RUSSELL ALLY
Now if you can assist us.  I know that you may not want to answer this question, but it's important for us to try and understand the nature of this conflict that was taking place.  Was it common place or was it happening fairly often that there were clashes between the youth I would say, because you speak about yourself as being a member of the ANC Youth League.  Although at the time. we know the ANC was still unbanned, so I, was still banned rather, sorry, so I assume you're speaking about the UDF as opposed to the ANC Youth League.
 Whatever.  Were the clashes between the police and the youth;  were these violent clashes, because you speak about policemen's houses as having been burned, you speak about this policeman, alleging accusing you of having had a petrol bomb.  From what you can remember from this period, was this the nature of the conflicts;  that is was violent and ...