SNOEKIE MZAMBU
It is difficult to explain before the Commission because as a leader I wouldn't know exactly as to how old were they because there were so many. Only the relatives can know about their ages.  Some of them I could just estimate and say, well like one of them Makateni (indistinct) organisation of (indistinct) so his sons, I know them.  This Makateni I know.  So the others I may not be able to know.  But all I know again about that Banda was shot dead while he was from work at Third Avenue and (indistinct) at 9th Avenue.  The magistrate in turn ... in a letter which was written by Mr Huyzen the attorney, he says here in the letter
"Permission is hereby granted in terms of the authorisation given to me by the Honourable Minister of Law and Order as contained in GN 582
ALEXANDRA HEARING TRC/GAUTENG
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dated 27 March 1986 to hold a gathering at the Alexandra cemetery for the burial of the undermentioned deceased on Saturday 17 May 1988 at times set out below".
Now it reads as follows, the time which was scheduled by the government now to us to tell us how should we bury our dead ones.  He said that Banda, his funeral service will start at half past one and to half past two.  Colin Dothli, his service will start at two o'clock to three o'clock.  Elias Nduli was scheduled to be buried at half past two to half past three.  Woes Dube from three to four.  Saphinium Dagane half past three to half past four.  Albion Makateni two o'clock to three o'clock.  Bele Sangwane, half past two to half past three.  Jacob Pefadu three o'clock to four o'clock.  And we were told that only the ordained ministers will perform on that service.  And the restrictions which were given to us is that the bodies will not be carried on the shoulders but into the hearse.  People were angry by that time.  Such restrictions they wouldn't stand for them.  They couldn't stand definitely for them and we couldn't do nothing even if those restrictions were given to us to conduct them, we couldn't do nothing.  The ministers which were scheduled to conduct the service, it was Reverend Madisha, Reverend A Matuma, Reverend M M Dhlamini, Reverend J L Makweba, Reverend S Mavula, Reverend Ganagomo, Reverend N A Ntombeni, Reverend Langa.  I was scheduled to be an MC on the (indistinct).  Another funeral which we - in fact let me just finish up again this part.  How we buried these people we went, I personally went with the other comrades from ACO to Puni's Undertakers at Lenasia.  We asked them for full funeral service.  If those people are here I would
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like to thank them very much.  Those are the people which did the great job for our people. It was very fine what they did, they gave us free of charge full service of the whole service.  Not only in this funeral.  In the following mass funerals that we had which is ....