RUSSELL ALLY
Mr Jassat you are aware that at these hearings we
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are not going to be making any findings because what we are doing here is taking statements of witnesses which we then have to go and investigate to establish the truth of these statements.  Now you mentioned in your statement that Isoo Chiba was also probably subjected to the same type of treatment and torture as yourself, is he alive?  Can he make a statement to the same effect?