MR SHANE
Right, firstly Mr Chairman the reason is, number one, Sally Sealy, I cannot get hold of her, she's not available.  That's number one.  I prepared this affidavit, the applicant was in my office late yesterday afternoon, I prepared the affidavit, he came this morning, and he signed, and it was interpreted to him again, hence the changes that were made.  Now I cannot get hold of Sally Sealy but whatever, I submit with the greatest respect Mr Chairman, that whatever the Commission wants to know, can be elicited from the applicant while he is under oath.
	I will submit with the greatest respect, that on this before you there is, on a balance of probabilities, at the very least on a balance of probabilities, you can find that he, on the deadline day, he signed his application for amnesty.  It was taken.  He was with numerous, all the applicants.  If you look all these applications before you ...(intervention)