MR KAHANOVITZ
So, just in relation to the incidents that you are applying for amnesty for, we can accept then that at the time the "in-house" was held, a plan in the case of the Early Learning Centre, had already been approved and accepted to sabotage the building, all you would be discussing at your "in-house" were the mechanics of the plan - when, where, how, with what equipment, involving which operatives?