ISRAEL HLONGWANE
When I met Mr Lethuli we met in a camp called Indaga Mazolo.  Madla Induna used to come with the Willem Tunu, Walther Bongo, Nati Sebisi, Zwele and Sosha.  They used to be the guards of our meetings but they wouldn't enter but stand outside and that actually confused that at some stage  and we actually asked why these men they usually stand outside instead of coming in but Madla Induna indicated that they couldn't come in.  That's how we met these people at the IFP meeting and then I also met them at the Mkuzi Camp.