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It's appears to be part of the reason for Joe Verster's bitterness is that he says it probably was but when push came to shove they would never admit to that and they dumped me.  We will never - from what we've heard in these proceedings we don't know what the truth of the matter is.  I don't think we have any - certainly no evidence is being led here to support the notion that it was part of government stated objectives.  If anything, Mr Verster's evidence would tend to suggest that even if it was, the government certainly never admitted it.