MR J DE CASTRO
Sure.  Well I had some of my family members over at my house.  I had moved from the one house to another house the previous day and the whole family was there by me to help me to move and that's actually the reason why you know, they were at the shop at that present time.  So actually in the afternoon I went home and we were watching the rugby on TV and then I came back to the shop and I told them: "Listen I'm closing round about half past eight, nine o'clock, you guys must make a plan and then we'll all walk out together".  So that's what we did they, my in-laws, the victims ... (intervention)