MR VAN DER MERWE
Mr Chairman, may I assist.  I am under instructions from Mr Nel just to put a certain statement to the witness, which is as a result of the Exhibits Q1, 2 and 3, the Section 29, or so-called Section 29 hearings of Andy Taylor.  There's just one or two matters which he just wanted to make clear regarding the evidence that was led by Ms Miller during ...