MR SNAYER
He said to me that I should open the door because there is a terrorist in the house next-door and they needed to come in.  I think protested and said my family had been terrorised right through the night already, and that I didn't think it was a wise thing for them to come and use my house as a advantage point from which to fire heavy artillery.
 They were all very heavily armed, who were standing outside behind him.  He said to me all this time I had the safety chain on my door.  All this time he - after that he said to me, he didn't need my permission.  I then felt quite helpless and frustrated.
 I opened the door and he barged in with about four or five policeman in uniform following him with guns at the ready.  They took various position two in the kitchen, at the kitchen window opposite the apartment and two in the bathroom next to the kitchen, also opposite the apartment.  I was ordered for my own safety to go into the room where my family was and not to come out.  I didn't obey that, I went into the room and kept the door open.  And I then saw that the two policeman who were at the kitchen window bashed the - the kitchen windows out end of Tape 16, side B ... - sounded as if the house was blowing up.
 I - I began to feel increasingly compromised by a situation over which I had no control and which clearly could in my view have - have degenerated into a - into a situation where from which ever side, my house could have been blown up with my - with my family in it.
 I heard voices outside shouting kom uit jou vark, come out you dog, today is your last day - today you going to die.   I - I didn't - I really didn't know why this was happening.  And why - why it was that to my mind at that time there could have been - there could have been easily about 30 or 40 policeman if not more who had surrounded the place.
 And every time the  voices or voice said kom uit jou vark which to my mind - only fighting one person.  The shooting didn't - didn't stop.
 Then I went into a room adjacent to  the back room where I - where I had spend much of my time that morning and at around 745 the morning about ja about quarter to eight, I became aware of a policeman on the - on the roof lying or crouching and a hand or arm movement which could have been either trying to catch something that had fallen or throwing something.
 Very - I mean almost immediately after that, there was a loud very-very loud explosion.  And then everything just went quite and minutes after that, I heard someone saying, you may come out now it's all over.
 No-one was allowed into - into that department until the police had done what they - whatever they were doing inside and whatever was - or whoever was carried into an ambulance or a police vehicle that arrived, I can't clearly remember.  But when we - when people who were surrounding the place were finally allowed in by Mr Noordien, we saw the effect of whatever had been - had been shot into the room or whatever explosions occurred. 
 There were bits of clothing on the floor, against the wall - the walls and ceiling were blood spattered all - all over.  Bits of what I - I can only describe as hair or some sort and flesh were also strewn around and - and smeared or whatever onto the wall.
 And that - that ended a - I suppose an episode in our lives as a family which we will never forget.  But I want to end by saying that I agreed to testify here today not - not simply because the truth must be told.
  I also agreed because the impressions created by claims that young cadres like Anton and Ashley Kriel, Robbie Waterwitch, Coline Williams and many-many others, were communists or young people misguided by communists.  That myth should be exploded once and for all.  That I believe that  a brave soldier died in the service of his country.  I also believe that I owe it to the family who were not given the chance to say goodbye.
 I owe it to them to make - to make the attempts to make all efforts to get as close to the truth as we possibly can.  Because without that we can't start the healing.  But I also think that those responsible for that attack, need to come forward and account for their actions as well as those who gave the orders.  Without that, the healing can't begin either.  Thank you doctor.