MR VISSER
Yes.  Now, if we are to believe Mr Ngo that, in what he says, that he participated in the attack of a house of City Mzuzwana which he thought was the house of Max Makubalo, then I want to put to you this.  That, according to Mr Ngo, Tsoametsi and Mtyala were also involved in that incident.
	Mr Chairman, I am referring you now to, again, to page 12, item (b), paragraph, capitals, bundle C, because I cannot refer you to a record page number.  	
	Now, what do you say of that?