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Thank you Mr Chairman.  Mr Chairman, in as far as the requirements are concerned, I'll start with the political objective.  I do not have anything to say to that Mr Chairman.
	In as far as full disclosure as well is concerned, Mr Chairman I discussed this with my learned friend that I find myself in a difficult position in that if you gainsay what has been said you must be able to substitute and say: "This is the truth", but in this incident I find myself in a difficult position in that before the applicants could come forward some other person has allegedly claimed to have done the job.  And in addition, this was not part of evidence but the PAC as well stood up and said: "We are responsible".  Now that clouds my mind further.  Unfortunately in this regard Mr Chairman, I cannot assist the Committee, so I'll leave it to the able decision of the Committee.
	Mr Chairman, the only aspect I want to refer to is the one referred to by my learned friend, one of the criteria under Section 20, Sub-Section 3, paragraph (f) and more particularly to what he said about the aspect of proportionality.  Mr Chairman, even if we are not sure as to how many bullets were used, but  ...[intervention]