TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Absolutely.  They always call it the sweeper.  In the Harms and McNally Commission it was very clearly General Krappies Engelbrecht, who was incorporated onto the Commission - in fact after the week and a half of evidence at the McNally Commission Paul van Dyk came to my house and told me that they have all testified that Almond is lying, that the Commission is starting to believe it, and if myself and the man up top - now they were referring to Vendaland, where David Tshikalanga lived - if we would now just also deny it will all be over, that'll be it.  And the man that informed them of it was Engelbrecht, Krappies Engelbrecht kept them informed.  Krappies Engelbrecht then went on with Brigadier Herman du Plessis - at the time of the Sizwe Khondile murder he was Captain du Plessis.  He was as a sergeant I think also involved in the Biko murder, Sergeant du Plessis.  The two of them, together with General Ronnie van der Westhuizen, came with the Harms Commission to London as the chief investigators of the Harms Commission.  So obviously there with the specific purpose to see where things are going to, and then to see to it that it does not get out, and it gets covered up.