MR WILLS
Sorry Mr Visser, Mr Chairperson, just a matter that needs to be dealt with in view of the fact that Mr Botha's going.  Apparently there is some informal arrangement being made for him to meet with the brother of the deceased Shabalala.  I'd like him to, I believe they've agreed, my client has agreed, I don't have a chance to tell him that now, but if that could take place before he leaves.