CHAIRPERSON
Thank you very much.  We have been notified, it was brought to our attention that arrangements were made yesterday afternoon and some of that discussion with one of the family members is on record and it was brought to our attention that Miss Cambanis was approached with a possible view to assisting the next-of-kin of the deceased in the application.  We are aware of the fact that she has been consulting with the next-of-kin and she is present at the proceedings.  Perhaps, Mr Mapoma, just for the purposes of the record you can perhaps just confirm and put on record the position of Miss Cambanis.