MR MOHAPE
I knew Mamome, I think after 1986.  I started to know Mamome when he was joining them like - I don't know where he has been, either he has been in those offices or whatever, but they was going against him, going to me and I will see him being part of them, that's how I knew Mamome.  And I think that happened mainly generally after, you know, that the experience of the kidnapping.