MR NTSEBEZA
Yes.  Now that was on the 26th of May.  Now on the 9th, and this has become common cause, on the 9th of June there is evidence that suggests that on the morning of the 9th policemen were seen at meetings with Witdoeke in Crossroads at Khayelitsha where the advance on KTC was discussed.  There were 34 witnesses who were called who testified to that in a court proceeding subsequent to what happened there.   Now what is your attitude towards that evidence?
 I will repeat the evidence.  On the morning of June the 9th policemen were seen at meetings with Witdoeke in Crossroads in Khayelitsha where the advance on KTC was discussed, what is your view?