MR LOWIES
I would submit that it is relevant.  The relevance is the following, it is my instructions that he was fleeing from the law and from everybody else at the time, and that is relevant, because it shows a motive why he is applying for amnesty.  I don't want to go too deep into that, but that is the crux of the matter, there is relevance and it is very pertinent to this matter.  I would not ...