BOY VUSIMUZI GWAMANDA
I do admit that I was part of a group of prisoners who were released to go and shoot outside or practice and I was also trained to fight against the ANC, but the matter regarding Matthew Phosa was the one incident that I have explained before.
	There has never been any other attempt that I've been involved in.  I only started seeing Matthew Phosa's face on the TV.  I have never had a discussion with him.  I do wish to meet his but I have never had discussions with him.  
	I do admit that I was trained in prison and I do admit that I was one of those prisoners who were part of the group that attempted to assassinate Matthew Phosa but the mission was aborted.  I don't think I would deny if I had indeed been involved in other attempts or hide my involvement.  I do not have any reason to do so.  I could have applied for amnesty in that regard.  There is nothing else whatsoever except for what I've explained here with regards to Matthew Phosa. ...[end of tape] - [side A of tape 5 is blank]