SISI KHAMPEPE
Mr Mhlaba, you have stated that you were in the middle of the second group and Mr Tipp has tried to ascertain exactly where you were once the two groups had merged.  I just want you to estimate, probably by pointing if you can, from where you are to any part of this room, if you can, to show us exactly where you were by the time the two groups had merged.  I do understand that you were right at the back but I would like to just get a mental picture of exactly where you were once the two groups had merged.