MR VERSTER
I think I qualified it yesterday, I said that I was under the impression that there had been documentation and I'm still under that impression.  Certain aspects I asked for privilege and certain aspects I said were grey to me, and after I saw the documentation of eleven years ago or ten years ago, a long time ago, I came to the realisation what had happened and I tried to rectify it because I am here in front of this Committee to be granted amnesty and that which is happening now.