MR PHOSA
But I've done exactly that Mr Chairman, I said: "That led me to understand that, is that correct".  Who else must I ask, I can't ask the Chairperson, I can't ask Mr Visser, he must answer the question and I put the question - I repeat: "Is that my correct interpretation", I have never heard that I can't say that.  I've given a fair background of what I've written - my interpretation and I'm asking is that fair?  I'm not coming with it from - sucking it from nowhere.