TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  When we were staying at Ntuzuma Training, that is the forest, Shabalala came at night on a Monday.   He was driving a car and he was being escorted, they stood by the road and the house was illuminated outside but inside it was dark.   They went away and came back in the morning, and Shabalala told us that he had come during the night and that he foresaw that we were going to shoot him because he did not know why we had left Lindelani and he knew nothing about our leaving Lindelani.   I told him that he was supposed to know because Amabutho did not just act all by themselves, they were given specific instructions to do certain things.  Whenever people have been pointed out to them, they would go to attack those particular persons.   Then Mhlongo who was an MP from Mapumulo, Mhlongo came to me in the forest where I was staying.  he said he had been sent by Buthelezi to come and ask us as to why we were staying in the forest, then I explained it to him.   Then it was said that the minister had said that we should move away from that place, we should take the children and he wanted us to move to Section G in KwaMashu.   I declined the offer because we are not the first ones who were being harassed by members of Amabutho and some lost their lives and we do not know how.   And I said to him I totally decline the offer because I did not trust them.   Then we moved to Brighton Beach and we could not stay there because of the telephone calls that we kept on receiving.  And Reverend Shembe said I should go back home.   Then we went to Shembe's place, that's where we stayed.   