ADV MEMANI
Well, Mr Chairman, I understand what you are saying.  I am not, you know, I do not want to mislead the Committee and say I am definite, I am sure that there was an application.  I am saying that this is an incident which, as you are saying, is quite dubious and if you want me to deal with the matter properly then you should stand the matter down, I will go and look through the papers and take further instructions and clarify the matter, because there were many incidents that we are dealing with, I cannot recall clearly what went on during those proceedings.  We are speaking about evidence which was led over three weeks in the past.