MR MCBRIDE
Yes, I have that, Sir.
MR RICHARD
"When?"
		"I left in '80"
		"You left in '81 or '82"
		"Correct"
		"Now that was at least four years before.  Do you agree with me that at that point in time that person was neither an on-duty or an off-duty policemen, he was an ex-policeman?"