BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
No I don't think that is the point at this stage.  Let's take the matter in instalments.  Whether of not the applicant is entitled to amnesty in respect to the stabbing of the child, is an aspect which is going to be decided together with all other aspects.  In other words, it is going to be decided together when we decide on the other related offences. What we are concerned now at this stage is your request for the adjournment of the matter to go and call that person and personally I think that we should rule against you and say that we are not adjourning the matter solely for the purpose of going to call a witness who is coming to repeat something which the applicant has said, which something is not being opposed by anybody and I don't think we need to adjourn the matter so that you should come and address us on that point.
	As far as addressing us on the question of whether or not the applicant is entitled to amnesty in respect of an offence which he denies, that will be dealt with together with the other offences as well.  He doesn't enjoy any special treatment at this stage. At this stage we are just concerned with whether or not you should postpone the matter so that you can go and call a witness who is coming what the applicant has said, which thing is not being contradicted by anybody.