HENDRIK JOHANNES PETRUS BOTHA
Chairperson, the idea was or the plan was that the two informants would drive with the bakkie.  After they crossed over the border illegally through the fencing and Wasserman and Du Preez would take the vehicle through the border post and they would give the bakkie to the informants who would travel on their own to Manzini and the two informers had to meet Zandile.