CHICHELA ESAU MACHITJE
I indicated that I was in prison and what I will tell you is what I know and ...(indistinct) inside Thokoza.   Inside ...(indistinct) it was a mix of people staying there, different cultures and I don't have a full background of what started the violence which caused the bringing down of the hostel and I was made to believe that TRC had that information because it appeared as if the argument which took place inside the hostel between a Zulu guy and a Xhosa guy led to a war which at a later stage people who are said to be behind the violence use that to give a picture that this is an ethnic thing, it's a war between Xhosas and Zulus.  As I said to you, this is Thokoza inside Vosloorus.  I just want to give you a picture of when the violence changes at a certain turn where I was involved with instruction of stopping them, travelling to Khumalo Street.  They were stopped just next to the stadium, there was a - there where I've written "stadium", there was a garage.  We have two sections there, Thokoza Garden on top and Beirut underneath and the funeral procession was stopped right at the middle of those two sections, it's where the attack took place and as I said earlier that was the last funeral procession that went through the street.  I talked about the perception that everybody had about Thokoza of Khumalo being a dangerous street.  You know Khumalo was a dangerous street up until a certain period.  The demarcation line was Buthelezi Street and from there going up as I said, these are the people who I strongly believe were members of the ANC and the ANC had a stronghold of this township and I just want to mention one other thing which I think normally when we talk of Thokoza, people have a wrong idea of what really happened inside Thokoza.  I once gave orders that members of central command or SDU's as I said should immediately go to every taxi owner inside and a meeting was called at Mahaum, Mahaum is just next to where I've written "army".  It's when we took a decision that to stop the tendency of taxis taken inside the hostel.  Taxis should turn at Nkaki Street, Nkaki Street is just down here.  So taxis from Thokoza will normally turn there and go up and go to town.