MR KAHANOVITZ
Now you were found by Judge Harms to be an untrustworthy and contradictory witness.  I don't know if you want me to show you the - well it's at page 39 of bundle D.  At the top of page 39, Judge Harms has the following to say
"The Commission has a serious problem about relying to any significant extent on any of the witnesses that gave evidence on the various internal projects of the CCB.  On the one hand there are the witnesses such as Verster, Christo Britz, Braam Cilliers and Shane du Plooy, whose evidence is so vague or contradictory that at various points it is no value."
And you'll also see that there is a footnote there, footnote 8, and referring to yourself, Verster and two other people, the Judge notes:
"These witnesses were allowed to testify in disguise.  They alleged that they feared for their lives.  In view of the fact that criminal proceedings are anticipated, their identities are disclosed in an annexure.  The disguise did not render a finding as to credibility difficult.  Viewed as a whole, the witnesses were untrustworthy in any case."
Do you confirm that that finding was made?