MR PHOSA
Now I'm not so sure that I'm being cross-examined here now, I'm giving the answers as a lawyer as I understand the legal position.  This witness has claimed from time to time that these people were under him and the reports of interrogation have been reported to him, so when a witness - a person from his area says, the relevant person was assaulted I don't want to see a statement here saying: "I told so and so".
	The matter can be argued later if I'm wrong, I really don't ...[inaudible] further.  I don't see why I should do that, how can I do that.  I the suggestion is - I don't understand why it should be made, that the head of a team - of an area, when members of this team are reported by part of his team to have assaulted ...[intervention]