CHAIRPERSON
No, no, when you were found guilty, do you recall that there were two stages in the trial?  Firstly there was the evidence of what happened on the farm, you recall that, that there was evidence of what happened at the farmer and then the Judge said to you and that you would find on page 35 that you were found guilty on count 1, not guilty on count 6 and guilty on the count of murder.  It ended.  Then he wanted to sentence you and then he said:  "What do you have to say in mitigation?"  Then he says
"The accused's personal circumstances (meaning you) are the following and this is not in dispute", that you are 30 years of age, you had no previous convictions, you obtained standard 6 and thereafter you worked for seven years in the mines and you were retrenched and it was also not in dispute that you were a Lesotho citizen and that you grew up in Lesotho and you have a wife in Lesotho.  Do you follow the personal circumstances which were put to the Judge?  Now this advocate did you know him before, the advocate who defended you?