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Yes, but what I really want to know is, were you operating fairly independently of the ANC itself, in terms of the way you conducted yourselves?  You know you had the ANC Youth League, you had the Women's League, then you had the mother body, so I'm just trying to understand how you related to the mother body, nevermind what the things you actually did but how did you have to answer to them for the things you were doing?