MR WILLS
Now my understanding is, and fortunately this isn't from personal experience, my understanding is that as a Security Branch routine procedure, is that if you have an informer, you keep that informer and you use him to corroborate the information you get from other suspects, so for example if, let's take the position with Mr Gordhan, you've arrested him on the 12th, my instructions are at about 10 in the morning, you question him and you get certain information and then you will go to your informer Ndaba and you will say "Gordhan says this, what have you got to say about that?"  Is that not true?