MR WAGENER
Mr Chairman, I am in the very difficult position, I saw Mr Du Plessis last Friday and he in fact told me why he withdrew ... (tape ends) ...  as these discussions go, I am not really prepared to tell this hearing now, what he told me.  It may cause prejudice to the proceedings as such.
	Therefore, may I suggest Mr Chairman, that I see it is quarter to one, that we perhaps take the lunch adjournment now, that you or Mr Chaskalson or whoever, phone Mr Du Plessis, I think I've got his cell number available, they should adjourn in Pretoria at one o'clock at the hearing he is involved with, there, and that he be asked why he withdrew, and I think his response should assist you to come to the correct decision, whether you should grant this present request by the applicant or not.