ULRICH SCHELHASE
To be honest with you Madam, I think there was a paucity in government thinking about how to address the revolution, and that once this McEwan strategy was presented by the military it made sense in a way, but to uphold such a system as I explained just now needs all the resources one can muster.  The first, most important resource, is a decision.  I mean if we talk about R18 million worth of housing development as part of a pacification scheme then we need people who can make decisions of R18 million, which wasn't me.  But you needed -and in that context it became important that top level management should become involved in the system and that they know about it which would probably make their decision-making easier.