JABULANI JOSEPH KHUMALO AKA ACE
So, I left work after receiving that message from one of the Soweto leaders politically, by the name of Comrade Nzi Mhlowayi who was the National Executive of the Youth League of the PAC.  I drive to Soweto in the place where he directed me with another comrade which I went to collect.
	Arriving at the place they took me to another house where a member of APLA by the name of Moss and known code name by Moerapapa in the APLA circle.  Then I could not ask many question as the matter is being of sensitive.  My role there was to pick up the comrade and take him to the safety place.  I took it to my own place.  It was very painful.  I never saw a person in this colour.  He had no blood, he was look greyish, pale, I believe he lost a lot of blood because of the operation during the night of raid.  He was injured right here.  He had a big hole here.  I took him to my place.  
	In my place I organised a member of the PAC then who was a matron at a Natalspruit clinic, and through her we got hold of the doctor.  We also got another comrade and ask him to look after him for the full time of recovery because he could not stand up, he could not even go and wake up from bed.  He was to be assisted all the time.  So I had a comrade who assisted on that one.  Fortunately he's around here in this room as well, who was a full time aide.  We didn't ask Moss in the first two days of what happened because according to doctor instruction we were to let him relax.  
	After two or three days we asked him of what actually happened, because we were to account to the leadership of APLA if being asked.  That's how I came to know about this case actually.  With Moss' word, he said he had just recruited the lumpins.  The lumpins in revolutionary terms are criminals, the people known as "tsotsis".  He said, "I have recruited the lumpins into units of the Azanian People's Liberation Army and I've gave them instructions that they should go to disarm in order that they arm their unit.  Because of their lumpinism, that's how I got injured, because if they were clear on the code of conduct, they wouldn't have went along with the stolen gun as an exhibit and attract the trace of clue of what happened.  So because of them being not knowing they leaded the police to where he was and then there was a shootout in that place".  
	So, I am here just to confirm that this particular case is the case that has the PAC link and PAC blessing because of the cadre of the PAC who was sent through infiltration to home here and find some units, build units and carry on the operations as APLA demand.  Although we were politically leaders, we were to assist only the forces on the time like this, logistics and things like that.  We were not involved in their practicalities, but we were just to assist on the top where they like us to assist.  So that's where we got involved.  
	So, as of Moss, I believe that the comrades, they only know that he died on that operation on that confrontation, but Moss survived because he was shifted from that area to East Rand and we managed to let him heal to an extent whereby we had to take him outside Azania to Zimbabwe where he was fully treated at the military hospital of Zimbabwe, because the hole needed a fully attention of hospitals where they should run the stitch and things like that.  So, we could not send him to hospital because of the attitude.  So, after he recovered a little bit we sent him outside to Zimbabwe through APLA means of escaping.  
	So, I'm just here to confirm that this case, because of Moss' involvement and Moss gave a short information about it, it was an APLA operation and Moss unfortunately he died in 1994 in Pietersburg operation of APLA.  I will not know exactly the time, but I do know that he was buried the time when Sabelo Pama landed here in Jan Smuts Airport for burial in that weekend.  The very same day Moss was buried in Alexander - in Pietersburg, I'm sorry, where his home was.  I don't know if there's anything.