TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  I don't know.  You know, I thought about it, I mean another person - Ric was on the hit list, and there were a couple of names I didn't know.  Fatima Meer was on it, and a guy called Morgan Naidoo, and myself.   But I knew Morgan Naidoo was, he was a swimmer, and he was active in the movement for non-racial swimming competition, you see, and this is the sort of thing which would seriously irritate, you know, the sort of anti-Indian racist in this country, you know, and the fact that he wanted to get into the swimming pool almost naked with all our white ladies, you know, all that sort of Indian stuff would float off, it's the colour of turmeric and stick on all these women, you see, their breasts, and things.   And so that was the level of the racial hatred.   I mean - you know, and I was the only MK person who wasn't still in prison, or overseas, and was walking around at large.   My banning order had lapsed, the - my house arrest had lapsed after 10 years.  The police had their vengeance about that.   And if they had needed more vengeance, the security police, you know, they wouldn't have unbanned me.  So, I think it was some alone