SALMON JOHANNES GERHARDUS DU PREEZ
Chairperson, I cannot recall exactly which person was in which position because I cannot even recall in which position Khubeka had sat, whether she was in the front of the vehicle or in the back of the vehicle.  What I do recall is that we approached the vehicle and opened the doors to find terrorists and what  - in the end there was only Khubeka which was the stranger in the car and I can recall that after she had climbed out of the vehicle, I grabbed her from behind and took her to the kombi.  I half lifted her and dragged her to the kombi and this happened very quickly.