JOHANNES JACOBUS VIKTOR
Forget the General's hat and forget my fathership, I'm both.  I was a general for quite a number of years and I am a father, I am a grandfather, and as a very experienced detective I went along with the Colonel from Pretoria, the ballistic expert and it's not a question of reflecting afterwards, it is that day I saw bullet holes there in the grandstand, right up there, and that is why I have said in my statement here where I was I couldn't see any reason, as far as I could determine, any reason for, I can't say what happened there in front on the north-east side, but here where I was I couldn't see any reason why the soldiers opened fire on the crowd around there, especially after, as I say, having visited the scene and going into
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the stadium, going into the grandstand and see where we found bullet holes right up there in the grandstand.  As a policeman, as I say, what I could determine, I couldn't see any reason why shots were fired right up there into the grandstand.