MR HEWIT
Thank you Mr Chairperson.
	Firstly no, it was not canvassed yesterday. That primarily what was canvassed yesterday was the details of incidents and whether the, I am sure this will be explained in due course, but whether the applicants knew about this incident or that incident or the other one and so on. That is the kind of thing that was canvassed. There was a time constraint, the prisoners had to go back to prison and so on. And the request then came subsequently after the meeting had adjourned. 
	But the problem is we have not heard Mr Luthuli own the process and accept responsibility. And what I am suggesting is not that he even gives evidence on oath but that he merely makes a statement here. What I anticipate is something really brief. This is a request that has come through the victims. I am sure my learned friend Mr Ngubane and indeed Advocate Mpshe will back me up. I am loathed that we spend more time debating whether to do something which will take less time than the debate.