JEREMY CRONIN
Yes, he said it would be wrong to go - what he was saying was that it would be wrong to go over into offensive violence, to deploy violence for strategic purposes - that we did in 1961 without - openly, with no fudging and confusion as to whether there was a subjective view or whether there were three different views as to whether we were involved in armed violence or not.
	We were involved in armed struggle from 1961, we deployed armed struggle for political purposes, it was a strategic political option we took and from 1990 we stopped that, there was no strategic deployment violence for political ends.  But that people had the right to self-defence is in any case as I understand - I'm not a lawyer, but it is a common-law right that people have and therefore it was - yes, people had the right to defend ...[indistinct]