MR DU PLESSIS
Yes, and then on page 10 of bundle A, the fifth line from the bottom - page 10, this is the application of Venter which was committed in January 1989, - the fifth line from the bottom, you say
"I was transported to Bloemfontein by Constable Hendrik Bokaba with a state vehicle"
Do you see that?  You say he was a Constable in 1989 but in your first application you say he was already a Sergeant in 1987 to 1988 - in bundle C.  Was that also a mistake?  ...[intervention]