CHAIRPERSON
He can go on telling us that he is from time to time.  The other bit that do not merely, are fill-ins, as to what Ngo and Motsamai did, how they treated him, if they have not disclosed that, that is effect, may well affect their applications.  As you know they are under an obligation to make a full disclosure.  If this witness gives evidence of incidents that have not been disclosed and we accept the liabilities it effects their applications.