MR KNOETZE
He also answered that the previous time.  I refer you again to paragraph 6, page 93, you've read it, it says there, or you don't mention there that he took the weapon.   You say there that Phil Klopper gave the weapons to you and Martin van der Schyff, and that same evidence I read to you from Phil Kloppers' evidence in front of this committee and as well as Deon Martins and Meiring's, every time it was said it was given to him, not to someone else, and then by mistake or by other means he got hold of it.   Can you see that?