UNKNOWN
Mr Chairperson this is not a case where Mr Menera is approaching you to alter a completely wrong conviction.  He says that we set out together with a common purpose to murder certain people and during the course of that conduct a child was stabbed and I am not the person who stabbed the child.  Now Mr Chairperson, if he were to say that he stabbed, take a scenario where he says that in order to get amnesty then he says to you, I stabbed Patrick Maluisane (Phelane?) and I was convicted, I'm sorry give me amnesty, then objective is produced to show that he did not in fact stab Patrick Phelane, but it is Patrick Maluisani who stabbed the child, he will not be able to grant him the amnesty because he has not told you the whole truth about his involvement in the commission of the offence in respect of which he was tried.