MR MAPOMA
Yes, I like the part alleged self defence.  It must be noted Chairperson, that it is incumbent upon the applicant to come to this Committee and own up to the actions that he did unequivocally and that has not been done.  The applicant is coming here to say on the one hand, I did this thing in self defence, then I'm not liable, but if the Committee may find that I'm liable, then I apply for amnesty.  Chairperson, that is not an unequivocal taking of responsibility for the consequences that took place on that day and I'm saying, for that reason and that reason Chairperson in particular, he is not owning up to the responsibility of his action.  In fact that is not in accordance with the intention of this Act.  The spirit of the Act, Chairperson, for granting amnesty, is for the person who did that which is wrong to somebody, to come to this Commission and say:  "I did this thing, it was wrong, I appreciate that, it was unlawful, it was a crime, then I apply for amnesty."  The victims are here to listen to that person who talks like that and that has not been the case here.  Thank you.