MANDLA WELLINGTON FOKAZI
On that particular day it was on the 2nd of April in 1992, we were from Polla Park.  Our aim from Polla Park - we received a telephone call from Sebenzile, the deceased.  The call was from Natal and Sebenzile received this telephone call.  They wanted some help.  He was our section commander but there was a central commander, Nozulu.
	They then told us that we were going to a certain place in Inanda in KwaZulu Natal.  We were eight and then we went there but one of us, Johannes Nxala was not a member of the Self Defence Units as we were members of the Self Defence Units. 
	We went through Bethlehem and he had a problem with Sebenzile, he owed him money of the Golden Product.  His brother-in-law promised him money.  We then went to Bethlehem to his brother-in-law.  Unfortunately we couldn't find him in his house, we found Simon Mofokeng in the house.
	He then met with his brother-in-law, Johannes Nxala and he went to the garage.  He then got what he wanted from him.  After a while we continued with our journey.  They had a problem with each other, Sebenzile didn't want to listen to him but as I was close to him I tried to speak to him as he respected me.
	If I'm not mistaken from Bethlehem to that particular area.  I think it is two or three kilometres away from Bethlehem to this area and then there was a T-junction to the left and there's a tar road in that area.  I was at the back, Nxala was in front and the driver.  Nxala and the driver were in the front and Sebenzile, the five of us were at the back.
	When we saw that there was conflict in the car I told Makhura about this conflict in the front seat, then the driver stopped the car, got out of the car, we accompanied Morena and we were going to go back to the car but because we couldn't walk for a long distance they followed us with the car.  
	When we were about three or four kilometres we heard a sound at the back, the AK47 sounds.  We then realised that something was happening behind us.  We then continued, we went forward.  I don't know whether you understand me.