CAPT MENTZ
No, not at all Mr Chairman.  The first time I heard about this was in the newspaper and I 
later saw it on TV, it's only Ngqulunga's brother and Mamasela mentioned this, but from the time that it 
happened until 1995 when I had left Vlakplaas long before, I hadn't discussed it with anybody, I was no 
longer a security policeman.  But in the period after leaving Vlakplaas when I was still a security 
policeman I never heard anything about this again.  I vaguely remember that Baker long after that said that 
De Kock had told him that the Generals had said that the operation had been carried out successfully, I 
don't know which Generals were involved, but I deduced that it was General van Rensburg.
	At Vlakplaas, when something happened, you were forbidden to discuss it with anybody because 
everybody drank there and you never knew what somebody would say if he were to be under the influence, 
these things were never discussed again, definitely not from my side, it was something which I wanted to 
forget about.