TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  And I say this with great respect.  I think we should not apologise for hearing a point of view, but I also don't wish to even feel intimidated by another point of view of another political party.  There is only one approach to justice and morality.  There cannot be two sides to justice and morality, with great respect, and I do appeal to the Commission not to feel intimidated - not to even think that you have compromised yourself by hearing me today or a point of view, because I think history has recorded this kind of conduct in many parts of the world and I would be most interested and I would wait with bated breath to hear whether there can be another point of view for the role of people who upheld an unjust regime.  I understand the context in which you are placed in this particular province, but I say with great respect, we should never be afraid of the truth and I believe this is what this Truth and Reconciliation Commission is about and I do believe that, strongly - I just cannot believe that there could be some point of view that is on the other side.  The best that one can hear is that, "Well, there were factors that caused me or other people on the other side to take a different perspective", but certainly there cannot be another morality and another justice.  I am not saying that this is the one, but I do believe that the Commission will identify only one justice and one morality for this country, for Africa and for the world.   /Thank you.