RUSSELL ALLY
Could you, could you tell us, Mr Ndumo, your statement is very important because it helps put into context the conflict that was taking place at the time in Ratanda where the unions were directly involved.  Unions were seen as aligned to COSATU and other unions which were seen as aligned to UHUSA which was supposed to be an IFP.  Can you just tell us a little bit about your understanding of that conflict that was taking place at the time.  How you saw it.