MR WILLS
You indicate here as did Mr Mkhize that certain people were involved, but sorry, prior to that you say in paragraph 57 that there was a meeting at the IFP regional offices in Empangeni.  What was discussed at this meeting?  We discussed Welcome Mthimkhulu's duties and his job that he was doing for the ANC.  He was already in the hit list about which I spoke earlier on and we decided that we should kill him that very same evening.  We had M.R. Mkhize in the meeting, Joyful Mtetwa, Dina Mkhize, Zwele Dlamini and Israel Hlungwane.  Zwele and Israel were working at the IFP office already.