MR MOSES
If I was given - if the Committee has made an order, you would remember M'Lord that I have requested permission to consult with my client and Mr Booyens then objected because my client was under oath and still under, he has already started to testify and he was under cross-examination and practice, rule of practice is that one will have to get special permission for that, and I was denied that permission.  Well, Mr Booyens objected.