MR HATTINGH
Mr Chairman, if you would bear with me for one moment, let me just go through my notes?  Thank you.
	Although no reliance can be placed per se on whatever Judge Goldstone found at the time of his Commission with regard to the Black Cats, he did make a finding that you as well as the other people who testified about the activities of the Black Cats that your testimony was wholly unsatisfactory and unacceptable.  What is your response to that?