MR PRINSLOO
Chairperson, for record purposes, that is not Mr Walus' statements, that is Capt Deetliefs, and I took it up with my learned friend, Mr Mpshe, that there are cassettes that refers to interviews with Mr Derby-Lewis and it also refers to the specific statement, but up to this point we have not received it.  It is part of the questioning. Just to test the accuracy of this, we will have to look at that.  So it is not accepted that if you remain quiet that it is correct.