W RIAAN BELLINGAN
Mr Chairman, together with Ms, with Liebenberg I gave them the necessary instructions.  I told them this is what they had to do in the Western Cape, here were certain addresses. Our primary purposes was, purpose was tracing the so-called liberation fighters.  He, they had to identify them, to establish their network, it was not something which could be done in a short time.  I told them to gather information, we compiled reports, I kept copies of these reports.  Our task was to gather information.  These two people had possession of AK47's or one AK47 and a Tokarev and they had a covert vehicle.  That was a way of living out a legend.
	You cannot live a legend amongst the liberation fighters and if they ask, could I also use this weapon, you could say, no, you cannot, because my group leader has said so, you should also allow him to shoot at targets, but the instruction was clear, do not leave these weapons out of your sight, even if you sleep on them, do not do something which can get you into trouble later on.  
	One evening I told them, I mentioned it in the Section 29, to develop a legend, for example, one evening three or four of them in the Kombi, to live out your legend, when you see a police Caspar, the Riot Squad at that time was very stressed at that time, shoot at the Caspar, just shoot a few shots so that the liberation fighters who were with you could see and believe in your legend and that you were serious about things.  This happened and they got stuck in the sand.  The police confiscated the Kombi, I and Liebenberg later took this Kombi from the store, although Liebenberg said he cannot remember that, and then we had to develop a different legend.
	We found an AK47 magazine in that Kombi and they thought that there were terrorists in that Kombi.  That was my instruction, do not do anything without clearing it out with me.  Should you do something wrong, come and tell me so that I can manage that, because these instructions were not a free for all, they were reasonable.  Do not just shoot randomly or burn houses.  It was not like that.