MR PATEL
My problem is this, I haven't consulted with this particular person, I'm not exactly sure what he's going to say but I do understand that he's Mr Israel Sugar Shlongwane, that he was the commander at the time of the attack.  My problem is that I don't know whether the Committee will look at his evidence to any extent when he gives evidence at a further hearing in so far as it - which I understand is going to take place in September of this year.  If that is the case and I don't have to take it any further because I can then argue that once you look at his evidence.  If that is not the case then I want to reserve my right.  I will speak to him during one of the intervals and then maybe at a later stage ask the Committee if I can call him.  He is present at this hearing.