NICHOLAS JACOBUS JANSE VAN RENSBURG
I don't know whether at that stage we've already decided by the 23rd of July, I can't say whether we've already decided then.  I've previously said yes at that stage I believed that I had to assist them.  We had to bring this political dilemma under control, I had to assist them in doing that in solving the problem.  About when, I can't remember the precise date when we made this decision, but yes, if I think back, it's all a big pity now.