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I said that his tactical information was not as comprehensive as that which we got from other informers, in other words, the man in a, somebody in a commanding position, he knew who was going to infiltrate, what their names were etc.  The specific tactical information was who was responsible for crossing the border, who was conveying them, where they were going to in Durban and in those cases, we infiltrated throughout the structure so we could act in a preventative way.