MR PRINSLOO
...(microphone not on) regarded as an implicated person maybe and for that reason the secretary should also be present and then at least with legal representation, first of all whether the name should be revealed, secondly as to whether that person will be regarded as an implicated person.  The applicant I represent, Mr Pienaar, is not aware of the whereabouts of the particular source.  He is no longer a member of the South African police force, he's been out of the force for quite a few years and my other submissions still stand.  As it pleases.  Mr Chairman, must I hand this up to the Committee?