COLSON TEBOGO BEEA
Honourable Chair it's based on what one had observed before because this is not the first march that one had witnessed from the IFP.  We've seen the IFP march in the townships before, long before this and I don't recall or remember the marchers sing without - it's a pity I cannot demonstrate - without, even if you are at a distance, even if you can't hear what they are saying but the way in which they would do whatever they do, it would tell you that they are dancing to what they are singing to so those two things, those two elements were not present.  I therefore drew the conclusion that this is coming or approaching quietly because none amongst the group was doing that and that's why I think, even at the inquest, the question was posed as to whether do I say they were disciplined.  That is how I understood the question then and that's how I understand the question of discipline being raised today in relation to the quietness.