MS GOSO
Mr Elese, as the applicant's representative, first of all I wish to convey my condolences to you for the event that happened.
	Secondly, I would like to take your mind back to the time when Mandla was giving evidence.  Would you agree with me that it was Mandla's evidence that in fact he did not know where the operation was going to be carried out and in his own mind, because he had heard that it was gangsters that were killing the members of his organisation, in his own mind he thought that they were going to where they were going to find the gangsters.  Do you accept that as the position?