CHAIRPERSON
Well, in all fairness to you, before you say you agree with him, after - his evidence was that after the rehearsal at the river, he concluded that this whole plan was to kill these people, not to arrest them and in case something goes wrong, to, you know, to kill them or to shoot, if necessary. His evidence is simply that he was of the view that what was being planned was really to kill these people, not to arrest them.