MR VISSER
General, it is Thabedi Mr Chairman, the reference I was looking for a little earlier is at page 242 of your record.  At page 242, as we read the evidence, and we may be wrong and if we are we will stand corrected, Van Vuuren gave evidence and in the middle of the page he is questioned by Mr du Plessis and at line 17, perhaps it's a good place to start Mr Chairman, just to refresh your memory he says this, he says;
"Captain Hechter informed me that myself, him and Mamasela, as well as Colonel Flip Loots had to eliminate Jerry Thabedi as he had been identified as an ANC activist".
And then further down the page, at line 28 the question is put,
"Who exactly made the decision to eliminate Thabedi?"
And the answer to that from Van Vuuren is,
"I would believe that this was a general decision by General Viktor....."
or as it's stated here "Victor".
"....which he communicated to Captain Hechter".
Now General, do you know anything about this?