MR MBANDAZAYO
Yes, exactly, you have got me there.  You have managed to get to the crux of my question.  Then my question is that, I am not saying, I want just in your opinion, what do you say to that, if somebody says your reason then to be involved in kidnapping of Vulindela Mbotoli was that after that whatever, unification that whichever manner, was because now you will be able to get back to your business interest in Ciskei?