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If all they had done was taken the person hostage, in order to get the keys and to gain control, I don't think we would be debating the issue at all.  The only reason why I think we are debating it, with respect, is because they went further than that and they killed him.  We concede that that was not necessary, and that was not the only way to get the keys, but seen in the context of what PHOKENG HEARING	AMNESTY/GAUTENG
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they were really trying to achieve, we say it wasn't disproportionate.
	We would also like to just briefly refer you to
subsection (4) of section 20, which says that
	 in complying the criteria contemplated in subsection (3), the Committee shall take into account the criteria applied in the Acts repealed by section 48.
Now we know that you have been given a document by Mr Kleynhans of the Department of Justice that enlightens you in some respects about the way in which these Acts were repealed.  We have prepared a document which we would - we are not submitting as evidence.  We are merely submitting it to you as information regarding how those Acts were applied in the past.  We have taken the liberty of doing that, because from 1990 up until last year, I was involved in that process and on the off-chance that the document may be of some assistance to you, we are handing it up.
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