MR VISSER
Well, Chairperson, with respect, it makes perfect sense.  He says that he fired to stop the vehicle and he says then there was firing and he explained to you that he thought that the firing came from the car, but the kombi was directly on the other side of the Cressida from where he was, so it's perfectly acceptable that he could have thought that there was firing from the vehicle, from the Cressida, on him.  Yes, Chairperson, I don't submit that at all, that he can't be believed.  In fact the submission is that due to the confluence of circumstances, that's exactly what he thought and that's exactly what he would have thought.  The kombi is on that side of the Cressida, the Cressida is in the middle, he's on the left-hand side as he explained to you, firing comes from that direction, what is the logical inference he draws?  The logical inference he draws is it's coming from the Cressida.  Of course he was wrong and Wasserman was wrong.