ERNEST PHUMUZI SIGASA
The report - well firstly, the security personnel works every day, seven days a week, and particularly Saturdays.  Head of departments on the Security Branch would in fact meet and give reports, so we knew that they were meeting frequently, almost every week.
	After that of course they would then go to whatever place that they would go to, but in particular in this case we are talking about the place in question, Wimpy, they then happened to go to.
	To add probably is that some of the detainees themselves, they used to order, if my memory serves me well, they used to order for detainees from Wimpy, if my memory serves me well.  But you would understand as I'm saying if my memory serves me well, because this thing happened more or less 9/10 years ago but I'm trying to strike a total recall and so that I would have a total picture.