NORMAN ARENDSE
Mr Chairman, then we should get an indication Mrs - unless Ms - my colleague must go on oath, she has now said unless it's accepted by the Committee and Mr Prior that those were Mr Madasi's instructions.  There was clearly a communication problem between my and my colleague and Mr Madasi, it was not incorporated in the prepared statement that was handed to Mr Prior as a matter of  courtesy in the first place.  And unless that's accepted, then only can I accept what you're saying Mr Chairman, about our integrity not being impugned.