MR PHOSA
Mr Chairman, all I asked was the question being asked: "What do I mean", I'm putting questions that are technically fair but I don't think they are fair to ...[inaudible] can view them as being fair.  I meant it only in that sense.  In any event, let me go on with the question I was asking, it will clear up.
	As between you and these other persons, when you made the decision you were saying only what you felt was the logical conclusion of what they'd come for?