MR VISSER
Yes, I'm going to refer you to the second page of
that document.  The fax, typewritten page is 03 on the right top 
side.  Now according to documentation received by us from the 
Investigation Unit of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, 
there is this document and I want to tell you what it says.  
It says: 
"Perpetrator Motsamai (SB) Security Branch picked
them, Mohape, White, Musamjani(?).  Human rights 
violation type:
it says:
"HRV type - severe ill treatment, severely beaten."
Now do you recall that you spoke to an investigator of the TRC about this incident?