CHRISTOFFEL PIERRE VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Yes.  By means of an experiment we looked at certain of the smaller more manageable areas to try to find out how could such a local government system function as a fully representational system - Bedford, maybe Adelaide as well.  In those areas we consulted the community leaders from all the population groups and we brought them together under the auspices of the white council at the time.  And in that forum these people had a say on behalf of their communities and that worked very well and it also helped us to combat the alternative structures which sprung up everywhere.