MR STEWART
For, let's assume that there's a scenario like that, and as I say we're looking for it precisely, but where there is a scenario of house burnings or area clearances which incorporate some level of looting, the difficulty that I would face in seeking amnesty in respect of that incident would be if there was evidence to show that the attack was motivated, at least in part, or at least not in significant part, by the anticipation of personal gain.  Or if I was seeking amnesty for the act of, or offences of theft, in those circumstances, because clearly that would be, the theft or looting of televisions and so on, that specific offence, would be for personal gain.  But the broader offence of arson and maybe of murder and attempted murder and so on, which is associated with the act as a whole, would not be, in my submission, for personal gain.  It would lack that causal link, and therefore it wouldn't apply, and ...(intervention)