MR SANDI
I'm sorry for the interruption Mr Belling, before we conclude and I hand you over to the Chairman I see that in the statement there's something about psychological treatment.  Would you like to explain that very briefly?
MR BELLING (SNR): Yes, he was sent in for psychological treatment to sort of rehabilitate his mind and so on.  Coming from that area of shock that they went through has actually built up a lot of trauma in these guys and still now it's never to be forgotten.  He did go to Doctor Woods and he went on treatment and then Doctor Woods said that there's nothing much that they can do for the simple reason that it's got to be dealt with by him personally that he himself is the only one who can rehabilitate himself and sort it out.  This was after Doctor Woods had gone through him.  I can give you the name too.  Doctor Woods.   Treatment did not improve any symptoms at all.  He did not improve after the treatment he had with the Psychologists.  So he did go through all that and the specialist turned around and said he'll have to go through with it but how long it's going to take him is another story but these guys cannot forget the stuff.