MR STEWART
Thank you Mr Chairperson, thank you.  Then, with that in mind then, really that's all that's left insofar as personal gain is concerned, is the couple of incidents which were referred to earlier where the applicants were rewarded by Mr Jamile in Claremont for performing particular hits, and in particular that was in relation to the murder of Zazi Khuzwayo and the shooting of the pedestrians following the Clewer remark.  And there's, some ground was covered in cross-examination in an attempt to show that the applicants were acting out of this motive, and in my submission the evidence doesn't bear that out at the end of the day, in fact it doesn't even come close.  That these were, if you like, ex gratia payments or gifts in thanks after the event.  There's nothing to indicate that the applicants were motivated in the expectation that this was what they were going to get, whether because it had been promised or because there was some pattern of it they therefore expected that it would happen, and that's why they did it. ...(intervention)