ADV LOURENS
At that, that is so Mr Chairman, and at the time the evidence also was or just prior to the shooting of the domestic worker, that she was screaming, while they were in the house there was, somebody shouted "sout" which is the warning, because there was a white combi approaching.  So it was not as though they were there and there was nobody coming or that they did not have any reason to fear that they would be caught or imminently caught.