MR PRINSLOO
So it was taken by someone else, that decision.  How can that then be placed before the door of the applicants, if they get instructions from somebody high up and say look, this weapon you must destroy, get rid of it.
	We are going to be arrested, and in doing that, obviously the organisation will be found out in that way, isn't that a reasonable decision taken?  That is something with respect Mr Chairman, that cannot be placed before the door of the applicant that I represent.  That is my submission in that regard.