MR SMUTS
Mr Chairman, one would hope that the proceedings would not be delayed by the failure or refusal to make available the record of the criminal trial.
	We by force of circumstance, because of that failure or refusal, whichever it may be, have had to rely on the facts as are recorded in the judgement both in respect of conviction and sentence, and to a lesser extent the judgement in respect of the admissibility of the confessions of the applicants, well, three of the applicants in the criminal trial.
	So, there are suggestions in the judgement that some of the matter which is recorded in the applications, may not accord with what could have been led as evidence in the criminal trial.
	But at this stage, it is not possible because we don't know what the full version is, to be definitive about that.