TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  I will be very grateful to that, Because we haven't even been to Ixopo Springfield.  We are planning to go there.  At the moment for us to get full information we will need to get this from the family, but we are happy that we came here.  And also give us courage and strength to go to this family.  We are going to try and reach them and see what we can do for this family, and get all the information.   ---   Yes, I am very happy about that.  But what made my heart sore was that I didn't hear anything about his death.