MS P BERLIN
Is the microphone on?  Yes, okay I don't have a light here so I don't know.  Yes I am going to do a sort of summary of the first paragraphs here and the statement, just to get as conveniently as possible to the more relevant parts.  I see here in paragraphs 2, 3 and 4 that you come from Port Elizabeth and that you stayed in Port Elizabeth until 1969 where you also studied, and in 1969 you were 14 years old, and that is when your uncle arranged for you to visit your father in Rhodesia, more particularly in Bulawayo, and after you came back from that visit which lasted three weeks, you wished to return to Rhodesia and your mother did not want you to, but you went to Rhodesia anyway and met your father again and stayed there and furthered your studies in Rhodesia and that you came back to Port Elizabeth in 1975, and that was when you were approximately 20 years old.  Is this correct?