ABRAM VAN ZYL
You know Mr Chairperson, I don't know whether the time is very important to me.  I told you that according to my opinion, it was closer to nine o'clock that the explosion had taken place.
	I have now briefly seen some of the statements that had been made, to which you have referred, of the witnesses, and even in those statements, there are differences in time.  The one says the meeting started at eight o'clock and the other one says the meeting started at quarter past eight for argument's sake.
	I know what it looks like at a crime scene, afterwards people will speak to each other and then one will say the bomb exploded at that time.  It is generally accepted that that was the time that the bomb went off.
	In my own mind, I think that it was quite later that the bomb was detonated, closer to nine o'clock than to half past eight.  That is how I recall it.