CHAIRPERSON
Smuts, thank you very much.  You have given us a very broad perspective covering a very long period of struggle in this area.  You have analyzed for us the political context in which these things happened and indeed cited to us a number of very (indistinct) cases, which this Commission would not have touched, (indistinct) of this area if it doesn't deal with it.
 We are grateful that you have taken the time and that you have prepared such a useful document for our consideration.  We would of course still expect that you would give us the copies and although you have read into the record the main part of it.  Thank you very much and we are indeed most grateful to you.  Thank you.
 We will have a 15 minute break, we will come back at quarter past eleven.