PHUMULA JOSIAS MANAGA
Dean Farisani, but the way he was explaining we realised that he was telling - I can say he was telling the truth because on the arrival of those people Mr Posiwa was found and Dean Farisani wasn't there.  He was telling the truth.  And Farisani, said, and I think Reverend Posiwa would have said, when the two people arrived Dean Farisani was there.