JACOBUS PETRUS PAULUS ERASMUS
Mr Chairman as far as I can remember, it's not only what I remember, it's a fact.  I do not have any knowledge of any accommodation or room Mr Ngo had in the township.  I met him and according to me he lived initially in Daggafontein and later with Mr Venter.  I don't know about the house or the room he had in a black township, he never mentioned that to me.