BENJAMIN BRODE
There is the possibility of that.  I will tell you why, 
because when I - well I did as Frans said, you know, froze because I 
did not realise that they were actually, physically shooting at us.  
And then at that stage I heard, I felt someone sort of nudge me from 
the back, that could have been you know, when he grabbed me to 
pull me inside.
	But I felt that I made headway inside.  We were all sort of, it 
was almost like in a scrum.