CHAIRPERSON
What the Advocate is saying is that when you were, during your trial you told the Judge that this story about an old lady was something you made up.  And you now tell us, that wasn't the truth, but that you were trying to save yourself and that is why you told the Judge that it was something that you made up.
	Today you tell us that the idea of an old lady was really something that was reported to you by the police when they were investigating this matter and interrogating you.  That information they acquired from one or more of your colleagues.  What the Advocate, and you say - what the Advocate is asking you is why didn't you tell Judge Davies that in fact this information I acquired from the police rather than saying you made it up?  Because it wouldn't make any difference, you were lying in both cases.