MR WILLS
Sorry, I realise that we are pushed for time, Mr Chairman, I will try and be as quick as I can.   Coetzer testifies to this conflict that existed and also Mr de Kock alludes to it in his affidavit, that Botha wanted Mbane to be sent back to the house and Coetzer didn't think this was prudent and there was a bit of an altercation, by this I mean a verbal altercation apparently between Botha and Coetzer and as a result of this, it wasn't amicably resolved, as a result of this, Coetzer withdrew his men?