MR VAN REENEN
I wouldn't put it in that light, the group came down King George Street, they were toyi-toying.  As I've already said, I had managed a number of marchers before, and I wouldn't say that I was afraid of them, that's why I approach them, in order to deter them, because in previous marches one would usually go to the Induna, they would usually listen to you and they would do what you asked them to do.