MR VISSER
May it please you, Mr Chairman.  Mr Chairman, may I very briefly, within a minute or two, just take you through the document, just to give you some feeling of the summary which we made.  If you turn to page 1, Chairperson, you will observe there references were made to what you have become accustomed to, Chairperson.  You will recall that in February 1997, when we first appeared before you, we handed in certain exhibits which we marked Exhibit P45, P46 and P47.  Well the applicants will simply refer to those without repeating the contents, because by this time everybody in this process must know those documents by heart surely.	And then the evidence of Gen van der Merwe on the dates upon which we have stipulated that, Chairperson, and that of Mr Adriaan Vlok.  Then one can immediately go to page 2 where we deal with the background and dimensions of the conflict of the past.  And basically what we have done, Chairperson is we have given, and we rely on the judgments which the original Amnesty Committee have given, which we specified in paragraph 6 at that page, and we deal very briefly, Chairperson, with first of all an extract from that decision in the Cronje case, at page 2 and we deal for as far as it was necessary, with certain aspects which had not been dealt with by the Amnesty Committee.  They really speak for themselves, Chairperson, and I don't intend to deal with that in any detail.
	It does refer to some evidence by Vlok and van der Merwe, which you'll find up to page 10 and then - actually 11, and then going on to page 12, Chairperson.  We deal in particular with some of the issues arising from the conflict of the past, more particularly the strategies and tactics of the ANC/SACP alliance, at page 13, which you've heard before.  And at page 14 we give the - if we may say so with respect, the accurate summary given by the original Amnesty Committee at the foot of page 14 over the page to page 15, Chairperson.  And then at page 16 we simply deal with the general position of applicants, which was also dealt with by the original Amnesty Committee. 
	So Chairperson very briefly, you would have recognised from what I have addressed to you now, that this is nothing new, it really is only a very, very brief summary of all the welter of evidence which had been placed before the Amnesty Committee before.  And we did this because of a decision of the Amnesty Committee, who said that it might be helpful if in future reference is made to those issues without having to repeat them.
	Now Chairperson, the real point about this document starts at ...(intervention)