MR MALAN
But that does not bring us closer to the truth because we haven't got evidence concerning this.  I'm going to leave it there.
	In conclusion I'd like to follow the following up.  You said that in order to succeed in your application for amnesty you must admit that you committed an offence and that this specific offence was committed with a specific political motive.  In your evidence you did not have an objective firstly, in order the killing is in an attempt to arrest them, things went wrong.  So the political objective, if you had one, would then be around the arrest.  But the arrest would not have been an offence because it is a legal arrest and that is the problem that we've got.  	
	Concerning the facts that you present to us, I understand it and I see it as well, and I think that is why the advocates said that they would clear this up in their argument.  I would just like to say that from the Amnesty Committee's side that wherever they can, if they have to they will stretch towards the side of the applicant but there must be a basis for which we can do this, but I'm struggling to find it.  We will then wait for your witness.