ADV GCABASHE
Mr van den Berg, one aspect that just bothers me a little.  The applicant testified that at the time of the attack on Ngcobo, Shandu, Zwane, there was then, he then joined some of his other comrades after the bayonet had been taken off him and there was a Robert Mabaso who was in one of the work stations who was said to have a firearm, if I recall correctly.  He then said to people he doesn't have a firearm and approached Robert Mabaso who, the long and the short of it is, this Robert Mabaso then shot him.
	Now what I am wondering about is 1) is this the same Robert Mabaso who had sought to attack, to deal with at an earlier time, 2) whether or not it's the same Robert Mabaso, did he commit any particular offence on this occasion that he may understand himself to be asking for amnesty for.  I wouldn't like to find that he can now be charged with something that he things he adequately dealt with before us.  If you could just clarify that particular situation for us, what I call the second Robert Mabaso incident.