GEORGE BIZOS
I'd like to place something on record.  Very early this morning the witness said among other things that we did not deal with his indemnity.  Now what I want to place on record is this, that we did read in the papers that a person claimed some form of indemnity.  At the pre-trial conference we asked for a copy of it or documentation so that we could be informed and deal with it.  It was a general question including counsel and attorney of the witness and they said well, they didn't have any documents readily available to show us but we appealed to them in the meantime to let us have whatever documents there were in order that we may deal with it but I did ask whether this indemnity was in terms of the Indemnity Act given on a .(indistinct) basis by the temporary acting State President and then Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr Pik Botha and I was told yes.  I asked whether they would favour us with a copy of the motivation of that application, I had some knowledge of it and it was in fact a letter written by Mr Wagenaar if I remember correctly in which mass - if that is what they were referring to, can we please have a copy because I don't want to argue now but at the very least the validity of that in indemnity is at the very least debatable.  I raise it at this stage because I understood the witness' remarks to be a statement that we did not deal fully with matters which were in his favour and this is why I deal with the matter now, Mr Chairperson.  If anything is to be done on it I would appeal to legal representatives of the applicants if they are going to claim anything like that they should make us - they claim the indemnity, let us make available such documentation as there may be.  That's all I wish to say, Mr Chairperson.