MR HATTINGH
In that situation, the position is almost too ghastly to contemplate, because I believe I was advised by the investigating officer at the time of the criminal trial, that the trial within a trial took up almost three to four weeks, so that only goes to show that if the pointing out and the admission documents are not accepted by the applicant as free and voluntary, then we are stuck with a situation where we either have to accept it, to get on with the matter, or, if we would still like to rely on it, we need to prove it, and the extent to which we ...(intervention).