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to be placed in possession this evening of the excerpts of 
Ngqulunga's evidence before the Harms Commission, which we 
deem important for this Committee.  Now I have in my 
possession bundles of the evidence in the De Kock trial, 
especially, well, actually the evidence of Warrant Officer 
Nortje.  I intend to hand that in to the Committee, but what 
I want to do, Mr Chairman, and it is going to be very short, 
is refer you to one or two pages in the evidence and ask 
Capt Mentz's commentary on that, if you will allow me to.