DR BORAINE
Mr Chairperson, before I call the next witness, could I welcome Mr Roger Hulley, the leader of the Democratic Party in KwaZulu/Natal, and I would be grateful if you would stand just for a minute.  Thank you very much for being here.  Roger Burroughs.  I should know, shouldn't I?  Thank you.  The next witness is Dual Amos Hlatswayo, and I invite him to come forward, please.  Could I just make sure that the witness can hear my voice.  Can you hear all right?