GEORGE BIZOS
Yes, I think that that is enough, thank you.  Now at page 1717, please start reading from line 9, 1717.
GEN WEBB
"Yes, but you see it goes much further, General, your own evidence before the Harms Commission was a repeated attempt to create a smoke screen that the CCB did not operate internally, not so?"
		"No, Your Worship, my privilege relates specifically to projects which were operated internally."
		"Oh.  General, do you deny that you in your evidence before the Harms Commission, said on more than one occasion 'But we do not act internally, we were not allowed to act internally'"?
		"The evidence was 'We may not."
		"One of those rules, General, which in 1989 was contravened more often than actually honoured by the CCB, correct?"
		"According to the evidence, yes."
		"Not only according to the evidence, General, but according to your own knowledge, correct?"
		"Yes, Your Worship."
		"And it is that knowledge, General, which you failed to mention to the Harms Commission, correct?"
		"Yes."
		"Because you knew, General, that the CCB had been active internally on an ongoing basis."
		"No, Your Worship."