DALAQOLO WORDSWORTH LUTHULI
Can I expantiate a little bit, because I cannot answer the question briefly.  When Paul Berry told us that he had to remove his personnel first, I asked him that I thought that we had a good relationship, what did he mean when he said he had his own people there?
	What were they doing there, because those were the people who were responsible for attacking us.  He said that the strategy that they were employing is that in an area where they identified Inkatha as being weak, and the UDF as being strong, they used to try to remove the IFP that was present in the area.
	And then where the IFP was strong, they would try to remove the UDF.  The strategy assisted them in monitoring the area because in an area where there were these two groups simultaneously, it became difficult to monitor the area.
	I then told Mlaba that we should let him do as he says.  When we were at Mlaba's house, I then said to him that it is clear that the war is not just between the IFP and the ANC.  I told him that from what the Major had been saying, it is clear that the Military Intelligence was behind the attacks.
	They were responsible for killing the members of the ANC or the IFP or the UDF.   In the process they were using us, to kill each other.
	I then advised him that we should go speak to the UDF leadership, because we had heard that we are being destroyed by the Military Intelligence.
	We then did so.  By then we embarked on a peace initiative.