MR VISSER
Thank you, Mr Chairman.  It's a very brief decision, it will take no time at all for you to read it.  And the relevant part, Mr Chairman, runs from page 5 - sorry - yes from page 5 to page 8.
	Mr Chairman, perhaps lastly, we were struck by some similarities between the present case, the facts of the present case and that of the one which you presided in concerning Mr Kondile.  You will recall, Mr Chairman, that in Kondile's case he was first arrested when he came across the Swazi border.  There was some suggestion under false pretences.  He was arrested by the Security Branch in Bloemfontein and then he was placed over to Port Elizabeth.  At Port Elizabeth he was assaulted and eventually he ostensibly agreed to become an informer.  Du Plessis was the person who dealt with him.  And he told you at the time that Mr Kondile indicated that he would become an informer and he, that is du Plessis, believed him, believed that he was genuine and started exposing some contact persons to him and some information routes, after which, on a particular day when du Plessis went to visit Kondile, he sat on his bed and he found a note which was written by Kondile and which was obviously intended to be smuggled out of the prison, in which he informed the ANC that he was assaulted and compelled to agree to become an informer, but that he wasn't going to become such an informer and that he would report to them the moment he is released.
	You will recall, Mr Chairman, that a decision was then taken together the then Brig van Rensburg and Gen Erasmus, and it was decided that in the circumstances they couldn't release him, they couldn't charge him and therefore they eliminated him.  And that decision, Chairperson, has also come to hand, it is under AC/99/0037, where you as I said before, were the Chairperson and where you were assisted by Judge Pillay and Adv Gcabashe and Adv de Jager.
	And we submit, Mr Chairman, that your decision in the Kondile matter finds application to a great extent in the present case, the only difference being that in this case Mr Cele did not indicate that he was prepared to become an informer after he was abducted, but apart from that and apart from the degree of the assault, Mr Chairman, there appears to be very little difference between the two matters.  And we would ask you in the light of the decision in Kondile's case, to favourably consider granting the amnesty as prayed for also in the present case.
	What was impressive, if I may say so Mr Chairman, about the decision in the Kondile case, is that it showed the insight of the Amnesty Committee in placing the assaults on Mr Kondile in proper perspective vis-a-vis his killing.  And that we found very interesting, Mr Chairman.  And again we say with respect, that we ask you with respect, to deal with the assault in this case albeit it of a far minor nature, in the same sense, Mr Chairman.  Would you grant me a moment please, Mr Chairman?