ADV DE JAGER
Mr Memani, in all fairness, I think it is common cause that they discussed it and that the witness took him for an interview to COMPOL.  So he must have known that least this one is a member of the security police.  There could be an argument about the other one.  But let's start off, it was common cause, your client stated it, he stated it, so we all know that they knew each other and that they knew - that the applicant knew that the witness was a member of the security force.