ADV VISSER
Mr Chairman may I be permitted to call Brigadier Coetsee.  You will find his evidence in your folder, B, at page 20.  I take it Mr Chairman that in view of the fact that the victims might wish to put questions, as I understood the position to be, to these witnesses they can't be excused until we adjourn the application.  I'm not pressurising you, there hasn't been a request but there may be one.