ELIZABETH NOTHEMBILE HASHE
Yes.  I went there to SANLAM and I was being taken off by Sookie, the owner of the car.  When we reached SANLAM, I took this piece of paper to the white man who was on safari, I gave him the note to find out who it was that I was referred to.  He took it and took me into one of the offices.  The room was full of policemen wearing police safaris.  All of them.  I was scared.  I was made to sit down, this white man with a very big face with a moustache,he was called Strijdom from the murder and robbery squad.  He said to me "Mrs Hashe, do you know that your
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husband was found at Veeplaas, burned.  We could only identify him from his lower parts, from the waist downwards.
 I said, nothing of that nature, there is nothing of that kind.  He said to me, "What do you expect me to say?"  I said to him, "He is in your cells."  He argued with me, he said, "I'm telling you the truth, they were burned, he's note here." He said, "This happened to many people". I said, "I am not going to really wait for this, I am losing patience".  He said," Look at me, I'm not Hashe". You know I didn't mind anything about him, I didn't care.  He said to me, "Do you know that as you are here in person, there is nothing that I can do with you."  I said to him, "I'm asking you one thing", you know we are not just talking, we are really arguing, I asked him one thing, "Can you please take me to the mortuary where you say my husband is, because you mentioned that he was at the mortuary?" I told him I don't want to go alone, I want to go with him because he knows that he is dead.  He pushed me and he said, "This one I cannot stand!"  
 I was taken by Vera from the Liquor Squad to this room to take my finger prints, on my way out, some of the police stepped in front of me in the long passage. I only saw him because he pointed me out to the other policeman.  This room that I was taken to was full of whites, you know, these heavily built whites.  They were wearing suits, beautiful. After having been called by Mr Gaba, I was made to sit down.  They said to me, "Do you know English?" I said "No, I cannot speak English properly but I understand.  I was made to sit down and then they called someone to interpret, because they were really prepared to talk.