MR BERGER
Indeed Chairperson.   Now, why should that simply change, why should that position simply change because we are not at an amnesty hearing?  The purpose of the Section 29 hearing was so that the TRC, so that the Investigators who investigate amnesty hearings as well, could be assisted, so that people could come forward and give evidence.  I am talking in principle, I am not relating it to any of the applicants in this matter, I am talking merely as a matter of legal principle, to encourage people to come forward and speak without fear.