MR AMEEN
May I just clarify something with my clients (indistinct)?  Thank you Mr Chairman.  I just clarified something with my clients, they say that there was - one of them was shot once, he survived, the other was shot three time, he received three bullets in his body, he survived, but he was also shot a further seven time, seven bullets were fired at him but those bullets did not hit him and that they are adamant that they were made to sit the way I described to you earlier, their backs towards the wall of the Shawella beer hall, facing you?