MR WILLIAMS
Yes, but now I'm trying to tell the Committee what our relationship was, we knew that we did not believe in the same things in terms of politics, to such an extent that we believed in completely different things, opposite sides of the political spectrum, but apart from this we did get along.  Now do you know me as a person with which you can differ ideologically, my view on life, politics, soccer, but I will still be able to have a relationship with you on a normal and proper way and even attempt to talk to you and try to convince you to believe in - to change your mind, is that correct?