MR WILLS
Yes.  Now I've consulted with my client and whilst his memory is that the order was to go to Mbazwana, he's not going to take issue whether that was Mbazwana or Pongola, the fact of the matter is that you met at some police station and you continued with the operation.  My client is of the view that when he first saw the person who was pointed out to him as being a double agent, that this person appeared to be sedated.  You've commented that as far as you're concerned, you didn't give him any drugs.  How did he appear to you the morning at the police station, at you say the Pongola police station?