PIETER JOHANN VERSTER
Chairperson, there was  a more or less standing rule that said that we might meet on Mondays or Wednesdays, those who could meet and then we kept the groups apart.  It also happened for example that one meets with the one group at one premises, those who could see each other and if there were people who did not know who worked with us, then we would - one would meet with another group at another place, or one would go to these people's offices.