MR DU PLESSIS
That's what I'm trying to clear up Mr Chairman.  I'm trying to clear up if that refers to an order of Loots in respect of the first incident or not and what I'm putting to the witness is, it doesn't say specifically - you have to deduct it from that but it doesn't say specifically that: "We received an order from Captain Loots to bomb Louisa Mbongo's house".