MR RAMAWELE
I would say what is crystal clear is that after the shooting of the activists, according to the evidence of Mr de Kock, he was the Commander in Durban, he was the Commander, he was in charge, but according to his evidence, after the shooting, after this shooting, he cannot tell the Hearing as to what the Security Police officers who remained in Durban, the small band of Security Police officers who remained in Durban, what they did.  In other words, you know, there is no evidence as to what they did  and anyway about 40 of them had already left, so the question arises, why did they leave for Pretoria because they had a specific task to come to Durban to undertake. Now they left for Pretoria in large numbers, so that should be, one is - it will be fair and reasonable to draw a conclusion that they had already accomplished their mission because if they didn't, as Mr de Kock says, they  will never ...(indistinct) at doing anything.  Now if Chesterville was a boiling point and they haven't accomplished their mission and it is Vlakplaas, you know they never hesitate to do anything, they are trained, now they should have remained there to resolve their problem.  They never did so and we are talking about a unit which is specifically trained to deal with opponents in a very vicious way.  So if they go back, then my conclusion is that they had accomplished what they went for to do.
	I will also further say that that document which was handed in relating to the fact that, which was Nortje applying for a firearm, that document is very suspect.  It's a very suspect document because it was issued on the 3rd of June and they only went there on the 20th of June.