MR DE JAGER
Now I would like to refer you to page 14.  I know that's a translation where according to the translation you said
"I was with Happy Aubrey Mngomezulu when we went to Escourt to buy stock for the sparza shop.  It was a Friday.  On our way home the IFP supporter had been mad fighting.  There was turmoil and confusion, shots were fired, we ran and the police caught me"
And according to paragraph 10(a):
"The leadership has caused all the ordeal, those of the IFP against those of the ANC.  There was fighting everywhere at taxi ranks, etc."
And then on page 16:
"There was fighting everywhere in Escourt, taxi ranks were divided into two, there was one for the ANC and one for the IFP."
And then can you remember that you've also completed an application for indemnity?  Can you remember that?