MS VAN DER WALT
With respect yes, because I wanted to question him and I will refer you to the exact place in his statement, where he states that Themba ran away and that he then shot him.  That is why he is prepared today and yesterday with his evidence, because if that was the case, his order was to shoot Mr Msibi, why would he then shoot an innocent person who was running away?
	Because then he could not receive amnesty for that case that wasn't part of his order, it wasn't a question of cross-fire, but I would like to tell you exactly what he said if you could just grant me a moment.
	On page 37, paragraph 16 - Mlangeni tried to run away and I shot him.  He died immediately.  Nothing about what he thought, but you must remember now, according to this statement the till wasn't outside.  He first went into the shop to get it.