GIDEON JOHANNES NIEUWOUDT
At that stage we had a trained cadre in 
detention and we were busy interrogating him and he was supposed 
to make contact with the other members of his cell to infiltrate and I 
made use of that opportunities, the four deceased were also present 
during that interrogation.
	The trained person then wrote a letter for me in which he 
made contact with the contact person in Swaziland and I used a 
source as a courier to hand over this letter and the objective was 
that the ANC would give him the weapons with the view to the 
establishment of a DLB internally and to be able to exercise control 
over that.