GEORGE BIZOS
Part A and part B, very well.  I'm a bit worried about A, because I don't want it to be confused with bundle A, but if we could call it A and B, I have no problem.  So it's A144 and B336, 338 and 342.  That is where you will find the evidence why we say that this is what they said.
	The B references are references to the evidence of Mr Calla Botha.  The B references, 336, 338, 342 are - we will come to it later, I merely want to give you an overview, Mr Chairman, those relate to the evidence of Mr Calla Botha.  And what we draw attention to and the reason why we give you those references there is because of Mr Coetzee's submission that Mr Calla Botha didn't know the purpose.  Well, his submission is not well founded, because Mr Calla Botha in these paragraphs went out of his way in support of the main contention that it was merely to frighten them.  So he was supportive in this regard.  But we will come and examine it ...(intervention)