CHAIRPERSON
I'm not saying that.  I mean you have to tell us in terms of Section 20(2), where do you see your applicant fitting within the provision of Section 2(a) up to (f)?  Now you've referred us to Section 20(2)(d), which obviously presents us with a little difficulty in that you have conceded that Dudu was not, to the applicant's knowledge, a member of a particular organisation.  So if the applicant acted against her, he was directing his action against which member of which organisation?  Because that section requires you to direct your action against a person who is known to be your opponent or to belong to an organisation that is publicly known to be an opponent of the ANC.  That is where your difficulty lies, isn't it?