MR VISSER
There is a reference, however, somewhere in the papers, I'm not sure where I saw it, that Tekere was in fact murdered on the 7th of August 1988, but we've not been able to verify that date, Chairperson, but it would appear that those were the three incidents which revolved basically around the same situation and the same set of facts and they were all buried on the farm and my information is that those graves were all pointed out by some of the applicants and exhumations took place.  I see Commissioner Lax agrees with me.
	Yes, perhaps the family, if, well how would they know?  If the family does know a better date perhaps, they could clear the question.