MR LUBBE
Although you don't have an independent recollection of his name, can you relate to the incident that is being described in the bundle by Mr Hlongwane?  And if so, please give us your version of what happened here.
MR SEEMISE
"Mxobogazi had issued out an instruction that the ANC youth should be attacked and killed.  We then left from Charles Maseko's home.  As we were near the sports ground and the Kati township, we saw one boy approaching.  He looked familiar because of the way he walked, but I wanted to ascertain and be certain that it was him.  I then proceeded and met him, approached him and greeted him and confirmed that yes, this was the person.  I then signalled to Sugar to that effect and he proceeded to shoot him.
		From there we went to report back to Mxobogazi that we had killed an ANC youth member.  I was not certain of his name, but I was sure that he was an ANC members because I would see him at ANC gatherings.  On the following day we learnt that yes, he had died."