CHAIRPERSON
So you did not know in 1993?  Yes, then it was not in 1993, would I be correct?  I want you to assist us, we don't know what you knew and what you didn't know.  We are sorry about that Mr Mbandazayo, we high-jacked, if we may put it that way, your re-examination.  We apologise.  We might have derailed you in the process but do accept our apologies.  You may continue.