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Let me take you back to the Ribeiro matter, I 
think the same facts in the Ribeiro matter would also come 
in here.  Yes, I am told you were not involved in the 
Ribeiro matter, but you were present when the evidence was 
given and cross-examination was done on this Ribeiro matter. 
 That day, it was established that Dr Ribeiro himself was 
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