GIDEON JOHANNES NIEUWOUDT
Mr Chairperson, may I just explain my actions?  After I had become involved in the planning and had activated the necessary sources to monitor them, all physical and non-physical sources were activated and earlier during the day he had visited Livingstone hospital, after that he went to a certain address - Mrs Mtanga in Kwazakele, if I remember correctly - I don't have independent recollection of this fact and then they were to have gone to the Holiday Inn.  That is the way the scenario progressed, if I remember correctly now.