CHAIRPERSON
Does it really matter Ms Moloisane?  We shouldn't waste time on this issue.  Does it really matter who ultimately fired a shot?  I'm sure if his gun had had the necessary ammunition he would have fired the shot.  After Mhlongo had issued the order, he didn't leave the unit because he did not want to execute the order, so let's move on.  You don't need to waste time on that one.
	The only problem which I have, which I might mention, is that when you mention the evidence of Ms Mokoena you will also have had to have regard to the evidence of Mr Gqiba, that the activities of these women were not public knowledge.  That's the evidence that was given by Mr Gqiba who was called to support the applicants' applications, and the applicants' applicant was founded on the fact that it was common knowledge that these persons were committing certain activities which were considered unacceptable, which therefore rendered them to be enemies of the community.