CHAIRPERSON
Yes.  What I'll do is I'll ask for submissions from any of the legal representatives concerning which to make submissions and then as you say we'll make a ruling on it at a later stage.  I think Mr Ngubane if you can also just make reference to the Act before you make a formal application.  The question of whether if a person is implicated, as an implicated person whether he can be subpoenaed.  Because once it's been determined that he is an implicated person and notification is sent to him, then he has the right to come and represent himself and make any submissions and be heard if he wants.  Maybe you'd take a look at the question of whether he can be subpoenaed because he may well have the right to - notwithstanding the fact that he's implicated - to stand back and not make an appearance.