THEMBELANI TANDEKILE XUNDU
Okay.  As I have indicated earlier, there was no way that somebody who has nothing to do with the operation could know about it before the operation, even after the operation, there was no way that they could go to him and say: "We have done this, and that", for obvious security reasons.
	So he only got an indication when the situation demanded so because we had to dispose the car.  I mean that is what the situation operational demanded otherwise you get caught by the enemy forces.  So comrade Ntintili knew absolutely nothing about the operation until I ordered him to accompany us so that we can dispose of the car.
	And I think, if I remember very well, he asked: "What for"?, because a Jetta that could take us from point A to point B within a short space of time and he knew that we had problems with regard to transport.  So I told him that: "This car is a most wanted car in the Eastern Cape", at the time.  To him, as I could look to him, I mean ...[indistinct] did not have given him enough signal that it was the car used there.