MR VISSER
You see now Commissioner de Jager put these questions to you and what we would like to ask you is this, when did you manage, since 1986 to do all the things that this lady Mrs Sarkardi says in her letter, if you didn't frequently visit or stay with Mr Venter?   Do you understand the question?  You've had to have been there frequently to do the things which Mrs Sarkardi talks about in her letter, isn't that so?