MR MAPOMA
Thank you, sir, I won't take that matter any further, sir.
	Now I just want to go to the application regarding Mr Michael Mneba vis-a-vis the attack on Jabulani Nkmalo.   Chairperson, I understand Mr Mneba Sonti denies ever assaulting him, but the evidence that is before us now is that he did commit that offence.   Now it goes to the credibility of Jabulani as a person.   It was put on him that his sense of judgment must have been affected while he was in the shack, because he was in the state of shock, which he admitted, but before that, that is when he was taken from his place, there's nothing, sir, which can suggest that his judgment was affected.   For that matter, he says, he identified Mr Mneba as the first person to get inside the shack where he was and committed that offence.  And, sir, I even put it to Mr Sonti during cross-examination that Jabulani Nkmalo claims to have been assaulted by him in the shack.   His reply was that Jabulani Nkmalo is a person who stays in (Indistinct), was not even there, he denies that that person was ever there in that place.    There's some element, Chairperson, therefore of not telling the truth insofar as that particular aspect is concerned.   
	It came later on, when Mr Mkmalo was cross-examined by his lawyer, that Mr Sonti says in fact someone else assaulted him and not Mr Sonti.   When I put that question to him, he did not come with that version.   Therefore, sir, I submit that his credibility is compromised in this, Mr Sonti's credibility is compromised in this particular regard.
	Now about Mr Oscar Motlokwa, the killing of Alizulu.   He has not made full disclosure to the committee beforehand that he killed Alizulu by shooting him six times, but I remember when he was giving evidence, sir, he said that there was a shooting, when he gave evidence regarding the incident of catching, amongst others, Tusanang, he said they saw them and they, and Tusanang's group shot at them and they shot back, and someone died, but he has not gone to the extent of saying that he himself shot (Indistinct), and as a result of which Alizulu died.