MR J DE CASTRO
Well if it's political why, why would they come in - they were looking for money, their first words that they walked in they said money, did they say politic, did they say listen I belong to APLA I'm coming here to kill you guys, did they say that, they didn't.  They said "money, lie down, open up the tills".  We laid down, what happened to us we were shot, we were shot, we were shot like you know like we were minced up, really.