MR WILLS
(Indistinct) that you had certain dealings with some Inkatha Youth and by them I refer to Nkanalipho Mtenjwa, Lucky Mbuyazi and Syabonga Mbuyazi.  Now you've indicated in para 96 that they conducted certain attacks as well in Esikhawini against ANC members in your absence, and that you had nothing to do with these attacks.  And you've indicated in your affidavit that they reported to you a particular incident when one time during 1993 they conducted an attack where 11 people were killed at a shebeen, or near a shebeen.  Sorry, I'm just going to check that if the Commission will bear with me.  I'm not sure about the number, but they conducted attacks which involved the killing of many people in your absence.  Now you indicate that you had nothing to do with those particular attacks.  Is that correct?