to him, "Look, the cheque has already been banked", as I said in my application, "on the 30th of March", and if you look at the normal banking procedure, a cheque is cleared within seven days, and by now the people in question, or the holder of the cheque would surely have advised the company that he did not receive the cheque and that it will be a very dangerous, it would put himself into great danger to go to the bank and draw the money, because the cheque would have been, it's very much possible, because it took such a long time for them to make a decision to that point to withdraw the money.