MR VISSER
Yes.  You see, at the top of the page, paragraph 48, well according to what you've now put to Mr Botha, Mr Chairman and what I heard Mr Lax say, perhaps what I saw as a possible contradiction may not be one, because the only reference there is again to a "Hoofweg".  Perhaps that's not necessary to draw your attention then specifically to that.  Maybe I misunderstood this to be two different places so perhaps that is what Commissioner Lax was trying to tell me when I didn't understand.
	Chairperson, yes, well then I can leave that, yes.  The last reference Mr Chairman, for your convenience perhaps is the reference, cross-reference to Mr Jimmy Mbane and perhaps also for the information, Mr Samuel, bundle 1 volume 1, page 128 Mr Chairman, he sets out what I've already put to Mr Botha when I referred to bundle 2 page 130 to page 131, it's simply a cross-reference.  This is the typed version where I previously referred at page 130 I believe it was, but I may be mistaken.  No it wasn't.