JEFFERY T BENZIEN
Mr Yengeni, not only you have asked me that question.  I, I, Jeff Benzien, have asked myself that question to such an extent that I voluntarily, and it is not easy for me to say this in a full court with a lot of people who do not know me, approached Psychiatrists to have myself evaluated, to find out what type of person am I.
	There was a stage when this whole scene was going on, that I thought I was losing my mind.  I have subsequently been, and I am now still, under treatment, where I have to take tablets on a regular basis.
	I have respect for every cadre of Umkhonto weSizwe as  I know the situation now.  The times when we were adversaries, was a different time.  I had the fortune or misfortune of growing up in a White environment in Cape Town.
	I did not either through my own stupidity or ignorance as long as I was one of the Whites, the privileged Whites who had an education, who had a house, I couldn't see it being taken away.  If you ask me what type of person is it that can do that, I ask myself the same question.
	Bearing in mind for want of a better explanation, if you had a bad foot and the surgeon had to cut it off to save your life, then maybe I am trying to soften my conscience by saying that is the person who I was, irrespective how dirty, how mean, how horrible it was, I would do that and it was not and I think, you and the rest of the accused, could say that for the initial interrogation that I did, the day after or the day after that or the day after that, I did not interrogate any one of you with a bad method.
	And I think all of you can say that in honesty.  My application Mr Yengeni, please tell me if I am right or wrong, my application of the wet bag method was at the initial arrest, until such times as you had against your will, revealed who your contacts were or where your arms caches were.  Could you please answer me that, is it correct?  Is it correct Mr Yengeni.