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I do submit that that is correct.  Mr Chairperson, Members of the Committee, like you said there were discrepancies, we may not have called people to testify on the affidavits that have been submitted, but cognisance has to be taken of the discrepancies of the fact that there were so little, it took so little, it took a mere fraction of a few minutes to convince the applicant, by his own evidence, that the victims in this matter were actually in opposition to him.