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I am not sure what the purpose of that was because I had seen the policemen although I may not know some of their names, but I knew that there were two special branch chaps and they were senior guys, Lieutenant Coetzee and Van Wyk.  But also the hessian bag was damp.  Now I think that's - I don't know, over the 30 years I've been thinking about this that when there is any - you've got wet clothing for example and you get an electric shock it's much worse than when you are completely dry.  And I think that may have been one of the reasons for the....  The other reason may also have been to avoid us seeing who actually
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tied the electrodes.  I am not certain.