XOLISWA CLIFFORD PONI
Sir, I share your sentiment, but if you were in the, particularly in the APLA and in the PAC in general when the announcement, in fact even before the announcement if I may just draw you back because this is quite a political issue, Mr Johnson Mlambo flew from Dar Es Salaam to a Cape Town congress to convince only the membership so as to accept the change that was there.  He was nearly beaten in that only the membership, not APLA itself that time, I was in Dar Es Salaam at that time, just to tell the membership internally that no, the situation - Africa thinks we must participate in the negotiations and we must participate in the negotiations in Cape Town, I think it was well read in the newspapers then, those who were in South Africa at the time.  He was booed in that meeting, he could not finish what he was saying and at that time he was the most respected person because he was the Chairperson of the PAC and also the Commander in Chief of APLA at the time but his credibility was lost because of the militancy within the PAC at that time and this was a very short space of time for anybody really.  I agree with the sentiments of also of the gentleman here when they continued because also ourselves at that time, we could not take a very serious decision.  We had senior internal members of the High Command who could not see things, also the other people do see things.  We had to iron out those differences and they continued, despite the fact that that was done, but they continued and they are still continuing.  When we are meeting we are still labelling each other, sell-outs and the rest, amongst our own selves, so this is the depth of the problem.