CHAIRPERSON
Let's just be clear. It is quite clear that in this commotion that is taking place, people moving around and you see a man with a pistol in his hand. You are asking him; did you see him fire. In other words was his attention focused on that gun to see whether it is fired or whether is the conclusion he draws is as a result of hearing firing. You are drawing a distinction between him actually seeing firing and whether he heard the firing. I think that this is going to lead us nowhere really because if he says he heard the firing that might be more correct. But if he says I saw the firing then I am not too sure whether it is possible to say that he actually saw the firing. Seeing the firing means you were looking at the gun and you see a bullet leaving the gun. Isn't that what seeing the firing means?