MR HATTINGH
Mr Chairman, on the three points.  If I came over the way Mr - the Evidence Leader now responded to it, I indicated that I required certain documentation.  I am absolutely satisfied that the Evidence Leader gave to me whatever he had in his possession.  I am not saying he is keeping anything back.
	What I do say is that apparently the investigation for the purposes of this meeting, was to the extent that very little is made available for this meeting.  The police dockets are not available.
	On Monday we were advised that they were on their way, but in fact they did not arrive and we accept that, that the Evidence Leader is not in a position to make it available and we accept the fact that he has given us everything that he's got.
	But I might just add something else to what the Evidence Leader has now said, I feel very concerned about the fact that the Evidence Leader is now to decide what will be relevant or not for this Committee.  I think without having regard to the document itself, and to see number one, whether it applies with any requirements and number two, whether it is relevant the contents thereof, this Committee cannot just discard it and we cannot just rely on the Evidence Leader's own opinion as to whether it is relevant or not.
	I may think it is relevant, he may think it is not and that for that very reason, we are not going to decide on it.  It is for you Mr Chairman and your Committee, to make that decision and even you can't decide, make that decision without having gone to the documents.
	We don't have to make it public, but you need to have a look at it to make the decision properly, a proper decision whether it should be, whether it is relevant and whether you should make use of it.