MR KAHANOVITZ
You didn't?  Now, I am going to put it to you that the reason you didn't apply for amnesty in respect of the Roskam incident, has got nothing to do with the version that you are putting forward now, that you received legal advice of the sort that you claim, when you and the other members of the CCB, who are applying for amnesty here, filled out the forms and attached the statements, your approach was to only apply for amnesty for those things that you were aware of, that other people already knew about.  You were only prepared to talk about those things that were already out in the public domain, by and large as a consequence of what happened during the Harms Commission?