MR MOERANE
That is so, Chairperson.  The next applicant is Mr Sibongiseni Dlomo.  Applicant 6389/97.  Chairperson, I'll be referring the Committee to bundle 2.  Now this particular applicant was accused number 2 in the filed State vs Buthelezi and he will be applying for amnesty in respect of the matters referred to in the annexure to the charge sheet on page 35, pages 35 up to 37.  Page 35 of bundle 2, paragraph 1 and paragraph 13 on page 37 and that in about August 1985 he trained accused number 12 in the case and one Frank Malungu at Alan Taylor residence in the use of limpet mines, explosives and handgrenades and paragraph 14 on the same page that in about September 1985 he went to Ngwavuma where he fetched three trained members of the ANC including accused number 4 and brought them to the Durban area.
	I also refer the learned Committee to page 241 of the same bundle.  From the second paragraph which reads as follows, paragraph 23 of annexure B alleges that accused number 2 established or assisted in establishing a dead letter box near Umhlazi.  The evidence in support of this allegation proves that accused number 2 pointed out an area before the Executive Hotel in Umhlazi on the 2nd January 1986 and that as a result of the pointing out, a bag containing explosives and explosive devices was discovered in the area and what follows on that right up to page 242 which amounted to a conviction in respect of possession of those explosives and explosive devices with the intent to commit acts or violence in furtherance of the aims of the ANC and to overthrow the State authority in the Republic by means of violence.  He will be applying for amnesty in respect of that conviction.
	And may I with respect refer the learned Committee to bundle 1, various incidents in that bundle.  I'll refer to incidents 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13.
	Incident 8 being the explosion at Durban OK Bazaars, West Street, on the 27th September 1985. 
	In the incident number 9 being the limpet mine explosion at Game Discount World between West and Pine Street on the same day.
	Incident number 10, being an explosion at Spar Foodliner, West Street, Durban, on the same day, 27th September 1985.
	Incident 11, being an explosion at Checkers, Smith Street, Durban, on the same day.
	Incident 12, being an explosion at the Executive Hotel, Umhlazi, on the following day 28th September 1985.
	And Incident 13, being an incident wherein two persons who had in their possession a limpet mine were killed in the blast that occurred then at the Grosvener Girls School on the Bluff on 24th October 1985.
	The applicant is applying for amnesty in respect of these incidents.  His attitude though being that he is not certain whether or not the explosive devices which he supplied to various persons were actually used on the occasions specified but because there is a possibility that besides explosive devices were or might have been used ex abundante cautela he is applying for amnesty in respect of those incidents.