RAYNER MARIA MORINGER
Okay, I think there is an answer to that as well.  Maybe not necessarily the answer you were thinking of, but one should go back to when - as you are aware, I have been in touch and in contact with Colonel Mzwaiba and Military Intelligence in the Transkei over a long period before that.  This was to a great extent exchanging information, getting politically updated what is happening there and this.  Then, I have been approached to assist in locating Mr Mbotoli, which is the, the request which came to me for assistance, is a result of our ongoing discussions and my being in Johannesburg.  Now as I explained earlier, my recommendation at that time was not to assassinate Mr Mbotoli, but rather take him to the Transkei and debrief him there.  By making this suggestion, I was also sort of approached and said okay, and I am putting it in very simple words now, this was your idea, then you are responsible for it.  Does that answer your question in this regard?