CHRISTOFFEL PIERRE VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Well plans were being made constantly and as the commanding officer and also as the chairperson of the JMC I was aware of constant plans being made and also the situation was very fluid, so we had to make contingency plans and plans for different options.  But in the year after we made Plan Strelitzia, we then gave birth to Plan Katzen or Plan Katzen was written.