MR MALAN
Is that the Reverend?  Thank you.  The translation is not getting to my headphones.  So the information, I mean this is very difficult to understand, because the information in your statement says that your son, Jabu, was walking in the street.  This Mr Botha, who is the police officer, walks up to him, tells him he is a racist and full of apartheid and he shoots him.  I mean that is the information before us.  That is very difficult to understand without a broader context.  Do you have more information as to the context or should we speak to Mr Mokwena?