ADV NTSEBEZA
We understand Thomzama that this is very painful, could you please and endure until I finished asking questions.  These questions will enable us to finish this report.
This - this is a very unique case from all the cases we have heard, we've been listening to cases where our people were being killed by police and the Government but now this is unique because our people now are being killed by our own people at the same time.  But now we are forced now to try and get all the details about this, so that in the report that we make, the Chairman of this Commission can be able to bring out the foolishness of these murders just by suspicion - just a few questions then I will let you go.  Do you know the husband to the deceased?