BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
Can we assist you on that point to indicate to you what Mr Patel's positions is and, in fact, that is the point on which he is going to submit written argument. His position is that, his, the application is being opposed on the basis that there was no, there has not been any full disclosure.  Otherwise they would not be opposing the application, but they feel that there has not been a full disclosure on that point and he is going to make submissions on that point and say there has not been a full disclosure in particular with regard to the fact that Mr Joe Nkuna was present during the attack.  So let us not fool ourselves in trying to think that, well, Mr Patel is not opposing the application and then try to argue that therefore the applicant is in entitled to amnesty because Mr Patel is not opposing the application.  It is, if ever he said that he did not oppose the application.  He did so with a very strong qualification and yesterday when he left here he told us that he is going to submit written argument and it is obvious his written argument is, which he is going to submit, it is not in support of your client's application.  The written argument he is going to submit will be in opposition your client's application on the basis that there has not been a full disclosure in the sense that I have described to you.