MR WILLS
Yes.  I'm referring to - sorry, Mr Chairperson, possibly I must give this an exhibit number.  This is a statement made on the 31st day of May, something that I was handed earlier today.  I think this can be Exhibit D.  It's a statement made before a magistrate in Durban and I battled to get the thing in order, but it was made on the 31st of May.  The magistrate was Mr M M Gantshe, or Gantshu.  I think it's G-A-N-T-S-H-U, with the interpreter, Themba Nkosi Ntombene.  I don't know if you have that statement before you.