MR MBANDAZAYO
Yes, Mr Chairman, you can take it up after that if you are not happy.  He's saying that after they had stopped and approached this man, the Vuyo or Vuyosile was in the front.  Because he was a recruit, he was a new recruit from them.  He did not mention APLA.  So he did not have a chance to correct him to say no, it's not Umkhonto weSizwe, it's APLA.  So he ended up agreeing that it's Umkhonto weSizwe with him.  It was Vuyosile who said "we are Umkhonto weSizwe".  He was a new recruit, not know maybe the difference.  I don't know.  That's how I interpret it.