MR MBANDAZAYO
Just to conclude, Mr Chairman, just on that point.  Mr Chairman, I don't want to speculate and do whatever, what will have been the reason of Hladi coming up with this.  I don't want to say he was lying.  We would have the benefit if he was here to ask him certain things.  Maybe we would have got a clear picture, but what I want to say, Mr Chairman, if there was an allegation that he is an informer, definitely at that stage nobody would feel comfortable with that.  One would easily - everybody denied even though some were informers, though I don't have evidence, will deny that he's an informer, would come up with anything.
	I'm not trying to cast any aspersion on him because he's not here but I'm just trying to widen - that's why I didn't want to go to that length.  But there may be other reason why he came up with that, because he was said informer, he wanted to tell these guys that, "Look, there's nothing like that.  These guys only wanted to rob me and they robbed me of this".  
	And one wonders sometimes whether in those circumstances where you go and rob when you don't know how much are you going to get and go to somebody in his house who's drinking, that in any event, if somebody can just go there drinking just to go and rob your R100,00 and just for that specific people.  That's why, Mr Chairman, there are many questions on this aspect, but as I indicated that I want the Committee to take the whole incident in totality when they come to the stage of deciding this matter.