DEPOUTCH ELESE
I cannot forgive because one, the information which he is going to be providing, he has to prove to me that Tinage was not a member of the ANC, because in my understanding Tinage was a member of the ANC and he knows our family.
	Not only me and also this Victor Sam who brought the bag, he knows our family.  That is why I said we will need at the end of the day, also them to come and say to this, to come and testify to this Commission, say publicly that our family was a gangster, because they know our family and even me, I know them personally, even before the incident occurred.
	Both of them, in the 1980's, I went schooling with them unfortunately.  That is why they have to come up and explain to the TRC that our family was a gangster.