CHAIRPERSON
We have also heard that from Mr Le Grange on a previous occasion, but the fact remains are we in a position to say that there was or wasn't such an order as he has alleged?
	However, to continue with all this uncertainty in the hope of establishing something, I don't know where this will take us.  All I know is that we have reached the third day of these proceedings and we are busy with the third witness and if we continue in this manner, we will not have concluded our business by next week, Friday.