J P VAN DEN BERG
Matthews and I worked together for years afterwards and the first time that I heard that was when Matthews phoned me one night and told me that Mr De Lange had come to pick him up.  He was phoning from Thabazimbi and that we were in trouble. I then phoned Mr Erwee and told him what had happened and Mr Erwee then communicated that to me, that there have been these allegations that Tokkie Fuchs shot somebody who was lying on the ground.