TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  In all these things which my father has said he has said them well, but the death - even the incidents which happened before, the harassment by the police, made us suffer at all times, because in many instances we find the police already crowding the house with guns that he was sought by the police.  One day he was asleep, and all of us were asleep, at night.  When  they came they just uncovered everybody, they uncovered the blankets, and they were looking for him.  When we asked them why they are looking for him, we were not supposed to ask.  They would shout at us and then they would uncover us from the blankets.   And they find him where he was asleep.  They pushed us and then they took him outside and they will start asking him.  Even the elder one, they used to assault him the time when they called ... (inaudible - end of Side A, Tape 2) ... together with his wife.  At times we will see the people called ... (inaudible) ... which is the special constables.  They will just enter the house and they will not even ask any questions.  Even at school he was not free at all because all the time he was sought by the police.  He had scars and wounds and bruises all over the body, because at times, you know, he would get swollen on the face.  At times he would be able to identify the people who assaulted him, and there was nowhere he would take this case further legally or to court.  We had to leave our jobs because of the incidences which happened to our children.  He liked education, and the teachers liked him.  He was on standard 10 then, but his life was a problem to us, caused problems, because at times they would tell us that if they don't find him we should go and fetch him, because he's a comrade, he's working with Mandela.  That's how this has affected us.  What happened to him is that when he was detained, when we go to look for him tomorrow he's there at home, and then the police would come and look for him again.  This child was with us then.  We tried to make the girlfriend continue with her studies, but after the death they took the girlfriend and  together with the child, with not good communications by