MR MBANDAZAYO
Thank you, Member.  ... was on the driver's seat.  It's that time when he saw him going for something which he thought that he was going for a gun and he shot.  It's then he fired and unfortunately he shot Donne Meyers.  And Mike Meyers went on the other side running and Zama Thutha, the second applicant, it's then that he shot Mike Meyers, thinking that he is the person who fired the shot on his comrade and it's how he shot him.  That's the evidence they gave before this Committee.