MR DU PLESSIS
I didn't believe that after I found the note and after he was in that room, that there was interrogation done by people from East London, it was done prior to this if I can recall correctly.  If it took place in those offices I believe that he would have left the room, yes.  Under normal circumstances if we do interrogation we ask to be left alone with the person, so I cannot see why he - could have been there.