CHAIRPERSON
Chairperson it may point to credibility because Mr Masenga says that Kezwa was one of the people that took part in the attack and the other applicant says no and I've got now a witness here that can corroborate those applicants.  But I will leave it at that, I think there's been lots of evidence about the fact that Kezwa was not there.  I'll argue about that later on.