MR AMEEN
They will also say that once their trousers fell to the ground, after they were ordered to untie this wire, this curtain wire, they were restrained and pliers were applied to their private parts and as they screamed one or other of you would take over from the person applying the pressure and say:  "This is not how it should be done", or words to that effect and then that person would take over applying pressure.  Can you recall that?