MR RUDOLPH
Commissioner, the situation or my situation rather, was when that incident took place I had already been arrested.  So what I am now telling you is total here say, but what happened is that these people were on the way from the Transkei, with a corpse to a funeral and these masses of people, it was not near the hall where we were, they drove into them and in the process a person was knocked down and that person later died as a result of his injuries and this sparked the conflict in that process and that is how the fuse or distributor box was knocked down in the process.  It was not done on purpose.  I do not think that these people wanted to injure anybody but at seven thirty on a winter's evening in a small town, I can just imagine that if you are in that state of mind, you are on your way to a funeral, you are a black man and you enter a town where there are signs of teargas, then I would have said that I would have been worried myself.  As regards the confrontation, I cannot be of much assistance.