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Then just finally, I'd like you to draw a distinction between political motivation, and I would say that is as a member of the ANC Youth League and understanding the policies of the ANC you do certain things because you remember, you are politically motivated by the aims and objectives of your organisation, that's one thing, as against a political objective, trying to achieve a particular political objective of your organisation.  I will just take one very quick on as an example, bringing about a democratic government, just as an easy example, as a political objective of the ANC.  Where did the activities of these applicants on the 7th of September 1991, promote or fit into the objectives of the ANC, any one of the ANC's objectives.  You understand I'm trying to distinguish between motivation and objective and what the applicants did.