MR KRUGER
I would appreciate it if I could just say something to clear this up because as you know, some of these persons are involved with the TRC and I would just like to get clarity here.  I would like to say a few things because we have not had the opportunities to clear this out in detail.  To avoid that this panel has to repetitively hear this matter, I would not want you to say anything that comes down, or has the effect of evidence, do we understand each other?  What I would propose and I wish to inform you, there is just something I want to discuss with my colleagues.