MR VISSER
Well, while my learned friend is searching - Visser on record Mr Chairman, may I point out that we've had a pre-trial conference in this case with Commissioner de Jager as the Chairperson and certain specific agreements were made relating to documentation and the one at page 189 of the Wagener bundle - that is Volume 3, you will see that it was agreed - I'm sorry, I've given you the wrong page number, Volume 2, page 189, it was specifically agreed that documentation to be used by any interested party would be given by notice one month prior to this hearing and any other documentation would only be allowed on special leave being granted.
	Now the point is here Mr Chairman, we haven't even been offered copies of what my learned friend is now freely handing up to the Commission.  I don't know what he's talking about, I haven't seen any of these papers and there's no application for special leave. And your question to my learned friend is pertinent. How is this relevant to the present case of the amnesty application of these four people here before you?
	With respect Mr Chairman, I don't want to object but there should be some sort of organisation in handing out documents freely to the Commission.