TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  No.  I was present in some of these instances.  I was in command, so I am just as responsible as the person that pulled the trigger, Mr Chairman.   And if the truth comes out from other sources it will be proven exactly that that is the truth.  I did not assault or pull the trigger on anyone. And as I say, through that I don't want to distance myself, or pretend that I am not guilty.  I was there.  It's just the situation was as such that I was a superior, and there was enough juniors who volunteered.