CHAIRPERSON
We've had other matters Mr Bizos where we've heard of particular incidents.  One Panel comes and they listen to five or six incidents committed by a particular unit of the police which has committed hundreds of incidents.  Now if each and every such hearing had to get the full background, it would be an almost impossible situation.  We are aware - I don't think it's been denied, well perhaps that could be asked - has it been denied whether the CCB was involved in the killing of other people generally?  Whether it was ...(intervention)