MR CLAASSEN
Thank you Mr Chair.
	Mr Chair and without further ado I would just like to point out, I mean I think it's, it needs to be looked at, and this is some inconsistencies, it is true that there were certain inconsistencies in the application of Mr Sithole, Mr Chairman.  And I'd just specifically like to refer to an incident, it was alleged by Mr Cachalia that as far as the applicant Mr Sithole was concerned he allegedly fired his weapon from the roof of a shack.  This was denied.  
	There was a further issue it think it was that the accused, that the applicant said in his testimony in chief that he fell down to the ground and shot from the ground and was later then by some of the other applicants alleged that he had shot from a shack, from behind shelter.  Mr Chairman as far as that specifically is concerned it's my submission that in the situation as it was, I believe there was a lot of confusion, there was according to the applicant shooting to and fro, they were under attack, and as you said it was a long time ago.  I believe these inconsistencies will creep in. ...(intervention)