MR BERGER
I submit that it didn't matter to them one bit whether they hit military targets, political targets, women, children, friends of the ANC, it didn't matter at all.  Mr Olifant was observing the house where Muff Anderson stayed.  Muff Anderson had moved out of that house ten months before.  It was never used as a safe house.  He brought the information back to his handlers, to Coetzee.  What could he have told them?  What information could he have given them?  And I submit it's easy to say he's a useless witness, we must disregard whatever he said, but he brought that information, it wasn't in his interests to manufacture information, or to pass through incorrect information.