MR MAPOMA
Chairperson for the record my name is Zuko Mapoma, the leader of evidence, I will be engaged in the next coming matter.  I confirm, Chairperson, that Advocate Richard has requested me to make an arrangement that the person in question be available for the next hearing, but unfortunately Sir, I could not do that, because at that time the then legal representative for the person in question was engaged in some other discussions.  I thought, Chairperson, that we are going to discuss that this afternoon, but unfortunately now he is out of the picture.  I will have to take the matter up with Mr Dumakude himself after the adjournment, in the circumstances.