REV XUNDU
Thank you Mr Chairperson.  Sir I would like to ask this question to Mr Kriel.  Allegations at the time like the allegations that there was a third force, which was always denied, which has been proved true, there were allegations at the time that there was an RSA covert operations run by International Researches in Ciskei, I just want to make sure if there's an element of truth in that allegation.
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