MR PHOSA
I must - two things, I must get the evidence from him, secondly I must give him the opportunity.  I may be wrong - yes.
	Now Mr Nieuwoudt, I think I stopped at the point where - I got the impression you were about to concede this, namely that indeed you are concerned about the consequences that might befall you if you were to be convicted for killing these two persons?  Now I think that's logical, others have admitted it.