MR PRINSLOO
No, at that stage it was not necessary to discuss things like that in generals in staff meetings.  We knew that we had the knowledge and expertise and the special force members are there and could give the training and could do it.  The people who did the training and the instructions, the South African Police or Defence Force members, we knew that they would come from wherever, the we knew the people were there.  We did not have to tell a specific person to build a car bomb or a pipe bomb.