MR MAZAHAM
It is just that I didn't want that inference to be drawn on that failure to make a statement.  In so far as the business and economic considerations are concerned, I submit and I am going to ask Mr Moringer to amplify a little further, that the regrettable thing throughout his trial and throughout the subsequent developments were repeated press reports and a continuous hounding both by local and international press, as to Mr Moringer's involvement financially, with the Ciskei Air Factory which had to close and secondly, with regard to what he will now lead evidence on, with relation to a lottery that he had attempted to set up for purposes of the Police in Transkei.  As a result of that, I think inadvertently and incorrectly, Mr Moringer has been associated with the victim as having had some business considerations as opposed to political.  Mr Moringer, can you please tell this Commission what exactly led to the involvement of the lottery which you were attempting to set up in the Transkei and which is alluded to in quite strong measure, in the annexures to this bundle of documents?