CHAIRPERSON
I think what Mr Claassen is getting at, correct me if I'm wrong Mr Claassen, is, we've heard evidence that there were some shacks that were in a dangerous situation.  They were under the wires, or they were too close to the river, and there was then dealings with the Randburg Municipality or Randburg authorities, which ultimately resulted in new land being designated for the relocation of those dangerous shacks, if I could call them that, to be replaced elsewhere.
	Now, the negotiations that took place between the Zevenfontein community and those Randburg authorities relating to that new piece of land, was, the question asked by Mr Claassen, was that, were those negotiations carried out by this civic that, this non-partisan civic association or organisation?