  ::: This is a strange argument:  ::: If I understand you correct, you are saying that rifle shooting and engagement for peace don't match and the BSA are uncivilised. ::: Could you please explain why this activity is un-Scout-like and why the BSA are uncivilised. I've the strong feeling that you take an anti-american position - so it is not your interest in Scouting that leads your work here.  