MR TERREBLANCHE
Honourable Chairperson, I was busy to say and I hope this will satisfy you, that he decided there when he was confronted by the people, I now support the other side.  That is where he made his decision.  I now become part of them, that is true.  That because of the fact that he went to the people, but he said it was like this and I've got a problem with this.  I wanted to protect my people when the shots were fired.
	He did not shoot back immediately, he later fired shots at this vehicle, he wanted to protect his people, but he also said that he had two choices.  The people forced him and that comes out of his statements.
	They even wanted to take his rifle and he said he will not give it, he will protect them himself.  He did not have a choice, so he stood with his people and I accept that, that he then stood with the people who were threatened by the AWB and I accept his evidence.  It is true, but it was not politically.
	The AWB according to him, shot or fired at the people and he went to go and protect the people and then afterwards he fell next to the road, and he said a vehicle passed him and he said that he fired shots at this vehicle and then the AWB is gone.  Then he went back to the people in order to protect his people there as a policeman, as a soldier, not as a peace or Justice of Peace, but someone who takes decisions about life and death, then he goes back and go and kill these people in order to protect his people and if you talk about people, these are the people who were standing there.
	Now the question is how can it ever be politically motivated to - when you kill or shoot at a body and kill other people in order to further your political case?  I did say that I do not think that the ANC would like to reconcile themselves with such a deed.  I do not think they would like to take responsibility for it.
	He furthermore say because he heard the statements that were made by the learned lawyer for the applicant, statements that say that it brought about change, it made that the AWB  and rightwing were halted.  It was described by his legal adviser, it was in the media, he even said that some people congratulated him, that he was a good soldier and then he continues to say that he killed these people because he wanted to help his people, and the impression was created by the applicant's legal advisor, that he had it in his head or mind, that if he kills these people, he will prevent or stop the shooting.
	The reality Mr Chairperson, is that the AWB was or fortunately the AWB had passed this scene, the AWB was not even in Bophuthatswana when the media showed this terrible scene to the world.  The AWB was fortunately gone, otherwise that deed ...