THEMBELANI TANDEKILE XUNDU
If we take a closer look into the way APLA operated, obviously there was supposed to be some transport used for the operation, and it could not be for instance, a car that we know is known by the police, those cars which moved around Umtata and Butterworth, it must be a car which was not known that it was being used by APLA operatives.  So it was in that light that we went to Butterworth.
	We couldn't take that car from King William's Town, we couldn't take that car from East London for obvious security reasons.  You see, we regarded King William's Town, East London, as the heart of the security forces in the Eastern Cape.  I mean, the situation security was a witness for me, there was, I think their headquarters were based in East London, there was also group 8 which was the army base here, so there was a heavy concentration of security forces.
	And to take a car in East London or in King William's Town, we will just be alerting the security forces that they must be hunting for that car and then we couldn't operate in that particular area where they are busy looking for the car.  So those are the facts which drove us to go to Butterworth and find the car.