MR LAMEY
(cont)
	Thank you, Mr Chairman.  
	Mr De Kock, in Mr Snyman's application he says that you mentioned it at Vlakplaas, when you gave the orders, that Mr Nieuwoudt would later provide more details regarding this incident, that they would be involved. I specifically refer to page 68(f) of his application in which he says Maj De Kock mentioned that Deon - referring to Nieuwoudt - would tell us everything later on.  Was it possible that you could have said that?