BRIAN QUNA MKHIZE
As I have already explained that Mr Welcome Mtimkhulu was one of the people who were on the hit list because he was rubbing shoulders with the ANC, and there were rumours and suspicions.
	The local leadership had a way of gathering information, which way I do not know, and therefore I don't want to commit myself as to how they gathered the information.
	But certainly there was a way of gathering information, there were also things like BSI which we knew that they had files which they used to follow up ANC leaders.  I would not want to concentrate on that, because it doesn't involve me.
	What information was available at the disposal of the local IFP leadership, was that Mr Mtimkhulu had now become dangerous because he was now rubbing shoulders with people like Khumalo, discussing sensitive dockets as already explained.
	We are now in danger so that what covert operation we were involved in, could now be exposed to people and even our leaders run the risk of being arrested.  We were at war because of that, because we wanted to protect the organisation so that it doesn't end up in trouble, and we did not want to lose our fighting members, it would not be a good idea that these people be arrested.
	That is the reason why Mr Mtimkhulu had to be killed.  I also remember that on the day when he was to be killed, we took Bebebeyela's car, Bebebeyela being a Mayor, it was a Ford Meteor, white and small.  Victor Buthelezi who was his body guard, drove the car for us.
	Victor was in the car, myself, Romeo Mbambo and Joyful Mthetwa, Zweli Dhlamini was also in the car.  There is also another member who was present at the time of the attack, and that is Pios Ndlovu.  He was a Police at the eSikhawini station, also trained at Caprivi.
	On that day, he was there even though I did not like using him in the operations, because of his behaviour but I remember that day we fetched him at the hostel.  There were members from Caprivi who had been trained in the KwaZulu Police.