BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
Yes, I was going to point that out because we could only come to that conclusion if the Applicants were to overcome the ...[inaudible] of the list.  Assuming they overcome the ...[inaudible] of the list, what we have would then only be the fact that she knew about it.  She did not tell anybody else.  She didn't go to the police.  She was aware of the discussion and that does not or would not make her surely a co-conspirator.