TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  That's a myth you are talking about.  I am finished.  You are talking about myths.  That's it. And then secondly your own situation at your home, where your house was burnt and your stocks were destroyed and so on, was there ever any case involving that issue?  ---   In my story I had attorneys, Wenza Mlaba, Bheka Shezi.  Also there were affidavits.  But I did get an opportunity.  After my hiding I went to Umlazi charge office.  I did not mention my name, I did not tell them I am Gasa.  I just went there as Msomi, because I knew that there could not be any charge, also any kind of forging, you know, because I am still Msomi and I am still Gasa still.  You know that's our culture as black people.  And I asked - I came at the right time when they were talking about those things.  Police were saying, "We will finish this riot and everything that was taking place."  And I came.  After saying that I am Msomi I said, "I want to know about D1187.  What happened about the whole thing?  What happened, because the house got burnt and what happened?"  As Msomi they were trying to look for my file.  It automatically happened that I said, "I am Gasa and the owner of the house."  They chased me away so rudely.  They said, "We are not talking to ANC here.  You are just coming in here to philosophize.  You are this ANC, you are Khoza, coming here to philosophize."  You know, it was a matter of must that I should leave the charge office because I had no chance at all.  After leaving the office in my car I said, "No, I have just made a blunder.  No, these are just boys who are chasing me now.  Let me just go back to the station commander."  And also they said the same thing.  So they were saying one thing, saying, "We are sick and tired of ANC."  I never went on.