ABRAM VAN ZYL
If that is true, I should not know about it.  That is the interpretation of Mr Barnard in his statement and I can tell you that I met Ferdi, I only gave him instruction which he received in a post box with money, and if he received instructions from Lafras Luitingh, also to work on Mr Dullah Omar, then I do not have any knowledge of it, he never mentioned it to me.