MR WAGENER
Mr Chairman, before we get to that affidavit, may I interject here.  We were referred to a list of names of 140-odd names, I'm not sure what the real suggestion was concerning my client, Brigadier Oosthuizen.  May I ask you that I can see this list.  It didn't seem relevant at all to me and I'm not sure what the point was that Mr Bellingan was trying to make.