NORMAN ARENDSE
Well, the applicants themselves can't give an answer and haven't given an answer and haven't attempted to give an answer.  I have attempted in trying to complete the picture, I've said - and I think one can infer this safely from the facts, that Sebeko - the other chap that was on the other side of the car, that he was the person that must have sprayed some bullets across the road.
	There is also evidence from John Jacobs - the Council chap, that he saw shots being fired on that side of the street - against the building on the other side of the road and we also know from Brode that those shots were fired.  Now, unless we want to question the credibility of any of the three applicants, they claim that each one did what he was supposed to do and they didn't - I think Mabala was questioned quite extensively on this point, that he said: "Look, I was focusing on what I was supposed to do, I was a lookout, I had to see that my comrades were not being attacked, I don't know what anyone else did".