MR TLOUBATLA
I'm going to read from The Weekly Mail of the 18th of December 1986 and I'm quoting one of the paragraph there.  It says
"Mhieza says AZAPO has its own code of conduct which all our members subscribe to and deviances are viewed in a serious light, however where and when the need arises for our members to defend themselves, their family and property, they should do so with means commensurate with the danger they apprehend"
I've just quoted from what Mr Mhieza said, that was in December 1986.  You spoke about ...[intervention]