ADV DE JAGER
Can I ask the question in Afrikaans.   I put it to you that Mr Kruse said as I understood it, that he was suspended.  And you then said he might have been handcuffed.  Then I asked you is it possible that he was handcuffed in such a way that he was actually hanging, that his feet weren't touching the ground and you said yes.
	Now, what we would like to know from you is, did you in respect of Mr Kruse or any other prisoner, did you suspend them by their arms?