ADV POTGIETER
Mr Maseti, Mr Mfazwe, good morning again and welcome.  I think will start with Mr Maseti, you are in front of the microphone, so we will listen to your evidence first and then we will deal with Mr Mfazwe.
 Now as the Chairperson has indicated - your - you are both from Noupoort and your experiences are very, very much identical.  Happened also roughly at about the same time and that is why we've got you both together, but we will start with you Mr Maseti.  
 Your first experience was during 1985 when you were detained in Noupoort.  I will deal with that experience first and then move to this one.  Can you tell us briefly - in 1985 were you in involved in the community structures in Noupoort, and if so what role were you playing and which structures were you involved in.