MR VAN DEN BERG
Yes.  Now whilst the evidence is not before you, Tjitja, the third surviving member of the gang is also serving a period of imprisonment, a life sentence and he also has a previous conviction for armed robbery so I want to suggest that if one has reference to the manner in which these acts were carried out, if one has reference to the background of the - certainly of the first applicant, then these are acts of criminality.
	 If one has a look at what happened at the Jacobs' home, it would appear that Jacobs was shot only when he called out and when he asked for his wife to assist him by procuring a firearm.  It seems that that was when he was shot.  It goes further that, in that after Jacobs has been shot, he is then assaulted by the first applicants.  When Jacobs requests medical assistance, he is assaulted.