KIM TURNER
(Inaudible) ... no father, because some man walked up to his house and killed him.  I haven't explained that totally to her yet, I don't think I will for a long time, but I am not looking forward to actually having to do that to her, to have to tell her who her grandfather was and why he died, and when that time comes I would like very much to be able to tell her who killed him.
It has been 18 years, and I have had the opportunity to do something about the terrible thing that happened to my dad and to my sister and I and to all of us, and I think it was a process of being active, of telling my story, of coming here and making a film about it, of meeting my father's friends, of talking to people about him and hearing from them, about the loss not only I experienced but that South Africa experienced, that process for me was enormously helpful and I think it was only then 15 years after his murder that I really began to - that my present was no long overwhelmed and sabotaged by a painful past.   
And I think that this commission and your willingness to sit and listen to our stories, and the fact that we are here speaking out our pain as you often admonish us to do, really helps enormously.   And I think for me that has been, being able to speak out the pain has enabled me to reconcile with a terrible past.   And to be able to be present and without that trauma overshadowing it.  
And so I think that the process that you are engaged in and that we are all engaged in is a very important one in the reconciliation aspect of it is crucial.   It is therapy in a sense for us to be able to sit here.   
So, I think for me the worse pain has gone away because I have been able to talk it out.   I hope that this is the last time really that I will have to go into it in detail.