MR HATTINGH
As far as I know, the death of the mother occurred on the 12th of April 1992.   That was on the same day that Chris Ngwenya got killed.   I'm now talking under correction, I believe that people went to the applicant's mother's house and that she got killed at her house, but the circumstances, right now I cannot tell the committee all the details.   Mr Khaba, you were part of the SDU formation for a period of two years then, is that correct, approximately two years?