MR HOLE
Thank you, Commissioner. There is this reference to an impending attack which they obtained and he says
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"The Elite Unit had information that there was going to be this attack."
	And if one looks at the evidence of Mr Thompson and Mr Thoba, especially the annexures that are given by them,  Mr Chairman I am referring to the annexure, relating to the case of Gen Genda, Col Genda, where detailed evidence was given by a W/O Magaoli of the Elite Unit who had infiltrated the Illisolomzi.  Who gave information and testified in court about the plans that Illisolomzi had about toppling the Ciskeian government.   He gives a graphic picture of the infiltration of the presidential guard and the capturing of the President, taking him to Radio 
Ciskei where he would be forced to make a statement in terms of which he will be standing down.
	There is also reference to the President, being killed in the event of him refusing to step down.   I think one should look at that picture against unsophisticated police who had very little evidence and who had three victims from which they had to get as much as possible.
	If one looks as the affidavits of all of them they say pressure was being put on them to find the President's son alive.
If one looks at this broad picture one can see clearly that the act which these people were committing was directed at a political opponent and not just against private individuals.   These were private individuals but they were linked to these organisations in the forms that I have just described.
	Then, Mr Chairman, to proceed and look at whether the act, or mission, or offence was committed in the execution of an order or on behalf, or with the approval of the organisation or institution, liberation movement or body of which these people 
were part.   I think my remarks that I have just mentioned apply the same here.
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	This was an attack more on the institution of Illisolomzi and its supporters than it was an attack on the individuals themselves.   Brutality of an extreme kind was meted out to these people, but this was not just blind violence, this was violence meant to extend extreme terror to anybody who might want to join this organisation.