MR VISSER
Yes, the problem is just where one falls through the hole of that quarter you see Mr Coetzee but be that as it may.  You see I also want to put to you that you're glossing over your mistakes which you have made in the past especially people whom you have implicated innocently in serious crimes is not something which you say is insignificant - an insignificant mistake, it's a very serious matter Mr Coetzee.