CHAIRPERSON
We've heard that Mr Arendse, I'm just saying to you that this witness was prepared to overlook and come to terms with the reality as I understand his evidence and the only reason why he's here is because he read it being said that his brother was killed because his brother fired at them and they shot back.  Now he says that he knows his brother did not shoot, he thinks that the truth is not being spoken - that the applicants have not told the truth, that is why he's here.