ADV TEE
Mr Chair, I am using it as the point that honest people can give truthful evidence and yet be wrong.  That is the point I am making about that example.  So what I am saying is that here I am trying to argue for a broader perspective to give the Committee an aspect that I understand that in the length of time that has transpired since the events, in the fact that there was this context of disinformation, that what seems to be lawyer-style irreconcilable versions are not necessarily completely irreconcilable.  There are aspects that overlap to the extent that this Committee could be quite satisfied in accepting Nkuna's version and yet granting amnesty to all three.
	The acceptance of the Nkunas' version does not mean that this Committee has to reject the other applicant.  The acceptance of Skosana's version does not even mean that this Committee has to reject the Nkunas, because on his version, his version is that the order came, according to what he had been told by Joe, from MK head office, Chris Hani himself and then he goes on to say in his application,  
"And we regarded Joe as trustworthy".