MR BLACK
Okay.  Now did they return after they had caused havoc amongst the customers and were sjamboking people and you got them out of the shopping complex?  What I want to get at, you said at one stage that they were also expressing - you heard them saying that you think that you are better
than us.  Is that so?  What else did you hear them say, did they say that you think that you are better than us, you said something like that?