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If De Kock or Marthinus Ras had told me 
beforehand that there were going to be children in the house 
and that we were going to shoot them, and if he told me I 
had to do it, I would have told them I won't.  But as I have 
testified I would still have gone with.  I am sorry about 
these children who were shot.  I don't know, I don't even 
know how old they were. I also don't know whether or not 
they gave the terrorists staying over there that night, if 
they gave them food. I didn't know anything beforehand, but 
as I have already said if they had told me that I was to 
shoot those children I would not have done it.