CHAIRPERSON
Yes thank you, Mr Bizos and Mr Kahanovitz, we've got it, the addendum relating to the word "satisfied".  Yes, we do have that.  And we also go the annexures to Mr du Plessis' argument as well this morning, the Indemnity Act and
the Decision relating to the application of Williamson.  Have the applicants' legal representatives amongst them decided who is going to argue first?  From our point of view we have no problems who commences.