MR STANDER
Mr Chairman, before we start, I have been in your office earlier this morning. I do have a practical problem as far as I am personally concerned in this matter.  If the intention is to just complete Mr Loots' evidence and the evidence of Mr Bokaba, I am not really necessary in these proceedings and therefore, because of the fact that I have other obligations, I will ask to be excused with the consent of the rest of the Committee.