MR VAN WYK
Mr Chairman, there's one thing - I don't want to re-examine the witness, I just to place one aspect on record, it is not totally correct to say that this man was not shot and killed with an AK by one of the ANC guards, we will still submit he was shot and killed by an ANC guard, whether from the corner or from the parapet.  The ballistical evidence concerned the fragments, and the fragments ballistically could not positively be connected to a specific AK47, but that does not exclude either of the two AK47s.  I will address you on that aspect too.