AZHAR CACHALIA
Mr Mpongosi you told us about what had happened on the Saturday morning as you were coming from the Jukskei River.  And your confrontation with Mr Majola.  And then you told us about a meeting with the people on the sports field, with spears and whatever else they might have.  When was the first confrontation with the Majola incident when you were coming up from the Jukskei River?