NORMAN ARENDSE
Yes, Mr Chairman.  The basis really is that as far as the gun residue test is concerned, - yes, those specimens were taken, they were sent to Pretoria, they were analysed and the tests
that were conducted reveal that there was no gun residue or there wasn't any on the hands of the deceased -  I will otherwise be addressing that issue in argument.  
	As far as the cartridges are concerned - yes, they were picked up, they were sent away for analysis, they do reveal that they were issued out of R4 rifles and in those respects they go in by consent.