MR LAX
(Inaudible) ... understand that.  I mean places like hospitals.  We've heard stories from other places where hospitals were not secure even for people who were injured and damaged.  Somehow there was connivance between certain political organisations and people in hospitals and the police.  Now, you've mentioned a number of policemen.  The first one you spoke of is a person called Haripersad, and you've told us that he was the station commander at Isipingo Police Station.  