MR DU PLESSIS
Mr Chairman, may I at this stage - I wanted to do that after Captain Bokaba's evidence but I can just as well deal with that now and explain to you exactly what we have done.  We have succeeded in making contact with Major Jordaan, we - I will endeavour to - when we finish today, have a consultation with him during this week and hopefully be able to provide you with exact information later in the week, around about Thursday, about exactly what his position is
and what he says.  Furthermore, Captain Bokaba arrived at Pretoria a bit late on Friday to be able to get hold of the records.  Colonel Loots and I arrived in Pretoria around about - just after 4 - we were also not able to obtain insight of the records.  Colonel Loots is however today busy trying to find as much information as possible for the Committee and hopefully we will be able to present you with all the evidence that we could succeed in obtaining during this week.  We will do that later in the week Mr Chairman.