MR WILLS
Thank you Mr Chairperson.  Mr van der Westhuizen, there were a number of other people who were present on the day and apart from their statements, there is very little that has emerged so far as to what their actual roles were, so what I want you to try and assist me with is to recall as far as you can remember, exactly what roles these people played.  I first want to start off with Jakob Albertus Coetzer, his statement is in the second Bundle from page 101, but  I will be referring you to certain aspects thereof, but prior to that, can you tell us to the best of your recollection, what he did on the day in question, starting from the arrest?  He indicated that he was present at the arrest?