MR MARTINI
Chairperson, just for the record, Mr Bizos is putting to the witness the Section 29 statement and I mentioned yesterday I don't want to keep on objecting to versions that were put because we'll be here for another five weeks and if do remain silent ...  That's not what I recall Mr van Zyl's evidence at these hearings was, what is read from the Section 29 statement.  But that's what I'm trying to avoid because we're going to have to sit here with the record every day if Mr Bizos wants to put versions.  This is the difficulty which we have, 'cause we're not computers and memorising word for word that was said after all these weeks.  So as far as I recollect, and that's the furthest I can take it, it was not Mr van Zyl's evidence.  He did say that - what I recall was that it was foreseen that there could be a possibility of injury or loss of life, but in terms of the words contained in the Section 29 statement.
	The difficulty I'm having, Chairperson, is I don't want to object each time Mr Bizos tries to put a version because we're going to be here for days and I'm sure, Chairperson, you also have a difficulty trying to recollect and say "Well that's not really what the witness said."  That's the difficulty we have.