ANDRIES MATANZIMA NOSENGA
No, that is a mistake.  Darkie, yes, was present, but I did not see him.  I am saying the one person that I saw in charge of the firearms, was Darkie Chonco, I did not see Damara.  Now, if you are saying it was Mkhize and Damara who were leading the attack on Boipatong, really that is something news to me.