MR MBANDAZAYO
Thank you.  Let me then go to this question of disclosure.
	Chairperson, the evidence, the first applicant who was Luvuyo Kenneth Kulman gave evidence before this Committee and told the Committee what happened on the day in question, that the purpose was to kidnap Mr Mike Meyers but unfortunately they couldn't do that, they ended up killing him and also in the process they shot his daughter and they left with his daughter and dumped her 60 kilometres away.
	And the second - and according to his evidence it was that ...(intervention)