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In fact it is a matter of public record that Jacques Buchner not only - well, whether or not he ordered it or organised it, he certainly participated in it.  He not only participated in that rate, but he also participated in the first Maseru raid, where 41 people were killed.  Have you ever had any word from the South African Defence Force about this raid?  Have they ever approached you as  a family ... (intervention)  