PUMELELE CIVILIAN HERMANS
As we were people who were always in the office, we were working in the office, but we would go out to different Branches.  When we came back at other times, we would find from the Administrator that there were people from a certain Branch who came and gave a report about their fears in their areas, for example in Gomolo.
	People were scared of whites that they didn't trust.  Port St Johns, in town, there were times when the workers were experiencing problems.  They then came to our offices and reported, and gave us a report about the matter and there was a white man who was a businessman by the name of John Costello.  His workers had a problem concerning him.
	They then came to the ANC offices asking for help.  They were having problems about their salaries or wages, and the conditions of employment.  They had doubts about certain things, they had doubts about the way he was speaking to them.