MR TIPP
I'm not sure what you mean by that Mr Mhlaba.  Can I just put it to you again.  In front of you there was a group with many hundred-strong under the charge of Induna Mbatha.  Behind that there was a second group, you were in that group.  As you approached the intersection, the front group was stopped and Induna Mbatha said become one group, and the front of your group went up to the back of the first group.  Is that what happened?