THEMBISILE MAJEBE
I hope that in front of you you do have my explanation or my application.  Mr Lucky August, what he did initially before he was seen at that site, he threatened Luyanda Zote, he threatened to kill Luyanda Zote.  If he is not there at his place he would kill his mother and cut off her breast and the breast would be put on top of the table, that would be a message.  When we saw him we had already got a report.  As we went there we went there to watch him.  It is clear that we went there to prevent him from attacking.