TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  No, they are staying in Umlazi.  I have two sisters.  The one is staying in Gauteng.  That's where she is married.  And the other one is staying in KwaZulu-Natal.  She is also married at Avoca.  And I also have two brothers.  They are still alive.  The other one is staying at Umlazi and the other one is staying in Chesterville.  My brother's children as well, I took them to their grandparents, and the other ones are with my sisters-in-law.  We asked them to take the children because their husbands had died, so there are also other children who are in Clermont.  That is my brother's children, my deceased brother's children.  I am presently working at the NGO Centre for Community and Labour Studies.  We are involved in progress and development of the community.  That's about all I can say.   No, I am satisfied.  You have quite a big family.  You have come to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission to tell us and relate to us as to what happened to your place or to where you stayed which you thought the police were behind.  You were also harassed at some stage.  That is from 1985, is that correct?   ---   That is correct.