MR MBANDAZAYA
Can I proceed, Mr Chairman, or is it still on the floor?   Thank you, Mr Chairman.   Now in your statement you said that at around half past one on the day in question, you received a message on the radio control, you said it was around half past one.   If it was around half past one, can you estimate to the committee at what time did you arrive at that spot after you have received it at half past one, the message, that there is this incident that took place?