MR DREYER
: That is so.   That is my problem.  I seek the answers from the witness, because the problem with this witness is that he makes a statement before the police;  that he later amends during the Criminal Procedures, and at the third opportunity here, now we are busy with the third truth now, and my problem is Mr Chairperson, I have to protect my client's interest, within three sets of truths, and I have to look at all the alternatives, otherwise I cannot do that.   My problem is then that I have to find out from this witness what is the truth, because during these procedures there are conflicting testimonies.