CHAIRPERSON
Is there, what are your views on, just going through some of the evidence, on the applicant's version he says that he shot at the blue Mercedes and it came to a halt and then he immediately went to it from where you are sitting to the green door, 15 paces.
	He asked a couple of questions and then shot the people.  On his version, the timespan would have been no more than three minutes or two minutes, yet it is quite clear from the affidavit of De Koker and also the evidence of Mr de Ionne that the victims were lying besides or next to the vehicle for at least 15 minutes.  	How do you explain that difference in the evidence?  What happened if the applicant himself said well, he is not disputing that it might have been 15 minutes, but on his version, it wasn't.  What did he do in those 15 minutes with regard to, what went through his mind, what happened in those 15 minutes, with the applicant?