ZUKILE MBAMBO
The matter is like this sir, at court there is a case, nobody wants to go to prison.  There, when I was on trial, I was trying to save myself.
	That is why I lied.  As there were a number of people who were lying, including Mr Els, he lied in court over a number of things.   Here sir, this process is not like the court there, that takes or sends people to prison, this is a Truth Commission, they want the truth in order to bring reconciliation.
	I am telling you that here I am telling the truth.