SIPHO JOEL SITHOLE
Yes, of course.  We never saw MK as (indistinct), operating independently.  We felt we were members of the communities where we are coming from.
	The resource base for members of the so-called trained MK operatives, were the same families as we were coming from, same communities where they were coming from.  I was coming from kwaMashu and then, that is where I belong.
	If anything happens in kwaMashu, then I have to be concerned.  In terms of training we mandated, I can quote one incident where we went to Umkababa with comrade Ian Phillips one day, at night, and then because we didn't want the people, those young comrades who were in there, to see us, but in terms of addressing them, teaching them of what is expected of them, then we were in a position to communicate with them.
	We say chaps, this is what the ANC demands of you, they demand discipline more than anything else.