MR HATTINGH
Secondly, to exclude other or the members of the public, the people who are not victims, that sense, once again I have received a little scribbled note from my "clients", in which they say they would prefer that the public be present.
	Now for what it is worth, I think it is important to still bear in mind to what extent excluding a part of the public is going, what the result will have on the perceptions of the public as to how open this hearing is.  How is this community going to benefit from excluding certain parts of community in hearing what this person has got to say.  
	This witness has - there are full indications that this witness will provide extensive background as to reasons and instructions for the killing of various of my clients.  My position would be, although we've heard that there were threats made to the life of this witness, no mention has been made of the names of the people who made those threats.  We don't know whether they form part of my client base.