TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  He is here in this very house.  He wasn't very much hurt, because on that day - it was in 1987.  It was on a Sunday morning.  On that day I was getting ready to go, and some boys came to me and said, "Hau, here is your brother.  Here is your brother.  The councillor wants to take him with."  He was with other two - this councillor was with other two men.  When this happened they had already started assaulting him.  I ran towards them.  They were not hitting him with weapons, they were just hitting him with their hands.  And I asked them, "Guys, since you know Zulu the know the Phungula family.  If there is something that this child has done why don't you come at home?"  They seemed to be sort of doubtful, and the councillor came out.  He said, "If this matter is - this guy is getting involved in this matter let us leave it.  This issue is heavy."  And then they started running away.  I think their intention was to take him away with him.  I don't know what were they going to do to him, but I don't think it was a good thing they were going to do to him.