MR PHOSA
Unfortunately I have to deal with every portion of your answer then you can clear it.  I'm not dealing with whether you accept responsibility, I'm asking you literally, are you saying: "At that stage when the report was given to me when I was outside - if I think correctly, outside Port Elizabeth.  I as Erasmus, could no longer do anything to stop it even if I had wanted to".  Are you saying that or not?