EUGENE ALEXANDER DE KOCK
No, Chairperson, not necessarily.  If Lt Mose, when he climbed out of the vehicle, began walking and raised his hands or indicated us to leave it, then that would have happened.  For us the signal or the indication would have been when he climbed out and ran around the front of the vehicle to get out of the line of fire because according to him these persons were armed.  Because when I pulled the trigger, within myself I was convinced that I was pulling the trigger on an armed person.