MR VISSER
And then in paragraph 44 he refers further that they had an appointment with Khubeka to pick her up from the Durban Station and that she was then handed over to the white senior officers and then he says
"Nthombi was blindfolded and tied tightly."
You've already given evidence that you cannot recall whether her hands were bound from the point of her arrest and during her transportation to Winkelspruit.