JUDGE MGOEPE
No, I think the difficulty with proportionality is this; we know that possibly there was a political objective sought to be achieved, and as a way of achieving whatever they wanted to achieve, they wanted to get the keys.  But the question of proportionality arises in this context:  do you, in order to get the keys, do you have to kill a person.  You see, it arises in this context.  Couldn't you just get a sjambok, for example, and just hit him and hit him until he tells you where the keys are, rather than kill him?