MR MBANDAZAYO
The impact, Chairperson through you, I agree with him, he said so, that he might have gone there, but what I wanted to get at, that's why I had to stop asking him the question whether he has never had ... I didn't know that he had business, whether he has never talked as business people, and he said
"I avoided him, I never had contact with  him."
So the impression is that there was never even an attempt to talk to him on any other specific thing regarding business.