TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Maybe I can start by saying that a number of times they didn't end up by chopping off my brother.  They also took the rim of a car and broke his legs with it so that the left leg was completely broken with the rim.  On my side maybe at that time - at home I was sleeping in the outbuilding which we called a shack, "umjondolo."  When they opened the door of this shack they saw me, and there were two guys who came in, and they grabbed me and took me out.  When they took me outside their leader said, "We mustn't touch this one.  We will need to necklace him, put a tyre on him."  I got very scared about that.  I realised that things were getting very, very difficult.  I think I thought very fast.  I got very soft and agreed with what was happening, because they said I must go there.  The one who was in front of me was standing almost at the edge, like at the edge of the stage like this.  When I softened my body they agreed with me.  I got such strength, because I completely grabbed myself loose, and it was a huge warrior, and I ran, passed through and in between the legs of the guy who was standing on the edge, and I ran outside.  That's how I escaped.  They shot at me.  There were lots of bullets passing through me, but I don't know how I survived.  I jumped the neighbour's fence and I ran through in between houses until I was outside the following street, there where I met the kombis, which I suspected they were in one of the kombis.  And then I hid a bit until those kombis had passed, and then I continued to run, and jumping the following fences.  I was running in between houses.  I was just avoiding the lights until I was by the shops, where there were four Hippos of the soldiers.  But they also didn't see me, so I hid in between them and I ran up until I had reached my friend's place.  That's where we hid a bit until my brother came, who had come to tell them that something wrong had happened.  When I came back at home - I went back at home after that - I realised they didn't kill my father and my brother only, they had already found him as they had taken him.  The continued and went ahead.  They didn't only come to our house only, as we will also go to - we will hear the Mshengu family, they were also onto the Mshengu family.  And another person was found dead in another street who is not known ... (inaudible - end of Side A, Tape 7) 