MR MBANDAZAYO
Chairperson, I would say that they killed the daughter because, the reason why I'm saying that, in a question which was put to the applicant during the cross-examination when Kulman said that he shot the daughter and when it was pointed out to him that the shot which he alleged to have fired struck him on the head is the one which possibly, according to the medical evidence, that killed him.  He said that's a possibility that he is the person because it was said that was a shot which was fired on her head.  That is why, Chairperson, I'm saying according to the evidence, inasmuch as they said themselves that at the time when they left with him he was not dead, she was not dead at the time.
CHAIRPERSON
"She was finally shot to death by our commander, Thandukolo"