MR VAN WYK
When you say I did not do that, I did however, shoot one of the people there and as well I did shoot Mrs Roux although I did not know that I was shooting at her as such.  Only after the event happened did I see that she was there, although I did shoot one of the people involved, I don't know to say if I felt it was necessary.  I think if you go on the basic planning and the plan was if anything went wrong we would discontinue our action and retreat basically, but as White was the leader, he was in the position of leadership, I had to obey his commands and at that stage the way I felt I was an ultimate ultra-rightwing racist, so it did not touch me that deeply when I shot that Black man at that stage.  So I could reconcile myself with that.  It was only, as a I say when Mrs Roux was shot that it touched me.  And as I say I did not know beforehand that I was shooting at her.