MR BRINK
Now, you told the Committee - I think it was either this morning or yesterday but it doesn't matter, that the discussion which you had with your co-applicants to kill Mthimkhulu took place some 10 days before the 14th of April 1982, that was the date upon which he died.  In other words, the discussion was held on or about the 4th of April 1982. ...[intervention]