ADV DE JAGER
Let's accept that for a moment that there weren't IFP attacks on the ANC people, but that could be something as far as disclosure is concerned, but it wouldn't reflect on the objective or the political motive of the other attacker.  Even if there were no IFP attacks, there might have been ANC attacks and according to the Act we're not looking whether there were in this particular instance attacks vice versa, there was a conflict situation and I think that's accepted by both parties.  So it would - in the sense that it would relate to the motive of the applicant, that wouldn't make a difference, but it could make a difference as far as disclosure is concerned.  Is that your point?