MR MALAN
Mr Visser, I just don't understand the argument with regard to Taylor's absence or departure.  In order to case light on this issue, because in terms of the evidence we cannot rely on the fact that Taylor had departed.
	When he made this statement, he was in a condition which meant that he could not really stand in for that statement.   But you say Mr Du Preez, that your recollection is that Taylor departed before Nxiweni was eliminated?