` ::::I think this whole argument is because, in my case, rather than reading every single guideline, I learned ``notability`` from lots of individual articles. I noticed which articles were kept and which were deleted, and how much referencing an article needs to be at least C, B, GA, A class, so on. I also noticed, the vast majority of lists have little or no referencing, which contrasts with your argument in ``other stuff exists``, that some things exist that shouldn't. In this case, then, 90 percent of lists shouldn't exist, because they are not suitably referenced.   `