TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  He was not working any more, because he was working for railways, then he got arrested and he was convicted.  I think it was '67, February.  He was working at Point and got arrested, and he was there for 90 days, and he was sentenced, he was sent to Pretoria.   And when I went to Pretoria they told me he was a Leeukop, and they told me when I got there that he was in Cape Town.  And I got back, I came back.  It was a year and three months when I combine all this, and also the period he spent at Point.  He came back.  When he got back he could not work again because he was burned, and I was working, self-employed.