JUDGE MGOEPE
While we are taking an adjournment Mr Mthembu it may be that you should consult with him and then decide whether you want to call him as a witness.  Though of course if you don't call him as a witness, we may, on our own initiative still decide to call him.  But it is important for you to decide whether you call him as a witness because it has got certain implications as you know.  If you call him, which I think you would do, if you call him without consulting with him, you call him as a witness, you must know that you are not going to be allowed to cross-examine him.  So you must consult with him bearing that in mind and then decide whether you want to call him as your witness.