ELSIE MOKOENA
There is a certain Mr Ndlapo who was present.  I don't know whether he was vice to Hlombani, but I know him to be a senior as well.  When our case ended, he mentioned in the meeting that he was washing his hands just like Pilato did.  He told us that he was not going to get involved at all because we were not, he did not see anything wrong with us.