BERNARD MWELASE
Col Taylor was present at that scene, but we left him there and we got into the kombi and went about our business and were still discussing this matter.   When we returned to the base in Verulam, we met Larry, Sgt Larry Hattingh as well as Warrant Myeza and Mr Brown.  Mr Brown was a South African Police member, a black member, whose nickname was Mr Brown and he would normally drive us from Pretoria to Durban.  We had a discussion about someone who had survived this explosion who was apparently the brother to the deceased.  It was planned that we were to meet this person.  In fact we first went to the hospital to see this young man and we discovered that he had shrapnel all over his face, his face was swollen and he was seriously injured and Col Taylor asked this young man who had given him the limpet mine and the boy indicated that it had been given to them by Mr Ninela.  From what I could surmise, it appeared that Mr Myeza was not sure of how to get hold of this person and we had to come up with a plan of how to abduct this person and it was at that point planned that we would pretend to be MK cadres because if he was approached by the police, he might divulge everything and that is why we decided that we would go to him, explain to him that we are going to take him out of the country.  The plan was that he was going to be told that he was going to be taken out of the country because of the weapon that he had given to these other boys.
	We then went to his place and it was Myeza who drove the vehicle and I was with Stanley as well.  Stanley and myself went into the house, we found him with his girlfriend.  I cannot identify this person.  We introduced...(intervention)