PHILLIPUS CORNELIUS KLOPPERS
: Yes, I made an amendment that I had first manufactured the pipes myself, but later during the Court, if I remember correctly, I amended it and said that the pipes had not been manufactured by me, and that I had obtained them from General Nick Fourie.   I did this because Nick Fourie was deceased by that point.   I said that I did it to protect him, that was not the case.  I was told by General Japie Oelofse who was in detention with us, that I should use Nick Fourie's name.