NORMAN ARENDSE
Mr Chairman, firstly it seems to me that Section 32 should not be considered in isolation and that what brings into play 32 in an amnesty matter, is an application which is made in terms of 19.1 of the Act.  In other words where someone is implicated as a result of an application for amnesty which is submitted in terms of Section 19.1.  Now, clearly there's nothing on the application forms that implicates Mr Ntsebeza.
	I acknowledge what Mr Prior's saying that in some respects - in respect of Madasi and Mabala, that these forms do not contain sufficient information but even then during the course of this proceeding if his name had cropped up, then it would be appropriate that the proceedings be stopped and that an implicated person then be given the warning that is required by 32 - that's the first thing.