GRATINA NINELA
One of my daughters asked me to go with the other two daughters.  They were staying in one place.  Three of us were to go to Durban to meet somebody call Mr Mhlodi.  When we got to Durban, one of the daughters had a number, phone number, to phone Mr Mhlodi to tell him that we have arrived and she did it.  And when she had phoned she told us that he said, Mr Mhlodi said we must wait, he will be coming with a car.  He gave her a description of the car.  In a few minutes time that car drove near us and she said, my daughter said "That is the car".  So we went to that car.  Off we went.  We were on Smith Street.  We stopped by the ...(indistinct) Park, out of the car we went and we sat down.  It was the first time I heard the news that my son was no more alive.