GIDEON JOHANNES NIEWOUDT
I don't know, it must have been decided beforehand amongst the Officers, I wasn't present when that was decided.
	Why I am saying that is the fact that two weeks afterwards, Mr Goosen called us in again and asked us whether any one of us had seen any marks on Mr Biko, any wounds.  He then also said that apparently Mr Biko had injured himself in the prison and Wilken then said, yes, he had noticed the mark when he was guarding him.
	So as far as I can recall, he was the only one who made a statement to that effect.  That is why none of us made a statement saying that we had seen that scar.