N JACK MENERA
No Mr Commissioner I beg your pardon, I want to answer on the question you asked, because the same question was asked by the judge, Judge Menega.  You have killed Susan Phelane, now what do you say to the Phelane family.  I refused to ask forgiveness from the judge, I would never go out of my way and ask forgiveness from apartheid, as if we did our act without any knowledge or we didn't have any objective. I told the court, I said, Judge the question that you are asking me, is a nice one but I'm not going to ask for forgiveness from Mr Phelane, and he asked me if they were to release me now would I go back and attack again and I answered that very easily I said I'm not at loggerheads with Mr Phelane, I'm answering the question he asked whether I am proud of what I did.  My answer is no, I'm not proud of what I did.  I wanted to explain that such a question was raised but I refused to ask forgiveness but the reason to appear before the Commission now is that we are asking forgiveness and amnesty and you should understand the reasons why we committed that act.