 2010 (UTC) Please remember that the murders included gay german men, possibly some lesbians. communist, poles  even nuns and priest too and a few other groups. There are two groups that want you to remember the holocoust their way ,which is black white only. The united state way is from the allies invasion and the vicitms of hitler only and the german side remembering the victims only and denieng the past. Well Seeing germany classic films like leni riefhenstals Olympia ,I had not seen triumph of der will, started to ponder to me if all third reich cinema was Ilsa she wolf of the ss only type films. I live in the united states and the censorship problems are mainly on sex and nudity in the arts only. So propaganda films are legal to sell buy own and posses as well as the hollywood side of the nazis, which I discover later on as a serious classic film fan fetish.Hitler has a strangle hold on germany in spirit and other countries, As a result has reversed the dictatorship. not one german citizen can express any critisism of what the government does.They can't address greivenses. They are afraid. The government  has the holicoust museum and the conscentration camp tours and allows citizens to look at photos of dead bodies and allows hate classic like our birth of a nation to be distributed in their country and not conscerned that this might influence the rise of the third reich again. Yet they will fear that old propganda film classic will turn the citizens into hitler. Remember looking at the conscentration camps and gas chambers and those poor souls dead bodies believe it or not are no different than looking at a negative propaganda film ,cause you are looking into the ugly past. For Me to remember the holicoust is to look at the whole story,Not just the black n white but every thing in detail. This idea violates both sides. Now being democratic not Democtrat if you want to express dissent against what I do.  Go ahead I live in a free country, with some problems.one thing, i learned even though goebells banned swing and Jazz , it went behind his back and he was a hypocrit about this. In order for jazz to survived it became a gray market. Swing bands were disguised as dance bands with fox trot music. Band leaders like corney orester, Curt widman, who was harrased by the gustapo police now and then, cud fantix , tulio mcbiglio ectra, were playing openly in big citys of berlin and hamburg, Record shops were taking risk of selling american swing records with frank sinatra and tommy dorsey they might of gotten in the black market right in front of the gastapo eyes. Of course if you were caught listening and owning american records they did put you in a conscentraiton camps. hypocritcally goebel send these now fox trot bands to the front to entertain the nazi soldiers. In switzeralnd you had a radio station that would play legally american swing music. Soldiers having two way radios would be listening to this as well as their own bought swing records durring breaks than radio shows like wunsconzert or euqally.very distrubingly Even gastapos would turn and eye and allow conscetraion campees to form their owns dance bands and have dances. whats really bad is that possibly it could of been used as a type of last supper. I listen to many of the german swing classic music including charlie swindler. I listen to his songs striclty for laughs. Goebels allowed swing  and jazz to be in some of the movie musicals of the time like Hallo Janine ectera. I also have a collection of german classic films that I watch sometimes. Two mild propaganda movies like wunsckonzert and die Grosse liebe. I also have negative propaganda classic jud sus. the rest are some titles with henz ruhmann and marika rokk and some more zarah leander and johann heesters, who was still active on the stage until he got glacoma. I forgave him when he blurted out on a dutch show that hitler was a good guy. if he was in germany he would of been jailed. His wife jumed on him too about.He should be 110 by now. I have also have forgiven all the cowards who didnt take a stand or who felt they couldnt do any thing about it ,espesially  those into he film buisness who wern't member of the nazi party and were just using germany for thier career or who were german but stayed away from the nazis except to get their pay checks. I have forgiven those actors who were a member of the nazi party too because they though it would help their career. This might of been the reason why Magna Schneider actress divorced Actor Wolf aulbach Rettty, the parents of Romy Schneider. This also might of been one of the reason romies movie  career in the united states failed.so I know the whole story atleast  almost all of the understanding of the holocoust.I seemed to have more of a psycological bacholors degree in german film culture of the past or atleast it feels like it. the vicitms side , the allies side , the supporters and those who gave up and were cowardly side. I also have for