CHAIRPERSON
Sorry, just before you respond to Judge Pillay, Mr Dehal, if one takes a look at Section 29(5), no person other than a Commissioner, a member of staff or any person required to produce any article or give evidence, shall be entitled to attend any investigation, that is a Section 29 hearing, right?  The Commission may having due regard to the principles of openness and transparency, declare that any article produced or information furnished at such investigation, shall not be made public until the Commission determines otherwise or in the absence of such determination, until the article is produced or the information is furnished at a hearing in terms of this Act or in any proceedings in any court of law.  What is your interpretation of that?