ANDRIES STEPHANUS KRIEL
Chairperson, it doesn't help that I'm sitting here - look, we went, it was a war, there was a war for freedom, people could have died.  You know Mr Chairperson, you can ask a question: I did not want to do this or I did not want to do that.  You know how it is with these types of hearings and I don't want to commit myself to this.  The fact of the matter is we planted bombs, we committed acts of terror and not to sit here today and say we did not want to kill people, it's not entirely true.  It is with regard to the truth here, Mr Chairperson.
	If you would grant me, we requested many detainees and with Doctor Piet Meyer and Doctor - I've forgotten his name now, we tried very hard to work on a programme of reconciliation but I am bitter because the TRC did not participate in this party although the soldiers in prison made their peace but the politicians outside did not make peace because the soldiers are being prosecuted in prison today and politicians like Viljoen sit comfortably in government now and that is my problem.  But I do not want to hide behind the, we did these things and it is here and we have to talk about it.  	I think very little has been done in terms of  reconciliation in this country.