MR MAPOMA
Oh yes, I agree.  I agree, sir.  That is also transpiring in the judgment.  One other area of concern, Mr Chair, is the fact that if it is a situation where there was a conflict between these two political organisations, hence a retaliation by the applicant, hence the murder of the deceased, why the deceased only?  Why the deceased only, Chairperson, particularly against the background that the deceased is the person who was to blame for the murder of the applicant's family?  And it may be recalled, if it would be recalled, Chairperson, that the applicant has laid a background to the effect that there was a conflict and there was a plan to retaliate to the extent that a day before a unit went in search of the ANC so-called gangsters, I mean the ring leaders so to speak.  That was on the 15th.  There was a day in between, there seems to be nothing that was happening.
	Now come day number three, the applicant alone meets the two ring leaders with the ANC and kills the deceased only and not the other one.  And it doesn't seem that there's any evidence to the effect that the unit carried out the retaliation further after this incident.  Chairperson, you will remember this particular question was put to the applicant as to whether after the ... (intervention)