MR STANDER
I have been given the docket and during the first adjournment I discussed the docket with Mr White Mohapi.  I must say that the only aspect which is very clear from that docket, and which I have instructions to place on record, is that the date of the incident was the 13th of April - if you'll just give me a moment, it is the 13th day of April 1984 when he was arrested.