MR MBANDAZAYO
Thank you.  Mr Chairperson, I'll proceed to read the affidavit.
"I, the undersigned, Sonnyboy Johannes Sibiya, do hereby make an oath and say that I am the applicant in this instant.  The facts to which I depose are true and correct and within my personal knowledge, unless the context states otherwise.  I was born on the 25th March 1965 in Bethal, Emzinoni Township and unmarried, and have three children.  Two of them staying with their mothers, one is staying with my family.  I have two sisters, a mother and father and I left school in 1988.  I joined the PAC through Azania in 1985 and my sole aim to join the PAC was to fight settler colonisation and fight for the return of our land from those who stole it from our forefathers through force of arms.  In early 1991 I joined the task force of the PAC which its duties was to defend the organisation when under attack, and also used as a pool for APLA operations when manpower is needed by APLA.  After joining the task force in 1991 I was sent to Umtata, Transkei for basic military training and I was trained in handling of arms and explosives for about four months.  After completing my basic military training I went to Efolweni in KwaZulu-Natal.  I stayed there for about a month and went back to Emzinoni Township per car.  My activities during this time as part of my deployment was to form a task force and the purpose of the task force was to defend the homes and the members of the PAC.  At the time at Bethal there was a political conflict between ANC and PAC.  This resulted in members of the PAC being chased away and their houses burnt down.  Some of them were killed.  Because of the problem we were facing, I decided to contact the director of operations and I did not manage to get him, but I talked to Comrade Mandla and I explained to him the situation.  He told me that we must identify the culprits and attack them, and they will not attack us again.  On the 15th of October 1992 we went out at night in search of these ANC ring leaders, but without any success.  It was myself armed with .38 Special, Sipho armed with Chinese stick grenade and also Thulani also armed with Chinese stick grenade.  On the 17th October 1992 I went out between 3 o'clock and five 5 o'clock in search of these ANC ring leaders and after an hour I was fortunately to find them.  It was the deceased and another one.  I called them, but only one came and it was the deceased.  The other entered into a house.  I asked the deceased to call the other one because I wanted to speak to both of them.  He told me to speak to him only.  I told him that they must stop attacking the PAC members.  He told me that there is only one organisation which is going to exist in Bethal and it is the ANC.  He also told me that I must leave Bethal if I do not want to die as only one organisation is going to exist there.  As I was armed with .38 Special I shot him about two times and I left.  I did not sleep at home on the day of the incident.  I came back on the 18th and I was told that the police are looking for me.  My uncle accompanied me to the police station and the police told me to come the following day as they were not aware that they were looking for me.  On the 19th I went back to the police station and I was arrested and locked in.  On the 25th February 1994 I was convicted of murder and sentenced to fifteen (15) years' imprisonment.  I respectfully submit that my application complies with the requirements of the Act and that I have made full and proper disclosure of my involvement in this incident."
	Mr Chairman, I will just go back after I've read it, just a certain paragraph to ask him to clarify certain portion.  I will start with paragraph 6, Mr Chairman.
"After joining the task force in 1991 I was sent to Umtata, Transkei for basic military training in handling of arms and explosive for about four months."
	Can you tell the Committee where were you trained in Transkei?  Exactly in which place were you trained there?