CHAIRPERSON
Well, I don't know whether we should really stop and check our notes, because we don't have the record, I told you yesterday that we are always the last people to receive the transcribed record, but Mr Prinsloo, I don't understand, are you saying that in his papers Kloppers says the order was given, he conveyed the order at the roadhouse, but in his evidence he says it was conveyed at Martin's house, is that what you're saying?