MR TSHOLANKU
Yes, Mr Chairman with respect, this is what he said - he said the statement of the 8th day of June '96 comes from him but that information is not true because when he made that statement, he did not understand the workings of the TRC, that is why immediately thereafter he went to Laurens Mbatha to tell him about this incident and Laurens said to him he must then tell the truth - that is why he then made a statement under oath, that is how I understand him to be.