PHILEMON KABILA MAXAM
Sir, that is your opinion, but truly the situation at the time seemed to be necessary.  If you were there you would see what was happening and, Sir, you must remember that I was never arrested before, I was never before the Magistrate and at the time I had to do such incidents, because of the situation in Mbekweni.  There was war in Mbekweni.  A lot of things happened that led to such events.  It was not our aim to shoot people, but we were forced by circumstances.