CHAIRPERSON
You see Mr Shane, you can't get the application before us through the back door.  We've got to be satisfied that there's an application, which is hearable, which falls under the ambit of the powers and functions of the TRC Amnesty Committee.  Whatever you want me to find out, or the Committee to find out, from the applicant himself, or the proposed applicant, would only be obtained once he's taken the oath, and then in some strange way the application is before us.  It's putting the cart before the horse.