GARY JOHN KRUSER
Mr Chairman can I just explain, I think I didn't get a chance in court although I tried to explain.  When the lawyers or our legal team drew up the submission to Goldstone, I was called in, I was busy in Pretoria with the inauguration of the new President and all those things, I was called in for short periods to give them a background in terms of what happened at Shell House and I gave a verbal briefing to them in terms of what happened at Shell House and how I saw what happened at Shell House.  The drawing of the final documents which I also tried to explain to the learned Judge was done by the ANC legal team and our legal representatives here.  I did not see the final document, I did not see a draft document, the first time I saw this document it was when it was brought to me to my attention in court.  So I can't testify to what's in the Goldstone document, I did not see the document, I just gave a verbal account of my activities on that particular day.  I was not allowed to articulate that in court but I tried but I want to tell this Committee that is my contribution to that Goldstone document.  I cannot comment on the document I did not see or did not draft.