MR CURRIN
... lead in support of certain aspects and he did indicate informally to make certain indications to us, but nothing is on the record.  So at this stage we are not yet in a position to know the extent to which we are going to have to call witnesses to substantiate certain aspects of that document.
	Secondly, we have had a number of meetings, two in fact, with members of the national executive of the African National Congress and we were advised that a person would be here today to testify on behalf of that organisation in respect of certain critical issues.  We have not seen that person here yet, and in the circumstances that would have been our next witness.  In the circumstances we would ask if our learned colleagues here could commence with their evidence. I know this would be contrary to the guidelines, but we would ask your indulgence to be able to - so that proceedings can continue, to be able to call the witness from the African National Congress afterwards.
	Thirdly, I should mention, we have also consulted with family - certainly, two sons of the deceased, who indicated that they would like to testify.  Now I believe that the Commission counsel have also consulted with those sons of the deceased and I assume that they will be called by the Commission and would not be necessary for us to call them. But I would like to place on record that if they are not called by the Commission counsel, then we would certainly like to call them.  Thank you, Sir.