MR NEL
Be that as it may, thank you Mr Chairperson, it must also believe that Lieutenant Venter who is today the Head of the Barberton prison, would way back in 1991 if my memory serves me correct, way back in 1992, February 20th, already fabricate an official document where the applicant was charged for possession for dagga.  That is what this Commission must believe before his amnesty application can be considered.
	Now, turning to the Act, the applicant must satisfy this Commission that his offences relates to acts associated with a political objective.  Now, from the applicant's own evidence, with respect, I submit he did not have any political objective in taking part in planning the assassination of Mr Phosa.
	Even if it is to believe that there was such a plot, even if the AWB and these members implicated here, were involved in an act which they have strenuously denied, then the applicant himself says that he did this for a reward and he did not have any political motive in taking part in such a plot to assassinate Mr Phosa.
	It is mainly on that basis, that I must object to Mr Gwamanda getting amnesty for what he has applied for.  That is my submissions.