ADV POTGIETER
Thank you Chairperson, Ms Qayi this was in 1985 - it's 11 years ago - now the two children that you spoke about that are still living with you in a way - the one is 25 now and the other one is 23 it I heard you correctly - so - 21 I'm sorry, 21 - so the one would have been 11/10 - 10 years old and the other one about 14 when you were detained is that correct?