FREDERIK JOHANNES PIENAAR
Before that, Botha, Cpt van Dyk, Mr Ras and I think Mr Tait were told to go to the rendezvous point at the border to surmise whether they could possibly intercept the persons who would bring the MK members to the border for infiltration.  They departed for Swaziland and later that evening the kombi returned from the border.
	Manzini drove past us and I would not be able to say how far it was, it was a few metres past the place where he was supposed to stop.  I would also like to mention to the Committee that a plastic bag was attached to a branch where he had to stop.  He drove past, Col de Kock started running to the kombi and the rest of us followed.  Manzini did jump out of the kombi and immediately started running away, around the front of the kombi.
	A male person climbed out of the left front door of the kombi with an AK in his hand.  And I am certain that this person fired a shot.  Later an AK shell was picked up there.  Col de Kock immediately started firing at this person and the other members also opened fire on this person and the other persons in the kombi.  After a while we ceased fire and the kombi was searched.