MR MBANDAZAYO
Thank you Chairperson.  Chairperson, I'm in a difficult position, I must say so.
	Firstly the incident itself, that unfortunately myself as I normally know some of the names used in the liberation movements, unfortunately the one Dlogodlo I couldn't  come up with.  Secondly I know Tabiso Makwala, luckily he was one of the applicants in  one of the incidents, who subsequently died, but the problem I'm faced with is the question, the timing of the whole thing.  The applicant was in jail when this whole thing was planned and it was hardly three days when he left prison and he was given an instruction to go and - on this mission.  Now I don't want to put my neck on a block.  I know that the Committee will come and ask me questions because I used to make submissions on how the operations went and how APLA was operating.  Well definitely, I have to concede that this one, definitely Chairperson, was not in terms of what I understand and what I know and Chairperson, as well that there is this element of sexual assault, rape, in this matter, which of course, Chairperson, that puts me in a very, very difficult position to argue anything on that.