MR VISSER
If we can pay attention to the various and I want to go through those quickly.  You know precisely, if I give you a short reference to which incidents I'm referring.  We've already consulted regarding that, I don't want to waste any time.
	Mr Ngo involved you or implicated you in the murder and robbery on Mr Venter.  He said in his application on page 8 of bundle C and following on that that you instructed him to murder Mr Venter and that you had to see to it, on page 8, that this murder would appear to have been a robbery and a break-in.