MR MBANDAZAYO
Mr Chairperson if I can answer this way.  The applicant has the liberty to say it was one of he people he mentioned that he was with who stabbed him but he did not do that and both of them died.  If he wanted to convince the Committee or to lie to the Committee and say look one of the applicants who happened to die did stab the victim, but he's not saying that.
	I don't think Mr Chairperson he's protecting Mr Biko.  Mr Chairperson just for the benefit of the Committee I happened to meet Mr Biko in Butterworth because I was trying to get to the whole truth of this matter and I was trying to - even before the dead line, I was trying to assist people to apply for amnesty and he's one of the people I approached to apply for amnesty.  Unfortunately Mr Chairperson he couldn't apply for amnesty.  What he told me was that he can't apply for amnesty because he does not want to lie because he would be lying to the Committee to say that he was there, yet he was not there, just because he wants to get off and that was there reason he explained to me he ran away because he cannot confess because he was never there.
	So I wouldn't know, I won't be able Mr Chairperson to throw some light, to say he's protecting him in that aspect.  Mr Biko had an opportunity -  I can even tell the Committee I happened to speak to him about this matter and he totally refused, that's what he told me, that you need to confess.  Now if I'm confessing I'm confessing to something which I did not do.