CHAIRPERSON
But according to the evidence before us, this must have been witnessed by the applicant.   I mean the version given by Mr O'Farrell and that one given by Mr Sambo as to what happened when would make the applicant to be right at the scene of the assault of Mr O'Farrell.   I just cannot explain how he could not have witnessed this.   I put this question to Mr Sambo, if I recall, that when he states that Mr O'Farrell came, approached him, with his gun cocked, where was he, he said he was there, he could see, and it was at that stage that Mr O'Farrell was actually hit by the so-called group of persons, because he was trying to come to Mr Van der Spuy's assistance, who had then called out for him to come to his assistance.