SERAME MOLEFE
Yes, he was there to be an interpreter apparently but I was doing the interpretation for myself.  He was sitting by and looking at me, you know, all the time.  Even when this very Landman, on the 28th, on the morning of the 28th, there was again Landman who came to knock my head repeatedly, three times I think, against the wall.  Kopi was there, Morakile was there.