MR WESSELS
There were hearings, on the previous occasion when Mr Verster testified, the same issue arose, the Evidence Leader made enquiries through the agents of the Commission, and the response was that Mr Kleinhans who was dealing with it, was contacted, he informed that it was in fact processed, but it was never published, because the reason was that they thought that this Mr Wouter Basson was the other one which is being charged now, and for that reason they didn't want to publish it, but everything was processed up to that stage.  That is the information that we got last time.