EUGENE ALEXANDER DE KOCK
Chairperson, there were no planning as such, but the source would keep Mr Pienaar up to date with regard to infiltrations, or the possible planning thereof.  At two opportunities, it may be more, I could be corrected here, but I drove from Island Rock to Mbazwana Police Station, which I think was about 25 or 30 kilometres from Island Rock, and from there I had contact with Mr Freek Pienaar.  The reason therefore was that if an infiltration did take place while we were busy with this meeting, then a group of my people would leave to assist them.