ERNEST RAMATALA
Not necessarily to kill but to stimulate them to work - we were dealing with people who were former ANC members so sometimes as a human being I might - presume that I'm an ANC member - I might see you, maybe I say: "Comrade I don't report or I don't arrest you" but the bonuses was the way of making the person to feel like arresting anybody, that he knows exactly this one is from that side.