MR VISSER
It is noted on your page 7 at the bottom to page 8, Chairperson, where certain allegations are made and dealt with.
	Mr Botha, I would just like to refer you to a number of aspects.  In bundle 2, from page 130 and 131, there is a statement from Mr Jimmy Mbane and I will not discuss everything with you, but just put the most important points to you, there he states that he and Dube, by the way Mr Dube has also passed away subsequently.