DUMA MOSES NKOSI
Let me just indicate that in the report, the one that was referred to here yesterday, if you look at this area it is divided into different sections.  Lusaka is a very small portion of the bigger area.  One other thing is that Lusaka as a section at the Committee of Seven excluding the commander.  The commander in the section had certain things in terms of arms for the protection of the community and therefore that could have been the only way they believed they could protect themselves.  That is why I am saying here to you that I don't have a conclusive explanation because different areas and sections had committees and they used whatever measures they saw fit, they took their own decisions.  Insofar as we are concerned yes, there was a policy to the effect that once a person is a member of committee and a commander thereof, such a person had to be in charge and come together with other people, made the necessary and take the necessary decisions among themselves for their protection.  If criminality was rife they had to take a decision to address that.  Therefore, I am saying it was within their jurisdiction, it was their prerogative in that section to come up with principles.