PROF MEIRING
Thank you.  Thank you for setting that straight.  I just want to ask about the children.  You were talking about the two children of your brother.  They were very young at that stage.  The one was five and the other one was a baby.  Today the oldest one must be round about 16 years of age and the other one must be round about 11, 12.  What are the two children doing at the moment?