MR VAN ZYL
I was requested to do so, because as I have already testified, as a result of the fact that the then President, PW Botha, then suffered from a heart attack and Mr FW de Klerk had become the new President, our internal projects were all brought to a halt and all funds that were at our disposal, we had to give back to the organisation and this is the reason why I flew up to give him the money back and also to get the powder from him.