MR GORDHAN
I submit not, the armed struggle has been going on from 1961 and from day onwards the ANC has been infiltrating cadres, it's been training cadres, it's been recruiting people within the country, it's been setting up structures and I can go on, Advocate Bosman.  So Vula, whilst it was a big operation, should not be seen in isolation from the history of the struggle that this country has actually gone through.
	Reference was then also made to the fact that the armed struggle was still continuing at the point in time that the assault took place.  That's not true Chairperson.  The fact of the matter is that Mr Maharaj was detained on the 25th July, that in his pocket when he was detained was the actual draft of the ANC's proposal to be tabled in the discussions leading to the Pretoria Accord dated the 6th August 1990 which stated explicitly as the court itself will demonstrate that the ANC had the intention to suspend armed actions and that in any event was the implicit understanding that both the government and the ANC through the dialogue that they were having from February 1990 onwards and indeed prior to that, through Mr Mandela and Mr de Klerk, Mr Mandela and Mr Botha while Mr Mandela was still in prison.  That was the understanding that was already beginning to develop and to justify the assault on the grounds that either the Vula operatives or any other ANC operative was still engaging in active armed struggle is being less than frank with us.  Equally problematic, Chairperson, is to deflect the importance of what was happening here by making reference to problems between the ANC and IFP in KwaZulu Natal.  Now that alone will take many days of evidence ...(intervention)