TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  Yes, I understand the policeman who said he killed my son was Van Niekerk.  Maybe it's because I'm old and I'm a bit deaf but I think they said it was Van Niekerk.  Now, I  say I want Van Niekerk to come and speak the truth and I want him to tell the whole world as to who sent him because I went to Velbang(?) and Duffle - Duffle - I could speak to Duffle at some stage and there was a certain policeman called Mpotosi.  That is the one who came after they had killed Musa.  They killed Musa.  That's when the policeman from Mpotosi ran away.  Velbang was from KwaMbonambi and he's the one who was sending them to come and attack people.  Here it is Duffle.