MR METSING
The ANC was doing a lot - we did a lot of work - and we were working very well with the people.  And even these kitskonstabels, that were shooting people - the people were being told that you cannot walk around with a gun in front of the children.   And people would just be shot.  It you see somebody drunk, you just shoot at a drunk person, because there are children that run around here to.