MR VAN ECK
Mr Chairman, if I can come in on this one here.  We took over this matter from, I think the beginning of last year and since we noticed that we've endeavoured to get hold of that statement.  I've approached Ms Coleridge a few times to see if we can't get hold of it, we've been to the Harms Commission to try to get hold of it, unfortunately up to now we were not able to trace it at all.  I can't say what happened to it.  We have tried everything that's possible to get it but unfortunately we couldn't get hold of it.