TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  I would say, firstly, when I returned back in South Africa I contacted my people in Port Elizabeth because myself I'd been in Johannesburg.  Then I discovered that my mother was necklaced to death and my home was destroyed.  Because also my statements that I have made publicly, I could not go back to PE 1991, until 1992.  I went to Ciskei and Oupa Gqoza provided me with his military guys and then I went to my home.  Then I could only see my father for 10 minutes only, because I didn't want the people to see me around the area, because people were looking for me.  And presently - and then from then I came back to KwaZulu/Natal.  Presently, I'm the person who is living in Johannesburg, because I've been living in KwaZulu/Natal, but after I had made a statement that I will appear in the Truth Commission I had some death threats from some other people that I had been working with, thinking that I will be here to reveal, you know, other things that Mr Lax already said I actually should not talk about them presently, you know.  So actually, presently I am the person who is not living in one place and then, as now, today, I have to go back to Johannesburg again underground.  So that is the life that I'm living.