MR P DU PLESSIS
Yes.  And let's have a look at this, in Shinaaz Limera's statement on page 209, she states
"... On the  31st of August (that is page 209, bundle D) at approximately eight o'clock, I was at the Early Learning Centre in Springbok Street, Athlone, to attend a meeting of the Cape Youth Congress (sorry Mr Chairman, this I cannot really make out this part of the handwriting) we held our meeting ...