MR P DU PLESSIS
Mr Chairman, yes the practical problem is whether the advice given to Mr Basson was correct or incorrect, is actually besides the point at this stage.  The fact of the matter is he got that advice, on that advice he did not request amnesty for external deeds in foreign countries.  Even if he wants to change his mind at this stage, he cannot apply for amnesty anymore.  So in any event, this Commission will not be able to grant him amnesty because it is simply for the reason he didn't apply for amnesty and therefore he would expose himself, not only to extradition to foreign countries but also prosecution within this country.  So it's actually a totally theoretical position at this stage.