STEPHEN DONALD MAKHURA
Yes, Sir.  It was called black on black violence, normally by the media and other people who were not involved there in that violence but we knew that violence was not black on black violence, Sir.
"As a cadre of Umkhonto weSizwe I got in contact with some of the operatives inside the country and they advised me to go and help there at Polla Park,  to go and train the SDUs there. Polla Park was a very strong hold of the ANC.  Even militarily the place was feared by the previous rulers of this country.  We had all assortment of weapons including Vinanti airguns there.  The record states clearly that even the police, the Security Forces couldn't penetrate that place.  It was a base, a guerilla base.
	During that time violence continued because there are still hostels near Polla Park.  It was again exacerbated by the media that the ANC was fighting, I mean Xhosa speaking people were fighting Zulu speaking people.  We know by the time that it was not true.
	After getting in contact with some of the Self Defence Units there - by that time I was still staying in the township but sometimes I went to Polla Park because Polla Park is not more than five kilometres from where my brother resided in Thokoza.
	I missed being killed many a times.  Almost all my friends have been killed in Thokoza.  
	I was advised by the Self Defence Units of Polla Park to go and stay there in Polla Park.  I was given a shack to stay in.  We sometimes undertook missions to go and defend other places, for example Ermelo, Ratanda, Thembisa, Meadowlands and other places.  Some of my comrades, the SDU were arrested during those missions and some killed.
	On the 1st of April 1992 I was approached by Sebenzile Ndabene(?) ..."
Pardon Sir?