MR RUDOLPH
Your Honour, that meeting to which the State is referring to now was a meeting which was called by Mr Terre'blanche in which he told the secretary of the organisation to also tell me to attend that meeting.  As it is custom in the, customary in the political set up that meeting should take place in order to discuss that meeting with regard to Mr de Klerk's visit and to do planning.
	I must tell you, Your Honour, that that was in August.  On the 18th of March I was freed and released after a hunger strike of 30 days.  I had stomach problems and from time to time I could not attend those meetings.  It was a long time ago, but I do recall that amongst other things, matters were discussed, those matters which should be asked of Mr de Klerk if we could get access and how that access should be negotiated.  There was also the possibility being mentioned because we knew the National Party would use the police and how they went about things, that we foresaw problems and how to combat those problems.
	I know that a lot was said about the fact that the AWB had a first aid tent and equipped it.  Your Honour, prior to the Ventersdorp situation shots were fired at farmers at Goedgevonden and people were injured, but it was a practice over a number of years of the AWB to, during such meetings, have an emergency tent because we had people who handled weapons and knopkierries and batons that was planned there because that meeting at a stage had to be rounded off where I was not present.  It was to be discussed how Mr de Klerk's visit should be handled.  
	One thing is for certain and that is that the leader insisted that we, unlike the other parties, should not prevent Mr de Klerk from having his meeting, that we would allow him to have his meeting and then give him a motion of no confidence.  I hope that is an answer to your question Ms Patel.