MR MALAN
May I just follow up?  Sorry Chair.  When I asked you, when I read this paragraph out to you from the Judgment, I heard you answer that they agreed amongst themselves in the court and then you said, "I did not say a thing."  Did I hear you correctly?  Let me take it further, did you give evidence in court?  Mr Dlamini, I'm speaking to you.  Did you give evidence in court?