CROSBY KOLANI NDINISA
I was together with Madoda Tisana and other Comrades.  There were six of us if I still remember very well.  Philemon Maxam was not there at the time.  We decided to go out and look for weapons.  We got a report that we could find weapons in Vlaklandplaas, Vlakkeland Farm.  The person who gave us this report was Noyoyo Nelson Sono, but while we were in Block D Philemon Maxam came to us and we told him about this situation.  If I ... he came to look at the situation as people were being shot.  He wanted to know whether there were people who were robbed and we then told him about this report by Nelson Noyoyo Sono, but if I remember well Madoda Tisana was the one reporting to him, but I was also there.  As we know, as we knew that he was a leader and we could trust him in the struggle.
	We asked Philemon Maxam if we could have a gun with us so that we can defend ourselves when we were being attacked.  He told us that he does have a gun, but he cannot give us his gun, but he will be happy if he will take part in this raid.