ANDRIES STEPHANUS KRIEL
Yes, Chairperson, we did discuss it.  Our plan of action was that we would concentrate on transport, trains and these places, that we would not go out, we felt that is was not within our area to go and kill people and shoot people.  We agreed to that, but I do not want to sit here today as the Angel of the Light and make as if we were angels.  People could have been killed, that is indeed so.