GRATINA NINELA
There is a time when I went to CR Swart to find out from him what was really the cause of his detention.  I wasn't allowed to see him.  The white police that I cam across there told me that he was a member of Umkhonto weSizwe.  He asked me if I knew anything about Umkhonto weSizwe.  I said no, because I didn't know anything about that.  So from him I didn't hear why he was detained.  That policeman refused me to see him.  He took a few pairs of underpants for changing and gave the rest of the clothes that I had for him to change, back to me.