ADV STEENKAMP
No Mr Chairman, but I think he is not applying for that, but surely he is implicating somebody now.  I think the question, my only question why I am asking this question, is the whole relation to information relating to 19(4), if they are not, this person must be referred to as an implicated person or not and whether or not, she must be notified.  That is my only difficulty Mr Chairman, but I don't have any further questions on that issue.  Thank you.