MR WESSELS
But Mr Botha, the Honourable Chairperson has asked you about the point that I was planning to get to.  You stated that you were there and that your good friend, Mr Barnard, was also there and that the only protection that you had lay within the organisation, that you were not prepared to say anything about him that wasn't true and now according to your version you make a false statement about him which breaks the connection with the organisation at a time when he needed the organisation most.