MR PRINSLOO
Mr Chairman, before Mrs van der Walt calls her witness Bengi Mlangeni, the brother of victim Mlangeni, he says that he opposes the amnesty of Gushu.  Msibi who was also involved in this case will be called as a witness by my colleague and that evidence or testimony will be about that case or incident.  In other words it would not be necessary for me to call Mlangeni as a witness but he sees himself as a victim because he was family of his brother who was killed.