CHAIRPERSON
Sorry, Prof de Koker, I must tell the applicant, a pertinent question has been put to you that after the ANC had given an undertaking to many people and organisations that the march would be peaceful, why did you do this, your answer was, I think, more or less because an abnormal situation was building up.  You know, you have not really said anything.  By just saying an abnormal situation was building up, that is really not useful evidence.  You should tell us what it is that, abnormal in which way, you should really get, be practical and fewer (...indistinct) less, come down onto the level, onto the ground and really be concrete and give evidence.
	It does not help us to engage in high, in a high flown language and we really want evidence, you know.  What do you mean by because an abnormal situation was building up?