MR SHANE
Mr Chairman having put the problem to me I'm going to have to tell you that I am obviously on this, it's not sufficient, and on this, he's going to, I know that I'm not going to get more information out of my client but I might need information from another official, which I will have to get by affidavit.  I'm not going to be able to get it today, I hope I can get it tomorrow, but I would ask you that this matter stand down then until next week, in the circumstances.  That's the best I can do.