J W MAKOM
When I made an application I thought it was necessary to mention this because I was there when she was being tortured.  EAST LONDON HEARING	AMNESTY/E CAPE
MR HOLE	44	MR MAKOM
At a certain stage I also tortured her even though I was not there all the time.  I left the others, continuing with the torturing.  But after the Reconciliation Act I thought it was necessary to reconcile with her, because truly no matter what the circumstances were at the time she was tortured and ill-treated.  I ask for forgiveness from Miss Msutwana.  I ask for reconciliation, that we walk hand in hand into the new South Africa, because I did not fight with her personally, even Mr Simandla, Mrs Nomoy or her sister Nomanlungela.  I ask for forgiveness today.  I am sorry.
	Because on reflection in jail, even though past deeds were perpetrated on our people, it was never my aim as a policeman, but I was on duty.  I would have been in trouble if I did not show that I would stand up and protect the Ciskeian Government of the day.