MR BLACK
Well, we had arrived at this - this is the - it would indicate the incidents in respect of which the applicant is seeking amnesty   occurred on that particular day.    At the time of him committing the offences in respect of which he seeks amnesty, I respectfully submit that there is sufficient evidence before this Court to indicate that his state of mind, his suspicions of the activities which took place immediately prior to the shooting, was such that he is convinced, and he indicated convincingly, with respect, to the committee that he was now the subject of an assassination plot.
	We have dealt at some length at what stage he became convinced that these two white policemen bearing firearms were security police, he was convinced that they were there to assassinate him, he had been warned previously that attempts were going to be made to assassinate him and he felt at that stage it was necessary to take vital steps to protect his life and family, and he had complained and reported repeatedly to his political party, the African National Congress, they had instructed him to take the necessary steps, given his military training, to avoid any form of assassination or attempt on his life.   
	At the time of the shooting of the late Sergeant Van der Spuy, I respectfully submit that the applicant acted out of political motives and political necessity.   It was not a matter for self gain or for some ulterior motive.   He was, after repeated questions being put to him, he convincingly stated most emphatically that this was a plot to assassinate him.   He was so convinced that this was an entire set-up that he even suspected the ambulance which arrived, which, according to him, in a most unusually prompt and quick manner in that part of the country where he lives.  He says you don't see that.   So he felt... (intervention).