UNKNOWN
Thank you Commissioner.  On that one I must clarify that.  I am giving you an impression that I have received after I was given reports, that the way the force with which the troops saw the rush towards them was very intimidatory.  Secondly, without getting into the who shot first, and who shot the soldier, but there was at the time the impression that, from the crowd there was a shot which gave the impression that they were under siege and they were being attacked.  And then some handgrenade sounds or whatever which no one actually proved or can prove, I don't know about that, I don't want to get into that, but the report I get gave me the impression that the people merely were forced to jump to the conclusion that we are being shot, hence now my conclusion that they might have acted in self-defence.