MR LAX
Look, the simple issue is that when we're dealing with what his objective was, his objective was to go there to blow up the building, but to blow it up in such a way that it would have certain consequences.  That's what he testified.  And the Objectors are basically saying, if I understand their Heads correctly, that that's simply not borne out by the facts and that the only inference you can draw is that that's not possibly true.
	Now you relied on Hardien seeing Williams in there, but what Hardien says he did when he went into the building is to warn Williams that there's a bomb in the thing.  I mean, do we believe that bit of evidence?