MR NKUMBI
I do hear the report but the allegation that he was an informer as I recall  he doesn't even remember that meeting -   17th April meeting.  If he was there he would have stepped down.  It is the first time I hear this - I went with [indistinct] to reverend [indistinct] because I wanted to know the situation concerning Mr Mslaba but the pastor - the reverend didn't tell me what was happening.
 It is the first time I hear from you.  The reverend told me that I am going there on my own risk - [[indistinct] and Monge [indistinct] took me to the reverent at that time and I was not aware of what was happening at that time.
 In Phillipstown I was involved in the youth activities, but here I didn't understand the situation.  It was clear that the reverent was lying.  He had differences with Mr Mslaba in the church.  The report you just gave me is not so, I know that the conflict between Mr Mslaba and the reverent was within the church, it's not because Mr Mslaba was a Mayor.  This is a blatant lie.