FERDINAND BARNARD
Sir, Mr Eugene Riley, the former member of the Narcotics Unit in Johannesburg, I recruited him.  He was appointed on a trial basis and later he was appointed on a permanent basis as an agent.  He resorted under me but he had his own establishment, his own financial structure, etcetera, and from that there was certain information concerning weapons from a Mozambique citizen.  It was either the ANC or MK, I'm not quite sure, that they stored these weapons in Natal.  An excursion was arranged where Eugene Riley and his informant and also Frans, a senior member from DCC, and various other people then came to Pietermaritzburg to work on that information.