W RIAAN BELLINGAN
That is correct, Mr Chairman.  What I can remember is that somebody later reminded me and I also told them at the Section 29 hearing that I want to refresh my memory by talking to my colleagues and somebody said that do not shoot that long man, he is one of ours and somebody said that I had said that.  Whether that was the case and, it must be true.  I cannot remember whether he ran away.  I  communicated with Eric, Jimmy ran into one of the houses, he changed clothes, the people helped him and the next day I met him on Caledon Plain at a safe place.