MR HOLE
Yes. Thank you Sir I had. Sir the situation is as follows. Yesterday these applicants and myself attended yesterday from the beginning of the proceedings until the Committee adjourned for the day, yesterday. It appears Mr Chairman Sir that the question of fees for the attorney arises out of the failure to file the papers by a certain date. Mr Chairman on the face of it, it would appear that there could be imputed negligence but if not wilful default. But the Committee has painstakingly taken this applicant on the fact surrounding this issue for which I must thank them.
	It does appear from the facts Mr Chairman Sir that there is a  (...indistinct) situation here. Mr Chairman Sir you have an applicant who stays in the rural areas. From his evidence this is very far away from Alice town. This is a rural area where from the evidence of the applicant there are no addresses. There are no street numbers, there are no street names, no numbers on the walls of the houses there. 
	From his evidence Sir it appears that even to get his mail he must use his father's work address. And he says even in that instance, Alice being what it is he still cannot get his mail as he should get it. Looked at, in the background of what he has painted to the Committee, one can only appreciate the difficulties that his legal team had in getting access to him. It appears from what he says Sir that his legal team even resorted to asking the local ANC people there to assist. And it appears from his evidence clearly also that he says eventually his attorneys made contact with him in East London. This is after attempts were made to look for him in Alice. And clearly Mr Chairman had it not been for those circumstances the affidavit which is the cause of this whole dispute would have been filed in time. 
	And Mr Chairman has information to the effect that when members of the support group of the Committee telephoned they were made promises to about the progress of this affidavit and when it would be available. Certainly the details of the difficulties were not given to them but we do not have a situation where a blatant refusal was made or somebody told the person involved that look no such affidavit will be filed. It does appear from the facts that attempts were being made to comply. It does appear that endeavours were made to contact the applicants. The situation under which the applicants' attorneys worked are not to the ideal Port Elizabeth situation where everybody has an address and where there are postmen, and where you can simply drive to and get the person you want. Certainly not, they were not the most ideal situation.