MR DU TOIT
I honestly can't tell you.  You must remember that this took place ten or eleven years ago, so I can't remember.  I do know that Mr Magloi called me and that I then saw a couple of people sitting down there.  They were middle-age or even elderly people, they weren't young people.  But I can't remember who they were.
 I immediately made the appointment and I think I went back and told Mr Magloi when the meeting took place and where.  And they then went off to the meeting on their own.  I honestly can't remember who these people were.