UNKNOWN
Just hold on, just hold on.  We know from evidence given by Mr McBride, that a lot of what was said at the trial was not true, it was done specifically to, for a purpose because they didn't trust the system.  And I think you may have gone along with that, to whatever extent.  I'm asking you, there was a passage in the judgment, and if you give me a chance I'll get to it, where there was some discussion about notes that you had referred to whilst giving evidence.  Do you remember that passage?  Or that point in the trial while you were giving evidence.