MR HUGO
Thank you Mr Chairman.  Just a few aspects.  Mr Bellingan, you refer, in the exposition of your background, you refer to the elimination aspect which we have addressed previously.  Mr de Kock compiled a statement referring to your exposition and he refers specifically to the word "elimination" and he says that his perception is that the instruction was not that these people should be killed bona fide and he said that in every operation where Vlakplaas was involved it was considered thoroughly and it was done on behalf of instructions received from senior officers.  Targets were evaluated, discussed and clearings for these targets were obtained from senior officers on a continuous basis.  Is that correct?