MR VISSER
All right, well, then just through you to inform the Committee, you don't necessarily have to reply to this, I can tell you that from the evidence and what was put there, Mr Radebe was also here during that period of time, the 10th to the 27th of February.  As I say, if you cannot remember, I am just informing the Committee through you.   Mr Baker, you heard the evidence of the other applicants, Botha, Wasserman, du Preez and van der Westhuizen, is that correct?