` *Still oppose.  It is by no means just a Catholic issue.  The doctrine was upheld also by, for instance, Calvin: ``Calvin echoed the old dictum of Cyprian: extra ecclesiam nulla salus (outside the church there is no salvation)`` (Bagchi, The Cambridge Companion to Reformation Theology, p. 122); ``Certain of Calvin's remarks, in fact, appear to indicate that he considers integration into the institutional Christian church a condition of human salvation: extra ecclesiam nulla salus`` (Dennis W. Jowers in Van Der Borght, John Calvin's Ecclesiology: Ecumenical Perspectives, p. 50); ``With Calvin, the patristic principle of extra ecclesiam nulla salus remains firm`` (Philip J. Lee, Against the Protestant Gnostics, p. 68; etc.  Nobody has proposed a merger: it is because reducing to a vaguer ``Salvation outside the church`` title the precise ``Extra ecclesiam nulla salus`` reference to a dictum/doctrine/dogma would seem to lead to such a merger that Richard opposes the proposal.  In books written in English, the dictum is usually quoted in Latin, just like habeas corpus, carpe diem, gaudeamus igitur, magna cum laude, sede vacante, Index Librorum Prohibitorum, veni vidi vici, caveat emptor, Pontifex Maximus, nunc dimittis, Et tu, Brute, imprimatur,  E pluribus unum, ad interim, ad libitum, rigor mortis ...     `