MR NEMANE
Yes I now remember, it was specifically regarding Mr Venter.  You were saying that Mr Venter was a police informer and it appeared to me it was being suggested to you that Mr Venter was in fact employed by the Railways, and what this - has prompted me to ask further is the fact that Mr Venter was employed with the South African Railways, incompatible with him having been an informer of the police at the same time.