MR PHOSA
(cont)
	Regarding the question I raised, the objection was properly taken.  My instructions - I misunderstood my instructions.  It is not so much that this witness was mentioned and that he himself objected.  I was referring to - I was going to refer because it never came out, I was going to refer to the application which was made in which the Committee was being interdicted from mentioning names of alleged assailants.  Now, I understood then that he was one of them, so I'm going - I'm withdrawing that question but I'm continuing in that vein in a different form.
	You are aware that an application was made before the Human Rights Committee of the TRC last year here ...[intervention]