BENNET SIBAYA
Mr Chairperson, I'd already said that Mr John Lubbe - I didn't know that he wasn't one of Mr Segal's people because he brought a photo of the person that Mr Segal brought to me but he said to me he was a policeman from the Truth Commission.  I don't know those people, that's the information that I got from them because they wanted enough information to implicate Mr Ntsebeza.