MR MBANDAZAYO
Through you, Chairperson, I recall that evidence.  When they were asked
"Why did you take Donne Meyers because the instructions were clear that you get Mike Meyers?"
That was in response to that, and the response was that the reason was that Mike Meyers was dead and they believed that she might be of help because she is the daughter to Mike Meyers and that's when they, their evidence says that when they arrived, when they met Thandukolo, Thandukolo said she is useless, there is nothing we can get from her.