MABIJA
It was Du Plessis but I'm not to sure but I think it was Du Plessis.  And Oscar was also speaking.  I don't know what Oscar said but I know that Du Plessis did say that.  I was looking at Phakamile and because of doing so I didn't have much time to listen to what the policemen were saying because I became sick when I looked at Phakamile's face.