ALL FIVE WITNESSES SWORN IN
Thank you Your Grace, I report on the matters that are going to come before the Commission today as follows.  The two matters that were held back yesterday because we couldn't complete our work, will be taken first.  Ncumisa Alice Kali appearing on the matter of Tobile Kali, murder, during the massacre and we will take Busisiwe Veronica Gwayi appearing on the matter of Thembinkosi Harold Billie, also murdered in the same massacre.  
 Your Grace we would request that we take those cases together with the first three cases in today's order.  Zolile Jonas appearing on behalf of himself for attempted murder and Sicelo Jonnie appearing also on behalf of himself, attempted murder.  And Paulina Thandeka Gibe appearing on behalf of himself, attempted murder.  Those are the first five cases that we will take at this stage and if we have time before tea, we will take the next five cases from 6 to 11 in our order and Your Grace I will announce that at that time, may I also report on the rest of the proceedings as per our schedule.  We have after tea, a submission which will primarily be focusing on the perspective of the former Ciskei government.  
 We are expecting as per the letter that was delivered to us yesterday, Brigadier Gqozo to lead that delegation from the former Ciskei government in making their submission.  We have confirmation that Mr M B Webb will be coming also.  At the time he was Minister of Foreign Affairs in Ciskei.  I confirm that we have already present in the hall, Mr P P Jacobs who was a Minister in the same government.  Mr Zantsi and Mr Ngcofe who were also ministers in the same government.  We are grateful indeed that they have come to give perspective of what that government thought about this massacre, before, when it happened and after it happened.
 We will then also be taking a submission from the South African Council of Churches and we are most grateful that the former general Secretary, Dr Frank Chicane, is here accompanied by the present General Secretary Ms Hlophe Baum whom we have already welcomed Your Grace.  They are going to be giving us a submission on a proposal that came from churches to try and avert the bloodshed that was eminent at the time, on this massacre.  We will take lunch and then the afternoon we will devote to listening to testimonies of victims.  I propose Your Grace that you accept that order?