MR VISSER
And in the ANC's statement to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission dated August 1996 Mr Chairman, you'll find at page 96 in the second column, a list of deaths which were recorded by the ANC and under the heading Natural Causes, presumably meaning death by natural causes and then at page 97 under the heading Zambia, you will find at page 98, number 149, the name of Tami Zulu and a date 14 September 1989.
	Exhibit H goes further and says Charles Ndaba had been deported by the Swazi Police.  Do you know anything concerning that or can you agree that or can you dispute it that that statement of Mr Jones or MK Jones?