PIETER JOHANN VERSTER
Mr Chairperson, because I did not want to contractually co-operate with the Defence Force as a result of this infighting between, call it the Defence Force Structure and the CCB, I was fired.  So I was not allowed back on my own premises.  Then there was a big fuss from the Harms Commission and there was a big fuss in the press about how files had been hidden away, and what I did is I got someone because I was not allowed on my own premises that I started myself, and I gave documentation to this guy, I said:  "Go and put this on the file", and he later on - I can't remember the name of this person, but they confirmed that they put the documentation back in the files in the administrative offices.  So this was a story by the previous government to pretend as if files had been hidden and that we hid it and that we were responsible for this.  ...(transcriber's interpretation)