TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  I will explain that here in Durban I grew up in Durban, but I was born in Potchefstroom in 1936.  From there I came here to stay with my father, who was working at King Edward.  At that time he was a clerk there.  I went to school here in Durban and my father took me to King Edward.  I also became a clerk in King Edward.  During that time I joined the ANC.  That was the most famous organization in King Edward at that time.  I worked there and in 1963 I was arrested.  We were arrested with regard to ANC, but I did get released by this lawyer called Austin.  After that I had left King Edward.  I went to do the taxi job.  I didn't like this taxi job and I went to the firms (?).  I educated my children and they went to Ongoye.  The elder daughter went to do a B Ed and the boy - the boy who was here, who was injured, was doing B Sc at that time.  When I was working in the factories there I was working at the national key point.  Those were  /the very