CHAIRPERSON
I think Mr Radebe was an active person from the look of things, but the fact of the matter ids, if one is cognisant to the evidence of Mr Mhlango who was the commander, the members present when he issued the order included Mr Mkhwanazi, and his order was that any of them should kill Ms Ndumo and Ms Mokoena on sight.  So the fact that he really acted under orders doesn't take the matter any further.  We still are saddled with a profound problem of what weight to attack to Mkhwanazi's evidence which stands in stark contrast to the evidence given by a host of witnesses that you called to support both the applications.  I understand your difficulty.