SISI KHAMPEPE
Now let's come back to the incident which you have headed murder of UDF member, female spy and attempted murder and rape of another.  With that understanding in mind at paragraph 34 of your affidavit which is at page 145 you have stated that the reason why you went to see Zekele Nkethle on the day in question was to ask him what to do with the girls, I quote you: "since we had never killed women before".  Would you mind explaining to me why it was necessary for you to seek instructions when quite early in your career you were aware that you were encouraged to kill women.  Why was this an exceptional case?