ABOOBAKER ISMAIL
Mr Chairperson, when it came to the question of the Second Submission, I was not as involved in the drafting of any of these and I would suggest that perhaps Mr Richard should request the ANC to then get the people who drafted those sections, to come and answer that, if he so wishes.  But generally there were questions asked and the ANC certainly sought to explain that there were problems and then what it did about it, or what was the explanation behind these.  It did not refer to specific operations, but it then says "look, this is the kind of thing that did happen."  There is elsewhere and later on, it explained some of these.  Perhaps it refers to what follows in subsequent paragraphs, it talks about Silverton, it talks about the Amanzimtoti bomb.