ADV MOTATA
What is it, when people come before us and they say, "This is all we know of and concerning his death, we know nothing else", and you have not produced the evidence to challenge that, how do we find that they're not telling the truth?   I mean if one bears in mind that, on the evidence that we've heard, there was no suggestion that Vips was brought to any of the two shacks, all we know is that he was part of a group of the Youth League who went to Manyala to report that they were being harassed by the SDU, Jebe arrived, gave a background of what had happened, he ran away, someone caught, and he ran away, and then the rest of the SDU's then returned to the two shacks, went to the killing field and then returned to go to Buthelezi's house and then dispersed.