ALWINUS MRALASI
I'm going to remember just now because I want to - I want to - name these so as these person - so as to get satisfied.  And Harry Mapirey, X54.  I don't know whether  he was a police man or what.  So I was called and they asked whether I was Alfiuns Mralasi.  Then I said no I didn't know that person.
Mralasi was right but Alfiuns was not the name, otherwise my name is Alwinus.  So I asked them to call  Alfiuns in my place otherwise I'm Alwinus.  So I took out my identity book and also a letter that came from home with the news that I had a baby boy and I took - gave it to them.  The judge looked at me and looked at my ID book and said you are Alfiuns.  Then there was an argument about this first name of Alfiuns.  Then he said this belonged to Mr Brunette, who was a prosecutor.
I kept on saying they should call Alfiuns because I was Alwinus.  So Mr Brunette paged through his statements for quite a while.  It was even longer than five minutes and the lawyers were watching and other men were all watching.  And the judge then asked me if I knew Mr Jose - then I said I knew him.  I said yes I was calling him as Chawhe, in his clan name.
Then he asked me what TV Jose meant.  Then I said it meant Thami Victor Jose - he asked about his name.  I said he's - was in Somerset East.  Then he asked - he said Mr Maruma had told him that I could repair a radio.  Those were the radios that had some wires.  And we used to do certain things to the radios, that was before the FM.  Then it happened that they could not get Alwinus so I was discharged.  Then at Pollsmoor I was given a ticket and I got onto the train and on the 1st of '69 I came to Victoria West -  that was the 1st of May 1969.
At home I found my house disorderly, my children were very thin, my wife - who had never worked before -  was working for Mr Van Britten who was a farm owner and I'm now telling you about how we used to suffer those days.  My wife was earning R4.00 monthly and during the day she would get a plate of mealie-meal, half bottle of paraffin - mind you.
We had five children and she had to feed this children with all this, because one of  my daughters was at High School and - but she had to leave because I was not there.  So when I got home, I saw the baby boy and I was looking at my baby and this baby was running away from me - crying - because he could not recognize me.  And it was really hurting to me, then he ultimately got used to me and he grew up such that today, as I'm speaking to you now, they are grown-up men.
Bishop knows my eldest son - he knows what he is today - he is a traffic cop today.  My other daughter is a teacher in Colesburg, my other daughter is a teacher in Richmond, another daughter is a nurse because God has worked.  That is as far I can go ...END OF TAPE 3, SIDE A...