ADV LOURENS
Yes, if I might just one aspect in reply to my learned friends' remarks.  I would submit that applicants number two and three, in all probability, do not understand what common purpose is about.  I do not think their evidence was a denial of their guilt, as such, as according to how the trial court convicted them. Their evidence for this, before this Committee was about their involvement in the events of that day and that is what I would ask the Committee to consider.  Their evidence regarding their own involvement.  Thank you Mr Chairman, I have no further submissions.