MR RAUTENBACH
I'm not trying to ask you something that's there to confront you, I'd just like you to look at page 390, page 390, in the middle of the page, you are asked by the chairman of the section 29 committee, you're asked the following, she refers to the use of the inner tubes, dan se jy
"I have knowledge of this, where the so-called tube method was used."
This tube method, what exactly was that, could you tell us?