LEON A MAREE
That is correct.
MR P DU PLESSIS
"Who provided this information to the Commission.  Verster was still running the surveillance eavesdropping exercise at the time Lubowski was shot.  He told the Commission that he was shot by the killing because we were recruiting him"
That refers to Lubowski,
"and it was the wrong person every to have shot.  He was instructed to return to South Africa immediately after the shooting."
Out of this it's very clear that Rich Verster was involved at DCC during the Lubowski murder, 12th September, 1989.  Are you aware of that?