XOLISA MKONWANA
It was not easy to deal with those people.  What we should understand is that these people, especially the leadership, there were a conservative element who had nothing to do with the youth who understood politics not within the Ciskei context but from a national point of view so they did not regard us very seriously and we were even told that if we wanted freedom, let us get out of the borders of Ciskei and go to South Africa, go to Queenstown, go to ...(indistinct) so that we can be able to raise these issues with the White government and we were free in Ciskei and if there was no way by which they were going to listen to us and the only party that was going to act in Ciskei was the seniors and that was the case so we could not raise any issues with them because they couldn't listen to us.