MR HLOPE
What I know is that in 1987 at Claremont, after Mr Djamile was attacked by a hand grenade, there were people who belonged to UDF and they were swearing at Mr Djamile and they were swearing heavy at Mr Djamile.
	I saw this happening and during that week Mr Djamile called me - he actually sent my father to call me and when I arrived at his house he took me behind his house and he asked me if I knew the boys who were swearing at him.   I told him yes, I knew those boys and he also asked me if I can go with the police to point out to the houses where the boys were staying and  I said yes, I can do that. 
	And then I stayed at his house because he told me to stay there.  I stayed with  Vuzi Mbete and Mr Djamile came to us, he had three balaclavas and three overalls and he an ammunition inside a Standard Bank plastic bag.  He gave me torch and he gave Vuzi and this other boy bullets and then he told me that we should go and I must point out the houses belonging to these boys who swore at him the other day.
	As we were going there we used shortcuts and as we approached the river - it was dark - we started wearing our balaclavas and our overalls.  We went straight to the boys' house who were UDF as well and at that place, they call it Magogokweni and it is built by a corrugated sink.  We started knocking - they told me to kick the door, I did so and then we went inside the house, the three of us.  
	They started shooting.  They boys were sleeping and they started shooting at them.  As they were shooting, I heard one of them crying, screaming asking why, what's going on, what have we done and I could recognise the voice that belonged to Begelita.
	After that it was silent, the screaming went off and then we started running back to Mr Djamile's house.  At Mr Djamile's house we were asked by him as to how we went.  We told him the operation went very well.  And then he gave us muti to wash ourselves with and to drink as well and then he told me to go back home.  I went home and the next day he sent my father to call me again.
	I went to Mr Djamile and he told me to go back to were we shot as to try and find out what was going on after the previous night's shooting.  As I arrived there, there was blood all over the place and I learnt that those boys whom we shot at were not dead, we actually shot at their feet so they survived.  
	I went back to Mr Djamile, I told him, he looked unhappy and told me to go and call Vela and Vuzi and he asked them as to what happened, he sent them to kill those UDF members but now they've survived.  I couldn't stay longer, I left.