HELENE KROON DE KOCK
They withdrew their children, they walked out because of the children we enrolled at that stage.  We had to make a decision there, whether we are going to run with the crowd and with the popular view at that stage, or are we willing to be deserted totally, rejected totally.  I mean, I know the depths of rejection, I know where - I know what it means to be totally rejected by people that you thought is your family and your friends.  People of your own language group and whatever.