MR VAN DER BERG
Mr Chairperson, it is very simple.  The applicant's case so far was that I acted in order to protect the people.  If that was the case and he was innocent, and that appears in my Heads, that includes that it is mutually inclusive, in other words it is his case, he could have said that I shot them and this is what I thought, it other words, then I am innocent, can I just rectify this or correct it?
	He had a certain time or period when he could have applied for amnesty, it is approximately a period of two years.  Mr Chairperson, if I can then continue with my Heads.
	I think paragraph 24, it was also submitted that the - I think I have dealt with this.  Paragraph 25, the reason that the applicant gives on page 4 why it was a political crime or offence, could never fall within his field of knowledge.  It is also submitted that the applicant acted in self-defence and that it was in an emergency state.
	Paragraph 27, the applicant also do not meet the requirements in that it was not a political motive as he did not do it for personal gain, he did it for personal gain and out of maliciousness.
	Paragraph 28, ...