MR WILLS
Yes, thank you Mr Chairperson.  The first question that I think I need to answer, or in regard to the first two incidents is whether the applicant's participation in those incidents, both of those instances amounted to any criminal conduct.
	My submission is that it does.  At the very least, he would be seen as a socius criminis or an accomplice, possibly even depending on an investigation of common purpose, he might even constitute being a murderer.
	What is clear from the applicant's evidence, is that in both instances, he pointed out the deceased persons and he had full knowledge beforehand, as to what the intentions of the, of Pat, the person who delivered the blow, was going to do.