SIMON MOGOPO RADEBE
They only told us that we should go with that ANC member, whom I don't know his real name, whom we used to call him Gipsman, that he'll take us to a certain woman in KwaMashu where ANC members used to arrive at her place.  They telephoned her, then that person is the one who gave them that particular information.  And then when that person was arrested I was not there.