LAURENS MBATHA
At that time we evacuated the victims to the KH and later spoke to Smiles, because the whole situation was very disturbing, because this was not the intended results that one had expected, but what I said to Smiles, Sir, that, you know, Smiles, it is true, it was a mistake.  That is a fact that you know, but, unfortunately, within the living world nobody could reach those who are outside, that is the dead, because I even said to him the only person amongst all these people who are here, if he could talk, if he could come forward is Ezekiel Mokone himself to say that this thing was not intended for him, because I told Smiles that, really, this thing should not break him, because we know it, that was not the aim of the action.  Is after when I spoke to him.