MR AVENANT
Thank you.  I would like to just for a moment just concentrate on the order given to General Griebenauw since Katzen was, to a large extent, a Defence Force initiative and I would like to go back to that part of the evidence in respect of the meeting held in Port Elizabeth where the instruction was initially given and where General Griebenauw then voiced his objections to it.
	His evidence was that he received an order from the Commissioner of Police via Brigadier Schoon who attended the meeting as the Commissioner of Police's representative at that meeting.  It is my submission that this order was sufficient to place him within the requirements of the Act and in any event if there had never been such an order from the police side there would never have been a withdrawal from the Plan as the later evidence proves.
	I do not know if there are any further aspects.