MR LAX
18A/21 actually confess to the world, you know.  In fact, then I agreed and then the conference was conducted.  Then I thought that - I remember it was on the Saturday morning and then the former - the late - actually former Secretary-General of the ANC, Mr Tito Mkobe (?), came.  Then he asked me - then I told him.  Then from then, you know, he also gave me a smack.  Now I was shocked, because I thought, you know, being a senior person he is going to save me from this situation where I was.  From then and then he said to me, you know, these boys are going to deal with me, you know, and then he left.  Then, you know, beatings continued and you will find that - I will eat maybe once in a week and then the prison warders that were there, you know, were the people who didn't have any mercy for people like myself, because they said no, they've big fish, you know.  And from then and then I still remember Mr Nzo came there - Foreign Minister to South Africa, Mr Alfred Nzo.  He also came there and I had a hope that he was going to help me.  He also, you know, dealt with me physically.  And then from then and then I really lost hope.