MR MATHIBA
In May 1974 when I arrived at home I was told that Magaret left with Jan Drom.  They went to the hospital.
Jan Drom drove her with the car.  They were together with Margaret and they signed at Sebong. Jan Drom was there.  We didn't see him thereafter, since the last day at the hospital.  When I went back home they were sitting crying and I asked them as to what was happening.  They said the child has been taken to Sebong Hospital by Jan Drom and 
KLERKSDORP HEARING TRC/GAUTENG
3 M P MATHIBA
Margaret was in their company.    We didn't hear anything thereafter and we didn't know his whereabouts since that day.  We hoped that Jan Drom will tell us the whole truth, because he was the person in charge of the farm.  Even today we are still shocked.  We do not know whether the child is still alive, whether the child is dead.  Nobody knows.  When I asked them they would say he is in one of the hospitals.  They do not tell us which hospital.  We remained in that belief that he is alive, he is in one of the hospitals, but we do not know which one.  We are here to request the Commission to force this rich man Jan Drom to tell us what happened to our child, because he was last seen with him when he took him to the hospital in Margaret's company.  That is where I will end.  
 I have the identity document, it was picked up by David Matiba.  This identity document was found in a rubbish bin, it was supposed to be burnt to ashes.  Now this domestic worker picked up this identity document and she gave it to David.  David gave it to the deceased's mother.  She confirmed that it was the deceased's identity document. We sill have the identity document. I have it with me.