CHAIRPERSON
Yes, we well understand that.  I would like to take up the point that Wynand Malan has made that in many ways this is an example of how far we are still to go in going along a road where communities live in peace together, but I would like to salute you for coming forward this afternoon in the way that you have done, because what you have done is made a contribution towards that.  It is still very painful, it is still very raw, it is still, as we can see from the public response, it is something that is still very much talked about in the community and is very important to the community, but by your coming forward you have made a contribution in how we can all move forward and how you particularly in this community can do so and work towards, as we are trying to do through the Commission, work towards a situation where communities do live in peace through understanding the past.  So I would like to thank both of you very much for coming forward.  Thank you.