MR LALLA
But what I'm indicating to you, what I'm indicating to you, what I'm trying to request from you over here is that if you say that you were unaware of the details then perhaps I can to some extent understand the circumstances that we were subjected to.  What I'm saying over here is that you were aware of all the people that came to Lusaka in 1989, was it?  And all those people who came to Lusaka you had the names of those individuals and therefore I find it a bit confusing in the sense that one, you know the people that came to Lusaka.  Two, you have the disk with the names and the real names of the individuals.  How did you know that she was there?  How did you know that her name was on the disk?