TESTIMONY_GIVER:
 In 1993 I went to a lawyer, Mr Thabata. I was not welcome. I went back again in June this year and I found two ladies.  The lawyer was not there.  These women said you are too late, the Gqozo era is over, you are just walking around aimlessly.  I got out of there weeping.  I have no help, I did not receive any help.  I went to Mdantsane, I've forgotten who I found there but her surname was Martha.  She said that she was at the offices in Mdantsane.  She said to me your name is not here but the other people got special pensions but I know that your name was not there.  I told them that I did not get a penny.