DR RANDERA
Pheule, I just want to go through what, what we understand of what happened at that time and perhaps you can add or subtract.  Our research tells that there was, there was mass protests against the continuing existence of, of Black Local Authorities at the time and of course the youth and residents were asking for the resignation of Councillors in Messina.  This was a trend that we have seen in other parts of the country as well.  The death of Wilson of course led to the launch of a consumer boycott and a stay-away which lasted almost a week.  We understand that even White businesses were forced to put pressure on Black Councillors to resign.  These events coincided with the formation of the Messina Civic Organization at the beginning of the  1990's and of course other mass campaigns were launched including the Value Added Tax that we heard of earlier on and this was done in conjunction with Cosatu.  As we've seen in other places of course all these actions let to more arrests and to more killings and more injuries so I'm not saying that we're not listening to what you're saying about Wilson's death.  Wilson's death of course appeared to trigger off a number of events in, in Messina and Nancefield.  Thank you very much for coming to speak to us to-day and we will come back to you.