ABRAHAM CHRISTOFFEL FOURIE
Mr Chairperson I am in this situation, I'm not making apologies.  You expect me to tell you the truth and that is what I'm trying to do, I want to give you the truth and that's the story Chairperson.  If I must give account I must take responsibility because I was part of the group and we had to fight this battle against the elections then I admit it, I was part of the struggle but there were things I did not know about and I simply did not know about them Chairperson.