CHAIRPERSON
No don't tell about any person who had not been party to the initial apprehension and ultimately to the beating, at least up to the time when you have just given us your evidence.  So it was the same group, the group did not change?  It was the group that you've counted that included people like Sepo, it was the same group that consisted of Moses Dlamini, Basil Ngwenye, Sepo Nduli, Mfanafuti Michael Khumalo and yourself, the group was like that?