MR HATTINGH
Thank you, Mr Chairman, the idea was not to commence argument at this stage.  If it appeared to be the position, that was not my intention.
	Mr Bellingan, what I want to gain from you at this stage is merely the facts, no argument as such.  I just want you to read on page 4, from the top until the next heading concerning Mr Bellingan's, of Mrs Bellingan's letter to the TRC.  Just read through the four paragraphs, yourself, on your own, just read through it.  Now I don't want to lead you, but I wanted to know from you - now perhaps I went too quickly over this, the remark, the last sentence in paragraph 2:
"The further details could be read in the amnesty application"
In the context of this section of the report from Mr Kjellberg, could you just explain that to us?