MR DORFLING
You see Mr Llale if we may revert back to page 3723 the last line on that page, line 30. It was quite clear that the question that was posed to you was posed to you in such a way that not only the proposition of the marchers pointing the firearms was put to you but also the fact that you actually saw them firing. It says the following
"And are you saying today that you actually saw them pointing their firearms at ANC security guards and firing at them?"
You didn't respond by saying it was pointed but I just (...indistinct)