BOY VUSIMUZI GWAMANDA
I hear that very well, Chairman.  I'm trying to explain now inasfar as Matthew Phosa's issue is concerned.
	I cannot expatiate much here about other activities that were going on in Mpumalanga that were being planned by the AWB Boers.  There were so many of them but I don't have time or an opportunity to lay this before the Commission, so this restricts me a great deal. 
	I'm trying to say to Matthew Phosa I am sorry, I was instructed to kill him.  I was indeed going to instruct(?) him because the AWB was in my company.  I won't sit here and lie and say I wasn't anyway going to shoot Matthew Phosa but I was.  That I should accept but the Committee is restricting me in saying other things like my wife and girlfriends but see I cannot talk about such things because of time constraints.