MR MADASA
Yes Mr Chair.  That is in the killing per se.  They are Michael Sonti, Solly Mashinini, Michael Sonti is Applicant No. 5.  Solly Mashinini, Applicant No. 9, Bennet Ndabe Applicant No. 13, Themba Mtshali Applicant No. 14.  Also that - all the Applicants during the killing and/or commission of offences or acts associated with the killing were armed with various sorts of weapons which differed from person to person.  Further that the parties are in disagreement as to the following
1.	Whether the acts or offences committed by the 	Applicants were acts or Offences associated with a 	political objective in terms of the Act.
	2.	Whether the Applicants in respect of the various 	Applications made full disclosure in respect of particular 	acts or offences they claim to	have committed.
	Lastly, whether the deceased persons, one Bulelewa Zwane who is deceased No. 1 on the list of deceased on Page 2 of the bundle and Julia Buthelezi, deceased No. 3 on the list were amongst the victims or the people that were killed at the site.
	Sorry Mr Chair, there is something that I want to clarify with my learned friend.  Sorry Mr Chair I want to make one correction.  My last item.  The submission should be, who are in disagreement whether the deceased persons Bulelwa Zwane and Julia Buthelezi were amongst the people who were killed by the Applicants.  In other words I delete the site.  That is all Mr Chair.