ADV MEMANI
You see I'll tell you the impression that I've got and why I'm putting this to you.  The impression that I got is that in instances with security branch as security branch alone were interested in matters, they arrested people and they took them to Fountains and from there they would take them to prison. 	And on this occasion people were taken from Botshabelo Township into your offices, they were not taken into your cells and they were interrogated there and then taken to Grootvlei.