MS VAN DER WALT
Mr Chairperson with respect I would like to ask or state the applicant's evidence will now follow just after he arrived at the game farm.  It is actually impossible to take it incident for incident because I do not want to take it forward, all the evidence because at certain stages certain bombs went out because the other applicants who were for example just involved in the Randfontein incident, but his evidence entails an overview of all the bombs because he personally did not go out with the pipe bombs.