GEN VAN DER MERWE
I never had such a conversationwith him myself.  I mention it that now in retrospect as one attemptsto place the situation in perspective and while one is attemptingto determine how the entire matter developed it becomes clearthat this perception existed.  While the struggle, or in the heatof the struggle violence and for all practical purposes murderexisted these things happened.  It's unfortunate.  We were caughtup in meetings to try and see what one could do to counter thesituation that we never had the opportunity to go right on theground to see what
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109 GNL VAN DER MERWE
the situation was.  It's a sad fact that we wasted a lot of timesin meetings rather than having been in direct contact with ourpeople on the ground.  That would have been a far better ...(indistinct).