MR MARTINDALE
Yes Mr Chairman there is another witness that I would like to call. As I understand it one of your considerations is the context. And as this subject came up now in relation to area committees and sub-committees. A Mr M Sinbandla who was at the time working for an affiliate of UDF in Uitenhague and knew the specific circumstances surrounding this situation in 1985 I submit that with the committee's leave it would be important for the committee to hear of the situation then.