MR VISSER
Well, Mr Chairman, thank you.
	Yes, as I mentioned before, I will deal with the question of who are members of Security Forces, the whole issue of against which, I think, is something which needs to be dealt with and clarified.
	Mr Chairman, on the question of the evidence, I don't believe that it will serve any purpose for me in attempting even to address the issue right now. The only sensible way of doing that would be with references to the record which we cannot give you now. Certainly I can't do justice in the time remaining to an argument on the probability. It could as easily be addressed on paper. With respect, Mr Chairman, you might not be too disappointed to know that I would submit that at this stage we should perhaps call it a day and we will follow up with written argument.