MR STEPHENS
Can I just read this quickly?  Okay I've said here,
"And when the group got to De Villiers Street, you cannot recall seeing any Policemen in the vicinity of the group?  No, I do not know.  What I can remember is there was a couple of Policemen there, whether they moved around the corner or went away, I do not know."
That's what I'm saying, so by the time the marchers got there, the policemen moved away.  Does it not say there, unless I'm reading it incorrectly, I don't know, your Worship - Chairman.