PUMELELE CIVILIAN HERMANS
First of all, we had hearsay information that Costello was associated with whites in Mbande.  What we were to check was whether the whites were in that coastal area in Mbande, there were no other whites in other coastal areas.
	If we found concrete evidence or if we found out that they were associated with Costello who was a member of the AWB, for example, when we were told that they went to Mdakeni, that surprised us because we thought that why would they go to Mdakeni to fish, why didn't they fish in Mbande, where they were staying and they were in that area, Mbande, the area that we heard this information about.
	The area Mdakeni, we also heard information about that area.  Those things were not concrete evidence, but our suspicions, they raised our suspicions.