JOE MAMASELA
Mr Chairman with due respect, I've already elaborated in full detail that Warrant Officer, Colonel Venter gave us full instructions that there are these people that are making the township ungovernable in Port Elizabeth, we should go there and help with the abduction and the elimination.
	We left together with him to Port Elizabeth and he further called us to Port Elizabeth police station and where we helped the people there with the investigation and ultimately we were briefed by the Port Elizabeth security police in front of Mr Venter who also added.
	 And he's the one who gave us instructions to go back to the bases and he is the one who fetched us at the bases and to the airport.  So you played the major ...[indistinct] role in the whole thing.