MR SMUTS
No Mr Chairman, my submission is that unless there are other facts which lend support to averments in the evidence of the applicants, the Committee will not rely on the unsubstantiated evidence.  But we know as a surrounding background fact that Mr Hani was assassinated three days previously.  That is a fact which the Committee will take into consideration when it weighs their actions but when they make unsubstantiated averments, only confirming each others evidence, then in the light of the weakness of their evidence and there are a host of other reasons, I mean with respect, it's a deviation from the question posed but there wasn't a single witness who was tested against his confession, who gave honest evidence, in credible evidence regarding why he said what he said in his confession.  As witnesses, the applicants were so unimpressive that the Committee will not accept the evidence unsubstantiated.