MR SAMUEL
Right.  Let's go to paragraph 20 of Exhibit G.  Now Jimmy Mbane in his statement also says that he was the driver of the motor vehicle, of the kombi on that day, we don't know exactly what date that was, when you all had killed a person and through the body at the Executive Hotel,  now the only reason - although we want to restrict ourselves to the Kubheka matter, the only reason I'm questioning you on this is because you had raised this matter.  Jimmy Mbane will say that he drove the kombi on that day.