CHAIRPERSON
Well, we understand that you have the right to cross-examine the witness but I think at some point we've got to get to the issues that are before us so that we do not prolong these hearing unnecessarily.  This witness, from what he says, is that he doesn't know Boipatong.  Perhaps it may save time if you just put your version of the description of the area to him so that we can get to the point.