N JACK MENERA
We had a very good relationship, even that we had a conflict before but it was not visible after our reconciliation. What I would explain is that after being a member of Michael it happened that one day comrades, I would say Virginia comrades, went together with Edward Phelane from Brandfort to Virginia, to go and fetch the dynamite.  It happened that on their return from Virginia to Brandfort, Edward Phelane, as he was the driver to fetch that dynamite from Virginia, was detained together with the comrades who went to Virginia.  Edward Phelane became the state witness in that case, and those comrades were convicted and were at Grootvlei in those years 1986.  It happened that in 1986 we were arrested together with Morgan Phelane, it was on the 12th of June 1986, we were detained under the State of Emergency.
	It happened that during that detention the comrades who were detained then in 1986, I'm not sure of the number but approximately it was about 100, all of those people who were detained were members of AZAPO, PAC and ANC. No one knew when he would be released.  I was surprised to learn from Mr Morgan Phelane that when he told us together with Mnani(?) that next week, the following week he would be released from prison. That happened, he was released from detention.  After his detention, we asked ourselves that for...