ADV DE JAGER
And what the Advocate is putting to you is that 
they were threatening to do just that.  If I understand it correctly, 
they virtually blackmailed you and said to you just you dare to 
prosecute me and I will expose everything, they were using that to 
stop you from prosecuting them for fraud.  If I may use an example, 
it is exactly what Nofamela did later on?