MR VISSER
Well, I just want to put to you that at page 26 of bundle 2 of the record, Mrs Malaza, whom you say was the mother of Lindi, gave evidence to say that she heard about the attack and she says at the bottom
"As to why they were killed, we don't know.  They were killed because they were members of the ANC."
Would you say that would apply to Joseph as well?