CHAIRPERSON
Makhuvha Ndouvhada, thank you so much for coming.  I think you are a very lucky man to have escaped death and you must thank the Venda Police for having saved your life.  Witchcraft is one of those inexplainable myths that we are still struggling to understand in our culture.  There is not much we can say about it, but we are happy that you are alive today to tell the story.  I just wanted to find out, if you receive any state pension at the moment?