EUGENE DE KOCK
No, it appeared that way.  It sounded that way because his precise phrase was and I can recall it specifically for that reason, it was whether I couldn't help him the way I had helped Willie Nortjie.  However, he wanted cash and  I told him that there wasn't anything such a cash and that he could take the house, which he did.  I could find myself in the problematic position that it would scarcely have been possible for me to help one person and not another, ultimately I ended up helping everybody at Vlakplaas and I will give explanation later on as to the various reasons for this.