PIETER JOHANN VERSTER
Chairperson I've already explained to you in which context this happened.  There was a fight between the existing Government and our structure.  Within an audited procedure within a total structure and where the Government had control over us, our lives and also over these specific circumstances, at that stage there was supposed to have been amnesty given to us and this was disputed.  There was - people were sacked and we were prevented from getting to our premises and within this context, these questions were answered and at the end of the day, the question is also:  why was it handled in this way?  This is part of what I have said here already.