MR LAX
Sorry, if you'd just allow me to finish, Mr Mbandazayo, I'm not finished.
	What I'm trying to say is that I never understood this witness to be saying he never had any contact with the man, he said the man had come into his shop on occasion, they might have spoken.  What he is saying is that he had no business dealings with him, he didn't know him well, he didn't understand his political philosophy.  That was the thrust of his question.  So what I'm suggesting, Mr Naude, is that to suggest that the witness was saying he had no contact whatsoever with the man is not a fair thing to put to the witness at all.