BERNARD MAKGABO NGOEPE
There is something else also troubling me.  With regard to the second applicant, his entire explanation of what happened at the scene, is contained in a paragraph on page 4 of the statement I think of the statement he entered in, and he didn't go beyond that.  That portion read - paragraph 3 of page of his handwritten statement, which you handed in yesterday"
"Ons het daar ingery".
Do you see that?  The statement which you handed in 
2B - 11.2	yesterday/...
JUDGE NGOEPE	121	MR BANADE
yesterday by Mr Erasmus, page 4:
"We drove a stretch and stopped in a bush.  Deep in the IFP area.  I got out and saw Jama running away.  I drew my 9mm pistol and pointed it at him in order to shoot him.  Harrington said I should not for fear of ballistic tests.  Harrington and Madlala traced him.  The rest of us followed.  Madlala took the shotgun from Dhlamini.  The rest of us started walking back to the vehicle and the shot went off".
Has he said anything about the actual killing?  How the deceased was treated at the scene?  Has he really said anything about that?