MR HATTINGH
Sub-section 1, as well as sub-Section 2.   From the Act, it would appear that, from the outset, the Amnesty Committee is involved with an amnesty application.  On receipt of, the very first day when the application received, from that they are, the Amnesty Committee is involved, and that's why I made the suggestion that perhaps the, that the evidence leader or any investigating team would be instruments of the Amnesty Committee in obtaining information to place them in as best a position to have regard to the full picture.   Now if the existing arrangement is ...(intervention).