GIDEON JOHANNES NIEUWOUDT
According to my knowledge, Mr Jack lived in Klemia Street, New Brighton at that stage, with his uncle.  So I have no knowledge of the fact that his house in Zunga Street, Zwede, was petrol bombed. 	Regarding Mr Hlongwane,  that is nonsense.  I deny it, because Hlongwane was a witness in a particular case in 1983 and how could I then use him to attack other people.  It is untested and he is a second Matiwane.