UNKNOWN
With respect, Mr Chairperson, it is of cardinal importance because my point is the following: according to the Tebbutt Commission's findings there was approximately twenty minutes while the people were lying outside of the vehicle and that is what we heard on the television as well.  And in that twenty minutes that we saw on the television there was no fear of shooting or war and the applicant said that there was a war situation but..
	Mr Menyatsoe, how long did it take before the Mercedes Benz stopped and the people 
got out, what was the time span?