MR VISSER
All right.  You see, because then it becomes very difficult to understand Mr Ngo's evidence, because he told this Committee that you pointed out to him that where he applied for the burning of a house of Max Makhubalo, he was mistaken.  It was, in reality, and, in fact, the house, the parental home or the home of Mr City Mzuzwana.  That is what he told this Committee.  Do you want me to repeat all of that?  It is rather a long statement. I will repeat it for you if you wish or do you understand it?