ADV DE JAGER
No, at the beginning I asked with what are we going to deal now and I have numbered it here, one, two, three.  First one culpable homicide, second one murder in 1991 in Beltren, Sasolburg. The deceased who were all mentioned to us and sentenced to 13 years.  So, I was under the impression, too, that we are going to deal with these three matters and not the other ten, 20.  I have asked - point out on pages nine and ten which matters are we going to deal with and it was said it is number nine and number ten there and defeating the ends of justice was connected with the murder.  So, we started this under the impression that we are going to hear three matters today and I thought, apart from what you said in chambers, it is true that we were told that we will deal with one matter, but I thought it is the Free State matter, as such.