CHAIRPERSON
I don't think we should quarrel about that, you realise what is the difference between a lie and what is incorrect, isn't it?  You're not suggesting that he lied, what you're suggesting that the evidence he gave at that trial which he says were his impressions and his recollection of events as he saw them.  There was other evidence to show that his impressions were not correct.  Now are you saying that he lied because of that?