MR VISSER
Chairperson, my learned friend is being unfair to the witness.  Does he have evidence in what direction this deceased was looking at the time he was shot?  He might have been looking backwards for all we know.  We're on such highly speculative ground, Chairperson.  If my learned friend wants a concession from us, that the probabilities are that these bullet wounds were no caused by this witness, I will gladly concede it and we can get on with the matter.  But surely, Chairperson, speculating with the witness, none of the two of them being an expert, none of the two of them having been on the scene to say what really happened.  It takes us nowhere, with respect, Chairperson.