CHAIRPERSON
Yes.   It seems to us that we will have to get written argument.    Yes, very well.   Have I just discharged Mr Khubeka?   Mr Khubeka, I've just been - I beg your pardon - Just pull that chair and just put it closer to the table.   Mr (Indistinct), if you don't mind, if you don't mind, would you just make sure that the mike is closer to Mr Khubeka.   That's okay, yes, that's okay, yes.   Can you hear the interpretation?