RUSSELL ALLY
Mama, I am going to ask you something that may be a bit difficult especially in the light of the last witness, Mrs Dodo, who was speaking about what happened to her family.
 In your statement one of the people who you name making the threats, you say from the Gadaffi group, you say Pitcherman of Carletonville.  We heard earlier of a nickname Pitcherman.  Is there any connection?  Is this the same person?  Do you know or do you not know.