MR PHOSA
I'm sorry, I speak carelessly because it was not my client, I'm sorry.
	Who, you and du Plessis - yes, but it is correct what I - what I have in mind is correct.  If you and the other two juniors had gone ahead to eliminate these two without the knowledge of Mr Erasmus, you can't expect him to be very, very bitter when he got to know that you had done it - in the light of previous conduct?