ADV GCABASHE
Mr Erasmus please just help me with this, as I understand it, and do correct me if I'm wrong, your involvement in this particular matter largely turns on the decision you took with Mr du Plessis and Mr van Rensburg to eliminate Sizwe Kondile.  As I understand it, that was a rational decision taken by skilled persons who thought this through and decided rationally this is the only way out.  The evidence you have given yesterday and this morning largely and correct me if I'm wrong, turns on the political background, your emotional state, your upbringing; what has that got to do with the rational decision you felt you were forced to take at the end of the day.  And if I've misunderstood you, please just correct me.