MR LANDMAN
Mr Chairman I have a few brief comments.  Mr Chairman in the first place it's now become quite obvious that there is a fundamental contradiction between the versions put up by the first two applicants and Mr Dumakude about the position of Mr Dumakude and Mr Matshididi when the explosion actually occurred.  Now Mr Chairman although this is not a trial, I would submit that it may well be necessary for me to put Mr Matshididi's version as to where they were at the time that the explosion occurred, although it was mentioned during the Committee's questioning of Mr Dumakude yesterday.