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certainly that doesnt preclude you working on layer three

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feeling of connectedness and union

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range of affect

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divine

loc3

compassion joy and love

loc3

to be really functional as opposed to location two layer three

loc2lay3

self referential thoughts continue to go down

loc2

so i can feel for example centreless untouchable and presence i do not feel joy but i can i can feel a lot of stillness

lay3

only reality just unfolding

lay4

youre deep in location two

loc2

fluidity and the highly sensitive person high absorption you know sort of sense is what im

loc3

i need to work and no decisions need to be made

loc4

changes in goals and motivation and expanded sense of self are more present moment focus

loc1lay4

the sense of time seems to be fading like past and future seem irrelevant

lay4

it makes sense that lets say what you mentioned around food and as recognizable feel to it id almost say but again right now it doesnt seem to me like in in the celestial like more the inbetween and but still eat meat but im quite picky to the feel of it and and but the same with anything actually so in that case like that i recognize what you say and there is a sex drive but and how can i describe that its like a little bit with like with thoughts right now like um my testosterone levels are normal and i can see that doing things in my body but its like this this distance i can see things happening moving in the body but its not me if that makes any sense

tfw

synchronistic unfolding

loc4

ability to report on the unfolding

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vastness

lay2

do you stay at sort of more of a dominant place of layer two

lay2

a sense of stillness is always deeper as you deepen in that direction

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theres an assumed sense of agency in that i can make a decision i can decide to do something and do it

loc2

but if not like the usual like in my daily life its more like layer one

lay1

pan psychic

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no lines just horizons

loc1lay4

layer two or and i have had like particularly in gis like a feeling of fullness almost like something thats about to burst or an excited anticipation or potential

lay2

not really it feels pretty full it feels more full

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you know some of the things in terms of location two

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that resulted in participants reporting a sense of

loc2

it yeah it feels its like the space between objects between main objects and the that that things objects are thing that space yeah and if i go a bit deeper when ive been doing like a deeper meditation i get to a point where its there is the center that im like the center

lay2

this is as far as you can get away perceptually from the experience of the mind and also from the experience of and association with the body in location 1

loc1lay4

seems like a different kind of stillness than before like this is the real stillness i mean its just one thing after another after another after another um that makes me think you probably have landed in a location four less

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had no more voice in my head and lost all sense of agency motivationpurpose because everything was fine

loc4

theres more silence in my system in location two

loc2

deepening towards location 3 will result in eventually reaching a point where negative emotions are only rarely experienced

loc3

but the vibrancy and the richness and the aliveness and fullness and all of that are qualities of layer three those really fall away layer four

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this single metaemotion itself is a near constant experience and companion at location 3

loc3

location 3 has love that tends more towards the latter

loc3

no possibility of anything beyond it or any thing being outside of it

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only single positive

loc3

like a combination of impersonal or divine

loc3

location five effects would be more like seeing inner luminescence to things

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layer one is going to be very present and subjective experience and you know the quality

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location 8

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the nonduality the way it showed up

loc2

um lets stick those aside for now and lets stay with sort of the spacious emptiness thing and also some of the location two qualities

loc2

layer 2 is accessible in location 4 although it is far from the default and is usually experienced from a deeper layer

loc4lay2

this notion loses all meaningthere is no inside and no outside no locality or reference point at all

loc4lay4

sense of merging

loc3

but if you say do you have emotions and they say no then not surprisingly you inquire into the major components of location for do they have a sense of agency do they did they ever have a divine or panpsychist sense and if so is it gone

loc4

the love joy rich qualities can show up in layer three

lay3

two is something like a sense of spaciousness or a sense of

loc2

unity or oneness of two different types

loc2

perceived is as an allpervading unmoving luminous field that is both the source of experience and which experiences everything

loc2lay3

sensing glitches

loc5+

and youre using the method that gets people to location four so think you can safely take that to be location for what pulled you out of it

loc4

and also layer three

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the disappearance of the presence and all of that

