MR TSHABANGU
I never said Victor lied.  Victor says what he says himself as Victor Mthembu.  I as Mplupeki Tshabangu, I am here to cleanse my heart.  The words that I uttered from the time I started giving evidence, I tried to mention things which I know and things which I had seen.  What Victor said is what he said.  I can't answer on his behalf.