GEORGE BIZOS
Sorry.  This is why you were not prepared to give us the details of the persons who are named in the Commission's Report, in the paragraphs that we were dealing with.  I just want to find the paragraphs, yes 395, and because of your lack of co-operation I didn't put the names to you of 398.  Now did that intention to protect that you had in 1990, carry through when you gave evidence before the Commission under Section 29 here, not the 29 of 1990, the Section 29 of the TRC Act, and is that the same reason why you were not prepared to give details in relation to the persons' names in 395 and 398?  A yes or no will do.