MR BANADE
Mr Chairman, it has to be the facts of what happened when this offence took place.  Relevant facts in this case are that Mr Jama was apprehended, he was seen as an ANC supporter.  How each and everyone realised that he was an ANC supporter differs from instance to instance and the person was murdered.  Hence the fact that he was an ANC member and on the one hand they were affiliated to the right-wing and the others were Inkatha supporters.  These are the main points, these are the relevant facts.  Finer detail may differ, not always to mislead the Committee, but because these acts took place six years ago and I am just asking that it be considered reasonably.
	To answer your question, we are talking about relevant facts, what happened that day and what went on in their minds and what was the political motive.  And with all due respect, Mr Chairperson, I think that has been fully disclosed to this Committee.