GARY JOHN KRUSER
It was in the early nineties, Mr Chairman, I was - one of my responsibilities was the protection of our president and when we went to big rallies at dangerous areas I would go and prepare the visit.  We were in an area called Ensilini which was known as a no go area for the ANC and Winnie Mandela, the late Chris Hani, the late Harry Gwala all tried to visit that area and were refused access to that area by the IFP.  Our president insisted in visiting that area and I was given instructions to prepare the visit.  We armed ourselves with AKs and other assortments of weapons and went into the area to plan the ...[inaudible].  While the president was visiting houses which was burned down by IFP members, gunshots started emanating from the hills of the area and we had to evacuate the area.