JOHANNES AFRICA MASWENG HLAPO
Yes, Sir.  There is a saying and there was a saying even in my trial in court, that I personally took a knife from accused number 17 and stabbed Mr - between Mr Beeton and Mr Jansen.  I want to put it straight, I was there personally, I was involved in the accident, there was no knife involved there.  What I saw there it's stones and some knopkieries and some sharp instruments, but I personally I never took a knife from accused number 17 and stabbed one of the two victims which were attacked on that time.