MR VISSER
Chairperson, I am aware of all of this, I am aware of all of this.  With great respect, I will deal with this when I deal with the evidence of Dr Naidoo.  I will tell you why I am asking this question now, if you refer to Dr Aiyer's report at page 82(a), he says in the middle of the page
"... numerous fractured ribs were also noted."