MR BERGER
Chairperson, the evidence that I'm referring to was that the ANC witnesses said that there was a SADF person who fired a shot, that was the - the Police said that there was an ANC person who fired a shot.  So it was disputed as to who actually fired the shot, but the fact that the shot was fired, as I understand the evidence, was not disputed.  Perhaps Mr Dorfling could comment on that.