CHAIRPERSON
There's just one point which I must make reference to before we adjourn.  Mr Berger raised or questioned the right of the victim to make an unsworn statement such as the statement made by Mrs Burton.  Our view as a Panel is that the Act does not exclude the right of the victim to make an unsworn statement.  Mr Berger referred us to Section 19.4 of the Act which states inter alia that the victim shall have the right to testify at a hearing and that testify implies giving evidence.  However, it has been practise from the very start of these procedure for victims to make statements, unsworn statements at hearings and this has happened on many, many occasions at many other hearings and also our view is that Section 19.4 does not although it only refers to a victim testifying does not exclude the lesser right to make an unsworn statement particularly when one takes into account the provisions of Section 11 of the Act, that's the Truth and Reconciliation Act, so-called Truth and Reconciliation Act which provides inter alia that victims shall be given the right to present his or her views and submissions.  So we are satisfied that the giving of unsworn statements is not either illegal or improper.