MARK RICHARD SPARG
I mean '93, sorry, and I was asked by the ANC Branch in Nochga to stand up and put some proposals forward to this Commission as to what we thought should happen to the Nochga scheme, because at that stage it was in complete disarray.  No direction, and even people working there had no tenure of employment.  They didn't know how long they were going to be employed.  I don't think that what I said actually appealed to a lot of people and I think perhaps I made some enemies, possibly with  people that were in charge of the Unions at Nochga, but anyway I think that is a salient point because towards the, from then on towards the end of the year we used to get the sort of statement to say well what do you white people want here.  We don't want you here.  Very strange, because I'm an ethnic person myself in a sense.   I'm a Transkeian.  I know nothing else.  Trading is in our blood and we didn't understand this, it sort of  took the ground out from under our feet.