SATHYANDRANATH RAGUNANAN MAC MAHARAJ
Ah, now we've come to another problem now.  We've come to the next problem and let me take counsel through that one as he's taken me, with your permission Sir.  It says there, paragraph 2.1., MK Lucky sent agent PN 664 to Swaziland with regards to activities in the Msinga region, activities of MK in order that the person convey a report and bring back instructions from the ANC Natal Machinery.  That is saying, is virtually in command of Msinga region within the country.  Then it goes on to say what discussions took place in Swaziland on the instructions of MK Lucky and then the reporter's report in paragraph 3 deals with all those discussions and instructions including a sketch of a DLB of weapons.  Having gone through that part of Lucky, in the substance of the report, Cap Botha in processing it and commenting on it, then identifies Lucky as an agent of the South African Security Police as PN664 reporting and falling and says he's a rehabilitated terrorist.  That tells you he's working for the South African regime.  Then he goes on and says in paragraph 38.7 that he also has an MK name as Bongani.  Now what have you told your entire division including your policeman in Msinga area?  What have you told them?  You've told them that this man must pass through any road block, don't worry but let him go through because he's our man, let weapons come through, he's our man and we have got two people, Lucky plus his courier, are both our agents.  Now what are you doing?  Violence erupts in Msinga area and who's doing the violence?  Is it ANC or is it the Security Branch?