EUGENE MARAIS
That's right it was big news.  Everybody was very upset and literally every person whom I met then and in the days afterwards was talking about it.  I just want to make it clear - I heard in the previous testimony, previous evidence to the "alleged" PAC members.  You must understand that on that day, we were reacting to news reports on the media.
The first report I listened to that morning referred to members of the PAC breaking into a shop, stole knives and summarily attacked Whites.  In other words it's not that we -  hadn't heard that it was possible, or hoped that it might be so - this is what we believed happened and that was how the news was relayed to us.  For the rest of the day I saw Mr Botha a couple of times.  He told me that I should come to his home that evening, and that is what I did.