MANDLA ENGELANI
I do not want to lie Sir.  I never saw them before, but I only recognised two of them, because they are my neighbours.  I asked one of my neighbour saying that you are also part of this.  He said, yes, I am part of this, because you are a member of AZAPO.  We are fighting against AZAPO and South African Municipality and we are fighting against the Government in Pretoria.  That is what this man said to me.