JACOBUS JOHANNES DE RU
It's very difficult for me to say what their reaction would have been but I believed that they would give themselves up and the moment we made it clear to them that they were surrounded they'd give themselves up.  This is not normal police procedure where you go to a person and say we're arresting this person.  We wanted to create a shock effect on them and that's why we used the shock grenades so that they can realise that there's a very strong action taking place against them.