MR NDIMA
They said okay go to Athlone and we went there.  Even at Athlone we asked the very same questions.  In Athlone we asked who is holding the independence, is it a White man or a Black man?
 Who must give an independence and they said it is a White person who must give an independence to a Black person.  I said how many White people were necklaced just because they are informers?  They said, no, there is no one, there is only one in Port Elizabeth.
 I said I am not asking about Port Elizabeth, I am asking about Cape Town and I asked them why don't you arrest this people, those who are necklacing the others, how many have you arrested, none, that was the answer.
 I made a plea to them that the caspers must leave and you will see whether there will be someone necklaced if I said no, and if there would be anyone dancing next to a dying person on fire.