BUTANA ALMOND NOFOMELA
De Kock told me that those people were going to shoot at those people and that is the truth that he told me and the people were shot at.  Nothing was mentioned about the self-defence, that is coming from you.  I was told by de Kock that the people were going to be shot at and I still maintain that.  That is why I made this application, it's because I knew very well that people were going to be shot at.  I wouldn't waste my time and come here and testify or make an application about this incident.