CHAIRPERSON
Well strictly speaking, the reconciliation part of the issue is not the paramount leg of the Amnesty Committee's job, that would have been done in another Committee but I'm going to allow it now seeing as we're busy with a very emotional issue.  But I'd appreciate it if we curtail it in terms of details, I mean the fact that a particular person committed rape on a victim is not going to effect the outcome of this application.  So to the extent that it may reconcile two people, I'm going to allow it but I'm going to ask you to cut out most of the details please.