CHAIRPERSON
Well, I can tell you now, Mr Neethling had been implicated by Mr Coetzee in his application for amnesty in earlier proceedings.  I am also informed that notice was served on your client or he was notified that it was being said by Mr Coetzee that your client had supplied him with - whether you call them knock-out drops or poisons, but that is what was being said about your client Mr Coetzee.  Today this is a repetition and there is nothing new that has emerged since the previous hearing in that regard.  I do not know whether your client has in any way applied for amnesty.  I don't know whether he's involved in any other matters for which he has applied for amnesty, maybe you will tell if he has.