MR BERGER
The statement which I was reading to you earlier, I was dealing with the statement of Jakobus Daniel Venter, and he says in paragraph 5, Exhibit L1, that he made a U-turn at Cape Gate and came back towards the open area of ground.  This would be the open area of ground between Boipatong and Frikkie Meyer Boulevard.
	He says that when they arrived there, he saw that there was a group of approximately 500 people.  One in that group, stood up, made a hand signal and the others followed him.
	Does that ring any bells, do you know what this man is talking about?