MR VISSER
We're indebted to you Mr Chairman.  The next witness Mr Chairman, which we will present is Mr Kopi.  This is spelt K-o-p-i and his christian names are Segopolo, which is spelt S-e-g-o-p-l-o Petrus Kopi, Mr Chairman.
	I may mention that you might remember that at a certain stage, due to various amendments and further applications coming in and the ...[indistinct] of documents, we informed you that there doesn't seem any point to file any further affidavits.  This is one of the witnesses that hasn't filed an affidavit.