MRS GCABASHE
 Okay, let's just try to concentrate on one aspect.  You said this started when your husband was still alive, as well as the chief's father.  The second thing we would like to clarify is your statement combines what happened to Ntombikanina's husband.  You remember relating to us that Ntombikanina Mthetwa - Simon had visited the Mthetwa family.  Then you said - when Ntombikanina spoke yesterday she said there was a policeman called Steyn.  