MR VISSER
Thank you Mr Chairman.  No.  I will look for it Mr Chairman, but it refers to safe houses.  I thought for completeness of the evidence before you but I'll draw your attention to it tomorrow Mr Chairman, I'll look for it this afternoon.
	As far as the brother was concerned, you said he was a trained cadre and regarding Mr Madaka and Mthimkhulu's actions, were you aware of any incidents of violence?