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Yes, but the suggestion has been that one goes further, and I submit if that is implemented that these persons are approached, there may well be an indication that they wish to place evidence before this Committee and it is on that basis that I make that remark.
	Mr Chairman, may I be permitted finally to refer the Committee to the matter of Azanian People's Organisation & Others v The President of the Republic of South Africa & Others which was reported in the Butterworth Law Reports Constitutional Law, 1996, Volume 8, 1015 particularly at page 1029, and with the leave of the Committee I wish to read out paragraph 20 which appears in marginal note b to e.
	It effects really the position of the victims and it is appropo the comments of Mr Visser, that the victims really have no say or no locus standi and possibly flowing from that then interest, in the identities of these persons.
	In Section 20(7) to the extent to which it immunises wrongdoers from criminal prosecution, nevertheless objectionable on the grounds that amnesty might be provided in circumstances where the victims or the dependants of the victims, have not had the compensatory benefit of discovering the truth at last or in circumstances where those whose misdeeds are so obscenely obsessive excessive, as to justify punishment, even if they were perpetrated with a political objective during the course of the conflict in the past, some answers to such difficulties are provided in the subsections of Section 20.
	The Amnesty Committee may grant amnesty in respect of the relevant offence only if the perpetrator of the misdeed makes a full disclosure of all relevant facts.  If the offender does not, and in consequence thereof, the victim or his or her family is not able to discover the truth, the application for amnesty will fail.  Moreover it will not suffice for the offender merely to say that his or her act was associated with a political objective.
	I end the quote there.  Mr Chairman, it is obvious from the reaction of the victims and their families and possibly the community at large, that if there were co-perpetrators in this type of conduct, and those persons were living among them, I submit that it is relevant to full disclosure, that those persons are named and are known.
	Thank you Mr Chairman.