MR STEENKAMP
I only managed to get hold of this document this morning Mr Chairman.  ...[indistinct] never asked for the Regional Court.  I can just put it on record, maybe I must put it on record.  I saw in the  application there was a Regional Court Case Number and I asked the Regional Court and the investigating officer to go and have a look in the Regional Court and see if we can trace this plea of guilty, which we did.