JOHANNES AFRICA MASWENG HLAPO
People didn't speak in that particular meeting spontaneously, it was not an anarchic thing this thing, there was no anarchy in that church.  What was happened there, the chairperson or the master of ceremonies who is in front of us there, will call somebody and say "Can you come in front and address the crowd and say whatever you want to say to the crowd".  Like myself, I went in front and addressed the crowd and I talked specifically about Mr Loza who was detained and tortured in Bishop Lavis.  So I spoke about Mr Loza there, who died in the '70's, between '77 and '78 he was buried in NY5.