ABRAM VAN ZYL
We were in that vicinity.  What I can remember, we were in the area, we parked far away initially when Gakkie visited the premises, after which we drove closer so that we could observe the place.
	Then some of the people came out of the premises, we drove even closer and then we drove to the point where the bomb eventually, when we reached the stage when the bomb was eventually detonated, but I cannot tell you exactly where I was at that stage.  Yesterday it took me ten minutes to reconstruct the scene, so that I could say "we were standing exactly at that point", and the reason why I can say that we were standing at that point when the bomb was detonated is only because I can clearly remember that the parking area at that stage, had been to the right behind me, and the building was there.
	And I can also remember that shortly after the bomb was detonated, we turned left.  That is why I can explain that specific point and that area to you in this way.  The rest unfortunately, I cannot help you with.