MR PRINSLOO
Mr Chairman with respect, at that stage there was already a amnesty date, a cutoff date and that date was not relevant to these applicants.  So he (indistinct).  Mr Chairman the initial cutoff date, these applicants were outside that date at that stage and what I understand the applicant to say at this stage, they were in negotiations in order to shift the date so that they would also fall inside the amnesty legislation which was subsequently done.  At that stage they didn't qualify for amnesty.  Thank you Mr Chairman.