TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  No, up til the time, as I say, when Warrant-Officer Letsatsi was on the farm, and then at the end of 1980 headquarters selected Almond Nofomela, another two policemen, I think, John Mpofu and another one or two, to be based on Vlakplaas permanently with me.  And then the white policemen at the farm was Sergeant Koos Schutte, who was actually the foreman on the farm, who was pulled in from the police garage to look after the askari vehicles.  We had operational vehicles, to look after the farming itself;  Warrant-Officer Connie Swikelaard(?), who looked after the claims, the travel allowance and claims;  Captain Koos Vermeulen, who came from Bronkhorstspruit as