MR MBANDAZAYO
Mr Chairperson, as I indicated to this Committee, I don't have a problem with the Committee.  The problem you have I also have it, Mr Chairperson, because definitely when I received this document on Monday and luckily I've consulted with them on the previous week on a Saturday, when I was given instructions on a Friday that they are going to appear, and I immediately saw that there's this difference.  And they insisted that the firearms they robbed were these and that's what happened.  And now it's ...[indistinct] in that problem.
	Definitely Mr Chairperson, what I'm saying is that the Committee will have to do what it is enjoined by the law to do.  It's not their fault, it's not also our fault but if the applicants are insisting, insist as they insisted to me, I even put to them and I told them that I have a similar problem but fortunately for the guy in Johannesburg he was released despite that he was not granted amnesty in a robbery.  
	But what I'm saying is that the applicants are saying: "What we did is this, if we say another thing to this Committee" - it may well have the problem, as Mr Chairperson says the problem of identifying the gun but what they are saying is this gun and ...[intervention]