MR MAPOMA
Yes I appreciate it, thank you Chairperson.  Chairperson, I will not be addressing the Honourable Committee on the acts of torture, unlawful detention
and arrest of those persons who were political activists in Transkei then but Chairperson, I would like to draw the attention of the Honourable Committee to the events that took place in the Jafta family's homestead, in particular, Chairperson, the act of destruction of the house and the shop of the Jaftas.
	It is my submission, Chairperson, that the applicant does not qualify for amnesty in respect of those acts if at all he applies for amnesty in respect therefore.  I have not heard submissions being made in respect of that particular activity.  I am saying this, Chairperson, because the political objective which was intended to be achieved by going to the Jafta's homestead was to apprehend persons who were perceived or who were referred to as terrorists and upon arrival there the incident took place.  The applicant was asked more than one time as to who exactly was responsible for the burning down of the house and the shop.  He said that it was TDF and anti-riot unit and the security branch from East London.  He did not refer to the security branch from Transkei at all and then he boldly says that "I was part of that operation."  	
	Chairperson, it is my submission that that is not sufficient for him to be claiming responsibility for that or to be found liable for that and under cross-examination, Chairperson, he was even asked why was the house burned down and the shop.  He said in response that he does not know because the terrorists whom they were looking for were in the forest at that time.  He went on, Chairperson, to say that the house was burned down after Boy Jafta was already apprehended.  That is his evidence.  Given those circumstances, Chairperson, it is my respectful submission that no explanation could be given at this point as to why exactly that property was destroyed and I submit, Chairperson, with respect that the act of destruction of those properties was completely disproportionate to the intended objective.