DALAQOLO WORDSWORTH LUTHULI
I am not sure whether that is his real name.  They tried to explain that he knew M.Z. Khumalo and he knew about our training at Caprivi.
	He was laying a background to show that he was a close person to the IFP.   When we left that meeting, I told Sipho Mlaba or I asked him how he got involved with this people.
	He then told me that the people came to him, they were with Zakhile Mkehle and they told him that they were going to guard him or protect him.  He didn't enquire where they were coming from or who they were.
	Paul Berry explained that he was trying to collaborate with us because the situation was bad in Mpumalanga.
	I would have to help him or he would help me, if there was an area I wanted to attack so that he could inform his colleagues in the SAP before any attack was carried out.