MR BERGER
You see because the document from 141 to 143 is quite a detailed document and it has information which is peculiar to you and to no one else.  For example what is written on page 141 and on other pages, 142 and 143.  So what I'm suggesting to you, Mr Mkwanazi, is that you and Advocate Strydom and Mr Frederick were able to converse quite easily for them to be able to get this statement down from you, that there was no problem with communication at all?