MR KINCAID
No, Mr Chairman, I acknowledge the difficulty in establishing a political objective to a crime which nothing more than common law robbery and that is the difficulty I have with the Clacker's incident but the applicant's case is that they went along but they weren't alone, they weren't the - the group didn't just comprise them, the group was always larger and people did go over and above the terms of their mandate and those who took household articles certainly were doing just that.  The applicant's case is that they themselves didn't do that.  Now that will be a question of credibility whether you believe him or not but what corroborates his evidence in my respectful submission is the fact that he was arrested shortly after this event on his return home after the commission of Mrs Marulia's crime and nothing was recovered in his possession.