FERDINAND BARNARD
You cannot say that because I could take them to Kruger and Kruger could deny everything and he could say the man is crazy, he has just come out of prison, he has a record for theft and murder.  No-one would believe me.  If I came and spoke of the secret Defence Force organisation they would deny everything.  Even today still they deny that I was a member of their organisation.  Why would they have admitted to it then?