CORNELIUS ADOLF JANSE ODENDAL
That is correct.  I just want to say on the 18th and 19th of February 1985 the Witdoeke they had information that they would be removed, the Administration Council said they would be moved, for three days they were attacking police, they were berserk, they threw petrol bombs at us, they shot at us, they put up road blockades with tree trunks, and then the Minister said, only then when the Minister said they will not be removed anymore, then only these fights stopped.