MR KRUSE
I want to put to him, the way, the nature of the Intelligence Unit and I am referring to the way it operates, that to keep the trust of all members, you will have a small circle and the six people you operated with in that small circle, I think would have shared all the information in terms of that, for you to be, there is no way you could have been used to a level of torture, and not being given any other information.
I just find this very difficult.  And you know how it works in the police, what you do in Cape Town, they know in Pretoria.  When you torture people today, tomorrow it is known in Pretoria, that is how the circle works within the Security network.  But you were a Warrant Officer at that stage, which was fairly senior, part of a very small confinement and you don't know anything that happened in that Unit?	I find it very strange you know.