MR VISSER
Now in paragraph 11 at page 147, he did not specifically implicate you, but - I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm thinking of 13, terribly sorry, Mr chairman.  In paragraph 11 Mr Motsamai says that you and he petrol-bombed houses of other political activists and he says, and he mentions the houses belonging to Khuze- K-h-u-z-e and Sekgopi- S-e-k-g-o-p-i Malebo, it looks like - M-a-l-e-b-o.  Do you know anything or did you take part in petrol bombing any houses including that of Mr Khuze or Malebo?  Sorry just repeat your answer please.