TOM JABULANI MADLALA
What happened from the 1st of January was that the IFP would collect people from other areas, areas like Lindelane or ...(indistinct) at Emapondwene and people from Chief Kawula's area, so that most of the people who were killed were not known to me.  I did not know them.  For instance, on the 1st of January I shot somebody at my home.  I did not know who that person was.  He was another gentleman from kwaMakhutha, therefore when we clashed with the IFP, it would be - we were fighting against people we did not know because they were not from the area.  This did not happen just on these two occasions but there were many others where unknown persons would attack us, some of them speaking Xhosa.