CHAIRPERSON
Mr Mathiba, we have listened to the evidence that you gave and you have told us earlier that all that you really did was to come and tell the Commission in your statemet what you heard from the mother of Johannes.  She is here now. She is in fact sitting right next to you.  So it appears to make much more sense for us to hear directly from her what happened, when last she saw Johannes so that we have a clear picture and so that we know how to go ahead with this matter.   So I am going to ask Dr Randera to swear Margaret in and then we will listen to her evidence.  Okay?
KLERKSDORP HEARING TRC/GAUTENG
8 M P MATHIBA