TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  We do not know because they used to come in the morning as well as in the evening and they would assault us asking us as to where the guns were and we would tell them we do not know anything about guns.  And the other policeman asked me as to how am I going to protect myself if I do not have a gun.  They could not find any guns in our houses.  Because we were now divided at that time and we were told that this side was ANC and the other side was the ANC(?) and the Inkatha members were parading with their guns and they were having them in public.  Zakhele is at school.  He's doing Standard 4 and they are writing their final year exams.