TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  It was the State Pathologist's report that was sent to us which determined the cause of death, because they said he had hanged himself, but we never got the death certificate. Let's just go back to your statement.  What was happening in the community at that time, the Lamontville community?   ---   I think it was during the era of Msisi Duba, so there was a lot of violence.