LAURENS MBATHA
I am sorry, Sir, I was just avoiding the redundancy, because when I started I did explain the situation regarding the uncertainty.  You say, if you recall well, I did make mention of the Pollo Park incident, I did make mention that around the area, the military base of the very same structure that I have mentioned, that is the AWB, their training has been intensifying and my distinction regarding that force and the security forces it was, there was no difference, because they were clearly, actually, stating their support that they had.  Thirdly, Sir, at that very same stage, the disappearance of weapons from military bases was clear evidence that that thing could not be done without the involvement of people within inside.
	That was the time when that whole process was escalating.  That is the situation that I referred to, was building up and had abnormalities and the repression, again, within the Bop situation, Bophuthatswana.  So, a person like myself, with a military background, experiencing all those problems, because it is very clear, when you talk in terms of arms are disappearing, you are not talking of arms to be stored, they will be utilised somewhere.  Whether when, it is what one, actually, should strive to search and try and find, but, unfortunately, as I have said, at the end of the day, the capacity, the understanding, it is at that stage, with your own initiative, when you read the situation that you start preparing yourselves for it.  
	It was not long ago, on the very same area in Kuruman, a house was located, I personally had to go down, it was full of arms.  We never, actually, could conclude exactly, because we had to go through the maid who linked us up to the area and later, three days later that maid was chased away, out of that house.  So, the areas of the weapons disappearing from the military bases, like I have indicated, the actions that took place nationally at that time, yes, it is true, the situation was, we adhered, the organisation adhered to the Peace Secretariat, but activities on the ground clearly showed that the parties that you referred to as opponents that time, were not prisoners to those agreements and it has become very evident to us, this Commission, when people testified, because of those fears that one had, that this was the intention, this was the applied, this was the head political motivation, because they ended up, lately, acting out of those things, conducting blasts.
	This is how, by then, the situation that I regarded was building up and my perception, actually, was linked out of those conditions.  That is all that I am driving to define now.