JUDGE MGOEPE
Before you withdraw the objection I think something must be cleared.  Mr Mpshe, I told you last time, when problems of this nature arose, I told you that if there are problems, you must decide whether you want to accept, personally, the problems that emanate from the office of the Amnesty Committee.  If you do not speak them out and air them and make everybody understand that there are problems, the Amnesty Committee has got problems, if you do not want to speak out, you will end up having to shoulder the responsibility for everything that comes out of here.  I told you that, but apart from that, can I just clarify with your colleague, Mr Mama, Mr ...