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Ja.  I know Mr Chair, I know exactly what you are referring to, it is a test that Jean Ragool failed.  She came to me many times as a peace worker or somebody belonging to Nim collecting information about violence, and
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I assisted her without the knowledge of Brigadier Gqozo because if you mentioned a few names of Brigadier Gqozo he would turn red.  One of them was Andrew Trench, Louise Flanagan, Jean Ragool(?).  We had a very informal chat and what I mentioned to her is that I never broke my old friendships to specific people and what was eventually published in the newspapers were a story, which I believe made her a few rand, it was sensational that I was still connected to the South African Defence Force.  I invite anybody to go and trace any record anywhere and in future this Truth Commission will sit for months, years maybe and the truth will come out.  I was not connected in any way.  I never received a cent of money from the South African Defence Force after I left in 1991.