CHRISTOFFEL PIERRE VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Chairperson, even today, I doubt, I think it was desperate times.  One can read of this desperate factors if you read Plan Katzen and even Strelitzia.
	Besides the very short time frames that we had, it is also true that the situation in the Eastern Cape reached peaks of being out of control, or not being controlled.  No, I did not think that Katzen could stabilise or normalise the whole situation.  In Katzen, I also wrote that this does not replace our existing plans and we had plans on a variety of terrains.
	Katzen was seen as, I won't say as a desperate effort, but as being a more drastic way to see whether we couldn't perhaps in that time frame, start to address this one big problem in the Eastern Cape.
	The idea was that it should commence, make a start and then by means of good control, keep things on track and then through that, that we could address this one main problem, existing in the Eastern Cape.
	But to put it in this way, I did not really put all my hope on Katzen.