MR DORFLING
Mr Chairman, my position is identical to that of Mr Pretorius, there's a number of points I've already noted, but I would rather at an appropriate time address you more fully on all the points I would like to raise.
	Mr Chairman, at this point in time I would like to place certain facts on record.  The matters had been curtailed somewhat by the withdrawal of the applications by two of the applicants at the time when they were to be called.  Earlier in the week I had certain discussions with Ms Patel with regard to who should be called and which witnesses should be subpoenaed.  At that point in time we did not foresee that we would need more than one or at most two witnesses to possibly give evidence in these proceedings.  
	We then started to try and secure the presence of at least two such witnesses, we tried to secure the presence of Mr Diaz, that of Mr Stevens, that of Mr Potgieter, which I've already yesterday indicated we couldn't secure.  We thereafter also tried to secure the presence of Sergeant van Reenen.  Sergeant van Reenen is however of the opinion after he obtained some legal advice that he would like a formal subpoena, that he would like sufficient time to prepare, and that he's not prepared to give his evidence at this point in time.  Earlier this week when we didn't sit because of one of the learned Commissioners not being available, we had a meeting amongst the legal teams of the objectors and we at that point in time decided that the witnesses that could now called, should first of all be the independent witnesses who has got no specific interest to either one of the parties involved and that's why we endeavoured to try and get hold of these witnesses.  
	At this point in time as far as the objectors are concerned, the individual objectors who we envisage we might call are but a few in number.  The position with their evidence is that they are not going to be of much assistance to this Committee with regard to putting a proper picture before the Committee as to what happened.  They're unsophisticated and uneducated people and we decided amongst the legal teams appearing on behalf of the objectors that we want to first call the independent witnesses to place that picture before the Committee to give the globular picture before individuals are being called as objectors who can't give a full perspective of what happened.