BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
I am sorry to interrupt you.  Mr Gimsbeek I see this document forms part of our pages, I am not so sure whether you would like to convince the Chairman that there is a need to read this into the record.  This forms part of an application which has been made on a prescribed form, which has been signed under oath.  It's like pleadings you know, one does not normally read pleadings into a court record. It is one thing which you can do, it is one thing to lead your witness paragraph by paragraph, but it's quite a different thing to read what essentially is like pleadings into the record.