CHAIRPERSON
May I with your indulgence Mr Molohlanye, I am getting a little confused with your evidence, Mr Cele, and this is really meant to assist you, I hope you understand that.  Let me encapsulate your evidence as I comprehend it thus far.  You have this meeting which happens at the hills where you usually held your "People's Courts", you decide to administer some lashes on the group that you had with you at that time, which did not include Dudu.  You proceed to impose a sentence and you proceed to meet out punishment on that group of people who you estimated to be approximately seven.   You then decide that Dudu must be located, you go back to the house, you search the house, you find Dudu hiding under the bed, you take her up to the hills where you again impose a sentence of 200 lashes on her and proceed to administer that sentence.   At about that time, the comrades from Amadiqwe arrive in a kombi, they then give you some kind of wisdom about the decision that you had earlier on taken, and you then agree that these persons should not only be assaulted as you had already done, but that they should be killed and not only the people who were from outside your area, but those who assisted them which would mean Amos Cele and the people who were staying at his house.  You agree with that decision, as a result of which you go to Amos Cele's house, precisely to carry out the decision that you have now taken jointly with the comrades from Amadiqwe and that is no longer to allow these people to leave, but to kill them and kill those people who had harboured them, that would be Amos Cele and his people.  This is how I have been understanding your evidence.   As it turned out, Amos Cele is not in the house and these people see you coming and they start dispersing in different directions.  You then split into various groups, the others remain behind and they burn down Amos Cele's house.  It is quite obvious to me the way I understand your evidence, that you had decided to kill these persons as advised by the comrades from Amadiqwe and that would include Mr Cele, Mr Amos Cele?  Is that not so?