JEFFREY THAMSANQA RADEBE
That is correct.  At the time, as the Deputy Chairperson of the ANC, I was responsible for security matters in Southern Natal.  Because particularly of my involvement as Projects' Coordinator for the National Association of Democratic Lawyers and witnessing first hand the violence that was (indistinct) here in Southern Natal, that is why I was made responsible for this task of seeing the political establishment of Self Defence Units in Southern Natal.