MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, I'm going to come in here, with great respect, I expected this.  Mr Chairman, in terms of our constitution and in terms of procedure, a well accepted and well founded procedure, an accused person who is being accused of something is entitled to be told what he's being accused of.  My learned friend Mr Memani, appears for two applicants here who have applied for amnesty, various incidents, they've been placed in dispute.  There's an enormous amount or evidence Mr Chairman.
	It is unfair and unreasonable to expect this witness to say: "Well, I am implicated in exactly this, that and the other", because with great respect Mr Chairman, we are confused ourselves as to what precisely the applications are about.  Let Mr Memani put his case to the witness Mr Chairman, it is unfair to ask him what he's been implicated with.