MR MAKHAWULA
Yes, it was during the day.  It was between three and four in the afternoon.  They just came in my house and they relaxed and after a while, they went out and they left.
 I was surprised by that, I was asking myself why did they come to my house because they did not talk to me, until we went to sleep.  At night on that day, we heard that the house was burning down.  It was then that we realised that their presence here during the day, they were looking for his house, they were trying to find out who was sleeping in one room and they were studying my house at that time
CRADOCK HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE
8 M MAKHAWULA
because they just came in and they talked to each other.
 My wife was there and Buthas was there, but they didn't talk with us, they just talked amongst themselves.