CHAIRPERSON
This witness said it was, that it was common for them to gather and sing their songs, their IFP songs, but he said what concerned him was, it was the first time he had heard these words being uttered about expelling the Xhosa, Pondo, Bata, that's why he went to his brother, and because of the context, because there was this problem relating to the removal of the tensions, of the political posters, but he specifically said it was the first time he had heard this direct threat about expelling the ANC people.