DUMA MOSES NKOSI
(s.u.o.)   Thank you.  What I was trying to highlight here something that we almost left out is with reference to the assistance that we got from the independent board of enquiry.  This was an organisation that was formed by different SACC members or churches.  We had the Archbishop Tutu and Alex Boraine and Sheena Duncan.  I am raising this because this organisation helped us out quite a lot in our area, are sixteen people where it was necessary during the violent times.  I am raising this because it is important for people to know that everything that we did, gathering information so that it could be presented here.  We managed to do this with the help of Sally Sele because we used to bring her in and she also gathered information from other people.  I am raising this simply because we had problems because we could not find legal assistance timeously where necessary and she was able to secure some legal representation for some of us and we also enjoyed a great deal of assistance in terms of her liaison with the police so that we could meet and I can also say that many things that I have said here, like reference to the 32 Battalion in Phola Park, she also helped us out quite a lot here.  We also had medicine that we used to attend to some of our members who got injured and she also referred to people who could help us with counselling.
	Another important thing is that when we investigated the involvement of the police we had Jan Munnik who was a Wits police reporting officer in charge of reporting matters pertaining to the involvement of the police in these area.  Here he also played an important part.  Another thing here is that in October 1994 we were trying to dismantle the self defence units but we were not as successful in our efforts. Be that as it may, we managed to hand over firearms, some of which we had collected from our members.  This appears in Annexure 5.  Yes, we were not as successful as we meant to be but yes she had a hand in making sure that these arms are given to the police in Thokoza.
	And lastly it should be known that in all our endeavours to fill in the amnesty applications, yes she also played a part here, assisting some of us in filling in these forms.  That is why we were able to bring many people forward, people who filled in these application forms.  Thank you very much.