MR LOWIES
I would answer this Chair, I would submit and I can state it categorically that this in my instructions.  Mr Nosenga is an utter liar on various aspects.  He is a liar in this regard and what I'm trying to do is to show to you that he has a propensity of telling lies even when faced with the consequences and therefore it is relevant as to his credibility.  You would agree with me, with respect Chair, that the purpose of cross-examination is two fold, one of them is to ...(intervention)