MR MADASA
Thank you, Mr Chair.   Mr Chair, I've addressed this, I've answered this question, I've said, Mr Chair, the mandate from the ANC was not only to kill the identifiable, the known enemy, which is perhaps the State and its agent and IVP, was to eliminate, as Tusanang admitted, elements, individuals within the community who were perceived to be harassing the community.   I'm saying, therefore, Mr Chair, the issue of Blanko and Bulelwa should be seen in that light and it should not be isolated from the general activities of the victims, which there is objective evidence that, or at least allegation that indeed they were involved, and Tusanang has admitted that he heard that there were issues of protection fee being demanded by his members from people, but he intervened and tried to stop that.   So there is overwhelming evidence, Mr Chair, I submit, as to the activities of the ANC Youth League, but the killing of Blanko and Bulelwa was, it was a build-up, it was a culmination of these activities.
	So at that time it was clear, but I'm saying the applicants, even then, did not make a decision that, because of this killing, these people must be eliminated, but when they complied with their order, their understanding was that they were rounding up, and when they complied with the order of killing, they were killing people who were the enemies of the community, not only Blanko, but Blanko's case exacerbated the problem.   
	So I submit that those acts, in the thinking of the applicants were associated with a political objective, especially in view of the facts which they had at hand at that time.