MR WILLS
Yes, and he did that task.  I mean, clearly in respect of the Ermelo, he was known to be Zulu speaking.  He got the reputation of being a KwaZulu policeman there.  He didn't obviously know Ermelo at all, so had it not been for the local IFP leadership pointing people out, he wouldn't have known what to do.  They provided him with cover, they provided him with transport, they provided him with arms and ammunition and they pointed out the targets.  And basically he was more or less their fire power and that was about it.
Just the only other incident that I want to refer to that occurred within the Mpumalanga province's jurisdiction, is the issue of the murder of Japie Teledi, which involved applicants five and seven.  It involved applicant five only in a very minor respect in that he was originally involved in a conspiracy together with applicant five, to kill Japie Teledi, but for reasons that Japie Teledi was not in Bushbuckridge at the time, that mission was aborted.  You will recall that the evidence was to the effect that later after the death of applicant five's, that Mbambo's, mentor, Siphiwe Ungayani, his co-accused in that trial, Wiseman Ngxongo, came to Izingolweni and the mission again was revisited and eventually it was successful.  
	There was some controversy raised by initially Mr Hewitt and later on by Committee Member Judge Khampepe, regarding the fact that in the application Mbambo had not stated the involvement of Mrs Umbuyazi, and he'd only said that in evidence, the implication being that this was a, sort of a post event fabrication.  I'm able to refer the Committee to the judgment which I didn't have available at that time, but  I can state that the judgment in the matter where Mbambo was convicted was handed down by his lordship I think Mr de Klerk on the 22nd of June 1996.  I'm just going to check that date.  Yes, sorry, the 22nd of July 1996, and it was on that date that Mbambo appeared in Court and he pleaded guilty to this charge and he explained in mitigation the circumstances surrounding the killing, and the mitigation is recorded in the amnesty application of his co-accused, Mondli Wiseman Ngxongo, my pronunciation is bad but the spelling is N G X O N G O, and the amnesty reference number is AM4034/96.  34 of 96.  
	Now you will see from the affidavits in respect of this matter that they were only signed in December of 96, so it is clear that before the application was signed, Mbambo had already testified to the effect that Mrs Umbuyazi was involved in these matters, and essentially, to say ...(intervention)