ADV PRIOR
Yes, well we saw photographs.  I tendered photographs to the Committee showing what the deceased looked like, certainly they were fair in complexion.  Yes, I can't argue that they were fair in complexion, but we had the congregation informing them of the true position.  I mean where we're dealing with automatons here, these programmed robots, were they just programmed killing machines?  With submission they were not, they had a discretion.  On their version they were APLA combatants.  We've heard the evidence of their commander that they had a discretion, they could taylor the operation depending on the circumstances on the ground.