MR DU PLESSIS
I know Mr Chairman, but this specific part where my client's are involved was not dealt with fully.  I know and I've read the record about those questions.  I won't go into the detail of the operation itself, I just want to establish the probabilities of Mr Ngo having being sent there.  If you'll just give me that opportunity please.
	Now Mr Ngo, did Colonel Loots - Colonel Coetzee, did they know that you knew Mr Venter, did you tell them?