MR SANDI
Thank you very much Mr Chairperson.  Good morning to you this morning!  We are going to start with Nopopi Getrude Ncaca.  Mrs Ncaca, when we look at your statements, we notice that you all talk about the same incident.  Your children were killed, shot in Cradock at Skhulu Street on three of your statements.  You are talking about the same policeman, Sergeant Hoyiya.  Mrs Ncaca, I want to ask was your son killed in 1986 and not 1985, because the other two ladies are talking about 1985.