MR KAKANA
Thank you, Mr Chairperson, that is what I want to know, because if we can come together, we can find out what happened, what started all this problem.  We have to sit down and each of us had to state, in front of the Commission what happened, because now, in the long run, the Kakanas' and the Menzis' are separate even if certain individuals are against the Kakana family, will say that they belong to the Menzi family.