SISI KHAMPEPE
Mr Meyer, may I interpose, just to get clarity on what he's saying with regard to this particular aspect of his evidence?  Is it your evidence that you were instructed to assault in a particular manner or is it your evidence that you were instructed to assault and it would then be your discretion, you would use your discretion as to how you would assault a particular detainee?  Do you get the difference between the two versions?