CHAIRPERSON
The Khubeka incident hearing will only be commencing tomorrow, Tuesday at this venue.  I'm mentioning it now because I believe there might be some people who are here today who have an interest in that.  So the Khubeka matter will start tomorrow and today we'll deal with the Lalla and Gordhan matter, but before we start I'd just like to briefly introduce the Panel.  On my right is Advocate Bosman, she is a Member of the Amnesty Committee of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.  She is an advocate, she's from the Cape.  On my left is Mr Ilan Lax, he is an attorney from Pietermartizburg, also a Member of the Amnesty Committee and I'm Selwyn Miller, I'm a judge of the High Court attached to the Transkei Division of that court and I'm also a Member of the Amnesty Committee.  I would like the legal representatives to kindly place themselves on record.