DR RANDERA
Was it common in those days, in 1986, I know there was all the resistance against the incorporation, perhaps against the Government as such of Venda, but was it common for the Police to actually stop buses with loads of people .... Hold on, let me just finish my question and to then demand taxes and if people were not paying taxes, they would be beaten up?  Was it very common?  Have you heard of any other incidences like that?