LAURENS MBATHA
Yes, I am referring to the 80's.	At that stage we were receiving money from the Namibian Council of Churches as students.  We, actually, went to the Namibian Council of Churches only to find out exactly can they finance us to skip the country.  The idea was, no, that they cannot do, but we must use our monthly allowances.  Unfortunately, for that end of the year, November and December you were paid, actually, a double amount of money.  That resulted, I am not sure, is it into R360,00.  Myself and my colleague then, actually, left Namibia through Gobabies.  When we came into Namibia into Botswana, that is Buitepos, we were arrested, because when we left the idea was very clear, we were going to join the ANC.
	I was arrested in Botswana together with Zamkolo.  At that time what we learnt, they wanted, actually, arms from us and we told them that we were just students.  We stayed in Buitepos in Botswana for a period of ten days until we were transferred to Gabarone.