CHAIRPERSON
I think it is quite clear from the evidence that General Griebenauw what he performed and the orders he issued in pursuance to anything under Katzen was - he wasn't acting as a maverick and trying to further his own aims.  In fact quite to the contrary it's quite clear that from the start he wasn't keen on it, but what he did was, because he was obliged he felt obliged to do.  I think that's quite clear from his evidence and that he took the quickest opportunity to bail out of it.