MR MAPOMA
I'm asking these questions because - Chairperson, I'm sorry, perhaps this question may not be proper but unfortunately I missed this to canvass with Mr Fokazi.  In page 8 and page number 11 of the paginated bundle there is correspondence where Mr Fokazi says, on page 8, paragraph 2
"On our way to Bethlehem we were confronted by police who stopped us to search us.  We then opened fire on them as a result of this."
Then on page 11, on the 1st paragraph there on that page he goes on to say:
"On our way we were stopped by the police who demanded to search our car and we refused to be searched since this was clearly an obstruction of our objective."
These two, Chairperson, to a certain extent may, I would like to get ...(intervention)