PETRUS PAULUS STEYN
No not at all Chairperson.  He chatted to them and he introduced us to them and then they offered us some coffee and after we had finished our coffee they were busy with packing. We couldn't determine if they were leaving on holiday or what was going on but afterwards I found out or I learned from them as we were speaking that they were also members of the AWB but they were unknown to me because they did not live in my area or my district.
	The two ladies and the young girl, after they packed their things Jaco Nel asked them if we can use their flat just to stay over for the night. I do not know if he gave them any reasons, I cannot really say because I was not with them the whole time.  He was moving around quite often within this building, mostly in the foyer where we drank coffee we sat there.  He went with them to the room and helped them to pack and they had a vehicle I think it was a blue Golf and they moved around in this vehicle.  They had lean to where they parked the car underneath.  This was at the flat where they stayed.  
	I am not sure but I think Jaco asked them if they could not pull the car out and whilst they were putting their luggage into the Golf, Jaco pulled his car underneath this lean-to so that the car wouldn't be visible because at that stage he still had the original registration plates on the car and there was talk that he would put forged number plates on it later.
	After a while the people left and when they left Jaco Nel told them that he would see them later because he knew where they were going.  Apparently it was a resort at the Hartebeespoort dam where they were going. I still to this day do not know where that place is but I confirm that I was there myself. They used this place for training purposes according to him.