PHILEMON KABILA MAXAM
Before that day, if we can remember well according to the history of South Africa, Mbekweni was one of the places where violence against AZAPO that was helped by the police was very high.  You could not, as a youth at home and not a member of AZAPO, hearing stories at home and seeing violence at school, you could not, just not do anything.  If they wanted to stab you they would stab you.  The police would be there and they would do nothing about that.  Even before this day of the 15th of April Mbekweni was in chaos.  There were a lot of stones, because the roads were being fixed at the time.  There was a war there, it was terrible.  Nobody could just sit back.  If you just sit back you just be arrested in any case or AZAPO would give you a weapon to fight against the people.  I got involved a lot in direct clashes against AZAPO.
	A group of them came to my house prior to this day that we are talking about.  They said that they had finished Abraham Rasta.  I was the only one that was left, they were going to come and finish me off as well.  I asked why.  They said I had burnt down a house and killed a child.  I asked them if they were the police.