MR BOTHA
When one is amongst one's own people and belongs to the same organisations, one obviously does discuss the war that perhaps was being waged at a low intensity at that stage - a struggle that was still to come - one would, of course talk about arms, accumulation of weapons, training and so on.  And so, in a discussion, it came out - he admitted that he was in possession of an AK47 rifle, and that's how I knew that he had it. Again here, I made it clear to him that the fact that I knew he had an AK47 was enough for me. I never asked him - I never wanted to find out where he had got it,  because again, what I did not know, I could not tell other people about.