MR WILLS
Yes, thank you.  Mr Mkhize, just finally to clarify one aspect of your evidence before you conclude.  We've heard the evidence of Mr Luthuli who indicated that when you were given orders by persons in authority over you, you had to obey those orders unquestionably and you conducted or you executed those orders without questioning them.  Now does the same apply - as I understand your position, you also were in a position of authority in that you were the local commander of what I think the media has called the Esikhawini Hit Squad.  Now you were in charge of certain people, for example Mr Mbambo, certain instances Mr Zwele Dlamini, Mr Fangwane and others.  Does the same apply - if you were to give those persons an order, were they obliged to follow it in the same way as you were obliged to follow orders that you received from your superiors?