MAMOGALA JACK MKOANA
And then we went to Samuel Kanaga to speak to him, because we could see that he was feeling, I mean, very, he was in bad pain. So we tried to speak to him.  You know, maybe to gather information.  He had something to say, he must tell us, since we are maybe Black like him, but he said to us no, he knows nothing. Then we went back and give them a feedback and say that the guy says he knows nothing.  They came back to tell him that no, he is telling, I mean, nonsense. So he knows something.  Then later as the day goes, maybe by 12 o'clock, it seems that they were now maybe tired.  They said that we must keep on asking Samuel Kanaga, and I could see that his face was started swelling and his legs were now, because of the rope was, the skin was coming off.