KHOZA MGOJO
Mama, this is a very painful and tough story.  Myself as a Christian who reads the Bible and who believes in Christianity, it reminds me of the words that I read which were uttered by a 33-year-old man, his name was Jesus, at the time that he was being tortured just before he got killed.  Jesus prophesied.  He looked at the woman and he looked at the children and when he saw a certain woman he said the woman should not cry for him but they should cry for themselves as well as their children.  When we look at the history of torture and violence or violation of human rights, we always come across women who have suffered and children who have also suffered.  This is a very painful situation.  The most disturbing part of this is that the very same policemen who were involved in killing people as well as human rights violations ia that presently they are occupying very high positions.  They're getting very high salaries and your children who were fighting for freedom, some of them died, some of them haven't even tasted this freedom that we have acquired.  Some are even not working but it is said that we are free.  We wish that the government could look into this.  I would like to ask you just a few questions because we want to straighten up certain issues.  When you started testifying you said there was a certain fight or  altercation that was taking place between the ANC and the IFP.  Where did these police come from.  Who were they fighting with or who were they fighting against and who were they helping because we were told that another part was an ANC stronghold and the other part was an IFP stronghold.  That is very clear.  Now, where do the police come from and where do they feature in the equation?  What are they all about?  