MR J DE CASTRO
Well it's a small town and everybody knows everybody.  We used to greet people, you know white people, black people, we used to greet everybody with the hand.  I had nothing against nobody, I used to greet black people at that time with my hand.  I had no, I couldn't care what people would say to me, say why you greeting a black man, I mean to me black and white we are you know we are all people and you know that is why I say we, you know we had a good relationship with the customers of Wesselsbron, white and black, we had no problems whatsoever.