CHAIRPERSON
I wouldn't ascribe it to anything, and I would prefer to leave it that way.  Had Mr Skananda indeed had been dead, and was that within the knowledge of the applicant, and he came here with the evidence saying that I know that Skananda is dead, however, I am now saying in as much as I said that in my application, that is in fact not so, then I would definitely say he is being honest, because he knows there is no way we can gain say what he says, because the person so implicated, has passed away.
	I don't think it is a point that needs to be belaboured that much.  
	Can I just ask you something whilst we are on this point.  Can one not assume that the fact that Skananda completed or advised the applicant to insert the fact that he was the Commander of the SDU, is not intended to suggest that Skananda was the overall Commander of the SDU's in the township?