TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Thereafter, after a while - that was after this Mxenge car had been parked behind that van, because now the way was not so wide in such a way that it could pass.  Then thereafter that is when Almond and Joe Mamasela and Brian Ngulungwa went to him straight away and hinted that they had a problem, they wanted some jumpers, as if the battery was flat.  After all I suddenly heard them say to me, "You must bring the car, follow us," and then they were driving along.