ANDRIES STEPHANUS KRIEL
If you can remember correctly Chairperson, I said that the killing of people was a side issue, meaning it is a side issue to kill people, it is another task force.  That is what I meant by that.
	It was not, I was not involved with that, I was only involved with the planting of bombs, that is what I meant to say but I can assure you and I want to put it quite clearly, that they did plan to kill people, and we had consensus on that.  It was not a picnic.
	Now we are going to go and play with people, it is definitely not the case.