TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Yes, Ndluli from Lamontville.  And they left and they were playing their tapes, and those tapes were playing songs of - freedom songs.  They asked me, "Do you know those songs?"  I said, "Yes."  They asked, "Who are the "singers?"  I said, "ANC."  They asked me, "Who are you?"  I said, "Anything you want me to me I am that."  I remember suffering from flu that day, and when he was giving me some treatment I said, "No.  Maybe you will give me some poison.  I don't want any treatment, any pills from you."  They took me out to the office and they said I must give a statement.  During the time when he was asking me to give him this statement I picked up the telephone, I called the attorney to tell them.