MR VISSER
Yes, yes, indeed Mr Chairman and there may be a thin line but I have difficulty and I will argue this at the end of the day with a witness who is a policeman who comes to you and tells you that there are methods of torture being used but they are not assaults, but I will leave that for later.
	Can I come to a visit by, what did you call them, terrorist unit from Pretoria, is that what you called them?  Yes a terrorist squad coming from Pretoria.  You remember you gave evidence about that?