UNKNOWN
Thank you, Chairperson and Honourable Members of the Committee.  I want to say something with respect to the question of Letklapa Mpahlele, about him coming to testify.
	Chairperson and Honourable Members of the Committee, I have spoken to him.  He just phoned my just now, now, now, when I was coming in here.  I left a message for him.  And he reiterated his position, that he will not appear before the Committee, irrespective of what.  He is prepared to go to jail.  So if one wants his evidence it's as good as if it's not there because he says he is prepared to go to jail because he cannot testify before the this Committee.  
	Chairperson knows we had the meeting in Pinetown.  He had his reason for not coming before the Amnesty Committee, and as such he still stands by that  position.