MR COETZEE
(Cont)    Thank you Mr Chairperson.   Just before we get to the recruitment of Aitchison, we heard from various witnesses about the security that was upheld concerning conscious and unconscious members and that there were also a very strong need to know basis, or need to know nothing basis, that these people were dealt with in that way.  If you can just possibly place in context, what was your knowledge with regards to other members in the CCB and how it happened that you got to know from Staal Burger, Chap Maree, you knew about Calla Botha's involvement and then also Slang's involvement.  If you can just give us a bit of background how you got to know about this.