MUSAWENKOSI CELE
I will say that the reference to the ANC or the IFP is just pure fabrication.  There was no political activity.  At one point Zulu, who is sitting directly in front of me, once threatened me with a steel pipe and I went to the Chief's house and I wanted to see if he would actually follow me to that Chief's house, and he did not.
	That was even before there was any conflict.  He was just threatening me, I don't know for what reason.