ANDRIES STEPHANUS KRIEL
Chairperson, I would like to answer you honestly.  We expected a take-over from the black people in this country and we were scared of that.
	We had definitely fears of the black people, we also saw it against a black/white background, because we were brought up in such a manner.  We grew up under the apartheid dispensation, we were brought up like this in our schools, in our houses and we ascribed this to a black/white relationship, that if the black people take over the country, they then would murder all the whites and there would be a massive witch hunt on us.
	Unfortunately that was our conviction at that time.