MR SHEZI
That is so and even at that time, he did not even touch it.  Mr Chairman, I thought that maybe had he told these two legal representatives, they would surely have advised him, but you have committed no offence here, there is no point for you to apply any amnesty because as I indicated, even if he was charged, I do not believe that any competent or right-minded prosecutor will take this thing anywhere, even if is taken anywhere, it was not contested in court.
	I submit Mr Chairman, that his only purpose to bring an application here, it was merely to cover up and dispel any fear that there was any conspiracy from the higher-ups, in the higher echelon's of the C10 Vlakplaas unit.  His application with respect Mr Chairman, is nothing else but a farce.  One cannot understand why Nofomela would just out of the blue, out of whatever vendetta, however that vendetta might be defined, would place himself in the scene, implicate himself on a number of other charges, purely because he wants to get back at de Kock.  I submit, Mr Chairman, that there are far more serious issues, or there are far more many ways even, Nofomela said it before with regard to Mr de Kock, that he was going to take this incident as part of the thing.  The idea that de Kock was sleeping when this whole thing happened, that he never knew anything about it, I submit, Mr Chairman just doesn't make sense.  
	Finally Mr Chairman, shortly after the incident in Chesterville, the shooting, they left.  That whole crew left Durban, they abandoned the main purpose why they came down here i.e. to search for the killers of the Security Policemen, because of the incidence in Chesterville, they just abandoned it and went back.  The people who came to conduct such a search, by their own admission, they had no investigative skills.  These were murder cases, whether of Security policemen or Municipality policemen, they were murder cases, local policemen ought to have been involved, local C I D's ought to have been involved, but they weren't part of it.  I submit a specialised unit was sent to Chesterville to carry out a certain .... (intervention) mission i.e. to kill comrades, i.e. to kill the people that had been assembled at that point in time.  I submit, Mr Chairman that, as I said earlier on, that application by Mr Nofomela in particular, is nothing else but a farce, this is not a Commission of Inquiry, one may add, however Mr Nofomela's application highlights the fact that there were more other forces at play, de Kock and the others were involved.  Those are all my submissions, Mr Chairman.