MR SANDI
Can I just make a request here.  Perhaps this request would apply in the case of every counsel who appears for victims, families or whoever was affected in whatever way by the acts of the applicants, that whenever you ask a question, one should please bear in mind the basis of his or her objection to the application, having pointed out the basis on which the application or applications are being opposed.  One should bear in mind that the question or questions being asked have to be somehow related to that.  I'm not sure if I've made myself clear.