MR CLAASSEN
Thank you Mr Chair, just, maybe just one further point.  Mr Dastile, just getting around to if I may refer the Committee to page 103 of the judgment.  Mr Dastile and I would like to quote, this is starting from line 12.  This is now the Judge relating to the attitude of the people, this is now the ANC group, and
"...according to the testimony of a witness Mr Sindisile Dastile, many of them armed themselves with kerries and seemed to be preparing for violence."
Would you agree with that?