CHAIRPERSON
But if in fact the question of fraud was not of importance to you, I would have thought that that would have been all the more reason why you would have to discuss it with Mr Nieuwoudt and say to him, well, listen these other things I see them, they are important, but there is this aspect of fraud, I am not happy about it.
	I don't think that the question of fraud should be brought into consideration for the purpose of eliminating people because how can you kill somebody and give as one of the reasons the fact that he committed fraud?  Why didn't you raise it in that context?