CHAIRPERSON
I think that we were told that this was a casual meeting they had with Cassandro, and without all the documents and this was a casual meeting, and one can understand that in a casual meeting of this kind, these points that you raise may not have been canvassed and they may well be crucial.   The Committee will take a short adjournment to consider this position.  Is there any indication as to when Mr Cassandro is likely to be here? Can  you tell us?