STEPHANIE MILLER
Well that was one level of the evidence.  The other issue was that if you were to look at the mortuary records of all the deceased that I listed, or the average height of most of the deceased and the most women, by all accounts Ms Kubheka was an extraordinarily short woman.  And I think it's clear from the family that the siblings are substantially shorter than average and the body exhumed from the grave-side was of an extraordinarily short woman relative to the national average.  We obviously couldn't tell the weight from the remains.  The level of decomposition would seem to match according to expert evidence which I'm sure will be presented later, that this was appropriate for a body that had been out in the veld for a period of time.  And the bullet hole that was found in the skull, came as somewhat of a surprise given the evidence that was before us at that time.