CHAIRPERSON
I think what Mr Samuel is putting to you is that the intention was for MK cadres to be arrested, particularly the leader of a unit, and the askaris were sent in for that purpose, that is why they had arranged a rendezvous point at Battery Beach, etc, hoping to catch at least the leader of the Unit and in stead of that, your member or members, bring in the contact person which we all know, resulted in the termination of the particular operation?   What Mr Samuel wants to know is, did Botha tell you about that or talk to you about that happening, that event happening which led to the termination of the operation?