GEORGE BIZOS
Yes, video 1 is Mr Ndlovu at Library Gardens.  Video 2 is going to be an extract of a statement made by Mr Ndlovu at Vosloorus.  We are going to ask the Committee to hear the news representor, because it is really Mr Ndlovu's response to the information gathered by the news representor and the purpose of showing this, Mr Chairman and members of the Committee is the attitude of Mr Ndlovu to the possession of firearms generally and AK47 in particular, and his view as to whether or not the Police have any right to seize firearms in the possession of hostel dwellers, Mr Chairman.  We submit that the relevance of this is that information will be placed before you by Mr Berger as to how many fire inter alia - as to how many firearms were seized by the Police on that day from marchers, so that we will ask you to put these two bits together in order that you may or may not draw the influences to whether or not there were arms on the day in question.