TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  There are a few people who I feel need to be put on record in that - the case of Warrant-Officer Pienaar.  My dad - when they went up to identify the body, and of course we went up on two occasions to identify the body, the first occasion being my mum - my parents couldn't identify Lennie because of the state of the body.  It was just badly decomposing, the refrigeration was non-existent.  And on the second occasion - they came back home, then they went back up to Piet Retief a few hours later, after we told my mum - or reminded her of birthmarks and spots on the body.  And she phoned - then they phoned back to say well, they did identify the body.  And my dad asked Warrant-Officer Pienaar where is the clothes of Lennie, and of course anybody else.  And Lennie always - he was given a gold chain for his 21st birthday, and you know, "Where is the gold chain, and what else did he have on him?"  Well Pienaar just - as a matter of fact just said, "Well, the clothes it's in the bin out there.  We burnt it because of the threat of AIDS.  And there was R300,00 on him, and in any case you all can't have that money because it belonged to the ANC," but it was fine for him to have it I suppose.  "And the gold chain, he didn't have a gold chain on him."  Now, these little things I would like to know what happened to.  These are the things that I feel can give us a good idea of how they were not just ordinary murderers in my opinion, they were also thieves.  And even thieving from dead bodies was something I don't think I can stand to accept at all at any level.