CHAIRPERSON
Yes.  Mr van Eck I'd just like to say we appreciate what you have said this morning.  We understand fully the tragedy that you have suffered and that you are still indeed suffering and we feel for you very strongly.  I can't comment on the question of the reparations, that is dealt with by another Committee, but we believe that that process has not been concluded, and we would also like to express our sincerest sympathies to your whole situation and also to the family of the de Nysschens.  We appreciate it.  Thank you very much.
	Mr Wagener?