TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  I have just one last thing to say.  I am requesting the TRC please do investigate this case and let the ANC know, inform it that it should come to Ficksburg.  They should inform Pius and the other members that they are coming, because the people of Mukaleng share no interest in his leadership at all.  We have told ourselves as the members of the local government that we are not going to provide our support because he is a snake and he is involved ... (intervention) (Inaudible) ... not to make insults in public like that.  We're not allowed to permit people to do that.  We know that you feel very strongly about the incident, and we thank you for your evidence.   ---   I also thank you.  Pius confessed in the presence of us all while we were at the hotel that he did all this, and enough evidence came up, and I will leave you with this document so that you have enough evidence.  And other people were also present.  I want to be really ... (intervention)