MR BLACK
This is the Giwi Breyten incident.  That is the murder of Mr de Breyten, the attempted murder on Mr Fourie and then I assume that the two counts of attempted robbery of which he was convicted possibly relate to the tying up of the two security guards.  Mr Gushu has already testified to that incident and confirmed the fact that this applicant was present at the time the incident took place.
	Mr Chairman, before we get to the actual events as it were, I need to clear up a few preliminary issues.