CHAIRPERSON
We've got to look at the statement, you are talking about extrinsic evidence.  I may refer you to the issue also in this bundle, supplement 2, page 1.  If you notice, you compare that with page 119, they talk about murder and stolen vehicles, stolen vehicles, possession of illegal firearms, Kliprivier police station, etc.
	There once again, he clearly sets out what he was referring to.  In basic terms, he is referring to all the incidents related to the Dawn Park issue from the time they went to pick up the firearms, and secondly he refers to the Kliprivier police station incident.  I just point it out to you.
	If you want to proceed, we would look at the application also.  If you want to, then proceed.