MR DU PLESSIS
Mr Chairman, I'm not going further in the events of the - I'm not going to cross-examine further in the events of Mr Venter.   It just turns around the question of Colonel Loots sending Mr Ngo to Bloemfontein and the probabilities surrounding that issue and all I'm asking is, I'm asking about the probabilities to establish the probability of Mr Ngo being the person who was identified to carry out this operation.  And I've got one or two questions further questions further questions on this issue and then I'm finished with that Mr Chairman.