MR MADASA
Mr Chair, assuming that the committee finds that in fact he lied on that point, but before I come, I address it in that manner, I submit that Sonti has denied it, and he said it's Holomisa who did so, and then taking in to account that this young man, at that time he was surprised by the, when he was accosted by the applicants, and there were many, I submit that there is a chance that he may be mistaken as to who exactly, not that he was not stabbed, but who exactly did so, because Sonti does not deny that he was stabbed but he says somebody else did so.
	But assuming that his version is rejected on that point, the way I would look at it, Mr Chair, I submit, would be that the main allegations against the applicants is that they rounded up these people and later killed them, and therefore Sonti's evidence must be seen in that light, that he has admitted his involvement, his participation in apprehending the victims and taking them to the shack.
	As to what happened when they were apprehended, I would again submit, Mr Chair, with respect, that it is important, but not that important.