J A STEYN
His meetings with Ndaba took place in ways which, as I understand it and according to normal practice and procedure, in such a way that Ndaba could have been aware of our methods of operation, making contact etc and Ndaba had also been at the safe-house and he'd been interrogated there by other members, members from Head Office, he'd made certain identifications from a photograph album and Shabalala had done the same, so in this process, according to Botha and I agreed with him, Ndaba could have become aware of more than just that which him and Botha had talked about and discussed over the months.