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Thank you Mr Chair.  In fact our investigative unit have been providing background material on this matter and one of the propositions that they have put, and I would like your comment on this, is that at that critical period, 92, the South African government found itself in a dilemma and this is what brought about the dilemma.
 Ciskei was a very valuable ally for the South African government in the negotiations process and therefore its continued existence under a strongly anti- ANC government was crucial because Ciskei was still being used by these strongly anti- ANC government elements as a base for covert operations by conservative SADF elements, who planned to launch an armed attack on the Transkei intending to kill Chris Hani and Bantu Holomisa.
 So that therefore if Gqozo's government collapsed, that operation would have been jeopardised.  That's the one scenario.  
 You need the Ciskei, you need it under an anti- ANC dictatorship.  Elements in the South African Defence Force need that environment for covert operations and Chris Hani and Holomisa being at that time in the Transkei, one of the objectives was to mount this armed attack, take out Chris Hani and Bantu Holomisa.  
 But at the same time Gqozo had become an embarrassment to your government, particularly because of that inquest which you talked about.  You had sent this gentleman, your Deputy Minister on the 26th August and the inquest, this refusal to go to the inquest of Charles Sebe and Onward Gonzana and this refusal to your Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, Raymond Schoeman, and of course also Mickey Webb and all those people, specifically to discuss, you had sent these men specifically to discuss the refusal to allow the inquest.  
 The support therefore by South Africa was crucial to Gqozo at that time in order to deal with the march.  That's the scenario.  I would like to therefore get your views on this.  You have on the one hand an embarrassment but on the other hand you need to retain him to the extent that there are these other designs.