TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Yes, which - I loaded them off at the shop, which is a short distance from the house.  I am in this position now that I've been as honest as possible with the Commission.  I have got nothing to lose.  It would have been far easier for me to explain my presence at the house had I gone with them to this Commission.  I don't want to withhold any information, I don't want to be seen to be withholding information, and I said to my advocate that if it stands between me having to spend 30 years in prison or saying that I was at the house I am not able to do it, because I wasn't there.  So I have this bit of a problem.  But I don't want to be - the judgment and the decision that's been made in the judgment, I don't want it to become the issue in this whole case.  I wanted to come and explain the background and the circumstances and the situation we were in at the time, and how these things came about, things that were not explained at the trial, and was not explained fully, and the information that I withheld because of my blind loyalty and my blind stupidity at the time.