LAURENS MBATHA
I was actually informing them about the developments.  From the time when we attempted to take Smiles, I also went to them to inform them that finally Smiles is going in.  It became so unfortunate, the statement that I uttered to them was: "You are coming out" because the agreement by then that we knew Smiles will be handed over, then investigations will continue - they will be released.
	Up to the time of the appeal at that early stage because through Mr Isaacs there was an attempt that the case will be appealed because of this fresh evidence and new evidence that did come up and I was always keeping them informed about those developments.