CHAIRPERSON
Good morning ladies and gentlemen.  Yesterday I had requested the Counsel for the Applicants and the - Mr Mapoma who is leading the evidence on behalf of the Commission to discuss the issues and see whether they can, as far as is practicable, limit those issues.  I gather that that was not done.  It was agreed that it was going to be done this morning.  At 9 o'clock Mr Madasa who appears for the Applicants was not yet present.
	The explanation that he has offered is that he was held up in the traffic.  It seems to me that it is important that Mr Mapoma and Mr Madasa get together at some point to see whether they can agree on certain issues so as to limit the ambit of the evidence that is going to be lead.  I hope they will be able to do so in due course, in view of the fact that they did not hold the required conference.
	We had intimated to them that we will allow them 30 minutes time to see whether they can deal - they can get together at this stage and deal with that - well rather whether they can hold the conference to deal with the issues that need to be canvassed.  But it has occurred to us that whatever they agree upon, Mr Sonti who is presently giving evidence will have to continue giving his evidence and we've come to the conclusion that perhaps it is desirable that we finish the evidence of Mr Sonti and thereafter we can take a break at which point they can discuss - they can hold their conference and come to some agreement as to what the issues are.
MR ?: Mr Sonti, you are still under oath, I'm just reminding you.