` ::It depends on interpretation, of course.  Hkwon believes that, when reliable sources say ``Kimchi is a fermented food,`` that implies all (or at least the vast majority) is fermented.  I am actually almost inclined to agree with him, in that the authors, speaking from their contexts, intended it to primarily mean that kimchi is, by definition, fermented.  However, I also believe that we have reliable sources that speak against that, including some of the same sources that state that kimchi is fermented food.  That is, I believe that 1) reliable sources disagree, and 2) some of the reliable sources are less than precise in their wording.  As for your second statement, you're asking for an impossibilityno one who believes kimchi is always fermented is going to explicitly state ``There is no such thing as unfermented kimchi.``  For example, no source states ``Chocolate made from kimchi does not exist.``  You can't say that something does exist simply because no one asserts that it does not exist.  I think it will help if we focus on what the dispute really isa dispute on 1) how to interpret reliable sources,  2) a dispute on which sources are reliable, and 3) a more fundamental dispute on what to do when most sources seem to state one thing but a measurable number state something else.  Personally, I still believe that the answer to that is a compromise wording, as discussed above, but perhaps the Mediation Cabal can assist us.  The only reason I haven't brought this to them since Hkwon mentioned it is that s/he said s/he was going to, and because if he doesn't see the need to do so, I think we already have consensus.    `