MR NGUBANE
Thank you, Mr Chairman.  Mr Chairman, before I proceed cross-examining this witness, I would like to bring to the attention of the Members of the Committee that my cross-examination might perhaps be not cross-examination in the strict legal sense, some of the things which the witness has said in Durban, I might ask him to have reference to them without going into too much details for the benefit of the community.  Thank you, Mr Chairman.