GIDEON JOHANNES NIEWOUDT
Mr Chairperson, he was handcuffed from Walmer police station.  We accompanied him, myself, Captain Siebert and Warrant Officer Marx.
	He was taken to the Sanlam Building to the interrogation room, and he immediately sat down on a chair in this office.  At that stage, what I can recall is that Captain Siebert told him you will sit down when we tell you to do so, and you are here in our area, and I will tell you when to sit.