ADV DONEN
Thank you that is very frank of you.  Let me put to you what Mr Pedro said and it has been put to you previously in a court, but on the previous occasion you denied it, so we would like to get some clarity on this occasion.   And it is in Afrikaans.  He says after the policemen, he is talking about when he met you in August of 1987, he was brought to Culemborg and he says 		"That there the first Security Policemen that arrived there, was Warrant Officer Benzien and Warrant Officer Nortje.	When he arrived it was you and Nortje".