EUGENE DE KOCK
Yes, I did.  It did cause certain problems because all these weapons had been sealed, to be watertight and we had to remove the vehicle from which we retrieved it and break the seals and that meant that we could be spotted by the Police or the public.  I understood later from Nieuwoudt that these four AK47 rifles, magazines and handgrenades had been given to four of his agents who would take it to Umtata.  These four agents were actively involved, according to him, and they were kept as a sort of a surprise for whichever purpose he required.  Whether they were there as contingency agents should something go wrong, or whether he had something else in mind for them, is unknown to me.  Later that day, after the delivery of the arms, we heard by means of news reports that the coup d'etat had not been successful, and that Colonel Duli and various other members of the group who had participated, had been killed during this attempted coup.