STEPHEN DONALD MAKHURA
Sir, I'm going to mention something pertaining to what you are asking me, Sir.  This very same man you are talking about was even younger than my younger brother in age.  Now this man came to Kroonstad when I was on trial.  He came to the identification parade to come and identify some of the people I was with.
	Now he said when he came to the identification parade, that he knew nothing about the case but when I appeared in Court there was the man, a witness against me.  I do not know that man.  It later emerged that the man has since passed away, even though his death is still a question mark.
	To further answer you, Sir, my co-accused who are based in Leeuwkop Prison, used to get visits from high ranking members of the ANC.  For example, comrade Ronnie Kasrils, Paul Machatile, Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, Robert McBride,  ...(indistinct).  
	Now it seems as if something was discussed because this Thabo Motaung visited one of my co-accused in Kroonstad.  The reason why he visited my co-accused in Kroonstad was that he wanted to come and tell him that he lied in the Court.  There is even a letter which is in the possession of my co-accused Fusi Simon Mofokeng, where this man it's alleged that he was promised, I don't know 75.000,00.  The letter is in our possession, Sir.  It's with my co-accused, Fusi Mofokeng.  
	Now it is very clear that that man lied, he did not know me, Sir.  I had only less than four weeks in South Africa, it was for the first time I went to that place, Sir.  Even at the parade that man did not point at me, he did not identify me, Sir.