MS PATEL
Thank you.  To move on to another point then. Just generally, my learned colleague, Mr Williams, Brent Williams, has touched on it.  Just in terms of the weapons at the scene, from the data that we have and just from various applications that other people have made, that it was part of the modus operandi at Vlakplaas that in certain instances when an operation needed to be covered up, that weapons were planted at bodies.  What is your comment?