TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  I don't know.  It's really difficult for me to find a job, because I'm not educated. Even if you can try and make things, but if you aren't educated it's really difficult.  I'm staying at home and I'm doing nothing and I'm relying on this grant and it's really difficult for me to find a job.  Some people who are educated don't even find a job, so for me it's even worse.  I'm still ... (inaudible).