GARY JOHN KRUSER
I would say a probably very harsh trial towards us.  I can give reasons.  I also - I remember one day, I don't have the dates clearly in my mind - I accompanied my legal people, Caroline, I think Danny Burke was also with us to John Vorster Square to make statements to the police because we were asked by the leadership to go and make statements to start this whole process of co-operation which the president made public.  While making the statements, the officers who were recording added things to our statements which we did not say and our legal representatives objected to them putting things in our statements which we're not saying.  There was a very. very hostile exchange between our legal representatives, ourselves and the police.  Eventually the police advocate had to come into the situation and try to resolve it.  I think it was at this stage that the agreement was then reached by the police advocate that we only had to make statements about the gist of what happened and not specifics.
	Additional to that the request from the ANC was always that this issue should be investigated entirely but if you look at the headings of the letter sent to us by the A.G.'s office it was always "Eight Accounts of Murder at Shell House" and that gave us a very clear indication that they were not interested at all in investigating the whole event of the day but taking us as accused from the very beginning of this thing.  You can look at even in hindsight, you can look at it from each and every statement which was made to the police - it was never produced as evidence - until the Judge had to call for it.  I mean there's so many incidents we can record of hostility of the police towards us in the investigation.  They went to my secretary and lied to her to get information saying that I said they must give information.  They came to me telling me other guards had made statements.  These were junior police officers who were in charge of investigating, who were doing these type of things.  I mean, there was just complete hostility during the whole investigation team and our lawyers and the ANC.  Every information we gave them was leaked to the press.  As soon as a statement was put it, you could read it in the newspaper the next day.  I mean, could we trust this sort of investigation, both from the Attorney General and the police?  It was very clear that we were still being seen as the enemy even though the new era has dawned and sometimes I think it still in that way today.