PHILEMON KABILA MAXAM
As I said, the situation at Mbekweni especially at that time was terrible.  Before that day, the 15th of April, on the 14th there was teargas, as usual, at Mbekweni.  People were being stoned, rubber bullets, birdshot, everything.  When there were such incidents, especially when they happened in an area when I would not be, when I was there at the time I would go and investigate so as to give a report to our leadership.  I would investigate if there anybody who had been arrested or somebody who was injured in such incidents.  Therefore, I went on this 15th to Silvertown where this occurred.
	I came across a youth group around a corner as I was going there.  I asked them that as there were people that were going to Newtown, going onto trains they were being robbed, some injured.  I asked if there were any people who had been detained or arrested.  They called me Dakinas.