MS HLAZO
What do you mean by followed it up because when they arrived in Oudtshoorn they didn't mention anything like that.  What do you mean -  I don't know I couldn't clear, I couldn't get a clear information even if while his father was there, they couldn't give hi a clear information  [indistinct] that there was no-one carrying the gun, they just said a gun shot him.  I couldn't get a clear information.