CHAIRPERSON
Well, that is so, that is the view of the Appeal Court, but I'm talking about the situation at the trial court and I want your response on that.  That's what the court that tried you, the first court that heard your case, Judge President of this Division at that stage, that's what he found.  He drew the conclusion that all this happened because you were looking for muti, now do you wish to comment on that at all?