MR ROUSSOUW
Sorry, Mr Chairman, sorry to interrupt.  Roussouw on behalf of Mr Bosch.  Mr Chairman, I believe that the section that you are quoting from is out of context.  Mr Chairman, I would like to refer you to this specific incident which was supplemented, and you will find it on page 18 of the bundle, which is question 10(c) dealing with this incident, and that question deals with whether there was any financial benefit or not, page 18 Mr Chairman.  You will see that the answer there is "no".