TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  It was in September when all these things happened.  It was on the 17th when this boy was killed.  Since that time I have never seen the Mpanza family, and I never ever had any contact with them.  They were living at the Mamba Store, very close to the Mamba Store.  I don't know whether to contact them so that they can appear here, but I only saw them during that time. One other thing that I would like you to clarify for us.  It seems as if you know the people who did this thing, because some of them you even named them, but at the end you said you never laid any charge because you didn't know who to accuse.   ---   I think I have to explain there.  Among the people who were chasing the deceased I didn't know anyone among them, but the ones I spoke to are the ones who grabbed the person who was running away.  And then we saw those people were chasing.  They were the ones who grabbed the person who was running away, so I can't say they were chasing him.  They were grabbing this person who was running away to ask, "Why are you running away?"  But I complained to them and said why were they grabbing this person who is running away.  If I can just put it clearly there that I cannot hide who are these people, because I didn't even follow them up because they were also grabbing at a person who was running away.  If it was a wild animal they wouldn't have eaten this animal, because they had not - they were chasing it, they had just got hold of it.