FERDINAND BARNARD
I made my report to him and I said:  "Listen, you've got to do some damage control here.  You've said that you've been able to squash things."  He congratulated me and he asked me to tell him briefly what had happened.  He wanted to know what I did with the vehicle and the firearm.  I told him that I had destroyed the items.  I didn't tell him what vehicle I had used, I didn't tell him what exactly I had done with the firearm.  He wasn't really interested in any further details.  He then went to the boot of his car where he removed a brown A4 envelope and handed it over to me.  He said it was a production bonus and also that Joe was very happy.  I drove away from there with Mr Botha.  We stopped at a certain point.  I opened the envelope and inside there was R15 000 in cash.  I gave R5 000 to Calla Botha, R5 000 of that money.