MR CLAASSEN
Thank you Mr Chairperson, pardon me, I'll leave it at that.  Mr Dastile, then, quickly again on, you said that you went to Mr Sithole's house, and you met Sithole, Zwane, Mpongosi plus two boys, that came towards you.  And your brother then spoke to him and said that this problem had to be resolved, there was going to be, he made mention of the general state of violence that occurred in the country at that stage, and he said that, "...we should stop it because if this happens it will never stop."  Is that correct?