CHAIRPERSON
I don't, he didn't say he saw people bearing, he said they went down to the river, they couldn't cross the river.  They went to the river because they saw amabuto, they saw these ladies with babies all moving, there was obviously something going on.  Let's get out of here, they went down the river, they couldn't cross the river.  And then they saw a group of IFP people going up the hill and they joined them.  He didn't say they saw them bearing down on them and they were sort of running to escape immediate death.  Not at that stage.