CHAIRPERSON
As I understood the evidence and please correct me if I'm wrong, Mr Phosa is trying to direct it all to the Black community but as I understood the evidence of Mr Erasmus and yourself, that there were enormous pressures on the police in Port Elizabeth arising from the Steve Biko incident which had raised condemnation throughout the world and you very conscious and that you couldn't - when I say you, the Port Elizabeth police could not afford another scandal, is that not the position?