W RIAAN BELLINGAN
That is correct.  All those persons at the scene come from different branches, Guguletu Detective Branch, etcetera.  So, there was not a rigid rule or guideline that was laid down, so that these were all trained men.  If you withdrew, then they moved.  I met some of the previous evening, some of them I did not even know.  I only realised that afternoon who they were.  So, these are faces that you see and every person would have decided where he was going to go.  If I can remember correctly, a vehicle was burning and somebody said he was going to look at that.  That is my reason.