MR SIBEKO
Mr Chairman, I would submit that what has been testified by the applicant is the truth.  Firstly because having to travel to Duduza, although we don't have evidence as to how long did it take them to exchange the firearms, that is from Zinde to them, how long did it take them to conclude the deal and driving back, but having to be disturbed by the road block and having to turn back, drive to Dawn Park.   Mr Chairman, he further testified that they arrived in Dawn Park where they parked the car and got into discussions as to what was to be done thereafter.
	It is possible Mr Chairman that during their discussions or during the period when they were strategising, the victims arrived and the shooting started.  It's possible Mr Chairman that if the arms were fetched in the afternoon, that is travelling to Duduza and coming back and having to turn back into Dawn Park and park these cars, it's possible Mr Chairman that at the time the incident where the late Mr Thompson died could be the time that is reflected in the records that we have.