FERDINAND BARNARD
By nature of the situation Chairperson, I began by committing minor crimes and offences, with these persons.  I would recruit someone who is a truck driver bringing mandrax in from Zambia because there was a limited number of methods in which to smuggle things into the Republic, so I would depart from the point that I would approach that truck driver because I linked the mandrax smugglers with that man.  If he told me that he wanted an AK47 or whatever, I would see to it that he would get whatever it is that he wants.  I knew that it would be for an illegal reason, but I would make sure that he would get it and at the end of the day it went as far as my addiction to cocaine, which was more with DCC than when I was at the CCB, but I was highly addicted to cocaine.