BERTWELL BHEKI NDLOVU
And the third one was Mtelezi.  I entered in that van and Martin Kanyele.  When this van left it went directly to that house where those people were standing, the people who were shooting us.
	When we were just approaching that house a petrol bomb was directed to the van and the van almost overturned.  And then we stopped, and then we came out and station commander then said we should go there.  When we arrived there we surrounded the house, and Mtelezi, Dlamini were at the front and they knocked there, and there was no response.  And then Dlamini shot at the door and it was open.  
	And when the doors opened the son there in that house was there, and Mtelezi then shot that boy and he fell.  Thereafter when Ngobo came a sergeant he realised that that was the case, and then realised that we could be arrested.  So this person must just be killed now because that was not the case.  And then that's how the person was killed.  And thereafter ...(intervention)