JOHAN MARTIN VAN ZYL
That is correct.  It was clear that the person would have to be killed.  It also came out clearly that he had to disappear totally.  I can't remember whether it was I, myself, but we decided that we would make use of explosives to get rid of the person's corpse.  I did not know the rural areas in Transvaal at that stage, didn't know about a place that was deserted enough, where one could try and do this and I suggested that the only place that I knew of that was remote enough and suitable, was the Northern Natal area known as Zululand.