BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
Mr Chairperson of the evidence has always been that the applicant heard a scream.  He then went to the shop and it was dark, he struck a match and he then said you are stabbing a child.  However there was not suggestion that Mr Patrick Malusane thought that he was stabbing an animal and the lighting was for the purpose of identifying the person who was being stabbed. That has always been my understanding of his evidence.