MR VAN RENSBURG
Thank you, Mr Chairman, there's just one thing.  I do not agree with Ms Mtanga that the evidence supports her allegation or her submission that specifically the fifth applicant deliberately minimised his involvement in these events.
	And, as support therefor, I would like to quote one of the victims, it was Mr Mahumela who said about Mr Netshivale, that he, that is Mr Mahumela, could not read any concealment in the evidence of Mr Netshivale as it was led before this Commission.
	And I think this should be significant.  Thank you, Mr Chairman.