GEORGE BIZOS
Yes.   So that if he or anyone else told us by that time he had come to the conclusion that the elections were a waste of time and that the only way to solve the country's problems was to kill the anti-Christ Hani, and we are going to submit, although he does not admit it at this stage, the other leadership of the SACP and the ANC, that he was either not being frank with you or he did not say?