MR MOTATA
May I ask for your apologies Mr Ndlovu.  With respect Mr Wills, the Judge formed impressions on the evidence given but if you were to put it as a fact that that's what the Record says, we don't have the Record of the evidence thus far, but only the Judgment and the opinion of the Judge and I think his answer is correct in the sense that he says "that is the opinion of the Judge."