MR MBANDAZAYO
Thank you, Mr Chairman.  Mr Chairman, when you were talking I was just thinking about a case, a similar case which I handled, which was similar to this one in 1995 in East London, where the Committee comprised of Judge Small and Judge Wilson and Miss Khampepe.
	I happened to face a similar situation where an applicant was convicted of kidnapping and it was a chairman of AZAPO, Eastern Cape.  It can be easily got in the Amnesty Committee, and I think it was the feeling of the Committee that it was too much, taking into account the whole circumstances and the circumstances under which the incident happened that they ended up granting even amnesty on that aspect.  That's why I was saying look, I was trying to prove the bona fides that the Committee maybe it can use its discretion if he has on this matter, but I had a similar case where he was convicted of kidnapping and to be honest Judge Wilson was not pleased inasmuch as the evidence was there before the court that they took away these people, but he felt that it was too severe.  And this guy was sentenced in fact to twenty (20) years' imprisonment.  He was sentenced to twenty (20) years' imprisonment and they granted him.  I just forgotten the name, Mr Chairman, of the applicant, but it can be easily be got in the Amnesty Committee.  That's why I'm saying, Mr Chairman, I've done everything for the applicant, but he wanted to be open and honest with the Committee.  That the Committee may use its discretion when it comes to that.