KHOZA MGOJO
Mrs Luthuli, good morning.  I want to ask you a few questions.  As Mr Lister said I am out of this area, so you must forgive me my ignorance.  You said that when the trouble started you dated it back to 1981, but the prayer meetings only started in 1986.  But a number of people had died in that period.  Can you tell us how many people you think died during that period, number of young people?   