ADV PRIOR
Mr Chairman I agree with everything that Mr Van den Berg said.  I do apologise to the extent that Mr Van den Berg was not fully appraised of all the documents, but may I just put on record that from the nature of the applications before the Amnesty Committee and our discussions with the ANC desk, that is Mr Brian Kopede and the former counsel that was involved with Mr Matshididi and Mr Shoke, at no stage was it envisaged that there were would be a dispute about the people who were injured and to that extent I think the Committee will also recall that I did not put up all the bundles of damaged property, which had been prepared, we didn't simply want to burden or have the voluminous statements read and wasting time because certainly my understanding was that there was no dispute about who was injured and what was damaged.