MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, if I may, Visser on record, I have total appreciation of the problem of my learned friend.  We have put a lot of work behind us with this witness, Mr Chairman.  We are nearing the end of his evidence.  We would certainly have no objection to accommodate the families of the victims and as my learned friend says, if he forsees problems with us going on with the evidence without them being here, we would certainly accommodate him.  What I'm suggesting, Mr Chairman, is not that he stands down and somebody else goes on and that we interrupt his evidence, what my suggestion is if it would accommodate my learned friend is that we adjourn today and continue whenever they're here.