RAYNER MARIA MORINGER
Initially what I understand but I have to assume this, because I was not there, was they got initially the orders from Colonel Mzwaiba as their superior Officer.  For the overall operation, while they were in Pretoria, there was a situation where we cooperated and we, put it this way, once the operation was decided upon and the people were in Pretoria, the orders for the operation as such, the overall orders had been given already, I presume by Colonel Mzwaiba.