MR SAMUEL
Mr Chairman, if I may come in at this point.  This document was given to us at a very late stage and my instruction was to object to the document being handed in, and on that basis I have not consulted with my client properly.  I think, in order to take this matter forward, because it seems it's going to go around in circles, if I may have just five minutes to advise my client on this document ...(indistinct)