MR PRETORIUS
Now Mr Potsane it was common cause between the guards, that is Mr Molefe, Mr Veli Llale and Mr Moolman himself that when the shooting started Mr Moolman was on the parapet at the corner of King George Street and De Villiers Street and he was accompanied by the two guards I mentioned, that is Mr Llale and Mr Molefe.  Do you deny that?