CHAIRPERSON
No Ms Thabethe.  Put your question in such a way that you are in a position to cover both.  You will recall that this Mr Radebe has given a version which is different to that which appears in his affidavit.  In his viva voce testimony he obtained a gun which had ammunition from a comrade who was part of a group of persons that accompanied them from Samuel Neti's house to where the deceased was shot.  In his affidavit he says he obtained ammunition from Sipapo's place, and he goes further to mention the number of bullets that were obtained from Sipapo's place.