CHAIRPERSON
Let's assume this man had 20 firearms, how is that relevant to the question of whether or not he went to Boipatong and was part of the attack and indeed he took part in the attack?  I think the point has been made. I gather that you're going to give us some documentation to support what you're saying, and that is that he had three firearms issued to him and he says on the one hand that he only had two.  He's given us an explanation yesterday as to how that occurred.  Can you take the matter any further, because I think all that you need to do is just to provide us with the documents which indicate that.