ADV DE JAGER
I'm, perhaps while you mention it, both of you legal representatives could overlook, at the indictment on page 154 and at the judgment.  There are three arson, counts 1, 2 and 3 relates to arson.  The first one related to Petrus, the second one to Edward and the third one also to Edward.  The judge found him guilty of arson and murder.  He didn't specify which count of arson.