CHAIRPERSON
No look, they are important people to you, they told you about the organisation.  They should have said:  "Look, I hold this position, therefore I speak in authority when I do so to you."  They were just members of the Task Force and you were satisfied about that?  Okay, let's start from Sibande.  He introduces you to Rasta and Mehi, what did he say these people were within the PAC, or within the organisation?