MR WEBSTER
I cannot answer categorically to that question, Mr Chairman, but I do believe that if at all they thought of arms, the arms might have been present, possibly in the boot of the vehicle, but not that the people themselves were armed, because for them to have, if they at all had entertained that belief, I do not think that there could have been - well, let me not criticise them, but I do not believe that they could have then started, at least Maj Botha could have then started shooting at the tyre of the vehicle knowing that he is exposing himself to being fired upon, shot and killed, because he was driving that vehicle whilst he was shooting.   So to that extent, Mr Chairman, I would answer that if at all they thought there were guns, guns could not have been in their possession and I would believe and I think this is a reasonable conclusion that one can come to, that when the information came to them that the people were leaving the house, the question must have been, were they carrying arms, and the answer must have been no, hence the shooting by Maj Botha at the rear tyre because he knew it was relatively safe.