BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
Yes, I think, the reason why I am asking you these questions is that it is not being denied that Joe Nkuna was part of the operation and part of the planning, the dispute is around the question whether or not he was there at that house when the house was being attacked and he is saying that he was not there.  That is why I am asking you these questions.  Now, let me ask you something else.  You, yesterday you talked about Joe having to arrange transport to take you to the place where you were to lodge an attack.  Am I right?