MR BLACK
Thank you, I am indebted to my learned friend.  This deals really where you make an allegation that - paragraph 91 essentially, that Mr Khaba's mother was killed and we heard a gunshot and one of our members, Obet Hlabati, was shot in the chest.
	What is contained in 91 and 92, is really as I understand it, not within your personal knowledge as well, you were not in Ermelo at the time.  This is something that you were told?