MS MTANGA
Thank you Chairperson.  Chairperson, before I go on with my questions, I just want to indicate that I have consulted with the Mbata family, that is the next-of-kin of Mr Mbata who died in this incident.  I have also Mr Molepi and Mr Moameye who were the colleagues of Mr Mbata and who were present at the time of this incident.  The third person, Mr Maglogwane, or he was a sergeant at the time, he was notified and a notice was faxed to him.  He has not attended the hearing, we don't know what his reasons are.
	The position of the victims is that they are not opposing this application.  However, they have requested me to ask questions for clarification.