MR MOTLAUNG
Okay.  Look, you see the possibility that I am seriously looking at here is that I am actually shocked in the first place that bearing in mind what position you held within the AWB and the Ystergarde and that you were not somewhere here in Jo'burg, you were at the place where the things were happening.  That when these bombs come for you they also come when you didn't expected them.  You didn't expect the Germiston bomb, you didn't expect the Bree Street bomb, correct?