MR MALAN
Alright and then you also gave evidence that the political purpose, apart from conscientising the people, that you were teaching them the politics of the country and that there were no-go areas.  The impression of that purpose is not one of a defense purpose, of a passive defense purpose but a very active one of going out, almost like a strike force.  Could you clear my mind there?  There were no-go areas, it was important for you to liberate those areas to AZAPO access or at least then to switch it to make that no-go areas for the UDF.  Was that the political purpose?