MR MBANDAZAYO
Thank you, Mr Chairman.  I just, first before I ask one question.  Mr Martens, accept my sympathy for what you went through during the attack, and your family.  My question is, Mr Martens, the reason you are saying that the applicant must stay in jail, he must not be granted amnesty, is because he is not showing any sympathy for what you went through, or any regrets of what he had done.  That's the only reason that you are saying no, he must not be granted amnesty?