CHAIRPERSON
Mr Visser, the problem is some of the questions which perhaps Mr Black asked, are the questions which perhaps I might not have asked and one always hopes that when a question is being asked there is a reason for it, and one would keep on being optimistic and thinking that maybe that some foundation is being laid for the purpose of argument and the like. But I think Mr Black, you heard what Mr Visser is saying, and do you want to comment on that?