JUDGE WILSON
Because rather than have him come here and say he has to go back to his office and get papers and things, I think you should explain to him what I had just said, that if he has documentary evidence such as a pocket book or anything, he should get them.  I am aware of the fact that police officers usually hand in their pocket books after six months, they are then supposed to be stored in a safe place, but one is extremely lucky if one can ever recover them from where they have been stored but he may have other documentary evidence that he wishes to produce. so if you could tell him that and tell him if he's got any others because I gather that Mr Mthembu would be available tomorrow and I also think that the applicants must be present.  They should hear the evidence if they are then going to be called rebut it.  And if it's not desirable they should be told from a note someone's made, I think they should be here, so we will not be able to proceed immediately.  If Mr De la Rey comes here we will have to make arrangements for the four applicants to be brought here again and I think it might be better to make those arrangements tomorrow so we can excuse Mr Mthembu now to go about his other business rather than have him sit here for most of the morning waiting for things to happen.  I don't know what his attitude is towards that.