MR MHOLABA
Clearly that amounts to a departure from the ultimate objective of going to that area.  But I would want to submit, Mr Chairman, that I view that as an issue which is, it's a new intervening event which was not part of the entire transaction and therefore I submit that that should be viewed in isolation from the entire transaction, and in fact that becomes a pure criminal act.  But I submit that it should not be tied into this entire transaction which was planned, that is to go and rob the firearms.