JAN CORNELIUS LABUSCHAGNE
Chairperson, as I've said previously we are here today to tell these people that we are sorry.  We shall meet them afterwards, I have no problem with that.  We did not want anybody to be hurt or killed in this process.  The fact that we did not make any contact with them is difficult, where does one go to find these people and we do not know what their reaction would be if we went straight to them.  So I have no problem and I think that is why we are here today, to ask for forgiveness.