MR WILLS
I will go through all the evidence, I'm not denying, it's inconsequential to me that, I'm not denying that, I'm just wanting to know, I realise that other people were involved.  Sorry, if I, I'm not trying to mislead you, I'm trying to get to the bottom of this.  I realise that there were possibly other people involved.  That is your evidence.  I realise what your evidence is but when was that decision to eliminate taken?  That's what I want to know.