MRS GCABASHE
If you don't want to reveal his name, we understand that and it's your wish.  We will honour that.  Thanks, Mama, for relating your story to us and it's a very sad story.  And we can tell that your children are still in pain even today.  Maybe it will be better if you go and see our social workers, the ones that we have here and maybe they might refer you to counsellors, to a psychologist, so that you'll be helped.  We know it's difficult or you won't forget what actually happened to you but you will have the courage to talk about it over and over and you can handle it.  Now I'll hand over to my chairperson.