MR BERGER
Well, Chairperson, because we were notified in February, we've had schedules rearranged, diaries rearranged.  Without wanting to put too much stress on this point, the first applicant is the chief of the South African National Defence Force, the second applicant is also a General in the SANDF, the third applicant is also a high ranking official.  To have the diaries rearranged, is just going to cause problems that, bluntly put, we can do without, Chairperson.  We're dealing with busy people and to get everyone here today hasn't been easy.  It's going to be very difficult to convene us all again.