TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  We even told Mr Gasa, the one who has just given evidence.  We went to him where he was in hiding and we told him what had happened.  There was also Mrs Nyembe.  As Mr Gasa had already said that now children were burying other children we could not go to the funeral.  Even my neighbours never went to the funeral because they were scared to go to the funeral.  They were scared that they would be victimised.  It was quite a scary situation.  It was like something from a horror movie.  We reported the matter to the police, but as it has already been said that the police were in collusion with Inkatha, as well as Amabutho, because according to what we are told was that Amabutho was comprised of about 200 members.  They were the ones who were chasing my son.  There were certain threats that we received later on.  These were from well known people like Wellington Sabela, as he has already been mentioned.  He even said to me that I must watch my dog, because I will miss it.  My dog should stop doing whatever it was doing.  Even my neighbours at V Section knew that I had those threats, because he said Thubelihle was a big catch.  Even a member of the Council at the A as well as the V Section he also told me that I should restrain my dog, because when his house was burnt down at A Section my dog was there, so he said that something was going to happen to my dog.  I was very shattered.  He is one of the people who threatened us.  His name was Cele.  He was a member of the Council.  He's the one who threatened me at some stage, and I know that he is a member of Inkatha.  And I was not surprised when Thubelihle died, and I was not surprised at the manner in which he died.  He wasn't attending school any more because he was scared that they would get him at school.  He would at some stage run, and decided that he would go to Tanzania.  They couldn't study even at school, so they decided that it was better for them to run to Tanzania, but I dissuaded him from going to Tanzania, but I gathered that his friend went to Tanzania.  Now I regret it today.  I feel that had he gone to Tanzania probably he would have been alive.  I was very harassed and tormented, because at the time when this happened I wasn't working any more, and when we buried my father I discovered that even my son had died.  That is all I can say.