MANDLA WELLINGTON FOKAZI
I'm not sure now about Nozulu because of the situations in our areas.  As we were arrested in 1992, in 1992 amongst us there were informers and they would tell the police about our operations and some would die in that manner.
	So I don't know Nozulu.  There are a lot of people who died in that area and there's still conflict even now in that area so I don't want to lie because even Nozulu is not his name, it is his clan name.  We didn't know our real names at the time, we knew each other when we were arrested.  They used to call me Gadebe, they didn't know my name as Mandla Fokazi, so that is the way it is.