MR LAX
Mr Pretorius, perhaps you should be a bit more specific.  You know there are Indunas all over the country and in particular in KwaZulu Natal, there are thousands of Indunas.  On the Reef I'm not sure how many Indunas there are.  What specific occasions are you referring to that are relevant to these proceedings and maybe you can narrow the question and give him an opportunity to be more specific?