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Thank you Mr Chairman.  I'm nearly finished.  So my submission is that this evidence contained in the Truth and Reconciliation Commission report as well as the evidence given by Webb and Verster, should be taken into consideration.  It was mentioned here, I think by Mr Chairman yourself, who placed Burger in the upper managerial echelons of the CCB.  I wish to submit that that is not quite correct.  He was not allowed to go to Headquarters to associate himself with any of the other regional.