MR MBANDAZAYO
Mr Chairman, I don't disagree that his family was attacked, but I'm talking about the time frame.  In his evidence it transpired during cross-examination that it's not true that your family was attacked and he agreed.  Then the evidence leader continued asking him about that.  But it was not put as to what - actually at what did it happen.  Was it before you came back from Transkei or before you went to Transkei.