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Chairperson, I think the lack of knowledge in the handling of informers and their actions is clear here.  If there was a prosecution and Charles was willing to testify and we had to disclose him, because it was a process which we had to go through, then he would have been back in society without any problems, but we went one step further by proposing that he could establish himself elsewhere so he could be safe and circumstances determined decisions and emotions of people and in hindsight there is much we could have don different, but given that moment, one makes decisions on the emotions of other people, as well as your own.  And that is the only manner in which I can explain that.