DR BORAINE
Chairperson before I call the next witness I would just like to identify some people who have joined us.  In no particular order, Sisters of the Order of the Holy Paraclete, we are very thrilled to have you with us.  Representatives from the Indonesian Embassy.  And I've been asked by the SABC, who are covering these hearings, that when we identify people that if you would be kind enough to stand, so just for a moment if you wouldn't mind if the sisters would mind standing and then also the representative from the Indonesian Embassy, thank you very much, you may be seated.  I gather there's a representative from the American Consulate, if you are here perhaps you wouldn't mind standing as well.  Oh there we are, thank you very much indeed.  Also an old friend, Judge Fikile Bam, President of the Land Court, I am not sure where he is.  Oh right over here.  Also a notorious Robben Island graduate, now a judge.  The country has changed.  There are some school children up above there.  I am not sure which school you are from but we are delighted.  We believe that it's very important that the proceedings of the Commission should be made known to all institutions and we are always grateful to see young people.  Thank you for coming.
 Chairperson I call as the next witness to appear before the Commission Mrs Nombulelo Makhubu, if you would come 
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forward please.  Mrs Makhubu would you mind putting on the headphones in order so that we can talk with each other.  Can you tell me whether you can hear my voice through the earphones?