ADV GCABASHE
Then, the last aspect relates to Da Gama.  As I understood Mr Ncamazana's evidence yesterday, and you heard the evidence, at the time that you were shooting, he thought that Kid and TNT had abandoned you, he didn't see where they had gone to during the shooting, and he actually jumped either you or Luvuyo to get out while the shooting was going on, and eventually he got away.
	Where exactly were Kid and TNT, can you just describe that scene to us as you  experienced it?