JOE MAMASELA
I do not for a moment, I do not for a moment believe anything they said because I was there as a matter of fact and they don't dispute the fact that I was there.
	Both factions have different versions of what happened and both factions placed me one way or the other, into the assault and the others put me into the murder, therefore Mamasela was put in the assault and the murder case.  
	And this theory of these people being burnt and their ashes being thrown into the river, as far as I'm concerned that's fantasy of it's worse kind.  I don't believe until this day that those people were burnt and their bodies, their ashes were thrown into the river, I don't believe that.  And I've got reasons why I don't believe that.