BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
I am referring to Mr Venter's case.  We have been told at the commencement of the hearing, that he was arrested in connection with Mr Venter's killing around February 1989, now what I want to know from you in order to have certain things cleared in my mind, I want to know whether at any time, you thought that Mr Ngo was arrested before or at the time when Mr Rammalo was brought there?