MR LEWIN
Elias and Elda we would like to thank you very much for coming to the hearing today, for telling us this story.  We will try and follow it up. As I think we have said in so many cases before the real pain, apart from the real pain of someone dying is the pain of not knowing why they died or how they died or who was responsible and that is something that we as a Commission are trying to do.  As I have said, if there is anything more that you remember please don't hesitate to come forward and let us know because we will investigate this and we will try and come back to you.  We understand your pain and we are very grateful to you for sharing your pain with all of us here.  We feel part of the community, we feel that it is very important, as you have shown, very important to come forward and to tell these stories, however painful they are.  So thank you very much for coming, both of you.  Thank you.