WOUTER J BASSON
Yes, it went through the cycle as already familiar to us, the necessary authorisation was obtained.  I just want to say that as far as Omar and Evans, as far as those two cases are concerned, I wasn't physically present at any time when Verster discussed it with Gen Webb.  There's no specific reason for that.  It wasn't necessary for me to be present, it was handled on another level, but I did have the authorisation from Mr Verster and I accept and assume that it was cleared at a higher level.