MS PATEL
Alright, in response to your and or for purposes of the record I might just add, Honourable Chairperson, that the only victims in this matter we were really unable to trace were in fact, if I can just - I think it's the Cobus family that we were unable to, the rest of the victims, Mrs Marulia who was not involved with you but - and have stated that they do not wish to relive the incident again.  They were all old at the time that it happened and they didn't want to be traumatised again by this process and so that is the reason that the victims are not here, not because they agree with what you say.  Thank you Honourable Chairperson, I have no further questions.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MS PATEL