MR MBANDAZAYO
Mr Chairman, as usual I will start with paragraph 7, I won't go through the other portions of the affidavit.  I'm reading from paragraph 7
"I was deployed in March in Welkom by the Director of Special Operations and Deputy-Director of Operations, Sipho Mulelane Thuma"
Now, Mr Ngesi, can you tell the Committee whether you knew Mr Thuma by the name which is in your affidavit, or is there any other name which you know him by?