CHAIRPERSON
And their conclusion was based on rumours? ... that they were convinced because on the 27th they saw him at court while they were there and he was talking to the police, so that is proof beyond doubt as far as they are concerned that because he was seen talking to the police, Mr Mpisane knows that they are at court, he sees them, they talk to him after the occasion to fix a venue for a meeting and a time for a meeting, and that is the background.
	On the 29th they go there armed, fully determined to wipe him out whether he is seen with the police or not?  That is the picture that we are left with.