MR DOUSE
Soyisile was not a member of  any organisation, he was just someone, I  don't know how to put it.  He was someone who  use to just to get drunk and then from time to time he would go to those meetings  - our meetings but they were not full meetings at that time, because we were being chased around by the former Government that was in power then.
 At Bhongolethu  special, we were living very sad and difficult life in those days, so much so that I had  - at the time I had a shop, that shop  - there was a Captain Marx who - who  was - who was very  active at the time.  He said he was going to close my shop because I was one of the UDF members and he said he knew I  was a member of the UDF and that there were many things that there was stolen from my shop.  There was a number of stolen goods in my  shop and that's how we lived at that time.
 I don't want to say much about some of the things, some of them are forgotten, I  don't want to make a detailed description.