N JACK MENERA
She was not against that, she was not against.  If I say she was not against this, she knows the situation in Brandfort area very well.  If she could have said to me, Jack you are wrong, I would be telling you as the Commission that Winnie disapproved, she was against, but I didn't say that  to you, I was telling Winnie about our actions, now what she said to me was, after this incident you have to leave this country.