ADV DE JAGER
Now he's also made an affidavit, I think you must be aware of it, it appears on page 72 of the papers, and in paragraph 6 and 7 he says
"As far as my knowledge goes, the murders they committed were not politically motivated"
And then in paragraph 7:
"The ANC also refused to arrange and pay for their defence"
Did they tell you why they refused to arrange and pay for your defence?