MR JANSEN
Mr Chairman, if you could just indulge me.  I have various documents in my possession that was handed up in the Harms Commission.  Now, initially I thought - I obviously wasn't certain to what extent the details of the facts would be relevant, and I thought it would be unnecessary to burden the Committee with the entire Harms proceedings, and I thought it more appropriate to rather see as things go along what might be relevant or may not be relevant.  But I think it would be important to hand up a couple of documents, of which I don't have copies for you at this very stage, relating to Mr Khondile.  And I think those documents will appear quite - on the face of them they would appear - they tell the story that - one can gather the content of the documents from themselves.  They don't - I don't think you need any extraneous evidence.  They were in fact also handed in to the Commission by the South African Police.  But just in that context, Mr Coetzee, if a document issued by the South African Security Police on the 11th of September 1981 had stated that there were rumours that Mr Hani had killed Mr Sizwe Khondile, what would your comment be on a document like that, emanating from the South African Security Police on the 11th of September '81?  