N JACK MENERA
I am rightfully answering your question and I repeat at that time, or at the time before the judge was lies, the truth is what I told you here before the Commission. Let me give you a reason Mr Wilson, the reason why we didn't tell the truth in the court of law.  As the ANC we didn't want to spend our days in jail.  I there was in evidence specifically connected to me, it would be difficult to say no, it was myself and so and so, then we would go to jail in large numbers.  As the ANC you commit an act and only one is arrested.  That one person will have to stand on his own.  Now Patrick was explaining that the three of us stabbed his mother. Allow me to tell you that Patrick Phelane didn't see anything. If he had seen something on that day he would have told the judge that Jack Mutlatsi and Cheetah stabbed my mother.  I had to stand on my own and not involve the others because by not doing so the three of were going to jail because he claimed that I am Jack and I did those and I said well let me accept the accusation so that the other two can go out and carry forward the struggle of the people.  I shielded in short Malusani and Mayani.