MR VISSER
Chairperson, if Mr Wills wants to dispute that, that was said by Mr Wills to both Mr Wagener and myself in the hall during an adjournment after we had for about the fourth time, asked for photographs.  But if Mr Wills wants to dispute it, Chairperson, let me read to you what is at page 1905.  Mr Wills in the second part of - one third from the bottom
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