AZHAR CACHALIA
The other two applicants in fact, when they submitted their original applications, had, as was stated in the letter to Mr Magwaza, denied guilt, and therefore at that stage already there should have been a decision.  The question is that the decision wasn't taken and the Committee is now seized with the particular application, and having been seized with the particular application that we are now, I am saying, let's assume for the purposes of argument that this Committee makes a decision that the applicants are not granted the amnesty.  Are they entitled to make a fourth set of affidavits?  Where does it end?  And I'm saying that at the particular stage when they completed the application forms in May of 1997 when they denied guilt and when they lied, that in itself is a non-disclosure material, which should in itself bind the Committee in refusing the application.  Because I am saying that if we accept that they are entitled to make ...(intervention)