MR WILLIAMS
(Cont)
	Thank you.  Mr van Zyl, I just want to put it to you, what my instructions are about what actually happened that night at the premises, at the ELC.
	Firstly my instructions are that Mr Ferndale was not even there that night.  Secondly, only two people who were associated with the Kewtown Youth Movement,  had vehicles and they were Osman and Mr Ferndale.
	Thirdly at the time of the incident ...