MR NEMANE
That is correct, Mr Chairman.  Mr Chairman, the issue which Mr Menera wish to raise was that the relatives of the victims should not think that in saying the things that he is about to say he is, he is bragging to them and they must understand that he is remorseful about the incident.  We have advised him that we will deal with that matter in due course.  However, Mr Chairman, Mr Mpshe raised a second, another difficulty during the, during the adjournment and it is at paragraph, I beg Mr Chairman's pardon.  Yes, Mr Chairman, it is at paragraph 11(b).        The ...(intervention)