MARY BURTON
Thank you Chairperson if I may I then ask Ms Javens to speak to us now, do we need to move the microphone near her.  Thank you Ms Javens, this is a story that is quite well known, so we'll try not to put you through too much as we ask you questions.  But your husband was one of the people who was killed in this attack and you were beside him in the church.  Would you like to tell us what you experienced at the time.