MR LAX
We'd be very grateful.
MR GWAMANDA
"It was at that time when these groups of boys were being called into the area.  I had some other weapons in my possession, like the 38 and 7.65.  As I was sitting at home Cele came to me and he requested that I should give him the 38 and the 7.65 on the instruction of Mr Mfayela.  These guns he would take to Olsdindesweni to protect the IFP.  I was surprised because Cele did not know about these guns.  I therefore believed that he had indeed been sent by Mfayela, and I gave him the guns and he left.
	One day when I was at Mr Mfayela's house, the community of Ndwedwe knows that I would be picked up by Mr Mfayela himself of his son Simo.  He would pick me up in a white van.  The taxi owners in Ndwedwe know about this van.  The people of Somkomo also know about this van because it used to terrorise them a lot.  
	I gave him the guns and I was surprised when Mr Mfayela asked me about these guns later and I told him what had happened and he said he doesn't remember having sent him.  There was a meeting at Mzukulyo in November ..."
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Please excuse me, I just want to check the dates.
"It was on the 27th of November 1993.  That's when there was an IFP meeting at Mzululyo. I was also present at that meeting.  There was somebody called Zulaki Mbambo who was an ANC member who had fled the Tembisweni area because of the violence and he hidden or he was hiding at my house.  I was his uncle.  I told him that he shouldn't let it be known that he is an ANC member.
	He stayed at my house.  Right now he resides at an informal settlement at Pietermaritzburg.  I was with Zulaki at that meeting.  I had an AK47 with which I had removed from Mr Mfayela's house ..."
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