MS THABETHE
My last question Mr Radebe is, I just want you to clarify exactly what you are applying for, because in your evidence you don't remember whether you were present when Ntombi Kubheka was abducted, you were not present when she was assaulted, you had no knowledge of how she died or when she died, you were not there.  So exactly what are you applying for with regard to her incident, because you were not there at all, the instances?