CHAIRPERSON
Call your client back please, we want to ask one question.  Mr Guleni, there are so many people who have died and suffered in the past of this country and many of the instances were for utter nonsense, circumstances created by actually apartheid, the manipulation of the apartheid agents.   I want to ask you this question that irrespective of what we find here, whether we grant or not, what are the prospects as far as you are concerned, what would be your attitude to meeting the families of the victims and the victims themselves in an attempt to live together in this country of ours and make peace with them and they make peace with you?  What would be your attitude?