PETER JONES
On many occasions the inter-action between detainees and Security Police would far exceed the boundaries of what you would want to purport to be of course an almost professional relationship.
	It would become very, very personal, they would be very emotional about the fact that they believe that we were arrogant and "hardegat", we had no right to be the way we were.  It was way beyond the fact that we were people of integrity.  That together with the fact that there were many, many cases of excesses that no one can understand, and that is why we are here, I believe, because of all these excesses.