ADV DE JAGER
Well Mr de Koker, I think he should have foreseen that other people could have been killed but that - I don't think that would affect his application for amnesty.   He should have foreseen that even some of his own people could have been killed as in fact happened and that was the basis on which I think the others were found guilty or he could have been found guilty.  So, as far as the fact is concerned that a murder of an offence was committed, I don't think we - it would be of any assistance to us to pursue that further because we accept it.