CHAIRPERSON
I think let's do the formalities and place ourselves on record.  I am Motata from the Transvaal Provincial Division.  I will be chairing these hearings.  On my right I have my brother Judge de Jager, also from the Transvaal Provincial Division.  On my left I have our colleague, Adv Sandi, from East London, Eastern Cape Province.  Will the legal representatives do the same?  I will start with the legal representative of the applicant.