SERAME MOLEFE
Well, Warrant Officer Jantjie.  At my place I'd already learned because I asked who was everybody after Shaw had indicated his name and okay, nobody told me about Jantjie's name but in the process I learnt that he was Jantjie.  Okay, he was there and Motsamai too was there and the others I didn't know, I was seeing them for the first time, the very Shaw himself.