MRS DERBY-LEWIS
Yes, on that tape as well he's talking to me in the passage and there's a long period of where the camera focuses simply on the table and one is inclined to just switch off because you think it's the end of the tape but in fact somebody comes in - a lady in a White jacket, and then we go out and then you can hear my husband and I talking and he's explaining what was happening to him in the cells.  I found Mr Beetge's words exactly, they were
"Everyone has his own method of how to break them"