CHAIRPERSON
Mr Koetze you presented to us a document in chambers.  We thought that maybe you could start putting the contents thereof to this witness and then we will see how we develop from there.  We have not as yet, I have discussed with - I don't remember whether all the members of the committee were there, but we all (indistinct) that we could proceed with the remaining applicants who have not as yet testified and then the contents of your client's new version could be put to them as they proceed and then if we have to recall anybody, then it will be done at the end after the remaining applicants shall have testified.  So we will start with this witness, Mr Kloppers.  Mr Kloppers a further Affidavit has been presented to us, made by one of the applicants, Mr Van der Schyff, and counsel is going to put some of the contents of that Affidavit or that statement to you for your comments.