CHAIRPERSON
Yes but sometimes the lack of education does not in any way affect the lack of intelligence.  A person might be uneducated by highly intelligent.  I think there's many many people who are uneducated that are more intelligent than any of us in this room here, they just haven't been given the opportunity.  But I take your point.  We understand that they're uneducated in the sense that they might not be able to read or write, they're not literate, but it doesn't affect their intelligence at all, they might be highly intelligent.