MR VISSER
Yes.  And the last reference Mr Chairman - I'm not going to deal with the witness with it, is the London record and that is Volume 3 at page 89 to 90.
	Mr Coetzee, just very briefly, this issue of the alleged diving out of the window as you say you were told by Mr van Rensburg, very briefly I put it to you that originally you stated that he dived out of the window during an interrogation and that was that.  Would you agree with that?