`  :I've been too busy to take part in that debate, but I see that this has in any case been pre-empted by User:Kotniski who has created and populated the ``:Category:Constituent countries of the United Kingdom``. In my opinion this is unacceptable as  ::1) the debate mentioned by Dai is still in progress, and ::2) the new category name has the rejected term ``constituent countries`` and is therefore contrary to a decision reached after a long discussion and contradicts the main article's name (Countries of the United Kingdom) and the term found in most other relevant articles.  :Personally, I don't see why Wales et al should not be categoried as 'European countries'. I am certainly against this unilateral reversion to a contentious and rarely used term that has been rejected here. I'm also somewhat suspicious as to what is going on here. This all started as the results of edits by a ``new`` contributor, TDSDOS (who seems remarkably familiar with wikipedia editing and terminology) whose few edits thus far are mainly concerned with the status of the three countries of Britain (and a bit of Ireland). Then we have the unilateral creation of this category. Am I the only one who thinks this is more than fortuitous? Be that as it may, this new category is not acceptable and a consensus decision would also be needed for the logical alternative, i.e. 'Countries of the United Kingdom', if the need for it is proven and accepted.   `