MR BRACHER
Well I'll leave it at that, you don't know that.  I just want to ask you about the Volkstaat, have you got in front of you these volumes?  There's a bound volume called: "Index, Volume 1" and if you have, please turn to page 95.  We're looking at the evidence of Mr Vlok, Johannes Abraham Vlok.  Similar evidence was given by the other applicants.  Can you just read aloud paragraph 21 please?
MR SMIT
"The instruction was given that we must move to the Western Transvaal where the future Volkstaat would be established and that all members must leave their work and houses to go to the Western Transvaal in order to protect the Volkstaat.  If they do not follow the demands of the Afrikaner Boerevolk, the election will not take place"