CHAIRPERSON
We thank you, Mr Botha.  We are not in a Court of Law now, we are at a Truth and Reconciliation Commission hearing and all these submissions and statements which we receive, we will investigate, because we have to submit a report to the President which reflects the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  So, all the statements which we receive here will be included in the report to be submitted to the President, including this one.  We will allow a few questions from the panel which we would like you to answer if you can.  Ntsiki Sandi.