GERRIT NICHOLAS ERASMUS
As I said yesterday and also in the background that I sketched as to how I grew up, the fact that I grew up in a Christian democratic home - after that I followed a long career in the South African police and there were certain influences at work, I was influenced by certain courses for instance which I did and at a later stage when the struggle actually escalated into a war, the struggle became more and more intense and the pressure also increased - that is pressure from politicians, from our own head office and pressure exerted by the already established security system.
	This was pressure was aimed at achieving more purposeful action.  There was also pressure from the surroundings and society because I think that the people who lived here could also - in respect of the activities of the youth and children who for instance became totally out of control, that that became a problem for society and the parents lost control over their children and we who had to perform this task experienced pressure.  And that task was to keep the Government of the day in power.
	Now, the norms and structures which were important to us as White South Africans, to keep that in place - that created certain grey areas as far as the policemen's work is concerned and more specifically, security policemen.  I, or any of my colleagues did not act for personal benefit or gain, that was not my motive.  We did what we did exclusively to safeguard the Government of the day and to keep them in power.