MR VISSER
If Mr Kopi is in the audience, would you just stand up please.  It seems he isn't yes, I am sorry for wasting your time, I thought he was here Mr Chairman.
	I have no further questions.  I am sorry Mr Chairman, my Attorney thinks I should ask this.  Yes, of course Mr Chairman, and it is my fault that I slipped on this.
	Mr Kopi will also tell this Committee that none of you were assaulted when he was present, he never saw any assault on you in addition to the fact that he denies that he assaulted you, he says he never saw anybody assault any of you.