MR HLONGWANE
: We held meetings several times at Banda's place.  His house number was number 13.   We used to call Banda ...(indistinct).   We would hold meetings to discuss the killing of people at Mandini, at his house.   On one occasion, there was a discussion that Mr Ngleco - I have a picture of him in my mind.   I learned that he worked at SAPI.   I knew him and we knew his movements.   At that time Chief Motaba had fetched some boys from ...(indistinct).   Those boys were `AK's and Temba'.   Those were code names and were not their real names.   So AK and Temba were just code names given to these boys.   After the meeting, when I was supposed to go and monitor or investigate his house, I did so and on arrival, I saw a lot of boys coming out of the house and I asked something from them, and in the afternoon I met Chief Motaba and told him that I had met a large group of boys in that house.   I then told Chief Motaba, on the same day, that we would attack on that very same evening.   Chief Motaba came with...