MR VISSER
Mr Chairman, the man has given evidence to what we, I understand to mean, this is what the Security Branch did throughout the years.  I asked that specifically.
	Throughout the years that he worked there.  He said we were told to go out, to harass people and to assault them and I am asking him why is it necessary, and I asked him was this a one off thing in this particular case for which you are applying for amnesty.