VINCENT KHANYILE
I am trying to explain to you Mr Berger, that the Police I would say - correct that, the soldiers came about five minutes, in five minutes' time after we had arrived at kwaMadala.
	As I was walking on this pedestrian path, we left the soldiers standing at the Trek garage.  We were rushing as we could see we are afraid that we have to rush into the kwaMadala hostel after seeing them.  What I can say, that whoever says something to the contrary is not telling the truth, but the fact that they did come to kwaMadala after some few minutes, is true.