CHAIRPERSON
I see, alright thank you.  I don't know if anybody would like to put questions, in fact I was asking this question within the context of the indictment, in particular the summary of material facts or substantial facts because there is a name which appears, Willie Edward Ndebele, Sam and then (Atasios Mphoreng) and ordinarily one - if there's some confusion here because if one had to apply the rules of grammar superficially one might think that Atasios Mphoreng means Sam but if you apply the rules of grammar strictly, if that were to be the case there would have been no comma after Sam so for that reason I thought that this witness should come back and if there is anybody wanting to ask him questions in that regard.  Mr Brink?