MR NTSEBEZA
Yes, we must understand each other.  I will try to speak a bit louder.  I am asking you, Baba, before you tell us about the incident which brought you here, which happened in 1984, if you can just tell us about yourself.  Tell us who is this Hlatswayo?  Where were you born and grew up and where did you work up until you are here in Durban?  When did you come to Durban and why did you come to Durban?  Just before we go into the incident that brought you here.  