JUDGE WILSON
Well before you go on.  As you know we have not had an opportunity of reading the record, we are relying so far on what you have put.  You are challenging as I understand, only that Sibisi was threatened to take
them to Lydenburg, not that he was threatened on the previous evening and as I understand the evidence which I - it doesn't seem to have been challenged, I may have misunderstood, they approached Sibisi, asked him to take them to the garage which he did, he then brought them back to the house in question and apparently waited outside while they went in and did what they did and then took them home, is that the position?