TOM MADLALA
About indemnity, it came about in 1990 during the negotiations that were in Groote Schuur in Cape Town.
	When there was this law that would be passed by the National Party government, that law was passed in November 1990, and then people had to apply for indemnity early in 1991.  I was in prison at the time.  The manner in which things were happening, was very disorganised.  There was no formal structure like the TRC.  I am one of the people who applied.  The prison warder would fill in the form for you, if you would try and show that you know something about politics, at least you would get a form, but there would be additional statements that had to be done by the prison warders and in their own handwriting.
	I actually think that the ANC did not like this process of indemnity, nationally.  That is why there was a problem in 1992 in September.   The indemnity did not make any move to release the ANC prisoners, because this was just a cover up to save the National Party prisoners, the ANC submitted a list of about 1500 people who were in prison, but only 40 people were released, and those people were criminals.  The people who were arrested for political activities, were still in jail.
	That is why this TRC body was established, this was the only platform where all the people who were arrested for political reasons, would be released.  As far as I am concerned, this indemnity was not such a good process at all.
	Including the Indemnity Act of 1992, was not a good process.