BONGANI FINCA
[Indistinct]  officers of the Ciskei Defence Force and as I said Your Grace at the beginning of our today's hearing that Colonel Dirk van der Bank has not been able to come.  We are most pleased to welcome and to introduce to you the then Chief of the CDF,  Major General Marius Oelschig, the then chief of staff of operations, Colonel Horst Schobesberger.