MS MBETHE
Yes.  Then George and Lindi.  George and Lindi, I mean Lindi was a civil servant in Botswana. You know she travelled all over the world on behalf of the Botswana Government.  George was full-time a business man.  He was up and down with these busses and they were at our house often.  Sometimes in fact they would complain that they are not told when there are alerts and yet know this because they will just come here one of these days and kill everybody.  You know, they sort of felt sometimes that they were not always told when there were alerts.
      George and Lindi, in fact they were due to go to Harare the day before, I don't know why they didn't go, so again that would be a couple I would say I would be surprised if anyone were to try ...