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I went to that other boy who's mother -  what is her name now, I can't quite remember - I've forgotten now but her son's name is Johannes.  And he said  that my boy had been killed in Tanzania in one of these camps and that Johannes had been shot dead at the airport - we don't really know what happened.  So I went to Johannes's mother and I went with her to St Paul's Church,  that's where the PAC's also work.  We went there and we told them what we had heard and they told us, this Joba man - he  said yes he knew him and had seen him in Lesotho but after that never saw him again and he told us to go to another secretary.  I think it was Tsidi - he told us to go to Tsidi.  
We found Tsidi and Tsidi went to a lot of trouble, he went to Lesotho to try and find out what had happened to our children.  When he came back he told us that he just heard that they were in Tanzania, but that he was going to try and find out from the PAC offices in Johannesburg - to find out.  
When he came back he said he said that  they did not really want to tell him the truth about our children and we tried everything, we went to the Red Cross for instance to ask them to help us to look for our children.  The Red Cross also tried various avenues, but to no avail.  All the people who left with my son returned, but my son never returned.