MR WAGNER
Mr Chairman may I raise an issue.  I was requested by a gentleman here in the audience, although I don't formally represent him, to raise a quick aspect with you.  If you look at Volume 2 Mr Chairman, page 43, there's a list of vehicles damaged.  Actually the list starts at page 41.  Now this gentleman he's number 27 on page 43, Mr Erasmus and he is here and if I may refer you to page 57 as well Mr Chairman, the top photograph apparently that is his vehicle directly in front of the vehicle with the bomb, that is immediately to the right-hand side of the gentleman standing there.  His vehicle was extensively damaged and he's here to, he doesn't really know what he should do.   I said to him I'll raise this point on his behalf if he want to give evidence to you to tell the damages he suffered he's here.  I only said to him I'll raise the issue.