JABULANI KHUMALO
As I said it before, I'm saying it again, that the repossession unit, specifically this one, let me talk about this one because I did add some general, general to other units as well that operated but in this particular case, this particular one, the order was that, that if they go for the repossession, whatever they attained from that repossession should be surrendered.  In this case the commander of that unit was Thapelo Maseko who in turn had to surrender to Msiki in Botswana.  I know Thapelo Maseko not only from 1990 but before that time.  I also quoted the name that you don't know, that was Lebo, that was his operational name to other areas, especially in our area in East Rand when he was introduced to us in 1989 he was Lebo and then he came and go to this operation and I think it was clarified, the only assistant that maybe you can require to me is that because there was a lack of corroboration if I understood the panel, to say that was a genuine political objectives.  I'm here to clarify that, that Thapelo Maseko was a member of the PAC a member of the Azanian Peoples Liberation Army and he carried the operation under the blessing of the PAC.  His mission was that whatever he gets should not be used for his personal gain but for carrying out this instruction but he had also the mandate from his commanders.  I will take it logically even from the PAC that as a commander you've got to use your discretion of how do you utilise the money if you're not, but you have to report it, whatever you take you report it.  In this case there is a standard that he created that R500 and more he will submit it and surrender but less he would not.