ERNEST PHUMUZI SIGASA
Well the information, depending of course on how long they take, but they would come in in the morning and so on and before lunch, lunch I would imagine that what I'm talking about I'm referring to 1 o'clock, before lunch they would in fact go out.  Sometimes they would knock earlier than that, sometimes they would come in at around about 11, 12, 1 and so on.