MR BERGER
Chairperson, whilst we're waiting for Ms Tanzer, might I just say that we've had an opportunity to glance briefly at the application that Mr Lowies intends proceeding with tomorrow morning.  It would appear that there are a number of people who are being accused of some very serious misconduct, amongst them the African National Congress.  In fact it is being alleged that the African National Congress is part of a conspiracy to manufacture evidence and other people as well.  We don't act on behalf of the African National Congress but it would appear as though their interests are being effected by this application and we would have thought that they should be given proper notice of this because they might want to make either certain representations or place certain evidence before the Committee?