MR LAX
The problem here, Mr Botha, is this.  Is that initially your answer to Mr Gordhan was emphatic, now your answer is not emphatic, now your answer is that yes, the totality of information - initially your answer was emphatic.  From that house you got very definite information.  Now it's not emphatic any longer.  That's my difficulty because I heard your previous evidence and your previous evidence was in line with what you're saying now, not with the fact that it was emphatic information, so that's the difference.