MR HLONGWANE
: I left eSikhawini for Ulundi and I spoke to MZ directly in his office, and he  I spoke to him directly, that is MZ Khumalo.   After having spoken to him, he then took me to Mangeti, that's a place.   He actually took me to ...(indistinct), that's a shop.   The shop belongs to Mr Mashubani.