MR BANADE
Mr Chairman, with all due respect, no.  I can't think of any evidence against that which was heard here.  To tell the truth, Erasmus says that he found the pocketbook - I beg your pardon - Harrington says that he found the pocketbook, Erasmus says that he was sitting in the front of the vehicle, he heard about the pocketbook.  He did not physically see the pocketbook.  Mr Madlala also confirms that there was a pocketbook found.