MR BOOYENS
Mr Chairman, the passage we are interested in of course I don't want to preclude anybody from looking any further, is with that with the other man.  That is all really all that we are interested in.
	Mr Mbane, were you able to hear, I'm referring specifically to the person that was sitting  with his back towards the camera on the excerpt that we saw.  Were you able to hear what he said, that person in the dialogue now?