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Well, maybe it's unfortunate that those issues were not properly canvassed and argued in some of those cases.  In either event, we believe that those sorts of cases are distinguishable in that as I've already pointed out, there is quite obviously a difference between dealing with governments and people who aren't in government.  I don't know what was said in those cases but notionally one can imagine people coming along and saying because of who I was and where I had come from and what it was that we did, this kind of conduct perpetrated by us was proportional.  I think it's dangerous though, I think as my learned friend Mr Bizos has said, we know that there is no law of precedent that applies here.  To try to endeavour to marry what happens in the decisions of the various Committees might not be an enviable part.