CHAIRPERSON
Yes, well just so that there is clarity on the rules to the extent that there is now representation of a group of applicants by more than one counsel.  The rule that we applied to the legal representatives of the victims will also apply to the applicants and that is to say we will not allow a counsel to go over a matter which has been canvassed by the other counsel.  We would please ask counsel to make sure that they don't cover the same ground that has already been covered by the other counsel.  I'm directing this specifically to you Mr Lowies because you have not been here before so that you understand that that's the way you're proceeding here, do you understand?