MR AMEEN
Now just going back a bit to those meetings. When you were present at meetings at which two organisations were trying to resolve major political differences which had resulted in a lot of violence, yet understanding that, knowing what the leadership was trying to achieve, you, given the first opportunity, took part in a series of actions which resulted in a great deal of aggression and the murder of four people and attempted murder of two others, knowing that at leadership level people were trying to resolve differences.  You were not defending, you had six helpless youths whom you had at gunpoint.  The survivors deny that they agreed or admitted that they were members of SASCO or that they were (indistinct) or any of the others things that they are supposed to have admitted.  You had them at your mercy ... (intervention)