MR DUBE
I was a commander.  As I've explained earlier on, Sicelo was a member of one of the cells that I was a commander of in Emdeni, Soweto that is.  It so happened, you see at the time I was not yet done with the training, military training.  I was still in the process of training them, that particular cell I'm referring to, because there were many other things that I was teaching them.  You will find that sometimes if I have to go I will leave some responsibility entirely on his shoulder, like leave some weapons, handgrenades, F1, for him to administer.