W RIAAN BELLINGAN
That is correct.  We tried and we were successful to develop control mechanisms.  The place had to be neat and tidy.  Everybody knew what his responsibilities were.  It was a rehabilitation progress, we had to develop these askaris.  After a few interviews de Kock decided that they had to go to Hammanskraal so that they had to undergo crash courses to become policemen, because they had to be placed out to, sent to other units.