JOHANNES JACOBUS VIKTOR
Well it all depends you know, when you say Mr Chairperson I don't want to get into legal arguments, I am not a legal man I am a policeman, if you say killed you know it looks like you've murdered the person.  When a policeman uses his firearm, in those days and I think it's still the same, then there is a full investigation about that shooting, everything is then submitted to a magistrate and then you can have a formal or informal investigation.  Informal means that affidavits are being submitted.  Formal then the person or the witnesses must all give evidence.  I must say especially  ...(tape ends)