MR TIPP
Mr Chairman, evidence is being placed before the Committee now in respect implicitly of the credibility of a number of witnesses who are being enumerated by Mr Dorfling.  Other than Mr Von Eggerdy who was accepted by all parties as having been a credible witness and whose evidence could strongly be relied upon, the other witnesses were all challenged and Mr Chairman, I can assure you that substantial submissions were made in respect of their credibility and their contractions.  We would be most loath, Mr Chairman, to be drawn into a situation in the course of these proceedings to cross-examination of this sort of having to debate all that unnecessarily and unproductively before this Committee.