MR BERGER
Chairperson, if my learned friend is going to quote from a document, in fairness the document should be placed before Mr Ismail for his comment, if indeed it is permissible to do so.  I suggest that perhaps, if there is any cross-examination of this sort, and if it is relevant at all, it should be directed to Mr McBride to explain why he said certain things at certain times in his life, under certain circumstances.