CHAIRPERSON
Well let me digress a bit.  Then, and I don't mean to pose awkward questions to you, I just need to clarify it in my own mind.  If it be a ...(indistinct) that was developed in the realms of moral wars, that you consider yourself with the injuries caused by the activities of MK and that when you did eventually go visit the family, you were not urged to do so by the prospects of Amnesty, why did it take you so long to go there?