J P VAN DEN BERG
On this day we were on the South African side of the border.  We were together and by three o'clock or four o'clock the afternoon, the meeting had not yet taken place.
	We started having doubts as to whether the meeting would materialise. At about five o'clock - or perhaps I should just explain to you now what the surroundings looked like there.  It is mountainous.  We were on a little koppie or hill, five to 800 metres from the river.  That's where we took up our positions.  
	We were well concealed amongst trees and rocks.  At about 16:30, between 16:30 and five o'clock that afternoon that afternoon we heard somebody whistle, and I immediately realised that that was Mabena actually carrying out this arrangement or appointment.  Matthews approached and the donkey cart with Matthews and the person and Mabena stopped at the Botswana side of the river. They then walked to the river bank or maybe just a couple of paces away from the river bank.  They chatted there for a while.
	Matthews came back to the South African side.