NYAMEKA GONIWE
Very much part of that. I guess I was protecting myself.  We had two inputs, the one was such a circus.  It ended after a very very short while.  You know after the family was engaged in trying to get the first inquest to be opened up, you know they wanted to have just a closed matter and deal with it as quickly as possible, we fought over that, using our lawyers and then it was opened up a little bit.  But as you know, nothing came out of that, the first one.
 And then we had to go through a long inquest, and we were bruised by it, emotionally and physically, and I guess we had high hopes as well.  I remember when the finding was announced, we were so disappointed.  I don't know what we were expecting at the end, so I suppose we are approaching the Commission in the same sort of light.  That is me.
 The second reluctance was over not knowing what it is, that's going to happen here, I had little information. But now that I am here I'm sort of humbled by the experiences of the others.  I'm happy to say, I'm happy that I came.