MR RANDERA
Elizabeth, I have already said words of sympathy to you and I also said that during the time of apartheid there were such bad things that happened, one of them is the one that we are talking about now.  We, the members of the Commission would like to write down all the statements from all the people so that we can fully say what was happening in the past, so that such happenings would not take place any more.  They should not occur again.  We must know of the bad things  that happened in the past and as I have already said to your daughter we will try as much as we can to help you in a certain way.
 We thank you very much.