MR NTEBEZA
(Inaudible) ... these proceedings you put in proper perspective what they are all about, that these hearings are for victims, and for that very reason we have heard painful stories of killings.  The story you are going to hear now is the story of personal suffering by Mr Cele, and perhaps it is historic for that reason, and historic also for the reason that this is the first time that these hearings are held in this region.  And it is also historic, Sir, that on this very day in The Hague the whole world's attention is drawn to proceedings of another kind, where one Tusan Tadic, a Bosnian Serb, is facing the War Crimes Tribunal.  But then that's a tribunal of a different type.  But it's for the first time since the Nuremberg Trials that the world will be hearing evidence of war time atrocities against ordinary people.  But the one similarity between what is happening in that tribunal and your Commission is that both of The Hague's War Crimes Tribunal and your Commission, we are hearing heart-rending incidents and stories and accounts of man's inhumanity to man.  We are hearing heart-rending stories of arrests, tensions, tortures, murders, rape, and many, many more tales of pain and suffering.  The story of Mandla Cele, the young man who is now before you, is one other such story.  Mandla, we are now going to speak in Xhosa.  I hope you understand me.  I am going to ask you to tell us who you are.  