VICTOR WANDA MUCHACHO MABASO
It is the same with Stephen.  I've indicated that I was, that I was on patrol.  It was supper time.  Other had to have their supper, and others were expected to go on patrol whilst others were having supper.  We all knew him.  We all knew them.  Everybody and old women and aged women and old men and everybody knew these people, knew their activities.  I came back to the office.  I was in charge of the entire operation and I suggested that he too, or should I say Beki, should be fetched, himself being the first one.  And the intention with reference to Beki was that we wanted to ask him questions and use him for our intelligence at the same time.  We wanted to use him after he had given us all the information.  He was involved in so many things.  Things that we did not know, and he told us about those things that day.  And as I, we were asking him, I said to him, if he tells the truth I will make sure that nothing befalls him.  I knew Beki being a hit squad driver, around...(indistinct) in 1990 right up to 1993.  Beki then confessed to the incident of the 18th August 1990 in Polla Park where 12 people died.  He was a driver during that incident, and he also referred to the Sam Ntuli incident who was chairperson of the Tokoza branch of the civic association, Sam who was killed.  Beki also confessed that he was involved when the memorial service was attended on Thursday people were about to go past the hostel.  You had to go through three hostels to reach Sam Ntuli's house, and people had to go back to their house to toyi toyi to pay their last respects before the funeral.  12 people died on that day and he was part of helping others.  Beki was therefore the driver of the hit squad that was operational that day.  And he also referred to incidents where Nthabazimbi tavern was attacked or a tavern at Nthabazimbi was attacked.  One of the people who were victims of the attack is confined to a wheelchair, but then importantly it was the driver of the hit squad members.  And I also observed a number of things apart from this evidence.  And these things were hurting, touching to the heart, because I could have easily said he should go back and serve as an intelligence but that was not an appropriate idea at that time.  I therefore had no choice so that I issued an order that he be killed.