BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
Just hold it there.  When you describe him in 
the way that you are describing him, I'm not necessarily saying 
that there is evidence or there is no evidence of wider conspiracy 
but when you begin to describe to Mr Clark that way as a witness, 
I think I would have some problem because you see I think Mr 
Clark did not make any attempt to hide the fact the he was not 
impartial, he was not to be impartial in this case.  
	He has demonstrated that and he indicated that he would 
not be coming here before us - if we wanted him, to he would 
only do at the instance of the applicants and I'm not so sure how 
helpful that kind of evidence is.  And another thing is, well, as 
I've said to you it indicates some partiality of sorts, some 
partiality.  It could indicate some partiality.
	And anther thing is, it's all very well for a witness to come 
and say "Well these proceedings are part of a circus and the like, 
it is his right to say so.   But when I have to come to a point 
where I must consider the credibility of such a witness, I have got 
to ask myself whether a witness who adopts that kind of attitude 
in giving evidence could be prompted, let alone feeling obliged in 
telling the truth and being honest.