ROBERT V O ZUMA
We knew that we might get ammunition from him because he was also prepared in most cases because he knew that people will attack.  We were just trying to try my luck by going to his place, we didn't exactly know that we'd find ammunition.  Even from me, people would have got ammunition so we thought he might have some and we went there.  As I've said, we got different ammunition from him and that's what I want to make clear.