MR WILLIAMS
Then there is a just a final amendment.  Is it true that during the proceedings you and I had a conversation, you came to me and I said to you that I am not at liberty to discuss the facts of the matter with you, due to ethical reasons, but I would advise you to seek the assistance of a legal representative who will be able to see to your interests, that I would suggest to you that you do not approach any person or a legal representative who had an interest in this case but that you would appoint someone else and that you would only tell that person the truth?  Is that what I said to you?