MR VISSER
Chairperson, I wouldn't even object to that, but the point is, my learned friend is obviously doesn't understand what the basis of my cross-examination is, I'm not testing his memory as to whether he remembers a de Jongh, or whatever, I'm asking him basically, whether he would have told anyone else what he told this Committee.  But if my learned friend feels that he'll feel more comfortable if he consulted with the witness, I want to be fair to the witness, as fair as we can, I would have no objection.