J P VAN DEN BERG
The evening of the 9th myself and three Defence Force members went back to the same observation points.  We heard Kobus Fourie saying on the radio that Matthews had arrived at the border fence and had stopped, gone through to the fountain.  We had seen movement at the fountain.  It was very close to half past eight that morning when Kobus Fourie said that they were crossing the border and that Matthews and his people were entering a Kombi.