FUNDISELE GULENI
There were a lot of provocation between our groups.  I remember when we had a memorial service for Mr Thambo where a PAC member was giving a message of support, which was the late Mr Makhabula.   He was also talking as he pleased, because he said, uttered statements like "that white man, Joe Slovo, would be killed if he were to come here in Port St Johns".  There were some attacks that were launched by the PAC members.  This started on Pumulela Hermans and this attack happened in January 1994.  He managed to get away from that and he left Port St Johns and sought homage in Umtata.  The second incident was the attack on his father, which is Mr Hermans, in his house.   Fortunately he managed to get away.  All these fights continued and the unrest caused by these soldiers.  At some stage there was an attack on a Coke truck and also a passer-by who was just driving passed on his tractor, was also shot.   A TDF soldier tried to fight back to defend this person.  Also another kombi was blocked on its way to Lusikisiki and it was shot.  It was all such incidents that happened, to the extent that Sadtu called a meeting that was intending to bring together all the Heads of Departments in Port St Johns, the Heads of Departments were from the police and from the Justice and from the investigating unit from the police and from the Station Commander.   The purpose of the meeting was mainly to question why were the people of APLA out of control and nobody was trying to control them.  But the answer that was given by the Station Commander was the fact that it is difficult for them to intervene or to address this matter, because when Gen Bantu Holomisa was in power, he said that after the certain family were beaten, these people can defend themselves whenever they pleased, but all these incidents, we would report at the police station and we would find the Assistant-Station Commander who would say to us "this MK or the ANC, isn't it giving you arms to defend yourselves"?