MR LAX
Just before you go on Mr Cachalia, he hasn't actually answered your question, your first question.  Mr Ndlovu, we weren't there.  We want you to try and help us.  The question was, was something administered to your hand?  You said this was the first time it had happened to you.  That was your answer.  Did they put a liquid on your hand?  What did they do?  We weren't there.  We want you to explain to us please.