CHAIRPERSON
I must say it's most unsatisfactory that an advocate can phone and say he's got another forty (40) minutes to go when it's quarter past eleven and we should have been starting at half past nine.  I just cannot understand it.  It's a situation that has caused great problems now because, as you know, we will not be able to proceed with this matter tomorrow or Thursday, because there's the other part-heard matter that is proceeding at half past nine.  And that other matter was the prime reason why we've come to Ermelo for this hearing.  This matter was put on as an addition to the roll.  So, if we start with this matter and it doesn't finish, it will end up being a part-heard, which one normally likes to avoid picking up part-heard matters.  Mr Nkosi, you mentioned this when we were in chambers earlier, but just to confirm it on record.  When Mr Black arrives, will he be in a position to start off immediately?  He won't want to have some time to consult, because you did inform me that he had consulted with the applicant before this day or before yesterday, some time in the past?  Is that correct?