MR MARTINI
Chairperson, I was going to get there, because even on the probabilities and on his version you can't accept his version.  But let's start with the Makarov pistol.  What does Mr Barnard say?  Now let's start at the beginning with the inconsistencies.  His first statement in Section 29, which I don't place much weight on, because I appreciate those statements are under duress and there's a purpose in making those statements.  And I submit one has to have reference as to what was happening at the time, people were being arrested, weren't sure if the government was going to assist them, what was going to happen, what do we say, what don't we say?
	But if we take his statement in November, what does he say?  He talks about Dirk.  Nowhere in his statement that I could find, does he say he was actually hired to kill Mr Omar.  What he says in his first statement is in his second statement, where he identifies Mr van Zyl, and that's one question I asked Mr Barnard, I said: "So when you made your second statement in December '89, you wanted to expose Mr van Zyl", and he says: "Yes".   He doesn't alter that statement.  If you read it carefully, Chairperson, in bundle B I think it is, he says: "Mr van Zyl, (1) offered him R50 000 to eliminate Minister Omar", but then he says he was joking and he says he would never do it.  So now in December he hasn't altered the version, he hasn't come and said: "Nonsense, Mr van Zyl hired me to kill Minister Omar".  He says Mr van Zyl was testing him.  Now why is it improbable?  The budget was R15 000, where was Mr van Zyl going to get R50 000 from?