MR STEPHENS
Not a chance, noways.  Because the entrance of Shell House is on the southern side of Plein Street, and they were a good 50/60 metres away, and on the wrong side of the road as well, it was around the corner.  So I would not say - I'd say that would be totally untrue.  I actually phoned the Citizen the next day because what they had reported in the papers, I - but then the journalist phoned me back and she said that she would come see me the next day, but then the next day she didn't come so I phoned them up and they said no, that she had suddenly taken leave, so that was the last of it.  Because I actually - I couldn't believe what I actually read in the papers, because I was there, I actually saw it.