JOHANNES HENDRIK VAN DYK
If it pleases your Chairperson, I think the reason as set out by Captain Erwee in his application, I think he gave a written explanation to you and I associate myself with that.
	I don't think we can really link up these two incidents.  The one the conspiracy, the collusion between myself and Erwee was to protect other colleagues' lives, it is not to keep them out of prison.