MR VAN RENSBURG
Thank you Mr Chairman.  Okay, let's move on now.  You testified, and I see that I have to put my statements to you very carefully, you testified something to the effect of that, during the 1990's perhaps, I've got round about that time, not to be taken too seriously or too strictly on the time, the youths in this area took certain actions based on political motives and the reason why they took those actions was because they did not want to feel backward, and they did not want to be left out.  Is that correct?  Did you say, was that part of your testimony?