MR POTGIETER
Perhaps we can get his name on record too.
I am told it's Mr Ghole.  Good morning to you as well, and good morning Advocate Collett.
 Brigadier you have been requested to attend this session of the Commission hearings which relates to the 
incident which happened in Bisho on the 7th of September 1992 which is commonly referred to as the Bisho Massacre.  You were then the Head of State in the then Ciskei and for that purpose the Commission was of the mind that you are able to make material submissions and bring relevant evidence to bear on our investigation of that particular incident.  It is to that end that we are happy to see that you are able to attend today and I want to once again welcome you and I would hand over to you.  I see that you have prepared a written submission to assist us, but I am going to ask you to take us through that.  So I hand over to you.  Brigadier just before you actually take us through there I am going to ask you to take the oath, and we will be taking your submission under oath.  So I would ask you to rise please.