MR VISSER
Thank you Mr Chairman and Mr Malan.  Just to go back to the question of the Chairman, there will be evidence later from other applicants in the other incidents, but is it your recollection that Major Andy Taylor at the time, was the Commanding Officer if you will, of the Terrorist Desk, Section?  Let me repeat that, of the Anti-Terrorist Section - a tongue twister - in Durban?