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: Mr Bloem, I'll come back to this aspect, thisaspect of Roland Petrus, but now I'd like you to tell us brieflyabout what you did as a leader to try and avoid conflict in thecommunity and to try and combat the crime and violence.   I'llrefer you not to an example or an incident and then you must justelaborate on that.    This is an incident referred to by applicantTulu which happened at the church of Reverend Gozongo.   Do youknow about such an incident?