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When we got there, Joe was walking in front, I was behind him and behind me was Dirk Coetzee and he had smeared something black on his face and his hands.   While we were standing there people came out of the house, ladies, I do not remember what they used to light their way, I did not see what it was.   Joe... (End of 3a)  One of the ladies fell to the ground and then we entered the house, there was a door going, leading to the passage and there were bedrooms and Dirk Coetzee pushed me back and he and Joe went in to the passage and they started shooting.   Gunshots rang out as he and Joe were shooting and I was standing behind them in the house in the kitchen if I remember correctly.   Thereafter when he went out, it was myself and Joe and I shot and as we were leaving I shot once if I remember correctly and there I wasn't seeing anyone, we were just shooting randomly.  I just had one shot towards the closed doors and we went out.  We passed where Lt Vermeulen was standing near the window, I cannot remember whether he shot, whether he fired a shot or not because at that stage the way the shots were ringing I cannot say.   We then ran to the car and went back and we crossed the border through the fence and we went back to a certain base which we were using which was somewhere near a hillside where there was a house.
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MR DE WET-MARAIS	63	NOFOMELA