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Mr Chair, before continuing with this particular applicant, it came to my attention that I made an error when I stated to the first applicant that he was born on the 5th of March, that is mistaken, the first applicant was born on the 2nd of March.   Adriaan was born on the 2nd of March, Willem on the 5th of March.   In fact, Chair, that is the case.   Mr Van Straaten, you were born on the 11th of April 1966 in Vereeniging?