JEANETTE THERON
That is correct.  I did say that when they committed the offences they were already knew what they were doing, they were adults then.  They were not completely adult yet, but they were already old enough to make certain decisions on their own, but when I refer in my statement to manipulation, I specifically referred to the ages when they were still in Std 6, when they were still capable of being influenced. I think later on Mr Du Plessis senior did not play such a major role, although it seems to me that there wasn't that much contact later on. So my reference to manipulation is due to their ages in Std 6.  For me as a social worker that is a very sensitive stage in a child's development.