MR TIPP
Mr Ngobese, I'm going to suggest that you're being frank with the Committee with that answer.  I'm going to put it to you that it was clear to you and the others in your group that this was not a suitable road for you to move down and that the only reason why you did in fact enter that road is that you charged forward in order to attack the ANC personnel there and potentially the building itself, of Shell House.