CHAIRPERSON
It is either not in sequence or maybe there is some other explanation.  Are we talking about what happened on the 14th or are we talking about the 15th. I thought that on the 14th things were terrible, there had been teargas, rubber bullets were fired.  He went to enquire whether there were people hurt and so on.  Now, we come to the 15th, as I understand, and he says he come across a group of youth.  Now then, is he now talking about what happened on the 15th at that stage?