MR DIAZ
Mr Chairman, it would appear to me that this aspect of my submission would be conjecture but I think it is increasingly known in today's circles, political circles particularly and given the volatile political life that we live in South Africa, that the applicant is talking amidst a whole series of persons from open public and if he were granted amnesty, he would have to now join the ...(inaudible) of the open public and if you are totally honest perhaps in saying things as Mrs Kuzwayo wants the Committee to believe, that he clearly directly shot Zazi Kuzwayo and Mrs Mkhize wants this Commission to believe that he directly killed Mr Mkhize, then I think he would suffer a degree of negativism from the public, put at best as negativism.
	He may be rejected in society and I think he's drawn the conclusion between being absolutely truthful and being acceptably truthful in order that if the application were successful, he can be released in open society and not suffer the scorpion bite of society.  
	Under those circumstances, what I was endeavouring to achieve was to endorse the sentiments expressed by the learned Judge, included in the Judgement, not failing to understand that he has been convicted but simply saying that, having regard to his application today, I would endorse those sentiments as being applicable even today.  And the learned Judge as mentioned on 92 says:
"We reject his evidence as being false"
I submit that, that finding can well be made, even today, thank you Mr Chairperson.