MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, Visser on record, might I just make our position clear?  It has never been the intention to ask any confidential notes of any consultations, that's not the point at all.  The only point is simply this, that if witnesses are going to be called, we would hate to ask for the matter to stand down for us to prepare at that stage, we would like beforehand just to be prepared so that if a witness gives evidence, one can cross-examine him immediately, it's as simple as that.
	If that is all Mr Chairman, may I then proceed?  First of all Mr Chairman, you will find before you two bundles, copies of Exhibit A, we gave you one yesterday which I would ask you just to uplift to add the two covering pages to it.  I'm not sure where it is floating around at the moment but I recall that we handed you one copy without the covering pages yesterday.  If I could uplift that for a moment, I could add the two covering pages for you and then you would each have a copy, Mr Chairman.  The problem which we have is that we don't seem to be able to have copies made with the facilities of the TRC here, but we have been able to recover some copies so that at least each of the Members of the Committee will have a copy.  We won't address that document now, Mr Chairman, we will do so when Mr Botha appears before you as a witness.
If I may then continue with Mr Wasserman, Mr Chairman?
	Mr Wasserman, you are still bound by your oath which you took yesterday to speak the truth, do you understand that?