MR TIPP
Mr Chairman, in consequence of Mr Maphanga's evident difficulty with recalling the events of the day, of recalling any detail in respect of the preceding organising events that would be or assistance to the Committee, although we don't in any way agree with the general trend of what Mr Maphanga has expressed here, we certainly understand his difficulties, we don't agree with it, but we believe with respect that we would advance the work of the Committee by moving on to another witness.  We in those circumstances propose not to tax Mr Maphanga any further.