CHAIRPERSON
Good afternoon everybody.  I apologise for the late start.  There's some confusion about whether the matter was set down for today or tomorrow and some of the applicants arrived late and I apologise for any inconvenience caused.  We'll be commencing today with the hearings in the matters of R Kasrils in Mncube and Nondula and J Mbuli.  If you wish to benefit from the interpretation, the proceedings will be simultaneously translated, so if you want to benefit from the translation, you must be in possession of one of these devices.  They are available from the sound engineer and before we start I would just like to briefly introduce the Panel to you.  On my right is  Adv Francis Bosman, she comes from the Cape, a member of the Amnesty Committee.  On my left is Mr Jonas Sibanyoni, also a member of the Amnesty Committee.  He is an attorney and he comes from Pretoria and I am Selwyn Miller, I am a Judge of the High Court attached to the Transkei Division of the Court.
	I would at this stage request the legal representatives to kindly place themselves on record.