BOY VUSIMUZI GWAMANDA
That's very true, Judge.  You see as I'm telling you here, there are some who are wise who were members of AWB.  I will not make that mistake to point at somebody and say he was an AWB member.  There are many Colonels, like Stanwyk(?), quite a number of them and the commanders as well.  I even know their houses but as for these ones I know even from their language, the language they use and the uniforms they always wore, like khaki, I knew very well that those were AWB members and I knew.
	I will never pick on them and say they were AWB members.  I know very well that they were AWB members and there were some many other whites who were working at the prison and I will never say they were AWB members but as for these ones ...[intervention]