BONGANI KHUMALO
He explained to me that the organisation wanted firearms, anything that I could lay my hands on at the farms where he sent me and he asked me whether I knew the place he was going to send me to.  He asked me whether I knew the ...(indistinct) area.  I told him yes, I know the area.  He then explained to me that he wanted me to go and assist there in the farmers around that area and he said:  "Well, you will choose the day you want to go, that is if you have found a suitable time."  In other words, the place I was going to, I was not provided with a weapon.  How I was going to carry out the instruction was on my shoulders as to how I get there.
	When I arrived at this farm at Riets, that's where I met Jabulani Shabalala, but his other name is Dladla and this is the person I familiarised myself with at that farm and I wanted information about a white man called Odendaal as to what did he have, what was going on because it looked like he had been employed at that farm for quite a long time, but at that time there were not many employees.