CHAIRPERSON
Mr Smiles, we - I personally am getting quite despondent with some of your responses and the reason you are advancing for why you lie from time to time.  Now,  you have already stated the first time you made a statement to Sipho and Boraine, they didn't identify themselves as TRC people and you also did not know what the TRC was all about and that's why you were scared and you lied.  	Then you stated further that after that statement you then obtained a booklet which you were able to read and you could understand what the TRC was all about, in any event you were able to appear before the TRC when they were holding an event hearing at this hall on the 11th of June, so you already knew precisely what the process entailed of the TRC.  Now I cannot understand why, if you already knew what the TRC was all about you were still frightened to a point of making another lie about something which is so innocuous as having to lie and say you were influenced by some people to lie on the 8th of June.
	What was wrong in simply saying that: "I lied" and advancing the same reason that you have advanced today, that you lied because you didn't know what the TRC was all about?