CHAIRPERSON
Well you've heard us expressing our concern with regard to the evidence given by Mr Mkhwanazi in connection with the structure and the chain of command of his unit, and that given by Mr Radebe.  And crisply stated, his evidence was that Mr Radebe gave him an order that day and he obeyed Mr Radebe because Mr Radebe was second in command in the unit and the unit was commanded by Bonga Khumalo.  It has transpired of course, during these proceedings, that Mr Khumalo was not a commander of Mr Mkhwanazi's unit.  It's common cause that he was a general commander of the Zone 12 SDU which consisted of four units.  Mr Radebe on the other hand states that the order came directly from the commander Mr Mabusa Mhlongo, and he executed the order that was issued by him.  Bearing in mind the fact that Mr Mkhwanazi was the long serving member of this particular unit, and that point stands undisputed, what weight should therefore be attached to such a discrepancy?