MR PHOSA
And we will come back to that scenario.  Now, I just want to get you into my thinking and correct me if I am wrong.  To the extent that one might try and get into your frame of mind, and understand why you would want as a Policeman to deal viciously with certain people, I have the following to ask you.
	You used the examples of the targets outside the country that were dealt with by the Security as such, do you remember that?