CHAIRPERSON
Sorry, if you could just repeat your answer, Mr Mbane.
MR MBANE
"We took Ntombi with us, we went to the beach with her.  When we arrived there at the beach, Dube and Simon got out of the car, Ntombi and I - they left Ntombi and I.  When I saw this car with white man, I made a sign, gave them a sign, got out of the car and I left Ntombi in the car, after giving them a sign.
		I think ten to fifteen metres from the car I could see that they were taking here and they took her to a kombi.  They left with her.  I went back to the car with Radebe and Dube.  After about five to ten minutes we followed them.
		When we arrived in Winkelspruit we parked our car.  We were in the veranda, we could hear the screams when they were torturing her."