ABRAHAM CHRISTOFFEL FOURIE
Chairperson, when I addressed a group of people, that was when the Natalers arrived there, the people from Natal.  And they were welcomed by General Nico Prinsloo.  That was outside of the hall when they arrived there and he said to them, he told them who Commandant Dupee is.  He was the Commandant of Operations and Commandant A B Fourie is the Commandant, is the Camp Commandant and I'm in charge of that and then I spoke to them and I showed them where the rubbish dumps were and things like that.