MR KOOPEDI
Page 7 of the bundle of documents.  He says
"Instructions were given on reconnaissance methods and planning and on the collection of data."
This is the role that he played.  He had no role Chairperson in terms of the reconnaissance that was done in the country.  He gave instructions on how to carry on reconnaissance.  If therefore somebody did not carry out those instructions, he would not know and clearly he would not know whether the units went out of their parameters when they laid the mines, because he was not party to the giving of instructions in terms of saying where they should plant the mines.
	I therefore finally submit, Chairperson, that we do not need these people and we don't need to have them subpoenaed, they will not assist this hearing at all.  Thank you Chairperson.