ISGAK HARDIEN
Mr Williams, to now come and tell the Committee: "I'm so sorry I planted the bomb", is ridiculous.  I did it, everybody knows that I did it.  I'm not glad that I did it or happy about it, maybe then I was, but this is a new South Africa, we can walk hand in hand, we can go on jols together, we can ecstasy together.  So to go and say now: "Oesman, sorry, Bruce, I'm sorry", no I will not, for what?  I will say sorry to show the crowd - actually I know I did something wrong, I asked the Lord to forgive me.  Maybe they will come to me and say: "Now Gakkie, we forgive you."  I know they will not forgive me, so why would I ask them?  If you really want to forgive me, then we can talk like I talked to Mr Williams.  I can come to your office anytime and say: "Mr Williams, I've got a problem, can you assist me", and you will not close your door.  Because there's a time when myself and Bruce fought on the soccer field, I cannot take this away from him.  Mr Williams is now a new-born Christian, so I accept I can ask forgiveness from Mr Williams, because I know his heart is in the right place in terms of his Christianity, but mine is not.