MR BLACK
Okay.  I'll just read it out then.
"In any event, (paragraph twenty three (23)), I wish to state that the said Eric Valla introduced me to Mr J J Mabena.  Mr Mabena was the organiser and chairperson of the ANC in the Secunda area.  At present I understand that Mr Mabena will also be making application for amnesty before this Committee.  The post which he presently holds is the MEC for Environmental and Gaming Affairs in the Province of Mpumalanga.  I indicated to Mr Mabena that I wish to assist in normalising the situation which prevailed in Ermelo, Piet Retief and Secunda area.  At that time the Inkatha Freedom Party, assisted by the South African Police, the gangsters Black Cats and Black Chain were terrorising, killing and harassing members of the community in general and in particular members of the ANC and UDF.  As already stated, my military background and membership of Umkhonto weSizwe had been established and was well-known to the ANC structures."