BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
Those were matters of public knowledge to everybody, I told you yesterday, but let's leave it there. I am going to ask you a question.  Did not Mr Bokaba come to you and say here is a gentlemen who was attached to the security branch in Bloemfontein; they have used him in many operations, amongst which were the bombings of houses, the  clinic of Mrs Mandela, we can use him here in Mamelodi; he can do the same thing?  He has done these things before?