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I didn't get those details because though they were saying that his case was going to sit in Port Elizabeth, we were given the dates, but they said me and my husband were going to be given train tickets.  The people who would be transported in vans, would be the people who would be testifying, the people who would be witnesses.
 What I said, the very same people who took my child, they must also bring him again and I am not going to take a train, I am also going to take a van, because my son was taken in a van, so I am also going to take the same van.
 We got into the van and we went to Port Elizabeth.  I don't know what is it that they said, because they didn't ask anything, they didn't mention any attorney.  This is where I learnt that the courts are full of corruption, because there are children who weren't there who were witnesses.
 Those who would be testifying against us, they had a 
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right to be protected.  We were told that the case was closed.  We didn't hear anything, they didn't ask us anything as the parents, they didn't even attempt to get the teachers who were teaching my child at school and get evidence that my child was attending school.  They just discussed alone with Fishart.
 Even Fishart was not given any information.