ADV BOOYENS
No, that's not what I'm saying.   Mr Chairman, what I am saying is; the policemen are busy with an investigation where a man - they are investigating the possibilities whether a man has in fact been involved in breaking the political laws of the country.   So the whole matter has got a political colour.   Now in order to get results, because there is a lot of pressure from the politicians and from their Head Office, they commit a human rights abuse.   It's not everything, we are dealing with human rights abuses.   I am not suggesting that, to use a simple example, if a political detainee is refusing to eat his food and the constable who is in charge of him at the ex-police station gives him a smack; that would be a political act - that would be ridiculous; it can never be.