FERDINAND BARNARD
That I had to be applied abroad or I was going to be applied abroad and that I will get my salary on a three-monthly basis.  While we were sitting there, Joe Verster arrived and I was then addressed concerning David Webster and Mr Jay Naidoo and that Webster was a priority target.
	It was Johannesburg, it was my region, because I knew the area very well, they were complimenting me at that stage.  Mr Luitingh didn't do a lot of the talking, Joe Verster was talking the most, and I then undertook to gather as much information as possible about them,  but on more than one opportunity Mr Verster emphasised that Mr Webster is the priority target.