CHAIRPERSON
Yes, I understand the argument, I understand the purpose possibly of putting this to Mr Dyasi in view of your client's apology and so on, but how does it help us to decide this, if you elicit, whatever you elicit from Mr Dyasi in this regard, whether he says he believes you or he does not believe you or he believes Dr Knobel or he does not believe Dr Knobel, I mean it does not help us at all, it does not assist us to decide the matter.