MR MOOSA
Mr Chairman I have considered that very carefully, that is why this was not an application made except in these rather unusual circumstances.  The overriding thing, however, is not really a court of law, and the overall rights which the TRC gives is to arrive at the truth, the right to know the truth and the duty of the State to let the victims know the truth, and we have before us different versions.  We are not vouchsafing the version of Mr Coetzee in any way, but we want to be able to plum into the truth, we want that version to be tested under cross-examination so that we can finally arrive at what is the truth in the matter.