MR DEHAL
Mr Chairperson, insofar as I am concerned on this matter, I could start at any time, early preferably, but I have one problem and that relates to the next matter.  In the next matter, Mafu's, we have never seen the applicant.  I am appointed to represent him, I have some assistance seated at the back here, we've been endeavouring to consult with him, he's under warder guard, that's Westville Prison warder guard, so that exacerbates the problem.  If I may be give some time to dictate his statement later tonight and have it typed tomorrow, I daresay I think I'll be here by ten, at the latest ten thirty with his statement, but I have no reason to be delayed in this matter, only in that Mafu's matter.