CHAIRPERSON
It doesn't - look what's being put to you is that this man that you arrested on the 12th of November was rendered unconscious after his arrest.  It doesn't matter whether it was at the place where he was arrested or in the motor car going to the office or in the office there.  He was rendered unconscious and he remained unconscious right through from the date of his arrest, that is the 12th of November through to the 14th of November.  Now what do you say to that?  That's what is being put to you that the witness will say, the victim will say, Mr Mahumela.