CHAIRPERSON
I know the situation in relation to askaris who carried out various types of operations, their manner of payment was a bonus.  There was almost a tariff, you know R7 000 for a takeout and R3 000 for an abduction, that sort of thing, and they got paid ex post facto for what they had done, and the Amnesty Committee has granted amnesty to askaris, because that was the manner of payment, they way they got paid.  I don't know if it's right or wrong, but I'm just saying that askaris got paid on the same fashion, about being paid bonuses for work done.