MR ZILWA
Now you were asked about the position of the ANC that hither to, up to that time, the position of the ANC was that it was against violence.  Now would you say when that incident of the killing of Hani occurred, would you say it was just - the situation was normal and as such the - everything that was happening hither to, you expected no need to do anything that would be ...[indistinct] in order to fit the event?