CHAIRPERSON
No, I am considering that we have already 
passed that stage of the ANC's struggle, we are talking about a 
stage where there were these negotiations at Codesa.  At that 
stage where the major role players were involved in discussing 
what should happen to the future of this country, a group did not 
view the proceedings at Codesa as serving their purpose.
	That view of that group and the conduct of its members in 
resorting to violence, does that mean that we must come to the 
conclusion that there was a climate of war, when the majority of 
the people and the other groups were trying to negotiate and one 
group from outside, were not?  Does that mean there was a 
climate of war in the country?