MR SANDI
Thank you, Mr Chairman.  Good morning Mr Belling, let me say I'm glad that we have eventually met because we've been doing a lot of talking on the phone over the past few days.  To avoid confusion when I ask a question to the father I will say Mr Belling Senior and when the question is directed to the son I will say Mr Belling Junior.  As the Chairman of the panel has already stated I will ask a few questions.  The idea is not to trick you or to try to say that your story is not true, the idea is simply to assist you to present your evidence to the Commission as it has been stated in your statement.  I'm not quite sure how you're going to present your evidence, are we going to start with Mr Belling the Junior and then the father to assist him?