CHARLES ALFRED ZEELIE
At two occasions, I went into the office where the interrogation was taking place.   At some stage Colonel Van Niekerk and myself were informed that Mr Bopape was not giving his co-operation, and it was decided by myself, Van Niekerk, Engelbrecht and Mostert to frighten Bopape by using a shock method to let him talk.   We agreed that it should be done.  At a later stage, Sergeant Du Preez arrived with a shock device at the office.