MR BLACK
As far as the incidents in respect of which the Committee is now seized with at this hearing, I have no problems about that.  I'm sure Mr Gushu would also be able to say that he gave his lawyers certain instructions.  But as far as the incident which is not referred to in the second statement, and that's an incident for which he was not convicted and he is not serving a prison sentence for, my concern was that I did not want it to be said that Mr Gushu is not making a full disclosure, because it's quite clearly a serious misunderstanding and I've again had the opportunity to confer with Attorney Mohammed and she again ... (intervention)