MR KEMP
Mr Chairman, Kemp on behalf of the applicants Kok and Du Toit, one aspect.  It arises from the question put by the Commission members.  You were asked what you would have done if somebody did not carry out an instruction and you said that you were speculating.
	Is it correct to say that after 20 years of service as a Security Policeman, you never experienced a situation with circumstances like this, where they refused to carry out an instruction?