CHAIRPERSON
May I in defence to Mr Hadebe say that that's a very unfair question to put to him.  I think as things stand the application form, and in particular Mr Sithomo's response to paragraph 9.4 that you are eluding to, 9(a)4, the particulars therein are very scanty.  I cannot comprehend what Mr Sithomo is saying.  It would unfair to put issues which are not clear for Mr Hadebe to comment upon.  I think you can recall Mr Hadebe to comment thereon once you have obtained proper evidence  in respect of that point in particular from Mr Sithomo.