H J P BOTHA
Yes.  During this phone call he told me that an ANC MK terrorist which later appeared to be Charles Ndaba, had been arrested and detained at C R Swart Square.
	Upon my arrival there, I met du Preez and accompanied him to the Security Branch offices where I saw a member of Col Andy Taylor's askari unit, namely Vusi Ninela.  At that stage I was du Preez's commanding officer and Col Taylor was the Commander of the terrorist unit.  Now it needs to be mentioned that at that stage Durban had about 9 askaris to assist me, tracking, identification, arrest and the questioning of terrorists.  In the office a person was sitting on a chair and I immediately recognised him.  Ninela was very excited and told me that he by himself, had arrested this person and he identified him to me as Charles Ndaba, MK Zwelake.  
	It was only much later that I heard that Ninela had not been alone when Ndaba had been arrested, but that Goodwill Sikhakane, he was also an askari, had taken part in that.  I first learned of Goodwill Sikhakane's involvement in the arrest when Adv Ackerman, in December of 1995, warned me that I was a suspect in the death of Goodwill Sikhakane.  I was, however, not involved in the death of Goodwill Sikhakane.
	At C R Swart Square I represented Col Andy Taylor, W/O Wasserman, Maj du Preez and Sers van der Westhuizen, well I met them there.  I took them to a different office and I told them that Charles Ndaba was in fact a registered informer of the Security Branch and that he was being handled by me.  At that stage, it was just myself and Gen Steyn aware of the fact that Ndaba was an informer and that he was in the country.  Col Taylor was upset about the fact that he had not been informed of that and after that he withdrew along with Vusi Ninela.