MR CLAASSEN
Mr Hadebe, if I could just return to the incident you mentioned on the 27th September, the preceding Sunday.  You said that an IFP Induna, Mr Mgababa Nyaki was killed and that there was a meeting held, what exactly happened at this particular meeting?
MR HADEBE
"The death of Mgababa makes us aware that we are being killed and we are getting finished and we should make some plans to also attack the ANC because they were intensively attacking us.  Then we decided to have a plan and we sat down and discussed as to how we were going to attack the ANC.
	At the time when we were discussing this, we sat as a committee and the chairperson was Thokozani Biela.  When discussing this plan to attack the ANC members, because it looked like they were already defeating us when we tried to fight with them head-on or we tried to follow them.  Therefore, we tried to find some other ways where we could find them in a group or in big numbers and attack them.
		Then we agreed that since we know that there are taxis that only carry Inkatha and we also know that there are taxis which carried the ANC members together with the buses, so we decided that maybe we should attack one of their buses so that we can send a message to them to show them that we are also brave and prepared to fight them.
		My involvement in that planning was the planning itself, that the bus should be bombed because if we have to shoot at it, firing at it might not be effective but we need something that is going to destroy everything, and we agreed on that point.
		Therefore, Thokozani Biela who was our chairperson selected two Indunas, saying that they will be responsible with selecting people who were going to carry out that plan, the plan to attack the ANC.   
		The Indunas went aside and discussed this issue amongst themselves.  These two Indunas was Zaccarehia Sipho Mhlongo.  The other one was Thandogwake Ndlovu.  When they came back they said we have people who are going to attack the ANC people.  We have already selected them.  When we leave this meeting we will go and inform them.  That was the final agreement.  And we dispersed.
		On Monday, the date on which the incident took place, I was coming from work and the other people who were not working were at the hostel.  Our chairperson, Thokozani Biela was working in the municipality in the township.  He was unable to go to work.  
		When I came back from work, I found that they were having a meeting.  We stayed there in the meeting until late in the afternoon.  And then those people who were selected to go and attack left us to go and wait for the bus.  The people who were elected were Alfred Boss Mazibuko and Nkosinathi Kanyle, together with Nkosinathi Emmanuel Ndletshe and Mzwaki Myaba.
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