MR TAKA
Thank you, Mr Chairman, I will do that.  Mr Chairman, I have express instructions from the victims in count 3, that is the Wesselsbron explosion.  They've indicated that in principle they do not object to the granting of amnesty and they've also indicated that they would like to approach the Reparations Committee later on for the necessary compensation.  I will not make any submission insofar as the granting of amnesty in this particular hearing, because my instructions are that there should be no objection, Mr Chairperson.