NICHOLAS JACOBUS JANSE VAN RENSBURG
No, I don't know, I was not informed to this effect whether - Captain du Plessis did have at all to report to me, his position was such that he had to report directly to the head.  He came and mentioned things to me which he felt could possibly also relate to trade union matters or labour matters, those are things he would have mentioned.
	Sometimes he would have come and discussed things with me regarding things he needed advice on or an opinion on, just a second opinion.  Those are the things he would come and approach me with and possible to Colonel Erasmus afterwards, that was the day to day conventions.