SILIMELA QUKUBONA NGESI
Those people were armed, then we didn't see their arms on that particular day, but we heard, through the newspapers and the radios that one lady tried to take her firearm, they say there was an armed policeman, but we didn't see him, nor the gun.  A person who escaped there had a revolver, a triple eight, he shot in the air about three times, maybe he was trying to call the police.  That's the report we got from the newspapers and the radios, even in court, that was the information that was given.  Even if the police were there, we were going to kill them.  The police station was about 100 metres from the scene, it's not far, it's only two streets from the supermarket.  They heard that there was a shooting, but they didn't come, they didn't go to that police when we were there.