ERNEST RAMATALA
You see when talking about this issue of compensation, the whole group of Vlakplaas, all of them they cannot be involved in ...[indistinct] or killing one person, there maybe can be two people or three people involved.  Others don't know about that when coming to a mere arrest where others can make a trip, others can watch or keep or still like that but bonus we used to get.  But even those who were killed, who kill, they used to get the bonus.