MR DIAZ
Mr Chairman, members of the Committee, that is correct, you read the transcript correctly with respect.  My difficulty however is this and this is where it becomes distinguishable, my instructions are whilst those are indeed the words that he uttered, it is also true that the applicant made admissions to Mrs Mkhize to the effect that he, the applicant had caused the death directly of Mandla Mkhize.  And as you would notice from a later reading of the Judgement, those admissions become clearer.