MR NTSEBEZA
You cannot recall?  But Director Knipe, all I am trying to say to you is that this irreconcilability between public versions of what happened, and what the official response in the form of police denials was, was public knowledge.
 And you are in the eye of the storm, you are entrusted with investigating.  On your own admission all forms of violence, including that violence.  Now I don't want to be (indistinct) with you Director Knipe, you have been extremely helpful to the Commission, what I would like to understand from your testimony, is whether you are saying in so many words, that because you were not handling the specific dockets  you were not able to give instructions specifically for this particular allegations to be investigated fully?