TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Six in the evening, until midnight - 1 o'clock if we were busy, whenever.  But what I'd like to say first is the overall picture.  I worked at Magoo's, Parade Hotel, for nine years.  In the first five years, which led to that point of June - you've got to know when you work, even if it's in a pub, you get to know your clients.  They become - it becomes like a second family.  They come to drink there, and to relax.  You're their psychologist, psychiatrist, you're their moneylender.  They have tabs and they pay you at the end of the month, and tip you terrifically.  But you get to know them each and every one.  And with me being there five years I knew all these people in Magoo's and the Why Not Bar.  It's a regular bar, and they went there to relax and enjoy themselves.  This is the point that we're trying to make, and this is the reason why I am here.  I knew each and every one of them intimately, with their problems, their personal problems.