MR LYSTER
Thank you very much, Chairperson.  Before I call the first witness of this fourth hearing in KwaZulu Natal I would like to say a very special word of welcome to Judge Hassan Mall, who is the Chairperson of the Amnesty Committee of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.  We are delighted that he is able to join us today.  I would be very grateful if he would stand just for a moment so we could recognise him.  Thank you very much.