MATTHEW GWALA
It's shocking to hear that there was violence at Mbalendle.  At that stage there was absolutely no violence at Mbalendle.  What was there at Mbalendle was that the people were mixing and they had absolutely no problem, there was no violence.  Maybe what disturbed members of the community was that other people suspected each other insofar as politics were concerned but these was absolutely no violence at Mbalendle.  It was a relatively quiet place.
	The only problem with Mbalendle was thugism or gangsterism and that would happen during the night not during the day.  Gushu himself knows that we used to move around, go to shebeens, drink, have a wonderful time.  
	I met Gushu through Raymond Bopela, that is where Advice Gwala was staying, at Bopela's place.  During those days I was not employed so they used to buy liquor for me because they were working and we had absolutely no problem.  
	At times we would visit different places and now he is denying that he knows my brother.  It came as a shock to me.