MR LOWIES
May I just ask an indulgence, I just want to get some documents with your permission Chairman.  There are so many, I can't have them all in front of me.  Mr Nosenga, according to the Police docket in the case where you were convicted, you mentioned an incident where you, Hunter Ndlovu, Victor Keswa, Papie, Mzwake and Sipho left from kwaMadala hostel to Sebokeng, you were driving a 3 litre Ford Cortina, Hunter was the driver, the purpose was to shoot at comrades, members of the comrades.  Do you know anything about this?