SATHYANDRANATH RAGUNANAN MAC MAHARAJ
No, I'm not going to tell you.  You'll have to extract it.  I come here on Thursday, I am seen by two people representing two families and their first concern is "Have you seen Mr Botha's statement?" and I am concerned, "How long is this going to take?"  Mr Botha starts giving evidence.  Breaks are concentrating on the evidence of Mr Botha.  There are two versions and you will recall that I left in the middle of the cross-examination because the TRC could not give me a schedule when they want me here.  So it is in that context that reference was made to material that I have, neither of the two legal representatives had the time to look at my information.  And I have come back this morning under the same circumstances, Sir.  I come back this morning, through a phone call over the weekend to say, be here in the morning, short cross-examination and then  you are in the box.  So I fly in at 8 o'clock and right now at lunch time I spent more time phoning my office in Pretoria, in Johannesburg to say "I can't be there tomorrow.  Cancel my this appointment and that appointment, including the Governor of the Central Bank".