MR JACK DEMONSTRATES
In all? Okay, let me just try to - I will tell you these things, okay. I was, I told you I was arrested in 1979 and during that occasion I was taken to Sanlam Building, where in the evening I was assaulted by Mr Nieuwoudt and the other people I mentioned.  In 1980 there was a student boycott which Mr Nieuwoudt has referred to. During that year, Mr Nieuwoudt himself at least caught me, I am not saying I was arrested by other people, at least three times, that year.