MR DREYER
I take note of your answer, let me take you away from this.  I am not going to try to catch you with words.
	Let me ask you the following.  You say there was a specific order that you received at some point from Gen Oelofse and eventually we will come back to this.  What I want to clear up with you now, you stand here in front of this Commission with an application for amnesty, when you were exposed to criminal procedures, the death sentence was still part of the criminal procedure in South Africa and you looked the death sentence in the eye and you were sentenced to death, is that correct?