WILLEM JOHANNES VAN DER MERWE
Yes I'm getting to that now.  In this context the University of the North was the flash-point in the sense that a large group of students were concentrated there and it housed a large number of students, more than  it was destined for and there was a lot of political activity taking place there and more specifically undermining political activities, and this was aimed against the state.
	Now this also meant that the surrounding areas such as Mankweng etc, that that became an affected area in this particular regard.  I mustn't fail to mention that there were also some Black towns in the area which did not fall under the independent states and that was at Warm Baths, Nylstroom, Naboomspruit and at Messina. 
	Obviously councils were established to administer these areas and we experienced problems there as a result of intimidation and purposeful rejection of the system and we experienced major problems in maintaining the councillors and these councils and forums.