MOKOTEDI MPSHE
If that is what I said, it is not what is referred to in the document, but the impression is that Mr Mathews Phosa after talking to General van der Merwe, got in touch with General le Roux, but his document does not say whether he did give the statement to General le Roux or not.  That is why I directed the Investigative Unit to get in touch with General van der Merwe, who was involved at the initial stages, and the response from the Investigative Unit is that he does not have a recollection thereof.  So, we could not get that statement that was made, apparently, around 1993.
	These were the reasons for the postponement of this matter, Mr Chairman.  Thank you, I am speaking under correction.  If Mr de Koker would want to confirm, he can do so or.