MR VISSER
Can you please pause there for one moment?  Documentation became available which included copies of certain letters which the same Mr Ninela had written to the Minister of Law and Order during his detention in 1987.  You'll find that in bundle 2.   There are quite a number of them Mr Chairman, but perhaps I should just refer you to page 77.  What Mr Ninela says, Mr Ninela says on the 23rd January 1987 he was detained and then he was taken to CR Swart Square where he was severely assaulted and tortured by a group of white members of the Security Branch.