MR MAY
No-no, I didn't I worked for the - after 1982,  I worked for SA Breweries, in 1983 and then also because of the conditions within the company I was part of the people who founded FAHWU within the company itself and also nationally because there was, in fact many unions were coming together on specific industries.
 So again whilst I was working for the breweries I think a personal officer in 1985 asked me how did I get employment om Port Elizabeth - in fact at the breweries because senior management were concerned of the activities of the union within the company and that there were there quite a number of activists who were employed and I was one of them.
 And they wanted him to explain how he employed us,  it was a black personnel officer.  But I explained to him that he was not the guy who employed me, I was employed by a white personnel officer so they should rather direct those questions to him not to the black guy.