MARY BURTON
Thank you, Chairperson we have heard this afternoon from Sidney Yabo, from Jan Molowitz and from Thabo Metsing, and we were expecting to hear from the brother in law of Jerry Ndishi.  And we are now going to hear from Sipiwo Stuurman.
 They were all victimised in similar ways, in a similar period and we earlier today thought - in memory of Jerry Ndishi who at the age of  13 was shot dead on the 1st of January 1988.  I am going to ask advocate Potgieter to help Mr Stuurman in telling us his story.