MR PHOSA
Moreover, it being something that they had been talking about all along, you would not expect it to shock them, isn't it?  Do you follow the question?  Okay, let me repeat it to save time.  Seeing that they themselves the politicians and you and all others concerned, had already been talking about elimination as a solution, if you had told them being the Eastern Province branch that: "We want to eliminate these two", it would have given them no shock as far as you're concerned, no surprise?