FERDINAND BARNARD
Righ Verster and I shared an interest in sports, we also shared various other interests, we did the same work, we had been in prison together, we had suffered together, we had exercised together in the past, so there was a special bond between us which was separate from the DCC activities.  We were social with each other.
	At the same time of my involvement with DCC and the brothels and the porn palaces and the escort agencies and the night club life that I led, I also established private systems by which I was the head of security of eight or nine night clubs, brothels and perhaps five or six casino's as well.  I placed the bouncers there, I visited the places daily, I addressed security problems, conducted sensitive investigations, I paid off the police who had to be paid off to prevent police raids.  I identified the crooked cops, I gave them their monthly pay.  I contacted members of the City Council who might want to close these places down, therefore I was involved there on a daily and nightly basis.
	The specific incident took place, I was already involved with cocaine at that stage, I and some of the prostitutes at one of the upmarket brothels in Morningside, Sandton, I already had shares in the business, 20 percent shares, I had established an office for myself there, I did my own thing from that point.   	Mr Verster was invited by me there, for the first time and a whole new world opened up to him.  One couldn't keep him away from there after he had been there for the first time.