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Mr Chairman during my service at Murder and Robbery I was a Detective at Murder and 
Robbery, I had knowledge of the activities of the Security Branch and for the reasons of ...(indistinct), but I 
had not undergone any security training. 	In my own individual manner I knew that for instance the 
PAC or any of the liberation movements that some of the people said that, this is the information made 
available to me, that were they not able to arm themselves they would have had to do an armed robbery to 
gain funding sometimes for their organisations. 
	At that time I had very little knowledge of what an activist was.  Were you a member of the 
ANC/PAC or a communist organisation, you were considered to have been a terrorist and even if you were 
only positively inclined towards these movements, you would have been in my eyes, a terrorist.
	If any of these persons were then engaged in an armed robbery, I would have been interested in 
their action.  I can refer for instance to the Silverton bank robbery.  I cannot remember the year in which 
that occurred, but there were four or five terrorists who were killed and a number of members - civilians.
PRETORIA HEARING	AMNESTY/