MR DONAN
I think the question that we are ultimately going to get to - which you can keep at the back of your mind, is how high up this understanding went but before I finish with this point, I just want to point out to you or point out to the Committee, the contradiction in what you've been saying and ask you whether you appreciate it.  You say that you went from a position of - shall we call it peace and the laws that apply in peace, to a position of war.  Is that correct?