MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, may it please you and honourable members of the Committee, I'm instructed by attorneys Wagener, Muller and Du Plessis.  My name for the record is Louis Visser.  I act for two applicants before you, J.G. Raath and G.N. Erasmus and I also act for three persons who received Section 19: Sub-Section 4 notifications, Brigadier Schoon - I may add that these are on a little note which we've received Mr Chairman, and you can follow it on there, it is Brigadier Schoon, General Johan Coetzee and J.S. Vermeulen, those are the three implicated persons for whom we also appear.