ADV SANDI
Sorry, Advocate Knoetze, can I try and assist here with the manner in which I understand the witness.  He did not discuss his inferences with Major van der Merwe.  When we say van der Merwe gave him that report, he simply inferred that from this, from what Mr van der Merwe is telling me, people may have to be killed and that was the end of the matter, he did not communicate his thoughts to Major van der Merwe.