CHAIRPERSON
I have been informed that the Chairman of the Free State Agricultural Union, Mr Gouws is present in the hearing and I do not know whether he would be prepared to consult with the two persons leading evidence and to give evidence if either of them wish to call him.  Would he be prepared to consult with them, very briefly now?  I offer you the opportunity, both of you, to consult with him as to whether he can give evidence as to the circumstances existing at the time in this regard and we will adjourn shortly to enable you to do so.