MR VISSER
May I - sorry, Mr Chairman, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but may I add something.  We have a document, Mr Chairman, it is at the office of the Attorney-General and it refers to certain attachments.  It is a blue page which says (opsomming van wesenlike feite) - summary of the facts. In that document paragraph 8 says
"The accused returned to the house of the deceased, where they removed the items mentioned in Annexure A."
And Annexure A attached, and which is exactly what you have pointed out, Mr Chairman, it contains a list of the stuff that was stolen.  And that's how they showed the list at the trial, as it is normally done.