TOM JABULANI MADLALA
Yes my home.  That meeting on the 26th was not successful because people did not pitch up.  It was then postponed to December, 30th.  Before this date the youth would approach me and wanted to know if they should attend the meeting, so I encouraged them to do so and informed them that the meeting will no longer be held at my home but at a certain mountain in ...(indistinct).  So the meeting was held and a lot of young people arrived.  I chaired that meeting and I first explained to them about the IFP, about the UDF and about Cosatu and about  ...(indistinct).  I then challenged the youth present, asking them:  "How long are we going to operate underground?  Why don't we operate openly?"  As the meeting was still in progress the Chief came, he was with my father who was his Induna.  They were also with the Councillor Mr Zuma.  The Chief stopped the car a distance away and sent my father to come to us.  When my father arrived, he informed us that the Chief requested minutes of this meeting for him to know whether the youth supported the IFP or the UDF.  A dispute arose between myself and my father because the meeting was not formal, it was just a mass meeting, therefore the Chief would not be in a position to obtain any minutes.  My brother, Madambe, also had a dispute, an altercation with my father, but to avoid further conflict, I promised my father that I would hand over the minutes for him to give to the Chief.  My father then returned to the car.  That is when Umtwalumi Youth League was formed.  The Executive Committee was also elected on the very same day.