MOKOTEDI MPSHE
Thank you Mr Chairperson, I'm not leading any evidence of any person effected in the form of a victim but in all fairness to the applicant Mr Chairperson, I want the Committee's guidance here.  I made certain accessions to the applicant under cross-examination concerning the guns, where the guns were found, who made available the guns and I said to him it was - he said it was David Nene and I said if somebody say it was somebody else what would you say, he said it would be not true.  I made another accession in all fairness to him about the money or members knowing that the money was going to be given to a particular person and he also, not in so many words, disputed that.  I do have witnesses to this effect if the Committee would like to hear them I can call them if the Committee accepts the accessions that I've made I can leave it at that and not call any witness, but they are available because I would be calling them for only for this purpose which may not be in the liking of the Committee.