MR LE ROUX
And after that those two came to me and they spoke, they were looking for somebody who knew the Johannesburg area very well.  But here I would just like to say something.  On Barnard's farm I met Barnard and he and I spoke, it was the first meeting I had with Barnard and he and I talked there and because I knew that he worked at head office and he was highly regarded I made myself available to him with regard to any task he wanted done.