PROF DE KOKER
I am not disputing that Mr Chairman, but what I am enquiring about is the date because according to the evidence that we've received, this statement was drawn the previous day.  The next morning - early in the morning, they went to the police.  By that stage - somehow then this affidavit which they had in their possession was handed to the police, went to the level of Generals in Pretoria who negotiated it and when they came the next morning there was already an answer.  We have no indication that that is on table, that the affidavit ...[intervention]