MR AARON MOKGATLE
Are you referring to his position here at Phokeng?  He is the uncle to the chief and being the uncle he was working hand-in-hand with the chief.  He worked with Chief Leboni for quite a long time.  Even if you are people, there must be conflict between you.
	It happened that there was a conflict.  He worked, together with the chief - I can't remember until when, but at some point there was a misunderstanding between the two.  And my father temporarily left the job.  I think when the chief was removed from the people, because of the government, Mr Glad was not here at the offices.  After the chief have left, Mr Glad took his chairmanship again.  My father continued with his job, his work was the community.  By that time the chief was not available when Mr Glad continued working with the community.  
	By that time he had someone to work with, who was working with him, while the chief was away.  Mr Tumahole's
position, he was a hand to the chief or an assistant to the chief, when the chief was not there, he occupied the chief's seat.  
	Thereafter he worked with Mr Cecil Tumohole.  Because 
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of the government of the day, there was no working together
amongst the two. Because there was a time when Mr Mangope called us to Mafikeng and he asked us, the Baphokeng tribe to tell him where was our chief.  And we replied by saying the chief was not available, but here at Phokeng, we don't have problems with the chief, the problems we have we have an uncle to the chief, who is Mr Cecil Tumohole, and we also have the grandmother who is the chieftainess.  That's what we told him at Mafikeng that these people are the people who rule the Baphokeng tribe, and we don't see -  and we don't have any problems since Mr Laboni is not available.