TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  We're still - there again the uncertainty of things.  We're not certain, there are not definite answers to our questions, and we need to know a lot more.  We need for them to come up.  We need to see or to hear what they've got to say, exactly what happened there.  And there again, like you said, you know, we've got two versions of this now, one - the one version we would like to believe it is what it is, and it's the police version, and it's - it's there again this uncertainty what is the truth exactly what happened there.