MR KHUNGWANE
All right.  Okay.  First, what I would like to say, at the PAC I've got a friend in the lady, she works at there.  I once ask her if do they know their cadres.  Then she said to me, "We know them".  Then I said to her, "Just go and find out if you know about this Mvijane", because I had his first application amnesty at home.  Then unfortunately I didn't follow the procedure because of the problems which I'm having at the farm.  Secondly, what I would like to say, I would say to the Committee and the members of PAC.
	Firstly, Mvijane has not shown any remorse or any regrets.  He's proud, and I would say to you people of PAC, don't mould youngsters to be criminal if it's not like that - if it's like that, don't mould youngsters to be criminals.  Mould youngsters to be the people of the next generation, because the minute you mould these youngster to become criminals it's where you're spoiling the country.  Whatever is happening now recently in Congo is going to happen here in South Africa.  I'm telling you people.  You can say whatever you like, it's coming here.  It's coming here.