ADV DE JAGER
Mr Pretorius, you wanted to arrest these people.  They were shooting at you.  If I have it correctly, Mr Erwee shot 30 shots, Mr Kruger about 15, Mr Swarts about 15, you, 20 and with the pistol 9 or so shots.
	Why couldn't it have happened that you for instance shot 10 shots and then said to the people, hands up and surrender?