MR MEYER
Mr Chairman, I'm not quite sure if that was the gist of the evidence.  They might have denied that the victims required medical attention but, the fact remains that I think during the evidence-in-chief mostly, they readily conceded that the assaults and the tortures were very serious.  And not only with regard to Mr Chikororo but, also with regard to other victims which they said but the people were severely beaten or the assaults took place over a lengthy period of time in which they had to do frog jumps and stand on their heads and they received electric shock treatment over a period of time.
	So, I don't think it's a question of trying to or not making full disclosure with regard to the seriousness of the assaults.  If they deny that the victims did require medical attention, it's my submission that that doesn't mean that the acts which they committed were - or that they tried to down play the seriousness of those acts.
	Can I continue?  Thank you, Mr Chairman.  Before I move on to the political objective is there anything else which the Panel specifically requires me to address you on with regard to full disclosure?