MR DU PLESSIS
Mr Chair, it was my instructions that the matter regarding Mr Sebotsa's brother does not have anything to do with this incident.  I cannot take this matter any further, but I can put it to you that it is, in fact, the case that the Sebotsa we are dealing with here and about whom this application is has nothing to do with these facts.  I do not know what the relevance could be except if my learned friend could inform me, perhaps, about that.