MR PHOSA
Oh well now, I've given you an opportunity to deal with that,  that's your answer.
	I won't be long Mr Chairperson, ...[inaudible] with this.
	Now, just about some gory details that I'll spend a little bit of time on them - on ...[inaudible]  You and your colleagues had ample time in which to reflect upon  your act, in other words there was a lot of time from the moment he was - they were abducted to the actual killing, you had ample time in which to re-think this.