TUHLBI MARGARET NLOPHE
It was in the third month 1993.  I was supposed to visit - the deceased sent a message saying that you must tell my mother that before she goes, I will have to see her. So I didn't go to the farms, I stayed at home on the Saturday, it was the 11th. So I had to leave on the 12th. In the evening I listened to the radio on the six o'clock news. It was like I was dreaming.  Because my daughter was not staying with me.  As I was sitting there, Kate came into the ALEXANDRA HEARING TRC/GAUTENG
2 MRS NLOPHE
house.  I said to her Kate, I would like to tell you that Maria Gobela is dead.  She said to me mother, get into the house, I will tell you.  She explained to me, because I asked her how did she died.  Because Kate went to sleep at Maria's place and Maria had a five-year old baby.  The deceased and Petersen and the little child slept in the house.  She explained that she was not there when this happened but I heard people came and they knocked at the door. When they asked them who they were, they said their names. I didn't give you the name, but they said their names, and they asked what do you want.  They said they are the attackers, they are fighting, we don't know why.  I went out. I myself and Zodwa, and we went to the place.  We found that the deceased had been taken to a mortuary, Pietersen had been taken to hospital, I will get more information from the other people. I don't remember who opened the case, whether it is Pietersen, but I know it ended up in court.  In the very same month in which the deceased died, the case was tried in court. It ended on the 18th of April 1994.  I don't know why they killed my child.  If they were fighting with her husband they should have said why, she was killed because she saw them, she could identify them.  That's why she was killed,  Petersen.