ROBERT JOHN MCBRIDE
The other person was Matthew Lecordier, who is one of the co-applicants, who was also under the impression I would leave the car for comrades to pick it up later.  He was only told of the operation as we entered into town.  I don't even remember if I told him specifically of the operation, but I did indicate to him as we came off the southern freeway, I see it is changed now, we hit a bump, there was a bump as you came down, and stopped just before you enter Durban and I indicated to him that there was 60 kilograms of explosives in the boot.  Even at that stage, I don't think I told him what the operation was.