CHAIRPERSON
Thank you, Mr Dehal.  What I'd suggest now is perhaps we can take an adjournment, I see it's nearly tea time.  Mr Richard, you can speak with your clients, find out if anyone wishes to give any evidence now or make a statement, they may do so.  If they prefer to do so later, after the evidence has been led by all the applicants, then that is quite acceptable.  You can also indicate to them that the victims have a choice, they can either decide to give evidence, take the oath, in which event the other legal representatives will be given an opportunity to put questions if they want, or else to just come and make a statement as such, in which event they'll just make their statement without being subjected to questioning.