MR LYSTER
13B/28 district of Mpaphala.  Mthandoyethu - we used to call him Ndo for short - he is the last-born among five boys.  His two other brothers at the time he disappeared had also disappeared.  Biyalin Zungu disappeared in 1961.  The second one, he disappeared in 1972, and then after that our other sister and after that came Ndo and then in 1991 and the last one was our sister who disappeared in 1983.  When Ndo left, we didn't know how he disappeared.  We don't know how he left and how he eventually disappeared, but we eventually did hear from the family that he was in Tanzania.  That we heard from our elder brother, who was in New York.  He was involved with the ANC at some stage.  He used to go from New York to Tanzania regarding the ANC activities and our father and the whole family knew that Ndo was in Tanzania.  We were happy to know that he was still alive and that he was in Tanzania.  In 1987 he was seen - Ndo was seen arriving at KwaMashu.  That's where I am.  I've got my own family in KwaMashu.  He used to arrive at relatives near my place and then I would be told that he said I must come at that place where he was at certain times.  He regularly did that at night.  He would be there for a short while, greet us and ask all of us how we were - ask everybody how they were at home - and then he would disappear and usually there were two of them.  He wouldn't tell us who he was with.  We were just happy and then he would just be in a rush.  He really used to be in a rush and then he would disappear again.  He wouldn't tell us where he was going to.  He didn't even tell us how he would get wherever he was going to, but we would be satisfied because we thought he knew what was pressurising him.  He appeared ... (end of tape)