JACQUES HECHTER
He was a subject of the Unit, he was did not fall under my direct field of 
expertise, so I did not work with Unions and if he was to have been dealt with, it would have been dealt 
with by the members of the Union Units.  What I knew about Joe Tsele is, as I told you, the information 
which you got from your informants, sometimes overflowed and all that you did, is you would contact the 
Union Unit and after you rewrote your report from your informant, you sent them a copy and said that Joe 
Tsele was there when he was spotted in this meeting.
	So you would inform people from other disciplines, you would pick up their names and then you 
would merely inform the other Units.  That is how I came to know about Joe Tsele, but I did not work with 
him directly.
PRETORIA HEARING	AMNESTY/