MS THABETE
Briefly Mr Chairman.  Without repeating what my learned colleague has said, regarding the killing of Nhlamvu Mkhize, I also wouldn't have any objections if amnesty is granted in that incident.
	I also would like to put it on record that after consultation with the victim's next of kin in this incident, they also forgive, they told me to pass it through or pass it on to the applicant, that they understand and forgive him for what he did, and also they have no objection towards amnesty being granted.
	Regarding the killing of Mr Sbusiso Mlaba, I submit that I question the political motive in this incident because first of all there was no plan and also there was no intention to kill the deceased and also we don't see how political the offence was, or the act was, and also it is not clearly explained what the political objective was for killing Mr Mlaba, Sbusiso Mlaba.
	Coming to the issue of proportionality, I also would like to say the act committed by the applicant, was not proportional to the objective which was to be achieved.
	More specifically, taking into consideration the fact that the deceased, Mr Sbusiso Mlaba, was 17 years old at that time.  In my view other steps could have been taken.  There were options that could have been taken.
	For one, the 30 year old applicant and his co-perpetrator, Mr Fila Mandla Mthetwa who was 22 years old, they could have come into the room, told the deceased Mr Mlaba, to get out of the room as he was so young, and inexperienced as well.
	Further, I don't see how it is proportional because this was, the area of kwaXemba was an ANC dominated area.  If the applicant and his co-perpetrator could have spoken to the deceased and explained to him why they were killing Mr Mkhize, I don't see why he could not have understood, more especially because he was also an ANC supporter.
	I feel that the action of deciding to kill him, was very much disproportional.  
	Regarding the disclosure, I won't comment on that except to say that I don't see why the Committee members should not rely on the judgement.  After all, there were investigations made, there were witnesses that were called and if the accused himself, gave evidence or testified.  I don't see really why we cannot rely on the judgement, or on the facts of the judgement.
	I also think it gives good guidance to the Committee members as to what actually took place.  That is all I have to say Mr Chairman.