ADV DE JAGER
So could you kindly then tell us - go through perhaps paragraph by paragraph and say: "Well I want the Commission to attend to the facts in this paragraph" because you're also opposing the applications of the two people in jail,  you're referring to them and they're not before us at this stage in any event.  ...[inaudible] insofar as we should pay attention to this, which paragraphs do you want to be evidence in this case.