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Yes, he said he was a member of the National Party and this was also said by my learned friend in his submission, but the fact I am trying to put on record, is that no policy of the National Party that one could draw an inference from, that they did this because of this policy.  This evidence was not put on record. Save that he was a member of the National Party, full stop.  That is just the point that I am trying to make.