MOKOTEDI MPSHE
Perhaps I may come to the Committee's assistance here.  During consultation the applicant was using the statement and explaining to me and I wrote that in English and I'm leading him on that statement which I have written in English, that's the reason why he keeps on looking at it to remind himself, but I have it all before me and I'm leading him on that very statement. It is not in an affidavit form at all.  Thank you.	Now Mr Matela you told this Committee that a meeting was held about you people defending the community in Katlehong.