MS THABETHE
Oh, that is not how I understood it.  I thought he was saying he spoke about his personal circumstances in the indemnity form, as opposed to the political circumstances because he did not want to reveal the incidents, thus exposing the name of the ANC, that is how I heard him, but of course I was listening in Zulu.
	I don't know whether my learned colleague heard the same thing, maybe being translated?