MR MALAN
You are saying that you believe that that was the idea, that you think it was discussed as such and I would like you to go back please, because you have said that the actual discussion took place at the safe house in Pietermaritzburg, the final test.
	You said that you also made yourself aware of it then and in your application you create the impression that it occurred there, but Mr Botha has indicated to us that the test had already been applied previously.  If she had not cooperated, the other questions would never have been asked, the replacement and so forth.	
	She would either cooperate or she would die.  That was the case?