CHAIRPERSON
No, there's no doubt about differences, political differences between the two major political persuasions about whether Claremont should or should not form part of Kwa Zulu.  I don't think there's any dispute about that.  	What you have to tell us or prove to us, is whether your client was the willing participant in whatever Djamile told him or asked him to do and for which he was paid.  Is that not what actually happened?