MR WESSELS
Mr Chairman, I submit there's no substance in the main argument of Mr Bizos.  The authorities that he quoted related to finding a motive in criminal proceedings.  It may have been relevant in those particular cases.  We have here a completely different procedure with a different purpose in mind where a person comes and he says:  "I admit to having done certain things.  I'm asking for amnesty."  Those criminal cases are quite the opposite, there it is adduced to prove that a person committed the offence or the deed that he's being charged for.  Here it is admitted.  What is the purpose?  Is it being denied that the applicant took part in these offences for which he applied for amnesty?