STEPHANS METLE DYASI
As far as I am concerned, Mr Luff, I don't think Mr Luff is telling the truth.  If he is afraid of God or if he wants to ask for an apology or be granted amnesty, I think he must speak the whole truth, because as far as I am concerned, I could see my son, he couldn't stand up and I don't even know why, I am not sure if Mr Luff is telling the truth as a senior person at the time.  How could my son escape in that physical condition as he was, he even had pellets that were coming through the mouth, how could he escape from a person as big as he is, that is what I am saying?  He must tell the truth.  I don't think he is telling the truth in front of this Committee, before this committee.