MR DU PLESSIS
I approached General Nick van Rensburg to assist me in this regard.  I told him in detail, if I remember correctly, van Rensburg was aware of the fact that I regarded this as a breakthrough to recruit Kondile.  I am honest today to say that I was proud of that.  This whole thing exploded in my face and he was the only person at this stage who could give assistance to me.  He had more experience than I had.