MR WAGNER
May I respond, Sir?
	The reason why this is said in my notes as well as in the letter of last Friday was simply this.  When I and my client perused the application, we realised that Mr Coetzee, according to us, is not telling the truth in many incidents.  So we had to decide how do we prove that.  And I realised that the only sensible way would be proper cross-examination to attack this person's credibility.  But I wasn't sure to what extent cross-examination will be allowed.  Therefore I took the liberty of phoning you personally to discuss this matter with you, namely what would be our rights and you, I agree Sir, said there would be a limited right of rebuttal.  Although I wasn't sure exactly what would mean in practice.
	I also tried to phone your other brothers, I couldn't get hold of them, I tried on Friday, but I did get hold of Mr De Jager and I also raised the same problem with him, as to how are we going to deal with this evidence of Mr Coetzee.  Because it seemed to me that it is either a full cross-examination or nothing.  Because by merely putting a few simple questions to him would really amount to nothing.