MR VISSER
Yes.  Well, incidentally you are correct, because Mr Chairman, if you will look at page 66 of bundle B, it will appear that he was admitted to the police college from Ladybrand on the 4th of July 1986.
	The next point here which arises from this page Mr Chairman, is that he passed out on the 4th of December 1986.  All of that appears from page 66 of bundle B.  Have you found it Mr Chairman, page 66?
	So you see Mr Ngo, when I started asking you questions I said let's try to work out a framework within which you could have acted and we now know that you were in Bloemfontein as a policeman for three months in Ladybrand...