MR KAHANOVITZ
And then round about line 25, he says
"My explanation in respect of the incidents mentioned in paragraph 7A, C, D, E, F and G, are exactly the same as that of Verster."
Oh I see, then he says:
"I am not prepared to answer questions about the Athlone bomb incident, the foetus project or about Omar and Evans, since this may incriminate me."
so I must rephrase my question and only ask you in relation to Roskam's car.  You denied to the Harms Commission that that was a CCB project.