CHAIRPERSON
That is your evidence.  It's approximately then.  You were not precise.  You were estimating.  According to the evidence of Mr Mabusa however, you initially joined, you were recruited or went into his unit, in May.  He then appointed you to go to Sasolburg for a course for a month.  When you came back not only were you a member but you were second in charge to him.  That's in June 1992.