STANLEY GQIBA
Let me start off with Abraham Mkhwanazi.  He is the one that I knew first.  He was staying at Zone 12, we recruited them into the organisation.  He was still young by then and could only qualify as a member of the so-called pioneer movements, who the members of which were under sixteen.  We had set up their own structures to which we referred as the pioneer movement, and that is where we groomed the leadership of the ANC.  Radebe I knew very late, and I got to know that he came from Small Farm.  I knew him through other members of the organisation at Zone 12.