MS DE KLERK
Well, that hasn't been ascertained as a definite conclusion.  Mr Barkor died of a brain haemorrhage which could have been as a result of the injuries sustained.  Then there's Mrs Catherine Druft.  Mrs Druft has also indicated to me, well given me her instructions to oppose the application.  However, she's unavailable to attend the hearing today on the basis that she underwent an operation on Friday and she's still hospitalised.  And then there's Mrs Gloria Smith.  She said that she's not interested in attending the hearing or anything, but she does oppose the application.