MR CORNELIUS
That is quite correct Mr Chairman, but as far as the askaris were concerned, it was a totally different kettle of fish, only in this respect that the poor people were taken in and they had virtually no decision, they were either killed or they were used.  They either stayed loyal to the cause, to the new cause and then the knowledge which they had obviously of the secret operations of the ANC or the PAC, whoever they came from, was utilised to the benefit of the C-Section of the Police, so it was a form of compensation and also obviously to keep them and to buy them with money.