CHAIRPERSON
Well let me ask you this first, Mr Hattingh, before we go further, if I were to allow you to quote from that document and make propositions to the witness, would you be happy with what his answer is, and if his answer is yes, that it was his utterances and pointings out, etcetera, and it was made freely and voluntarily, then we go further.  If, on the other hand, he indicates to us and he answers, "Look, that's not my pointing out or my utterances and/or I didn't make it freely and voluntarily", you'd be stuck with that and that would be the end of the matter.   What would your attitude be to that proposition?