CHAIRPERSON
Chairperson I must admit that it is a double-edged sword when I say that there was no political objective, and if I make the argument that the probabilities are what I've just argued, then it cannot then be said that there was no political objective.  I concede that readily.  But I must respectfully say, Chairperson, that I, the submission that I make, that having regard to the fact of the evidence that we have, having regard to the fact, it is not my function sitting here to make a case for the applicant.