CHAIRPERSON
Yes.  I've got no idea of there being further applications by the applicant, Mr Avenant, all I know is what is in front of us in the documentation.  But maybe during the lunch adjournment, which will be very shortly, I see it's 1 o'clock now, you can perhaps discuss this matter with Mr Mapoma.  When you say that it could be dealt with administratively, are you meaning the nature of the incidents don't involve gross human rights violations, or that there'd have to be another hearing to be held?