NOMONDE CALATA
one of them who said, 'Lieutanent, can we do it?'  They asked questions after saying this.  
Matthew at the same time was being asked such questions" He was clever enough to tell 
Fort that one guy.......  (end of tape)  ..... yes he was able to explain and said, "I think they 
plan something very big about us". We took this lightly but we were unhappy and 
uncomfortable while we slept.  He kept on thinking about this incident in Port Elizabeth 
where they planned this and expressed that he was shocked about what he had heard.
 In May, when he was still absent, they didn't want to give him a driver's licence, so 
he was always escorted by someone,  when he was not there, his younger brother, Robbie 
was driving for him.  Roy came to inform me and told me and told me that when they 
were away with Mr Calata, the police came and stopped them.  He was the driver and they 
asked Matthew where Marai is.  He asked who Marai is?  And then they asked Fort if had 
forgotten his wife, Fort, sarcastically.  They said, "We will get you again, you and Marai."  
Matthew was cheeky and then he just regarded them and got into the car.  It was in May in 
the time.