CHAIRPERSON
I understand that if something wrong had been done, and Mr Goosen came and fabricated a version which would get you out of trouble, but on your version now, it appears that you were not of the opinion that the Security Police had contributed in any way to Mr Biko's death.
	In other words is your version is that it was virtually an accident, so in those circumstances why didn't you say to Goosen, why should we tell these lies, if the truth would be good enough?