MR MBANDAZAYO
Thank you Chairperson.
	Chairperson, if I may proceed and read the affidavit of Mr Kgotlhe in regard to the second incident?
"I, the undersigned, Able Lerato Kgotlhe, do hereby make an oath and say that I'm the applicant in the above matter having submitted my application whilst being held at Grootvlei Maximum Prison, Bloemfontein, the facts to which I depose are true and correct and within my personal knowledge unless the context indicates otherwise.  I was born in 1971 at Hoopstad, Free State Province, grew up in Wesselsbron where I did my primary education up to Standard 6 in 1984.  In 1985 my family moved to Botshabelo near Thaba Nchu where I left school at Standard 8 due to financial problems.  I joined PAC through Azania in 1986.  In 1990 I left the country through Zimbabwe to Tanzania where I joined Apla and did my military training.  I came back from Tanzania at the end of 1990 and I was posted at the PAC headquarters under the command of comrade Inox Zulu and the late Jan Shoba.  Late 1991 I was deployed in the Free State Province, I was involved in about 7 operations and I have applied amnesty for all of them.  I confirm that I was involved in the Ficksburg Townhouse attack.  We were a unit of 5 operatives.  It was myself, Nduna, Kenny, Roger, Scorpion and Max.  I was ..."
Chairperson, just for the clarity of the Committee, Max is the second applicant, Luvuyo Kuluman, Kenneth Kuluman.
"I was the commander of the unit.  Our target was the old age home.  I was armed with 9 mm pistol and grenades.  Nduna armed with pistol and grenades and others armed with grenades and Molotovs.  It was our decision that if there is any ammunition, grenades and Molotovs left after the attack at the old age home we will use them to attack the town houses.  Apla regarded the Free State especially as a bastion of White inherent folkism.  It was one of the stronghold of the AWB which represented the White inherent folkism.  We travelled from Lesotho to Ficksburg on foot.  On our way to the old age home we met police vehicle patrol.  We retreated and myself and Max entered a yard of a certain townhouse.  Whilst in the yard with Max I shot the police vehicle and it sped off.  The other comrades were no longer around.  Myself and Max threw Molotovs in this house whose yard we were, we thereafter retreated and I threw a grenade in another house and it hit the window and fell on the parking area and destroyed the car which was parked there.  We then went back to Lesotho.  Apla's mode of thinking and indeed operation did not distinguish between soft and hard targets nor indeed between military and civilian targets.  When it comes to White South African society.  We were simply fighting against criminals who sustained the apartheid system.  Anybody who was playing part in moving apartheid forward and those who supported it were therefore criminals.  This was the mode of thinking in the Apla code during the struggle.  I respectfully submit that my application complies with the requirements of the Act and that I've made full and proper disclosure of my involvement in the Ficksburg Townhouse attack and accordingly humbly request that my application for amnesty be granted."
Thank you Chairperson.  
	Mr Kgotlhe, can you take the Committee through with your decision to attack the old age home.  Who took the decision and the planning and why was it the specifically the target, the old age home?