EUGENE ALEXANDER DE KOCK
Yes, Chairperson, it gives us an early warning so that people can arrange their weapons and you do last minute tests, is your magazine in properly, is the weapon cocked, is the safety off.  And on that evening it was either zero degrees Celsius or minus that and I think all the members put their firearms down against trees or branches and had their hands under their arms.  One does not use gloves, well me in any event and not my member use gloves when you shoot.