MR VISSER
So what is the result of the instructions, Mr Chairman?  Nobody has given you any feedback on whatever the result is, but the argument is incorrect Mr Chairman.
	If you go on with the pre-trial minute, to where Mr Motsamai's application is discussed, it is quite clear Mr Chairman, and that is the reason why this was discussed, in paragraph 6.2 and 6.3, that Motsamai is applying for two incidents.	That was why we raised the issue of Mr Ngo whether it is one or two incidents at the pre-trial minute.