ELLIOT MICHAEL PAMA
Next to me was ...[inaudible] Mankumba who was a security guard there, next to him Sergeant Mkizwayo and then Sergeant Klokozile next to him and then over there another security guard.  That's where we were still looking at these four people looking up, thinking that they were students because they looked like students.  We did not know, we could not determine who may not be a student, that this one may be a student or whatever.  They got near...[intervention]