MR WILLS
Thank you.  Madam Chair, Honourable Members, I am not in a position to comment on the discussions that were had between Mr Black and Mr Sambo, obviously I was not there at the time, but I can clearly state as a result of my consultations with Mr Sambo, that he wasn't aware of the implications of the Act.  It was clear to me that he didn't understand the proceedings and through my consultations, it was clear from the evidence, from the consultations that he had intended to kill Mr O'Farrell and I see no evidence of that whatsoever in the record which I have had the opportunity of perusing.  That is as far as I can take it.  I don't want to point fingers at anybody, but that is the factual position.  It is my submission that provided the applicant is prepared to fully disclose his involvement in this crime, and provided he can show that it is politically motivated, that that would be relevant for the consideration, any evidence in that nature would be relevant for your consideration, and I ask for this opportunity that he can, in order that he can further support his application with further evidence.  Clearly he has not understood the procedures and the purposes of the Act clearly, from my consultations.