THEMBELANI TANDEKILE XUNDU
Okay.  There mere fact that they are here, it means that they have not applied for amnesty, that is the first point.  The second point is that the names I can recall, know about them, I don't know if they are real names and I have just recalled that comrade Bheki was also Jerry and Vido, it ends there, there's nothing else that I know.
	Perhaps if the administration of APLA at that point in time which was under the late comrade Power or the former captain Ngigelani, he died in certain conditions in Cape Town, I mean, if I look at this big file there is also something which he alleges.  Ama policeman forced him to write at a time when he was ...[intervention]