ADV GCABASHE
Paddy, if I can just go, just one step back.  Mr Mbambo, I have a real difficulty here you know with some of the evidence that you have just given in relation to what was true, what was not true, where you were trying to protect yourself by implicating your co-applicant, Mr Ncamazana.
	How do I as a Committee member, think about granting you amnesty when it is so difficult to determine whether you are just protecting yourself once again by saying all of these things or whether this is in fact the truth.  Just help me through that and explain to me how I think about these things, as we deliberate on this matter?