MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA
Okay.  We've heard that from other witnesses that there was a court, a big shack court, we heard that from yesterday from Ruth Dibisela and we also heard from Mr Veneni.  And there was also Mrs Nsokoso who was here who agreed with that and we also heard about one of the policemen who was here yesterday, he was a detective, saying that there was a court.
 Do you know anything about this?