FERDINAND BARNARD
Mr Chairperson, I was never involved in the Brixton Murder and Robbery Unit, although I worked closely with some of the members there.  I was attached to the SANAB branch, the Narcotics Branch.  I never worked or physically worked at the Brixton Murder and Robbery Unit, but in the environment in which I worked and I moved, especially if you were somebody who was involved in shooting incidents.  It's almost like an exclusive club, everything is covered up, documents are manipulated, pocket book entries are manipulated, log book entries for vehicles are manipulated.
	If there's a shooting incident and we have information that, for example, people are going to bring somebody to commit a crime, we will arrange it that the right officer is working, so that he can come out.  So we are covering for each other, we did cover for each other.