JUDGE MGOEPE
And then he actually says that when he did this he did this on the orders, whether that was true or not is something that we are still going to decide upon, but he said he was a member of the South African Police and he said that he did that on the orders of the police, and I suggested that this applicant would seem to be entitled to the services of a State attorney, and I mentioned that point deliberately because we are being criticised by some of the people, or rather questions have been directed to us with regard to the quality, and I am not saying that any other type of representation would not be of adequate quality but, queries have been directed to us with regard to the type of legal representation that is being enjoyed by certain people while other people are not entitled to it.  And I specifically requested that in order to avoid that kind of criticism this particular, because he was a police office, a policeman, must also be represented by the State attorney, or at least enquiries be made as to whether or not he too should not be represented by the State attorney.  It seems to me that course was not followed.