MOKOTEDI MPSHE
Yes Mr Chairman, the Chair reads my mind I want to believe.  I was going to say Mr Chairman, but funnily enough this is done 14 months down the line, when they were in the soup, when actually the quagmire was taking charge of them but if really, the intention was to act on behalf of the IFP and report to the IFP, what would you have expected then after the operation before landing in that quagmire to go to leadership, Mr Umhlongo and say "this is what we have done and this is on behalf of the organisation".  Fact, that was not done.  Then one really questions as to whether this was on behalf of the organisation.
	Mr Chairman, it is true as the Chair also commented or remarked that the people heard from leadership that they had to protect themselves but we cannot go that distance and say the protection meant even the killing.  For that matter actually, the applicant said it clearly it was never the policy of the ANC to kill.