MR MARTINI
...(sound cut off) ... issue, the issue of the weapon.  What does Mr Barnard say?  There's different bundles, Mr Chairman will you excuse me.  We can find it, but the gist of it is, in his evidence-in-chief Mr Barnard was questioned on the issue of the Makarov pistol.  His evidence was and it's clear - I've got a note here, but I can find the bundle, at page 2668
"I never asked to monitor Dullah Omar, as has been the case, I was requested to kill Dullah Omar, because the other persons had proven ineffective.  Arrangements were made for me and a meeting took place with a Coloured gang member, one Peaches.  I think at the Cape Sun Hotel or some place nearby.  It was in the evening.  Peaches ...(indistinct) after our discussion and returned and in my presence he handed over a firearm to Van Zyl.  A Makarov pistol with a silencer.  Which he removed from the box.  Van Zyl gave the Makarov and the silencer to me.  I hid it in the ceiling of my hotel room."
Very, very important words these, because if the Committee then refers to the cross-examination by Mr Bizos, and I submit Mr Bizos realised the slip because he asked him the question twice, he says:
"Who gave you the Makarov?"
he says:
"Peaches"
Mr Bizos then asks him again:
"Who gave you the Makarov?"
and he says:
"I have no doubt, Peaches"
Now that's a material discrepancy on a weapon.  But we'll go further - sorry, Chairperson, if you can just bear with me.  Yes Chairperson, conflicted or referred to, page 298(sic), where Mr Bizos asks this question:
"Did the firearm come out of the possession of Peaches?"
		"MR BARNARD:  It came from the possession of Peaches and upon Slang van Zyl's instruction he handed it over to me."
in the presence of Slang.
"MR BARNARD:   It was a Makarov pistol, a Russian manufactured Makarov with a silencer."