IAN MUNRO PHILLIPS
Yes, the training of members in the practical elements of self defence, the responsibility of the trained people, the MK people who would necessarily be linked to them, so how they actually go about that and the instruction in which way to point the rifle etc, that responsibility not necessarily mine, however, what our job was to say that when you are undergoing that training, remember that in your mind, this is the purpose for which you are undergoing this training.
	This is how you need to conduct yourself as best as possible in that situation.
	Defence must be done with the intention of defence only.  Don't think that you are going to be part of an SDU and then you are going to use the same skills to go and rob banks.  That would be - so it is that general sort of level, but the actual practical thing, that is somebody else's responsibility and would have fallen officially in terms of ANC policy, to the MK contingent, that was linked to and provided for the assistance of training of that nature to the SDU's.