MR PRIOR
I omitted to say that.  Yes, his affidavit will been "C".  Mr Chairman, may I just for the record place the following on record, the notices were sent out, the section 19 notices, to victims.  The deceased in this matter was a Mr Smit who died during this operation, during this attack.  His widow was informed, and she obtained the services of Mr Jan Wagenaar, attorney with Wagenaar, Muller and Du Plessis of Pretoria.  My I place on record, Mr Chairman, that Mr Wagenaar had certain difficulties.  This matter was set down for hearing for last week, but we accommodated him and set it down for today onwards.  I, he is not present and I phoned him at the luncheon adjournment and he indicated that he would not be appearing because of certain difficulties he had had in obtaining funding of his client through the Legal Aid.  Mr Chairman, I don't think this is the time to go into the merits of what Mr Wagenaar told me, I accept what he has said to me there.  I know that there was some difficulties that he had, or some objections that he had voiced to the TRC, and those were taken up with the relevant officers there.  Suffice to say that he is not appearing.  His client has been informed about the position and there is no appearance from the widow of Mr Smit.  I indicated to him nevertheless that this matter as in the case of the other matters would be postponed to hear evidence from the PAC or APLA High Command, and he indicated that at that stage he my well have been properly instructed and my appear at that stage, but that decision would be made at a later time.  The other victims that were involved was a Mr Deon Maartens who was in the vehicle driven by Mr Smit, unfortunately he has since passed away in a motor accident unrelated to this event.  A Mr A Franzsen who is present today and a Mr B Maliehe, he has been given notice, but we've had no feed back from him as to whether he wants to appear in the matter or not.  The implicated person is as in the other matter, Mr Mphahlele and he is present.  Thank you Mr Chairman.