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He was 14 years old when this happened. It was 12 o'clockin the afternoon. He was just playing outside. He said he was scared to roamaround the location because the soldiers were... (incomplete - end of Side B,Tape 4) ... the other street. I got a car on that street. I asked that person,the driver, to give me a lift and take me to the hospital. We got to a mainroad, where we met people from the Civic Association. They were coming fromthe court and they were in a kombi. They said to me, "There is my son," andthey told me that my son had been taken to Mapetla. That's another location.They gave me a lift. I thought I was going mad a that time. I didn't know whatwas happened. When we got to Mapetla we found that there were police cars aswell as police Casspirs. They took me there. When we got there they said - theComrades requested the soldiers to disclose the whereabouts of my son. Theysaid they didn't know the whereabouts of my son. Thereafter they said the carhad turned at Izulu Street. By that time we tried to follow it. Then they said,"No, there it is. It's speeding up, it's going towards town." Then they putme again in the kombi, they said, "We must follow these people." We followedthem. All of a sudden they disappeared. Then we rushed off to the hospital.When we got to the hospital, as we were crossing the railway station just approaching the hospital,we saw an ambulance flicking its little red light. When we got to the hospitalI asked the ambulance drivers as to where my son was. I don't know who startedby telling me that my son was in Kroonstad, but there was a group of people.I asked them, "How could my son be in Kroonstad within five minutes?" They toldme to go back home, and I was a little bit mixed up because I didn't know whatwas happening. They took me, they put me into the kombi, they directed me togo home. When I got home I sat there, and my mother asked me where my son was.I told her that they had told me he's in Kroonstad. I sat outside wondering.Now I was totally - I didn't know what to do because I didn't know what washappening. Then my mother said to me I must just wait and see. Nobody showedup except for a young girl whose name was Busisiwe.