THEMBINKOSI HENGE
Sir, it is not easy, it is not easy to say I'm sorry but I felt it's very necessary to say I'm sorry for that.  Actually as I've said, I felt what that operation did to them, that is why I say with my greatest - I don't know how to put it, I feel it in my heart to come forward and say I'm really sorry.  And if I didn't feel that I would never have come to this Commission and say I feel that we have to reconcile and go forward.