HENDRIK JOHANNES PETRUS BOTHA
No I was assisted by Greyling and I cannot recall whether his hands were bound or not.  He was wrapped in a blanket and I made use of the suffocation technique.  Suddenly he began gasping for his breath and it appeared that he had had an asthma attack and it was unknown to me that he was an asthma sufferer.  I called for an asthma pump and it then appeared that Lalla's asthma's pump had run empty that morning.  I sent Greyling to the pharmacy which was situated in the same building as the security branch's offices and he went to fetch an asthma pump.  I think Mr Lalla will give evidence that the asthma pump which was prescribed for him was for example a green pump but the one that the pharmacy gave was a blue asthma pump.  Nonetheless, he could use this asthma pump safely.  After we had given him the asthma pump he used it and recovered from his asthma attack.  After that I did not interrogate him further.