TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  The elder one he was doing B Ped.  That was going to be his second year.  The other one he's at the technical college.  He was doing management at technical college, personnel management.  But he is still trying, but now he is also going to stop because he doesn't even have books.  He will try to look for an employment so that he can still further his own studies once he is working.  But he is still at school now.