PHILLIPUS CORNELIUS KLOPPERS
I understand what you are saying. I would like to say that during the criminal procedures that you should not refer to it, that you should refer only to what had been submitted, because I had been told by Mr Oelofse to answer only certain things during those proceedings to protect him and to protect the movement.
	So you could refer me to the home made shotguns which I received from Mr Fourie, which I did not receive from Mr Fourie.  And that is why I request that you do not refer back to the criminal proceedings.