NICHOLAS JACOBUS JANSE VAN RENSBURG
It is so, yes, but Mr Chairman the normal practice was that if the Free State had arrested such a person they would interrogate him first of all to establish what information he had about the Free State.  And if he could tell them anything about the Free State and said I have intelligence about the Eastern Cape then they would notify us.  And then we would be anxious to discuss things with this person.  But the people who arrested him initially in my whole career in the police it was like that that they would first establish whether he had information regarding their area.  That was number one priority and then they would investigate other areas.
	I want to expand on that.  If they find that this person can't tell us anything more, he has more intelligence for the Eastern Cape that would have been the correct procedure to transfer him to the Eastern Cape.