MR HUGO
Then Mr Radebe will say that they were given certain information, which I'm not going to ask you about or put it to you, in that you don't know about that.  When they got back from the Defence Force base or police station, they then obtained weapons from Mr Willie Nortje and these weapons were then loaded into - well loaded from Mr Nortje's vehicle into the kombi for the first time.  Can you remember that?