CHAIRPERSON
Just repeat that name please.
MR MAKHURA
"I was approached by Sebenzile Ndabene.  Sebenzile Ndabene was one of the high-ranking ANC members in Polla Park.  He was also Self Defence Unit member but there is a difference according to us between the SDU and operator in Polla Park.  When we talk of operators we refer to those who carry weapons of war and those who are highly trained.  Then when we talk of Self Defence Units we refer to each and every person who is capable of carrying any rudimentary weapon to defend the people ..."
...(intervention)