  ::I would like to further clarify that the edit which I made yesterday was totally outside the issue of ongoing disagreement. I made sure of that because I wanted Wolfkeeper exposed. I knew he would delete it, yet is was a very carefully thought out example which ilustrates both centrifugal force and Coriolis force perfectly.  ::Now what has happened is that Itub and PhySusie are trying to justify Wolfkeeper's actions and in doing so totally contradicting what has already been agreed.  ::They are behaving like school children and I would simply lke to know if this is he best that I can expect from wikipedia. Do the administration ever sort these cliques out or do they generally side up with the cliques out of fear of large numbers?   