MR MALAN
I'm not sure that I get a picture, because when I asked you the question the first time round, you referred to an occasion where Ms Mbethe's children holidayed with your for a period of 10 days.  Do you remember that as an occasion?  How regularly?  This is really my question, how regularly were they staying over, kids staying over?  Was that every night, four, five, six nights a week?