MR MALAN
May I then just follow up with the applicant the issue of motive in order to see to what extent we can be of assistance and I accept your ....[inaudible] to argue on the ...[inaudible].   Who is taking up my microphone every time?
	Mr de Ru I would like to ask you, would you then just explain in your own words what was the political motive for the committing of these murders?  I am asking this and I think that the legal representatives would have said to you that you can apply for amnesty for any crime for which there is a political motive in committing this offence.