MR DE JAGER
According to him he was in Pretoria - he was abducted on the 19th.  He would have been brought to Pretoria say round about the 20th or the 21st, and he was again taken back to Lothair round about the 25th, and he arrived at Lothair on the 26th, so it was only a period of five days, six days in Pretoria.  