MR D'OLIVIERA
That is so Mr Chairman.  The difference must be looked at here between what is clearly unlawful and what he believed, whether in the struggle which he is conducting, and I am referring to that in that harsh term, that in actual fact it was right, his actions at that moment.  From his evidence it is quite clear, he realised the unlawfulness of his actions, there is no doubt about it, but subjectively in his mind, if one looks at the pressures to which he was subject to, his belief was this is the right way to go.
	If I may add here, there is another issue which the trial court referred to and that was the, at that time, the quick release of prisoners ...(intervention)