MR LAX
Thank you, Chairperson.
	Mr Thulo, just for your benefit and comment I want to tell you what Mr Jantjie said with regard to the collection of Betty Boom.  He said they - and let me just put this in context for you first.  After there were suspicions about Betty Boom being an informer within the ANC, in other words the ANC had suspicions and your unit got wind of that, it was decided that she would be brought to the farm and that it would be made to look like an abduction.  That was the plan that was hatched and that's what he testified to, and he testified in particular that you were present when that plan was discussed.  What do you say about that?