JABULANI KHUMALO
No I'm saying we will use optionally that are there but we are not forced that we do it on that.  In this case if we reported by telephone which means you went into the pay phones you would have done that but I'm saying that in general that, because this is a general question of accountability, that we were working under a guerilla - a very serious painful way of communication.  Our communication was not easy as supposed to be like now we have cellulars and things like that.  We were - the report goes, optionally that counts like phones, telephones you are talking about, tickie box telephones, cannot come and use my phone because it could be traced.