BOY VUSIMUZI GWAMANDA
He was one of the councillors Mfageni Gumede who were looking after the community and a school.
"That was the time when he took me to Zone D IFP Chairman and explained to him that I'm Gwamanda and the chairman said to me he understood perfectly well what I was saying but he had a problem as to which group I was a member and I told him that I have just got discharged from prison and I don't have any knowledge inasfar as members and political groups are concerned.
	Zonti told me and put it explicitly clear that I should be an IFP member because if I'm one I won't targeted ...[end of tape] pretty well in the community if I'm not an IFP member.  So for me to be comfortable in the area I should be an IFP member.
	Even at home my sisters fled to Newcastle.  So many of my family members fled because of the situation that prevailed at the time.  I explained to him that I met AWB members in prison and they also pleaded with me to work hand in hand with them and I was trained as well.  That was the time I met Mfayela, the one who is in Parliament here in kwaZulu Natal, and he said it is fine and he understands quite well what I'm explaining and I am an IFP member now officially.  He wanted me to be his bodyguard.  I agreed to that.  
	He told me that he would organise that I should go to Ulundi and meet General Mati and also be give a police card so that I may not be arrested by the SAP.  I was taken to Ulundi.  We arrived there at night.  I was taken to the office where I met General Mati.  There were pictures around of Buthelezi."