MARTHINUS DAVID RAS
Chairperson, if I recall correctly, and for all the incidents where I apply for amnesty, it was the only instance where it was necessary for me to plant these weapons on the scene.  As standard procedure I did have a Makarov with me and I was also attached to Koevoet and some of the weapons came back with me.  For a long time I worked in Bophuthatswana where in one year we arrested 18 ANC members and some of those weapons, because of the instances where it was in Bophuthatswana, which was independent, I did not hand in all the weapons.
	After I contacted the special investigation team and told them I would give them my full co-operation, I handed three containers with weapons which I had buried.  Mr de Kock also did know of all the weapons and amongst others there were 5 LMGs, 6 Makarovs and some explosives.