PUMELELE CIVILIAN HERMANS
All these things were brought by the workers, they were problems of the workers.  Because there were rumours that Costello was a member of the AWB, we then tried to investigate from the workers so that we can get more information because we were interested in that because we had heard rumours that he was a member of the AWB.
	Even though we didn't get concrete evidence that those were weapons and the situation is as they were putting it to us, but we saw that when we were having meetings, there were a lot of cars around that would leave at night, and we would combine what the workers told us, together with what was happening.  That showed us that even though we were not sure, there was something like that, that maybe he was a member of the AWB and there were weapons which were coming to that area.