POLINA NOLESE MBALULA
No, I do not know them, it was the first time I saw them.  They were ill-treating us, they had guns.  They
CRADOCK HEARING TRC/EASTERN CAPE
6 PN MBALULA
were drinking alcohol, swearing at us.  There was a short one with alcohol, he is from Middelburg.
 I don't know whether there were any policemen from Venterstad.