ADV MEMANI
Yes Chairperson.  The evidence was not that people were unduly influenced or forced to say things they did not want to say, the evidence was that Mr Motsamai was tricked into a situation where he found himself being at Pretoria with an attorney.
	He had believed that they were going to do their own amnesties.  However, when they arrived there, they saw an attorney who wanted, who he realised wanted them to speak with one voice.  That attorney took them one by one into an office and inside that office, he was reading from a certain document and he would read from the document and seek confirmation of what he had read from the applicant, that is my recollection.