MR MBANDAZAYO
Mr Chairman, I still have a problem with that.  If the Committee has a problem, I don't have a problem, I can fetch the affidavit of Luyanda Gqomfa.  That is not true what is being said by Mr Prior.  He still in the affidavit of Luyanda Gqomfa, that was not the position.  If he is talking about APLA then I would understand maybe the submissions of APLA but if he's talking about the Heidelberg incident during the amnesty hearing, it was clear that he was given an order in Umtata.