N JACK MENERA
What happened is that I did explain yesterday, that the son to Mr Phelane, we went from Brandfort to Virginia.  They went to fetch dynamite, then they were arrested and then Sibikhoto was not arrested and he was a state witness because he left Brandfort to go and fetch those explosives from Virginia, then he returned with them to Brandfort.  So that is my testimony because what I'm saying is on the record and if you want the records of those cases you will find that Edward Phelane was the state witness against those two comrades from Virginia. If I remember well it's 1986. Those comrades were sentenced, then they were put in Grootvlei Maximum Prison.  One of them is Seth and his brother was Ten Percent.  Those were the people who were sentenced by the evidence given by Edward Phelane who gave it in court.  I think I've answered your question.