MR PRINSLOO
With respect Mr Chair,  many large military operations which were planned, which were planned also by members of the ANC, I can refer you to specific cases, where I would have described them as very badly planned, to the same extent as here, but with respect Your Honour, the fact of the matter was that these people had gone with the objective of obtaining firearms, with a political motive.
	The fact that the action and planning went array, could certainly not be blamed on the applicant, because any action where one robs a bank, or goes to do some other thing, things can go wrong and that is the reason why so many people are in jail, because these things have gone wrong.
	The fact that they could have planned it differently, could also be blamed on them, but it doesn't have any other purport for the purposes of this application, as to what the applicants wished to do.