SATHYANDRANATH RAGUNANAN MAC MAHARAJ
My view is simple, based on this, their own reports.  As  you see in paragraph 41, if the name Jabo appears, and Jabo is not a complete name, does not enable you to identify.  I will show in the subsequent reports how they would follow through to reach the identity of the person.  Get photographs, do searches to identify the real name of the person, but here they are actually saying, "not of any security importance" and you see on the next page that that report had the distribution list, there are 14 groups to which it was distributed.  Anyone of them reading it is seeing Jabo is not of any importance, don't waste your time.  On the other hand if the person is a confirmed agent or informer, the person would feature in the report as PN, as you see on page 1.  Page 1 says the informant PN664 has established the following information.  So no name appears there, no identity appears and it is distributed to these 14 groups, but they have no way of knowing the identity.  What they have is the content of the report.  That's my response to that, that measures could be taken, but I will show other measures that could be taken because you then turn to the next report J2, which is page 13.  There you will find that the report has been filed on the 14th of September 1988 and it has been filed by Capt H J P Botha, the man who says he recruited Charles Ndaba to be his informant.  He compiles this report and what he does in the report is to say, I'm confirming that the photographs circulated to all of you is a photograph of Charles Ndaba. And Charles Ndaba's name appears in paragraph 2 as Z Ndaba - FA4190 PN, but the distribution list for that is to 15 different sections.  If Charles Ndaba was Capt Botha's informant, would he hand him over to the wolves deliberately, when he has the mechanisms to conceal his identity?
	The next report Sir is a report dated 18th of July 1988.  And this one is handed in by Sgt Lodge Labuschagne, page 15 and it deals with a black woman called Ellen.  On page 16 once more paragraph 2 the identification is Charles Zakhele - Charles Ndaba FA 4190 Port Natal, file number S4/62573.  Not a PN number and its distribution list is at the bottom of that page.  And then if you look, Sir, because of the character of Charles Ndaba, to Exhibit J4, page 17, that report is dated 1987.  Why have I brought it?  I have brought it here to say that that is how seriously Pretoria saw Charles as a military adversity, that it is not an accident that at Piet Retief and in the ambush in Swaziland in June 1988, efforts were made to get Eugene de Kock's unit to eliminate him.  That's June 1988.  It's no longer two divisions not knowing what they were doing because this distribution list includes in some of the documents C20, it includes C10.  
	I then turn to page 18 and there the report is dated 31st of August.  That is where again in monitoring all people that they come across in Swaziland, they say in paragraph 2(4) that Z C Ndaba, also known as Charles, has been deported to Lusaka.  But just above that Sir, you will see 2(3) R P Lalla, permanently resettled in Maputo.  Both of these comrades of mine, because of the sterling work that they were doing in Swaziland and because they were seasoned in Swaziland, were withdrawn and subsequently re-entered South Africa in 1990 as part of Operation Vula.  Lalla was arrested at 1 o'clock at the safe-house at the Knoll, but I'll come to that later.  I thought I should put these reports to show Charles' background, his calibre, the nature of the monitoring by Pretoria, the fact that his identity was being circulated with 15 sections by Capt Botha and those sections included sections that would try to eliminate him and therefore I certainly challenge the view that his deportation was arranged to Zambia in order to save his life.