JUNE CRICHTON
I think I want to say that I, and I am sure the Commission are horrified at what he was subjected to in watching what he had to watch and it just seems to be part of the systematic abuse that was being conducted at that time, emotional abuse and psychological abuse.
 I want to ask you, according to the statement I have in front of me, the Doctor who conducted that post-mortem was a Doctor De Wet, but you mentioned a Doctor  Jordaan.  Which of those two was it that conducted that post-mortem, do you know?