CHAIRPERSON
There's one point I would like you to clarify and it may affect the question of proportionality.  It wasn't put specifically to the applicant, it may have caused distress, that that is the question of ordering.  On the information he said the only information he had about their supposed IFP activities were what emerged at the meeting.  He then orders this mob to kill these two people in the presence of their nine-year-old daughter.  Can that type of behaviour be justified as being for a political objective?