CHAIRPERSON
But Mr Visser, the Act says that they have to be notified of their right to be present at the hearing and to testify, adduce evidence and submit.  And they are adducing evidence.  The Act gives them the right to do that.  We have to notify them, notify them of where the hearing is going to be so that they can come and to that.
	The question that has arisen now is whether they should also if they are not opposing the application, follow the normal procedures and put their cases to the applicant, but I don't see how you can now say they can't adduce evidence, their own evidence.