MR DLAMINI
We thank you, Mama, for the indications you have given to us.  We can see that it's very difficult for you to relate the story.  Your pain is beyond what you can bear.  I think maybe we will get some more details once we are with you privately, to get all the details, even the names of all the other people who might have some information and where we could find them.  I will hand over to the Chairperson.  Who would give you some words to console you.  