MR RADEBE
Mr Chair, that Caspir we had to take.  Number one, we were highly infuriated because during the day we were not able to attack back the attackers, IFP that is, because the very same stability Caspirs were escorting these IFP people to attack the community.  Now the IFP was well protected by the police, and they had within their, on their possessions firearms, numerous of them.  Now we had no-one to be on our side, or on our side, to reinforce us or to work hand in hand with us as Inkatha had police on their side as well as the soldiers.
	Now the way we viewed the police were, was in such a way that they were working hand in hand with Inkatha attacking the community.