TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Apparently.  I got back and tried to get in touch with the family, and they said after the news Andy Taylor kicked the front door and was shouting for Thandi to get out, and they said Thandi was not there, but my sister went to the door and answered him and said, "Thandi is not here."  And he showed my sister the photos of Thabani, and Thabani was in blood, was bleeding at the time.  And they said, "If she does not come forward I am also going to kill her as I killed her son."