CHAIRPERSON
I propose that we adjourn till 2 o'clock and they will now have an opportunity of discussing the matter with Mr Brink, of satisfying themselves what they want to do.  Would that suit them?  Right.
	Before we adjourn, for the sake of the clarity of the record, I would like to place on record that Mr Stander came to see us in chambers with other counsel this morning and he made us aware of the problems that were facing him and the fact that he might have to withdraw.  
	Thereafter both he and Mr Brink communicated with those responsible for arranging legal aid through the TRC head office in Cape Town.  There were discussions between the interested parties and a final figure was arrived at which did not suit Mr Stander, which he rejected.  
	And it was thereafter that he had - well, while that was going on, we understand that he also had discussions with the victims his clients and Mr Brink was also present at some of these discussions so they were aware of what was taking place so they may not have been aware of the precise reason why Mr Stander wished to withdraw.
	We propose now to adjourn until 2 o'clock and request Mr Brink, that you talk to the victims and see if we can reach some clarity.  Mr Mthembu, we appreciate your position entirely.  It would be I think, very awkward for you having acted for some time for one of the parties and now to be acting for his victims who might want to put a somewhat different complexity on what - complexion on what happened and I think that you can't be expected to put yourself in that position.  Thank you.
COMMITTEE ADJOURNS