MR MBANDAZAYO
Thank you Mr Chairman, just before I'll ask questions I want to add to what has been said Mr Chairman, I think it was indicated that there were five people, the fifth on was a driver.  Two were outside, the other one if I still remember, Xundu, explained that they were at the back but we didn't know, myself, what the back of the Golf Club is when he explained who was Mbeki, that is Vito Mbeki were outside so it's not in dispute that there were four of them, the two who entered the Golf Club inside.  The two were outside, the other one was in the car, the fifth one was driver.  Thank you Mr Chairman.
	 Mr Kieck, I just want -  just a few clarifying questions just to ask.  So, the position is that on the day on the 28th the wine tasting event was not for the senior citizens.