MR STANDER
Mr Chairman, if I may give you my personal view.  I heard my learned friend say that we are dealing with civil actions, but this is not the purpose of the evidence we are hearing here today.  I don't even, we have to refer to the Act.
	These assaults have already lapsed.  He was aware of the people, he could have brought civil actions at that stage.  The Police Act at that stage placed a certain limitation on this.  I don't think we are dealing with any civil actions, I don't think that is the case at all.
	I think we are dealing with people who want to come and say what happened and it is on that understanding that I put this evidence before you.