ADV MEMANI
Mr Chairman, in all fairness to these two applicants, in the description of the assault of these people at Botshabelo, there is no reference to Motsamai and at the end the names of officers who would have been present, include the name of this witness.  And this witness says that Mr Ngo would have said that I was present, because I was amongst the people who fetched these people at Botshabelo.