MR BERGER
Yes.  The next annexure, annexure F which starts at page 21 is an affidavit by a Colonel Martinus Christoffel Marx, I'm not going to go through the whole affidavit because a lot of it is not relevant for the purposes of this application, but at page 21 he says that he'd been asked to collect certain statistics in relation to the march and the incidents which had occurred during the march.  At page 22, at the top, paragraph 2, he says,
"Uit die statistiek blyk dit duidelik dat daar op 28 Maart '94 en voor die skietvoorval te Shell House verskeie voorvalle van geweld voorgekom het, veral te Soweto en Johannesburg."
And then he goes on to detail the incidents and for the purposes of this memorandum the important paragraph is paragraph 3 where he says,
"Arrestasies op 28 Maart tydens die optogte Johannesburg, 31 persone is tydens die optog gearresteer vir die besit van ongelisensieerde vuurwapens en ammunisie."
So these were marchers.  
"'n Groot aantal vuurwapens is tydens die proses teruggevind"
and then I'm not going to read all of them, but you will see revolvers, shotguns and over the page, page 23, 9 AK47 guns seized and 123 rounds of AK47 ammunition, that's live ammunition seized, and then pistols, home-made revolvers and so on.  I can tell you, Chairperson, that the rest of this affidavit deals with investigations into MK members who came into the country from Zimbabwe, whether or not they were armed, he says his information was that they were not armed, I don't want to go into that detail because it's not particularly relevant, but just so that I'm not - I don't just gloss over it so you don't know what's here, and he says he doesn't have any evidence that they were involved in anything at Shell House.  
	He then goes on to discuss certain conversations and meetings that he had with Caroline Nicholls and me on behalf of the ANC, and Jenny Friedman on behalf of the IFP, but none of that is of particular relevance.
	And then annexure G at page 28 is a Police report of an arrest on the 28th of March where further firearms were seized.  The report is to the effect that a group of people from IFP leaders from the Alexandra Hostel were travelling along Louis Botha Avenue on the 28th of March on their way into town.  The Chairperson of the IFP in Alexandra Hostel and some others, they were arrested and then of particular relevance is at the bottom of page 28, the Makorov, the CZ 65 and so on that was seized, according to the Police.  The next annexure is the evidence.
	So we say in paragraph 14, this is where it all comes together, Chairperson, that numerous other weapons and ammunition were seized by the Police from marchers during the course of the 28th of March '94 and those details are set out in annexure - details of the weapons are in annexure E, details of the ammunition is in annexure F and in footnote 16 we refer to the SAP report.