MR VERSTER
It was discussed with them, Mr Chairperson, but I do know that in the statements of some of the people there is the perception that they would be protected.  It could have been understood by the members who worked for me, that the structure would organise legal representation and that we were in a bigger system and how we functioned and how attempts would be made to help anyone who ran into difficulties.  But I think that in some of the witnesses, or some of the evidence, I was quoted as saying that we would receive indemnity and it could be in the handling of the Defence Act, and there is a section in the Defence Act where it is said that amnesty and the treatment of the safety of the State and that under this element of the Defence Act, it would be transferred.  And it is in this  regard that members thought that they would get indemnity and it was treated like this and it was discussed and from my side it was undertaken to give them protection.