CARL CASTELING BOTHA
Let us just struggle with it for a moment once again, because your client spent a few days under Section 29 detention and the reaction that he caused wasn't favourable, so person such as him who was a trained recce with many award, could not even handle that kind of pressure, what not to speak of someone like me who didn't have that much training, who was completely inexperienced when it came to that kind of pressure.  The difference in our training comes to mind here, so I would like to place that on record.