OESMAN ALEXANDER
No, I've told you earlier that that was clear on the media but after a while Gakkie was back in the area and thereafter he left the area, so it's no, we knew that Gakkie was involved and it was Gakkie's deeds and there was State involvement, but where would we go?  I wouldn't go the ...(indistinct) police station to go and make a statement to that effect.