MR PRETORIUS
That's correct.  Thereafter Mr Moolman and Mr Llale scattered in different directions, the shooting continued.  It was the evidence of for instance Mr Molefe that he at that stage - at that stage already he was firing shots in the air.  As from that point in time that the first shots were fired at the corner there was not period when everything lulled, guards were just standing and watching and observing the people in the street, in fact that was the time when the major shooting started.  Mr ... (intervention)