MOKOTEDI MPSHE
That is so, Mr Chairman.  I am happy the Chair is now aware of the predicament I have been put into.  Mr Chairman, both my learned friend and I are indebted to the opportunity given.  Mr Chairman, we have clarified certain issues, myself and my learned friend, and the applicant.  I would just want to put you on record, Mr Chairman, that I will not have any problem that the applicant continues with the next incident where he was when I objected, Mr Chairman.  	It is on the basis that the police officers thereon mentioned, that is on page 17, that will be page 17 of the applicant's statement, the paginated, 17, paragraph three thereof. The paragraph starts with, "op 2 Januarie 1991".  There are police officers implicated, Mr Chairman.  Sergeant Hammond, Sergeant Herbst, Sergeant Nel and Sergeant Pienaar and, Mr Chairman, these police officers have not been served with a 19(4), but, Mr Chairman, the 19(4) has, the 19(4) has fallen off.  There is no need for us to inform them in the sense that the police officers I have just mentioned now, were used as State witnesses and they were, at the end of the trial, absolved from this incident in terms of Section 204 of the Criminal Procedure Act.  I had the opportunity of talking to the Attorney-General who was approached in this matter, he is herein present, he has confirmed that all these people mentioned herein were State witnesses and are absolved.  The implication being that there is no need for them to be informed because they are not implicated.  Thank you Mr Chairman.