MR VISSER
Well, then I'll have to go through it the long way unfortunately, and you're quite right, it doesn't' make sense the way I put it.
	Mr Oliphant, can I tell you for whom I appear?  I appear for Mr Coetzee - and please stop me if there's anybody that I mention that you don't know whom I'm talking about please interrupt me, Mr Erasmus, Mr Shaw, Mr Litseou, Mr Mamome, Mr Unkanjani, Mr Maningwa, Mr Norakile - M'Lord, I'm not spelling these because they are on record at the moment ...[intervention]