MR VISSER
I would say in the period of the beginning when I met him, I was not very much, reluctant to get involved with the political situation.   I must admit that during the latter part of 1992, Mr Clark influenced me to join the right wing.   At that stage, the right wing was in a bit of a turmoil regarding all the different organisations that took part in the so-called struggle at that stage.   So therefore we joined as many of these organisations as possible, in the hope of being brought into one arm and at that stage when General Constand Viljoen took over the management of these systems and we obviously, also as an ex-military person, I joined under him also.