JUDGE WILSON
: You set this out in paragraph 20.
INSP. DE LA REY: That is quite correct, Mr Chairperson. Their groceries in the black bag were hidden in the room and the other.
ADV. DE JAGER: And in the same case where their groceries were, in the same bag there were two men's watches, one with the deceased's name on and the other with Mrs May's name on?
INSP. DE LA REY: That is correct. Mr May's particular's, her husband's particulars, I can't remember exactly but there were those particulars on them. It is unfortunate so that in the bags of groceries there were other things which could be identified positively as belonging to the deceased or Mrs May.
ADV. MTHEMBU: . . . (inaudible) take the point raised by Judge Ngoepe further for example the white pillow. On what basis would you have said that this white pillow belonged to the deceased?
INSP. DE LA REY: Are you referring to the white pillow which was confiscated at 337 K?
ADV. MTHEMBU: Paragraph 32 . . . it doesn't say, it just says at 1 o'clock, oh yes, I assumed it was House 337. Did that pillow have any distinguishing marks for you to say that it belonged to the deceased?
INSP. DE LA REY: The reason why I confiscated this particular pillow was because accused No. 2 handed it to me along with the shoes and he said it was part of the property which had been taken from the deceased's home and that is why I also took the pillow because he gave it to me with the shoes and later it was identified positively as being the deceased's property.
ADV. MTHEMBU: But Inspector, Mr Nkgwedi says that the pair of brown shoes were his. He said that in modus operandi, in that bedroom, at house No. 337, was that anything that you saw as being new or as being of quality, you just said it could not belong to them. It could only be the late Mr Fourie's property.
INSP. DE LA REY: That is not correct Mr Chairperson. The accused at No. 337 K and all the other cases voluntarily, I asked them what they had taken and it was just part of investigation, you ask people what else they took from the deceased's home and then the accused gets it out and as he took out the pillow and the shoes, accused No. 3 again took out the knife from the bag and it was after what I had asked them that they handed these articles to me. It is not so that I said yes because it is an expensive article it can't belong to them, that is not correct.
ADV. MTHEMBU: The applicants say that after the arrest of accused No. 4, Mr Magoda, that you actually didn't go back to House 337, but that instead you went to K Section at Leon Bottle Store where you went to go and buy liquor and from there you went to Bloemfontein. I am sorry.
INSP. DE LA REY: Mr Chairperson, that is not at all true, as I have in my statement, you will notice that the course of time which expired was brief and to move between sections takes a lot of time and if you look at the time which expired there wasn't time to do other things, it was a matter of moving front one point to another and then back to that point. That kept us busy, there wasn't time for other things.
ADV. MTHEMBU: The articles mentioned in paragraph 21, Mr May says that he didn't provide you with any information but that these articles were found by the police in the vehicle.
INSP. DE LA REY: Could you please repeat your question. You have spoken about Mr May and the place where I found the items mentioned in paragraph 21 was at the home of accused No. 4, Mr Magoda and that's not where Mr May lives.
ADV. MTHEMBU: My paragraph 24 you say that as . . .