TESTIMONY_GIVER:
 Yes I did, to Mike here in town and to a lawyer Van Heerden.  They did give me some money but it was too little and I used it.  The amount was two thousand.  Then I also decided to put up a shack so as to accommodate my children and my family, that is why therefore I feel I need the pension because I did work in Johannesburg some time and I left that work, that is when I got injured here.  So I've got no one to help me.  I'm starving, I must say, so I'm telling the truth that I have got these children and if my sister has not managed to sell anything then we do not have anything to live on.