MR LOWIES
You see it's the second point.  I just want to make this to you, previously I canvassed this with you, I canvassed with you whether you had knowledge of the ANC viewing the SAP as the enemy, and you denied it, yet it is in your statement.
	Second point, again there is a bad reflection in your statement to ANC comrades and to deny that you said it.  It appears to me that you are trying to protect somebody here, not so?