MR KNOETZE
As you please, Mr Chairman.  May I just also place on record that we have provided the Evidence Leader with a bundle of documents which we think it crucially important for our client's application and that he has undertaken to duplicate those and to distribute it and that he has been placed in possession of those documents already during the beginning of last week.  We didn't give it to him this morning only.  But, Mr Chairman, we also have further documents which are not as directly related but which we think he may perhaps think or yourself may perhaps think to be of relevance and that we've made available some further documents to him this morning with the purpose of entitling him to perhaps look through it and perhaps ask questions in that regard, should he so wish.
	Then I would with your permission beg leave to call General van der Westhuizen.