ADV MOTATA
No, it cannot be Mr Van der Berg, we have evidence before us from Peter de Ionne, he says he even went to the Air Base or rather Military Base and it is these khaki clad people who were pointing them with arms, firearms and say get away here.
	So, wouldn't that kind of evidence strengthen the applicant's rumour that the AWB have taken over, if we have regard to Peter de Ionne's evidence?