GEORGE BIZOS
Yes.
	Now in relation to:
"How the counter-revolutionary war should be fought"
there are two paragraphs that I want to read to you and I want you to tell us whether this was in accordance with the learning and culture of the security forces, including the security police.  Paragraph (e) on page five - the full document is available if it's wanted Mr Chairman.
"The inescapable conclusion is that the overall responsibility should stay with the civilian power at every possible level"
and read that together with paragraph (e) on the next page, page 27:
"judiciously used forceful persuasion imposed upon a group, will be very tempting when government troops are trying to break the hold insurgents have in areas controlled by them but the eventual psychological effect of leniency as applied so successfully ...[indistinct] must be weighed very carefully against the immediate apparent advantages of force before it is used.  This indicates that the use of terrorism by government forces must be decided upon at the highest level and must be so applied as to avoid it boomeranging"
Now, is what you planned and was executed against Mr Goniwe and his colleagues a form of terrorism by the government?