MR LALLA
Yes.  I came here with the intention of not asking any questions and prior to my meeting I went to meet the applicants themselves and I wish them well.  Why am I saying this, why am I doing this?  Is it I must search for the truth and I think the truth around what took place and what were the events is important because I believe that Mr Botha over here is trying an impression or trying to create division in terms of what he regards as cooperation and he tortures, agent and he kills, so I'm in a bit of a dilemma.  Initially I came here but with no sense of hatred, no sense of anger and I felt that he is continuously throwing a spanner in the works to create division.  I'm going to ask him a few questions.
	Mr Botha, how many days was I in the country before I was arrested?