SISI KHAMPEPE
Before he answers Mr van Rensburg, is there any evidence that he was the investigating officer in charge?  Isn't the evidence that Mr - I think Mr Ramushwana was the one who was charged with this kind of investigation and the person who worked immediately under him was Mr Ramaligela.  You would only be in charge in the absence of Mr Ramaligela.   So it would be unfair to put that kind of a question to him.  Rephrase your question.