MISILE DE VILLIERS NONDZUBE
Thank you very much, Chairperson.  In 1989, in fact since 1985 and 1986 and 1987 there were talks at Parliament that because at that time no one wanted to join the police, it was decided that the Railway police should be incorporated into the South African Police, of which I am still a part today.
 We got there at a time where there was tension and at the time where I say, in 1987 my house was burnt.  Whereas on the other side, the Government was establishing Councillors and also Council police in the form of municipal police.