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During your evidence you told us about threeseparate events or incidents which seemed to have been the turningpoint where the security police actually began to take pro-activesteps by engaging in a war situation and then officially, in thecontext of the security police, breaching the laws of the land.  I just want to go through those three with you and find outwhat their order was, which one came first, second or third becauseI'm not clear.  The first one you mentioned in your evidence isBrigadier Victor in 1986 where he said that you should take whateversteps are necessary.   You also mentioned that in 1986 BrigadierSchoon said that you should work closely with Spes-magte and youinterpreted that as meaning that you should engage in the war.  Then thirdly you mentioned
"trevits", and trevits was something which, as far asI can establish, was actually initiated in 1985.   Did trevitscome before the first two?