WOUTER J BASSON
There was an investigation I remember, early in 1990, the Harms Commission of Inquiry was appointed and then for a considerable period after that I was still involved in the CCB.  It was myself and a couple of people whose objective it was to manage the projects, so as to hand over people who could still be used, useful people.  So it was purely a period in which I was still paid by the CCB or the State to help to manage the CCB.