MR SAMUELS
If my logic which I've tried to present, that this applicant should be heard on the basis which I've tried to argue and if this hearing feels that there is no substance to us bringing that application, may I ask that we still, I still wish to call this witness, call Mr Nkosi as a witness to explain two issues because it is important I submit: the question of the chain of command and what was the structure within the SDUs and how is it that people got instructions and what was the effect of the code of conduct.