AZHAR CACHALIA
The material probability that I am relying on is not dependent on the singing of slogans and chanting the ...(indistinct) that's the first point.  The second point that I am making is it is not encumbent on the victims and the opposition to the applicants who represent them to put to them, it is for them to say that we had made the decision.  It's not for me to say we are going to say, and then they think that that's a good idea and say yes.  It's not for me to make a case for them.