JEAN DU PLESSIS
Yes, Mr Chairperson. Also from my grandmother I was given a great deal of information about our history.  My grandmother also told me a great deal about what had happened in the then Rhodesia, with pamphlets, with photographs, photographs of people who had been murdered by the terrorists in Rhodesia.  These things of course had a great effect on me.  I also often discussed the situation in our country with her, the war in South West Africa and Angola. And increasingly began to feel emotional about our country and our country's security.