MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA
I understand Mr Knipe, but the peculiarity of this case is that there was an intervention by Presidents, by the President or a Minister and I imagine in my mind that this would have stuck out in your mind as a unique case.
 I was just trying to follow up how your reaction to this intervention was and how you handled it with your committee and particularly within yourself?  With your members, with your colleagues and with yourself?
 How you perceived the idea of a President or Minister intervening in such a case?