THULANI CHRISTOF MADLALA
He was a member, a person that I would go to sometimes and I would ask him to lend me his firearm that he was using for protection, the firearm that he was using at the time because at that particular period the commander was not with us, he had established a certain group with the SACP members.  Therefore it became extremely difficult for us to acquire firearms.  Therefore people had to struggle, had to try by all means to get some weapons to protect themselves.