RAYNER MARIA MORINGER
I did not have a political problem with the National Party government.  I had at that stage definitely, call it this way, a problem in as far that I approved the transition and what is going to happen thereafter.  I personally disagreed with any attempts to disturb a peaceful transition.  Obviously also from information over this period which I got from Mr Mbotoli, what was actually brewing in the background, I definitely  politically disapproved of that as well.
MR Z. MAPOMA: You know, I am asking this question sir because I want to understand really what is it that made you to participate in this operation and what kind of a person were you politically because we need to establish really the political objective that made you to participate with this particular operation.  I am asking this because you will remember that you were a businessman and historically you did participate in businesses in the Bantustan areas like Transkei, Ciskei, in particular Ciskei during that time?