MR NORTJE
I would imagine that it was the same day, because Duli stayed in the Osner hotel and there was a meeting there as well, and I cannot recall whether I was present there, but I would assume that afterwards, I spoke to Mr De Kock and he told me that they were not interested, or what arose from this was a specific agreement as to where they would meet and where the weapons would be handed over, the final planning was there, the details with regard to where the weapons would be handed over.