EUGENE DE KOCK
It was a continuous situation Chairperson.  Just before the second attempt, when Nieuwoudt, Brink and I met at a holiday house at the coast, I would not be able to find it again, but it was where Anton Nieuwoudt told me that there were 22 men who acted as sources for him, that he had to support these men and their families financially, these men served as sources for him and received salaries on those basis, that they were former members of the Transkei Security Forces, they gave training to the Lesotho Liberation Army who worked from Transkei into Lesotho, that these people were well trained, and after this unsuccessful coup, he told me that these men, some of them were killed and some were caught, but that he still had to support the families financially.  It was not an impulsive attempt to usurp Gen Holomisa's government.