MR VISSER
Mr Roodt fitted in, from the AWB side, he was, as I said earlier on, he was the commandant of certain of the cells in the West Rand.   Why the cell structure, is that at that stage the Security Police used to frequently infiltrate into the activities of the AWB, and that was the reason, I can remember back on a meeting with, that we had in Ventersdorp with Mr Eugene Terreblanche, that he advised us that we start a cell structure to prevent any infiltration from the Security Police.