MR KINCAID
And it wasn't made under oath, and that statement is essentially the same statement that you have repeated in an affidavit deposed to on the 20th of April of this year.  I wish to refer you to paragraph 6 of your affidavit, Jimmy, and for the purpose of the record I wish you to confirm, if you're able, that what I'm about to read now is your personal sentiment.
"To Mrs Morilia, to Mrs Clackers, to the memory of Mr Cobus and those of his family who are alive, to the memory of Mr Hansel and his surviving family, to Mr Pretorius, his family and to Joe Senti and his family, I say sorry, sorry for the infliction of these injustices and sorrow on your lives."
Is that the apology you've made to the victims, of these various incidents we've canvassed in your testimony, Jimmy?