MS THABETE
Madam Chair, I did not speak to them today, but I spoke to them the last time.  It was very difficult to get any facts regarding this incident, because they were not present at the scene.  I don['t have any instructions to oppose, nor do I have instructions not to oppose.  I just used my discretion that since they were not there at the scene of the crime, I wouldn't take any instructions as to whether they are opposing or not.