TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Their ages I can only remember when I've got their birth certificates.  The older one, who was born when our house was already burnt out, he started getting stroke, getting sick.  He was born in 1960.  I used to go around with it in 1960 during the time the congress was burned.  This child now has got a stroke, is disabled, and cannot work.  For now he has just gone missing, and he was eventually discovered at Umkomaas.  When he gets sick he loses his mind and he goes away and you can't find him.