MR NONGENA
Yes, they wanted us, they were demanding the truth.  On the second day, they came again, took us out of the cell.  We were taken out.  They took.. They would... It was, it was like routine.  They'd take us out of the cell and into the water.  There was... Donald Card there.  Xanti, Xanti would say that he was going to call Donald Card for us, who was going to sort us out.  It was difficult to see him because it was at night but I would hear them calling out his name, Donald Card.