ADV TEE
Now, at some other stage I got the impression that the Magistrate was saying that the two that had moved forward were Solly and Conrad and that, in fact, each one had thrown, but now the significance of my question is this, Mr Chair.  When I asked him did he testify like that in court, he has just confirmed now that he did and then he said that the reason why he did is because now, today he tells the truth, but in court he did not.