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I think it's very important that we don't lump all Self Defence Unit members in the same category.
	There may be areas where there was more discipline and areas where there was less discipline.  I think when looking at the Thokoza area, it's very different from how the other Self Defence Units worked.  For example in the Thokoza area the vast majority of weapons did not necessarily come from the ANC.  These weapons were actually purchased by the community, by the Self Defence Units raised in the community.  So those weapons did not directly come from ANC stores or whatever the case may be.  
	And also if I can just comment, there was a structure in Thokoza which may not have existed in other areas, which had some kind of, and this structure tried to keep control.  There was a code of conduct which each Self Defence Unit member had to sign and breach of that code of conduct was actually dealt with by the central command.