MR KAHANOVITZ
What is the relevance of working in Zambia and Namibia and those places in relation to working in KwaZulu Natal?  You see just to compare you to Mr van Zyl, for example, he was supposed to work in the Cape and he set up structures so that he could do that and he did, but he didn't work in Swaziland, he didn't work in Lesotho, he didn't work in Namibia.