MR KINCAID
That was the gist of Jimmy's evidence and it stands unchallenged so it's very much part of the applicants' case, I'm not sure whether for purposes of this record that fact could be agreed but it was certainly the applicants case, it has been right from the very first testimony led by Jimmy himself that the object was, as Jimmy's affidavit sets out in fact threefold, dispossess them of arms, intimidate them and then remove perceived support for the security forces.