GARY JOHN KRUSER
What I know is that 8 people died outside Shell House.  How many were injured, I don't have the totals.  I'm also told that, I mean, I looked at, the medical evidence that one person was stabbed, one person was shot with a Makarov probably in his side, one person was probably from the front with an AK, the rest of the people were shot with shotguns if I remember correctly in the back, they were shot with shotguns, pellets of shotguns in their backs.  That's I think more or less how I recollect it.