MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA
General it's important for us to find out about your past role because it tells us who you are, so that history is very important.  I find it interesting the way you are justifying the existence of Vlakplaas and in fact it is important for us to understand a bit more about your thinking as far as your using of these men was concerned.  You say that you used these men, I know that we are not about Vlakplaas here ...(intervention)