MR MAPOMA
Yes, sir, it appears in the first statement.  Then that incident does not relate to the Black Cats conflict, the incident which is not mentioned in the second statement or dealt with in the second statement.   And that particular incident is not before this hearing today because it is not ready for hearing.  And then when the second statement was submitted to the Committee, there was no correspondence accompanying it.  It was a telephonic conversation with Mr Tofile next to me from Advocate Rodney Black, where he said he's going to fax the statement which he did.