MR VISSER
I don't wish to ask you questions about it  but I just want to put the facts in chronological order for the committee.
	Okay  1986, we'll continue with the chronological order.  P27.2; if we look at that exhibit.  On the 10th of February 1986, he was appointed as - we are referring to page 63 bundle B Mr Chair, he was appointed as a student constable.