MR VISSER
Well, I wouldn't know.  But a reference number is given S4/44328, which obviously refers to Mr Radebe.  Okay.  Now if I may pause there to inform you what I have been instructed in regard to the abbreviations or the letters preceding numbers etc in this document.  I am told that the S prefix refers to Security Headquarters.  I am referred to also, that the initials F A, Freddy Allen if I may put it that way, refers to Photo album.  That album is an album which contained hundreds if not thousands of photographs of people suspected of being ANC MK SACP Azapo, Azano supporters which were all in a bundle for purposes of identification.  I'm informed that wherever there's a reference to NGN, November George November, NGN, it stands for "Nie geidentifiseer nie", loosely translated as not identified.  And then you will find, Mr Maharaj, as you no doubt have observed, in the document there are references to V for victory as a prefix to other letters and numbers and you will sometimes find a V1 or a V2 or a V3 or a V4.  Now I am told that what that represents is "Veiligheid" or Security and the 1 was the category dealing with whites.  V2 was the category dealing with coloureds, V3 was the category dealing with Indian people and V4 was the category dealing with blacks, so that if you had a reference to a file and it was a black person, it would then in the division itself be referred to as V4 etc etc.
	Precisely the same obtained as regard to Security Head Office references.  The S would be followed by the equivalent of 1, 2, 3, 4, denoting exactly the same categorisation, according to race.  So in this document or in these documents Exhibit J, contained in Exhibit J, you will find such references and when you do you will then know what that is intended to denote.