MR HATTINGH
Mr Chairman, I can do as much as I can.   I think what I would like to say is, he contradicts his motive.   In the one instance in his application his motive is one of self-defence, now he contradicts himself in his evidence today and his motivation was, he today gives it as being one of a command or instruction from his MK commander.  That I, in my personal opinion, considered a contradiction.