ADV TEE
If one has regard, Mr Chair, to the gates that exist.  The first gate is at the entrance to the building proper, the second gate is at the top of the steps and the third gate is at the exit of the car park where the policemen are.  He was talking about the middle gate at the steps.  If one paces it off, divides it by two, it is approximately 32 metres.  Mr Black and I are in agreement with that distance.