WOUTER J BASSON
Chairperson, as I've stated, yes, I accept that he would clear it with the Chairperson, I cannot confirm that he did so, but I cannot recall specifically that he returned and said "listen, the Chairperson has approved it, continue", or if he said "listen, that presentation that you made two days ago, you may continue with it."  So it is very difficult for me to give you a specific answer to this question.  If you understand what I mean.