MR VAN DER MERWE
Chairperson, I don't want to labour this  point, could I just rephrase this question?  Mr Menera, before you committed this act and you had known that these people would have been killed, and as you also testified and the next day everybody in Brandfort knows what had happened  and who committed it. How did you view the advantage for yourself and your colleagues in the context of the future Brandfort after the Phelane householding were killed?