CHAIRPERSON
4B/0 ... and first he said there was a van which was sent to Esikhaweni, and also they said they can't send any car, they need a car with bullet-proof windows, and they also said they will call Richards Bay Police.  I could hear cars outside but I thought they were SAP, only to find out they were ZP, and one of those cars it was the car that stopped for those boys who were attacking me.  That's when I saw one person getting inside that car.  I don't know whether that person was the police or one of the people who attacked my house.  I stayed there.  At about 5 o'clock I went back to my house to check Enoch, and I discovered that Msizi and the others came back and took him to another house for help.   Policemen didn't come until after 9 o'clock, when one policeman who was working for the special branch, who was with a white man, came into my house and he was with Khumalo, who was working with Esikhaweni Police Station.  I refused to give them statement because I knew they were going to do nothing about it.  They kept on calling me at work and kept on telling me that that case wasn't going to work because I'm relying on ANC and COSATU.  Those are the people who can help you.  I gave them a statement.  This is the statement which I gave them.  That's why I'm telling you there are other things which are not true, even though I've written this statement under oath, but some of the thing which are here are not true, because they were going to use whatever I've said against me.  After that we received information that those people who were there, they were in hospital at Eshowe, because at that time we also had people who were giving us information, or informers.  We also discovered that there was a policeman from KZP who died, whom they left in someone else's house and that woman from that house refused.  We followed them and our lawyers were helping us.  We found them at Eshowe.  We identified them because of that grenade that I threw on them and it blew on them, and the statements which they gave was not - they were different - different statements.  If I can tell you more where I'm coming with my family and I've also heard that people are asking from amnesty, I will tell you one thing that they killed my mother on the 18th January, my brother's son, my mother's house was burnt, my brother was killed last year, December.  That's where I'm coming from.  At the moment I am a secretary for ANC North Coast Region.