CHAIRPERSON
You see what concerns me, and I speak for myself, we haven't discussed the matter and I'd like you to deal with it, is that one the witnesses, one of the applicants says, you know someone in particular, I don't know if it was George or some other person or they may be both, just filled in these forms as a matter or urgency and he was told to sign.  Now even at the best of times we know those things do happen.  It explains to me to some degree why this cloud of secrecy that is apparent in these applications, why there's no specific issues mentioned.
	There is of course one exception to that, I'm saying generally, for example, this one phrase here:
"Offences during the SDU activities"
or whatever, it certainly by itself wouldn't qualify for a successful application.
	Now I'm not saying we're going to find this, it is an issue of concern to me that an applicant who are generally, and I viewed them, some of them cannot, and I say this with the greatest of respects and it's not their fault, cannot be regarded as mentally equipped to understand this document, let alone complete it.  Therefore I can understand that other people who claim to be au fait with the rules and are able to fill it in properly, by the way we discovered thereafter that they also themselves are not equipped, can we hold anything against the applicant for such defects?