MR HOBBS
My response to that is that Mr Dukada is being selective in looking and raising issues from these certificates.
	I would draw your attention to the second paragraph of Dr Uys' report and I read "I did a mini mental status examination on Mr Matanzima.  He scored 15 out of 30, a score below 24 out of 30 is indicative of dementia.  Mr Matanzima did poorly with the orientation part, memory part, calculation part and drawing part.  I therefore believe he suffers from a dementia of Alzheimer's type.  It therefore renders him incapable of giving any coherent account of himself or any events."
	Mr Chairman, more clearly than that, you cannot have it in my submission.