CHAIRPERSON
Have you never ever seen people who burned houses in the struggle?  And let me again say;  the years '86, '86 specifically in this area, of the sort of nearer Eastern Transvaal, they were very, very tough years.
 I mean the security establishment went all out to stamp out resistance.  It was a all-out war generally speaking between the security police and the broader establishment and the youth.
 The youth carried the torture of liberation.  I'm not using a pun when I say the torch.  But the youth were really in the front line of everything.  And the security establishment, by all our research and evidence from other areas, were all out to stamp out the resistance.
 Now, is this impression correct, or is it totally untrue?  Are we reading History wrongly?