CHAIRPERSON
I think what Mr De Jager's pointing out to you is that we're going to have serious difficulty relying on this document.  I'm not going to tell whether you must supplement these affidavits or not, that is for you to decide.  You're representing these Applicants.  I think he's being fair to you when he points out to you that there are difficulties that we experience with these documents.  Anyway (intervenes).