AZHAR CACHALIA
I think that particular matter just to, to round off that particular matter, Advocate Sigodi had asked how they identified what member he was and so on, it was dealt with in some detail.
	I think that insofar as Mr Mbatha's case was concerned.  Sorry.  Not only Mr Mbatha's case, the cases of the other parties, I have put it on more than one occasion and I have not been given an answer, when they say that they attempted to avoid the conflict and ran away towards the river, those that said so, inevitably all came back and formed part of the group that were found guilty.  When it was put to them that they had other options and alternatives available, not one has given a satisfactory answer.  What I am saying is that they have not been honest to the Committee in making the allegation ...(intervention)