ADV THABETHA
Unfortunately Mr Chair, I wasn't aware that Mr De la Rey needed to be notified, but Penny told me and I have called Mr De la Rey. I was speaking to him when you came in, hence I went behind the curtain.  He says that he can come.  He has asked us to fax him the statement so that he can refresh his memory.  So I would suggest that when he comes maybe I consult with him and find out if there were any other officers involved and whether he would be willing to testify on his statement.