DR RANDERA
Herman, thank you very much.  It has been a long day again.  I want you just to add to what Ms Gasebue said and Ms Evelyn Mosagedi has said, relating to the day on which Monamodi Gasebue was killed.
 I understand that you were present at a meeting with him and then something happened which made all of you run in different directions.  Can you just tell us what happened?