MR JANSEN
Thank you Mr Chairman.  Mr De Kock, the one aspect with regard to the instruction or the approval of your plan, I don't think from the context that Mr Ras sketches here, is that there is an allegation that there was an instruction from you, but I think the argument at the end of the day would be that there was approval from your side to do the investigative work and the observation work, to go ahead with that, what is your comment thereof?