PHILEMON KABILA MAXAM
This is a different case, because we were together with these people from the township and we went together to the farm.  It is difficult just to shoot at them, because we went together.  As we were running it would be difficult to think that this person would tell the police or would identify me.  We were just running.  What I would like to explain is that at the time when you went to the police and identify a person, in the township you would be labelled as an informer.  The community would label this person as an informer.