ADV SIGODI
Yes, but what the applicant is putting is that we had information from Mr McBride that this place was a place which was regularly patronised by Security personnel and if the victims are disputing that, then put that to him, is it the victims' case that this place was never patronised by Security personnel, thus making it an illegitimate target or we can hear that on that particular day, the victims are saying that there were no Security personnel, we can accept that.  But is it disputed that it was ever patronised, that the applicant or at least Mr McBride had no reasonable basis for putting the bomb there on that day?