GARY JOHN KRUSER
I think we never explained, what happened - I think I should just explain to give you an understanding of what happened on that day.  The initial deployment of people under normal was done by Andrew Rishlabane who was the head of installations as I explained.  Subsequent to that I - when I got down I was not happy because people, every time marchers came, people were running quite wildly around, there was no organisation because many people were joining from the other sectors of our department security.  I then called another meeting of all the commanders itself and deployed commanders in various positions with groups of people with them, one on the right flank, on the left flank, one immediately, one in the foyer etc.  When the surveillance units, Eddie Khumalo and Mondli Zuma came back to me round - after and reported they had been shot at - I went together with them to the corner and because of my seniority I automatically took commander over the commander who was supposed to be in command at that place.