MR VISSER
You don't know.  Well, Mr Chairman, I don't want to make a long speech out of this but if I could put it on this basis to the witness?
	For as far as you have mentioned anywhere else in any other evidence you'd given, any other names than the ones that you've given here today, I suggest to you that insofar as I appear for any of those persons, if necessary they would deny any wrongdoing on their part.  
	Mr Chairman, you must stop me please if it's not good enough ...[intervention]