JOE MAMASELA
I'm not lying, I'm the first man to come out with this truth and your Piet Mogoai came just recently here.  I'm the first man to go in 1995 to the Attorney General and ask them when did they go to the Attorney General.  So what is their motive of coming late to the Attorney General?  Why didn't they come out immediately when I stood up in 1994 and ...[intervention]