CHAIRPERSON
So he may have anticipated that De Ru would make faulty arrangements, would misconceive what was happening and would kill people, you're saying that he may have planned that?  You can't suggest that, can you, he can only have planned the deaths if he knew that Mr De Ru intended to kill the people if they went there, then you can say he planned taking them there into the trap, which is precisely what he said he did.