MR DU PLESSIS
At that stage we decided that there was no other alternative and we contemplated and asked where, how.  Firstly we did not have the experience in this regard.  We did not have the place to do it and if I can remember correctly Colonel van Rensburg told or suggested to Erasmus that he was in contact with Dirk Coetzee from Vlakplaas and that Dirk had the necessary infrastructure or had already indicated that he had the necessary infrastructure to solve or address these problems.