TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  No, there was not.  I am sure as - if we can just get back to my book 2 there, it was all captains.  I was already a captain, and Andy Taylor was with me in the same officer school in 1975, so he was a captain, and Jerry Fourie was our senior.  He was already a captain a year or two before us.  And Major Steyn, Kallie Steyn of the army, was a major.