GIDEON JOHANNES NIEUWOUDT
What happened on that particular day that I can remember, I was personally present.  That was at New Brighton Police Station.  It was in New Brighton at the church where Mrs Mangope would have addressed a meeting and there was a choir that would have performed at the so-called speech that she would have given. 	Mr Jack was in front of the entrance of this church and when the choir moved on, he had an interview with them and the choir turned around and left and there was a case of intimidation laid against him.  	I didn't investigate it and I didn't have anything to do with him on that particular day.  Nothing of that I can remember.