JOHN MNDEBELE
It did not have such a policy as you have stated, but the circumstances under which we lived were such that everything had to be done for us to succeed, because people were not arrested and Inkatha or the Black Cats were armed.  They also had guns.  We knew that they had those things and we knew the caches, reporting these on the police.  They would just dismiss it as non-existent.  I went to people, indicated to them that Israel Hlongwane had shot a person in extension at that stage, a person whose name was Andries.  I spoke to Mr Marais about this and he said he was going to go and arrest him.  But the following day he indicated to me that there was no evidence and he let him go.  That was after I had spoken to Israel Hlongwane.  Bongani had actually also told me that Israel Hlongwane is the one who killed Zini.  I took this matter up with the police but they said there was no evidence and therefore anything else had to be done so that we too could arm ourselves to protect our people.  In a war situation one does everything to survive, depending on the circumstances.