MR LANDMAN
Mr Chairman, we submit that it is relevant to look at the context within which those questions were posed.  The questions were posed in the context of another member of the Committee, asking questions as to whether or not these were affiliated groups or not so you now have a situation of well, maybe the Boere Krisis Aksie as an organisation is somehow affiliated to the AWB, that is what came out from Adv Bosman's questioning.
	Mr Malan, however, went much further than that.  What he then suggested to the witness and indeed, this was - it was put in a sense and certainly it came across from this side, that this is how he in fact sees the situation.  This is how it should be seen, namely that these are merely pseudonyms, these are names which are used behind which the AWB members hide, whereas in fact it is AWB members and AWB policy and planning which has been put into effect behind these pseudonyms.  That of course is one ...