SISI KHAMPEPE
Now when did you first become aware of the number of MK members that you had to transport from the border into the Republic to infiltrate the country?  You have already referred to several meetings that you had, both with Mr Madima and Mr Boyitanyo in Botswana, but what I want to know is, when did you first become aware of the number of MK members you had to transport?  Was it after the first meeting with Mr Boyikanyo or Mr Madima or was it after the second meeting?