MR MARTINI
I don't want to interfere but I can't see the relevance of this line of questioning.  Factually in terms of the Act, the Act says the Commission must consider whether there's been a full disclosure of all the relevant facts, what is the relevance of what would have happened had someone died?  Factually we know no-one died.  And I make this general statement Chairperson, because I see we're in the third week now and there is a Section in the Act, Section 34, where the Commission may limit cross-examination in order to expedite proceedings.
	Now Chairperson, I'm making this statement since most of my learned colleagues here, we are from Johannesburg, we do not have the benefit of returning to chambers to do consultation work and catch up on chamber work and we've been here a long time and I think we should put some limit on the cross-examination, there should be some relevance to the cross-examination.  What would have happened to Mr van Zyl and Mr Botha had someone died, what is the relevance when we know?  Unless Mr Bizos can produced evidence that someone died with this explosion, then I can't see the relevance of this line of cross-examination.  This can take us here for another five weeks Chairperson, if we're going to carry on at this rate.  I think, Chairperson, you have the power within Section 34 to limit the cross-examination, really.  Otherwise I can see these proceedings continuing for months.