MR VISSER
Indeed Mr Chairman, we are ready to proceed with the evidence in the application of Mr Gerrit Nicholas Erasmus.  Mr Chairman, there's a few matters - house-holding matters, before I ask him to give his evidence.
	Firstly, his application you will find or an extract thereof, at page 24.  If I may say so Mr Chairman, what was very sensibly done is that it has been shortened, extracts have been made from the original application of Mr Erasmus to conform with the matter in hand namely, Messrs Madaka and Mthimkhulu.  	Unfortunately, if you turn to page 28, paragraph 10(a), you will see that there is a reference to paragraph 10(a) at page 5 of the application, now that has unfortunately been omitted from the papers before you and of course that is very relevant.  We have made copies for your benefit Mr Chairman, which we beg leave to hand up to you and what we've done is we have marked - it's four pages only, and what we have done is we have marked them 28(a) to (d).  They are already numbered - the pages.  
	If you would perhaps be so kind Mr Chairman, as to just include that in your bundle which is the bundle with the legend amnesty applications of - and the four applicants are mentioned.  There are two bundles - I don't know whether you wish to refer to this bundle as bundle A perhaps for identification purposes, it would make it easier.