DR BORAINE
I see, I am not going to pursue this - these questions because there is a witness who I understand actually saw what happened, so what I am going to suggest is that we let you relax a little bit and that we heard the second witness.  But before I do that, I want to consult with my colleagues to find out if they want to ask you questions before or after Basil speaks to us.  Advocate Ntsebeza.
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