ISRAEL HLONGWANE
Yes.  Nearby the stairs, the double storied house at Madlala's, there's a boy, Zekele Langa, was staying on that row and there was a boy at Las Vegas who was busy talking there and then that boy was problematic on that line and then we went, we went to pour petrol, myself and Zekele and then we just passed that place and we didn't see anyone during the day and the afternoon.  The very same day, we went back with Teleweni and when we arrived there we found one gentleman not of our age and another lady.  They didn't want to open and we were asking them to open but they didn't.  Ngovele then was wearing size eleven in shoes.  Even how tough and how strong that door is he would just kick it once and it would open.  I knocked on the window but when we entered all the lights in the house were on.  When I knocked, all the lights went off, when I knocked they kept quiet and then I went at the back and then I knocked again and they were quiet and Ngovele went back, kicked the door and it opened and then we stood there.  I went in and then they followed me.  I went on the stairs, stood on the passage and they entered all the rooms, checking or searching under the beds, everywhere and they didn't find this person and we came back and talked with this gentleman and then while he was asked and then he said nothing and Zekele Langa stabbed this man.  We were just standing and then we went.