CHAIRPERSON
Yes, but I think any person who gets involved in a serious crime that requires planning such as kidnapping or robbing a bank or whatever, involves himself in planning, but would you involve yourself, let's say in the robbing of a bank, in the planning, the set up and even in the execution and get no cut from it?  Would you place yourself at that sort of risk to get no cut, I think this is what Mr Mbandazayo is getting at - why did you, what is, why did you actually do it, were you sucked into it, did you feel very passionately about Transkei?