JOE MAMASELA
On the ground that Koole collaborated.  He was merely here to collaborate about the watch, that he saw me steel the watch and sell it to Warrant Officer Beeslaar for R30.  So that is why I say the crux, the gist of his statement was, he personally saw Mamasela steal the watch from one of the deceased, Mr Hashe.
	And I stole the watch and I went to police officer, a white police officer and then I sold it to him and he is a Warrant Officer of 27 years police experience and I was just a mere Askari.  Why didn't he arrest me there and then?  And if you steal something the last person you want to see is a policeman, especially a white policeman. 
	Now Mamasela steals and he goes to a white policeman and here's a veteran of 27 years in the police force watching and rubbing his hands gleefully and congratulating Mamasela.  Ten years, he says: "No I saw Mamasela steal".  I mean that's bungledash you know, you can see for yourself.