OBED BAPELA
Well at the moment as we are talking here today I think we are no longer enemies with Azapo.  There is complete reconciliation between the two groupings but then the unfortunate thing is that those who were involved at the time are no longer there and they are no longer a part of Azapo and they are leading another life, a life which one could then say is the life that Eugene De Kock also after he was discharged from the police started leading.  I think they are leading that life now.  They are into criminal activities unfortunately, are no longer a part of the organisation that they did belong to when the events took place in 1986.