MR ROSSOUW
Mr Chairman, let me first say that I'm not aware of what arrangements were made with Mr Lamey as far back as September, my apologies for that.  I know that endeavours were made by applicant Fourie to be here, to arrange for a bus ticket to come through to Nelspruit today, to testify here.  He phoned me this morning and informed me that he was not able to do that.  Apparently the problem is that he is involved in a year-end audit at his place of employ and that's the reason why he could not get away.
	Mr Chairman and I've also been informed that apparently that was due to the short notice of the hearing.  I do not know when notice was given to him.  The only aspect that I can place on record as far as that is concerned, is that these matters and the roll was provided to me on the 2nd of October.