MR RICHARD
Then on the version that I'm here to put to you, the ceased elects to leave his home in Soweto and goes and stays with people in Johannesburg, and I will tell you that one of the people in Johannesburg that he stayed with was also an underground operative and that Sicelo was fully aware of his activities and that this person also had arms caches in his residence and that nothing happened to him.  Would you able to contradict, comment or rebut what I've just said?