MR HUGO
Mr Chairman,  if you can give me a minute just to get 
instructions on this point.  Mr Nieuwoudt, I put it to you that Mr De 
Kock will say that at that time in the morning, bearing in mind the 
traffic at that stage, it would take about ten to twelve minutes to go 
from General Van Rensburg's premises to the technical division?  
Can you comment on that?