ADV VISSER
A second aspect referring to a question asked by 
Mr Nyoka, my learned friend, which you should expand upon.  As 
I've understood the question; when you were thinking about who 
should participate, who from PE should participate in this 
undertaking, the question was posed, which role did you envisage 
for each of these persons? And perhaps you did not think the 
same as I think my learned friend wanted it to achieve.  Thinking 
back and if you can't remember, say so, think back, there  were 
three of you; it was van Rensburg, you and Raath who went there. 
 If you can start, why did Raath have to go with?