MR VISSER
May I please Mr Chairman, just to put the record straight, speaking of affidavits, we did also hand in affidavits of the clients for whom we appear and whose names you just read.  I believe that Mr Chairman - for what it's worth, they were handed to my learned friend Mr Mpshe and I think he did inform us that they were before you, so if there's anything you're obviously free to refer to those affidavits if there's anything that arises which we don't expect but I just want to make the point that there are also affidavits from my clients before you, thank you Mr Chairman.