MR VISSER
Chairperson, with great respect, Steyn's evidence was that when they noticed the car, he shouted over his radio that they're observing the car where they were.  He told you quite explicitly, he didn't know who heard him, he didn't use normal radio procedures, he just gave the information.  There is nothing on the evidence before you and Steyn was never asked whether anybody spoke back to him, whether anybody enquired anything of him or whether the Task Force came back to him and said to him, "Well, don't worry, we're right behind you."  What Steyn told you and what Botha told you and what Wasserman told you about the Task Force motor cars, you must accept was evidence which they realised and it came to their knowledge ex post facto.  Wasserman for example got out of the kombi and went towards the Cressida.  Then there was firing.  That's probably the first moment that he realised that the Task Force was even there.  The same evidence Botha, Botha couldn't tell you and he kept on saying:  "It's possible they were there, I don't know" and Steyn's evidence is in the same vein, Chairperson, with great respect.