MS VAN DER WALT
You see, Ma'am, I saw this statement.  I'm very grateful that you are telling the Committee this because it is also to me a further indication because if your brother, if that man at the dam and in Soweto was your brother, what would his clothing be ding in Swaziland because this information goes further and strengthens my viewpoint that your brother was still alive at that point and that he got, when he got training, he moved between Swaziland, are you saying that he did not work in Swaziland at all?