MR VISSER
He was involved in a motorcar collision on the 20th of July 1988.  He was officially suspended from the police on the 23rd of January 1989.  Mr Venter's murder took place on the 3rd of February 1989.  He was arrested - I'm not quite sure, I'm speaking from recollection, the 8th, 9th or 10th of February 1989 and he's been in prison ever since.  I must apologise if there's anything that I've told you now that may prove to be wrong.  I'm speaking from recollection but I'm reasonably certain Mr Chairman, that those are the accurate dates.