CHAIRPERSON
During a certain period and somebody was trying the killing of about four people and the like and despite evidence to try and bring that out as a political killing, Judge Kotze in the end ruled that that was not a political killing and I think that court was always full with farmers and I am just trying to understand how, despite the police's attitude that they don't find any political motivation, despite even finding or a finding by the Supreme court, how the perception could have persisted that these killings were political?