lay4

so we dont really spend time talking about the layer two center

lay2

laying on of hands healing days

nfw

at that point thats out of reach in all likelihood unless somehow you come in at a lower layer in location four

loc4

layer one is interesting because theres like the active thought with the words the narrative in the head

lay1

layer four of location four

loc4lay4

and so thats another practice that you can just keep doing you know see exactly how deep you can get into stillness on the times when youre sick and tired of trying to widen out the aperture or look at what else might be happening just sink into stillness

lay2

commonly perceived all of these layers

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and so thats a deeper experience of both or of layer two than just directly experiencing it

lay2

im pretty sure youve been past location six so lets see where how far out you might have gone

loc5+

i do but its but its very sort of quick and quick and its

lay2

in location 1 layer 4 learning transcends books and classrooms life itself becoming the greatest teacher

loc1lay4

that i dont know how we deserve it and its not even a deserved thing but its there for all of us and its so its so astonishing that im just in awe and in humbleness and thats so thats part of that echo of that experience on mt sinai comes through thats what im thats whats coming through when i receive the eucharist and its not even an echo its pretty strong sometimes

lay3

intelligence behind it

loc3lay3

layer 3 can remain accessible in location 4 though usually only the deepest centerless aspects of it

loc4lay3

probably it would have been associated with maybe union with the bliss or something like that

loc3

complete simplicity

lay4

alone

lay2

returning to layer 1 perceptually for its functional properties can be appropriate and practical at times and in a fluid system where a finder has access to more than one layer access to layer 1 does not need to compromise access to the deeper layers

loc2lay1

sensing the presence of life and everything rather than feeling like you are all of it or youre pervading all of it

loc3

but that is in fact our default state of being at least my default state of being for decades possibly yours too if you werent always in fundamental well

nfw

the thing the thing to keep in mind is that for a system for a layer four location four especially but youre sort of close enough you know youre like a hair away from the thing type system what reading those books will do is basically prime you basically primes the system

loc4lay4

darkness

nfw

your love for your wife

loc3

the experience of it can go in the direction of deep stillness and peace which can have very little affect and appear similar to location 4 or the experience can be infused with joy love or even a sense of sacredness or divinity which might appear more similar to location 3

loc2lay3

have positive and negative

loc1

and in essence what theyve talked their system into doing is having a new habit pattern you know take over as the baseline for where attention is fixated which is why when they can lose fundamental well being and all that really means is their attention is going back to and fixating back on the old habit patterns that they had of the individualized sense of self

tfwp

the richness that appears when you experience the eucharist or sink into those experiences you also have those dimensions of layer three to sink into

lay3

im there is just a much stronger sense of awareness and its much easier to get distance from from thoughts when im when im not really doing anything like i would like i would go sit and chat with a friend

lay2

location 2 as form of nonduality

loc2

just the space

lay2

its like im kind of feeling the room that im in for example like literally actually kind of feeling it and theres a sense of ease and and the liveness and and also you know if i relax my perception ive been able to do this for ten 15 years one day it just happened in a moment you know if i relax my perception it feels like im seeing waves of energy so in the room and kind of just perceiving that around people or just you know just looking straight ahead um so i feel like on different levels perceptually im kind of picking up on things there as well and that doesnt feel empty it feels quite full in that sense yeah

lay3

funny

lay3

layer 3 has a quality of allpervading fullness and beingness it tends to be difficult to access within location 1 and the experience typically remains temporary and shallower than at other locations

loc1lay3

looking through my eyes

lay2

im not in fundamental wellbeing

nfw

senseless

lay3

in location 3 subjective experience tends to default to layer 3

loc3lay3

might not seem true at all in location

loc4

youre here now youre in fundamental wellbeing

tfwc

experiences of layer two you get the the spaciousness and you also get a sense of emptiness

lay2

location for

loc4

so you have a situation where you have you know very early on maybe at age two and a half three and a half four something like that had some motor learning occur or had some sensory processing skill develop

loc5+

its quite unusual for people to really get out of layer one in location one

lay1