MR CLAASSEN
Thank you Mr Lax.  I think just to start at the end of what you said, I think it was also mentioned by several people that the river were in flood and some of them contemplated the option of fleeing but apparently it was not a viable option.
	And just getting maybe back to Mr Chair's question about the question of firearms, I think Mr Mpongosi also said that the reason for acquiring these firearms were because they were anticipating trouble.  Now be it as it may, I think it might be speculative to say that anticipating trouble necessarily implies that they wanted to attack anyone at any stage.  And if I'm not mistaken Mr Chair I, you made mention of the communal firearms, I think Mr Sithole or one of those applicants specifically mentioned that those were Mr Magwaza's he had extra firearms.  
	I think that also on the question to Mpongosi after he said he donated twenty rand to buy these firearms, I don't think, if I followed correctly, that the firearms which they intended buying were already bought at that stage.  I stand to be corrected but I think it was ...(intervention)