MR PRETORIUS
Then one further thing Mr Chairman in regard to the proposition that my learned friend Mr Bizos put that seeing a firearm being fired that contains you must see the bullet leaving the particular firearm. I am aware that Mr Bizos was at that stage not present during the meeting but at a certain stage during the inquest findings or during the inquest proceedings there was a large discussion about what happened at library gardens and there was a video shown where one could clearly see when a firearm was being fired by the way a person's hand react when the firearm is being fired as well as the smoke etcetera that emerges immediately when it is being fired. So I just want to place it on record that, that was in the discussion while everybody, what I mean there was legal representatives of all sides present. I particularly don't recall that Mr Bizos was present. But it is possible to see that the firearm is being fired. You do not have actually to see the bullet leaving the firearm. Thank you.
	Then I wish to proceed as follows.