MR WAGNER
Thank you, Mr De Jager, I should have made this more clear.  My client is not opposing the amnesty application of Mr Coetzee.  But the fact is exactly the way Mr De Jager described it, my client, I've said this today here, he has applied for amnesty himself for certain incidents, but he can't apply for amnesty for something
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which he was not involved with or has no knowledge of.  So therefore, to protect his rights in that regard against possible future prosecutions etc. it was my instructions to appear here and to put his denials regarding certain allegations and nothing more.