CARL CASTELING BOTHA
My question to Brigadier Engelbrecht was, how soon will you be able to get me out of here and he remarked that I should keep quiet but they would do what they could, that it wouldn't take longer than six months, if I recall correctly.  Six months in there would be like 16 years, and I told him that there was no way that I could stay there for that time.  So I indicated that I would keep quiet until I couldn't do so anymore, and the things that I had spoken about were already known.  By nature of the situation I had to give detail in order to achieve my release.