MR VISSER
If I may make a short reply.  Mr Chairman, you and your Honourable Members of this Committee are here to seek the truth, we know that.  Mr White Mohapi has implicated various people and today again Bester had been implicated by Mr White Mohapi.  His credibility must be of some concern to you.  He has told you a version here, which my learned friend has now conceded, is a materially different story from what appears from the docket.  That is what my learned friend has conceded to you now.  We believe that you should have a look at this docket.  Let us give you the copies, you can read through it.  I just thought this morning, with respect Mr Chairman, that Mr White Mohapi should be given the opportunity to put his version or give any explanation which he can but I'm quite willing and happy to leave it in your hands Mr Chairman, but at this stage we have been asked to trace dockets and papers and pocket books.  We've traced the docket Mr Chairman and I wish now to hand in the docket to you together with copies made of the docket for you.