CHAIRPERSON
He went further in his oral evidence, and I can't recall and I say the legal representatives should help me in this instance, and my Committee Members, he never said that other things you had to know on a need-to-know basis only.  There were things in other words, which were kept away from you. You operated as a unit of four.  For instance with Betty Boom, she was identified, it was identified that she had financial problems and this was the best way of getting to Betty Boom, to take advantage of her dire financial straits.  Did you know such information about Betty Boom?