MR WILLS
You say and here I refer you to paragraph 17 at page 9 of the record that the B.S.I. of the KwaZulu Police as well as the IFP leadership in that specific area would identify the ANC leaders and the names of those identified would be given to M.Z. Khumalo, Brigadier Mate and so on?  Who is Brigadier Mate, I think we haven't really had his name mentioned extensively?