MR NOTUNUNU
Thank you very much for that Mr Matshaya.  Now, let's come to the late Mr Phungulua.  You are saying Mr Phungulua was in fact an Askari and you have made the description of the Askari.  Could you elaborate on that so that the Honourable Chair and the Honourable members of the Panel, could really know what is going on?
	Could you elaborate on the question of the late Phungulua being an Askari?