MR VISSER
All right, now in regard to that list are you able to look at that list and to tell the Committee which of those persons or items, as it were, coincided with the application of Mr Ngo in regard to the 20 to 25 people whom he says were arrested?
	Can I help you, let's start with  Brian Nakedi.  He is clearly not one of those persons, would you agree with me?