ADV MOTATA
Mr Van der Berg, let's look at this in perspective.  The video footage only relates the incident or the applicant shooting the then occupants of the Mercedes.  It does not give us a picture of what obtained within Bophuthatswana, does it?  I don't think it does, it just relates to an incident, and we have evidence before us that I am reluctant to use this word, mayhem in Bophuthatswana and we suddenly say no, no, no, in relation to the Mercedes Benz, the 20 minutes that lapsed, therefore the war had stopped.  Can we really say that, in reality, can we really say that because it doesn't show us the whole of Bophuthatswana, what happened here, it doesn't, does it?