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Chairperson thank you, there are two matters on which I would like to hear Mr Rhamaphosa's comments.  The first one deals with the question of a possible ambush.  Mr Rhamaphosa you will note that the three enquiries into this matter, the Pickhard Commission, the Goldstone Commission and the CDF Board of Enquiry.  I know that the Pickhard Commission did not co-operate with and the CDF Board of Enquiry did not co-operate with, but Goldstone as well, all reject the possibility of an ambush.  You seem to be quite convinced that there was a clearly, carefully, intelligently planned ambush.  I would like to hear your comment on why these three enquiries have rejected that theory.
 The second question is on the question of the break-away led by, in your submission, by Mr Kasrils and Mr Hani.  You are aware that Mr Kasrils has been criticised by all these Commissions - Pickhard of course which you would expect because you did not submit to them but Goldstone as well, criticises Mr Kasrils almost individually for this break-away.
 Your submission to the Commission today is that this was an ANC position, thoroughly discussed, thoroughly canvassed and it was an implementation of an agreed upon strategy.  Did you submit this to Goldstone and why did Goldstone ignore it?  We will of course raise the question with him as well at a later date.