MR PHOSA
Therefore, if you as the Eastern Cape branch of the security police decided to act in terms of what was said at these meetings, you would normally expect that what you convey to the politicians would also be kept a secret, isn't it?  If you decided you were going to kill Mthimkhulu and you decide to tell the President, you'd expect him to keep it a secret in the nature of the general conduct of his meetings, isn't it?  Do you understand the question though?