MR CLAASSEN
That is correct.  I think they said a voice said not to pursue them any further.  But I think as far as this going to the shebeen and attacking this person that came out the shebeen, it would be my submission that I don't think that at that stage, seeing that they had been recalled, I think, and by his own account, not all of them fell back to the shebeen, I think there was, I think that the evidence of some of the others is that they waited, because they feared they might come back.  It is my submission, and I'm, that was at that stage not ...(intervention)