MR KAHANOVITZ
Our submission at the end is going to be that the fact that you might - well let's take one example which should be clear.  Whether or not you might be subject to extradition, let's leave that aside.  Certainly if you travel and you go to Zimbabwe, you could be arrested and prosecuted and the fact that you've got amnesty here would be neither here nor there, but that doesn't assist someone like Mr Basson in putting forward the kind of argument that he's putting forward here, in the sense that our argument's going to be that he has an obligation to tell the whole truth about his activities, he can't decide because of certain negative consequences for him if he tells the whole truth, that he's not going to do so.