NICLO PEDRO
At that stage he was a Warrant Officer and I met him here in Cape Town.  I was brought from where I had been caught, near the Lesotho border and I was brought to Cape Town.   When I arrived in Cape Town I was taken to Culemborg here in Cape Town, that's in the Culemborg building.   I was left in a room and a whole number of security policemen came in and out of this room to come and look at me to see what I looked like.