MR LOWIES IN REPLY
Chairman, I would submit that at this stage for the purposes of prayer number 3, it's not strictly relevant.  It may be a motivation to bring, and I want to stress this, it may be a motivation to bring the declarator in terms of prayer number 3, but the applicants' point is the following; the law is not clear and if you decided you are bound, a certain aspect will have to be canvassed then, if you decide that you are not, then we proceed as the matter ...  That is simply put, the attitude of the applicants.  I don't think that it is necessary for you at this stage to make a finding as to whether or not there is bias, and we're not asking for you, for sure we're not asking you.  We say it may be a motivation in bringing this application, but it is not an issue that you have to make a decision on.