NICHOLAS JANSE VAN RENSBURG
No, in the first place I was not part of the planning of this operation.  If I say planning, I mean the execution of this operation on grassroots level.  I was not certain or I was not aware of specifically which funds Mr De Kock had access to.  I knew there was  a secret fund.
	I did not know precisely how that administration was handled.  I accepted that should funding become necessary, Mr De Kock would approach me and I also accepted ... (intervention)