MR PRINSLOO
I respectfully submit, Mr Chairman, the applicant indicated that there was a source and the whole incident was arranged via a source and this information was arranged via a source and the evidence indicates that and the evidence of Mr de Kock, the first applicant, confirms that, with respect Mr Chairman.  There's no suggestion that there was no source.  There's no suggestion that the source did not facilitate this.   That is not the case of the family or any other persons Mr Chairman, and I respectfully submit, the applicant Mr Pienaar at this stage, has made a full disclosure.  He said he made use of a source and he even went further, from questioning by my learned colleague Mr Moerane and indicating who that person could be.  In the circumstances, I respectfully submit, Mr Chairman, the only issue here is that the Committee must guard against disclosing the name of that particular person, as this is a very, very - a matter which must be regarded with great circumspection as far as that person's life is concerned.  Will that person not be killed?  She was already arrested by the ANC as you indicated Mr Chairman and that person was already questioned.  What will the other people do, the public at large, when they know who that person is?  That person might be living in this area, might be living elsewhere, we don't know and I respectfully submit, in the interests of that particular person, that name should not be revealed.