H J P BOTHA
As a result of his high profile which he had in the MK structures, it would be advantageous for their research to also get certain background information from him.  However, I want to make it clear that at no stage did they have any knowledge of any unlawfulness which had been committed by members of the Durban Security Branch or any unlawful acts which would have been committed relating to either Ndaba or Shabalala and the members of C 20 to whom I'm referring, were W/O van der Berg, Lt Frank McCarter, M-C-C-A-R-T-E-R.