ZWELITSHA MKHULUTHA
Firstly, there were two steps taken because in the meeting that Thyido had already mentioned, there was a previous meeting held where I proposed that us as leaders must be given the opportunity to find out about these allegations, we were holding this meeting in Mr (indistinct) house from six o'clock up until eight o'clock, and during our discussions about the money matters, we came to a decision that this money issue must be frozen and he must just step down as a leader of SANCO and we had to give a report to the ANC Youth League and the Women's League and SANCO about our previous discussions.
	And in that meeting he pretended to be pleading but his wife did  say that all this is due to my husband, he is responsible for this.  And that is when I realised that Bongi and Fundile Madodo held discussions, but we told them that we had meetings and what was the decision taken and there was a confusion in the meeting and thereafter there were no meetings held and they distanced themselves and after my mother's attack, they disappeared.
	What happened thereafter or before, before leaving I think they did go to the ANC Regional Office whereby members thereof came to us, they came to my house and told me that they hear news that we are shooting each other and they were given an instruction to come and disarm us, but that was untrue, we never shot each other.
	But we told them that all we are having is discussions, but you can go ahead and disarm us, we handed over our firearms and we went to the R Section, there was a Mr Dulah Omar and Willie Hofmeyr present there and there was  a meeting to be held the following day.
	I did explain to Tony that comrades you seem to come here uninformed that we are criminals, but it is not true.  It is just to fulfil the aims of the Stability Unit and some members.