MS THABETHE
Well I've already stated that my instructions are that not all the houses were burnt down and you have responded to that, so let's proceed.
	With regard to the killing of Amos Cele - maybe before I start asking questions, Mr de Jager has questioned how old Mr Amos Cele was and my instructions are that he was 79 years old, Mr de Jager and the Honourable Members of the Committee.
	My instructions Mr Cele, are that the incident happened at around 5 o'clock to 5.30 in the afternoon and not at 7p.m.  Would you dispute this?