MS LOCKHAT
Chairperson, if I can be of assistance here.  What I can do is contact the Archbishop, because he's basically the only person that's being prejudiced here, that the baboon foetus incident, him being a victim.  So I can clarify with him whether he has any opposition to us making a decision without him being here at the hearing, Chairperson.  So I think that's the only person really that is suffering prejudice in relation to that.