ABOOBAKER ISMAIL
Basically to elaborate that I was a member of the ANC and of MK, of the armed wing of the ANC.  It does therefore not mean that you know, we don't see, we see them as separate organisations or that - rather the one was a subset of the other.  But as I elaborated, not everybody was a member of MK, not every member of the ANC was a member of MK and just to highlight that.