CHAIRPERSON
Yes.  Now how can you say Elsie had disappeared a long time before?  How can you say that?  When I asked you, you said this incident happened around June 1992.  I asked you that question specifically and that was your response.  You said around June 1992, and later said it must have been before June 1992.  The record will bear me out.  Was it not a mistake to have included Elsie in your order, your initial orders which you issued immediately, and to be precise, a day after you had identified only Hapile Ndumo amongst alleged IFP members in the car?