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Thank you.  Ja.   At that time and it was the time of the state of emergency, Jo Manana was arrested with other activists.  Mr Babele Constance Dlaweyo, Ernest Ndlovo and many others.  One night at that time, it was about eight o'clock, we heard about the death of Jingles.  There was this young man who had just closed his butcher and he asked the man that he went to see him outside.   After we got the message that a white Mazda passed the place three times and this boy who was standing with Jingles, at the same time people passed and they shot Jingles.  The next morning Manana's wife came.  When she arrived at home to tell us about the incidents about Jingles' death she couldn't tell us exactly as who did it.  I, together with my Mom, went to where Jingles was shot and we discovered that they took him to the clinic where he died.  While we were still there in the butchery, Mr Manana's butchery, police came and they asked where Mr Manana was.  Mr Maketsie explained that Mr Manana was arrested the previous day so he wasn't there and they asked who was a member of Jingles' family.  They came in and they found that it was me and Jingles' mother inside the butchery.  Then they asked why were you crying as we were crying.  They said when your children kill police you don't cry but when they kill some of the members you cry and they said it laughing.  It wasn't clear as to who killed Jingles from there.  After that we went to the police station and when we arrived together with Jingles' mother we gave a statement about his death.  They asked us if we don't know exactly who killed him.  It was strange because normally when the police is dead we know that he has been
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killed by comrades.  If I remember well, after that we have to go on with funeral arrangements.   While we were busy doing that it was the time to bury him.  The person who had to conduct the funeral service was one guy called Malusi.  They arrived and they took the deceased's body and we thought they would be bringing the body somewhere at four o'clock in the afternoon.  Unfortunately only Reverend Malusi came back, they said they took the body to conduct some investigations.  I was afraid because I don't know how you can communicate with a dead person.  From there we could clearly see that they knew something about the death of Jingles.  So we didn't know what to do, we started calling Chris Naidoo and he himself called Priscilla Jana and Priscilla Jana called the police station so that they can give us the body so that we can go on with arrangements for the funeral.  They said the person who is working with the bodies is out of work and they can come the next day.  So we went to Khotso house the next day and we went to Priscilla Jana together with Jingles' mother.  When we arrived at Priscilla Jana we were told that they have taken the body back and we started making some funeral arrangements again and some comrades was angry because so many things had been destroyed because we made preparations before and nothing happened and in the second week they did the same thing, they came and collected the body.  They didn't care as to what they were doing.  While we were sitting in the house police arrived.  Those were known to the community and they used to be known as people who were harassing the Jingles' family.  They arrived at 19th Avenue, we were together with Jingles' sister and they wanted to find out where was Jingles' wife and I could see that they were looking for a
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person whom they don't know and they said to us if you see  this person tell the person that we are looking for him and tell him that we are going to find him, we are going to shoot him.  After that then the week for the funeral arrived.  During the night vigil there were police, they tear-gassed the people, children, elderly people and women.  What was more painful was that on the day of the funeral it wasn't going well at all.  Even the reverend from Roman church when the time come for us to leave the cortege, to leave the house, some comrades and the white people started to clash.  The comrades wanted to take the cortege out of the house in their own manner.  However, the police didn't want them to do it that way so they took the corpse out of the peoples' hands and threw it into a hearse.  (Witness upset).  They stopped all the people, preventing them from going to the graveyard so it was only myself, Jingles' sister and Jingles' mother and the hearse was driven by police.  Behind us there were only private cars and Hippos.  However, I am proud of him because his enemies buried him because they thought they were conflicting pain on the community, however they were the ones who had to bury him because they had to do the work themselves.  When we arrived at the graveyard the time came for the reverend, all the people were not in the graveyard and I asked Patience as to how she was feeling at the time especially as a black person where we have to bury our family member in the absence of people.  And one of the policemen overheard us and asked us exactly and he said why doesn't she tell me that she doesn't care about baboons who come around and shouts in the graveyards.  We, together with Jingles' sister, we just looked at each other and we could see they
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didn't know what they were doing.  And there was one man who was passing by the road and they called him and asked him do you know how to pray and he said yes whatever we warned this man say don't take a chance and make a prayer in this funeral.    However, then we continued.  They took his body and just threw it like any rubbish and they put the soil over the body.  Everything, whatever was there.  This is something that I will never forget, especially our child, the child that I had with Jingles.  I wonder if I will ever forgive the white people.  I would also like the Commission to remind me if there is anything I have left out.