ADV MEMANI
No, I can hear both, he can also hear both.
	   Now Mr Bokaba, you say at paragraph 6.2:
"the applicant contacted me with the request that he wanted to join the security force police at the time, well knowing that I was the contact person if he was at all interested"
	Now, Mr Ngo has firstly denied that he ever had this conversation with you and you say that he had the conversation.  What is of importance here which I want you to deal - which I want us to deal with is that he spoke to you because he knew that you were the contact person if he was interested.  I assume that what you're saying is that if he was interested in joining the security branch, he knew very well that you were the contact person, am I correct?