PITSO JOSEPH HLASA
Yes, there were meetings that I attended.  I explained in my application that I remember very well there were many people, Mr Aubrey Mkwena who resided in Orlando East was member of the UDF and there were several meetings with him.  I remember Mrs Sesulu, she worked at Doctor Asvat's surgery.  There were meetings there as well.
	People such as Seti Mzibuko and Amanda Kwadi were discussing this whole issue.  The person who spoke on behalf of the Dlamini people was Kenneth Fitla.  Now there were meetings held on different times, discussing this issue.  I remember our leadership talking to Mr Tutu when this spread from Eastern Cape, so that this can come to an end but it didn't.