MR MAKHAWULA
There are a lot of things that happened to me sir.  Because one day I was at home and I heard a toyi-toyi coming towards me house and I heard that I was going to be killed.
 I stayed there waiting.  When the toyi-toyi arrived in front of my house others passed and others went back.  But after a while I finally stopped them because they were fighting.  Initially they came to kill me, but I ended up trying to stop them because they were fighting amongst children.
 That is one of the issues.  But before this one there were rumours that I was going to be killed.  I heard that while I was in Gauteng and when I heard this, I came back.  Fortunately there was a kombi where Mrs Goniwe, Mrs Xalata were in the kombi and I came back with them.
 When I arrived here, those rumours were true and after that there was this toyi-toyi.  There was another attempt, two toyi-toyi's, but they were unsuccessful.
CRADOCK HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE
14 M MAKHAWULA