MARY BURTON
Thank you Mr Tshemese, we have heard really this account of a very great tragedy in Phillipstown and our efforts to come at the truth have seem to me while I have been listening as if we were - as if we had an apple in front of us, and people were taking bites at the apple from one side and the other side to try and establish the truth from their part.
 And in a way it helped me to see that once you finished taking bites at the apple, you have to meet in the middle.  And telling the truth for the Truth Commission is one part of what we have to achieve, because it does help to try and reach that point in the middle where we really believe we understand what happened.
 But at that same point, we have to come together and come together not in conflict but in recognition that everybody was a victim in that situation.  We have the tragic death of Sophie Butele  and the tragic death in the Tshemese family, both of which things that should never have happened.
 And we feel that you have all come here today and re-experienced that pain and that anger and we hope that it has helped you in some way to put some of those very strong feelings aside.  And it is our responsibility but also yours, and that of all the people in your communities and particularly the leaders in your communities to find ways of moving ahead.
 We can try to help, we can offer the opportunity to organise workshops where we can explore these topics further, and we are very available to you for that.  But in the end you are the people who have in any case, survived the years since those events.  It is your own strong communities that have helped you somehow to live through them.  And it is your own strong communities that will help  you again we believe, to come through this period.
 So we thank you all for your courage and your frankness in telling us of your experiences.  I have found it a very moving and a very difficult day in many ways as I am sure every - I have the sense that everybody here is sitting like I am on the edge of my chair listening to these things.  And we value the honesty with which you have spoken and the courage with which you have spoken and we thank you very much indeed - you Mr Tshemese and all of you who took part today.
 Unless there is anything else that you want to say, you - its all right for you to leave the stage now.