MR VISSER
All right, I stand corrected Mr Chairman.    Let us confine ourselves then to sleeping there at any stage on the evening, that evening when Ms Khubeka was being interrogated there, on that evening, and I am not thereby suggesting as Mr Lax has corrected me, to say that it was while the interrogation was going on, but at any stage during that evening, while you went in there to go and find out whether information had been obtained from Ms Khubeka, did you see anybody sleeping on that what we refer to as the verandah?