CHAIRPERSON
Still the order must be - find it's foundations within the political spectrum not so and in that absence does it matter whether he acted on an order or not?  I ask the question because you asked him if all these offences that he committed was done with a political motive.  I'm not talking about matters two, three, four, five and six.  The Shongwe murder I refer to specifically and I asked the question and you say you'll make submissions on it.  I'll accept that.