CHAIRPERSON
But Ms Van der Walt, that is precisely what I was pointing out to you a few moments ago.
	I think we as the panel are capable of omitting that because it is hearsay.   The fact that he has mentioned this in his application, we are aware that this is hearsay and that he said something negative about certain people, is an issue to be cleared up with them at a later stage.
	We are not here to guard there characters.