RUSSELL ALLY
Wilheminah, thank you very much for coming and to your daughter.  These incidents, these kind of incidents are always very, very difficult and it is really for the families, at the end of the day, who will have to decide how they will deal with this, how they will live with each other.  The role of the Truth Commission is not there to dictate to families.  It's to create the opportunity for people to come and speak, to see what kind of reconciliation there can be, to assist, to facilitate but that is ultimately a decision that you have to take with the other families.  What responsibility we do have as a Commission is to treat all incidents of Gross Human Rights Violations the same.  I think that is the thing which people often don't properly understand that we cannot make distinctions when it comes to Gross Human Rights Violations to the acts.  People who lose their lives, people who are tortured, people who suffered severe ill-treatment, people who would disappear as a result of the political conflict.  That is where the Truth Commission really has to be even-handed and where we have to listen to all sides of the conflict, to all accounts and to treat all of those accounts in the exact same manner.  We all have different political views.  That is inevitable.  We all have different views on what the nature of the struggle was about but there are many of us, many in the Commission who believe that the struggle which people fought to end oppression, to end apartheid was a correct struggle but when it comes to the violations that were committed as a result of that struggle, there as a Commission we have a duty to treat everybody the same and we hope that this opportunity which you have had to come and speak about what happened to your brother, the way he lost his life, notwithstanding how we may feel about the politics of that conflict but the opportunity that you have to come and speak about the gross violations which your brother suffered helps in some way.  We certainly hope that some means may be found for the families of all those who were caught up in this horrific event, that some means can be found for them to speak, to try and find some peace, to try and find some understanding.  Thank you again and when we make recommendations with regard to rehabilitation and  to reparations, that will be for all victims notwithstanding which side of the political conflict they were on.  It will be for all victims.  So, thank you very much to you and your daughter for coming to speak to us.   We will break for lunch and we will come back at half past two.