GIDEON JOHANNES NIEUWOUDT
That is so Mr Chairperson, but now there's a further factor that occurs.  That person doesn't know the suspect, he doesn't know the circumstances, how long will it take for such a person to get into things?  There's an unnecessary waste of time so there are many factors that one has to take into consideration.  If I have to consider the things now - at that stage I didn't even think of those.