MS QUNTA
Yes, Mr Chairman, subject to one thing I can just add.  I would like, like Advocate Arendse says, the matter is of public interest, there's been various press leaks leading up to this hearing and it's now important that the matter be raised but I want to state quite categorically on behalf of my client, that I do not believe that my client should be trial here or he should - this is an amnesty application, it's not a place for my client to be vindicated.  He should have been brought to trial if there was evidence that in any way he was implicated - which we deny, he should have been brought to a criminal trial and ...[intervention]