MR LAX
We're not talking about Shabalala's release here, we're talking about Ndaba's release and it seems clear to me that in your mind the elimination of Shabalala had, that decision was well on the way to being made much earlier in this process by this stage you'd probably already made that decision, although you hadn't necessarily expressed it to anybody.  But Ndaba was a different kettle of fish according to your evidence so far.