MAPULE RAMASHALA
Chairperson I want to observe the tragedy in South Africa where some of the doctors - the role they played during the oppression years.  Doctors take their Hippocratic oath to save lives, the role they played during the oppressive years, actually certifying people to ensure that they can withstand torture - this is very unfortunate.
Mr Mthamzeli, we would like you to see a doctor, to confirm that your genital torture has actually caused infertility.  We thank you for being here, and commend your bravery in describing what's happened to you.  Thank you very much.