MR GONYA
What happened there is that those two vehicles, the one I was with, Col Mkosana and Maj Mbina's vehicle, those two vehicles were stopped at the Telkom exchange and the crowd from King William's Town, they went in the stadium and we were stopping there in that place so we saw this crowd coming from the stadium at the back and we were there with Col Mkosana.  It came towards our direction, coming out of the stadium and at that time I was, we were on the left.  One company was on the left side and the other on the right side.
	Col Mkosana had three radios with him.  The first radio, he operated it with the helicopter and the other radio he communicated with Col van der Bank and the other radio he communicated with the company commanders.
	When this crowd was coming towards our direction, Col Mkosana contacted Col van der Bank and he told him that the crowd is coming out of the stadium and it was coming towards our direction.  Col van der Bank was in Parliament at that time and he was looking through the binoculars in the Parliament building.  Col van der Bank told Col Mkosana, asked Col Mkosana whether he sees a certain tree and then he said that if they had passed that tree, he must inform them.  
	Indeed the crowd passed that tree and then Col Mkosana told Col van der Bank.  He then said that we must fire them and then Col Mkosana called out and said:  "Fire" after the crowd had passed the tree.  He said "Fire" and the soldiers looked at each other.  Nobody started shooting.  He called out again for the second time and the soldiers didn't shoot.  We looked at each other.  He said that again for the third time.  At the third time he was shouting at us saying:  "I am saying fire" and then the soldiers started shooting because they were not used to that situation, that's why they did not shoot at first.  It was their first experience to shoot at the people.  That is why when he was saying fire, Col Mkosana and he was also speaking over the radio with Col van der Bank, I started shooting with the rocket launcher, left and right and in those rocket launcher, I shot pointing at the crowd.  What I wanted to do is that those people must turn back, they must not come to our direction and after shooting those two rocket launchers, I put the firearm in the car and then I sat down and the shooting continued with the rifles.
	Some of them fell down, some went back to the stadium and when they were in the stadium, he then said that we must stop firing.  Col Mkosana said that we must stop firing.