PIETER JAKOBUS GOUWS
Yes, Chairman, this is rather easy to answer because most of the farm houses have been rather well protected with alarm systems, not only within the house - also outside lights, also barbed wire fences, dogs, etc - and so in the normal criminal, to my mind that would frighten away any normal criminal, but over and beyond that some of these systems have been if I can call it - circumvented - infiltrated, been passed by in a way that it must have taken some expertise or at least a study of what was going on or some time being spent on the study of the outlay and how to infiltrate the house.  It was not a question of just dropping in, wanting to steal something and you know, find yourself that there is barbed wire or something like that and then you cut a hole in the fence.  In other words, the defence lines if I can call it this way, that they penetrated were of such a nature that normal criminals wouldn't easily be able to handle that.