MR WILLS
Now, it seems that the gist of Mr Botha's evidence was his concern of the state of mind of Mr Ndaba at that time.  It seemed as if his state of mind had deteriorated from when he came back from Pretoria on the 13th and advised Ndaba of the fact that there were no prosecutions that were going to take place, that that is when Mr Ndaba began, to use a loose phrase, to fall apart?