JACOBUS PETRUS PAULUS ERASMUS
Mr Chair I normally met Mr Ngo outside Bloemfontein at Kwaggafontein and one afternoon he told me that on the next day I had to meet him in Rhino Kriel Street.  What was strange to me was the fact that he said he just had something to do there and then he could meet me there.  Since that point in time I met him there regularly in Rhino Kriel Street, I always stopped some distance away from the house and one evening to my surprise Mr Venter came out with him to me and he introduced Mr Venter to me.  From that point onwards, many times through Mr Venter I quickly arranged emergency appointments with Mr Ngo.