DR RANDERA
Did you see photographs of Coetzee also at the time because as I understand it, Nofumela, and if I can just inform everybody, you're referring to Almond Nofumela who was part of the Vlakplaas unit and so was Dirk Coetzee.  Dirk Coetzee did not apply for amnesty for your torture.  Are you sure it was Dirk Coetzee.  Can I just add another point here please and you may be completely and absolutely right, as we understand it again Dirk Coetzee left the Vlakplaas unit in around 1982.  That was the time that he was beginning to break from that unit.  As you know he subsequently gave a lot of evidence to the Harms Commission.  I'm just wanting to ask you whether you are sure that it was Dirk Coetzee who was involved in your torture ?