CHAIRPERSON
You know why I ask these questions, part of this Act in terms of which we constitute ourselves here and often a neglected part of the Act, is the question of reconciliation.  Now reconciliation to my mind is not a question of forgiving other people who caused atrocities.  I'm talking about the reconciliation in the interests of South Africa, getting this nation working like it should have been all these years.  Imagine South Africa minus apartheid and its effects and that's the context I raise the issues.  Is there no way we can get onto that road of what South African should have been?  Because it's not what it should be at the moment.  There's too much anger.