ADV GCABASHE
You see Mr Sibeko, I have the same difficulty that the Chairman has.  I understood the testimony to be that the priority was not to make a political statement about companies and people who owned companies, complaining to the government about crime.  The priority was to get the firearms.
	Why they would then go and get a, hijack a company motor vehicle, that they are going to use at night, a vehicle that is being sought for, and it is probably a marked car, a car that is obviously not a car that would be running around at night, in Tokoza or at any other area for that matter, why they would use that particular vehicle as the best vehicle to transport a rather important package, is something that I still do not understand.
	He was asked about the bakkie as opposed to a sedan, as has been indicated, and the answers were difficult to fathom, they were really unsatisfactorily.
	At the end of the day your argument that there was some political statement they were making, vis-a-vis crime and companies and complaints, is also rather difficult to understand, I must say, in the circumstances as set out for us by the applicant.