FUNDISILE GULENI
Okay.  Like I myself, the main task that I was in charge was to go and recruit in the bridges outside town, also including town of course.  So at times when I get in the office to check the occurrences, I used to get a report from the administrator that there has been information forwarded into the office that there is an infiltration as indicated by Pumelele.  But also, there's an area which is known as Bantu, Bantu at Port St Johns, where it was alleged that there were suspicions that some weapons have been loaded at Bantu.  So also other facts are those that have been already given by Pumelele.  So what happened, on the basis of that information we got, I together with Mr Vigetu, the then Chairperson of the ANC as I was the Secretary and also another executive member Kholiniswa Mgune, went to regional offices to report the matter that we are operating under threat and even at that time we couldn't say that we have a tangible evidence around this but we felt we are under threat because these people are infiltrating the area so that's how it occurred.