LYN MOTOKO MASETLA
Thank you, Advocate Bosman.  I wasn't necessarily looking it as the approach of the lawyer so to speak, but I notice - I don't want to pursue it further, but I noticed it personally and as I say, I wasn't saying all of them or whatever, some of them have been very kind.  To say hello, I am so and so, it doesn't necessarily reflect that you are being kind to a person or whatever.  But as I say, I wouldn't like it to be a fight or an attitude towards Mr Visser or whatever.  I was just commenting that this is how the family has felt, because of the reasons that I have stated.