ISAIAH PATRICK SIYALI
You are asking me one question for many times.  A person who can speak English or Afrikaans but after the assault they would call us to interpret.  You've been asking me that question and I am giving you the same answer, I'm not going to change.  The black officers were not present during the torturing.  We'd be called after the assault and during our interpreting, we would be - they would be still assaulted, but when they start this whole thing, we would not be there.