WOUTER J BASSON
No, I can't remember specifically when Mr Botha and Mr Barnard had been arrested, but I think even before they were arrested we looked specifically at - I think with a view to Mr de Klerk taking over, we looked at the rationalisation of projects.  In other words the idea was that projects had to be reduced.  It was actually a period of waiting and I confirm that Region 6 at that stage had no involvement in the carrying out of offensive projects.