Curious about Liverpool FC situation
AFAIK gillet and hicks received massive loans to fund their purchase and they have not been keeping up the repayments so now the creditors own the club. Its like getting a car on the never never, or a mortgage, i fyou don't keep up repayments the credit company take back the car or the bank repossess your house. I am sure it is a bit more complicated than that in this case, but tbh I would be surprised if it was fundamentally different.  thats why RBS and the mill fininance are involved, they provided the loans, and are probably desperately keen to sell before going into administation, which would dock liverpool 9 points and reduce the value even more.
It's quite alright, it's been over a decade since he passed so I'm not particularly sensitive about it any more.  I'll have a look at investopedia, but what I'm mainly interested in is private equity. I wanted to ask directly about that, but I feel that I need a frame of reference to understand what's going on. As in, I doubt I'd be able to really get private equity without first having an understanding of public trading.  Is this subreddit really that reputable? I've learned to not really trust reddit, for the most part. Is there some kind of curation here? "&gt; Will the Trump base embrace and support this?    ... Yes.   I mean, is that really in question beyond just hoping?     &gt; who would have thought this would be possible in a country like the USA.   It really highlights how much of it all is ""honor system"", with assumptions that the people involved actually give a damn about the country they're representing.  Without that check in place, there's a lot of wiggle room.  Wiggle room that is a good thing in sane times with logical people involved who can use their best judgement." "Hi all, just doing some homework which is evaluating a soccer clubs accounts using ratios. We have to include a paragraph on suggesting ""non financial appraisal"" for the soccer club. Anyone any idea what this could mean? Thanks" "This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/19/16314082/nfl-ratings-colin-kaepernick-los-angeles-rams-owners-money) reduced by 94%. (I'm a bot) ***** &gt; The simpler and also boring systemic problem with the NFL that might actually explain something is its success, and how that success made the ownership class in the NFL fat, lazy, and locked into a business model they have no real reason or incentive to change, even with falling TV ratings.  &gt; An NFL owner no longer needs that to continue to boost the value of the franchise using anything that happens on the field.  &gt; If you see an NFL franchise as just another asset to be maximized and squeezed for every dime, being good at football - i.e. producing a good product - doesn&amp;#039;t matter.   ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/715fxw/the_nfl_is_being_devoured_by_its_own_economic/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ ""Version 1.65, ~213083 tl;drs so far."") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr ""PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome."") | *Top* *keywords*: **NFL**^#1 **product**^#2 **league**^#3 **value**^#4 **franchise**^#5" The news is sort of out there, Its just very local but will affect neighbouring countries and prices if the winter hits hard. Im just thinking that because I only see it being picked up by local news (in the local language) that maybe not all investors on the energy market are aware yet.   There are so many more obvious news that affects the european market that investors would trade on currently (ukraine etc..) that I dont think they are following local news in a foreign language Spoken like a true realist. Personally I don't mind, it's not like this sub is stacked daily with a page of new posts. If you don't fancy reading about someone's career pains, you don't have to read it.    Edit:shitty phone keypad typing + beer It depends on the firm. I was interviewing with a few PE firms a few months ago, and the structure can vary. Some were definitely just LBO shops where the bulk of the staff were focused just on the deal. I remember a couple, however, that placed a lot of emphasis on getting in-house after the deal and performing what ultimately amounted to long term management consulting. These firms tended to hold companies for like 10+ years iirc. It sounds like there might be options out there in line with your passions, you just need to be pretty picky with the firm you join. I only remember one firm's name off the top of my head, but I'd be happy to pm it to you if you want to do some more research yourself. Protest opinions aside. Will taking this away from the team's actually help?  The article mentions rent payments they make. Are they actually renting space he owns or do they subsidize it as a sort of here's some extra money type thing?   According to the article excluding what they call rent payments leaves about 12 million. Would the economic stimulus from that not out weigh what they would get from cutting him off? Sounds like Haier’s up or out policy where they fire the bottom 10% after performance review coaching. Ruthless improvement culture. A bit sad but perhaps it's just the fact that they've coordinated it. Does anyone know the average annual turnover for a company of that size? Be interesting to see how this falls in line with new rules on data protection in the EU (and probably more relevant, the UK as it's maintaining them after Brexit..).  Some of the data being held may well not be shareable without consent and if someone turns a spotlight on banks sharing data it could get quite ugly quite quickly. Al-Jazeera is a bit more complicated as they are state-funded by Qatar, but Qatar has a more complex internal power structure than Putin's virtual domibance if Russia and a far more complex regional situation having recently become ostracized by its neighbors. Again, plenty of decent articles but the real agenda is not necessarily journalism. Qatar, like Russia, very much wants to be considered a peer of the rest of the developed, primarily Western, world. Unsurprisingly, the next two World Cups (of football/soccer) of 2018 and 2022 are scheduled to be held in Russia and Qatar respectively. So news media is just one tool of this push for influence and soft-power. Not surprised.  This is on the back of several news stories of UK Businesses' complaints about the company. The now infamous stories of how a business was overwhelmed by customers, how the deal was poorly structured, and the most damage revelation that there is rarely an increase in business post-deal. "&gt; What's their performance been like in recent years?  IIRC the last time they were able to pay a dividend was in 2000, so I'm gonna go with ""not great"".   Thanks a lot for the effort, I didn't factor in tax at all, it makes more sense then. I still think it's an interesting concept that shares are worth less than what you ""get"" for them (according to their accountants, who knows what the value actually would be if you tried to sell whatever they own now), and I found basically nothing on google. The whole is usually more than the sum of its parts, not (significantly) less." "No one is quite sure what happened (yet).  Speculation includes: The interesting thing is that Procter & Gamble stock got hammered, as did Accenture.  Both of which are fairly stable companies, that didn't make any major announcements, and aren't really connected to the current financial instability in Greece.  So, there is no reason for there stock prices to have gone crazy like that.  This points to some kind of screw up, and not a regular market force. Apparently, the trades involved in this event are going to be canceled. Edit #1: One thing that can contribute to an event like this is automatic selling triggered by stop loss orders.  Say someone at Citi makes a mistake and sells too much of a stock.  That drives the stock price below a certain threshold.  Computers that were pre-programmed to sell at that point start doing their job.  Now the price goes even lower.  More stop-loss orders get triggered.  Things start to snowball.  Since it's all done by computer these days something like this can happen in seconds.  All the humans are left scratching their heads. (No idea if that's what actually happened.) Edit #2: IEEE Spectrum has a pretty concise article on the topic.  It also includes some links to follow. Edit #3 (05/14/2010): Reuters is now reporting that a trader at Waddell & Reed triggered all of this, but not through any wrongdoing. Edit #4 (05/18/2010): Waddell & Reed claims they didn't do it.  The House Financial Services Subcommittee investigated, but they couldn't find a ""smoking gun"".  I think at this point, people have pretty much given up trying to figure out what happened. 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