CHAIRPERSON
And on the occasion when they went to his house, on one occasion, somebody assaulted him but Motsamai does not know who.  He does not refer to any other specific assault at the building, does he?  You remember you took, you carefully led Motsamai to the list of names.  After he explained what it was, you started with Brian Nagedi and he says there,
"It is true he appeared on the fourth floor and that unit he was assaulted by whom, I do not know who took part in the assault, but when he left the office, came to our office he was swollen.",
and so he goes on.  
"Some people ...".
He says,
"We made him do frog jumps, we made him do push-ups.  These are things we did to harass people."
He admits to taking part in the harassment and torture of some people and others he says, I do not know.  Now, he is not asking for amnesty in respect of those offenses, is he?