MS NYEMBEZI
I know mamma - Ms Zweni very much, we've been together for a long time.  We grew up together while we were still at Tani -  we were brought here by sufferings.
About the bodies she's talking about, she's telling the truth.  I was counting them myself, there were 175.  I was counting these bodies myself and NY5, those were the ones that happened overnight.  We made a decision to talk to one of the members of Parliament at CI at the Black Sash office, but now we were told to come the following morning.
We were called to talk to one of the members of the Parliament.  We talked to him or her, there a woman was Ms Helen Suzmann.  It was me, Zantsi - Ms Thesapi  - Ms Mazula  we went to count these graves, then we came to report.  And she asked us are you sure about these - are you sure about these graves.  We said yes.
We said we were now sitting at the place that is now called Barcelona.  Now that we are the African National Congress we told them that  we don't  those trees there, because those trees are covering up all those graves.   They said - we said now those - these trees are covering up even the smell of those bodies that are there.  They just kept quite when we wanted to ask them how can you hear, how can you smell something that is underground.
Ms Suzmann told us that something like this will not happen again.  She said go home, where are you going to work tomorrow.  We said we are going to start at Pinelands, after Crossroads.  Really and we did that, we were CHACO, that was the first organisation - we were working very hard  end of Tape 5, side A ... but the bodies is so much, so Father Rhamsy  and just - she sat over us.  He sat over us, he - you - that have beat me up instead of these woman.
Now the police left, when the police left we made as if we were going home.  And then in the morning we went to Crossroads and we worked hard there.  We came back by the National Road, we didn't want to go - we didn't want to take the road between the houses.
Then we went back and we sat there in that place.  And we talked - we talked about these things to the - with the other cadres.  We just said what we are going to do now, is to fight for the freedom.  Now obviously people cannot just beat us up as if - we started with the - we started at the office.  We thought this people are not well on their heads because - because of the way they beat us up.
We went up the shopping centres, we went to Ben de Goosen ?? from there we burnt  the post office, from there we burnt The Pig, from there we burn the police station.  We took a loaf of bread and just water that we - we fetch with a bottle and then we ate that.  We didn't eat the whole day, myself and this woman next to me.  She lost her child, she doesn't even know now where her child is.
Even after that, she said comrade I am leaving, she said.  I said where are you going, she said I don't know.  It's only now that I see her, she left for exile.  That's the end, I don't want to say to much, because I also - I also have my own case.  That's my mother over there she is the one who made me somebody in this world.
That mother over - that woman over there Mary, she is the one who really helped me out.  I didn't have a house, Mary over there and others helped me with a house that I have now.  I didn't have parents, she - that is the mother - the woman who helped me with everything.  
Those people from The Black Sash. I am somebody today because of that Black Sash.  They are the ones who helped me, to have something to eat,  Sister Townsend and everybody else and all, they were helping Mary and others to make me somebody.  Don't say anything to me about the Black Sash, I will die for Black Sash.
Today I have a house because of those woman.  Those are my parents.