CHAIRPERSON
Mr Lamey, can I just for clarity, when you put 
questions to the witness, you put it to him that Mr Snyman will say 
quite a few things and one of the things that you said he would say 
was that an askari was mentioned and that he caused trouble etc, 
etc.   What is not clear to me is this askari, when you said an askari 
was mentioned at Vlakplaas and that he caused trouble, was the 
askari who caused trouble in Vlakplaas or is it the askari that we 
talked about in PE?