BUTANA ALMOND NOFOMELA
I want to put it this way.  Some of the things that I mentioned during the Harms Commission, that was not the whole truth.  Though some of the things were true, the defence counsel is capitalising on that, everything that I said there was a lie and I was responding to that statement that there were clients, de Kock and the others, whom I referred to them as opportunists, they lied all the way.  Everybody denied everything and today they are also here, they are applying for amnesty on the very same things that they said I was lying about.  So I was responding to that statement.