FERDINAND BARNARD
No, it is not the truth, Chairperson.  This is specifically the tactic of distancing that I made use of, while I was in Section 29 detention, and I realised that I would have to distance myself from the CCB.  I did this while under detention in terms of Section 29, I fabricated the story.
	The section regarding Gen Basie Smit was not true, I was never tasked to work on him.  I tried to create a possibly credible scenario from particulars that they had given me and questions that they had asked me, and aspects that I fabricated myself.  I wanted to remove myself from the context of the organisation for obvious reasons, due to the incident of 1 May, I wanted to indicate that I was no longer part of the CCB, before the murder of Dr Webster, because I realised that I was still a member of the CCB at that stage, which would have created an ever greater suggestion that I did the job, which wasn't true.