MR KAHANOVITZ
I never remember it being put by your representative to Mr van Zyl, that the suggestion that you were present at that meeting was wrong.  But it actually goes further, because Mr van Zyl at page 116, paragraph 55 - no I'm sorry, it's not a reference to you.  I withdraw that question.
	Mr van Zyl's continuous references to "the man from the medical regiment", what is your understanding of it?  Who is "the man from the medical regiment"?