MR WITZ
That is correct.  Other than I can put the denial and I can - as you've already taken, read into the record what you've already taken as accepted in the previous application.  That is all that I'm instructed to do but if the need is for further cross-examination and Mr Coetzee's version has to be tested, then I'm not in the position, I'm not instructed to cross-examine until my instructing attorney and Advocate Cilliers return if it is needed to do this cross-examination.
	It's also going to involved distance, various expenses, inconvenience to all the other parties and it was purely on this understanding - that is why they went back to Pretoria, that Mr Coetzee was not going to be called.  And we need  to know entirely at this stage what the status is of Mr Coetzee's evidence only in regards to my client, not the other four applicants obviously.