BONGANI NKOSI
There was this gentleman, Sicelo.  Sicelo was a real man.  I had Charles with me, the people that you could see that they can really do the work.  The three of them would follow us.  Anyone from another section would come and give assistance, even if we were shooting or burning the property, they would just come and they will tell you later that I am from such and such a place.  You will just let those people render assistance when necessary.