FERDINAND BARNARD
What objective could I achieve, to satisfy my thirst for vengeance?  No.  It wouldn't have worked that way.  If I had wanted that, I would have given the Attorney-General an appropriate statement with all the appropriate facts and all these people would have been in the cells with me and every morning we would unlock the cells and all of us would have stood together in a row, to go and fetch our porridge.
	It does not work that way.  Of all the conscious operatives, Ferdi Barnard is the only one who went to prison, and it isn't only because of my own doing as the suggestion has been made.  Then there is also those from DCC, not one of the DCC members are in prison, only Ferdi Barnard.
	I have made it clear, I don't wish to bring 45 more persons into jail, because then I will have to look at Joe Verster's face every single day, and I really don't want that.