MSIANDA NTONGA
I am saying the reason for me to shoot these people sometimes that would happen by mistake.  I did not aim at killing them, I am sure that if I aimed at killing them, I should have killed them.  If you went there to kill the people like Mr Hansel we could have killed him and Mr Pretorius and the others because I would fire more - I could have fired more than one shot and the others assaulted him until he fell down unconscious and if I wanted to kill him I would just finish him up with the firearm.  Even at Kolaga, if we wanted to stab her we had that chance, we would do it but we were not there to kill, we could have stabbed her if we wanted to do it because we had time for that.