JEAN DU PLESSIS
Col Roelof Venter came in and told me that White and Grobbelaar were dead.  Then he left the office. At that stage I still was refusing to say anything at all.  They made me stand.  The one policeman shouted at me, ordered me to stand up and I had to stand like that for a long while.  Later he left the office and another young policeman came into the office. He spoke to me in a gentle way.  He left.  The first policeman, the older one came in, I can also mention his name. I think it was Warrant-Officer Tjaart Fourie. He shouted at me and asked me who had given me permission to sit.  He made me stand up again, and just sat and stared at me in a very intimidatory fashion.