MR STOFILE
Thank you Chairperson I'm indebted.
	There's some aspects that have already been covered, I'm just going, passing over them, if you can just bear with me?
	You are saying that at all material times the interrogation was carried in your presence?  In the case of Matoti, who was present when the time he was interrogated.  Let's start from here, who fetched him from the place of work?