MR VISSER
Yes, indeed, that is correct.  Those are the facts.  He committed suicide, because of this incident, I am told.  He committed suicide, yes.  There was a claim, a civil claim by Mr Matthew Mzuzwana which was brought in the Bloemfontein Supreme Court, as it was at the time, and on the merits of the matter Judge van Koller found in favour of Matthew, that he was entitled to damages.  You want to make any comment on that?