GIDEON JOHANNES NIEWOUDT
Mr Chairman, he was interrogated.  It is not as Mr Bizos put it that no questions were put to him.  Questions were indeed put to him, he was confronted for instance with the inflammatory pamphlets.
	The pamphlet doesn't say how people were killed, but reference were made to people being killed, and that was all part of the conflict of the past.  So, you can't argue in the way that Mr Bizos is, to say that just because there was a bomb, there was no conflict in the past.  No, what about acts of sabotage?
	The people had not yet left the country at that stage, they hadn't yet had the opportunity to complete their training and come back and plant bombs.  What could they use, they had to manufacture petrol bombs, and they used stones and sticks and kieries.  People were killed, it doesn't matter what the method was.
	I don't think the Act requires of me to have or to prove that I followed a certain method before it can be said to have had a political objective.  I was there to suppress and neutralise that which Mr Biko's organisation was responsible for propagating in the country at that stage.