CHAIRPERSON
Yes, Mr Hendrickse, just to take it further from what Adv Mpshe has put up.  If one takes a look at Section 11b of the application form, the applicant describes his actions, 'as being done while acting in my official capacity as a member of the Bop Police'.  I think that in the light of this, perhaps what Adv Mpshe and Adv Motata have said there should perhaps be more substantial reasons for the application and perhaps that can be done at a later stage in the hearing.  Give you some time to do it.  I don't think we need delay the start of the matter.  We'll proceed with the matter on the application as it is and then if you wish to make this application at a later stage, then that can be considered then but I don't think that should delay the matter now.  And in any event, it is not going to affect the hearing really because the question from what I have gathered from Mr van der Berg and Mr Terreblanche will be put on issue whether he was acting as a supporter of the ANC as opposed to his capacity as a policeman.