MELFORT YAMILE
Yes, something like that.  And then afterwards we used to hold meetings in Crossroads with Mr Hoza who were in Nyanga Extension who left in 1985 to Site C.
 In 1985 to be brief, we were called by the Chief Commissioner in Cape Town where he was Chief Commissioner, Mr Tim Bezuidenhout.  When he called us there the Nyanga Bush area, he called the group from Nyanga Bush, he said my Committee must go outside and then we were outside, he said I must left behind, he said the Minister Gerrit Viljoen asked him to chase them to Site C because there is a lot of money in the government.
 I said if it is going to be like that, I must tell the people that are going to be chased, because I won't take the bribery, you must rather give the bribery to them.  They said okay, don't be stupid. Go and think about this.
 And they went out and told the others.  While they say you must go out, they asked me to stay behind in order to bribe me.