LUTHANDO DYASOPHU
Yes, first of all I heard him talking about, okay, he refers to us as Askaris.  But I would like to say that I am not an Askari, I was not an Askari and none of us in that group was an Askari, for your information.
	Because Askaris actually were later, I mean around 1991, 1992 they were disbanded and when they were disbanded, they were given moneys.  I mean moneys, I wish I could get that money, but I never got that money.  So I am not an Askari.  This is for your information.
	Actually had I been an Askari, how could it happen that later the ANC now, takes me to Walmansthal and then I get to be with the new SANDF, that is a contradiction.  There is a contradiction somewhere there because I didn't go there through the SADF, I went through the ANC, I was registered as a member, former member of MK.  That is how I got to be a member of the SANDF.