MR HATTINGH
Mr Chairman, I do not wish to interrupt this proceedings unnecessarily, but I would wish to object to the manner in which the evidence is led and perhaps I can seek assistance from the Chair.  In normal proceedings one would not allow a witness to just follow a prepared witness statement and give his evidence from that statement.  That is in a normal court of law, in normal court proceedings.  I do not know exactly what the status of this particular document is at this stage.  Does it form part of the amnesty application?  It wasn't signed.  It isn't signed as yet.  As we go along it is just read to the witness and he just confirms whatever is said to him.  Until now with the background perhaps it didn't matter that much, but when we're now getting to the gist of the matter and all the incidents, I would appreciate it if we could get some indication or direction from the Chair as to how this witness is to be led, whether he's just going to hear whatever Mr Black is going to read to him from the statement and keep on confirming whatever is said to him.