MOSES VUYANI MAMANI
No, the first person to shoot as far as I can remember was Monabise.  When the police were trying to overtake Muntsu was trying to turn to the right but the police tried to overtake on the left hand side and block the car and they came straight to Monabise's side and he started firing and he shouted that the driver should stop the car and then the car stopped.  We alighted and we were shooting going towards the van.  Before I could alight from the vehicle I realised that the van was no longer on the road, it was on the other side of the pavement and it looked like there was a stone on the other side, a big stone.  The car was not straight, the police van was not straight because of this stone that was underneath.  I noticed that and I got out of the car and I started firing.  I opened the door of the car and I took this 9 mm parabellum, the one that was from the policemen and I took that ...(intervention)