ROBERT JOHN MCBRIDE
Yes, information which I received days after and at a later stage, was that there was, the two oil refineries contacted each other and the one indicating to the other, that there is an explosion at the feeder pipe, and that they should close off the valves, and I think it was Engen informed BP ...(indistinct), no, it is not ours, so there was a dispute.  The result was that a lot of oil leaked out and burnt.  The canal was then destroyed also, from the heat it cracked up and they had to fly in a special chemical to put out the fire.  It burnt for about 12 hours anyway, it was quite substantial.  I think in the trial they said R1 million, or something like that.  But I imagine it might have been more.