CHAIRPERSON
Oh, let me sum you up.  Your evidence is not to us as follows:  This people wanted us to admit that we were UDF, we denied, they assaulted us very badly with iron bars, pliers and all that and because of that we admitted that we're UDF because we were under severe pain.  That is not your evidence?  You evidence is that pain, notwithstanding, you never admitted that you're UDF members?