EUGENE DE KOCK
Yes.  There was a written agreement of co-operation between particularly Vlakplaas or C1 and the Directorate of Covert Collections, which was DCC of the Military Intelligence, it was a covert Intelligence operation.  And then on a second level, there was also an agreement with the CCB.  This was not written, but we were all convened at Vlakplaas at a function, where this co-operation in all its aspects were established and mutual assistance was guaranteed.