GIDEON JOHANNES NIEUWOUDT
No, Mr Chairperson, because this decision had already been made two days prior to or shortly before the elimination of these two persons and I did not directly question them because I had to keep in mind that there was an informer who had closely liaised with Mr Madaka.  And I had to be very careful with regard to all direct questions as far as his activities were concerned, to avoid those because at that stage I didn't see any need because we had already decided we were going to eliminate them.