NDODA MGENGO
What I'm trying to convey to you is that there was some co-operation between APLA and PASA, a high level type of co-operation in such a way that PASO was a banker of APLA, that's how we were able to get members.  Some of them are playing a very important role in the present political situation.  For instance Major General Xundu was member of PASO.  I was also a member of PASO.  There wasn't much I could talk to Xolani with regard to the operation besides the message that we should co-operate or they should co-operate and work together with the person that I introduced to them.