TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  First of all I have used a word that will give this Commission a question mark.  Let me explain this first.  You know when you talk about intention that we should reconcile, that is it's intention that we should reconcile, and after that they say no, let's share water now.  Who are you going to share water with?  Maybe let me just leave that alone.  Things that happened to us, my pastor, you know things that took place, people who experienced those things, not people who watched this, not people who did not experience this, I am talking about people who experienced this what I am talking about, if you could empathise - you have got to empathise to understand this.  You know, at times you will intend to say "thee" and you will say "the."  I am trying to say if this Truth Commission could get and pull OD Dhlomo and say - and get OD Dhlomo to come forward, and say to OD Dhlomo, "Someone is talking about you that many people have died from the things you have said on the national television about Inkatha.  Inkatha was not going to get devastated, but you provoked Inkatha, and Inkatha got provoked and decided to do something, and people, many people died from what you've said, trying to prophesy.  What are you saying to the people who have lost their beloved ones?" because we are not going to lose our beloved ones if Dhlomo did not appear on the national television trying to provoke Inkatha.  My pastor, if you could stand before the church and say, "Church members, here we do not do these things.  If you as a church member you do this, don't do it, because if you do it you will see and then live."  You will see what will transpired after that in the church.  Even myself, if I could call the people around together and say, "The Gasa, the Miyagi nation, the Miyagi people, the Miyagi tribe, the Gasa tribe, you will see them."  Automatically you will see the people who belong to the family now trying to take action.  What I am trying to say is that Dhlomo, if this Commission could call Dhlomo and say, "Out of many people one has pointed you by finger and said - he was Sibonono Gasa.  You said this and this and that on the certain day, and this is what resulted from that, and what are you saying now in this regard?"  You know, I will also ask Dhlomo and ask him in person, "What were you trying to say on that day?"  One other thing that I am trying to say here.  You cannot bring back the dead, but my house can be renovated and built once again.  There are things that are impossible to do and there are also things that are possible to do.  Well, let me be happy once to just prove to you that Truth Commission is something.  I would like for the Truth Commission to forward this to the President.  I would like to hear the President saying that, "Oh, Gasa's house will be renovated and Gasa will see his nine-roomed big house."  Then I will appreciate the Truth Commission after that.