CHAIRPERSON
We thank you Mrs Cekisani for coming to tell your story.  As I have said  it sketches the picture of torture which I do not think we have seen much about recently in this hearing, torture on a female person with the jumper leads of a car attached to the batteries of a motor vehicle and to the ears of a person.
 We have never come across that form of torture.  We would be very interested in discovering these means of torture so that our report to the State President can be as comprehensive and complete as possible.
 But this type of torture we find rather surprising, especially being administered to a female person.  As we have said we will follow up on what you have said here today.
 We will go to (indistinct) and Sqila and see which
other information we can obtain.  Also from Dr Botha and Dr Claasen and see which report we could obtain from them.  We thank you very much for having come.