WILLIAM MAKULANI
I was with my wife and a baby because my wife had just got a baby at that time.  And then they said to me  Let us go, come out.  And I was dressed already at that time.  So I did go outside and I saw a police van outside and I was shoved into one of the vans.  
They drove away with me to the Police Station where we were separated and we were put into another van and we were put into various vans - in groups.  So in the Police Camp towards early morning, they took us to Beaufort West and they drove on to Oudtshoorn and in Oudtshoorn they again divided us into groups.  They sent me to Calitzdorp, together with another man and some other people I do not now.  In Calitzdorp - that is where we were for about 2 weeks and were being fed on porridge only. 
Ever since I was taken from home, I was given porridge and it was very tough.  I even complained that we couldn't even get gravy because we're even having some heartburn from eating the porridge.  Then my colleagues they said that I should go and talk to this white policeman.  Then I asked him to call them to me.  So he said yes he would.
Then at night we were offered soup and pap -  porridge  - and then they came for me,  so I left the others behind.  Then they moved me from Calitzdorp to Oudtshoorn and they asked me if I knew why I had been arrested.  Then I said I didn't know.  Then they said they had them - they had arrested me because of  [indistinct]  which is PAC wing.
Then I said to them that I knew nothing about that thing.  Then they said that I was telling them nonsense, then I said I wasn't telling them any nonsense.  Then one white man that was standing in front of me said that I was telling them nonsense, I should tell them the truth.  Then I told them that that was the only truth I had.  I didn't know anything.