UNKNOWN
Well, in the first place I already knew of a 
cross-border operation which was to take place.  I don't 
know what they would have done with me, but they could have 
eliminated me, because perhaps I had become a risk through 
knowing too much or they could have transferred me. But I 
would have been worked out of Vlakplaas. 
	If I can describe it like this  such as a platoon 
which had to march, and if you take out the marker or a 
specific person then the platoon is no longer functional, it 
doesn't have sufficient people.  So I just went along with 
the stream.
	I personally would not have shot an innocent child 
there, but as I have already testified, I didn't go into the 
dwelling house. I was just securing the area around the 
house.  I would have gone along in a group context, as I 
have already said.
	I still have a problem with this operation, I think 
about the children who were shot, and I don't live 
comfortably with this fact. 
	If I could put it this way; it won't comfort me in any 
way, but at that time I tried to deal with this, and I told 
myself that the Defence Force did aerial raids across the 
borders, also on foot, and there were other operations as 
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