ADV DE JAGER
But weren't they prevented by the community from coming to his home, they were on their way to his home and then they were prevented from coming to him?
MR R.B. CELE: It was their attitude, the utterances that they had made, they had specifically said that they had come to fetch these from Thulani.  If they had come in a proper way and said that they wanted to communicate with Thulani, they would have done so, but the community's reaction was because of their attitude.