GEORGE BIZOS
Now as far as Mr Winter is concerned, may I refer to page 838...
"Yes, I thought that he could not say anything to you in connection with education and that he would recuperate in Cradock in connection with..."
	And then again in line 25, "I want to ask you, there was an unsatisfactory situation in Cradock.  Children did not go to school, there were school boycotts, the civic system did not work without the JBS. What was the solution?  The solution was to have dialogue with interested parties and this was why I had an appointment with Mr Goniwe and it was our discussion, we had future communications".
	Would you agree that your perspective of Mr Goniwe was completely different to that of the Security Police and the man on the spot in Cradock?