CHAIRPERSON
Mr Tsholanku, I do not know what your attitude is, but I think that Mr Visser's suggestion is that it may be that he may have to ask that this witness be recalled and that he wants to play it by the ear to hear whether his clients are being implicated in the next, through the next witness or whether there would be a basis on which he may cross-examine the next witness or, indeed, even this witness.  So, the suggestion is that the witness should not be excused finally, but he should remain available in case there is such a request and the request is granted that be, that he be called back and I think, under the circumstances, I think that that is a, that that is the best option.