MR VISSER
It says "Beperk" Mr Chairman, it means excluded.  So they didn't get it.  Just one aspect which I didn't understand correctly and I did not put quite correctly to Mr Maharaj and to which you have drawn my attention, the synopsis given in paragraph 2 I put to Mr Maharaj, was done by yourself, is that correct, or is that incorrect?  I'm talking about Exhibit J1.