AGNES HLOMELA
Yes. Ncamili was standing just there and then I asked him what he was going to do since my child was riddled with bullets like this. I said to the other children they must pick up the bullets because my child was shot right in my house.  Jafta said I must just leave the bullets alone, he would take care of them. His hand was completely damaged.  Some of his fingers were lying on the ground. I just sat on top of him and started praying.  God lifted me up.
 The people from the Roman Catholic church took me to hospital.
 The following week the people from the organisation came and advised me to lay charges because he was shot and he was innocent.  Magquabi asked me what had happened.  I said it is the very same case with the children that he used to represent in courts from the UDF, they've been looking for him, he was staying in the bush, he couldn't stay in the house ..... (end of tape 13)
(start of tape 14)..... the others in the bush because we used to give them food there, they couldn't stay home. How can he ask me that question knowing very well about these children.  Since they took that statement, nothing happened.