DIRK ADRIAAN VAN DER BANK
Thank you.  Mr Chairman I think it's much easier for me to give that answer than it is for the people who have lost loved ones.  I will try.  I think we all must try and contribute and that is why I am here today.  I would have come even if I did not get an invitation because for four years I have been living with this.  I think that by contributing and telling the truth and feeling really sorry on what happened is already the first step in healing the bleeding wounds of those people who have suffered, and that we must have a mutual understanding.  I can just say, and I don't want to clamp down on the seriousness of this that people asked me, White people asked me, how are you staying in Ciskei, are you safe there, and I said yes I think I am more safe there than I was in King Williamstown when I stayed there.  Yes we have made good friends and I think we must take the road forward.