HERMANUS BAREND DU PLESSIS
Well, the black areas had nothing normal about them.  The schools couldn't continue.  Delivery of goods by means of delivery vehicles could no longer take place safely, crime could not be properly investigated in the areas.  Our soft body vehicles had trouble moving in the areas.  And I could say that it was the beginning of perhaps not even a beginning, but a far progressed along the road towards disabling government in this area and on its way to a situation of anarchy.