SIPHO JAPTHA MADUNA
I said, I asked Mr Mkolise - First I told him that I was sent to kill him, because he's a member of Inkatha.  But then he said to me he was Inkatha but now he wanted to leave Inkatha.  And then I trap him.  I said to him, we have his father with us, and I said to him, now if I can give him the gun which I had in my possession to go and shoot his father, will he do so, and then he answered back and said, no, he wouldn't.