MS MOLOISANE
Madam Chair, at this stage we know that Mr Radebe was sort of more senior to Mr Mkhwanazi, but that being the case, the fact that Bonga, I mean Mr Radebe was second in command to Bonga, I mean, puts me in a very difficult position.  I cannot take that further, but the only point that I can drive home is that it is true that Mr Radebe was second in charge, or had some kind of authority that had been bestowed on him by Mr Mabusa Mhlongo.