CHRISTOFFEL PIERRE VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Yes.  As the Chairperson of the JMC, I established an Advisory Board which consisted mainly of people at the University of Port Elizabeth.  And the idea behind this was to make use of advisory bodies and people outside the sphere of the State, especially on those non-security areas on which the war was being chiefly waged, namely the social and the economic area.  The people that I consulted in the compiling of this Plan Strelitzia were mostly members of this advisory body.  Professor Jacques Cilliers, he later became a member of the President's Council, and there was a Doctor Tertius Delport, he later became a Minister, and Doctor Johan van der Westhuizen, he was attached to the Public Studies Department of UPE.  There was a Doctor White and if I remember correctly, he was a Professor of Economics.  There might have been other people, I can't remember now, but they were the kind of people that we tried to involved in this planning.