CHARLES ALEXANDER MATHER
Alright.  When the Transkei was granted independence, I can't remember the year, 1970-something, it was the policy of the then Matanzima's that the white traders should move out of the area.  In fact there was an agreement with the government that you could put your business up for sale and they would come and evaluate it and it was purchased by the then Transkei Development Corporation and they would pay you a very fair price based on goodwill over the last three years, or five years, I can't remember.
	All the white owned businesses were allocated to different people in the Transkei.  We of course refused to sell.  A lot of traders sold, a lot didn't sell.  We weren't forced to, but the general attitude of the government of that time was that the white trader must go and it must be bought by local black business people, Transkei business people.
	I do know, I can remember somebody coming into my shop and saying: "Well, this business is going to be mine one day, it's been allocated to me" and can I show him around and: "Can I look at the house?", and all those types of things.   I remember saying to him: "I think you're mistaken, this business is not for sale and it will never be for sale."