MR MAPOMA
Thank you, sir.  Mr Mndebele, I just have one point, sir, to clarify with you.  In your background statement, in page thirteen (13), paragraph 16.2, you say there there was an implied instruction to Gushu that he was to obtain arms and ammunition to finance these operations from whatever source, including armed robbery.  Are you aware that Mr Gushu has applied for amnesty for armed robbery here?