MR VISSER
That is what I am putting to the witness, Mr Chairman.  He says he does not know whether he was there.  With all due respect, Mr Chairman, it is not an unreasonable question.  The man says he does not know now, suddenly, whether Ramosoeu was there or not.  He says his car was there and I am saying to him, but you asked Mamome what Ramosoeu was doing there and that question could only have been based on the assumption that Ramosoeu was.