SISI KHAMPEPE
That's not what you said, this is what Judge Wilson is saying - that's not what you said in your evidence in chief.  I asked you the kind of ammunition you obtained and you were also very explicit in that regard but you stated that you went there to obtain ammunition and by the way that's also what Mr Gumbi said to us earlier on.  You had to go in and obtain further ammunition after you had run out of ammunition.  It wasn't a by the way thing ...(intervention)