SAMUEL KUDZINGANA
Yes it's the same because I'm saying witches were used to give the people in high positions in the government medicine so that they can remain intact and be powerful.  So when we tried to make the government fall it was impossible because of these witches and these witches were also protected by the police whom we suspected that they were supposed to protect the community, but then they were protecting the witches and the police are the government officials of the government of the day.  So in that way we realised that these people were all a big obstacle of preventing us from re-incorporating our government to the Republic of South Africa where we were really intending to do so.