MR P DU PLESSIS
I think we can now move to the next issue, perhaps before we get to the "Operation 'Apie'", the baboon foetus project, as far as Calla Botha was concerned, I have already mentioned the White incident and we have already heard evidence about a certain Roskam who was the Chairperson of the student organisation at Wits, whose vehicle had been burnt, is that correct?