BONGANI FINCA
Thank you Mr Mgikelana.  We have given you a lot of time and we wanted to stop you but we couldn't because you were giving us an overall context of what was happening at that time here.   Above all, I think that it's the first time that we've received a submission, a substantial submission from the perspective of the Trade Unions concerning what happened in this region. We thank you for coming here to give us this perspective.  We know that there are many leaders who were leaders from 1990 up until this period who were very militant, the leaders who appeared from 1990 but you've spoken about what happened in 1983 and even before that.  That was a very dark period where leadership demanded a price and we know that you are one of those people in this region, those who sacrificed their lives at a time when it was expensive to do that to your life and to your family.
 We thank you for the background you presented to us and we thank you for giving us a picture regarding the link between the big businesses and the Government as well as the past regime.  You answered a question which was in my mind and that is, would there be a full reconciliation if those who were perpetrators at the time, came and clarified this matter to us so that we can accept what was happening and forgive them.  You have made a very clear call at the big business to-day but if we are going to build on a solid foundation for the future, the past history needs to be exposed, acknowledged and forgiven.  
 Thank you for the advice you have given us regarding what should be done and we will forward your advice to the President of this country so that he can be the one to try or to answer what you have put forward.  You spoke to us a leader and as an analyst as well as a patriot.  We thank you.  Unfortunately, we have given Mr Ngikelana a lot of time so we will have a short break of fifteen minutes and we'll come back here at a quarter to twelve.  Thank you.