MR TLOUBATLA
He has got it with him.  Thank you.  Mr Morris it is my feeling and I want to agree with the newspapers that you know these two incidents, that is your incident where you were killed, I mean where your friends were killed and you were so much tortured, they are so closely linked that it is my feeling that the inference that I'm making that it was to avenge what you went through.  Do you see it the same way as myself?