BRIAN QUNA MKHIZE
Let me explain this a bit.  Our problem was that the ANC was still strong, if they could afford to attack a ZP van, like Constable Ngubane was shot whilst he was inside a van.
	(Indistinct) was also attacked in full uniform at J1.  He is today crippled.  Dunca was also attacked in J1, he is now deceased.  We were then forced to do something about this, not necessarily because of retaliation purposes, but because there was political fighting.
	It had become clear that if Police could be attacked or defeated by the ANC, it meant that at the end the Police station would be mainly manned by ANC Policemen.  Therefore it became clear that we were going to lose our support, even from the Police.  
	As I have mentioned that the most important thing that we were fighting over was support.  This necessitated that we should take steps to make sure that these attacks on Police people are stopped. 
	We discovered that people at J1 were reluctant to give information on who was killing these Police, nobody was willing to talk to the Police.  No one would come forward and give information on the death or the attack on Policemen.  It became clear to us that these people were all ANC supporters, so we decided to take action to stop these attacks on Police.
	We then agreed in the meeting that if the ANC attacks a Policeman, we would then go directly to that area where the Policeman was attacked, and kill or shoot everybody in the area, to send a message to the ANC that they are being hit because they had attacked a Policeman.
	We were wanting to stop this practise.  We wanted the ANC to know that if they attack a Policeman, people will die.
	That is why when Constable Dunca was killed, I decided to collect my group and go to the area where he was killed, and attack those people.