ISGAK HARDIEN
I'll be with you in a moment.   Mr Williams, I understand your point, but I just wanted to consult with my legal representative and what I want to explain to you is that I never saw a bomb go off or anything like that.  Whenever there was a case of arson in Belgravia, I always saw some of your members there, but I cannot say that they did it.  Perhaps you understand what I mean now.