FERDINAND BARNARD
Not that I can really think of off the cuff.  While I was busy with the McQuillan project, and I testified concerning Klaas de Jonge, there is just one aspect that I would like to highlight there.
	I was told by Frans(sic) Luitingh on a certain request, that Mr Klaas de Jonge was going to be eliminated through an explosive device, through a post-box that he visited on a regular basis.  The explosive device would be placed in the post-box.  It will be placed close to his vehicle, but this was the Australian contact which I referred to.  He would do it.  He was an explosives expert, and that is how he would be killed.
	Apart from that, I cannot think of anything else.