MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, I am very happy to accept that, but I thought you were going to tell me, but look at the word "ontvoering", and what do you make of that, and that is the reason why I am leading this evidence in the way I am Mr Chairman, I am trying to be of assistance.
	All right, I think let's turn the page, we have dealt with paragraph 3, let's go over to the next page.