CAPT MENTZ
his group of people and De Kock remained with his group of people including myself, and in Pretoria we 
had our security offices.
	At the time there were problems between De Kock, myself and Colonel Van Dyk and De Kock.  
Colonel Engelbrecht then launched a third unit and we worked from a safe house in Midrand.  There we 
were joined by other members, including John Tait(?).
	There was one incident where I was present where we were in the team at Sodwana on the North 
coast at the holiday resort there.  We lived in tents and Colonel Engelbrecht was there, we were on the 
beach, but we are not the persons who drove over the tortoise eggs.
	We then went back to unit C1, Baker and - Colonel
Baker's unit, De Kock's unit and Paul van Dyk's unit.  Thereafter, however, I heard that  - while I was there 
there were no naked women with us.  Thereafter I heard that De Kock and his group of people from his unit 
were busy with team building again and I do not know if Colonel Engelbrecht was part of that.