CHAIRPERSON
Well you'll be given an opportunity to reply in the normal course of events, but you can anticipate, because we've got the Heads ... and also in the interest of saving time, as Mr Lax says, what arguments are going to be coming.  So we know that the victims briefly have said that they were not members of the Security Forces as contemplated in the provisions of 20(b), because of the fact that they'd resigned they weren't subject to military discipline, etcetera, etcetera.  I'm sure you've read that.