EUGENE DE KOCK
Chairperson, there was only one such meeting at the Jan Smuts Holiday Inn.  During that meeting, it was only Duli, his bodyguard and I, but also during that meeting, Duli and I worked out code names for ourselves, he provided a telephone number for me, so that I could contact him.  It led to a telephone booth somewhere in the vicinity where a woman would usually answer and then I would use his code name and provide a time when I would call again, at which time he would be there.