JULY MABHOKO MTSWENI
We arrived at the house where my grandmother had fled to, the two bakkies stopped at the gate, the one that I was driving and the one that Phillip was driving.  When we stopped, then we alighted the bakkie, the people who were in the back and the people who were in the front.  We entered the yard where my grandmother was.
	We found the man who was the owner of the house.  We told this man that we were looking for Emma Mtsweni, our grandmother and he said that she wasn't there.  There was one Victor Ntuli who kicked the door open.  My grandmother was in that house or in that room, and my other brothers got inside and took her forcefully.
	They took her to the bakkie, at the back of the bakkie and they also boarded the bakkie.  Others were at the back and others were in the front.  I also boarded the van and we started the cars.  We drove back.  We drove back to Pieterskraal.