MR HLOPE
My answer is that I deny that, that's not true because that Kushana's son who saw me or who is alleged to have seen me, why was he not present at the trial to give evidence to the effect that I was present?
	He said they were drinking beer and the person who killed Mr Kushana was the person who had come to look for space for his child and then if that is the case, if he was there why didn't he give evidence against me to the effect that he saw me there.  
	I believe in reconciliation and I believe in speaking the truth, that is why I've come before this Commission to do a full disclosure, I don't want to lie about this.  There's no reason why I should be lying because I'm convicted already and the truth is coming out slowly but surely and whatever I'm saying is true. I was taking instructions from Mr Djamile and I did point out but I did not kill.