MR VISSER
You see, I don't want to cut you short in any way, but it's not a terribly relevant point, with great respect, I'm not going to rely on it.  The only reason why I'm putting the question to you is just to allow the Committee Members to place matters in perspective with the evidence of Oupa Makubalo who also gave evidence about this and Mr Motsamai who told this Committee that he was listening over the earphones about what was going on in the hall.
	That was that incident and the only reasons for the question through you was just to place the Committee to remind them that it is that situation.  Nothing else turns on it.