ADV PRIOR
Mr Chairman, it's just been brought to my intention that the families of Ntwene and the other kwaMashu three are not here, are not present.  They are scheduled to arrive because the hearings were anticipated to do Bhila and then Ndwandwe, Ntwene, they were given notice in that fashion although their representative is here I just foresee problems and if we can maybe resolve it.  I know it's going to create some logistic problem with the hearing.