DANIEL F DU TOIT BURGER
No, I think I heard it or read it somewhere afterwards, but I think I have forgotten that, but I think his name is known.  He was known to me as Anton.
	When Mr Verster told me that I should get a bottle from Anton containing the foetus of a baboon, well, I wasn't actually sure whether he was serious or not.  But he was.
	He requested me to take this foetus and a number of so-called treated sharp nails and take it Archbishop Tutu's home and we had to utilise these nails, we had to hammer them in a prescribed way and we had to hang this foetus somewhere and he asked if we could assist in this matter.  He didn't ask us, he simply said I should use Mr van Zyl and his infrastructure to do this.
	I then approached Mr van Zyl, I told him about this, and this was a direct order from above, no pre-study, no "in-house", nothing, apparently the matter was dealt with on some other level.  I was simply told "take the foetus, the baboon foetus, hand it over and hang it up."  That was that.