CHRISTOFFEL PIERRE VAN DER WESTHUIZEN
Yes, that is correct, that is what General Liebenberg also told me when we discussed this.  So the idea was then that from our side and from the Defence Force side, that the establishment of the XWB, that we should assist with that with the liberation of Charles Sebe and that the Transkei would then take the lead assisted by the Ciskei leaders in exile and then behind the scenes in a low profile we would then assist the Transkei to continue with the rest of the plan.