DR BORAINE
And I call as the next witnesses a Mr Richard Phikani and Madodomzi Kama, I'll just wait until the earphones are in place. I will call upon the next witnesses, Richard Phikani and Madodomzi Kama.  Am I correct in assuming that Mr Phikani and Mr Kama were both be speaking.
Okay thank you very much indeed, I would like to welcome all three of you here to this hearing and once again to express our appreciation for giving time to share with the Commission and indeed with the country.
Some of the things would have been happening so that we can have as best a  picture as possible of the developments in our own country.  I understand that you will be telling us about the death or killing of your brother in law.