MR MALAN
May I just, for my own clarity, summarise this very briefly, Mr Dlamini?  Am I correct in understanding that the first decision was simply to punish him, that two of you hit him with that cane, the fishing rod cane, each gave him 16 lashes and you ordered him then to leave.  He was released.  As he was walking away, Lucky said something to the effect that "What happens if he comes with the Inkatha people for some revenge attack?" and suggested that it would be better that he be killed.  That you then went, apprehended the person and brought him back.  Is this summary correct?