DJ MKHIZE
Mr Chair, our syndicate ended up having lots and lots of weapons.  I have already explained that I was instructed by Capt Langeni from Ulundi to go to Port Dunford to pick up some of these arms from Mr Thomas Buthelezi who was in charge of the camp.  And I also got hold of several bullets.
	And some of the weapons, like hand grenades, I also still remember that there was something at Esikhawini at the time because there was Mr Khumalo who was in assistance of Inkatha.  He too sent me to fetch some of the hand grenades at the camp.  And some arms came with Joyful Mthethwa.  I am not quite sure where he got these arms, but I must also state that I indicated yesterday that at the time when we were forming this hit squad Joyful Mthethwa was one of the people to whom I was referred for assistance.  So that arms and guns such as Scorpions came with him from Nseleni.
	There is one particular gun, an AK rifle that was collected by Romeo from Mrs Mbuyazi, and it too became part of the arms cache that we had.
	We also raided homes, some of which we already knew that they had guns.  We would not arrest those people during the raids; we would simply take the guns so that they could be used by the syndicate.
	We really confiscated several guns, including shotguns.  And the guns that we received later on were the ones that were taken by Romeo and Constable Mthethwa.   And these guns came from J1; two pistols and one AK.  And by so doing the number of guns that we had accumulated.  I brought also one from Maritzburg.  This came from some people that I knew.  But that is not included in my affidavit; that there is a gun that I brought from Maritzburg.  And this became part of the arms cache.  And we ended up having lots and lots of guns.  And we kept these guns in a trunk which was at Romeo's house which we referred to as "12", that is the trunk.  Because "13" is a place where they used to keep exhibits at the police station.  So we referred to Romeo's place as "12".
	And this is how we would communicate, pertaining to the obtaining of fire-arms.  And that is basically how we accumulated these guns.