ADV STEENKAMP
Mr Chairman as far as I am concerned, and I will beg leave maybe if I'm just waiting for some detail regarding the other two applicants.  As far as I understand they're not directly involved in the specific incident.  I doubt very strongly if this applicant will be able to tell us, but if you will allow me just one second I will just get the correct details of these applicants.  Thank you Mr Chairman.
	Mr Chairman the position as far as I understand is that there was an application form, or two application forms, missing.  The one application form apparently is from this applicant.  I'm not aware if my learned colleague is aware of that.  I take it that can be sorted out and taken care by himself.  The other application form is the application form of the applicant who was stood down yesterday Mr Chairman, it was Mr Victor Mbatha.  It was different Mbatha Mr Chairman but it seems that there are no people who are available here whose applications are missing.  It's just the question of application forms, they filled in more than one application form.  But what I suggest Mr Chairman, we'll get the correct details the ...(indistinct) stood down.  I'm informed that this applicant will not be able to assist us in that regard.  Thank you Mr Chairman.