GIDEON JOHANNES NIEUWOUDT
At a later stage after that he was arrested - before I turn to the Mr Chairperson, I want to mention that when they returned, there'd been busses which had gone from Port Elizabeth to attend the funeral.  As I recollect there was a policeman I think from Port Elizabeth, who was on the bus and if I remember correctly it was Sergeant Jalobe.  He was shot near to Jansenville while the bus had stopped for a moment to offload some people.  The information at that stage was that the deceased Mthimkhulu was responsible for the shooting.