CHAIRPERSON
But you heard yesterday how we were arguing about it, did you not approach your Attorney and tell your Attorney exactly what the position was?  You were sitting here in the hearing, she made an application at the beginning of this hearing, asking for condonation for you and Shandu to be joined as applicants, despite there being no formal application form, an application before us, and she explained one time, that you believed, you were one of the people who believed that Mpanza's application was in fact an application on behalf of all of you?  Admittedly there was a second version, that seems to suggest what you are testifying now, but that gives us problems.
	We would like you to tell us how this came about.