GEORGE BIZOS
Mr Chairman we take up the attitude that the roster of the President's Council is not evidence of the presence of Mr Derby-Lewis in Cape Town on those dates.  We do not admit it.  I don't know about the claim form, but I don't know whether this has anything to do with this witness Mr Chairman.  Certainly this witness can't testify.  Can we deal with the evidence of this witness and then we can deal with other matters by persons who may have knowledge about that.  They can't be put in through this witness Mr Chairman.