MR WESSELS
Mr Chairman, I object to this line of questioning.  Firstly I submit it is irrelevant for the purposes of you deciding on the issues before you and secondly, Mr Bizos is reading from the Judgment of Mr Stegmann, given in approximately 1993, if I remember correctly.  In that Judgment, Mr Justice Stegmann accepted the evidence of certain witnesses and rejected others.  Subsequent to that, things have changed.  People whose evidence was accepted have then subsequently been proven not to have been telling the truth, whilst others, like Mr Verster, have been vindicated with the attitude that he had taken at that particular time and I submit it is unfair for Mr Bizos to read portions of that particular Judgment to Mr Verster as if that was the last word that was said on the topic.