MS PATEL
No, Honourable Chairperson, in fact that was the one bone of contention in that matter, in that the name of the informer, nobody would give to us.  There was no indication that the person who survived, was in fact the informer.  In fact, if one looked at the testimony of Cronje regarding that specific person, I do recall saying that it wasn't Vlakplaas' modus operandi to kill women and that is in fact why she was left behind, not that there was any allegation of her being the informer.