MR PRIOR
And it simply says that efforts were made to corroborate or to check with the applicants but any interview was refused without a PAC delegation being present, so Mr Lubbe certainly attempted to verify the accuracy of what Mr Sibaya was saying with the applicants before the hearing.
	And if the Committee is also alive to the fact that it was impossibly to gauge from the applicants themselves until they gave evidence because we didn't know what their submissions were.  Thank you Mr Chairman.