MOKOTEDI MPSHE
Thank you Mr Chair, that is exactly what I wanted to put, to carry forward.
	To respond to the Committee member's question to me, whether it was a question or he wanted to know as to whether I agreed that the taking of the car was in furtherance of their mission.  I do agree it was.  That is precisely the reason why I don't even want to touch the robbery, because his evidence is very clear that they wanted transport.
	I accede that, but my problem was based on this issue of recklessness and Mr Kanyile not having been even in their mind, that he might be killed, but to be threatened.  Perhaps if we push it a little bit further on the threat, and we try to cover or attempt to cover threat as may possibly mean, murder, then I will still have a problem.
	A threat remains a threat, it cannot be taken to the extent of saying a threat means killing, taking the life of a person.  That is why I raised this issue, it impacts itself on the provisions of the Act, I think Section 23, on the question of proportionality.  
	Thank you Mr Chairman, if - I don't say the Committee is agreeing with me, but if I am good enough to persuade the Committee on this incident, then I don't think the applicant qualifies for amnesty.  Thank you.