MR BRINK
I am going to ask you to comment on the account given by your co-applicant, Luyanda Ntikinca.  I will read Mr Chairman and members of the Panel from page 58, from the second line.
	The car started to give us mechanical problems.  While we were concentrating on that, both policemen disarmed one member of our unit, guarding them.  They succeeded and shot him, they then ran away.
	Do you hear that?