MR VAN ZYL
I did not know.  What we did is we gathered the information, the available information relating to the hall, the use of the hall, the persons who met and held meetings at the hall, I processed this information to the Co-ordinator, who then sent it through, I suppose, to the information systems where it was confirmed and as a result of which I then received instructions to do a preliminary study.  So I cannot tell you whether the people that came there were members of Umkhonto weSizwe, or which organisation they were members of.