MR VAN ZYL
No, it was not discussed, we specifically still mentioned that earlier the evening there would have been a karate class at this hall and it specifically told to me to ascertain that no children were to be present in the hall when the explosion took place.  So in other words, we took precautionary measures to try to limit loss of life and injuries.  We did not want to go and kill these people, I think if we wanted to do it we could have done it in another manner that might have been more effective.