TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Jamile at that time was the Deputy Minister of the Interior at KwaZulu Government.  As I've already said, Inkatha was involved in the election.  He was staying in the ward I was staying in, so I was really directly in challenge with him in the elections.  In the nominations you were nominated by ten people, so that you could be in the board.  He got less than 10 votes.  I think he got about 7 votes.  It was very - well, it wasn't clear to us how did he get involved because he didn't get 10 nominations.