GIDEON JOHANNES NIEUWOUDT
I think Mr Chairperson, there were many requests from my commanders but I did not do so personally and where would we be able to find people to fulfil this task?  I don't think at that stage there were any people who wished to join the police, particularly not the security branch because they were regarded as collaborators of the White regime.
	So you have to look at the circumstances that created the problems, these were all factors that created problems in the policing function of the police.