CORNELIUS ADOLF JANSE ODENDAL
I do not agree with that.  Mr Schelhase also said he did not know Mr Barnard very well.  I want to tell you Mr Barnard was a brilliant policeman.  Weekends, Saturdays and Sunday evenings when there was no unrest he worked in Guguletu, in Crossroads during the night.  And do you know how many stolen vehicles he retrieved?  And then here in Guguletu he is regarded now as a very bad person. He was a brilliant policeman.