PIETER JOHANN VERSTER
Mr Chairperson, there were times when I was away and then he was responsible for the co-ordination and there was a time that I was locked up and then he was the next connection or the link with the Chairperson.  He had his own region, he had his own projects.  We had a shortage of people and then according to this he functioned.  So his functions and his duties were as a link with the Chairperson, but he did not necessarily know the or have to do with the circumstances of every project.