UNKNOWN
Mr Chairperson I thank you for the opportunity that my colleague Mr Leleki is here to-day before the Truth and Reconciliation Commission to come and give evidence of what happened.  On this particular day the tenth if I'm not mistaken was not the first time that I met him.  I used to meet him previously.  An appointment was made by a lady named Noxhawe for him to come and see me.  This is not the Noxhawe working for the Truth Commission.  After a while he came to me on this particular day.  On the first day Noxhawe came with a young man by the name of Subu from Umlahzi when they introduced themselves to me.  Leleki also introduced himself.