MR MULLER
Thank you Chair.  My apologies to Mr Wills but I don't think it takes the matter a lot further.  I can only say that the purpose of the appearance on behalf of the implicated persons was not to oppose the application of the applicant, and that was put on record during the hearings and it was also under, the point is also made in the Heads.  It is merely to protect the interests of the implicated persons, and it is correct so that no evidence was led on behalf of the implicated persons, but the reason therefor was that it wouldn't have taken the matter further.  We have put on record that the Goldstone Commission investigated the, some of the allegations that were made, and the only purpose in protecting the rights of the implicated persons is to request this Committee, and I submit that there is no, that there is not enough evidence to make a negative finding against any of the implicated persons, which might lead to a, that they might be charged or whatever, and I think that was the purpose of these, of the appearance on behalf of the implicated persons.  And I think that is how far I can take it.  Thank you very much.