NEO POTSANE
To answer that question Mr Chair, I think I said earlier on that, and I want to repeat even today that when this group was surging forward I did not claim to see the first group or the front of the group.  I did indicate that some of that part of that group might have already went under the balcon because this part is a kind of a balcom where you cannot see underneath and that I cannot say you know whether it was the first group.