JONES JUDA MDLULI
Yes.  When the incident occurred it was during a time of war.  During that time, the '87, '88, '89, '90, 1991, everyone knows that there was a war going on in all the townships, that is between the ANC and the IFP.  What we did then, that is to fetch those firearms, even though it added up resulting in the death of their loved ones, that was not our intention.  We wanted to help families who died day in, day out being killed by people who were armed and trained as well as the IFP which was armed as well.  Therefore I will say to those relatives please understand the situation that prevailed at the time.  We are now faced with a different situation where we reconciled with regards to past conflict.  I will then ask that maybe what took place, before then, before the present government, led us where we are today so I would ask them to please forgive and forget the past and let us look towards the future.  Thank you.