MR JACK DEMONSTRATES
Let me tell you this, if you want me to answer that.  Are you aware that Mr Nieuwoudt's main objection to the likes of the Molly Blackburnes, because they brought the idea to us that we could go and lay charges or complain to police, if assaulted.  But before that, they knew we would never dare to do that. How many cases do you know, except this one, where political detainees have ever laid charges or civil claims against security police; how many cases?