MR KNIGHT
Mr Chairman, if I might just add at this point, this statement that my learned colleague is reading from with regard to Mr Shabalala, Mr Shabalala never signed and denies ever having made, just for the Record.  So I don't, I just wanted to inform the Committee of that.  It would come out of his evidence and in fact if the Committee refers to the statement that was made by Mr Shabalala to the Attorney General's special investigative team, he specifically, on Page, I think it is 79 of the bundle, towards the end, I don't have the reference.