ADV VISSER
Mr Chairman, we must really start.  We don't think much turns on this, but let's analyze it.  The second sentence of paragraph 4 as I read it, says this, I loaded the corpses into two government vehicles and under my command and supervision, they were taken to Alldays.
	It could be correct as you've pointed out, as Mr De Jager has pointed out, that could be correct, because he could have been in a car, from where it was taken to the mortuary in Louis Trichardt.
	And then we come to what you are now putting to me Mr Chairman.   During the transport of the corpses to Alldays police station, none of these corpses sustained any further injuries.  Well, that depends on whether he was the one that was present at all stages and as I understood the evidence, it was Mr Gerber who was the person in charge.
	But for as far as he may not have set out the correct facts, this witness says that he attested to it and he knew it was watered down and ...