VICTOR WANDA MUCHACHO MABASO
Yes, I saw him, because we were advising each other, reminding ourselves, reminding one another about the incidents.  We were discussing and I saw him, I'm a witness to that he filled in the form, he applied for amnesty.  And I'm the one who went to fetch him where he was, I wanted him to come and apply for amnesty.  He knew nothing about this process.  I explained everything to him and on Saturday we filled in the forms.