MR SHEIN
Mr Commissioner, if I might just state that the instructions Sir, he's not trying to abuse any process or trying to avoid a prosecution.  And the fact that if I had not mentioned that he would rely on the defence of self-defence, from my questioning and from leading him and from cross-examination of this applicant, it would be clear from that evidence that self-defence is going to be relied on because he would then disclose it in his testimony anyway.  I just did this before he disclosed it, with respect.