BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
No, I understand your answer.  You've said no.  I understand your answer.  Can I ask you the next question then?  You see, when your counsel led you reference - extensive reference I must say - was made to documentation relating to the recruitment of special constables.  Now, I don't want to go through every page with you, but I want to put to you is that from these various pages that were referred to, as also the statement of Mr Adriaan Vlok, and in particular Brigadier Mellet, when he said that the special constables were not supposed to take sides, the