FERDINAND BARNARD
The first that I can recall is that I recruited a person by the name of McQuillan.  If I recall, that was the very first and I think it was in October 1988.  During that time, October 1988, Lafras Luitingh made certain overtures to me regarding recruitment in the organisation.  He also gave me false identity documents, a false passport, a police appointment certificate and it was also during this time that I rented the apartment in Ponti under his instruction under the name van Staden, so my active period began in October and during October I also recruited McQuillan.