MR MAZIBUKO
I never saw them.  Let me explain it this way.  Nana Tshabango came from Tshirela(?).  Victor Keswa came from Sebokeng.  Nan Tshabango according to Tshirela's people, was a bad person who was a murderer, who shooting people, who was assaulting people.  And Getisi, it was alleged that he was a killer and assaulting people.  So people came to that kind of conclusion, the people within the community said they wanted Getisi and Nana.
	There were those when I was with Nana Tshabango in a car going to town.  We would give them a lift then we'd ask them;  do you know Nana Tshabango?  Those people from the township would say; I don't know, we don't know him.  Then they would say; did you hear about him, they said yes.  Then they would say we are looking for him.