MR DREYER
: No Mr Kloppers, you are now at the murder and the cutting off of the ear.   I have nothing to do with that.  I say on the one side, you want us to accept that you protected him from the two shotguns and then you come here and say he is the source of the instruction;  he is the man that said go out and look for illegal weapons, confiscate them for the purposes of the revolution.   Would that be a problem for him if he gave you two shotguns, but there is no problem for him if you come and say openly in Court, that he was the person who told you to go and get weapons for the revolution.   I don't understand.