`, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!     ==WikiProject Mixed martial arts== Ever thought of joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts?  I noticed you have lots of MMA related edits.  We are now taking suggestions for the new MMA article improvement drive,  please add your input to decide what the first collaboration should be.    :I probably should get around to joining at some point. I don't think I have the time right now to contribute much to the article improvement drive, but I keep my eye on several MMA-related articles for vandalism, nonsense, etc. I'll probably throw my name in the members section.    ::I'll second that, your contributions show you've made a lot of positive edits to MMA-related articles. Keep up the good work!    :::Fine, fine, if you're gonna twist my arm...in a kimura...   == Adam Copeland ==  There is a move discussin going on at the talk page of Adam Copeland, I thought you would be interested in it.    == Great job! ==  ...catching that linkspammer and reverting vandalism in general. Have you thought about trying out Twinkle? It makes vandalism reversion much easier, and also streamlines warning users.  . at 01:26, September 12, 2007   :Looks interesting! I may have to check that out...    == Arbitrary revision reverting ==  If you are going to reverse a revision that has been researched and well crafted, be consistent across the board.  Compare content with other similar entries which are considered acceptable, then rethink your actions.  Read the Muhammed Ali, Fedor Emelianenko, Chuck Liddell biographies for examples of what is considered relevant information, particularly regarding fight descriptions.  Make changes to all of those wiki entries if you feel that your standards should be universally accepted.  :Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I'm sure Tuckdogg will get around to cleaning up those articles too. . at 20:17, September 25, 2007 :: is correct, at least as to the Liddell/Fedor pages. Chuck hasn't been on my watchlist, but I think I should add him.  :::I've copied the MMA portion of my watchlist to  for your use... just visit  and paste at the bottom... there's probably a few leftovers from other topics though. . at 00:41, September 26, 2007 ::::Holy friggin' crap, dude! Suddenly my watchlist doesn't look so insanely large!   == Tim Sylvia's Page == I was the one reverting edits to Tim Sylvia's page. As one person pointed out, putting his website info about autographs could be seen as advertisement so it's best to keep that out, but as for the rest of it I still think it should be put back on the page. The info I reverted it to seems to be general consensus among anyone who is not blind. As it stands, leaving that specific information out would seem like a POV edit by someone who is a Tim Sylvia fan. What's your reasoning for removing that info then threatening me with a ban (which someone else already did)?   :Response on user's talk page.    ===UFC 79=== The Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva fight was set for UFC 79 on December 29 and will be played on DirecTV as per various articles and their own website. That is confirmation tha fight is happening. What your are looking for is an offcial annoucement from UFC or the fighters. Wikipedia ia here to share information. While I agree with you that rumors and speculation should not be on here, big news like a cable company announcing it will carry the fight is something worth sharing on wikipedia and is validated information with references to back it. There is nothing in wikipedia that says we need an offcial annoucement from UFC to list the fight and post on on the UFC 79 page. All we need is confirmed verification that the fight is taking place and we have that with the DirecTV article. If you are waiting for UFC to offcially annouce the fight then why are there 4 or 5 fights listed on the UFC 79 page? The only fight officially annouced by UFC for December 29th is Matt Serra vs. Matt Hughes. I don't know why you are being so strict on here that you want to keep confirmed and reference articles out of the pages that will be read by fans.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by     :As per the topic started on the UFC 79 talk page...umm, yeah, that's exactly what I'm looking for. The standard for including a fight is an official announcement from the promotion. If there is none, then a statement from one or more of the fighters confirming that the fight is officially signed will do. Barring one of those, there is no official fight. If the fight is not official, it is rumored. If it is rumored, it doesn't belong on the wiki page. Period.   Well then why don't you delete all the other fights that are included on that listing? The only fight that has been confirmed by UFC itself is Matt Serra vs. Matt Hughes. All the other information about the match ups from UFC 79 where brought from 2nd hand websites that have nothing to do with the UFC company itself reporting the fight will happen. Why does my information about Liddel and Silva get deleted when at least the DirecTV people have something to do with the UFC and they said the fight will happen. How do 2nd hand websites have more credibility then DirecTV saying it will carry a fight? You come check all this stuff and basically have no standards for what you are taking out and leaving in. You take out valid information saying it's not official but leave other information that has not been officially announced either? If your gonna make moves like taking out big news that has a reference and valid information (which I believe is vandalism)then at least do it evenly so there is consistency on what is on the page. You can't have many different pieces of information with similar references backing them and then go and pick and choose which ones end up on the page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by     :Check the edit history on the UFC 79 page. Myself (and others) have been editing the crap out of it, keeping unofficial fights off of the page for weeks. Those fights are on there because they are now officially signed, and the reference articles confirm it. Kongo/Nogueria was announced by the Fight Network, and confirmed as signed by both camps. Clementi confirmed that Joe Silva told him his fight was officially on the card, so that's good. :All the reference articles say reflect that those fights are officially confirmed from official sources, either the fighters themselves or from the UFC. The reference articles for Silva/Liddell say nothing of the sort. They mention that a graphic was posted on the DirecTV website, and then was taken down. They are then ``SPECULATING`` (<- note the magic word) on what exactly that means.