MR VAN VUUREN
Let me explain this.  Mr Hechter, Mr Mamaselaand myself worked in one corner of the offices.  I wouldn't beable to say how many, but there were about 200 staff persons onthis branch.  All of these were handlers of informants, some had10 informants, others had two informants.  Every morning Mr Hechterand myself would sit in a meeting with Colonel Loots, our CommandingOfficer.  The informant reports with regard to the most importantinformation out of the reports would have been given to ColonelLoots.  He would have written this down in a diary for the conferenceimmediately after that.  It was never my informant that gave thisinformation that Maake might be a double agent.  Nor can I rememberwhose informant it was.  In view of the clandestine nature ofthe operation we didn't ask whose informant gave the information. We were concerned about leaks out of the Security Police.