MR BOOYENS
Very well Mr Coetzee let's leave the meat pie and the stop-overs for the time being.
	Let's come to the discussion, the alleged discussion and perhaps I should put it on record now that it's not said later that I didn't put my defence to you.  You have been sitting here in any case, except yesterday, most of the time, so you know what - you have heard the evidence of van Rensburg and du Plessis in any case.