PETROS VUSUMUZI MTHEMBU
This is the situation.  I was an operator.  I did not use many weapons.  Weapons that I could not handle with my hands.  As an operator, we took turns now there are duty engaged, working with guns.  Those who were not operators might have in their possession, knobkerries and those knives but as an operator I did not have anything.
	At that time maybe the order was going to be given to me, maybe to shoot and it was during that time where I would get a gun and then shoot.  There is no conflict there.