OBED BAPELA
Well we were involved in a political struggle.  We were involved in a struggle for liberation and then yes as activists and as comrades that was the problem and that was the intention, to undermine the South African government, to make it ungovernable obviously, as was the problem of the ANC it has called from exile.  And I think it is a just war and a just struggle that we engaged ourselves in and we pride ourselves in that particular struggle because today here we are, having liberated South Africa and its people and then beginning to transform it and then so that this quality of life that would then be there for the rest of our people.