NORMAN ARENDSE
Now then comment on this, why is it recorded by Mr Lubbe, the investigator, that Inspector Etsebeth who took down your statement on the 5th of January 1994, why does Etsebeth say that he was instructed by Mr Segal, Superintendent Segal to take down your statement?  Can you comment on that?  That's on page 9 of the second bundle. "Segal told Etsebeth, take down Sibaya's statement".