FREDERICK JACOBUS BADENHORST
Chairperson, all of us didn't have firearms, and Head Commandant Kloppers took two pipes from his car and gave one to Visser, Etienne Visser, and firstly Gert, originally Gert, Gert Diedericks that is, but I saw that Martin van der Schyff, at the same scene, also got the weapon in the place of Gert Diedericks.