CHAIRPERSON
...[inaudible] reluctant to do this you know, Mr Bizos.  We've had endless difficulties with Mr Visser on previous occasions, it seemed he blew hot and cold and said he was coming in, he was not coming, he would come if his attorney were present and if his attorney were not present he wouldn't give evidence.  We've been hearing this on a number of occasions in the past and he's not here now and if it is just because he's not here, we have to adjourn to enable him to be here tomorrow, I would be most reluctant to do so.