JACOBUS JOHANNES DE RU
We threw the shock grenades.  After that my whole planning was that we would tell these people that they must hand themselves over.  You must realise that we realised that they were dangerous people, that is why we also wanted Fouche to get out of the vehicle because we were scared that if we act with Fouche in the vehicle he could be killed.  If they shoot him or we shoot him, if the attack starts we realise at that stage that these people were involved in attacks on Police and it was no problem for them to kill.  When the shock grenades exploded, at that second I had no other idea but that we were being shot at.