JOHANNES LODEWIKUS GRIEBENAUW
No, I said the exact opposite to what has been put to me now.  I said that I objected to the fact that at Defence Force officer was giving me orders and that I took my orders, wanted to get my orders from the Commissioner of Police.  He then answered that you do indeed have an order from the Commissioner, ask your representative from the police, from the Commissioner, and that is Brigadier Schoon.  And Brigadier Schoon confirmed that.