MR WILLIAMS
Can you recall that you told me at a certain stage that you had access to that sort of weaponry?  I think it was in the same year, it was close to the Namibian election.  You said that you had access to a lot of handgrenades and that sort of thing and that if the Kewtown Youth Movement wanted any of those things, we just had to say the word and my response to was that we weren't interested in that sort of thing?