MR KNOETZE
The same for the section in page 289 where Mr Van der Schyff said to you:  "When you told this to your fellow applicants, when you referred to the start of the revolution:  this was the real McCoy, there had to be corpses, did you convey this in your capacity as commander in this region?".  I retract that statement of Mr Van der Schyff, he does not support that anymore.  If I can refer you to EXHIBIT 5, that is the amended application for amnesty by Marthinus Lodewickes van der Schyff.  The manner in which it was complied was that the passages underlined must be inserted into the original and that the parts in-between in brackets must be taken out.  If we for example look at page 3, the third paragraph, then you will see that he's evidence will be that the instruction to work entailed that there must be a roadblock and - page 3, paragraph 3 Milord of the amended application of amnesty.  That is EXHIBIT 5.  May I proceed Mr Chairman?  I refer you once again to paragraph 3 on page 3.  The content of that paragraph is as follows:  that Mr Van der Schyff at the Road Cafe did not know what the work for the evening would be.  Could you comment on that please?  That is was only said later what the work would be.