THOZAMILE JOSEPH MAKWETHU
When we went inside, Mfene said here are some of these big rats, misusing money.  He did say that.  Whilst we were still listening to that, the microphone would be given to somebody else, that is when we got confused.  There were toilets at the stage, you would only go and smoke in the toilets, that is all, you would come back again and listen to what was being said, but what I noticed is that he spoke about these big rats.  I didn't focus or listen or follow what was happening, I was thinking of sleeping at the time because I was supposed to be at home.