JOE MAMASELA
Yes.  I believe, I don't just believe in national reconciliation, it's a good thing.  I don't just believe in that only.  National reconciliation without atonement is meaningless.
	I believe that as a perpetrator who was made a perpetrator against my will, against my political convictions, I must go an extra mile to atone both in kind like I'm doing now, testifying on behalf of, with the victims and also to testify in cash that I will like to, whatever little money that I have, to share it with the victims and I definitely appreciate it if they can accept the peanuts that I will offer them.