ANDRE FRANCOIS VISSER
Chief Commandant Kloppers was angry because we left the scene.   They did not have ammunition to shoot more, I don't know what, he wasn't, he was angry, he wanted to know how many shots each person fired.   No-one argued with him and said it would have been a wrong thing to do, then I would have been a victim as well today, no-one argued and then someone went to the vehicle, I don't know who, he brought the ear and he showed the ear to us and said that is the trophy.