MR NDIMA
Memani was the secretary of Ngxobongwana because when I noticed that the houses are being demolished, I took Ngxobongwana and took Ngxobongwana to this man, I said please I said to this one man, please when there is some people who are in arrears, talk to this man, tell this man so that when I come back, we will take a loudhaler and announce to the people - us from them and this White man said okay, what about the old man, what should I do with the old man.
 I said leave the old man, talk to this man.  And then he said okay, I am going to demolish the old man's house.  I said why, is he in arrears in rent and they said no, he is not.  But I said the houses you are demolishing, is it not because you are demolishing this house, is because you are fighting with the owners, it is about rent.
 So I said is he in arrears - he said no, so I said no, you can't.  He said okay, I won't go ahead, I won't go ahead demolish it.