CHAIRPERSON
Right.  One other matter, I do not know if it is a waste of time or not, because I have not consulted with Mr Mbane, but you have been questioned, quite at length and it appears he is going to give evidence and I think that there are certain other things he has said which you should be given an opportunity to explain before he comes and gives such evidence, if he does and in his statement, not affidavit, which we have been given portion of, he says, and it is at page 393, paragraph 28, that while he was infiltrating these people, Lieutenant Liebenberg sent an informer by the name of Lizo, who was found to have a tape attached to his body, and that he, as Commander, decided to shoot the informer and killed him.