MOKOTEDI MPSHE
That is correct Mr Chairman.  One of them has to be satisfied.  I'm taking particularly the aspect of the order or instruction by the organisation you purport to have been acting on it's behalf.  The applicant has put it very clearly that this was their own initiative and that is also on the papers on page 12 and he put it on record under my questioning that they intended informing the leadership of the IFP of this action but that was never done.