NORMAN ARENDSE
Well I don't think it would be fair for me to allege - I did say that I know Mr Segal as a very able, the late Mr Segal, as a very able and competent investigating officer who did his job well, sometimes more than well, but I would be surprised that Mr Segal wouldn't have extracted a photograph of Mr Ntsebeza somewhere after he had been linked to the white Audi and put it in front of Mr Sibaya who was so very sure that it is him.  Do you want to comment Mr Sibaya?