PIETER JOHANN VERSTER
That was the structure, Chairperson.  At times when it went quickly, there were verbal discussions and then later the budget was signed.  In the case of Region 6, as I recall it, there was sufficient administration and then I authorised it in writing.  I will listen to the plan.  If the plan is approved, and then I discussed it with the Chairperson and then either the Chairperson would sign it, or at times when it was a verbal matter, I would sign it, that is how it happened in practice.