MR BOOYENS
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	Mr Chairman, the witness seems to have taken his papers to the back, may he just go and fetch it?   May I just tender our apologies to the Commission Mr Chairman.
	We are now on page 14 of your application, we are looking at the political objectives.  Just to summarise briefly, we've reached the stage where you've stated to us that there was pressure, there were political statements and there was pressure from your headquarters.   Now Mr van Rensburg, you have already heard the testimony of Mr Erasmus and he said that there was a so-called Security Management System in position - in place, is that correct?