MR VISSER
Except one thing Chairperson, and that is I'm going to make certain, and I may say strong submissions in this regard to the Panel at the end of the day, because Chairperson, you will recall that we didn't just ask for photographs, we knew that what was in issue here were the length and the girth of Mrs Kubheka and possibly the teeth.  We asked specifically for two types of photographs.  One, showing her teeth and another type of photograph being a group photograph, preferably by people standing in a group with her, identifiable people.  Those are the photographs we've asked.  There was never any talk about any other photographs, those were the ones we were interested in.  That's what we discussed with Mr Wills and we asked this Committee all the time.