MS GOZA
Mr Chair, could I get the opportunity to explain the circumstances.  My colleague went and consulted in Victor Verster on Saturday - on that day I was not there, he drafted the statements on Sunday.  Those statements were produced in these hearings unsigned on Monday.  We all did not have an opportunity to have a look at those statements.  Insofar as this may be important for the full disclosure requirement that the applicant has to meet, I request that it be put on record that in my instructions when I consulted him, that is what he had always said.  Thank you.