MR MBANDAZAYO
Thank you Mr Chairman, that's the case Mr Chairman.  You know very well how I struggle but Mr Chairman I've tried to, because I was trying to get Mpathlele but it seems as if he has given now a mandate to his deputy and other members who were in the decision-making, that somebody can come and give evidence.
	Now the problem I'm having at the present moment Mr Chairman, is to get hold, whether I can get, because they were not aware of that.  That's the problem I have at the present moment.  He has delegated them to, that they can come and give evidence.