CHAIRPERSON
If you take a look at paragraph 10 of Mr Khotle's affidavit.  You see Mr Khotle, the previous witness says that the unit which shot at the Vanderbijl ambush, which shot at the people inside a motor car was himself, Solly, that's Zola Mabala which is yourself, the commander and Boysi.  Now the commander there is that Jan, do you confirm that it was Jan?