MS THABETE
My point was the assault happened even before the questioning that took place, so maybe the decision to kill her, was taken after she had been questioned, but it looks like to me, by the time they went there, they had already decided that she was - I don't want to say guilty - but she had you know, the relationship, or she was working in collaboration with the IFP and the police.
	Another matter I wanted to raise, even though it was raised by the Honourable Judge partly, is the fact that it is interesting that considering the age of the victim as well, and the fact that she was naive and probably politically ignorant to the implications of what she was doing, or rather the consequences of her actions, just like the applicants appeared to have been ignorant and naive.
	It is interesting that a warning wasn't considered or another punishment, short of death wasn't considered, which also brings the issue of proportionality.
	However, like I have stated before, in the judgement it refers to the political climate of the day.  In my opinion really, and as the judgement has put it clearly, there was political violence between IFP and ANC, and I wouldn't object as such to the Amnesty Committee granting amnesty on the applicants.