MR DU PLESSIS
All right.  Now Mr Ngo, you see, I'm going to put to you what I will argue at the end about your involvement of the security branch and that is - and I want your comment on this please, that is that the only people of the security branch you knew according to their evidence, was Captain - Colonel Loots because you met him, you had an interview with him, Hendrik Bokaba because you lived with him in the barracks, Danny Selahla because you lived with him in the barracks.  Those were the only three people you knew who worked for the security branch because those were the only three people in security branch you ever met.