CHAIRPERSON
You see when we questioned Mr Khumalo about whether this was done in the situation of Ms Hapile and Ms Ndumo he said he did not, he did not know whether you as a commander had done so, because it was a function of a unit commander to do the verification.  That is why I'm asking you as a unit commander, because the evidence suggested that it was not his function but that of a unit commander to refer such matters to underground structures.