HENDRIK JOHANNES PETRUS BOTHA
Chairperson, if I recall correctly, over a period of two months he was involved with us and his involvement came about just before the departure of Marthinus Ras to Pretoria, that is when he became specifically involved with the person with his leg in plaster and from there he remained involved continually.  But it was not only the Nthombi Khubeka intelligence operation, there were other operations as well and I have read Simon's statement and it is clear from his statement that he confuses, he is confused with regard to the facts of other incidents.