MR DORFLING
: Let me try and make it clear.  You made this application and you filled in the form prior to you giving evidence.  You testified when giving evidence at the Shell House inquest that in your mind your perception was that you would not have hit any person because of the gun jerking upwards.  If that was your honest belief at the time of you giving evidence at the inquest on, I think towards the 20th of May, then it couldn't have been that at the 10th of May when you submitted your application you put in an application under oath that you might have injured or hit anybody.  That possibility didn't exist in your mind at the time Sir.  That is what I'm putting to you.  It shows a clear lie.