HENDRIK JOHANNES PETRUS BOTHA
Negative Mr Chairperson.  I would just like to explain that Mr Ramatala's explanation concerning rewards for the askaris of Vlakplaas, is not as it was the normal practice.
	If I can just get an opportunity to explain this.  Informants or any person who gave information that led to the arrest or the elimination of a terrorist ...(recording stopped) ... became R2 500-00 per person.  A certain amount was connected to for example a land mine or a Makarov and these information that we received, were rewarded.  The askaris, if they were to operate here by the identification of a person, led to the arrest of a terrorist and these rewards were then paid to them in Pretoria, at the unit at Head Office.
	In the activity that occurred in Natal, where one of our informants, information led to the arrest of a person, we then paid the person here.  It was sent to Head Office and we then paid that person directly.  We never paid out rewards as we thought fit, and that is concerning the physical identification of such a person and then the arrest of that person.