MR COETZEE
Yes, it is clear that eventuality planning had not been made and the thinking was not once we've got these firearms, who is going to be chasing us and would it be Murder and Robbery, and how many informants existed among the right-wing, who would betray us, where would the onslaught be coming from, that was not the thinking.  It was purely a matter of it is an emergency and we have to obtain firearms, and that was the psychosis that drove them.
	Chairperson, I would just like to touch on something else, to say on the one hand that the applicants have not presented membership cards to the Committee and we resent them for that, and on the other hand, to expect of them to swear off violence and right-wing politics, the applicants say we are members, but we have sworn off our involvement.
	Whichever insignias and so on which we had, we have gotten rid of.  To criticise them, this does not necessarily indicate a degree of credibility with the witnesses.