MR NTONGA
I don't know Mr Chairman if I can assist here?  What really happened is that the PAC head office sent us a list of all the people on behalf of the legal aid for amnesty and we divided that work amongst certain firms.   Our firm took others, other firms took others so that's how the people were seen in prison.   Mr ...[indistinct] King under ...[indistinct] and company.
	I put my first proposition before I finish that it's not perhaps that the other attacks, that is other skirmishes or operations were really ordered by the said Mr Fundisi and you've said "no", remember that?, not by Jimmy Jones?
	I want to put another proposition to you, before I put it, you told the Commission that you are not aware exactly when there was a decision by the PAC to suspend the armed struggle, you heard about it but you did not receive it directly from your commander.