CHAIRPERSON
We thank you very much.  I hear Sergeant Geldenhuys' name being mentioned and I think he was really prepared to be a witness, he wanted to speak the truth.   If we have been accusing them really, one out of the accused we have to tell the public as much as you have indicated, and the doctor as well.  They really spoke the truth, just the plain truth.  We thank you and we will try as much as we can to work hand-in-hand with you so that we can come and tell you the truth, where the truth really lies.