ADV SIGODI
Sorry, Mr Mbandazayo.  Can't you say that was the case in the 70s and in the 80s, and if we look at this instance, it was in 1993 and at that time there was already, I mean a spirit of negotiation.  The perception of people speaking to the police then was somewhat different than it was in the 80s and in the 70s.  Would you not agree with me?