MS THABETHA
Mr Chairperson, I spoke to Mr Mojafa.  Mr Nel, apparently he is no longer working for the Sasolburg police station.  Detective Pienaar as well is no longer working for the police station, and Captain Max, I couldn't get him on the phone, but I did leave a message with Mr Mojafa or Detective Mojafa, but that was telephonically and I spoke to Adv Madasa, who reassured me that there wouldn't be a need for implicated parties in this matter because we had separated the two matters, or the two incidents.  So it was on those basis that I didn't see the need of serving a written form to ...