CHRISTOFFEL PIERRE VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Revolutionary war is there to try to replace an existing dispensation.  It's mostly politically inspired, and that is aimed at the constitutional leg because the State is the ruler on constitutional grounds.
	During the time of Katzen in the mid-80's alternative structures had already been established, especially at local level.  There were major intimidation campaigns waged against the population, especially those who were not part of, or not seen as part of the revolutionary onslaught.  There were incidents of terror in the province, there were skirmishes with terrorists, there was training given in a clandestine way to trainee terrorists and there was a whole diversity of revolutionary statements, which we have already touched on.
	In certain areas, in the mid-80's, especially in the command which I was responsible for, there were already certain liberated areas which according to the statements of the ANC had to be made ungovernable.