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Mr Chairman, at that time I did not know what these people were planning. I was told to go to Ventersdorp and from there I would have gone up to the "wildplaas" or wherever
they were because I didn't know. But at that stage when these two people approached me and said I must drive shotgun for them I did not know what it was for.  Yes, maybe if we had to get to Welkom and they had to assassinate somebody or plant a bomb there yes, I would have been involved but I didn't know what it was and they didn't tell me, I walked blindly into something.  
	At the stage where we stopped at Klerksdorp and we loaded the pipe bombs, it came to, well I realised bang, here is it now.  They spoke about war and: "Get the things and we going into it", and here is it now back to reality here is the stuff here in front of me.  I accepted it, I didn't ask questions.