SULLIVAN P MOLOKOANE
Okay.  No, they apparently, from what read from the newspaper, you see, we are getting a different version from time to time, but it is for you to, you know, to deduce which way, you know, you find it sensible.  I will start from the beginning when they sabotaged Secunda.  Barney, Mathew Simelane being the uncle happened to know Barney, because Mathew Simelane was raised by my mum.  So now Barney being in exile happened to know Bethal as his uncle's place.  From time to time when he would jump the border, come this side for whatever mission he would always worry my uncle.  There I want to put it clearly.  It does not mean my uncle was then a terrorist, whatever, he was merely harbouring his nephew who just pounced on him with these six guys driving those vans of theirs.  Now he would harbour them there, Mishane, but he would also caution Mishane, you are putting me into a hell of a quandary, you are putting me into a dilemma.  So he would harbour them in that way.  So hence he happened to know these guys, how many they were.  That is why now and I am coming to this thing that these guys were travelling in two cars.  I believe that they were travelling in two cars.  That is what he told me.  So where I have a problem is when the other vehicle could make it from, all the way from Bethal and then it goes straight into Swaziland with Vaku inside, being a soldier.  I do not know the all the nitty grittys of being a soldier when other soldiers are fighting, can you run away.  I do not know about that.  How he broke away I do not know, but what I cannot really, really rest until I get an explanation is how did he break away from Barney.  That is why I am saying maybe ANC can clarify that to us, but we are asking questions.
 Now, in the report that I got from Middleburg the people that, as Priscilla Jana was probing this case, there is a report where the first security man, a certain Mr Botha, says I saw this bakkie and then I overtook this bakkie and then I flagged that bakkie must stop.  Then whilst I was a couple, I was in few metres away he slowed down, this bakkie where Barney was.  Then they shot at him.  Just there Barney's vehicle just decided to turn backward.  I do not know either going back from the way it came from.  Then it fell into a ditch and these guys got out and tried to walk.  Then the police, I do not know, he rallied around for support from the, some of, a farmer there.  So then they came now in, they phone all different regiments or Alice there in the neighbourhood to come and pounce on Barney and them.  So what I am saying is it is either these guys.  They knew that Barney would be coming, because cops, this man is a dangerous man.  They were really, really looking for him.  I have a suspicion that there is foul play in my brother's death up until I get clarification.