DANIEL F DU TOIT BURGER
No.  At that stage, I cannot recall the date, but in any event, at that stage, I had been introduced, or I had already been pulled into the Regional Manager's structure and there, particularly their weekly meeting, and Mr Verster, at one of those meetings told me when he discussed his Region's things with me, because each Regional Manager discussed his matters with me separately, he came to me and said "I have the capacity in my Region to help Region 9 with the carrying out of a project".