RONNIE KASRILS
Certainly and I readily would admit to being proud of the fact that I participated in a movement that sought at all times to find a way of protecting people and to do so in an organised and disciplined way.  We preferred peace, we've shown this in fact and Robert McBride is a much maligned citizen of our country, has shown that in fact what had driven him was the quest for peace and justice and freedom so it's very, very different to view the actions of such people as against those who were doing everything possible to prevent change, freedom, peace and justice to come about.  I think it's not correct to view people in the same way, it depends what cause you are serving, what the objective is about.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR MAKANJEE