MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, just in that regard, if you will allow me just a last reference.  In volume 2, page 63, the words that stand here coming from Taylor, are in my submission significant.
	He says, I will read the last bit of that paragraph at page 63 Mr Chairman, he says I cannot remember today who actually pulled the trigger.  It wasn't me, but I admit I was part of the decision to kill him.
	Then Mr Chairman, he says, I do recall that myself and Colonel Botha were definitely present.  It may be that Sam Du Preez and Laurie Wasserman were also present, but I cannot remember whether any other members were indeed present when this incident took place.
	We have the two people here that were actually instrumental in the elimination.  Mr Taylor couldn't remember whether they were there, with respect Mr Chairman.  I just point this out to say that the evidence of Mr Taylor must be regarded in the light of what Mr Wasserman said, and Mr Botha said about his recollection at the time when he completed these documents.
	I just wanted to make that point at this stage.  There are conflicts Mr Chairman, clearly, there are conflicts in recollection.