MR GERBER
Yes, I believed that.  Maybe I can just mention at this stage that my sources, the sources which I used, were so afraid that they would be seen in my presence, seen  to be negotiating with me, that I at one stage was driving around with R40 000 in my car to compensate these people whenever I met them at the places that they determined.   At no stage did I do anything for personal gain.  I constantly and throughout believed that I was acting reasonably.  In my capacity at Fidelity Guards and as a member of the National Party and as a citizen of South Africa I believed that I was acting reasonably in the battle against these terrorists.