MR LAX
Sorry, before you do.
	 I'm just a bit puzzled Mr van Zyl, it seems to me that you guys got all this training, you had all the instructions and when it suited you, you just disobeyed them.  I'll go back to what you said yesterday.  You broke certain rules, you didn't break other rules.  You can't even remember as you sit here today, exactly who was present and who wasn't, you can't tell us at all with any degree of certainty, whether this statement in this affidavit is correct or not correct.  You have no recollection of it.  So I don't understand why you're being so adamant about it.  You broke your own rules when it suited you, you didn't break them when it didn't suit you.  How can you with any degree of absolute certainty in your heart, tell us that this is exactly what happened on that day, when you can't remember this incident at all.  You can't remember this meeting, that's pretty obvious to me.