MR J VAN ZYL
Well, I do not know how it was when Mr Winter was in Cradock, when we were in the operational area.
	The problem is that when one is in the operational area, one is a member of a combat team and it would happen sometimes that even Mr de Kock and I wouldn't see each other for quite a while, because we were constantly moving in and out of various areas where we worked.
	It wasn't always easy to summarise how different people got along with one another.  I had no reason not to believe that they didn't get along with one another.