MS MTSINGWA
Like I said that we saw this - this thing on TV and on papers.  I don't know if I saw this correctly but we saw this - these guns were on their bodies.  I don't know what happened, I don't know what happened right from the start.  I don't know where were they, when they were shot.  But I only saw that the guns were on their bodies, I saw this on TV and in the papers.
 But now I couldn't actually identify my own son, amongst the bodies.  Because I didn't know at that time that my son was one of the seven but it was later that I - that I realised that he was one of the Guguletu 7.