TESTIMONY_GIVER:
  They had their usual police pistol issue, which at the time I think was a 9mm Parabellum.  In the cars we had official shotguns, pump action shotguns, and an FN rifle.  But in the back of my boot of my car, specific car, I had a case at the time of 40 kgs PE4 explosive, I had a crate of Russian hand grenades, offensive and defensive.  I had Makaroff and Tokoreff pistols.  I had AK47s with ammunition.  I had time devices prepared - I think it was six - by Vaal du Toit from headquarters, for car bombs or any other explosions that I need.  And there might - oh, and amongst others were five HMK 9mm machine guns with silencers on, and on the side of it canvas bags welded onto it so it will catch up the empty shells.  I also a briefcase which was fitted 