MR BLACK
Mr Mndebele, we've heard evidence you were a prominent member in the community and in Ermelo community and structures.  You're aware of the fact that one of the applicants, Gushu, was recruited in order to carry out the mandate to restore stability.  Now, the actions and as a result of Mr Gushu's activities in that community in carrying out this mandate, did that in any way improve the situation?  Did it in any way restore stability to an extent?