MR PRINSLOO
With respect no, Your Honour, because then Mr Swart's evidence has to be thrown out totally, because he stated clearly that the third applicant had walked up to him, the second applicant had walked up to him.
	And you must keep in mind what had happened, these two people were sitting, watching TV.  What better element of surprise was there than this, than walking in and say hand over your firearm.  You would expect that they would give up immediately, because they would be frightened to death, like Swart had testified.
	He would do nothing, they would hand over their firearms.  But with respect, these persons pleaded guilty, they said that they had foreseen the possibility in trying to obtain firearms, that resistance would occur.  To rob a person of a firearm, there is always that possibility with respect.
	And also with respect, it cannot be to the detriment of what the applicants are applying for.