THEMBELANI TANDEKILE XUNDU
Okay.  I'm going to try and answer you now.  You have heard about a person or the testimony to the TRC, by the name of Joe Mamasela.  You have heard about the testimony to the TRC about the deeds of people like Colonel Nieuwoudt.
	You have heard about the agony and the pain and in fact the brutal manner in which the PEBCO 3 was executed.  What do you think of the people who were killed in numbers in night vigils where we have pain in double.  
	People who were in a night vigil, they already have pain and they have gathered around a certain pain and then somebody comes in and they inflict more pain, the list is endless.