MR DREYER
Mr Chairman if I could just - if I can phrase it like this:  I started off by saying that I understood that when this particular exhibit was placed before the committee it was placed before the committee, I understood, as sort of contributory evidence that in fact there was a planning of such an operation.  That's the first statement that I want to make, but if cognisance is taken of the cognisance is taken of the contents, it is clear from the contents, stated by General Viljoen, that it was in a planned stage, but nothing transpired from that and that is contrary to the evidence of this witness that in fact at some stage he did get the command to ... (intervention)