MR MOERANE
That is so.  That is so.  At the relevant time, not necessarily on the day or the day before, it might have even the weeks before.  His function was to supply materials to these persons.  He was not involved in the planning or execution of the act but because there might be a possibility that devices furnished by him were used in this incident he is applying for amnesty on that basis, Chairperson.
	And just to complete the picture with regard to applicant Dlomo, I respectfully refer the learned Committee to the judgement in the Buthelezi matter in bundle 2 from pages 239 up to 242.  The applicant accepts the findings in that judgement and the reason for the findings.
	Chairperson, I now move on to applicant Sibosiso Mbongwa, also known as Sihle, S I H L E.  I respectfully refer the learned Committee to annexure 2, pages 46 to 47.  In the matter of State vs Buthelezi, the present applicant went by the name of Sibosiso Robert Ndlandzi.  He is accused number 4 in the trial and allegations against him appear in the same bundle at pages 46 and ...(intervention)