MR KNOETZE
Thank you.  Paragraph 47
"The attack on President Lennox Sebe led to a revolt in the Transkeian Defence Force, in which those who were rebelling under the leadership of Major-General Holomisa, got the upperhand and took over the Government of the Transkei.  The new Government of the Transkei committed breach of contract vis a vis, the former ex-Rhodesians and evicted them from the country.  At that stage the Transkei Government owed the ex-Rhodesians approximately R6-million.
Paragraph 48:  It says that the relationship between the Ciskei and Transkei kept worsening and as a result of that the then Minister of Defence on the 7th of October 1982, authorised R2-million to conclude Katzen, to terminate it.  General Coetzee after this, paid out R2.225.030-million to the ex-Rhodesians, which money was provided by the Department of Military Information or Intelligence, and was paid for out of the Scraper Fund.  You were not involved here, so you don't have any knowledge of what is mentioned here?