CHAIRPERSON
I would have thought, Mr Visser, that if, unless that didn't happen, but I would have thought that if somebody survived and was interviewed by the police, I would have thought that the police would know exactly who that person was, and even if that person subsequently died, I would have thought that the police would be able to know that, even if they did not know the true name of that person,  would be able to say that it was corpse number this and that. I would have thought so.  But apparently we don't have that information.  We are not able to tie, we are not able to - from the records, we are not able to know which deceased is the one who was interviewed by the police, because that would have solved the problem, if we had it.  I assume we don't.