MR NOTUNUNU
I am not going to be long Honourable Chair, thank you very much for the chance.
	The problem I am having with the submissions by my learned friend, is that the evidence, his evidence is circumstantial and the problem with that is that it is not based on the, it is not based on any facts.
	The law is clear that if you come with circumstantial evidence, then such must be reasonable.  It is very much unreasonable to think that because Nyembezi was known or knew Mbhele then Nyembezi would have then in the circumstances, formed the idea of going and killing Mbhele.  That is very, very much unreasonable conclusion.
	If Nyembezi had in fact wanted to kill Mbhele, that he could have done at the police station in question, at that very moment, after he had identified him.  Besides that, Honourable Chair, my learned counsel had also referred to the cutting of the telephones.  He says the cutting of the telephone was done because perhaps there had been this some form of identification.
	What is not clear to my learned friend is that these people who had gone there, were in fact MK trained SDU's.  The cutting of the telephone was in fact a way of frustrating the enemy, so that they could not be followed there and then.
	Of course the question of the discrepancy in the applications, that is the when they had said they were MK, that had been explained.  Honourable Chair, the fact that my learned counsel says because there were wounds on the face or because of the multiplicity of the wounds, that is suggestive of close range shooting.
	Again, it is my submission with respect, that there is no basis for that, and that is not the only conclusion which can be drawn, because if you are going to rely on circumstantial evidence, the conclusion you seek to draw, must be the only conclusion and it must be a reasonable one.
	All the conclusions my learned friend has in fact come to in this particular case, which he bases on the circumstantial evidence, in fact not even on circumstantial evidence, but on what have been said by the witness, are in fact not reasonable.   It is my submission sir, with respect, that we have in fact done and we have in fact explained, and we have in fact disclosed all that in fact e know in this particular case, and again we move for the granting of the applications sir, with respect.