MAUREEN VENTER
Yes he did.  He mentioned to me that he had spoken to Mr Derby-Lewis and at that stage we owned a weapon in the house which was not licensed which I was aware of and he did mention to me that he and Mr Derby-Lewis had had a discussion and that Mr Derby-Lewis had said to him that they were collecting weapons in case of trouble in the country and that he had decided to give the weapon to Mr Derby-Lewis.
	He also said among others - he asked me what I thought of it and I expressed my approval thereof so that we could be rid of the weapon because it was not licensed.