MR PRETORIUS
I will read from the third last line or fourth last line:  "What was you decision?", "No when my life it is in danger, it is only then (indistinct)", then "Alright, these first gunshots that you heard is that what you are saying, that you started shooting because your life was in danger?", "Sorry?".  "Are you saying that you started shooting because you concluded that your life was in danger?", "Yes".  "The first gunshots that you heard, which direction did they come from?", "Which direction were they coming from?", "Yes", "They were coming from the direction of De Villiers Street".  "How many gunshots did you hear?", "I am not sure, I do not recall, I do not remember how many gunshots I heard".  Now that was when you were standing immediately before you start firing, that appears from the previous page where we started reading.  Do you agree with that Mr Mangena?