MR VAN ZYL
No, I think what it was about during the period from April, May, June, when I discussed the unreliability of Peaches, it was also about his incapability of functioning productively.  As I also testified it was about the fact that we paid him a fixed salary at some stage and I said "Listen we're not ...", or I made a proposal that we do not pay him a fixed salary, we only pay him for work he had completed.  So  yes, I had a suspicion that Peaches was conniving behind my back and I only had the facts available to me after I spoke to Gakkie during our Section 29 detention, when I received certain information from him.  So therefore I would not say that the statement is entirely untrue.