FERDIE HARTZENBERG
That is a subjective question, it's the applicant's subjective judgement which is in issue here and I think that is what the Commission must actually look at but I would say that it could be argued that it could serve the cause because Mr Hani ...[End of tape 2B, day 6 - no follow-on sound] party or organisation, if he falls away, then that organisation is destabilised for some time and can't continue with the same commitment as before.  It's absolutely logical that one can argue along those lines that it served our cause.