MR SHANE
Mr Chairman, because first of all, I don't believe that the rules pertaining to these applications are enforced as stringently as they would be if it was before you in the High Court Mr Chairman, number one.  Number two, number two Mr Chairman, evidence under oath was given to you that the applicant was there.  That was evidence under oath.  All that would happen is a repeat.  If I got an affidavit from the other applicant, from the applicant who said it under oath,  would it merely be repeating what he said under oath.  Whatever he said to you was under oath.  That you've got to accept Mr Chairman.