CHAIRPERSON
We would like to call Ntsikelelo Botha.  I would like us to please show mutual consideration.  We have reached a point where certainly people are a bit confused as to what it is we are doing.  The Law which governs us requires that when anyone's name is mentioned in a statement, that person be granted an opportunity by way of being informed and, should the person so wish, come forward and place his version or her version of events with regard to the incident in which the person is being implicated.  Hence, Ntsikelelo Botha together with his attorney have come here to do just that.  This would be the time where we would ask everyone to be extremely disciplined, because we would like to conduct these proceedings with as much order and dignity possible befitting this kind of occasion.  We would like to ask people to contain themselves in spite of hearing things which they may not necessarily approve of, that they exercise the discipline that we know the people of Grahamstown to have so that we can give Ntsikelelo Botha the opportunity to relate his version of events and if there is anyone with an opinion which differs from the one which  Ntsikelelo Botha will relate to us, we ask them to meet with our statement takers and hand in a statement, but for now we ask that we give Ntsikelelo Botha the opportunity to testify.  Is it Mr Vermaak?  We were given the name of Mr Vermaak.  Are you in the same partnership.