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of Foreign Affairs, they were permanent members and occasionally the Minister of Constitutional 
Development, I don't know if he became a permanent member but he and the Minister of Finance 
eventually were there and other members according to who the State President deemed necessary and also 
the heads of the different departments. 
	The State Security Council in turn had a Secretariat.  This Secretariat had various committees and 
I think the committees whose dealings would be of interest to you and in whose dealings I would go into at 
length would be the Strategic Committee which dealt with various incidents with regard to certain matters.  
Then the Security Council had another committee, a Management Committee at divisional level where the 
heads of the departments and heads of the Defence Force served. I would say the Divisional Heads and 
other persons and it was further divided into branches with management centres where other members 
served at a lower level. 
	The State Security Council itself determined policy as far as defence was concerned, took 
decisions which were of National interest, which by way of the ministers involved and various departments 
would be executed via those departments. The Executive - the system was under a Minister who also 
reported directly to the Council from time to time and they served in a purely coordinational function.  
There were also various departments who contributed to the security situation and in that way brought them 
together and planned these things together and also would coordinate actions which were to take place.  
But all instructions were done via the departments in their own systems. As far as the joint management 
committee there was no authority to issue 
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