MR MBEKELA
Thank you honourable Sir and also honourable Chairperson, we could say that it was nothing new to us all being seated here today.  The situation especially in the 1980's, particularly from 1984 onwards was one which was very unpleasant, where the people of South Africa, especially the youth at that time was fed up with being oppressed.  They just had enough of the people of South Africa having been oppressed.  I would say Mr Chairperson that the people of South Africa were determined to overthrow the government of the day, they did not want the government at that time and the residential areas of black persons, looking at people who lived around border areas, the border areas were not residential areas any more, they war more war zones because the soldieres, police and military people who had been sent on crash courses and were known as Nats here in the location were trained with the objecive of killing people that lived in the locations and they were deployed to us.
 As I have said honourable Committee Members and Commissioners, people were not happy to just sit back and fold their hands. They picked up whatever they could to defend themselves with but with the objective in mind that South Africa should be free.