CHAIRPERSON
I'd like to express a purely personal opinion in the matter.  When I heard that Mr Ntsebeza was being involved and he was going to be here, I didn't see the relevance of his presence to the application for amnesty - that's a purely personal view I've had on the matter and I haven't been persuaded that I'm wrong in that regard.  	However this witness is here - Mr Ntsebeza, since you say that this has now become a matter in the public domain and it has unfortunately received publicity, please understand that if it has reached the press, it isn't as a result of the activities of this Committee, we have no hand in all this.  And to the extent that it gets publicity, I personally regret that that has happened but let us proceed now so that this chapter is brought to finality and to a conclusion without wasting too much time.