CHAIRPERSON
Yes thank you, Mr Rautenbach.  Are there any other comments on the note which has been furnished to us as well and which the Panel hasn't really read, and which we accepted was an aide memoir really, in a sense, but obviously the concerns that Mr Rautenbach raised are genuine concerns and I assume that Advocate Hattingh, you would be alive to those things.  I mean we don't want to hear legal argument and of course I don't need to talk to you about leading questions.