MR DREYER
I accept that, let's return to what I've said, you said you heard specific things, all that I'd like to know is, the day when you were at the roadhouse, at the road cafe, before you reached the roadblock and the two shotguns were shown to you and you said you do not know how to work it, in that evening did you know, with your own knowledge, that those guns come from Japie Oelofse?