MR SHANE
Sir, he says the application did not get to the TRC offices, correct, it was made on the 10th of May and it got lost from the time he signed his application, completed the form.  It got lost.  It could have got lost after it was handed to the TRC office at that time, at that time they were in the Sanlam Building, it could have been lost after it was given to them, or it could have been lost between the time it was signed by him and brought to the TRC offices.