MR NGUBANE
Honourable member of the Committee, I do agree that this answer seems not to fall in square with what they have been testifying.
	But the applicant went further and said that although it was not ANC policy to attack people, the circumstances were such that they had to defend themselves, and from that I gathered that by defending themselves in his mind, it was created that they could kill people if it was necessary.
	I do submit that they were told to defend themselves, it seems that that was not defined and it was left carelessly to their discretion to decide what to do, although they knew that the policy was not to kill, but circumstances were such that they decided to kill people, and they understood that as defending themselves.	That is all that I can submit here.