MR VISSER
You see that's why I asked you the question, it's clear that you don't understand what the Chairman has asked you.  The question here is would there be a register, a book, a piece of paper, a document which will show that on a certain day you, together with du Plessis and Raath and Bezane went to Bloemfontein to go and fetch Mr Kondile, is there such a document that you could refer us to?