BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
I am sorry.  The other problem which worries us will be the one which would require of you to go through the record and comb through the record.  That is the question of the origin of the instructions.  Pay particular reference to the page that I have, that I read earlier on which was page 54 which I just picked up during your argument.  There might be more in the record and perhaps you can balance them in your written argument.  As I say that we will have to, will require of you to really read the record very carefully.  Well, we leave that one at that point and the other one would be, you see if Mr Nkuna, Joe Nkuna did go to, well you have dealt with it anyway to some extent.  Our concern was just that if he did in fact go to the scene he would have withheld relevant information and that would amount to non-disclosure on a material and relevant thing, aspect and why must we disbelieve Mr Skosana when he says that Joe was there.  I mean he has been consistent, well, maybe he misplaced the, him with regard to distances and the like.