JACOBUS JOHANNES DE RU
Not before he started working for me, no.
	Your honour, on the 6th Fouche again came to me.  It was approximately seven o'clock that night and he gave me information that the people would want to commit an armed robbery at the Hypersave Business Complex at Vaalpark and that he must accompany them.  He also said that they will rob the place at 5 o'clock the morning of the 7th.  I conveyed this information to my District Commander, Swanepoel.  Fouche also told me that he will use a vehicle, that they would steal that evening.  It would be a Honda Ballade.  However, later that evening he would come back to me to tell me if a vehicle was found.  At approximately nine o'clock I brought all the detectives together in my office who were on duty as well as Warrant Officer in charge of the dog unit, as well as members of the Internal Units who worked in Sasolburg at that stage and then I informed them regarding the information that we received.  All of us then planned how to act.  We were concerned about the safety of Fouche.  
	From my office we went to the scene where we looked at the scene.  Because of the location it was very difficult to determine what would - it was in a neighbourhood which was known to me to be very dangerous or it would be dangerous for the people or that these people would be dangerous and that they have got various firearms and also access to a wide variety of firearms and I also knew at that stage that they were involved in attacks and murders of six policemen.  According to the information that Fouche conveyed to me, the last of these policemen were shot the Friday evening the 3rd April.  According to him one policeman was shot and killed and one was just injured.  This information I checked up on and it was confirmed that there was such an incident but that one policeman was seriously injured and one not as seriously injured.