BONGANI FINCA
You may sit down Mr Madikane.  Before I hand over to Mr van Heerden I would like to ask the people in this hearing to be well behaved so that our proceedings can be done with dignity.  Our work here is to give respect to everybody appearing before the Commission no matter how we feel about that particular person.  If he is here we have to protect him by all means and we have to show him respect.  He does not have to feel intimidated.  I urge the people from Mdantsane, the lovely people from Mdantsane to have respect for the witness and to our proceedings so that it can proceed with dignity, thank you.   Mr van Heerden you are going to lead your client and you can do seated because this is not a court.