MR COETSER
The point of the ...(indistinct) question is the frustration that the Commission expressed when he said:  "Look sorry, I can't remember the names of the General" for example.  "I can't remember this".  It is hugely frustrating, I know, it's massively frustrating for everybody, but can the Commission be convinced on the totality of his testimony that he is for example hiding the name of that General from the Commission?  Is he doing that?  I would submit there is no justification to say he is not, when he can't remember other aspects.  Is there a single aspect that he was questioned on and when he said:  "Look I'm sorry, but now I'm afraid I cannot remember, I cannot supply you that information", are there any aspects, I pose a rhetorical question again, where the Commission can be satisfied that no, he's lied to us about no remembering, he's actually deliberately withholding this evidence from us.  I would submit there's not one single example upon which the Commission can be satisfied that that is the case.  So in that respect I would say that there has been full disclosure from this man in relation to what he can remember.