MR NGUBANE
Okay, let's turn to page 281, paragraph 25.5, there is an incident there which you describe as an attack for Sipho Mdlaba.  Do you recall that incident?  Page 281, at 25.8, just to remind you, you say that Sipho Mdlaba was the chairman of the IFP, Unit 1 North, in Mpumalanga, you were in daily contact with him.  On a certain day, the date on which you can't remember, he asked you to assist in eradicating the UDF from this area.