ELSIE BUWA
No, I deny that, he was present.  I even heard his voice as he left my house, calling out: "Come out you comrades, we have arrived".  I maintain he was there.  I can say it in front of his face, he was there.  I am a churchgoer, I would not tell something that is not true.  I would not tell lies.  Jesus Christ does not condone lying.  I do not align myself with such trickery.