MOKOTEDI MPSHE
Mr Chairman, the explanation that I can give is that we were delayed today by the Correctional Service Department.  Yesterday at - I made a note somewhere, I'll find it, yesterday at about a quarter past 3, I telephoned the Correctional Services here in Kimberley, I spoke to a certain Mr Visagie and arranged with him that the applicants must be here by 8 o'clock today and he informed me that only one that is Mr Mohase, was already with them but they were expecting Mr Monyake who was to come from Kroonstad and he said he will come and he will make sure that they are here today at 8 o'clock.  I was here Mr Chairman at twenty to eight - I was already waiting for them to arrive, they did not arrive, I telephoned the Correctional Services Department at about five past nine and I was told that they had left at a quarter to nine.  And later on at about twenty past or twenty five past nine, Committee Member Advocate Chris de Jager telephoned them again to find out what could be happening, he spoke to a Mr Britz who is herein and Advocate Chris de Jager was told that the people were still in prison at that time and I drove down to the prison with one of the policemen here and we actually found them still at the jail there and we had to follow them to come down here - the whole delay was caused by the Correctional Services.