MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA
Thank you Chairperson.  I think that we are really encouraged to hear experiences such as yours in the face of so much inhumanity.  All the stories that we've heard from yesterday, in fact throughout our hearings, it is very encouraging to hear a story that shows the humanity of people, particularly in this country that is so divided with racial ideology and particularly from our history in those years which was clearly a history of us and them, a history that defined Black people as objects, not to be cared for.
 Now when you demonstrate the kind of support and the kind of humanity that you have explained to us, described to us today, it is really very encouraging.  You remind us of people like Bishop David Russel who literally laid his life down, he laid on the ground to prevent a casper and also people like Beyers Naude who served many years under house arrest for posing apartheid. Those people and people like yourself clearly show that there is still hope in this country and I just wanted you to comment on the belief both in this country and abroad that if White people in this country had campaigned and opposed apartheid in a strong way, we wouldn't be where we are today if White people had in their numbers opposed apartheid, not in singular opposition such as the people I have mentioned, then we wouldn't be where we are today.
 What is your view on that comment, what is your comment on that view?