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Chairperson at that stage of the fight I did not actually see the things, they were inside the bags. I just asked what is it and they said it is pipe bombs and I said: "Are they safe"? and they said no they are already loaded and the fuses are already inside them.  I rebelled a bit against that, I didn't actually take it out and looked at them.  I loaded them into the vehicle and at the game farm I only heard what the form is and how they work.