TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  I have got six children.  The first one it's a boy.  He is Zakiwu.  He is 30 years old.  The second one is Ayanda.  He is 28 years old.  And then two girls - they are twins.  They are 27 years old.  And then there's a boy, Simphiwe, who is 25 years old, and then there is Zanele, the last-born.  He is 13 years old.  The first boy, he was studying at Rhodes.  He was doing B Com in 1987.  The second one, he was here at the University at Westville, doing BA.  The girls, one of them was doing B Journalism at Rhodes and the other one doing B Sc Computer Science at Rhodes, and Simphiwe, he was at Cassim (?) College.  He was doing standard 9.  Zanele, he was not yet at school at that stage, when his mother died.  He was still at pre-school.  He was 5 years old.  We were a very close family.  Even the community knew that.  Even if there were occasions, we used to go together as a family.  Pearl - we've got businesses at Clermont.  My wife, Pearl, was in charge of the businesses.  I was an advocate here in Natal at that time.