GEORGE BIZOS
Mr Chairman, with the greatest respect, Mr van Zyl clearly stated what the procedure was, Mr Verster clearly stated what the procedure was, none of them were challenged in relation to what that procedure was.  Mr Verster said that he got permission from Gen Webb.  These hypotheses that are begin put are not based on the evidence.  If hypotheses are to be put, they must be put on the evidence and no attempts should be made in order to reconcile irreconcilable differences.  The differences on the evidence are irreconcilable, Mr Chairman, and an attempt is being made - and I will read a passage from a judgment in relation to the CCB, from another Court, as to what has happened in other proceedings.  We are here to try and prevent the same thing from happened here, Mr Chairman.