PROF MEIRING
Rebecca, thank you for your story. Your family has gone through a very traumatic time over many years.  Can we just go back and may I ask you a number of questions surrounding your story and some of my colleagues around the table will no doubt also want to ask a few questions.
 I want to know about Japie.  You said that you were very hurt when he left the family.  You did not know at that stage that he was involved in politics. Was that a surprise to the family?