BONGANI FINCA
4th August sorry, that instruction to take action was given.  Before that instruction, I assume that it was given by yourself sir, but it was given, but before that instruction was executed, Brigadier Gqozo actually intervened to reverse it.  So on the 4th August there could have been shooting and am I to understand that there was on the 4th August a charge through the stadium around the right-hand flank of the Ciskei Police?  I happen to think that there was none, but an order was given to shoot.
 Now how do you reconcile that with the statement on page 33 where you say that the motive for the shooting was that charge.  Full story.