VAKELE ARCHIBALD MKOSANA
Yes, when we were doing the debriefing, Col van der Bank, I told him, he asked who gave the order to fire those people at Parliament and at Fort Hare Branch.  I said:  "No one" and then I also told that Gonya, because we thought that was the grenades that were exploded from the masses, I said - he asked me that, I said:  "No, it is this Rifleman Gonya who has fired these launchers without my orders."