DEPOUTCH ELESE
Okay, to answer that I want to pose also a question, because he said it was not highly politicised.  By whom, because at that time, there were no politics where we were saying people have to join this particular organisation, each and every organisation was free because at that time, we had been having bilateral meetings with the PAC, how to operate at the area, because at that time Jeffery Nongwe, in 1990 and 1991, there was a burning of houses of Unathi Section where the incident occurred.
	When we have been having talks to have peace, we have been doing those talks in conjunction with the PAC leadership in the area, we even called the Regional structure of the PAC, they were present, also the ANC.
	At that time it was the Chairperson of the PAC, it was Mr Lagunya.  There was no confrontation at that time between the ANC and the PAC, there were good relationships at that time between both organisations.