MR MAPOMA
Yes, Chairperson.  Before the evidence gets led, I would just like to place on record Chair that in this matter the investigative unit have managed to trace a victim W/O Liebenberg who was a policeman.  He is now based in Graaf-Reinet, he is no longer in the police service.  He was duly served with a notice and a communication has been had between him and the investigative unit and as well as our logistics officer.  He was well-advised of his rights to be present here and as well as the facilities that the TRC is prepared to make available for him to be transported to this venue, but he has indicated that he is not interested in the matter, so he won't be coming.  Thank you Chairperson.