MR VAN WYK
I suppose I was, and I say the suppose because I mean if you've been in that situation only once it's difficult to compare it, but I can't really recollect how I went into the house.  All these details escape me now, and I think that was because of a state of shock. I think, although at that stage I did not put a lot of value onto a Black man's life, to see a person killed for the first time in my life did shock me to some extent.  And when I shot into the cupboard I was like an automaton, just following orders.  It really, at that stage I did not think about it twice.