MR STRYDOM
Yes Chairperson, I should have told Chairperson earlier on but people from the prison are not here.  The first applicant is Tebogo Magubane, he is the applicant who serves sentence apparently now in Klerksdorp Prison and I've informed the people to try to get him here.  The same would apply to Sonny Michael Mkwanazi, there's again uncertainty about his whereabouts, apparently he is in Sasolburg Prison, I'm investigating that.  Yes I would ask that we continue in their absence, they have already testified, I will look after their interests, I've got instructions on a previous occasion.