MR DUKADA
And can you read from paragraph 7.1 of your affidavit.
MR SIQHOLA
"During 1981, I attended security lectures at 6th Floor, Botha Sigcau building, Umtata.  These lectures were conducted by a certain Capt Smith of Zimbabwe.  At times Gen Lavis would lecture us.  At the lectures we were told about communism and its danger to South Africa and Transkei, in particular we were told that the African National Congress was a security threat to Transkei and South Africa."