MR VISSER
I'll take it that that's an affirmation.  Now, you see this misprint is very confusing in paragraph 7 because you see it says
"after that visit in 1987, we never saw him again until we learned in 1988 that he had disappeared"
and today you told this Committee that after February 1988 you were told by them to stop visiting them, I take it that them is Mabece and Mbulelo, am I correct?