PETER JONES
Some of these visits did happen. If I can elaborate, at the time there were a number of problems around leadership individuals in the Black Peoples' Convention, these were friends of ours, comrades of ours.
	That was not the reason why Steve would have travelled in excess of 1 000 kilometres and put his life on risk to mend that rift, it could have been done by the organisation in its normal course of operation.  However, because we were going to be in Cape Town, and because we had members, senior members who were banned and prohibited from fully participating at national level, we of course made it known that we were willing to see some of these people, and we had made those arrangements.