MR D'OLIVIERA
Mr Chairman again one must refer to the evidence led at the trial court.  This is the evidence that was led that these are the type of offences that were committed.  We have heard the evidence of the applicant to the effect that most of these actions is because he was an ANC member, I am talking of the deceased now, apparently my learned friend made reference he was going to call Wehbag who could also probably throw light on this.  I note that Wehbag himself was a victim in an attempted murder by the deceased, it's listed here, and I think yes Wehbag could also perhaps assist in saying to us that no, these offences must have been and were politically motivated, offences by the deceased.