MR DORFLING
So whoever made that input with regard to the Goldstone Submissions told an untruth?  I'll leave it at that Mr Chairman.
	Mr Kruser dealing with the attack and the time immediately prior to what you call the search forward and the attack on the guards you made mention of a so called war cry?  If I understand your evidence correctly, your evidence is that Mr Mondli Zuma actually explained to you that what the people are doing, they are doing a certain war dance or war cry - is that right?