ABRAM VAN ZYL
Correct.  And also based on my own reconnaissance.  Before we activated the bomb, the people left the hall, there were people that were identified to me by Gakkie, they got into their vehicles, they drove off and the bomb was activated, there were no vehicles parked in the parking area.
	On the basis of what Gakkie told me and on my own reconnaissance, I was satisfied that no one was in the hall.