TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  It's okay.  Thank you.  And she had already been to see Phoenix in the hospital.  The headmaster of the local school looked after us, who was wonderful.  Everybody was very good to us, and found us a place to live for the next few days.  And the next morning, I think, we were taken to the mortuary to identify Jackie.  And the hospital had been looking after Phoenix.  They were very good, because we didn't know whether she was safe or not, and eventually they could see by Phoenix's reaction to Debbie that she knew us, and they gave us Phoenix.