MR JANSEN
No Mr Chairman, it's with respect not meant as libelous, what is meant is that with their cover-up, lying to politicians and it's not saying that the politicians or the judicial officers were part of the cover up.   What is meant by that answer and the question is that, and specifically relating to this incident, is that the Security Police lived under a culture where they believed that if they covered for each other and lied for each other they would successfully keep the politicians ignorant.   They would successfully keep the judicial officers ignorant, not that they were a party to it.   That is only how it is meant, I think it's the only extent to which it can be
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