ADV POTGIETER
That has in fact occurred to me when I read through your statement, and I was thinking that Ezekiel is obviously the best person to tell us what happened.  It depends on what the Chairperson's view is, but it might be a similar case to the earlier one where we might have to take the testimony of Ezekiel, but before we deal with that, will he be able, if the Chairperson were to allow that, would he be able to give us testimony today? Is he in a position to tell us today, is there anything wrong with him?