MR LYSTER
14A/5 March and April.  I cannot remember the dates, because I didn't record those things down.  I didn't even know at that stage that there would be a day like this, when I would have to recall those things.  I think between March and April in 1988, one day after he told me that he was going to disappear for a while, he came.  He wasn't driving a car on that day.  He asked for a bag - my bag, just among my own bags I had.  He packed a few things.  It was a very small bag.  He put all those things in his bag.  He sat down with me and he bade us good-bye, to me and my children, and he said he was going.  He was going to disappear for a while.  I've got his picture in my mind, when he was walking down, disappearing in the street, and crossing the street above.  When I stood there, trying to check what he was using as a form of transport, I didn't see him and I didn't see how it ended up.  I don't even know what picked him up.  That was the last day I saw him.  In 1990, when the people in exile came back from the organization, when they released President Mandela, my brother also - my elder brother came back - the one who had left in 1961.  He came back.  He told us that he was going to try to find out where Ndo was.  He used to tell us that he had contacted Chris Hani.  They are trying to investigate where he was, but after a while we didn't hear anything.  I've got also something else, which I forgot to say.  At home our father - there was a police of the special branch - the special branch used to come at home since when our elder brother disappeared.  There were certain police from Eshowe.  My father used to go and ask about Ndo to these policemen.  I can't remember their name.  They said, "He's alive.  He's around".  That was in  /1991.