CHAIRPERSON
The only problem that I have with your evidence is when you are asked by Ms Thabethe on what basis you then said to Mr Radebe and Mr Mkhwanazi they must do a clean job  so that they can not be traced, and the response that came after that question was put to you.  And that's the problem.  I was only trying to draw your attention to the fact that your response creates a problem to me because you are the one who had told these young people to verify information and not to act on unverified information, yet you are the one who is saying you already knew what was going to happen to the captives, when you had not been given any facts about whether that information that they were tell you about had been verified or not.  That was the ground norm of your organisation.  You wouldn't incite a member to act on unverified information.