CHAIRPERSON
Oh yes, alright.
MR MAKHURA
"I later learnt from Wellington Fokazi that he wanted to take along this Johannes Nxala, away from Sebenzile.  So for us to go back, the two or us to the car again to proceed to Natal.
	But before that can happen it seemed as if the car came to look for us.  I heard AK47 gunshots.  I was a little bit far away from the incident of the shooting of the police.  Then since I heard the shots of the AK47, I said to the others: "Look let us proceed to the township, there seemed to be trouble there."  I know when I hear AK47 gunshots trouble was there and I knew it was the people I was travelling with who were shooting.
	I want to make it clear to the Committee that one of an outstanding order from Polla Park was that at no stage was anybody from the Security Forces or whoever to disarm us or to take weapons from us, we were to shoot out our way.
	Then we proceeded towards the black township of Bohlokong. 
...(intervention)