MR KAKANA
One of my family members was found in, near a soccer veld in 1985, but I do not remember the month.  He was stabbed and he died there.  We heard in the afternoon that the son was dead, he was stabbed.  We did not know who stabbed him.  Xolisile Stemele came and said we must open a case, but we did not know who stabbed him.  At the time of the funeral, we buried him.  Our church, our congregation, the Methodist Church did not take part in the funeral, but we, up until today we do not know the reason for that.
 As the time went by we stayed at home.  We did not isolate ourselves from the people, we were amongst the people in every activity in Cookhouse.  I did not belong to any other member, but what, the organisation I belonged to was the Resident's Organisation. We were playing rugby together with the men who testified before me.  We played for the same team, but I changed to another team.  The time went by. This incident happened when my mother's sister's son was killed.  After that there was this conflict.  There was no reason for that.  Nobody was asking questions, we were not asking questions to each other, but fortunately or unfortunately the wife of the man who testified before use to come to me, because I was selling veg.  She use to come to me for advice and I would give her advice, but this conflict came.  I heard that UDF and AZAPO were mentioned.  I was not a member of AZAPO.  If there were any AZAPO meetings, maybe they were held in Xhalanga's house.
 One teacher, Nyelake's teacher, was killed.  He was stabbed in the house.  After that he was taken out to be burnt.