MS ANDERSON
Well as I, I think I explained earlier, we had no idea that we were going to place their lives at risk until the raid happened.  We assumed that if the South African Defence Force had intelligence, it would be intelligence about MK activities, it wouldn't be just some hodge-podge conglomeration about people painting pictures and people dancing and muddle all of that up into one big target.  There was no knowledge, I mean we were people with needs like anybody else.  We needed to dance and have music like anybody else, so of course we mixed in that community, but we had no concept that the intelligence was so shoddy and ...(intervention)