CHAIRPERSON
I'm sorry, just a minute.  Just a minute, just a minute, just a minute.  Can I please ask, one understands that when we have to deal with this kind of matter that there are different views expressed.  Some that one agrees with, some that one disagrees with.  But we have to do our work.  We have to hear all of the information that can assist us in coming to a fair decision on a matter that we have to decide upon.  So, please can I ask you to ensure at least that we are able to take note of everything that is said here and even if you disagree with a point that is made, the person is entitled to make the point.  That is part of our democracy that we have now at present.
	So can I please just ask everybody just to restrain yourselves so that we can hear what the witness says.  Give him an opportunity.  We've given everybody else opportunities to put their case.  So, Mr Khungwane, please just carry on where you stopped.