BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
Yes.  Those who are present - no problem, we will start with them if they are willing to give evidence, but you should understand that Mr Brink is here to work.  You understand his duty?
	Yes, Mr Brink is one of the people who have been hired by the TRC and he's paid by the TRC but the TRC is prepared to pay for other lawyers but only if they agree to the amount set by the TRC.  Now, do you agree to be represented by Mr Brink?  Do you want us to adjourn for a few minutes so that you can decide?