TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Thank you.  Of course we come to this - you know, I come to the Commission as the spokesperson for my family, and whatever I am going to say will be a recollection of events surrounding the death and life and circumstances of my brother.  Firstly I was very pleased to hear of the establishment of the Truth Commission, and it was something that we prayed and hoped for for the last 10 years, and it has been actually almost 11 years since - or 10 years since I last saw my brother alive.  We always believed in truth and justice, and it was something that we always thought will - that truth and justice will always win, whether it's today, tomorrow, or in 10 years' time.  And it was this philosophy that really made me think about myself and look into myself after Lennie had died, and I asked myself, firstly, do I want justice - as we believed in this philosophy of justice and fair play?   Do I want justice to be served onto the wrongdoers, especially those that had administered justice the way they did to my brother, and the people of this country?  Do I want it to be meted out in the very same manner?  And there were times I wanted this type of justice, I wanted this jungle justice, blood for blood, and an eye for an eye, but fortunately there were times I wanted to learn the truth.  And those times that I wanted to learn the truth actually calmed me in my need for such justice.  Truth is what we all want, and truth I think is what we deserve now.  But the most soul-searching part comes after truth, and that is forgiveness.  I had to think long and hard about forgiveness.  I am still fighting with this.  It's not an easy battle.  There are times I seem to be losing - losing the battle.  At this time I am compelled to know the truth, but in knowing the truth I will obviously at one point in time have to forgive.  But what do I forgive, who do I forgive?  It seems this road of forgiveness, or this battle that I have with forgiveness seems to be a round going around in circles all the time.  Until this road straightens up perhaps I can forgive.  But through this Commission I hope that these perpetrators will give us the truth, and only the truth.  