MR HUGO
Mr Chairman, I'm almost - I think I'm done, there's only problem and that is, I think I've told you in chambers that I'm also acting for Mr Radebe.  Mr Radebe's downstairs involved in the other hearing.  I would suggest that I would beg your indulgence to consult with him during the lunch hour and just get formal instructions as to his version, in that there might be some issues that I have to put to Mr Nofomela.  But as far as Mr de Kock's situation is concerned, I think this is the cross-examination.