CARL CASTELING BOTHA
Sir, this is your version.  I will just give a brief reaction.  What Mr van Zyl and Barnard's relationship was, I'm not quite sure.  The discussion that took place between the two of them, I cannot say about it.  Mr Barnard has not got the ability to influence me that I will incriminate anybody or will see that anybody will be in trouble unnecessarily.
	Secondly I would like to say to you that this so-called deal to which you are referring is not applicable just to me, there are also other people who are involved and also went to the A-G for 204s concerning certain aspects of their evidence.