PATRICK NDLUMBINI
Yes, as I - I am from Tanzania, so Comrade Hani he arrived there in Tanzania to brief us about this, that they are going to form - the organisation will form the self-defence unit because the people are going inside the country, and then in South Africa, they don't allow us to come with our equipment.  So they are going to form the self-defence units. So I was aware that the ANC is going to form this self-defence units.