JEFFREY THAMSANQA RADEBE
Well, as a person who was living here in Southern Natal and as Chairman of the ANC, I need to correct maybe the perception that only the Self Defence Unit that the ANC was involved in, were involved in the protection of communities.
	In many instances Self Defence Units were a spontaneous creation of the masses of people where violence was.  So, I was aware for an example that people on their own accord used to find their own weapons, used to find where to train.
	I am generally aware that some of the people used to go to the Transkei.  As far as you are concerned, our main priority was to make sure that where our cadres of MK were involved, limited training within the constraints of security had to be undertaken because we were always emphasising the question of discipline on the question of the Self Defence Units where our members were involved.
	Yes, indeed I am aware that in some areas MK used to provide some form of training to the people, otherwise it would have been irresponsible for us to allow the distribution of weapons to people who would not know how to operate an AK47 or hand grenade, etc.