ADV DU PLESSIS
In respect of Mr Visser's clients, I can place on record that most of them were 
represented by Mr Wagner, we did not approach them to help us at that stage or before this hearing, but 
what I want to emphasise again is that we did give evidence and it is not simply just an argument, it was 
evidence by Brigadier Cronje and Captain Hechter as far as I can recall that their superiors of that time, and 
specifically of the National Party has not assisted the applicants, has not offered the applicants any 
assistance whatsoever. I still stand by the view that we have difficulty and had difficulty finding witnesses 
pertaining to certain aspects and it was in that context that I addressed the argument to you.
	The second point I want to make in this regard is that we are grateful for the assistance of General 
van der Merwe to our clients - who is a client of Mr Visser and Mr Wagner. He graciously agreed to assist 
the applicants and the Committee at the time when we started with these hearings.
PRETORIA HEARING	AMNESTY/