MR VISSER
Yes.  Thank you Commissioner Lax.  I'm not quite sure whether he said that they were shooting at him, I'm not sure about it, those were my words, Chairperson, but the fact is that it was a comedy of errors, after that first shot had been fired and as Commissioner Bosman pointed out to him and quite clearly on the evidence, this is what you must accept, is that Botha's shooting at the wheel started the whole commotion.  There's no question about that.
	Chairperson I've just referred here to page 484 where we read:
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