MR CURRIN
Mr Chairman if you refer to page 3683, Mr Dorfling himself clarified the issue, line - Mr Dorfling about the third line from the top, where there was this confusion and there he says:  "My Lord, I'm not going to persist with the point.  The record actually reflects that ..." and then it was English:  "I was concerned about my knees, not leadership", and they spelt there k-n-e-e-s whereas he was saying niece when he spoke in English and Mr Dorfling, it seems to me, got this clarification himself but he obviously didn't understand the clarification.