ADV SANDI
I thought the evidence there was that these so-called ANC scholars were preventing those people who were affiliated to the Black Cats, they were preventing them from attending school.  They didn't kill them, there was no evidence that they were assaulting them, they were simply preventing them from attending that particular school.  Now the reaction we were told by the applicant, was to kill them.  Now where does that put us in terms of proportionality?