MR VISSER
We hear what you say Mr Chairman, but there is a problem with that and that is the 
changing of the ranks, but we will do it anyway as near as possible.  We can identify them.  
	May we accept then that for as far as our clients have been implicated here today, you will 
appreciate that obviously we have no instructions on that, we will not forego any rights by asking you to 
allow whatever our reaction is going to be to stand down to a later date?