CHAIRPERSON
We want your evidence Mr Phumayo, we don't want to find ourselves being extricated to the evidence that was led at the criminal trial, just stick to what you personally know and are aware of.
	I would have actually commented that knowing Davel, it is a relatively small area.  I don't know that you are aware of how small Davel is, Mr Claassen.  I had an occasion of attending to one matter, it is not far from Ermelo, is it not?