CHAIRPERSON
Thank you Mr de Klerk.  We will reserve our decision in this matter.  I'd like to thank Mr Mpshe and Mr de Klerk for assisting us in this matter and a decision will be handed down as soon as possible.  Mr Mpshe, I think with regard to the list of the victims, we have to specify the victims.  You said that you had difficulty or the TRC had difficulty in tracing the deceased family but if we could nevertheless have all the information relating to the victims name and address etc if possible.