MS VAN DER WALT
Thank you.  I'd just like to begin with the last submission from Mr Brink regarding Mr Botha.  The representative for the victims put it that he had said that they'd killed people because they were animals.  Mr Botha denied that.  After a while there was a reference to a particular passage but it seems now, according to my learned friend's argument, that it wasn't Mr Botha but I just want to put it to you that Mr Botha denied that and that nothing like that came out in his trial.