MS LUCAS
Firstly I would like to say I was working - after he was being caught, I was going up  and down to Cape Town during the  court case, that was his mother.  He went up to Cape Town three times to the courts.
 Most of the time during the struggle time I was a worker, by the time he was sentenced, the court cases were - that was his mother, was moving up and down.  I just can remember when was Mike being sentenced, but I can - I can remember that it was March, policeman came to me at work - they come and told me that Mike was being sentenced to life - he was going to be hanged on Friday.
 We didn't know whether Mike had committed the crime, they said Mike has shot a policeman.  Police said they will take me to Fort Beaufort and then from there I  will take a train to Pretoria and  [indistinct]  they came and tell me that on Wednesday, when I arrived hom, I told my sister that situation.  Our church priest, Father Bailey came as soon as he could, he came to  give condolences and give us support, he said he will support us with finance and we will go to Pretoria.   We were taken to Pretoria by Father Bailey.
 The most painful part of this situation my - was Mike the only first criminal that his case could just take only one month and be hanged during that month?  That was the only question and it's still the only question in our minds.