JEFFERY T BENZIEN
If I may help the Commission.  Mr Jonas originally would have been a witness for the State and then withdrew his testimony to be a witness.	And then he had to explain to the court, but I don't know if askari came up on numerous occasions, I am not sure if it was on that occasion, that I said I did not know them or that I did know them, but it is possible, I will concede, that I could have perhaps said I do not know them.