MR CLAASSEN
Madame Chair I have spoken to some of the people from Correctional Services and they indicated - I think he says he thinks that Mr Hadebe will not be brought this afternoon but tomorrow morning.  I can only suspect that they would have to leave very, very early in Johannesburg to be here at any early time.  As I have indicated to the Commission I also would just like if they would just afford me the opportunity to speak to Mr Hadebe before the session commences.  I think 10 o'clock sounds very fair.