URIAL ABRAHAMSE
It was most certainly a cultural structure, Mr Chair, in the broad sense of the word.  Not an ANC cultural structure, it was a cultural organisation.  I mean, I'll give you an example.  At one stage I was responsible for co-ordinating the activities of the children's unit in MEDU and on June 1, which is International Children's day, we had arranged a cultural day for children at the museum in Gaberone where we took the children around through the museum, explained to them the value of a museum.  We had a juggler there, we had people teaching the children how to draw.  Yes it was to do with the arts and culture.