PHILLIP MFULATWELWA MTSWENI
The reason I took part in this incident, I will first start by relating what happened for me to participate.  First I accompanied them when they went to see the junior chief.    The argument or the discussion was about witchcraft and we wanted to ascertain whether there was a witch involved.  We discussed and my question was "is there a person among us who can recommend a sangoma where we can go and clarity this" and no one knew and I told them that I do know someone and I mentioned that person and I asked everyone if they do agree for us to all go to Makuduza, who is the sangoma and we all agreed that we were going to see Makuduza.
	I questioned the deceased's children if they would be able to afford R10-00 so that we put petrol and they agreed.  I asked July's family if they will be able to put R10-00 as well, for petrol, so that we put it together as R20-00 for petrol to go to Makuduza's place.  They also agreed.  I requested one family member from July's family and one family member from the deceased's children and if I remember well, it was (indistinct) Mtsweni and July's brother.