FRANCISCO CERQUEIRA
Not going up no, there was no sounds at all when the car was going up.  The car was going up, nothing happened, they slowed down at our door, the car went up, after the car disappeared - you must regard a very small door, so we can't really see all the way up to Heidelberg Tavern.  The car went past our door and a couple of minutes after that, that's when I heard the first two popping sounds.