CHAIRPERSON
He was approached yesterday by the lawyer of Mr Maduna as a witness.  He says he has come from work, here and I can't imagine any formal decisions being taken at an organisational level for him to come and give evidence.
	Now, if you are saying that he has no authority to talk on behalf of the PAC, then you must put it on that basis, no formal authority.  If that is what you are trying to say.