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Yes I can.  Mncedisi went away in 1975 between August and September.  He left the place whilst attending school at Zweletemba in Kingwilliamstown.  During that period Charles Sebe came with a list of the lists of children.  They were 15 in number and he said they went to Tanzania.  They went to establish homes there.  Two weeks after he came, security forces came from Cambridge and visited my mother whom they asked the whereabouts of her son. My mother said that he was at school, she didn't give the information that Charles was here to the security officers.  The people came here and asked frequently, and my mother insisted that the child was at school.  This continued for several years, and we didn't hear anything about what happened, but the security forces kept on visiting us.
 I think it was in 1980, the security officers composed of black people came here.  Then when they saw that my mother was afraid, they said she must not fear, they are doing their job there. At some stage my mother began to feel very ill.  She was an invalid because she was disturbed by this.  She suffered a stroke in 1987 and her face was disfigured until 1990 when she died in February.
 I was the survivor and then there was a person who came EAST LONDON  HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE
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from my place who told me that Mncedisi is still alive.  He said he saw him in 1978.  He said there was a meeting in Tanzania and he saw the child.  I was happy to learn that he was still alive because we were afraid that there were people coming.  Although he was not coming back, some of the that were in exile were aware that he was still alive.  I was always hoping that any day he may come in and return from exile. In 1994 I received card which I'm showing to you.  It says they were at a meeting in Tanzania.
 As I last saw him a very long time ago I doubted his face.  They showed me that he was in the first row and is the one with the cap on.  Why he used a hat was because he was burned while still very young.