MR BOOYENS
Now, I want to try and get some details of this torture session.  The first torture session involved a certain number of people that you mentioned in your evidence in chief, Niewoudt and all those people, do you remember? - du Plessis, Roelofse, Niewoudt, Bezani, Raath and yourself.  Were all of them involved in that first torture session?  Leave the statement alone, I'm talking about your evidence in chief.  Mr Danster, leave the statement alone.