MR LOWIES
Mr Nosenga, why would Mr Kjellberg make mistakes like these, let me list them for you.  Just in one paragraph, and it pertains to a paragraph where you implicate the Police.  Firstly according to what you told him, it was a big hall.  You say no, it was a stadium.  Secondly according to you Mtwana, that is what you told Kjellberg,  Mtwana Zulu held a speech - would you just bear with me - now you deny it.  Thirdly, according to you a certain Danie was there, that is when you made the statement to Mr Kjellberg, today you deny it.  And Danie was not only there, he also made a speech, today you deny it.  It appears to me that you had a motive previously to implicate as many people as possible and that you have forgotten which facts you conveyed to the Investigating Unit, not so?