ERNEST PHUMUZI SIGASA
Well there are two statements that one has to probably try his utmost to address.  One, we were and are not a racist organisation, if fact we championed the course of non-racialism over the years despite the fact that there have been numerous cases where there have been only blacks were dying.  To that effect if you look at the Botswana raid, Botswana nationalists died innocent and so on, Lesotho, Zimbabwe and so on.  So in many cases in a state of war ...[intervention]