ABRAM VAN ZYL
Naturally Chairperson, I wanted to execute the project regarding Omar and at that point I thought it good to involve Ferdi, so that he could help with the monitoring so that I could make adjustments if it were necessary in order to execute the project.
	This is the reason why I used Ferdi and Ferdi approached me shortly beforehand as I had already given evidence, and he offered me his services relating to information.  At that point I thought it good and I thought that this would be the suitable occasion to involve a person of his calibre at that stage, to help me.