MR STRYDOM
May I intervene at this stage Chairperson.  It's my instructions that that confession is not an admissible confession in terms of the Constitution and in terms of the Criminal Procedure Act.  In fact the State prosecutor during the trial elected not to use those confessions on - well I can't say on that basis, but we opposed the admissibility of those confessions and we still maintain that those confessions are inadmissible evidence.