MR MCHUNU
You can go ahead.
MR GWAMANDA
"That's when Elijah Mhlaba told me he was working hand-in-hand with the AWB and he pleaded with me and said I should agree that I'm an IFP member so that we can be colleagues or work hand-in-hand in prison.  I agreed to that as he was pleading with me.
	He pleaded for a long time with me and I did not know then as to what to do because I was elected as a chairman in prison, elected by other inmates.  I was leading the entertainment part.  He told me that there were leaders in prison or authorities in prison who were also AWB members and who were working with AWB.  He said he will take me with and introduce me to them.
	Indeed he took me to them and showed me Sergeant Venter.  There he is, Lieutenant Venter, there he is.  Sergeant Venter took me and told me that we should go and identify targets outside the prison at the shooting range to plug those papers in preparation of practising in the shooting range".