SPANKIE LESOTHO
As I have explained, the Mazimzim issue, Mazimzim was not an organisation in 1990 and the Gadaffi as well, they were not an organisation in 1990.  In 1985 and 1986 I was the Chairperson of AZASIM.  They called AZASIM, Mazimzim in short.  They assumed that before all this we were all members of AZASIM, but there was no AZASIM then.  We called the Gadaffis because their leader was Gadaffi and therefore we all called them Magadaffi.  At that time there was no, we were all members of the ANC Youth League at that time.