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But you see General there's more involved here.  What is involved here is that General van der Merwe, amongst others, gives testimony with regard to a particular incident where instructions were given by Minister Le Grange that there had to be use of Zero handgrenades, it's a handgrenade set at the Zero setting so that the moment that you draw the pin it explodes, and that these handgrenades were to be given to persons, persons who had the intention to attack the homes of police officers with these handgrenades which led to these people being blown up by the handgrenades the moment they drew the pins.  He has given testimony that he himself gave that instruction, that he received the instruction from Minister Le Grange.
	Here we have a particular incident where the actions went beyond the normal legal legitimate action which police officers were allowed to carry out.  This occurred illegally and General van der Merwe gave testimony with regard to this.  He also gave testimony with regards to Khotso House, where Khotso House was attacked with a bomb which was also an illegitimate and illegal action.  All that I am asking you is whether you bore any knowledge of, for instance, the Zero handgrenade incident?