MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA
Thank you mamma, your experience is very painful.  We understand this.  That during your old age times, now you are - you are an invalid but we can't even see it.
We can't even see the cause of all this.  Now how can a old woman like you, can be chased by police and be shot, we don't understand why that happened to you.  It is very difficult to believe something like this telling us that the police burnt houses.
Especially this people called wit doeke, we don't understand why did all these to people, killing people, destroying people for no reason at all.  We understand this is very painful mamma.  We don't understand why it started and how it ended.
Mamma I want to ask you something, you said something about a lawyer, did you - you said you don't remember the name of the lawyer, you can only remember Reverend Dave Russell, and Reverend Matolengwe but you don't know the names of the lawyers, I don't know if - the man next to you can be able to tell us in that regard.