PIETER JOHANN VERSTER
There were many other Intelligence Officers.  Mr Nel, as the system functioned then, had the connection with the formal intelligence channel of the South African Defence Force and of Special Forces, so the Co-ordinator, Mr Christo Britz, was the person that would then speak to him and would confirm information.  There were not meetings and meetings held.  It could be that I spoke to Mr Chris Nel and I do not have a problem with this.  He was not necessarily present at the final planning, he only gave the information, but it could be that he gave it through Christo Britz.