FRANS MOBIKA MORWAENG
Yes, in many instances. Many members of the ANC whom I used to attend meetings with them, together with the police and members of the civic and members of this gangs. The last meeting which I remember together with the members of the gangs and police, it is when members of the gang were looking for Marupeng at his home. They did not find Marupeng and they pointed his sister with a gun and the police were called. After that they assembled members of the gang and arrested them on that day. That was on the 14th of May 1992. And then again on the 16th of May, the police requested that there should be a meeting between the ANC, themselves and members of the gang. We attended that meeting and during that meeting, instead of the police to inform us that they found members of the gang out, they allowed the members of the gang to address us and when we asked them what was the problem, what is your problem for not arresting members of the gang, the members of the gang explained that they were forced to join members of the ANC. And when we asked these people who was responsible for forcing them to be members of the ANC, so that we will be able to question those people who were forcing them to be members of the ANC.