ADV BOSMAN
Mr Meyer, before you continue with the next point, what are your submissions in regard to the consequences of the various assaults?  If my memory serves me correctly, the applicants generally did not admit that the victims were seriously injured with the exception of one which I think was Dr Farisani or Mr Chikororo.  They maintained that the other victims were not seriously injured, do you have any submissions to make in that regard because, I would argue that is indeed a material aspect which they should have disclosed the consequences of the assaults.