TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  It was Khumalo that I knew amongst the police.  Then I went to Fred Mthembu.  I was with Sithle in my car and I hooted before I got to Mthembu, of course using the sign that Mthembu could understand that it was me hooting.  He immediately opened the door and then they couldn't do anything because he had already seen them.  So they told me that they are looking for my car because my car is carrying firearms.  They searched the car, but couldn't find any.  Then they left me there.  I was then afraid to go back to my house, H125, at that time and I requested to sleep in Fred's house, because I knew there was only one way to come out of that area.  After about 15 minutes Khumalo came back and said he wanted to talk to me.  I went out and he asked me if I had seen some copperhead around.