MIA EUNICE THEMBISO
The pain that [indistinct] - I would like to say some more, something has really disturbing me now, this is something that took me to Court.  If the Courts - when they called somebody's name they would laugh, now we wouldn't know what they were laughing at us or who else, we didn't even have companions with us.
 We were just families - some of us were working.  There is a play that our children usually do that is the play by the crucification of Jesus Christ.  We heard that the boers were fighting with these children, our children.  But we can't find out  who was it exactly who did all this.
 If  I am not - if I am not mistaken there were two, these boers who did this to our children.  If somebody puts his arms up, he is actually giving up, he is giving himself up and he says that I am defenceless.  But the police kept on, he was my only son - he was the only one.  I can never forget - I can never forget him.  He has now three children, I am trying to struggle with his kids and his wife.  Sometimes they don't' even have money to go to school and while he was still alive he would sometimes get some casual jobs.
 And I am just staying at home, I am just knitting and crocheting and selling all those things to people so that we can have bread for the day.  Sometimes when he came back from this casual jobs he use to have, he gave me some money.  But now today I don't have anyone to do that for me.  I have - I have daughters, one is married  end of Tape 7, side A ... [a bit of information has gone astray during the changing of tapes] ...when I saw here on stage the day Mr Mandela was released, I saw all this on TV.  This all still hurts me now.  In 1985 we are still looking for our daughter who left that time.
 We don't even know where she is, no police came to me and I couldn't even go to the police that my daughter has just disappeared.  On the 4th of June 1987 my husband died.  He was taken by a - by [indistinct] at work, lots of horrible things happened to me.  I am living - I am living a horrible life.  My son has three children