GERRIT NICHOLAS ERASMUS
That is so.  The decision was taken at a later stage and the reporting took place about  or started about 10 days before the time but I was not satisfied with the information obtained at that stage and I said: "Look, bring me everything, all the information that you have regarding these people" and that's how matters continued for a while.  And I can't say what happened on day 7 or day 8 or what specifically happened on each day but the final decision was taken closer to this date of the 14th.