SIMON MORRIS
Yes, I did that.  Automatically the trouser would then go down because the trouser did not even have a zip.  They then went to the private parts with a pliers, taking turns in - I don't know what I can call it, torture and they seemed to enjoy it very much because the one would say no you did not do it well, give it to me I will do it much better.  The other one will then say this is not the way to do it because there was one stage where the scrotal sac - I hope you understand what I am saying because the two balls - the one person was trying to just to open this pliers and then crush it.