TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  There are some the things that trouble me and they disturb me, especially the one that was spoken by Methana.  It is true she was very young, and the way she put it here on the stage she did not put it thoroughly.  At that time I was the leader because they had their trust on me, and such things trouble me.  At times I feel like my body - my life is not important than other people's lives.  Even today their life is still very low.  Some of their problems I take and make them mine, and I do not consider my problems.  Please try to - I am that kind of a person.  I talk this and I forget about the others.  I have been in many leadership positions, and the ANC came into being and it was totally a new thing again.  It really frustrates me too, and I get confused at times.  But some of the things if you can indicate then I will tell you everything.  I have got a lot of things to tell.