MR JANSEN
Yes, Mr Chairman.  I've got my 1981 directory of Security Police, the whole of the country.  We had a headquarters section which consisted of the officer commanding, which was General Johan Coetzee at that stage, Major General Johan Coetzee.  Then his senior staff officer or 2IC, Brigadier J A du Preez, Jan du Preez.  And then it was divided into subsections from group A, Group B, group C and D, E, F and G, and some of these divisions, like A, was again subdivided up to A5 - A1, A2, A3, A4 and A5.  B was divided up to B3.  C was only section C1.