MR VISSER
Mr Makhubalo, let's get on with the evidence, and please would you stop giving the impression of being sanctimonious.  We don't need a sermon or a lecture from you please, thank you.
	You showed the Committee some marks on your arms, did you not?  You are not going to reply to the question are you?  All right, I am just going to place on record that on the outer right lower arm, you've got two marks.  The longest of which is about two centimetres, Mr Chairman.