MR RAUTENBACH
Now my first question is, when in December he came and approached you about this statement, the mention, the fact that he mentioned to you your brother is a suspect - we know he said we are looking at other avenues, that statement must have been, if I listened to your evidence and what you believed and how you were impressed by his acting, must have been a shock to your system to hear that he's in fact, in fact he's a suspect, he's a suspect, they were looking at other avenues.  That must have been a shock, am I correct?