MR RUDOLPH
Commissioner, I must say to you that I was given information during this hearing.  Not one of the people was known to me.  Perhaps Mr Terre'blanche can be of more assistance, but I do want to say that not one of these members or one of these people were members.  I am now firstly referring to page 113.  Those people, Messrs Badenhorst, Conradie and Koen are known to me as members of the AWB.  These were right-wingers, they were supporters of political parties etc.  On page 114 the persons who were injured testified in court and I heard about the injuries.  I do not know any of them.  My own name appears there as one who was injured.  I won't take the situation any further.
	The other people of the black people who were there and who were injured, many of them did not appear at court, so I did not have the chance to ever listen to them or to know how they had been injured.  There were people who had testified in court that they had been thrown, stones had been thrown at them, but I do not know any of them personally.  And as I say, I do not know of a single member except for myself who was a member of the AWB and who was injured there.