MR MCBRIDE
I don't think I'm qualified to comment on whether it's justified or not.  I think the statements have been made by the senior political leadership in submissions to the Truth Commission on a number of occasions.  The question of - I must remind you also that the whole Kabwe Conference, being a council of war, came about precisely because of what you've mentioned, because of the attack you've mentioned now took place.  The change of policy in the ANC came about because of the attack on Botswana a year before.  So, to answer your question, I've only have the ANC to guide me on that.