MS VAN DER WALT
I believe that Mr Hattingh would go into this regarding his cases.  Perhaps then we would be able to determine this, but at this point, during my examination, he could not answer these questions, because he simply came back and said I was a soldier.  That was the easiest answer which he could provide.  Thank you.
	Very well sir, I would like to take you to the events as Mr Msibi's liquor store.  You testified yesterday that Mr Hlaza went along, is that correct?