MR VERSTER
I do not know whether I maybe did say it in any case.  I don't know if I've said it here, but the first day that the CCB was uncovered and we had to - I think I said it yesterday, every incident was presented to my legal team and at the Minister's level it was said "what did you do?"  I was under the impression that I was honest in everything that I could get from the regions and I did present it ...(intervention)