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I see.  We will come back to that Mr Nieuwoudt.  If I 
could then deal with the next sentence in this paragraph I was 
dealing with at 328.  "The matter was further complicated by the 
fact that these members possibly had knowledge of covert offensive 
and defensive operations and could exert a certain influence on the 
other black members at the Security Branch?  That sound to me Mr 
Nieuwoudt, like you didn't really know whether they had, you simply 
speak of possibly had knowledge, you weren't really certain of 
whether these people had information in this regard?