CHAIRPERSON
Mr Mgxaji, I don't want to be rude to you, but I don't need you to tell me what I am here for.  I am just trying to put into perspective what your job is, without telling you that.  In these hearings, applicants generally come and say that I am guilty of murder and I am looking for amnesty.   If you are opposing it on behalf of families, on one or other basis, let us get to the crux of the matter.