MR VISSER
Chairperson, that was never his evidence, that was never anybody's evidence.  With great respect, my learned friend seems not to have come to grasp with the evidence.  The evidence was that Betty Boom was fetched, a day later Nomasonto was fetched, a day later Tax was fetch, and they were all taken back and then KK was fetched and that was a day or two or even a little later than that.  That was the evidence.