MR TLOUBATLA
And then Mr Chairman, I would refer to two more publications, they others I'll use during my address to the Committee.  This was a Sowetan publication of Tuesday, May the 27th of 1986 and apparently The Sowetan undertook a survey
"In a snap survey the man in the street yesterday appealed for peace between the warring political groups in the black community.  The appeal comes in the wake of an alarming increase in violence between the UDF and the Azanian People's Organisation and Inkatha"
Are they referring to the type of conflict that was, that is this particular publication, is it referring to the type of conflict that you both had, that is AZAPO and the UDF?