MR POTGIETER
Thank you very much Mr Sandi.  And thank you Mr Jack and also the rest of you, and in her absence Thobeka.  Just when one thinks one is able to handle this process and one is able to handle the situation then you are confronted at the end of a long session like this with your testimony, and it brings one right down to earth again.
 Mr Mpunga you throw out a challenge to us.  You raise a very, very fundamental and difficult question, forgiveness, amnesty, those issues and you do it at a time when you share the podium with Thobeka who shares her story with us, the way in which this incident has affected her and the situation she is experiencing at this stage.  And again it brings that human element into what is regarded academically otherwise as an incident, statistics.  It is very difficult that you have raised.  The question of forgiveness we will never be able to resolve.  We are faced with a situation where there was compromise, compromise means that you don't get everything that you want, it's give and take, that's what a compromise is all about, and that is where most of the difficulty of the question that you have raised comes in.  But thank you for the challenge and thank you for reminding us of how difficult this process really is.  I wish you luck, all of you.  Thank you very much for coming.