MS PRETORIUS
Chairperson and I would like just to say that this question that was put to the applicant is not correct.  He said in the second house he - the man came out of the gate, he hit him with a knobkierrie and the man fled.  He didn't say he hid behind the car, it was the second, the man that he stabbed that hid behind the car if I'm not mistaken.