MR VISSER
Well, then Mr Ngo, I put it to you Mr Ngo, that what the Council dealt with was merely the murder of Mr Venter and that according to the papers certainly, which have been provided to this Committee, that is the only issue that was relevant at the time of the consideration of your indemnity application.  You did not, in other words, apply for all these other incidents.
	Mr Chairman, the reference is again to bundle C, and this time it is the last section, Section F and what we have there is a report of a hearing.  We haven't seen a judgement, but this is the report of the hearing before three judges, Judges Terry Steyn, Judge Mohl and Judge Solomon.