MR MALAN
Sorry, just before you allow her, Chair.
	May I just get clarity.  When Ms Thabethe read you the portion from the judgment on page 119, she read about the necklacing and the post-mortem examination conducted by Dr Govender, and she asked you for your comment and you said it was a lie, it wasn't true.  Was the deceased not necklaced?  Is that your evidence?