RUSSELL ALLY
I will just give you a few minutes to gather your thoughts and then if you do not mind I would like to ask you a few questions, just going through your statement, just to help us with our enquiries.
 ... been a member of the ANC.  Now, we know that the ANC was only unbanned in 1990.  Now, do you just want to clarify that.  When you say ANC, do you mean more broadly the United Democratic Front.  In other words organisations which were sympathetic to the ANC or are you actually saying that your brother was a member of the ANC's underground structures, because remember it was not a legal organisation in the 1980's.