MR MBANDAZAYO
Yes Mr Chairperson, for instance Mr Chairperson, just to tie it up, the applicant was acquitted of shooting one of the victims who is here, Mr Grootboom and actual fact the reason for his acquittal is because the victim happened to point to another person and yet he is saying I'm the person who did that.  Well it's one of those things Mr Chairperson which shows that sometimes it's difficult when circumstances like this, I don't blame the victim for saying that because the circumstances were such that it was very difficult at that time in Fort Beaufort.