CHAIRPERSON
Thank you, Ms Coleridge.  Mr Mbandazayo, is that correct with regard to the translation?  I know it's not the most satisfactory situation, but I'm sure you can also assist your client if there's any difficulties.  And Mr Henge, we apologise for the lack of a Xhosa translator today, we could, if necessary wait if there are any difficulties, but we appreciate your proceeding on the basis as stated by Ms Coleridge.