MR HATTINGH
No, Mr Chairman, 19.8(b) I believe is a section which tells us that at the stage when a public hearing like this commences all the documentation, everything, the whole box of information obtained during the course of investigations and applications should be made available to us.  That's what it deals with in 19.8(b).  I believe that the section dealing with the privilege comes later.  If you'd just give me a moment to find that.