MR ALBERTS
Yes Mr Chairman, I was going to get to it, I'm sorry that I've taken so long.  That is exactly the point, innocent people did die.  In this case they did not go out, they were maybe a bit reckless in that innocent people could have died.  They didn't go out to kill innocent people and when they realised it was innocent people they, as Mr Chairman has pointed out, they did continue and it was an unfortunate situation that innocent people had to die but that was unfortunately the nature of the conflict at the time, that innocent people also sometimes died and it's merely my submission that because of that fact, it should not be a, prevent these people from being granted amnesty.  Is there anything else on this aspect.