TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  When I picked up the telephone on that particular day I realised that our line was off, and I asked my sister as to what was happening.  And she told me that I shouldn't pay much attention to it, probably the line would be working later on.  Then we went to sleep.  In the middle of the night we saw torches and we heard loud knocks at the door.  A white man came in wearing a khaki coat, and he asked as to where Thami was, and we told him that he's asleep.  He went into the house and sat on the bed, and we woke each other up.  But Thami was the last to be seen, and he directed Thami to dress up.  And he went to a certain suitcase that had Thami's clothes, and there were certain photos that they used to take when they were on their tours with the choir, and they asked him as to how he got a certain photo, and Thami said he got this photo at the seaside.  They took him with, and they wanted to take the radio as well as cassettes that were there.  And they wanted to know what was happening in those organisations, so they took the cassettes as well as the record player.  They put these in a pillowcase.  They handcuffed him and they took him with to the car.  Thami got into the car that was behind the other one.  We went to C R Swart and we sat there up until the following morning.  And on the following morning they brought an exercise book.  They wanted to test our handwritings, and they asked us certain questions.  At that time there was a certain white person who was wearing a white safari suit - I don't know what his name was - and he would fire us with questions with regard to certain organisations.  And if you do not answer satisfactorily, or in the manner that he wanted you to answer, he would hit and assault us with an open hand on the face.  And apparently Thami did not want to disclose any information, and he was told that he was going to explain certain things.  There was a certain photo.  In this photo they used to take - especially the  youths who used to skip the country used to have Thami's photos, and they would always show this photo in order to gain entry or to leave the borders of South Africa, and certain youths were caught with this photo of Thami, and this is what caused all the problems.  After they had interrogated us they brought us food, but Thami didn't want to eat at that time.  And they said to me they had discovered that I was innocent, and I was supposed to go back home.  And I was not satisfied.  I wanted to ask them to let me see my brother so that I could bid him goodbye, and they asked me as to why I was saying that.  I told them that I had no hope of seeing my brother in future, because they had killed a certain Mr Mdluli and they would probably do the same to my brother.  They told me that they would not do anything to my brother.  They forced me to go home.  Then on the following day I heard that my brother was dead.  They said he had hanged himself.  When we went to see him he had a scratch or a laceration on the neck, and they said, "This is the laceration that resulted from him hanging himself."  Then I went to Gale Street.  When I got to Gale Street with the death certificate they put me in an empty office and they kept on talking to each other.  And I went to the reception to inquire as to why I wasn't being attended to.  They told me that I had to go to C R Swart to submit this death certificate.  I went there, and I never got any information as to how Thami died and I never got the death certificate.