MR WILLS
Now in paragraph 30 you touch on an area that has also been raised by Mr Luthuli in his evidence and in fact Mr Mkhize and that is the training of other IFP members.  Now Mr Luthuli's evidence to be brief was that effectively those persons who were trained would go into their communities and they would train the IFP youth in order that they would also be utilised in a military sense to participate in what has been referred to as this war against the ANC, is that correct?