JOE MAMASELA
That is pure nonsense Mr Chairman, to a -in a sense that I have never ...[indistinct] and in a blanket form alleged atrocities to, and attributed them to the security forces per se generally.
	I had always been specific and consistent in all my allegations, that I was with this and this and I was with Vlakplaas.  I don't know generally of other security forces, I only spoke about Vlakplaas and Kompol where I was stationed, where I had my own personal experiences that were never generalised.  
	I know as a matter of fact and I want to put it on record, that 99% of policemen, black and white, are innocent law abiding citizens whose main concern is to serve and to protect innocent people.  It is only us, 1%, less than 1% of people like myself and Mogoai who were the ...[indistinct] in the thorn of the flesh of the forces. 
	Today these poor uniformed policemen are getting killed like flies for crimes they did not commit, people hate them for our crimes.  If that makes me biased so be it.