ROGER KACHERO RAMASITSI
I think I should start at the time when the man was released himself, I mean the Honourable Mr Mandela.  The time he was released, I still remember every feeling of the youth here in Venda, particularly in our region, there was a general feeling that we have to be free and that freedom was to come through our contribution.  So as Mr Professor here said, in the urban areas the youth were involved in many things to render the country ungovernable as such.  So in the rural areas there came to be a time when things weren't going right, as I can say.