MR PRETORIUS
It is not merely by looking at people Mr Honourable Chairman, it is the conduct of that people what is inside him, how he feels about his King etc.  It is possible for instance for - to put it in another way - for a South African person to immigrate to England and then when he's in England, lose track of his traditions in South Africa, etc. etc. and then become more British orientated than taking care of his own traditions.