CORNELIUS ADOLF JANSE ODENDAL
No I never communicated with him.  I would like to explain Mr Commissioner.  We went out in the field every day, we did our jobs.  Every platoon had a person there who could keep records, he wrote it down, it was communicated to the operational centre in Manenberg and from Manenberg it was conveyed to the operational centre where Colonel Vermeulen received that and they took that further.