MR RUDOLPH
Thank you Mr Chairperson.  Chairperson, after we were found guilty in the magistrate's court in Potchefstroom, as was the case in courts, we were given the opportunity to give evidence in mitigation.  I then used that opportunity.  I am just quickly going to briefly mention a few things from that evidence in mitigation in my plea.
	I told the magistrate who was responsible for the hearing that in this case the police action played a very important role to the extent that you should also give a verdict on that.  We gave our reasons for these in public and you also found it necessary not to emphasise what happened at the police station.  It was the afternoon at Ventersdorp prior to the meeting during which we tried to get the police to arrange for the charges.  If the, during the, if you were present at that meeting that afternoon - may I read a little faster now?  I do not hear the interpreter.