JEFFERY T BENZIEN
Sir, when I saw him, he had these things over his hands.   As I say, firearm or grenade, at the worst scenario a grenade.  If at that distance that I approached him, and he dropped that grenade, none of us would have been here.  That is why I tried to cut off his escape back into the house by saying the mistake can perhaps be by the toilet and when we were next to each other, I was then close enough to grab hold of him.
	And then the whole fight started.