MR LAX
Mr Wessels, I don't know if you or any of the other parties are necessarily aware of the decision of the TPD in an unreported matter of Botha, the Review Application, where the Presiding Judge in that matter took the view that these criteria set out in Section 20(3) are all indiciae, in a sense, of what is political and are not requirements per se.  I just thought I'd draw that to your attention, because it's relevant to the question of proportionality.  In that particular case proportionality wasn't the matter under discussion, it was another aspect of those list of indiciae or criteria.  But there is that unreported decision that we're aware of, because that matter is being reheard in due course, as a result of that Review Application.