MR MBANDAZAYO IN REPLY
Chairperson firstly on the question that the applicants, the other applicant indicated that the intention was to rob and the other one said it was not the intention to rob this place, Chairperson it's my submission that both applicants agree that they went to this with the purpose of
reconnoitring the place for purposes of attack, so they are not denying that.  It was reconnoitred for purposes of that, so it's not in dispute that the purpose was, at the end of the day, for going there to rob, though they did not do it that time because the others were saying it was for reconnaissance first, which is understandable Chairperson.  
	Now coming to this point, the other point is that, Chairperson, it must be borne in mind by the Committee that there was a Commander.  They were always acting on the instruction of the Commander, Morapapa, who they were depending on.  They did not take the decision on their own and coming to this point, the decision was that they need petrol and it's agreeable, the petrol for what?  They were busy reconnoitring the places and for whose benefit were they reconnoitring these places when they ran out of petrol?  Was the purpose of pursuing the struggle.  And then they ran out of petrol and the petrol, they were going to use it, was in furtherance of that and according to them, but at the end of the day, who was commanding?  The Commander decided at that time, as the first applicant indicated, he never said anything and he attacked.  
	Now Chairperson, should they be now at the end of the day - unfortunately he cannot come and answer for what as to when did he decide to change his mind.  We don't know whether, Chairperson, at the end of the day he was going to take the money and also kill the people, but what they were told was that they wanted - they have to have the money for petrol because they cannot continue with their activities without the money for petrol.  So definitely Chairperson, if one reads that in all in perspective as to what the activity was, but if you take incident by incident as to what was happening, definitely Chairperson we will punch all the holes, definitely, you won't get the gist of the whole thing as to what was the purpose and we'll remain with many questions, but unfortunately the person who's supposed to answer the question, is the person who was tasked with the duties to establish APLA.