RAYNER MARIA MORINGER
I don't quite understand your question.  I did not have business interests in the Transkei, but I was and I have been in South Africa now for 30 years, and I am not 50, I think 57 years old.  I have no intention going back to Europe and this was the same which was already in 1991.  I was interested and call this my political interest, that the transition in South Africa from the old government to the new government, goes as smoothly as possible and that nobody tries to put another spoke in the wheels in the last moment.  This is what, to my opinion at that time, was happening in the Transkei.  This is why I got involved.  The political aspect, I would not limit to Transkei because at that time, I think you were talking already a unified South Africa.