MR NYOKA
Finally, do you remember in 1988 there was a case at Humansdorp where ...[inaudible] was acting having briefed ...[inaudible] - the case was Collin Devu and another person - another two people, Collin Devu was convicted having of having been an MK member - he's a bodyguard of Mr Mandela now.  He was sentenced to 14 years and an informer Mr X, was one of the people he skipped the country with but he was in protective custody, he was never a danger.  The State succeeded in prosecuting people who were troublesome - I think I saw you in Humansdorp, do you remember that case?  It was a big case in Humansdorp in 1988.  Collin Devu, he's now a bodyguard of Mr Mandela.  He originates from Paarl in the Western Province, do you remember that case?