FERDINAND BARNARD
Mr Chairperson, I was contacted one evening at approximately 2 o'clock in the morning by Mr Verster, not Joe Verster, Rieg Verster, I was told to go to a specific point close to the Ultra City where he'd meet me, from there we drove.  It was on the Morula Sun road.  I had to go and steal a vehicle.  What happened was that they killed a person who was a double-agent.  He was in possession of a bakkie or pick-up which can be traced back to the DCC.  It was a bakkie that he was issued with.  They killed him and what happened was that he was outside of the vehicle when he was shot and in some way or another he threw away the keys and they could not find it in the dark and I was then contacted to remove the vehicle.  I took the pick-up and I drove behind them up to Oom Gert se Gat, where it was stored and the vehicles were used in abductions and it was also stored at that house.
	There was a basement where you could pull the vehicles in.  Nobody gave me the person's name, but they told me that he was a double-agent that was eliminated.  There was also blood against the vehicle and also a bullet hole in the bodywork.