DANIEL PETRUS SIEBERT
I met Dr Tucker there in the cell with Mr Biko.  He was attending to Mr or inspecting Mr Biko.  I noted that there was foam at the corners of Mr Biko's mouth, spit.  Saliva, if I can, and he was being inspected or attended t by Dr Tucker.  I asked Dr Tucker what was wrong with the deceased and he told me that he did not know, that he could not determine what was wrong with him.  From the conversation that ensued between myself and Dr Tucker, I was satisfied that he was aware that the deceased were to be transported to Pretoria.  The conversation had to do, in addition, with a request from his part and on my part, that the medical doctor who were going to attend to him the next day, would have to have the opportunity to phone Dr Tucker so that the medical report, as he, Dr Tucker, and the other medical doctors had seen in Port Elizabeth, could be communicated to the medical doctors in Pretoria.