MR MBANDAZAYO
Yes, Mr Chairperson, that is why I'm addressing the Committee.  I had hoped that Mr Letklapa would sign here in Johannesburg, according to our arrangements.  He made the affidavit whilst we were in Durban the other week.  I met with him in Durban so I typed it and so we arranged that he will sign it here, though he was not going to give oral testimony to that.  Unfortunately, Mr Chairperson, he is in Umtata so I'm in the hands of the Committee, whether it can ...(intervention)