MR PANDAY
And I would refer you to paragraph 6, I want to read it out to you.  Mr Shezi in paragraph 6 states the following, he says that
"I wish to further state that I knew the late Ndukuzepi Mkhize as a person who was respected in the community especially by adults that used to visit my stepfather, Mr Mabu Mjla at home."
Now isn't that in total contradiction to what you say ...(indistinct)  as I did find is in Mr Mkhize's target?