PAUL PHILLIPUS FRANCOIS FUCHS
Perhaps before I answer that, I want to say to the Commission or to the Committee, that Matthews and I mention him by name, we worked together for about eight years.  We worked on the same floor of the same building.  We were on very good terms, not only the two of us, but I was on good terms with all my Black colleagues and I think my advantage was that I could speak their language.
	I have absolutely no idea why Matthews said such a thing.