MR PRIOR
Mr Chairman, with respect, we don't know at this stage what the relevance of this questioning is.  I can confirm independently Mazibuko was murdered.  There is a docket still open. I don't know about the witness Priscilla Sibaya, but Lt Colonel Segal died, it was publicised, he died in a motor accident earlier this year, so I think my learned friend is unfair when she suggests to this witness that he is making these things up as he goes along.  I think it creates the wrong impression at this hearing that this witness is fabricating and I would ask for a ruling with respect.