MR TSHABALALA
What I'm saying is, what I remember doing in locating Sicelo is what I have just explained as well as phoning the DPSC.  If you say there are people from DPSC who will say they saw me with Sicelo at that time, I will not disagree or agree with it.  With regards to the question if there was a reason why I would not go to the office at that time, my response is I do not know.
	I must say that the situation that prevails now is different from the one that prevailed at the time.  It is difficult to remember everything that happened.