CHAIRPERSON
You see, there were 9 accused at this trial of yours.  Accused number 1 was apparently Ernest Mthembu.  Now it's important, for some or other reason the document that has told us who the accused were is not photocopied in our bundle, I don't know why the first page of the indictment with the names on is not before us.  We've only got the name, on page 44, the name of accused number 9 which was Christiaan Israel Nzimande, so it's important to know which number accused you were because accused number 1, number 5, number 8, three accused were convicted of stealing money, theft.  You were not number 1 because according to page 45(a) Ernest Mthembu was accused number 1.  We also know you were not accused number 9 because that is Christiaan Nzimande, page 44, but we don't know what is in between.  Can't you remember which number accused you were?