MR POTGIETER
Yes, can I Mr Booyens just explain.   You see, I understand the applicants to have said that they never intended to cause the death of Mr Biko.   What they wanted to do was to get a criminal charge to stick against him and to get him dealt with by the courts, possibly imprisoned and neutralise his influence in that way.   So I understand them to say that obviously the breach of the banning order is cut and dry - I mean he was guilty of that one, there's no question about that.   But they were also interested in the pamphlet because they obviously believe that he had some critical role to play either as the author or somehow distributing the pamphlet, so they could possibly make that charge stick against him as well.  Because I mean look, the wording of that pamphlet had opened up quite a few serious charges, you could think of sedition, you could think of all sorts of serious charges.
	So I had thought what they were trying to tell us was that that was really what they were all about.   They were going to use the law against him; they were going to throw the book against him; get him convicted and take him out of circulation or am I mistaken in that impression?