CHAIRPERSON
Reverend Mokwena, thank you very much for coming.  I think you yourself through your own experiences, through your own pain you have actually put your finger on it completely when you said that we asked the question why were these people not arrested, what was the need to go and shoot them.  This is a story, it is of no consolation to you, but it is a story that we have heard many, many times of a confrontation between the police, the local police and the youth where police open fire and children are killed.  Where they are, yes they are protesting, yes they have grievances, but in the protest they get killed.  I think that, as you have said, this is something that is senseless, it is something without reason and it is certainly something that we, as a Commission, will try and recommend, because what we are trying to do through this process is to ensure that we do not have the same type of culture where this sort of thing is not only possible, but it is actually fairly regular.  It is, we are moving towards a country, a culture which is completely different and where children do not get killed so senselessly.  So we would like to thank you very much for coming.  Thank you.