MR MBANDAZAYO
Mr Buthelezi, you have heard Mr Malefane testifying here before this Committee, telling the Committee about his meeting with Mabena at former, the late President of PAC's welcome party  ...(indistinct).  Can you tell the Committee what do you know about Mabena yourself, whether this person was a member of PAC or not or role, in capacity was he in PAC, if he was a member of PAC or APLA?