MR PANDAY
Thank you.  Now Mr Ntshangase, just to get one more important question, in your affidavit on page 80 of the bundle of documents, if you'd like a copy I've got a spare copy, if you would just read it?  Right, you testified in the beginning in your evidence that you identified yourself and then the constable kicked the door in and it was at that point that shots were fired.  Now let me refer you to paragraph 4 of your affidavit that states that as is quoted
"On our arrival at the door I knocked at the door"
Right?  "I knocked at the door", is that correct?