FERDINAND BARNARD
My first handlers were Commandant Terrence Skelen and Gerrie Bornman.  I was given a pager and telephone numbers, and I was taken at a certain stage, to a smallholding outside Pretoria, near Lynwood Road and they gave it the name "Oom Gert se Gat".  It was in some form of a veil, one would go up a small hill and then in the descent after the hill, it was situated.  All activities would take place there henceforth.