JACOBUS JOHANNES DE RU
Maybe I've put it wrong Chairperson, but the fact of the matter remains it did not take place.
	At the office I once again gave the instructions very clearly to all the members who were involved, the back up groups as well as the arrest groups.  Everybody was armed, everybody knew exactly what the instructions were.  The purpose was to arrest these people because they were dangerous and because they could have been armed with dangerous weapons.  Because of that I told the people that if they fired at us we would fire back but that none of them was to fire unless I gave the shot first or gave them the instructions to fire.  I also would like to mention that when Fouche left us this listening device was functioning, it was tested about two, three hundred metres away from us we tested it and it was still functioning fine.  Then we went to the shopping centre and the backup groups went to their different positions, posts.  Me and another ten members took up positions on the roof of the shopping centre and I believe you have photos in front of you, your honour, you'd see that it's a roof.  It's on page 51 in the second bundle page 51, 52, 53, 54. 
	Warrant Officer Harley contacted me and told me that the vehicle stopped right across from the garage and that Fouche gave the identifiable sign and that the vehicle is moving in the direction of the shop.
	Once again I asked him to give the registration number of the vehicle to people in the radio room to confirm that this vehicle was indeed a stolen vehicle and the vehicle then was confirmed by the police as being stolen the previous night.