MR HUGO
Thank you.  Mr Botha, Mr Radebe will furthermore say that after the plaster man had been removed after the second person had been removed, his recollection was that one or two more persons had been removed and Nthombi became suspicious and she started asking questions and Mr Radebe then indeed contacted the white members, I don't know whether it was with you or, but it was with white members and reported that she had become suspicious.