CHAIRPERSON
Please correct me if I'm wrong.  We now have two additional dresses that have been laid on the floor alongside Exhibit 1.  The one dress is, one could perhaps describe it as a black dress, it's got a pattern on it, but it's essentially a black dress, and the other one is a blue dress.  If one takes a look from the bottom of the hem line to the shoulder as they are lying here, they're all pretty much of the same length, there's no real discernible difference.  As they are lying here they seem to be the same length.  With regard to waist size, my opinion is the blue one seems to have a slightly thicker waist than the Exhibit 1 and then - sorry, they're actually being put next to each other, the waistline.  Ms Miller, what is the, are they similar?  Are they the same?  They look the same.  The black one and Exhibit 1, the waistline is essentially the same, if there's a difference it's a question of millimetres perhaps.  The blue one looks a little bit wider perhaps.  Yes, perhaps a little bit wider because it seems to be dropping a little bit down, but if it is wider it's a centimetre or so in it.  I think at this stage, although they haven't been handed in as evidence yet, just for convenience we can call the black one Exhibit 3, seeing that there is going to be evidence about it.