MR MADASA
It was too late, Mr Chair, I mean at the scene, it was too late, everything happened fast there, it was too late now to withdraw or to realise that, at that moment, it was a hit of the moment and it was a matter of life and death at that stage.
	Mr Chair, I go to full disclosure.  I submit that applicant made full disclosure as to what he believed and what he was told.  He was honest and straightforward.  There is no evidence before the Committee that there are matters that he left out or deliberately omitted which are material to his application.
	I submit lastly that in terms of the Act, section 20A and B, the requirements thereof, that the offences were political and were associated with the conflict of the past.  I submit that his version, if it's accepted that these people were indeed members of ANC and MK, which was in conflict with the government of the past, and that he then made full disclosure, and in terms of section 22B, he satisfied that requirement, namely that the offences were ordered by an employee of the State, here I refer to the letter by General Malan, but I'm saying even if that letter didn't exist, there was an implied authority on the employees of the State at the time to deal with political activists, either by arrest and/or killing.
	I submit further that,in terms of section 23 ...(intervention).