BETHUEL MONDLI ZUMA
It is for this reason that I said to you I was monitoring closely the political situation and the reason why I mention these two is because they were the ones who were articulating this position and it was also the spokesperson of the IFP, Sibajiani at the time who was articulating these views and I never heard any Induna articulating that - it is for this reason now that I'm telling you I do not know whether you are saying they were Indunas.  If they were Indunas, then I agree.  If Sibjiani's an Induna then I agree.