HENDRIK JOHANNES PETRUS BOTHA
Chairperson, Marthinus Ras is confusing two incidents here and describing it as one.  Firstly, regarding the fact that the intelligence operations spanned a period of two months, Mr Ras was here for a portion of that time, but there was an interruption of intermediate times when they would return to Pretoria for the exchange of askari teams.  The first occasion was a normal operation in which we seized a trained terrorist and turned this terrorist to be re-applied as an informer.  The second case was an existing informer who was used.  His leg was placed in plaster of Paris and he went under the codename of Spykerbeen.