ABRAM VAN ZYL
Mr Chairperson, I would say that the information at that stage had been that the Kewtown Youth Movement was affiliated to the UDF and accordingly, the UDF was affiliated to the ANC which was banned at that stage, and as a result of this, the meetings that were held, where acts of terror had been discussed, as the information that I had obtained indicated, were naturally secret meetings.
	It was not meetings that were open to the broader community of the Athlone vicinity.