CHAIRPERSON
But you told, Mr Ngo, you are talking here in your typed application about going there with Sergeant Mamome, Constable Motsamai, Constable Mtyala and I.  You make no mention of Bester.   If five people went, will you please explain now how it is that suddenly you have five people there on the first visit?  Because you say, you have now just told me that this grenade you thought were thrown, it was with the explosions in the box.  Can you explain Mr Ngo?