CHAIRPERSON
The second incident, the Batong incident, in that one, it came out particularly when the applicant was being questioned by Mr Lax, he said Pat came and asked them from whence these attacks were being launched by the Inkatha people, where did they come from, where did they stay, point out the place, and he pointed out the place across the river, over there, they come across the river.
	That is their houses up on the hill there.  Pat then says okay, I want you to get people to assist us, we are going to go and attack them.  He then attempts to get people, they say no, our policy is we fight on our own ground, we fight in self defence, we are not pro-active.
	Then when being questioned by Mr Lax, he said look, why did you not say to Pat it is not our policy, we fight on our own ground.  He said no, he couldn't tell Pat that, because Pat came from another SDU, from another area and they've got their own policies.  He didn't know that they were going there and indiscriminately kill people.  He didn't know what they would do.  All I did was to respond to his question, and I pointed it out.
	Now, taking that into account, is he guilty of any offence at all other than not going to the police to say, look one of his comrades is going to launch an attack, which is taking it a bit over the top?