JOE MAMASELA
It's not as easy as you say, security policemen of Port Elizabeth go to the airport, they grab somebody in front of, in full view of the people and then they go and kill them and cover it.  It's not as easy as you say because we worked with the security police, particularly the white security policemen.
	They worked with the fear of Biko, always they will say: "We don't want to have another Biko, we don't want to have another Biko".  Even if they assault a detainee they were always afraid of another Biko scene happening.  Even Stanza Bopape, when he died accidentally in their hands at John Vorster, they had dispose of his body and pretend that he escaped because they were afraid of the Biko scenario.  
	So it's not like they way you put it, that they had a free license to kill ...[indistinct] without any fear, they also feared.