MR MARTINDALE
Yes that is right, he was Chairperson. I was just putting it on the record that, that issue was raised. And I submit that as regards the final element, the full disclosure element I submit that the applicant has made a full disclosure. He is mentioned that he was involved in the stabbings and actively participated in the tying of the hands of one of the deceased.
	As far as Dlala is concerned he does not know anything about it. And that can be a full disclosure in this particular case. He has got nothing to gain by not associating himself with it. In fact he might have more to gain had he said that he did participate. But I submit that he is being honest when he has come along and I submit that in respect of all three cases he has made a full disclosure and he has made out a case for amnesty.