MR WILLIAMS
As it pleases the Committee.   Mr Chairman, I will submit that in essence what is required of the applicant is that he should make a full disclosure of the incidents in respect of which he is applying for amnesty and that it should be politically motivated.   Your Worship, I think it is common cause that full disclosure had been made.  One of the victims in one of the incidents, are here today and he does not dispute the, he does not dispute the facts as portrayed by the applicant.   With regard to the other incident, the sabotage incident, there is nothing to controvert the evidence of the applicant in that regard.   It is also clear from the applicant himself that the incident was not driven for financial reward or because of spite, ill-will or malice.   It is also clear from the applicant's testimony that they pursued a political agenda.  Mr Chairman, I want to submit that the fact that the targets here, the chosen target was a Rent Office or the Civic Centre in the one instance, and in the other instance, it was a police station involving police officers and also the Regional Services Council, that does not detract from the fact that his actions were politically driven.   It is on record that the ANC during the time, or before these acts were committed, made a call for its members and supporters to make the country ungovernable and they specifically included institutions like the Rent Office, the Civic Centre as legitimate targets for attacks, and I think that is also contained in their submission or the further submission to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.   In as much as the applicant and the members  of his political organisation heeded the calls to make the country ungovernable through these measures, the same is a political objective.   The call for better facilities or access to certain facilities cannot be separated from the general apartheid institution, because the resultant effects of apartheid was that it (indistinct) certain facilities to the vast majority of the population and that is then also why the applicant and his fellow members, decided to mobilise around bread and butter issues in order to generate support for themselves in the community.      In conclusion I wish to state that the applicant participated in these incidents in a bona fide manner, pursuing political objectives and as a result thereof, amnesty should be granted to him.  Thank you Mr Chairman.