TEBELLO TRYWELL MBATHA
I wouldn't say, I wouldn't speculate as to what was going on in their minds.  I am saying, for example when we're talking about a mass meeting, Sandile too would attend a mass meeting, but it was known that he was not an informer, he was not a police, he was not a member of the vigilantes.  I therefore cannot say or speculate on what they were thinking.