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Ja, because most of them are the PAC's and the one man there told me that he had last seen Williams in Lesotho. He knows about Williams and we said we heard that Williams had been killed and he said he hadn't yet heard that, but then he went to a different room and he stayed for a long time speaking on the phone and when he came back he took our phone numbers and addresses and told us to go home,  he would contact us later and we waited.
He never called us - he never  contacted us and that is when I realised that I must ask for help from some other quarters - and I went to the Red Cross and asked them for help in finding my son.  The Red Cross tried various things, also tried to investigate but to no avail.  And that's when we met Tsidiso  - Tsidiso he was the one who went to Lesotho and reported back to us.  And he then heard that they were in Tanzania.  He went to a lot of trouble, he went to Johannesburg as well - he went to the offices in an effort to find out what had happened to my son.
And then Fikele July  - Fikele July had said he had seen him but that the offices were closed at that particular time and that he would go back on Saturday but that never happened.