MR SIBANYONI
Thank you, Mr Chairperson.  Mr Mhlaba, I would like to hear you on these two issues:  number one, the fact that this SDU was supposed to be underground.  Mohomane calls it an underground cell.  If I'm not mistaken, Mr Mofokeng, Jack Mofokeng it was supposed not to be known by the community, the other one was known by the community.
	And the second issue being the fact that their instruction was to shoot and kill the police and not take their firearms.  Can we hear you on those two issues?