GERRIT NICHOLAS ERASMUS
Mr Mthimkhulu's role was that of a leader figure in COSAS, he was a leading figure in COSAS and I've already sketched what this role - this COSAS role was.  Mr Madaka was in an ANC cell along with Mr Mthimkhulu, they were taken up into this ANC cell.
	Mthimkhulu, according to the information which I received, played the more open role, in other words working towards the mobilisation of the people and working towards making the youth politically aware etc., distributing pamphlets, that sort of thing - ANC pamphlets, inflammatory pamphlets.  He was assisted by Mr Madaka.  
	Both these gentlemen, according to my information, also recruited students and scholars for military training abroad.  Mr Madaka possessed a car and he also acted as a courier and there was also some information that he transported weapons between Lesotho and this division or section.  
	Mr Madaka  was also responsible for the establishment of DLB's and that was the dead letter box or a place where these weapons could be stored - concealed  is perhaps a better word.