MR KAHANOVITZ
Mr van Zyl, would you in the same statement go to page 39, paragraph 77 and possibly explain these sentences to the Committee?  You are talking in paragraph 77 about the in-house concerning the Early Learning Centre and you deal with the plans.
	Then you say -
"... Gakkie at this stage had already in principle agree to help with placing the limpet mine.  During the in-house a budget had also been attached.  Gakkie would receive R30 000-00 for his part."
	Now I asked you to confirm that, I think it was this morning or yesterday, you said that that was indeed true as stated there, correct?