EUGENE ALEXANDER DE KOCK
Chairperson, I have never encountered anything like that, that someone would pour such a great tot, you might as well just drink it out of the bottle then.  It might have sounded quite to Mr Fourie, but that is not the way things worked.  And I would rather grant those members of mine two glasses of wine or two beers, than that they stand behind a corner and drink on the sly and then I don't know who I'm dealing with during the shooting.