MR KNOETZE
Right, paragraph 35 there was an indication given of the repercussions.  This doesn't have anything to do with the execution.  And if we then go to paragraph 36, page 33, there it is said that because of the increasing fear that Katzen would be made known in any way, it was decided that the Defence Force's involvement there would be scaled down and just to continue with it in a low profile manner.