MR WILLS
As you please Mr Chairperson, I'll get more to the point.  Mr Ndlovu, what concerns me is it appears after having read the Record of the Judgment in your trial and also having had sight of the Appeal Court Judgment in your matter where your appeal was dismissed, that in fact the orders that did come from IFP leaders after the killing of the six children were exactly not for Inkatha members to take revenge for the killing of the six children.  Are you aware of that?