MR VISSER
In fact, our information is the docket has been destroyed.  We cannot find it.
	If you were interested, Mr Chairman, in the evidence in-chief, of Mr Ngo concerning Mr White Mohape, I can give you that reference as well.  It is in the evidence, in the little bundle which we call the evidence of the 14th of May.  There are so many A's and B's now, that it is totally confusing, Mr Chairman, but there is a thin, little bundle of evidence which is headed "The evidence dated the 14th of May 1997".  Now, if you would make a note in that bundle ... (intervention).