MR ZILWA
That is - I'm quite aware of that, Mr Chairman, the argument I'm advancing is just a caviller, so to speak, it's over and above the requirements of the Act, even if it could be said that strictly speaking it had to fall within the furtherance of the interests of the ANC, that is not even a requirement.  But what I'm saying is, even if the requirements of the Act were more stringent than what they in fact are, the applicants would still be falling within the purview of the category that should be granted amnesty.