CARL CASTELING BOTHA
This is my style, this is the way in which I answer questions, that is why I told you I was under Section 29 detention, there was confusion concerning the Harms Commission.  You heard evidence in this regard.  It was over a period of 11 years that certain things - and I have to state this for the record, that certain things I wanted to forget and certain things that I could not forget, that is why I take the opportunity to sit in front of this Commission to make a full disclosure and to give you the answers to your questions.  What is stated here is true, I cannot deny it or dispute it, but I can also say that I made this to give as much as possible to the investigative team and also to give them as little as possible.  So in front of the Harms Commission, I want you to see that in the light of the circumstances under which I made this statement.  I can see the discrepancies concerning my evidence in front of the Harms Commission, and as you pointed out, I did say in front of the Harms Commission that at a later stage I became aware of a project.  Once again it was not my project, I did not do research on this project ... was Omar supposed to fall ill because of the pill or was he supposed to be killed using this tablet or pill?  That is why I'm not applying for amnesty for the Omar incident, because it was not my project.  All these questions, and this is my submission, you had to ask of Van Zyl.  I cannot answer for him.  I cannot see the relevance of it.