BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
Sorry, Mr Visser, I'm going to go back to the question of ninety 99%, 100% certain of the details.  Mr Mohape, it could - I won't be able to recall details of Ngo's evidence around that, it could be that like you said, he said that you assaulted with hammers, it could be that he said, like you said too, that you were transported in a bakkie, that you were kidnapped and the like but did you hear him tell us as to who assaulted you?