CHAIRPERSON
I'm saying that it's a bit unfair because from you've put to the witness by way of, from this confession is that people were being prevented.  There is no indication from this confession as to how that occurred.  Did it occur by way of killing people, harassing them, one doesn't know.  That is why I'm saying that it may well be that that's what it was, they were prevented by being killed but one doesn't know.