MR BERGER
He put the two statements together so that you could apply for amnesty for both Boipatong and Sebokeng?  What I want to tell you is the one is the statement and the other is the form for amnesty, your Attorney will show you what I am talking about.  That is the form, that is the statement and they were put together in September of 1996 and submitted as your application for amnesty to the TRC in Cape Town.