MR VAN DEN BERG
I have consulted telephonically with a former Warrant Officer Tiedt, that's T-i-e-d-t, Mr Chairperson, who was with the Brixton Murder and Robbery Unit and with Captain Hoed.  Other than items 1 and 2 on the narrative, that's the armed robbery of Brett Hilton Barber and the death of John Dodds, these two gentlemen have personal knowledge of each of the crimes enumerated there.  I put it to you that each and every one of those crimes involved Monde Gadebe.  Can you comment on that?