CHAIRPERSON
Yes, yes what we do of course in proceedings of this nature which is not really trial proceedings.  We're sitting as an administrative tribunal, so we  are under duty to be fair to the parties, to the proceedings.  We have certain statutory rights and duties as well as a Panel and the overriding consideration is to ensure that everybody gets a fair opportunity of putting of whatever they want to put to us so we are here to make sure that nobody abuses any of their rights.