EUGENE ALEXANDER DE KOCK
Chairperson, it created a situation that one did not expect and it immediately brought problems, which caused a crises in my opinion and which would have been an embarrassment for the police as well as the government and I requested from Mr Pienaar whether he had any East Block weapons or equipment and my recollection is that he did indeed have a Makarov pistol which was at his office, which served as an exhibit in some or other case and it is also me recollection that there was one F1 and an RPG handgrenade, which was at his office.  I am open to correction on that matter, but that is my recollection.  One of the persons who was at the scene went and collected these items and they were placed at the bodies as proof that there were weapons there.