MR VISSER
Well we will have a look at that in a moment.  And then it goes on to say where the car bomb was positioned precisely in front of the entrance to the Air Force Headquarters which took the direct impact of the explosion.  "Many military personnel were killed", it says again.
	Now you in your evidence in Exhibit A paragraph 1 also gave statistics.  Please forgive me Mr Chairman this is clearly a wrong reference.  I am sorry what I should be referring to is Annexure C to Exhibit A paragraph 1.  You said this:
"On May 20 1983 a car bomb exploded outside the South African Air Force Headquarters in Church Street Pretoria.  As a result 19 people were killed including 11 Air Force officers.  According to initial media reports more than 200 military personnel and a few civilians were injured".
Now that's slightly different from what we read the ANC submission said, but that's bye-the-bye.  These initial media reports which you referred to here, which were they?  Can you remember?