MR DERBY-LEWIS
Mr Chairman, please, grant me an indulgence here.  Mr Bizos has made a very, very snide remark, as though I am a defender of apartheid, and Mr Chairman, I have categorically stated on numerous occasions, I am not a defender or a propagator of apartheid. I detested apartheid because in terms of Mr De Klerk's own admission, apartheid was a policy of White supremacy and the Conservative Party's policy has never propagated White supremacy, Mr Chairman.  We propagated equal - equal opportunities and equal self-determination ...(tape ends)