MS SEROKE
Thank you Mr Nkumbi -  I asked you firstly what was the situation in Hanover at that time.  I will read to you the report from our researchers  and I will tell you their report about the conflict around this place and the conflict between the UDF comrades and the leaders or the councillors.
[indistinct] the activity in Hanover, with the [indistinct] meeting in [indistinct] on 17 April 1985 to discuss grievances.  This meeting initiated the formation of the Hanover Residence Association as well as a youth organisation.
This initiative immediately launched a campaign against the councillors in the community who were unwilling to be drawn into this structures.  Calls were made for the councillors to leave the township.  It was alleged the Mayor of the township was beaten and his household goods burnt in [indistinct]
Toi-toi's were held with songs that called for the removal of the councillors - there were allegedly incidents where councillors drove into toi-toiing crowds - police also acted against this groups firing rubber bullets and tear gas. 
 It is said that the situation was so bad that the councillors had to leave the township and they had to stay in the tents.  Again it is said that Mr Mslaba the one you referred to in your statement was the one who was a mayor at that time.  I don't know you said that he was known as an informer - I don't know whether you  are aware that he was the Mayor.