MR VAN SCHALKWYK
Mr Visser referred you yesterday whilst you were giving your evidence, he referred you to two passages in the judgement of Judge Thirion in this incident and it is now the Ramlakan case, as it was reported, and Chairperson, I must just say that it was quoted from the report from the Jude Francis' case and Mr Visser quoted and he referred to 2639 of that specific record with regards to a finding which the Court then made concerning certain explosions.
	I just want to ask you about those explosions and Mr Visser also said that on the evidence therefore, we find that the State has proved that the following of the explosions were caused by ANC operators in pursuance of the aims of the ANC.
	And then there is a list of all the explosions.  I am going to show this to you.  Maybe I will just read it and then the Committee can hear it as well Chairperson.  (i) The explosion at the Spar Foodliner, (ii) the explosion as XL  Restaurant.  Can I just ask you, this XL Restaurant, was this the same restaurant which appears in these two Annexures G and H which was submitted earlier?  That is the Annexures of the charge sheet with regards to the acts of 7 and 8, in other words Bhila and Nxiweni?