BUTANA ALMOND NOFOMELA
I do not know, maybe I was insane, I do not know.  Because everything that I am saying here today people are disputing and you even said that I lied.  Truly speaking he told me about that.  The reason for me to apply for amnesty here today it is solely because de Kock told me that they were going to kill the UDF(sic) members, people who were infiltrated by the askaris.  I cannot go further than that, that is the only thing that I was told by Mr de Kock on that particular day.