MS THABETHA
: Officer van der Watt.
ADV. DE JAGER: Mr Mthembu can you kindly explain to me what's the purpose of this cross-examination. It's common cause that he has been murdered, it is common cause that they had a firearm and that they in fact killed the person with the firearm. They are asking exactly for amnesty because they did it so that is not in dispute, what is really in dispute, what are we looking for? I don't want to restrict you at all but I, if once one is admitting I've murdered the man, I have used the firearm, I indeed shot him, is it really in dispute where the firearm was at a later stage or what is going on?
ADV. MTHEMBU: With due respect if I say yes, I killed him and I robbed him and I did so for personal gain it (. . . inaudible) due respect.
ADV. DE JAGER: . . . (inaudible) the firearm was found.
ADV. MTHEMBU: . . . (inaudible) van der Watt is about a brown leather jacket(?)