MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, perhaps by what I'm going to say now, it may or may not solve the problem for Mr Maharaj.  I have the problem that Botha sits in Pretoria at the moment.  I'll have to try to get hold of him and see whether I can discuss these matters over the telephone.  Perhaps telefax it through to him and then discuss it over the telephone but there may be a hitch in that we might have to ask you to allow this matter to stand down until we meet again which will be on Monday next week.  Now perhaps we can sort this whole problem out by asking Mr Maharaj through the Chair right now whether that would suit him better or not?