MR MBAQA
And after they had handed over those  three or four memoranda's,  just when the people were about to move so I was walking towards John Block when I - you know I just saw what I thought was something like you  know tear gas smoke and everybody just running  away.  I didn't know what was going on there at that stage,  but I did see something like thick smoke what I thought was thick smoke and everyone running.
Well  I thought at that stage that it was tear gas so I also ran away.  But I - I just ran a short distance and what possibly happened you know  it just occurred to me,  at that point as to what possibly happened.  So I then went back you know and - but when I went back I could not hear you know what - what people were saying, my eyes - my ears I beg your pardon, were sort of you know that sensation you have if you had been swimming - that sensation - so I could not properly what people were saying it was just like you know - and I saw people lying there - I saw some of our own people were there. Some comrades I cannot recall who they were, but they were there - and others were saying,  call the ambulance and so on and  I ran again to the ANC office.
And then I found Mafu Davids and the others they were there and some other people who had been slightly injured,  who had managed to - because the ANC office was not far from that scene.  So some people who were slightly injured they were already there and I found that they had already of course  called the ambulance and so on and  you know it was just sirens -  police sirens and everything.
We then  took some of these people to  the hospital with Mafu Davids and I don't recall who  else - and we came to the hospital, there at the hospital I met Lawrence, because when that happened I thought the grenade that was with me - so has been used here, so I - that's what I thought at that point, because I [intervention]