GEORGE BIZOS
General, I'm going to read to you a passage from the judgment of His Lordship, Mr Justice Stegman, in the Webb Inquest - Webster - it was because I was looking at the document, I didn't intend to be disrespectful to you, Mr Webb - in the Webster Inquest, at page 118 of the finding I want to read to you the following.  I want you to listen carefully because my question is going to be "Does His Lordship's judgment of the credibility of the members of the CCB, apply to you, and is the same happening here?"  Listen carefully.
"At this point I digress to observe that I have at various stages of this Inquest, had occasion to realise that several of the witnesses are trained, skilled and experienced in the art of deception.  They are, to put it bluntly, professional liars.  They make their living out of deception.  This is certainly true of Verster and the pseudo ...(indistinct) Luitingh and of Barnard.  Indeed it must be true to a great extent, of everyone who has worked as an operative for the CCB.  They have all been required to appear to have one occupation, the so-called front, whilst their main concerns have been their covert activities.  They are all aware of the need for apparently independent corroboration of whatever untruthful proposition they wish to have accepted for the truth, and they plan accordingly.  The so-called corroboration becomes as suspect as the proposition itself.  They are accomplished in the art of secret conspiracy.  When conflicts emerged between them, as happened in some instances, they showed themselves ...(indistinct) resourceful in falling back on other propositions which may themselves be nothing more than even more deeply laid conspiracies of falsehood.  In their world conflicting allegations by no means to be assumed to be conflicts between the truth and falsehood.  They just as easily could be conflicting falsehoods.  The truth lies very deeply buried and the task of those engaged in trying to expose it to view, is no easy one.  So it is with regard to the reasons why and the purposes for which Verster recruited Barnard to the outer circle of the CCB.  Of the various versions I have been given, I doubt whether any reveals the whole truth.  None of those versions touch on Barnard's character."
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