MR VISSER
Yes.  It is not really quite that simple Mr Chairman because part his answers, probable answers in cross-examination is going to rely on these dates.  I thought it may be just better to spend a little time, just let him give this evidence but if you - I'm quite willing to do it that way Mr Chairman, as long as he's not criticised for it later.
	The affidavit which you gave, did ...[intervention]