MR PHOSA
Now it says firstly, well he puts it this way
"We the undersigned Francis Rix Ames and Adrian David Marais declare under oath that the deliberate administration of thallium to anybody indicates a sophisticated knowledge of chemistry and/or toxicology or access to such knowledge by the perpetrator of such a poisoning".
Then he says: 
"This opinion is held for several reasons firstly, thallium poisoning has been extremely rare in the past few decades since it's use is a - as a rodenticide was discontinued.
	In 1974, Cavana et Al" - then he mentions a "...[inaudible] reported three cases of deliberate poisoning.  He noted that it was extremely rare in Britain".  
That really is the jest of my cross-examination really, it's based on that.  What is suggested here is that, it's a rare poison, difficult to come by and that people who administer it must be people who know very well.  I now your story, you know nothing about it, you can't dispute - you won't dispute this suggestion here, you don't dispute this?