MR KAHANOVITZ
If you could just turn over to page 2182, you were asked the following question by Mr Coetzee when he was cross-examining you, in about the middle of the page
"Were you in any way familiar with Mr Barnard during your involvement with the CCB?"
your answer:
"Now, I was never aware of Mr Barnard's existence, I only came to hear of that later."
You see that?