MR CLAASSEN
I think that absolutely summarises what I intended.  I mean, when the judicial system failed them or could not accommodate them further, then decided that now let's tell all and hopefully we'll have mor success with the Amnesty Committee.
	Mr Chair, and it would be, it would be my submission that be that as it may, and I mean it's not to be contested that they did lie, they did conspire, I believe they, and I think it was viva voce evidence on questions, the answer to several questions, they said that, we did lie, we had not been truthful, but today, today we are truthful and what we telling today are in fact the truth.
	Mr Chair I can do no more than ask of this Committee to accept the position that they were in, insofar as their explanation for the technical shortcomings may be, there was no explanation offered for the fact that they admitted to lying and then saying that they, that they told the truth today.  But it would be my humble submission that what they came and testified before this Commission was indeed the truth of what actually occurred this day.