UNKNOWN
I apologise.  The case docket of sedition was investigated under cover of Gululetu CR 191/7/86 and was intrusted to Detective Warrant Officer Jooste.
 Johnson Ngxobongwana was not the only arrestee charged, others charged were Moster Nongiaza, William Nyiala, Tandile Mafyaya and Zimaza Mininzi.
 I have managed in the archives at Guguletu to trace SAP register 256, this is a register of cases received by a detective unit and that entry 2786 reflects that the case docket was opened and that it was withdrawn on the 13-05-1087.  The actual case docket has been destroyed.
 No reference to a charge of possession of firearm is recorded, I have also discussed Ngxobongwana's arrest with Captain Jooste who concurs with the circumstances of the arrest which took place on the 21-07-1986.
 He however, cannot recall the firearm incident.  I however, have such a recall.  Captain Jooste is also able to recall the arresting Ngxobongwana was released on R50-00 bail after we had opposed the granting of bail during the morning of his first court appearance.
 I remember that following Ngxobongwana's arrest which was regarded as a major breakthrough, that his arrest was reported to the then Divisional Criminal Investigations Officer, Brigadier Van der Westhuizen whose retired from the police force as a Lieutenant General.
 He was enthusiastic about the arrest.  Either the morning of the arrest or the following day, I accompanied Warrant Officer Jooste to Wynberg Magistrate's court where bail was opposed.
 I remember that Ngxobongwana was represented by an Attorney, Mr Brian Latslow.  I clearly remember feeling rather elated with our success.  This feeling of elation was however shortlived because during the early afternoon of the same day that Ngxobongwana appeared in court, I received a telephone call from an agitated Brigadier Van der Westhuizen.
 I obviously no longer can remember the exact conversation between the Brigadier and myself, but the impression was that he had been severely rebuked because of our actions against Mr Ngxobongwana.
 And that he had been instructed by either the State President or Minister to see to it that Ngxobongwana was released on bail.
 I was informed that the authorities were fully conversant with Ngxobongwana's court, that it was not a people's court, but a tribal court.  I was instructed to immediately see to it that Ngxobongwana was released on bail.
 I phoned the State Prosecutor at Wynberg's Magistrate court and related the instructions which I had received from Brigadier Van der Westhuizen to him.
 Later that same afternoon Ngxobongwana was brought before court and released on R50-00 bail.  I was at Guguletu but for a few months between June and August 1986.  During my time at Guguletu I tried to please evenhandedly against all wrongdoers, irrespective of where their political sympathies were.
 It was however difficult to maintain this policy as it was clear that the Security Police and especially a Captain Flip du Toit, carried a torch for vigilante leaders in Crossroads.
 It also appeared that I was not acceptable to my superiors as I was transferred to Sea Point on the 01-09-1986.  Captain Du Toit was to my knowledge always aware of actions which we took.  He was at Guguletu on a daily basis and we were required to furnished him with details of our investigations.
 While I was at the unit, he never supplied us with any information which was of any value.  During the period of time I served at Guguletu, I held the rank of Captain.  I was transferred to Guguletu from the Murder and Robbery Unit following unhappiness already expressed to this Commission, resulting from the Guguletu-7  incident.