CHAIRPERSON
Mr Dreyer, proceed to put questions, but just remember one thing, we all know and I think many applicants for amnesty admit that much, that during the trial, all of them, they lied during the trial.  They did not tell the truth, they did not make a full disclosure, they did not tell everything that they had to tell, they all lied.
	The purpose of this proceeding now is for them now to come and tell the truth and make a full disclosure and then tell the truth.  You must always bear in mind that they say, they admit that they lied.  He also admitted that he lied to the trial court, for whatever reasons.  That he lied is not in dispute, so when you look into that record, you must expect to find a lot of lies.
	Those lies should not surprise you.  Mr Dreyer, I am not inhibiting you in any way in your questions, I just said that you should bear that in mind and proceed to ask precisely the questions that you wanted to ask.