FREDERICK JACOBUS BADENHORST
Chairperson, just before I made the statement, they took me to a little office where Chief Commandant Kloppers and Martin van der Schyff were already sitting together with the detectives, and at that stage I still said I know of nothing, and only after Kloppers and Van der Schyff were asked, "Was this man, Jaco Badenhorst involved, was he present?", and then I realised, and they said yes, and then I knew that they already spoke to the police, and that's why I made this statement.