MR VISSER
Thank you Mr Chairman.  I was just going to give you the other reference, the first was page 129 of Volume 2 and you'll find another reference at page 134 of Volume 2 - 134.  And the last reference in this regard before I step off, is at page 135 to 136 - 135 to 136 of Volume 2 and there you'll find all the references to this particular issue.
	Let's talk - well, we've already spoken about this brain injury and what you thought and must have thought to yourself about this brain injury Mr Coetzee.  I've already put it you, your common sense told you that whatever Nick van Rensburg had told you wasn't correct, couldn't have been correct.