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Okay, because I want to put it to you or just for 
your comment, my information is, and maybe we will test this with 
whoever is going to be called to give us maybe some expert evidence 
on where, how these cartridges land up there, is that when you are a 
position of four to five, or even six metres away and you are firing 
like Mr Madasi was firing with an R4 rifle, then it is quite possible, 
and in fact it would happen that these cartridges could land some 
four to six metres away from where you fire.