N JACK MENERA
Don't lose temper with me please.  I want to explain this.  I was asked a question by the judge as to whether I ask for forgiveness from Mr Phelane.  I said shortly, no Mr Morgan Phelane did wrong against the community, that is what I said to the Judge. I'm not speaking on behalf of Jack Menera, I am standing here on behalf of the ANC and the Youth League as the whole.  I thank you.