MR STRYDOM IN REPLY
Oh.  Chairperson, what is also important is her ability to observe because she made certain observations and she said that she saw white people under these circumstances, so I'll have to test her ability and then I'll have to ask her certain questions about other aspects as well just to test that.  That maybe is not a credibility issue, but there's a chance that she can make a bona fide mistake and I must also test that possibility.