CHAIRPERSON
Well in this regard should we not also have regard to evidence led at other applications held before this Committee.  I cannot recollect the exact date of the bombing of Cosatu House, it was in May 1987 as I recollect, I can't remember the precise date.  But the officer who conducted that attack gave evidence before us saying he enquired into the instructions he was given because it was the first illegal attack the police had been asked to perform within the country.  Up till then all their illegal attacks had been on ANC bases and personnel outside the country, so I would think that it was, is a consideration that we should have regard that the war was not only one-sided at that time, the South African Police, on the evidence given by a very competent and senior policeman in this regard were conducting attacks aimed at killing people outside and damaging property outside the Republic prior to this - at about this time and prior to this time.