GEORGE BIZOS
Yes, Mr Chairman.   If that is lack of clarity as to whose bullet killed Mr Ntombela, and if it is not conclusive that it came from the place above or next to Nandos, we would persist in the application because the guards do not know whom they shot.   So, we will persist in the Application and my learned friend can advise himself as to what further evidence, if any, he wants to lead in that regard.
	Mr Chonco is on a different basis because we contend that the evidence clearly shows that he was not shot with a shotgun.   So that is the distinguishing feature.   Thank you Mr Chairman.