MR MALAN
Now that leads directly to my last question.  Is this not typical of an activity that took place at a lower level, we at that level took the law into our own hands, we protected South Africa, we know what had to be done, we did it in the cause of the National Party as is said and the government and the South African Police and if only if we're caught out we will seek protection somewhere?  Is that not the true construction to be put on this type of activity?