MR PATEL
As it pleases you, Mr Chairman.  There is such an agreement.  I beg leave to call Mr John Mndebele who features as applicant number five.  Mr Chairman, it was my intention to lead Mr Mndebele with regard to the background.  On the brief historical background document contained in the papers before you, I see there's no such copy before the witness and I wonder if such a copy can be placed before him.  I think also it's probably necessary for me to mention at this stage, which I ought to have mentioned earlier on, what I've picked up from the bundle of papers, which we all seem to have, is the form, the application form which forms part of the Bundle A running from sixty eight (68) to pages seventy four (74), whilst it relates to a Mkhwanazi, it is not the Mkhwanazi which is applicant number four.  There is an incorrect application form in the documents before you.  I have mentioned this to the leader of the evidence and he has undertaken to ensure that the correct application form is placed before the Committee, as well as all my learned friends present here.