MR BERGER
And Chairperson, so that I don't go wider than I intend to, not all the residents of Boipatong were ANC members or ANC supporters or ANC sympathisers, there were ANC members and supporters and sympathisers in Boipatong.  There were ANC structures in Boipatong and there was animosity between ANC members in Boipatong and IFP members in Kwamadala.  That is not in dispute.