MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, Visser on record.  I have a difficulty now because obviously haven't had an opportunity of - not being pre-warned, to have discussed this issue with Mr Kopie for whom I appear in relationship to this client, this witness.  I don't think I could sensibly cross-examine him right now Mr Chairman.
	I don't know whether you want to allow the other persons around to ask their questions perhaps, but I will need time to go through the record to see what Mr Ngo and Mr Motsamai might have said about Mr Kopie being present, in order to bring that to your attention if it's important.