CHAIRPERSON
Well let's be fair to his clients, I'm not talking about him, he has a job to do.  His clients, as time went on and as evidence came along, started to water down the initial proposition that their targets were in fact MK members who posed a direct threat to South Africa.  I understand what you're saying because later on when it became convenient, some of them said no, it was the broad ANC rebel group that we saw as the enemy.  We're aware of that.