MR BERGER
Chairperson, before my learned friend continues - I understand, well I think I understand where my learned friend is going with regard to the timing devices, but - and it is not for the purposes of this witness that he seeks information, but it is for the purposes of further cross-examination of another witness, I am sure, but now that he has the answers that he sought Chairperson, and that everything depends on the timing device that was used, it is really of no relevance now, I would submit, to question Mr Ismail on further explosive devices.