MR VAN ZYL
Chairperson, what I am trying to say here is that it is not correct that it was done in the presence of Botha and Chappie Maree and so forth, that was not the practice.  When - the statement is incorrect, I would have only discussed it with Staal and the Co-ordinator, and I know that the person from the Medical Regiment was introduced to me and it was said that as soon as I obtain the pills I have to hand it over to him.  The only other person that I know of who knew of this project of Omar, with regard to the pills, is Nick, but as far as I know Chappie did not have any knowledge and as far as I know Kalla also didn't know, they were not part of the discussions.