MR WILLS
Yes.  Now you indicate on paragraphs 36 and 37 where you got these weapons from.  I think Mkhize has told us what came from Thomas Buthelezi at Port Danford.  Then you indicate in this affidavit that you were present when a AK47 was handed to Mrs Umbiasi which that same AK later came into your possession.  Can you just explain the circumstances around that?