CHAIRPERSON
Thank you very much.  Right you are.  Mr Ngonyama are you not remaining behind?  Order, order, order!  It's quite important, I mean I want to, I don't want to be too rough on you but I think it is important that we make quite clear that this is a Commission.
 It really is, it is important, it is important because when we make our findings, people mustn't say that the Commission has been swayed by, you know, and we need to, because there may come people whose views you do not particularly like and I have to protect them and would want us please to be, don't make our life more difficult than it is already.  I'm therefore making an appeal that though, whilst, I mean I understand your feelings and now and again I allow you to express them but on the whole, go to the stadium to hold the rally, this is a Commission.
 All right, I mean I don't want to be too rough on you.  I think I mean that on the whole you behave well but it is, it is important that people don't get the impression that we are being swayed.  Thank you very much.