ADV DE JAGER
Mr Smuts, suppose we wouldn't believe them on the whole AWB question, but we've got the following objective facts.  Mr Hani was killed, there was a reaction throughout the country because of the killing of Mr Hani.  It's also a fact that Mr Hani was killed by a white person.  It's also a fact that our history caused a division between whites and blacks and black people were perceived as enemies in general, not in particular and whites in general without referring to particular people as the opposition, the two sides involved in this political struggle.  They now testify and suppose we agree that we can't accept everything they've said, but can we reject the evidence that they acted or planned something in reaction to the killing of Mr Hani?