ADV FORD
Thank you Mr Chairman.  Just getting back to an 
aspect which I referred to earlier Mr Nieuwoudt, I am going to read 
to you from subsection 7 of subsection 3, or shall we say regulation 
3, sub-regulation 7 of the Security Emergency Regulations of the 
time.  No person other than the Minister or a person acting by virtue 
of his office in the service of the State or of the government of a 
self governing territory, shall have access to a person detained in 
terms of this regulation except with the consent of and subject to 
such conditions that may be determined by the Minister or a person 
authorised thereto by him.  Do you understand that?