JACQUES HECHTER
Mr Chair I can't remember this incident at all.  During our consultations at our attorneys' offices, this incident was told to me by Mr van Vuuren. Because of the long time span, I can't remember it at all but I am willing to accept his word, if he says I did it.  I hear that he says himself that he can't remember exactly who did it, but I am willing to accept that since I had been the senior person, I did it.