MR VISSER
Mr Chairman first of all, with apologies to my colleagues who have now come in to this session, Ms Gabriel and Mr Rorich, unfortunately we do not have copies of the general argument which we handed up to your earlier, which will place them at a disadvantage, particularly Ms Gabriel.  We were hoping to make copies this morning but somehow didn't get around to it.  I certainly don't propose to traverse that area again Mr Chairman, but I do undertake that my attorney will provide both our colleagues with a copy of that document as soon as is convenient for it to be made.