JOHANNES AFRICA MASWENG HLAPO
Let me begin here.  Why I believe that Carol Plaatjies didn't know me, I was staying in Guguletu and I was not frequenting Nyanga East regularly.  First of all, why I am saying that Carol Plaatjies was lying, it is because she lied about Oscar Mpetha.  She said that Oscar Mpetha went to Crossroads and he was there and he raised his fists and said "Amandla".
	The fact of the matter is, what made Oscar Mpetha become a part of our case, it is because Oscar Mpetha on the 12th, he made a statement to the Cape Times, or Argus and said "It is not the youth that is provoking the police, it is the police that are provoking the youth".  And Oscar Mpheta on the 13th of the same month, he was arrested and something was made up that Oscar Mpetha should become part of this trial.  And I will say and I am still saying that Carol Plaatjies was a very intelligent State witness and indeed she was very intelligent at the age of 15, the way they taught her because she definitely lied.  I was there, there was no old man there, not even a single old man, let alone Oscar Mpetha.  Oscar Mpetha is known all over Nyanga East and Guguletu.