MR PRETORIUS
The evidence was that he was on the ground in front of him.  Thank you Mr Chairman.
	Mr Kruser, I will then repeat my statement.  Do you accept then that if you cannot even give evidence or testify to the fact that Mr Eddie Khumalo, who was on the ground in front of you in a position where you even could see him, shot or fired shots with an AK47?  One cannot place any value on your evidence that shots emanated from the crowd.