JUDGE MGOEPE
Please don't, like we asked you yesterday,please don't do that because you are not really helping his case. When we decide whether or not to give this amnesty, we are notgoing to count how many times you clapped hands for him.  Please,give him the chance to explain his case properly so that he canget the chance to apply for his amnesty properly.  We are notgoing to be influenced by whether or not you clapped hands.  Youare just really spoiling his case, please.
 Now Mr Thulu, I am going to take you step by step and you mustlisten very carefully and answer the question as it comes.  Ifyou don't understand it you must tell me.  Was there any occasionduring which these - or first let me say.  Who are these peoplethat the Mayor said or the councillor said he would send to forcepeople to come and pay rent?  Is it the 3 million gang?