MR MALAN
May I just take you back to why were the comrades told that the group that were originally sjamboked, had not yet left?  Why did you tell them that they had not yet left, how did you know that?
MR R.B. CELE: From the spot where we were standing, it is possible to see a person leaving the area, you are able to see the bus stop, so you would have been able to see a person boarding a bus.