MR DE RU
I understand that as such.  I just have one main problem with regards to the documents given to my advocate.  They have been numbered and my application has not been numbered.  I do not know if it will be at all possible that the Committee could give me the documents which will ease this and speed up the whole process.  I thank you for your assistance.  May I proceed, your Worship?  Thank you.
	I thank for the opportunity to be able to appear before you this morning.  I am applying for amnesty as has already been mentioned to you earlier with regard to the culpable homicide, the murder and the defeating the ends of justice which I am serving a sentence at the moment.  It has been agreed between my legal representative and I that we will apply for amnesty with regards to the other matters at a later stage since they do not quite fit in with the two matters that we are dealing with at the moment.  
	I would also just like to inform you that as far as the Attorney-General is concerned the matter referred to in the letters before you has been postponed to the 2nd of June this year in anticipation of the decision which the honourable, which the honourable Commission will find.  It is with regard to the two charges of murder which took place during a police action and I will not deal with that right now, but in due course.  
	Your Worships, I will testify before you that my deeds were committed with a political motive.  It was committed within the conflict of the past and that all facts, relevant facts will be revealed to you now.  
	I was in the employ of the State as a member of the South African Police Service since 1976 up until the 24th of the eleventh month 1995 after my appeal was turned down and I had to start serving my prison sentence.  I held the rank of Captain.  I worked as a Detective and at the time of the commission of these crimes I was the Commanding Officer of the Investigative Unit at Sasolburg in the Free State.  I will show that these deeds were committed within the ambit of my duties and within my authority aimed at - and it was aimed at political organisations such as the ANC who were involved in a political conflict against the State and/or against members or supporters of such organisations.  It was done bona fide with the intention of combatting the onslaught.  Hence these deeds were committed to combat the conflict of the past.  
	I also believed that I was working within the framework, operating within the framework of my duties as will become apparent to you in my testimony which I will give and also within the framework of my competency.