N JACK MENERA
Judge Wilson there is a kind of situation.  I requested my advocate that the forgiveness that I am going to ask from Mr Phelane should be done collectively as a group of people who committed these acts.  The TRC gave my co-accused a date to appear before the Commission.  I believe they will also come and give their version of the story an they're going to ask for forgiveness from Mr Phelane and his family.