MANDLA WELLINGTON FOKAZI
Thabo was used.  After a while they found that he was used because he did not know what he was saying.  All he was saying was a lie.  And I was old to go for - I was not there - we were not there to rob, we had weapons so that we can fight.  So that is a lie what he said.
	He went to Fusi Mofokeng in Kroonstad.  We received a letter stating that he visited Fuzi Mofokeng in Kroonstad in jail when we were arrested.  If I'm not mistaken I think it was in 1995 or 1996, if I'm not mistaken.  When Thabo went to Fuzi he said that he was asking for forgiveness because he was promised something.  
	He told Fusi that he lied in Court and he was asking for forgiveness and he was going to try to help us to get out of jail and then Fusi asked him how he would do that.  He then said he made certain affidavits but I don't know to which office.  He went to the Magistrate in Kroonstad.  He made a confession statement about our case.  The Magistrate said that he should go to the members of the ANC, those that were said to have planned this affidavit.  The lawyer of the ANC had to make an affidavit and send that affidavit to him as a Magistrate and the Magistrate would sign and stamp it and send it to the Justice Department.
	So Chairperson, what I'm trying to say is that I'm aware of this but it is not true, it is a lie and there is evidence about that.  And on the 25th of August George Ndlosi was working for the TRC in Johannesburg.  I told him about this.  I was together with Clement Ndabeni.  We told him about what happened before and we didn't know exactly what was the end of this.  George Ndlosi said they would follow this case because I said to my co-accused it is better to hide this boy because if the police were aware that he was giving out such an information they would take him out of the way.
	Then Fusi Mofokeng told me that he was out of the way.  So I didn't know about this robbery.  Thabo just told a lie about this but he didn't straight to me.  Thank you.