MR VISSER
Yes, all right.  Yes, I was going to ask you this question but my learned friend has done so, perhaps I should just give the Committee members the references.  The issue of - Mr Coetzee, you seeing the car according to your evidence, in Jeffrey's Bay you will find in Volume 3 at page 53.  At page 86 of Volume 3
" I was told it was the car belonging to a detainee"
And page 93 to which my learned friend this morning has referred - that is the London record Mr Chairman.  In the manuscript at page 98 of Volume 2 - I see I didn't jot down the paragraph number Mr Chairman, perhaps I should do that for you quickly ...[intervention]