MS THABETHA
To tell you the truth, Judge, I don't remember how it came into my hands, but what I remember is that there was a discussion that transpired between Mr Motsamai and one of our TRC members, where Mr Motsamai explained that he had applied for amnesty or he intended applying for amnesty and he was referred to the offices at the TRC.  This occurred when we were here in Bloemfontein the last time. He was referred to the offices of the TRC where he explained that he had applied for amnesty and wants to make a further statement to that. And then Mr Bosman took the statement.  So I really cannot remember off-hand how the statement got to - how it came to me. I really cannot.