PIETER JAKOBUS GOUWS
Chairman, that is precisely the idea that I personally got and I think the idea I conveyed to my Executive and I think this is the idea most of the farming, the enlightened part of the farming community had, it is that the boat shouldn't be rocked, the facts should be kept as simple as possible, it is just a criminal attack and it shouldn't be this or that, because what could have happened and perhaps one could understand the reasoning, it might have been that certain farmers' group took the law in their own hands at that specific stage and it might have led to a blood bath in certain cases.  But I had discussions, numerous ones, we had open discussions with Ministers during the Ficksburg meeting specifically, can give you dates of that, we had Minister Kriel, Minister Kobie Coetzee and other Ministers there and when they came with this story, that it was not a political motive and most of these murderers, criminals, the farming community rose as one and shouted them down and actually put a motion of no confidence in them and asked them to leave the meeting, so extreme it was.