ADV DE JAGER
That is something which the Committee will have to decide upon, whether their time is actually being wasted Mr Cook.  It isn't actually for you to say the time is being wasted, we will decide that matter. You can make submissions in this regard which we will listen to but ultimately it is for us, for the Committee to decide whether there is a necessity or the justification for whatever is going to happen and whether there was no appearance on Thursday  and we can only make such decisions when we have all the facts.