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personally knew Brian Ngqulunga.  He had already been transferred to Unit C2 from Vlakplaas before I 
started at Vlakplaas.
	A kombi was hired from Avis and balaclavas and gloves were issued to us.  Radebe was waiting 
on a gravel road near Vlakplaas in a red Golf and that was the road which headed to Vlakplaas, and we 
would pass Vlakplaas, reach a T-junction and turn right.  This gravel road then led back to Attridgeville 
where you met up with Church Street and then proceeded into town.
	We approached the Golf from behind in this kombi, Colonel Baker was driving, Botha and I were 
sitting in the middle and Bellingham was sitting in front on the left.
We put on the balaclavas and ran to the car, we went to where Ngqulunga was sitting on the left of the 
vehicle,
dragged him out of the vehicle.  We wrestled with him a bit and in the wrestling I remember very well that 
he screamed and said, no comrades, no comrades, I am one of you, I am one of you.
	At that stage and because we were disguised he must have thought that we were ANC members.  
That is the conclusion which I reached.  And the conclusion was that he was still an ANC supporter 
although he was an ascari with us.
	We brought him under control by manhandling him and in the process we assaulted him.  In the 
vehicle, when we put him in the kombi we closed his mouth, we tied up his hands and feet and we went - 
we drove in the direction of Brits.
The exact place is not as shown in the footage, it is not in Soshanguve.  If you drive from Brits in the 
Lehabele area and head towards Bophutatswana, that - somewhere along that 
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