MR WILLS
That concerns an issue in Ermelo, sorry in Bushbuck Ridge, we're not going to deal with that here.  We must skip that incident we'll deal with that at a later stage.  See "Assassination of ANC Member, Japie Cele" okay?
	The same refers to that incident which occurs on page 45 of the record and paragraph 99, that is the attempted revenge of the murder of Sipiwhe Umbiana, okay?  We'll deal with this at a later stage, it doesn't involve this community.
	I want to turn now to the issue of Nati Gumede's murder that's at page 43 of your affidavit, page 45(b) of the record and your paragraph 103, have you got that?