MR VAN VUUREN
Your Honour, I can only say that Mr Makopeand Mr Maake were in a specific cell and the moment we gainedthem as informants, the struggle was at that stage very serious.  The moment we  gained them as informants  the chances wouldhave been very good that they could tell Sefola and that he couldtell others that they were now informants.  We did not try torecruit them;  they were  involved in very bad crimes and we didnot try to recruit them.