ANDRIES MOZIKEFANI GAMEDE
They were trained, as far as we got information from some of them, was that they were going to escort companies that were delivering in the townships in Gauteng.  What we couldn't understand why people from Piet Retief could go and stay in hostel and be trained in the hostel to protect transports in Gauteng.  But I'm just narrating the situation of how I understand the situation in Piet Retief at that time.  Then we then, I think it was 1991, if I'm not mistaken, we then heard that Mr Msibi was shot.  Obviously we didn't know exactly what happened.  I think the whole community was shocked to hear that Mr Msibi was shot, but after he was shot I think in early 1990, just after he was shot, Mr Eric Nkosi was arrested for allegedly shooting Mr Msibi for business matters.