MR GREYLING
Chairperson, at no stage was I involved or present during the obtaining of the map of the stockpile.  Mr Lalla told us from the beginning that he didn't know abut the map but the fact that we gave the map to him, he said that he would use the contents of the map and assist us in pointing out the stockpile, that he had no personal involvement with the map or with the stockpile.