MARY BURTON
[indistinct] coming to tell us of the experience that you and your family had.  As dr Ramashala has said this is not the first time we have heard of the experience of people who either were or had been community counselors.  It was indeed fortunate that nobody was killed and we will follow up some of the indications that you have given us.  We thank you very much for coming today.  We ask the audience now to stand as the witnesses leave the room.  We will break for lunch and be back at 2 o'clock.