MR WILLS
: The only thing that I want you to testify on your own in this regard is you saw when Mr Mkhize was giving evidence, you saw when Mr Ngubane was asking questions, that Mr Nkosa Nati Jouber was brought forward for all of you to see.   Do you remember ...(indistinct) Committee members.   I know that you don't remember his name, but what I'm saying is do you recall the person who was standing here, who was clearly very badly injured, even now;  standing in front of the Committee a couple of days ago?