UNKNOWN
Well, Mr Chairperson, don't let us press this because of the difficulties because we believe that we have sufficient grounds on non-controversial interpretations of the section.  But we thought that we would - this does not detract from our argument that predominance of the motive was not that of an ordinary member of the Security Force or an employee or agent.  I don't intend reading, Mr Chairperson, the section until the next heading which is on page 32, proportionality and with your leave I would ask my learned friend, Mr Kahanovitz to continue with the argument and I'll take over once my throat has recovered.  That's not the only reason, it's his work admittedly.