MR KAHANOVITZ
I am also putting it to you that the reason that you know that you can no longer claim ignorance about the burning of Anton Roskam's car and Region 6's involvement in that, is that you are now aware that it was found in the trial against Ferdi Barnard, that that was a Region 6 project and that Mr Burger and Mr Botha were responsible, sorry Mr Barnard and Botha were responsible?