MR MOHLABA
Thank you Chair.  Yes, I was still saying that he mentioned that he did not get orders from Skananda, he met him in prison and he said I am prepared to take responsibility for that.
	Madam Chair, it would have been very easy if the applicant wanted to create a particular impression that orders were given to him by Skananda to come and say that in fact, yes, Skananda gave me these orders.  I have interacted with him before, but he does not come and tell that and I will say that that should come as a compliment on his part, that it only suggests that he tells the truth.  He does not go beyond the truth.