KOBUS DU PLESSIS
Yes Mr Chairman, they are, if we look at a brochure, I am not very much familiar with the 40mm and hand-grenades.  It is more for your explosive experts but as a ballistician I have fired this grenade launcher.  Now what we are talking here about is, it is not a grenade that you throw by hand, so it is launched.
 Now grenades can be launched from a rifle, using a rifle or in this case, a grenade launcher which also, if you look at it, it's got the shape of a rifle but there is other kind of rifle shotgun ammunition that's got the similar shape but the grenade is identified by the fact that it's a 40mm.  That is actually what is identifying it with regard to military terms.