MS VAN DER WALT
With respect, Mr Chair, if one looks at this print-out on page 137 in total, then with respect I would like to put it to you that he should still have been alive because an instruction was given there.  I think the ANC was quite up to date with its records and if he had been dead by then, the ANC would have known it especially if he was one of their members and Oupa Madondo, if he had died in 1980, the ANC would have known it and then they would not have given such an instruction, especially seen in the light of the position of Sidebe.  He was one of the Commanders of the ANC and he would have been up to date.