MR BOOYENS
Mr Chairman, I just want to record also that I reserve my rights at this stage just in light of what has happened now, that there seems to be a fair amount of hostility - I reserve my rights.  At this stage I wish to carry on and I would like the public to hear what Mr Nieuwoudt says but I would reserve any rights I might have in this regard, should it become impossible for us to feel that we can conduct our case in such a way that justice can not only be done but also be seen to be done.
	I call Mr Nieuwoudt.  Mr Nieuwoudt could I please swear - could you please stand.