MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA
Thank you very much for your explanation.  What you have said suggests - our work is (speaker's question not interpreted). We have to examine - our work is - is supported by police of the Witdoeke and there was a fomenting by police of the conflicts that existed in the area.   Secondly the people who were leaders at that time after an attack, as you have said, the conflict was encouraged by police and you mentioned Barnard and the leaders would disappear. Thank you, daddy, and to you, Lennox, for coming.  We are sorry because you have lost your - you have actually lost your eldest son. He is powerless, helpless to do anything to support the family, which makes him experience emotional pain.  That is very painful, but thank you very much for coming. In spite of that you had the courage to come and explain what you have just explained.  Thank you very much.