JUDGE WILSON
Very well.  He was asked at the bottom of the first page what made you politicised in 1985?  He says he was under the influence of Winnie Mandela as well as Morgan Pashlane.  At the time was Mrs Winnie Mandela living in Brandfort?  I was staying at Winnie Mandela's house.  Now at the time who was the political leader, what was the political role that was played by Mr Morgan Pashlane?  Mr Pashlane was the Chairperson of the Democratic Front at the time.  It seems that the connection is, that he was one of the people who resided at her house and my recollection is, and I speak subject to correction here, that there has been information that, in other proceedings, that there were a number of young men residing there who took an active part in various political activities.  That is so, is it not?