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Yes.  But certainly the evidence was that money was recovered and the indictment indicated Mr Thutha, but between both of them there was a denial of that aspect, but the evidence from the police was that they recovered money, I think from Mr Thutha.  The point that I simply make is that they had enough time or sufficient time to give the funding, if funding was what one of the objectives was, to Thandukolo, if in fact he was there.  And I think that also may strengthen the probability that he was not there or not at the scene.