MR VAN DEN BERG
Can I refer you in bundle B to page 8 and 9 of the bundle?  Do you see that?  It's a newspaper cutting of the 2nd November 1993.  Mr Chairperson, it appears to be an extract from The Citizen but I cannot confirm that but there is written, you'll see in the second column, C.I.T., these clippings are all extracts from the clipping service at the Star and it appears to be a clipping from The Citizen on the 2nd November 1993.