ADV PRIOR
We're going to hear it, Mr Chairman.  Bongani Cele and Dumisani Sibisi, AM 3383/96 and AM 6351/97 was adjourned from Monday until today.
	Mr Chairman, may I place on record the following:  Both the applicants were released from prison on parole.  Present today is Mr Dumisani Sibisi who has via his attorney, Mr Samuel indicated that they wish to proceed with the application.  
	Mr Bongani Cele is not present.  My information that from his parole office, Mr Cele has failed to report on the various occasions that he was supposed to, as a result of which he and members of the witness protection and police went out into the Umzinto area where he resides to try and find him.  He wasn't able to be found. 
	However this morning I learnt from his co-applicant, Mr Sibisi, that he had been requested by the parole officer and also our witness protection, Mr Sadar Govender to possibly see if he could contact Mr Cele, which he did.  Mr Sibisi confirmed this morning to me that he had spoken to Mr Cele the day before yesterday, had explained to him why the matter was adjourned to today and Mr Cele indicated to him that he was not interested in proceeding with his application.  I think Mr Samuel will or I will be able to lead that evidence or ask those questions or possibly the Committee may even confirm that from Mr Sibisi once he is placed under oath.
	So in the circumstances, Mr Chairman, I would submit that it would be equitable that Mr Sibisi be heard insofar as his amnesty application is concerned.  All the victims are present, and there are five.  I have consulted with all of them and they have all indicated to me that they do not oppose the application.  
	And all have indicated quite magnanimously, Mr Chairman, that they have unconditionally forgiven Mr Sibisi.  The only person that wishes to speak to Mr Sibisi at the end of these proceedings is Mrs Mabel Mahiba or Madiba.  And that will be arranged with Mr Sibisi and his attorney.