RONNIE KASRILS
In my application to the Amnesty Committee, which I'm still waiting to be called, I apply for amnesty on the grounds that I in fact participated in providing weapons to the people of the East Rand, of Soweto of the West Rand, of other parts of the country.  I did so as did Robert McBride in order to protect peoples lives in the way that is being described for self defence purposes.  Now it really cannot be equated the question of protection for defence against those who wage war and are prepared to go to absolute extremes in their bloodshed and destruction.  On our part we have admitted to failures on our part to occasions where our people have overstepped the mark and carried out actions which were against policy.  The ANC leadership has accepted responsibility for that and we also ask the TRC to consider the context in which people made those mistakes.