ADV DU PLESSIS
Thank you.  Mr Chairman it is true that we requested a meeting with Captain van 
Jaarsveld because he is a State witness, we cannot really speak to him.  We requested a meeting this 
morning purely to obtain information which might be relevant in respect of General van der Merwe's 
evidence.  During the discussion certain information was divulged to us which we deemed of grave 
importance for the applicants and on that basis we requested Dr Pretorius, at that stage this morning, if the 
Attorney General would not be prepared to allow Captain van Jaarsveld to come and testify.
	Clearly we were aware of your decision previously and that was not something that we wanted to 
consider previously.  We were also not informed of the extent of
Captain van Jaarsveld's knowledge until we spoke to him this morning.
	We did take steps last year to obtain other witnesses and it is not a question of only becoming 
aware of certain people who were involved this morning.  In any event as I can recall Captain van Jaarsveld 
gave us an indication that whoever was named this morning, would not in all probability be prepared to 
assist us.
	In respect of the evidence that Captain van Jaarsveld will give evidence in his own amnesty 
application, he would be in the same position as General van der Merwe, he is also going to give evidence 
in his own amnesty application and we cannot see that one should wait for that amnesty application 
PRETORIA HEARING	AMNESTY/