MR MALAN
Mr Alberts my question relates, we're not arguing that, my question relates to the fact that if we should accept the evidence, that, and I think that's common cause at least for the second part, that at some stage they realised that these people were not perpetrators or part of the enemy, they were simply occupants of the bus, on their evidence, coming from a specific area which on their evidence was an ANC area.
	The argument then, on the evidence is that because they came from that area, if they should be killing them, that would be advancing the cause which is the basis of your whole argument.  The question is, is that not so far removed that it could not be taken into account at all as furthering the objectives through the proceeding with elimination after realising the identity?