MR HLONGWANE
: Thereafter, Shakes took me - I don't remember whether it was Shakes or Gadebi, but when we actually killed him, I was with Shakes.   Gadebi told me that Shakes was going to identify this boy to me.   We went to the shop.   A shop called Renkins and he showed me the boy.   The boy went into the shop and then came out.   I looked for this boy for a while and we didn't find him.   One day I was with Shakes in a location called Chippies.   We were at a shebeen and Shakes told me that Gindinga was there at the shebeen.   We waited for him outside.   When he came out I saw him.   He was with another boy and then I shot him.  Afterwards we left.   The important thing that I was also present at his funeral.   His mother was telling us to hurry.   I was surprised when I heard that his mother alleged that she didn't know anything about his death, whereas in fact she did know.