MR HATTINGH
Mr Chairman, before we leave this subject, may I be allowed to also have a word about these statements.  The problem that we have is that I was placed in possession of another statement.  Now, the way I read it, it is not pertaining to any other applications, but pertaining to the application we are dealing with in this hearing.  And as I was told by Ms Mohammed, that there was a duplication of amnesty applications at the time, the one prepared by herself and one prepared by Mr Black.  That was told to me during the break.  I'm not trying to give evidence at this stage, but what I believe is that this document was submitted to the Amnesty Committee.  It does form part of the documentation which is to be made available to the public at this stage and to be made available to the Committee.