MR VISSER
May I repeat this on record Mr Chairman?  I have Colonel Erasmus here.  I may just say Mr Chairman, with great respect that perhaps it might be more acceptable to allow Mr Memani time so that we can continue, have some kind of continuity Mr Chairman, we've already got three witnesses standing down for cross-examination, this is the fourth.
	I am afraid if I may suggest it with respect, we are going to get entangled into stuff that is being left.