PAUL PHILLIPUS FRANCOIS FUCHS
I knew about them and I also saw when the shot rang out, how Captain Born collapsed.  At that stage I didn't know whether he had been hit or whether he was just seeking cover.
	But I heard the shot and shortly afterwards I also heard a volley of very fast shots from outside.  And afterwards I realised, I must say it was the first time I found myself in such a situation, I jumped hither and thither and then, when I heard shots firing from inside the casspir, I jumped out and also tried to fire from the roof.