MR MALAN
Mr Bekebeke, referring to your aim of reconciliation, you refer to those who were implicated and tried, convicted. We haven't read, as you will appreciate, the record of the trial, simply - no, I don't want you to reopen that, you did mention some names. Surely that's important in terms of the interests of those individuals, they have in the past, I assume, made their public statements also at the trial. I want to refer to another part of this reconciliation process and that is your relationship vis a vis the dependants of the deceased. You objected to some noises made by the victim's relatives here. You did say also and ... (indistinct) in response to a question by Mr Steenkamp that there was no decision, there was no motive, it was a response in anger. It wasn't something that was planned. I think that goes somewhere to explaining it. But I'm not experiencing any outreach from your part towards the victims. Surely you would understand something about their feelings. If you put yourself in their shoes. Have you had an opportunity to talk to them since the death of their relative?