HENDRIK JOHANNES PETRUS BOTHA
Chairperson, I could not see whether it had any physical effect on him.  All that I could observe was that Mr Gordhan was a very aggressive person and his attitude was negative regarding the questions which were put to him.  If I had to evaluate I would say that the suffocation had absolutely no affect on him.
	The secrets with regard to the supply of investigations, names of informers and many other matters were in danger of being exposed and were indeed exposed to a great extent by the aforementioned mole.  At that stage the armed struggle still waged forth and Operation Vula was in full swing.  It was in order to combat the threat which was represented by Operation Vula that I acted accordingly.