CHAIRPERSON
(Indistinct) to hear this witness, we will make a, I have come to the conclusion, from the little bit I've heard, that Mrs Derby-Lewis should then be allowed to be present, as a result of what I have heard.   	The committee will now adjourn and make its decision known immediately after the lunch interval.
	Mr Visser, the committee will adjourn to consider your application.   We will resume at two o'clock and we will then notify you what our decision is.