MR MADASA
Yes, Mr Chair, my difficulty is that I am involved in a part-heard matter in that, in that week in Johannesburg.  And the following Monday, Mr Shongweni, who is also participating in one of the matters which has been postponed, will be attending hearings before the TRC on ANC submissions and, you know, we have a difficulty, there is a difficulty with Ms Thabethe's information to the Committee that the matter has been finalised.  In fact, Mr Mpshe was telling the truth, that during the lunch time certain dates had been mooted, but no conclusion was reached, because in due course we are going to finalise matters.