MR DE JAGER
---   That's correct, on instructions I did that.  That's why I was entitled to take the second in command on the explosives desk in headquarters, which I couldn't have taken out of my own.  It must have been arranged between the section heads and the approval of General Johan Coetzee.  I was accompanied by him because he would have then prepared all the bombs.  So it was done on instructions, and I was to identify targets and then blow up the places.  That's correct, I planned it.