MR SARDIWALLA
Can I deal with it?  Thank you.  I think we must accept that there's very little evidence, if not nothing at all, to suggest that he specifically in concert with others, had taken a decision to attack the vehicle to kill children, innocent children or any person other than Makeke.  That was the intention.  It wasn't a discussion that had taken place or an individual decision that was taken by him, it was discussed at a gathering, rightfully or wrongfully and it was generally agreed amongst all that were present that he normally goes in this cream-white vehicle and that one must ambush that vehicle, that was decided.  It wasn't him singly that decided that, the organised group decided that.  We're not talking about a situation where one stands on the top of a building in a sophisticated manner with professional training as a hit man, and knocks an individual down.  You're talking about bush war.  I think one must understand that.  These attacks are not sophisticated in their planning,  sophisticated in their implementation.  He did what he was trained to do and that is to find the target and annihilate that target.  That is the training that they received and he did precisely that.