JACQUES HECHTER
we would have withdrawn.  If they were to have been there, we would have shot them all.  If Mr Tsele was 
not eliminated that evening, he would probably at a later stage, we are not trying to reason away the fact 
that he would have been eliminated, even if it was at a later stage, but what remains a fact is that that 
evening, he would probably not have been eliminated if the terrorists were not there.  He was eliminated 
by, let's call it an oversight on the part of Joe Mamasela.  Perhaps he misunderstood the Brigadier, perhaps 
he thought that it was easier to shoot him.  We cannot try and make you understand how he saw it, but what 
we know is when the Brigadier stopped us and said go and see what is happening there and come and 
report back.
	Then further decisions would have been taken as to what to do.