RICHARD MPAGAMESENE DLAMINI
I said two gentlemen came, Vusi and Pongulwana.  They came as we were playing a game.  They came to tell us that there was a young man from the township who was there at the place where the two gentlemen were washing the cars.
	We asked them what was he saying, what was it that the young man was saying.  They did not tell us anything but they said we must come with them to listen to this gentleman.  
	We went to that place and they asked him questions in Sotho and they later interpreted to us because we did not understand the Sotho language.  He said he was sent by the African National Congress to come and inspect the place inside the hostel, as to how he can plant the bombs.
	We later took him - we then took him to the IFP Committee.  We handed them over to that committee.  They communicated with him and we left him there.  After some time we heard that he admitted to everything that was said by the two gentlemen.  
	Fortunately he came at a time where there was going to be a conference in Ulundi.  He was then taken - the people who were going to the conference took him with to Ulundi to the conference.  The matters was reported, the others were told about him.  I was not there at that conference.
	They brought him back again.  He stayed there inside the hostel.  As to when did he leave the hostel I do not know.  He was still young at the time and when I saw him here he was a bit older.