MR OLIVIER
We have appreciation for your concern.  We have taken it into consideration.  What we stand to do here then is simply to record what the late Professor van Jaarsveld and his family feel as victims of what was done and that it should be reported here.  It should be placed on record as such in terms of this legislation and we therefore are not trying to convince the Commission to take this into consideration in your application.  It is purely a submission by a family member because of your actions.