ANDRIES MOZIKEFANI GAMEDE
I'm saying in terms of the policies of the democratic forces at that stage, anyone who was part, I'm talking politically, anyone who was part of the system which Mr Msibi was part, he was representing at that stage, as I'm sitting here today, I'm a Mayor of Piet Retief and I represent the ANC and I actually whatever policies that I throw on the ground are in direction of the ANC which is the Government.  Msibi at that stage, he was representing the Nationalist Party which was opposed to the people of South Africa in getting liberation.