MR VISSER
Mr Chairman that is basically the only point I wanted to raise from the reading of section 20 subsection 3.
	There is another matter which in a sense I have to return to but because I wish to ask you other questions in regard thereto and that relates to Volume 3 page 4.  That is part of your application, you remember, your written application, and page 4 deals with the introduction.  
	Now the 4th paragraph from the top, it's the paragraph just before Special Operations.  I want to read and I know this is, to some extent it's a repetition but please bear with me.  It says this:
"All the operations detailed in this submission, took place within this context and were carried out within the mandates given to me at Commissar and Commander of Special Operations and as chief of ordinance of military headquarters of uMkhonto weSizwe.  Reports of all these operations were submitted on a regular basis to the military and political command structures of the African National Congress and all of the acts for which I now apply for amnesty were carried out under the auspices and authority of the National Executive Committee and other organs of the ANC".
	Now let me make myself clear.  You have confirmed this morning, as I understood your evidence, that I was wrong in how I interpreted your evidence on Monday, that in fact what you did you did on behalf and on the authority of the ANC .  I am not going back to that.  What I want - there are two other issues that arise.  The first one is in the very next paragraph, well both of them are.  Under the heading Special Operations it says that -
"In 1979 after discussion with Joe Slovo, Oliver Tambo asked the National Executive Committee, the NEC, for a mandate to establish a special unit to carry the struggle to a higher level.  The NEC agreed and gave the present mandate which would allow for the establishment of a special operations unit with its own command structure reporting directly to him".
Now you've given that evidence.  
	The second point arises from this sentence.  
"Then the mandate also authorised that details of the operational planning would be kept secret and only the special operations command would have full knowledge or detail thereof".
	Now the two points are these.  Perhaps I should deal with the second point first.  That's the easy point.  The suggestion of secrecy I would like you just to tell the Committee what that involved.  I am sure you're not suggesting that it should have been kept secret from the National Working Committee or the NEC but perhaps you will suggest that, but how far was this secrecy supposed to go?  Was it in regard to the operatives that they shouldn't know all the details in advance, what do you mean with your reference here to secrecy?