MR DU PLESSIS
Mr Chairman, I'm pointing that out for purposes of the improbability of him being involved in the security branch.  He would have known when he worked with Bokaba, according to his own evidence for more than two years, he would have known when Bokaba was a Constable and when he was a Sergeant.  	And according to this he was demoted, I'm just pointing that out for what the value of that was.  The answer was however put into the witnesses mouth by my learned friend and I won't take it further than that unless the Committee wants the witness to answer to this.