TESTIMONY_GIVER:
 No, Sir.  I would have told you if I was there.  I would have said to you today.  I would have said I was there.  I find it more difficult to explain this whole incident with my not being there.  It would have been far easier for me to say, "Yes, I was there and this is why it happened."  I find it very difficult, and I would never ever try and sabotage my chances or any possibility of getting a second chance in life just for that little, little factor.