CHAIRPERSON
I think what Mr Kahanovitz is saying is, not what you were aware of, but that were in the public domain, that might be  linked to you?  I mean certainly, I think somebody  must have known about the burning of Mr Roskam's car, even if it was only Mr Roskam, he must have known of it, but maybe there wasn't any, maybe you didn't believe that anybody could link the burning of that vehicle, to yourself, whereas the ELC, you had a feeling, might be able to be linked to you, the Omar and Evans and Tutu?