CARL CASTELING BOTHA
I am not saying that I have to fight for my credibility here.  I have given you the facts as I have experienced them and I must rely upon the two opinions of those who were involved with me at the scene.  I cannot take it any further than that.  I don't want to enter into an argument with you.  I am telling you that this was my experience of it and I cannot say anymore.  If you tell me that the lights were on and you have a witness who can verify this then I will have to say Mr Bizos so be it, that's your opinion.  Then I will accept it for what it is worth.  But I cannot accept it as having been so in essence.