MR STEPHENS
Okay, there were previous marches in the morning.  There was - I remember one specific one which was a fairly small march, where they actually walked down Plein Street in a easterly direction past the Shell House entrance.  There was a small group of Inkatha marchers, they were escorted by Police.  There were ANC - well I take it that they were ANC people because they had guns, they were waving them at the marchers that walked past.  There was one ...(intervention)