MR P DU PLESSIS
Very well.  The final point with regard to the Lubowski matter that I would like to deal with is the report of the TRC to the State President, which was submitted here as Exhibit D.  This matter is dealt with in terms of Lubowski.  There are just one or two aspects about this that I would like to touch upon with you.  Before I get to that, however, after your involvement with the CCB, we know that the Harms Commission came into being early in 1990.