ABRAM VAN ZYL
I already gave that evidence yesterday, I say once again that I wanted to make sure, I wanted to have confirmation that the management meeting, as it was reported to us, had taken place and which persons were there.  Yesterday it was put to me that I sat there with a checklist and ticked off names as the persons exited, that was not the case.
	It was a precautionary measure that after the people came out of the hall and climbed into their cars, they were identified to me, it was a measure according to which I could determine that persons had left the hall.