MR LAX
Perhaps what you could do for us in due course, during the course of today and tomorrow perhaps, let's hope we don't get to tomorrow, but if we have to we have to, is find for me the sections in his evidence where the distinction between, where he says anything other than that: "Webb gave me this".   Well actually, I might be wrong and it's possible that I just thought that he gave it to me, rather than actually gave it to me".  If there's any concession to that effect in his evidence, that would help us, at least it might back up the secondary argument, the alternative argument that you're using.  And if you could refer us to those aspects, if there is such evidence, then obviously that would be helpful.