ERNEST PHUMUZI SIGASA
No, not at all.  I think all of us at that time I would imagine, we were in the country.  At that time when in Mamelodi a six year/eight year old run down with a Hippo, then in return the reports would be that no, he was stoning the, she will be run down to death by a Hippo armed vehicle, then the reports would be no, she was stoning the armed vehicle.  You talk of situation where people in schools, children in schools would in fact be sjamboked, teargassed and be shot with live ammunition.  We are talking at that situation at that time when the mood of the people was very high.