MR HATTINGH
I do not accept that, but I appreciate the argument, but at the same time I do not think one can take that incident or take part of the documentation or the formal application away from this hearing.  It should be part of the hearing.  One may be restricted to a particular incident and say, "Well, you're not entitled, this is going to form part of a later hearing.  You're not allowed to cross-examine on that incident", but you cannot take it out of the formal documentation and substitute it with something else, with another source or from another nature.