JUDGE WILSON
You have been asked about what knowledge the Ministers or the State Security 
Council may have had of incidents that occurred, you said they wouldn't have had, as I understand, but 
there were certain incidents that I think we all knew of that occurred in Lesotho, in Botswana and Maputo, 
where it was accepted by everybody that the South African Armed Forces had been involved, now I take it 
those would have been discussed by the State Security Council?
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