MR PRINSLOO
Mr Chairman, we've reached the stage now - up to the last witness, there's only one problem we have and that is with Mr Arthur Kemp.  We are informed - and that's always been the position, that he's in England and we can't get him here, so if the Committee wishes to call him at some stage but it's not an indication that we don't want to call him and we're not - but if it's necessary to call him, we'll call him but his evidence is on record as far as the trial is concerned, so we have the difficulty that he's in England Mr Chairman and we havn't got the funds to bring him here, that's another problem.