CHRISTOFFEL PIERRE VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
That's not entirely correct, the idea surrounding Katzen was broadly known in the Eastern Cape and was discussed in the Eastern Cape.  It was definitely known to the Xhosa leaders that I referred to earlier, the basic idea of a Xhosa unity, unity as a nation. So it wasn't my original idea.  Even white leaders also made statements to this effect.  Most probably these statements were made in a slightly negative sense towards the Ciskei, which was not regarded as having the same viability as the Transkei.  And also, from my own personal point of view it was regarded as two countries but one nation, just divided by a thin strip in the middle and neither of those two were viable as separate entities.  It was only if they were joined together and upon inclusion of the portion in the middle, that they could perhaps survive as a unified Xhosa nation.  That was the basic idea.