UNKNOWN
I think I have already testified about Vlakplaas, if you remember correctly where I 
said that the Unit there was brought to a halt with the view to arresting persons there and rehabilitating 
them - persons who had been arrested had to be rehabilitated and then I did try and assist in tracing persons 
who were coming from the outside to commit acts of terrorism here and also use them as witnesses against 
such persons in a court of law and there was no objective for that Unit, and what happened in the course of 
time is that it developed due to the circumstances. I think I, myself was there twice at the most. I had no 
liaison with them, but that is as far as my knowledge of Vlakplaas goes.