FERDIE HARTZENBERG
Mr Chair, perhaps I have a third viewpoint and do not agree with either of the two points of view.  I think my point of view is that a political party's work is - in political manner, to achieve it's objectives and under those circumstances which we found ourselves, we said politically we would do everything in our capacity to achieve our liberty in a certain portion of South Africa and maintain it there and if we are attacked we have the right to defend ourselves - that's my point of view.