TIKAPELA JOHANNES MBELO
I can explain to that.  The guy came to me and I start from the beginning when I start to meet the guy.  The man came with his hands up and the man said in Xhosa, I can take you to where the others are and there was a White Sergeant, since he was my senior and I was a Black guy, I, always you had to take orders, we even take orders from a Lance Sergeant who does not have even, who does not even have, is a Full Sergeant.  So, he told me, "skiet die man", so I shot the man.  Then he told me, "jy skiet kak".  He took a R1, he shot the man through the stomach and I think the bullet came through here.