ADV SIGODI
Sorry Mr Williams, when the applicant, or when Andile was being asked questions, some questions from the Panel, it transpired that before this Andile and his uncle were at home, they were watching TV and it's like he decided at that point that he was going to take Andile home.  He mentioned that there were other routes available to him to go back to his home, that was not the only possible route.  I want you to address this aspect.  Yes, just hang on.  Now what concerns me is the fact that it doesn't seem that anybody knew that Pro Jack was going to go that route on that particular day and if the applicant and the other co-perpetrators had wanted or had targeted Pro Jack on that particular evening, they would have chosen a place closer to his home, to me that seems more reasonable, because from the way it has been explained to us, Pro Jack's home was two streets further down and you had to go into the street and go into the fourth house.  There doesn't seem to be any evidence linking that, or to give one reason to believe that they must have targeted him particularly on that particular night, because nobody seemed to have known that he would have travelled that route on that particular night and at that time.  So is it not also possible that whilst somebody may have called him, we do not know who called him and Pro Jack may have thought that he was being called by the applicant and the other perpetrators, that he went towards them and surprised them.  Is it not also a likely possibility?