TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  We got there and we sat around the table with that white man who was there, and I gave this white man the letter.  He read it and asked me didn't the mayor tell me that he was looking for me.  I said, "Yes, he told me."  Then he said, "Why didn't you come, because I was looking for you?  You went around to your friends, and after that you get this letter to take it to me," and he tore that letter apart and said, "You are a bitch."  And I said, "You shit."  I said, "You should come to me alone, and you went around to friends and contacting other people, and you are coming after a long time."  And even what I was trying to relating to him he could not understand me because he was so furious and fuming.  Each time I would say something, utter a word to him, he will respond immediately.  He asked me who were investigating the case.  Because I was confused and shattered I did not know who were investigating, and there were investigators standing suddenly.  I did not even know when they came and who called them.  He asked them what did they know about Makutha's issue, and there was one police I knew, it's Hadebe, because he was my neighbour, and Hadebe explained and said at 18 it's Inkatha which is leading.  And they were talking, talking so many things that I can't recall.  After some time he turned and looked at me, this white man, and said to me - and said, "Take this lady out of my office," and these police took me out of the office.  I left that place.  I was confused, I did not know what was happening.  You know we drove a long time, and I did not even know where the taxis to KwaMakutha were because it was such a strange place that we were at.  I left - but I am not going to dwell in this matter.