CHAIRPERSON
The question was, what he's getting at Mr Dastile is, because of your brother's reaction, you go and tell him, you go to your brother and say, look, these IFP members are making threatening remarks about throwing out the Xhosa, Pondo and Bata, the ANC people, and your brother says, this is usual, it's common, don't worry about it.  He's saying to you, he's putting it to you, that your brother's attitude indicates that there may have been tensions, or there were tensions between the IFP and ANC before, because of that attitude, they must have previously insulted the ANC members.  It's indicative of a previous tension between the IFP and ANC.  What do you say to that?