PIETER JOHANN VERSTER
Mr Chairperson, I think at the time of presenting this document, I also had other appendages of more than 30 folios about how the structure worked.  At that stage, after the Harms Commission, all our plans, our working procedures, our channels, that shows exactly who authorises what and how we worked and what the definitions were and what the rules and regulations were and what the financial procedures were and this was done repeatedly, so at the time of doing this part, it was only a confirming note of documentation that had already been handed in.