MR MCHUNU
You can go ahead, proceed.
MR GWAMANDA
"One day he told me that we should go to the Ndwedwe Police Station and that's where I discovered that Ndwedwe policemen were killers.  They would hold meetings at the police station.  Some of those meetings are recorded in this statement, some of them are not.  The policemen that I will mention who were involved: Mr Gipa Gumede, Vuzmate, Nzama, Sabata ..."
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