CHAIRPERSON
We're not here to decide whether or not Mbatha was killed or Gazu in Boipatong.  We're here about whether or not these individuals are entitled to amnesty in regard to the killings in Boipatong.  This is why I'm trying to limit the scope of the inquiry.  If you have the information which differs from what the witness says, please put it to him so that he can have the opportunity.  I understand that on the instructions you have, these two names do not appear.