MR VISSER
You see, and I was going to put this to Mr Mbane as well, but what we saw yesterday Chairperson, in the diary of the docket, of the police docket, are notes taken by - I thought I had the name here, by somebody of a consultation of Mr Jimmy Mbane, and Mr Mbane says, according to these notes, and I will ask him when he gives evidence, that Taylor told him apparently, to go and fetch Kubheka and take her to the beach.  Mr Taylor told him that.  Could that be correct?