JUDGE MGOEPE
A great deal of reference has been made since
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this morning to the struggle about the - the struggle around, shall I say the position of occupation or control, in fact, of this building.  Before I come to that, for purposes of the record, by the way, by this building, we mean the - this building is the Baphokeng civic centre.  Am I right?  Is somebody interpreting for you or ...