MR KNOETZE
If I can then refer you to page 288 of the record, from line 11.  There you say:  "In my mind that Mr Van der Schyff, that he would not follow the order precisely.  The order was that there had to be bodies and our target group was the ANC, SACP alliance persons.  Therefore I had not doubt that he would comply with the order".  Mr Koetze:  "You say that despite the fact that he had to kill people, which according to the law of our country was an offence?".   Mr Kloppers:  "According to the laws of the country it was illegal to kill people, but according to me it was a guerrilla war".  Mr Koetze:  "About what you said at the Roadside Cafe and what you said that the revolution would start that day".  Mr Kloppers:  "That is correct, I made them understand that the revolution was not starting in Randfontein area, but country wide and that us as a group, at Randfontein, we would act in Randfontein area".  Concerning this part of your evidence he will say that he never heard you say that the General wanted to see corpses.