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If I might then return to page 34 of the Heads in the middle of the page where I really made the point that all we have heard here is that the CCB did not believe in using non-violent methods and we respectfully submit that one cannot satisfy the test of proportionality by merely saying without further ado that because we only believe in the use of violent and unlawful methods, these were the only methods available to us and we say that this is really what the applicant's version boils down to say.  The conclusion that we must draw from the modus operandi and its interaction or the lack thereof with other State apparatus is the following.