SYDNEY LESLEY ONTONG
Well, we are, we were a very close family, we are very close now, even more so.  Their health, their personalities have changed to such an extent that they cannot believe what actually happened, it is so unreal.  You read about these things in the newspapers and you never realise, until it happens to you, how close it is.
	I mean there has been many accounts of people being killed, not property, this is the point, it is not property, it is people that is being killed.
	They never realised that it would be so close, that it could happen to anybody and naturally it happened to Paul, very close.