MR LAX
Yes but you were informed by Botha within six hours of his arrest or at most ten hours because they were picked up at half past 4, by the time you got to the safe house it was 5 and your evidence is that evening you were informed by Botha after he had spoken to Ndaba at the safe house, for the second time now at the safe house, that this is the outline of Operation Vula.  You knew enough to know this was a high profile matter, correct?