MR PRINSLOO
Mr Chairman, with respect, in as far as this statement is concerned, we have asked on numerous occasions for the tapes to be made available.  As is clearly, from reading this document, not in the words of the first person making a statement and up till now nobody produced those tapes, nobody has come forward to explain where they are and, secondly, Mr Chairman, this is not the original document.  We asked for the original document and so far it has not been produced.