AZHAR CACHALIA
I had put it to him that it was, I put it to the applicant.  I had put to the applicant that it was common cause that there was a dispute about the posters on the 11th of February that the Friday and that I put it that it was settled between Mr Sithole and ANC officials on the Friday.  That matter was sorted out.  And I think the answer was, sorry I don't know want to presume the answer.