MR DIAZ
No that is - sorry, insofar as Zazi Kuzwayo, I represent Mrs Kuzwayo the wife, the surviving spouse.  Her instructions to me is that the applicant has it would appear to her, been reasonably or satisfactorily honest and truthful about his testimony insofar as that murder is concerned.  She does not support his application for amnesty, she does not oppose it either, she would leave the matter in the hands of the Honourable Committee Members.
	Insofar as Mrs Mkhize is concerned, the surviving spouse of the deceased Mkhize, Mrs Mkhize however wishes to testify - would like to confer with me further - has not had proper regard to all the documents before us - would like to confer with me - give me a detailed statement and for that purpose it would appear that I would require much time.  
	I would imagine the first difficulty insofar as her statement is concerned is the fact that she speaks in Zulu, is slow at giving instructions - wants to come to terms with all the things that have been said, is somewhat emotional as well.  If I could beg this Committee's indulgence in seeking an adjournment perhaps to consult with her further to be properly instructed and then to deal with her testimony.
	Insofar as the last family member that I represent is concerned, that is Mr Kuzwayo whose the next of kin of Kushana Kuzwayo, Kushana Kuzwayo being his deceased father, he also is in a position where he would required to consult with me further - would like to deal with the contents of these papers - feels that as the matter stands presently that he would like oppose the application and would like to testify to that effect.
	Mr Chairman and Honourable Committee members, my present position is that insofar as the three clients are concerned, to summarise, the one person does not oppose, does not stand by the application, would follow this Committee's stand.
	Insofar as the other two clients are concerned, they seek this Honourable Committee's indulgence to instruct me properly and further.
	Sorry Mr Chairman, may I just mention this as well, lest it be said that it hadn't been said, the family members of Advocate - Judge Tshabalala are here, they have indicated to me that he is indisposed and they feel that he ought to have been present.  They have spoken to me briefly about the need for them to intervene, they feel that the applicant has not been absolutely honest with all that he has said.  They have not instructed me but it would appear that, that discussion would be necessary as well before they proceed.