JOHANNES HENDRIK VAN DYK
Yes.  We carried him for about 20 metres in a northerly direction in the river bed, and as has already been testified, we placed him on his back.
	Mr Erwee tried to make him as comfortable as possible.  I went and sat at the person's head, between Erwee and Fuchs, I sat right at his head.  If he was laying in front of me and this was his head, I sat right at his head.  I think Mr Fuchs was on my right and Mr Erwee on my left.
	There were other people standing around us during the interrogation and I saw that the person was severely injured, that he was full of blood and I had a tape recorder, the tape recording advice.  I have an example here with me, it is about the same type of this, a very small machine which has a built in microphone.
	We often use this to tape interviews with informers or did questioning to be able to get the information on tape for later use.