MR MASANGO
Well as I've said I was the political commissar of the people and we were freely interacting with the people of Winterveld.  Obviously one would have firstly got the information from, because I was personally not there at the massacre, I would have got the information from the media, whatever media.  After that you'd talk to the people, not necessarily exposing yourself as to who you are, you would talk to them because we were meeting with them, they were telling us and more so I have said that I had a relationship, an affair with a resident of Winterveld who was telling me all these things without exposing myself to her, my real identification.
	During that interaction with the people we discovered that Molope was more involved actually than the massacre itself.  We knew that he was responsible for setting up roadblocks.  We knew that each and every political activity against Mangope's Bantustan there, he will be the first one, amongst the first ones to stand up and fight against the people.
	We knew of students who were arrested.  We knew of many people who were tortured in prison, Molope and Mokobojane were there.