CHAIRPERSON
I don't follow when you say attacking the farmers was not an offence because my brother asked you that you were fighting the police, the army and you say: "in addition we targeted the farmers" and the question that logically followed thereafter was that that was an offence and you say no, it was not an offence.  Were you trained to fight the farmers, or were you trained to defend the community against the police or the army?  Let's get that first.