MR DREYER
As it pleases the Court.  Mr Kloppers, you were asked what was the instruction.  If I can just get my notes in front of me, I would like to read to you what you said.
	You started to say that with the 1993 meeting in the Assembly Hotel in Pretoria, Oelofse told you that the meeting took place.  You were just there for security reasons, you did not participate in this meeting, it was only for top structure members.  Is that correct?