MR LAX
You see, Mr Mbandazayo, my problem is this, and to this extent they haven't come here on the basis that the act that they committed was within the general context of the PAC's policy, they've come here on a different basis, they've come here on the basis that they had specific instructions to carry out a particular operation.  You've gone further than that, you've said their instructions were so specific that they had to do it on that day.  You follow?  Now that being the case  you can't rely on the general context, the general policy context to then provide the mantle of authority for them doing things outside the context of their orders.  Do you understand my concern?  But if you'd come back to the second issue, the first question that I raised.    You've attempted to deal with the second aspect.