MR WILLS
With respect, Mr Chairperson, I don't see any contradiction between this and the evidence that has gone past so far.  I think it's common cause to my mind, unless I'm misunderstanding something, that this informer was actually operating under Visser.  That's exactly what the witness says.  Unless I'm missing the point of this cross-examination, I see that as being Mr van Zyl's evidence.