TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  It comprised of a Brigadier Niels du Plooy from Security Police Headquarters, which visited us with a so-called "terr" in those days, whom they called "Bra Moss."  It is one of the first ANC cadres that they caught, I believe.  And they would come to the officer's course to lecture us with publications of - revolutionary publications, which were not allowed for the eyes of the world ever, and trunks - two police trunks full of guns, AK47s, land mines, limpet mines, whatever, and Moss would then demonstrate it to us.  We were also lectured in detail by Brigadier Niels du Plooy on terrorism and communism and what went with it.