EUGENE ALEXANDER DE KOCK
No Chairperson.  Can I just qualify just to give you a broader comprehension.
	I would have had eight to ten groups in the field of which the one was at Barkly.  Then I had agents in Swaziland and border patrols.
	So, at the end of the month, I would have the full picture or most of the information.  My authority was delegated by the Divisional Commander.  If that Divisional Commander kept information from me, then I would not be aware of it.
	My members as far as I know, fully briefed me.  I did ask questions and that is why I mentioned here that I have a vague recollection that the person who died, escaped because his shoes came off.  And it is then that he went through the window.
	That is just to give you an indication.