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Mr Chairperson first of all, I don't want to try and be clever here giving evidence, you said the Ciskean people, I am convinced, let me take Mr Kasrils, he's not a Ciskean, you said the Ciskean people had the right to come and say Oupa Gqozo we don't want you anymore, and I think many of the other leaders there they were not Ciskean people.  And again Sir I am not going to be drawn into any political arguments here, whether the South African Government saw fit to create this state of Ciskei is none of EAST LONDON HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE
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my concern Sir.  But I do feel, as a police officer, once a magistrate has made an order then I do feel that even the Ciskean people should have adhered thereto.  There was a magistrate's order and as I have said when a request came to me and said ban this march I refused, I refused.  So I did have some trust in the leaders of the march that they would adhere to a magistrate's order and go into the stadium.  What the rights Sir, of the people of Ciskei or the other marchers, we know of course people have the right to protest, then again I say if there's an order and the order says this is how you can go about with your protest then I expect from responsible people, responsible leaders to adhere to that too.