ADV SANDI
I'm sorry, Mr Lamey I think we would have to be careful how we go about putting this to the witness.  As I understand him he is not saying the two applicants, that is your clients, have been told what to say in their applications but he says his experience tells him that they most probably tell a story that would sort of coincide with the story of those people whom he has said they are is lapdogs.
	Isn't that what you're saying Mr Mamasela?