ADV LOURENS
I would ask the Committee not to read or interpret my analogy to that extent.  If, I used the analogy to merely to illustrate what their explanation as to what they did do with the stuff that they say that they took.  I have alluded to this and I would stress that the Committee is dealing here with youths, one could say, with a cause.  They were on a mission inspired by Mr Tambo in exile, that that message is a violent message, that they themselves were subjected to violence.  They came from a community endemic with violence at that stage perpetrated against, a basically, defenceless community.  With regard to applicant number one, Maxam, he gives his explanation.  It is his subjective belief that I would ask the Committee to have regard to.
	Who would understand, possibly, the fear and panic of later incarceration, of the possibility of being forced to, to betray ones Comrades.  It is clear that he, at that stage and on his evidence, did not or feared being caught.