ADV STEENKAMP
Mr Chairman, I would like to ask permission to ask this next question, although the applicant is not applying for amnesty for this.  He is referring on page 3 and as well as the evidence in chief, to another family member, Mr Moses Mtshwene.
	My instructions are that I have to ask the applicant if he knows what happened to Mr Moses Mtshwene, who died ten days after the deceased, who is the victim in this matter, Patricia, if that could be allowed?  Thank you Mr Chairman.
	Sir, you referred to Mr Moses Mtshwene, that is also the son or the brother, I mean, of the deceased, Patricia, are you aware of this?