MR MBANDAZAYO
Chairperson, definitely if you have been given an order, I don't think Chairperson they expected that, as the evidence according to them was given that they would harm Donne Meyers, but because as the first applicant put it, Kulman, that it's because he missed when he was shooting.  The first applicant, Kulman put it that it's because he missed when he was shooting the father and they ended up fatally wounding her on that score.