MR FOURIE
Mr Chairman, regarding Mr Mabala's not remembering whether he saw Mr Xuma in the then Transkei or not, I have a problem because - I'll read my statement and then I'll leave it to him to answer if he wishes to.
	You keep telling us that you are or you were a soldier trained to carry out orders and that you were told to do certain things including killing people, you claimed to have been involved in various operations and you remember the details of them.  My question now is why can you not now remember a simple detail yet a very important one regarding remember when you saw Mr Xuma and where and under what circumstances?