MR KNOETZE
Now do you see that in this affidavit - this is an affidavit, in other words something more than a report, he says in paragraph 12
"There was no planning done in my presence to kill anybody in any way at any time.  I would in any case not have involved myself in such a conspiracy to commit murder."
Do you now want to tell the Committee that this man has now changed his recollection of what happened at the meeting and has now adopted a totally different stance?