MR KNIGHT
Mr Chairman, I share the view of Mr Hugo in this matter.  Mr Matanzima's evidence doesn't take my case any further.  However, just a suggestion from my part, with regard to his representative.
	My recollection is that he said he was going to take instructions.  It might be an idea for the Evidence Leader to contact him possibly by phone, to find out what those instructions are, because he didn't exclude the possibility that the person would be called.  All he said that he wanted to be excused for the purpose of taking instructions.
	I can't take the matter further on that, thank you My Lord.