MR DORFLING
Thank you, Mr Chairman.  I think Mr Bizos' objections to the particulars supplied could basically be dealt with under three headings which I would very briefly like to deal with.  The first being, that Mr Bizos is of the view that the position set out in the answer to a reply for further particulars   pertaining to the specific factual situation and the legal grounds on which the objectors oppose the applications were not dealt with.  I, with respect, do not agree with that contention.
	What was dealt with in the reply to the request for further particulars is merely a referral to the affidavits by the objectors.  The affidavits by the objectors sets out the factual position on which they rely.  They would, for example, say that, we were not attacking, there was no justification for us being shot at, we were running away at the time when we were being shot at.  
	Whether this falls within the ambit of the provisions of the act under which this Committee considers amnesty is a matter for legal argument and that has exactly been the response from the objectors.  They say, we give the factual evidence, look at the affidavits for that.  As far as the legal position is concerned, that's a matter for legal argument, hence the refusal to supply a legal basis for not supplying that particulars.