FERDINAND BARNARD
Chairperson, before I answer the question and elaborate on it, I would just like to add that I don't have any problem with disclosing the name of any person who was an operative with me, or who was involved with me, or who gave me orders or with whom I was involved in specific tasks, but what I am not prepared to do under any circumstances is to disclose the identity of any informer, whether the person was an askari or whether the person was an informer, whatever the case may be, I am not prepared to do so, because it will jeopardise those persons, and I feel that in the same spirit of reconciliation, it would not be the proper thing to do, because many of those people had no other choice but to play along with us.
	It is not like these grand recces who make me sick to the bone, who gave orders to me and who ran to go and testify in Wouter Basson's case.  No one pressurised them to do it, but all of them came running in with a Bible under the arm, and gave evidence against these people.  However, the informers were in a completely different situation, they were pressurised and some of the askaris were placed in the position where they had to cooperate or die.
	Sketched against that background, I do not wish to disclose the identities, but I am more than prepared to say or to indicate what I did with them, without disclosing their identities.