JURIE BERNARDUS HAYES
I think you may have misunderstood me.  We were often called and told that there would be an infiltration and then I would rush from where I was, get my firearm and see to it that I had enough clothing and such and arrived at the offices and when I arrived at the offices we would usually be briefed regarding what we were going to do, and what sort of infiltration it would be, where it would be and what we would do.  When I arrived there, Mr de Kock was already there and that is when I was informed for the first time.
	When I was called out, I was called out for a possible infiltration, I didn't know where it was going to be or what the circumstances surrounding it would be.  When I arrived at the offices the people were already there.