MR VAN DER BERG
You will see the heading
"Everything's over.  The bodies of the AWB members were lying next to a blue Mercedes Benz for about a half an hour before it was taken away".
	Here you can see the action is over.  You can see from the photographs, firstly the photograph right in the front.  Mr Wolfaardt is still lying there with his left hand over his right hand and you'd see Mr Uys' right hand is still raised and his left hand fell as soon as the shot was fired.  That is what is evidence front the photographs. 
	Now Mr Menyatsoe, if you dispute these photographs, we'll also show the video.  It's quite evident on the video, the positions of the men's hands.  Now I put it to you that you are saying in your version that one of the men moved their hands towards a firearm, is not true at all, it's a blatant lie and you are blatantly lying to this Amnesty Commission today.