MR SIBAYA
No because Mr Lubbe was looking for me even at work.  I asked what it was about.  He said I must get into the car it's very important.  I got into the car.  He told me the matter.  I told him that this had happened a long time ago. I gave him all the knowledge that I had.  Even at home nobody knew about this.  They were shocked when they heard it.  They were shocked - a member of my family said that they saw it in the papers this week.