GREGORY EDMUND BECK
Okay.  Before 1990 I can say that we as ordinary policeman didn't know much about these covert operations.  We didn't know anything about it.  It was mostly the specialist policemen, the Security Police, Murder and Robbery and all those kind of guys who knew about these type of operations, and as we are now in the transparent and new South Africa more of these incidents are now revealed.  Now it becomes more clear to me what was really going on and the balance between the State at that time and the liberation movements, and I can see the viewpoint of the liberation movement as well, which they hold, or which they held to bring about what we are experiencing in this new South Africa of ours, and that cost us all to be liberated, so therefore I don't bear any grudges against anybody for what happened, although I was a victim of it, but I understand now.  Before I didn't, no.  And if these things were not revealed maybe I would have held a different opinion.