MR WAGENAAR
Yes they have.  Mr Chairman I have also drawn, if you 
regard the contents of that, 31, I'm sorry 31, the contents of that as of doubtful 
assistance to you, well then of course you are free to ignore it but the purpose 
of this document was to approach the evidence of both Mr Ngo and Mr 
Motsomai from a point of view of the perpetrators Mr Chairman, so that when 
you deliberate on the issues at the end of the day, we felt Mr Chairman that you 
would have a summary from both points of view and we hope that that will be 
of assistance, not only to you but also to our learned friend.
	While I have the floor so to speak Mr Chairman and perhaps to continue 
with a few other household matters, at the last occasion when we adjourned we 
gave an undertaking that we would attempt to find the personal file on Mr Ngo. 
 We are told Mr Chairman that there are more than one file but we've been able 
to locate one of them.  That file has been gone through by myself and the 
documents which may be of interest to the Committee from the point of view of 
its enquiries, I have photocopied Mr Chairman and I place them before you.  
You are welcome to go through the file of course yourself, it's a fairly bulky 
file, and my learned friend is also of course very welcome to do so.  I couldn't 
find any documents other than the ones which we've got before you now, which 
we'll hand to you now, which are vaguely relevant to your enquiry Mr 
Chairman, and perhaps we could hand that up for your assistance as well.
	What we've done Mr Chairman, because it deals with the same issue as 
did Exhibit P27 at the last hearing, we have numbered them P27.1/2/11 so that 
they're all in the same area in your exhibit file Mr Chairman perhaps lastly as I 
promised, we have drafted just for you to know where we are more or less, we 
have drafted an update on the exhibit list numbers which we also hand to you 
Mr Chairman.  And then very lastly Mr Chairman, there was some, perhaps 
criticism is a strong word, but there were some doubts expressed by the 
honourable Committee members at the last hearing about a computer print out 
reflecting as is purported to do the leave of Mr Erasmus. What we've been able 
to do is to find an additional document which we beg leave to hand in under 
cover of an affidavit which actually sets out an extract from his leave file Mr 
Chairman...(intervention)