`==Added...==  You arenwo on my Yahoo list. Lets be civil.  As of December 26th.   Not interested. I don't have yahoo, and have no inclination to discuss Acharya's wiki page with you privately.  {But yo will s,mear me publiclaly. You will ioe, distort, and harrass.  DOnt you think it woudl be best to end this nonsence?You foudn out I administered a Christain forum and  tried ot use that agaisnt me. EVen thouhg it contians nohtign of this debaucle. You even tried ot make me out tobe a Creaitonist. You arnet intereste dint he truth, and ar ea Hypocrite. You say I smmear Acharya, and you defend the truth. You use the sametactics you acucse me of, and the whole CHristain rleigion of. You lie to defend your hero as she advocates beelifs you wish to promote. THus, it wudl be better to olve this as Genglemen, and not as the coarldy attacksyou have made. }-Zarove  ==Teh Point.==  Zarove, I don't have yahoo, and I see no reason why you feel the need to discuss this with me privately. Everything you've brought up below can be discussed on the talk page. As I've said, I may drop by the Christian Forum once this is resolved.      SHorter vewrsion.  1: After this si resolved whats the point? No one theireven knows of this fiasco.  2: You used my administration their ito show Im biased. I am a Zealoted Christain. This was a shameful tactic. Its absicllay ``Guilt by association.`` It sbad enough Im labled one of Holdigns followers.Yopu even tried ot prove I was a fidny by linkign me with creationism.  At the same tiem you decree any attmeot to examine Dorothy as `` Smearing her.`` I didnt msmear her to dicredit her. But you smear me to discredit me.  Nothign in my own past reveals any bias, and Im toelrnt of all views, but nto all condict.  3: As you refuse to bother to listen to reason, I want ot see if I can one on one discuss the matte with you.   No other reason.   I edited my own apst message to make it more tot he point to what I itnended.  The last one, thogh not written so, cna be seen as Harsh.     I will add yo this weekend. Please allow contact. Ithinky uo will fin ditfruitful.   Re: ``I didnt msmear her to dicredit her.``   If not to discredit her, then why?    ==Now.==  As I said. Letsbe civil and discuss thematter in a live chat. I think you will fidn that mroe ocndusive.  Given your current artilc eis a whitewashofher, I do think a better option for you, before yourbanned as a troll, is to tlak to me.  Ill be waiitng. Unless you alloew me to add you.    Sorry, not interested. I don't see what the point would be.    ==No rellay working.==   The difficulty onthe talk page is yor blatant willignness to decieve others abotu me usign the same tactic you claim I use againt Acharya. You claim that I am a covert Zelous Christain wantign to defame her, and you merley wish to defend the truth. We both know this isnt true James. You want peopel to beelive her ideas and are willignto do anyhtign to make her seem as imprsive as possibl an rmeove all oposiiton to her vies.  My Chrisytaintiy is sued asa blundgeoon. You make it osund as if I oppose Acharya base don my faiht, hate her, and vehemntly opose her, and htus want ot attakc her. You then claim the aritlce is written in sch a way that it attakcs her. No spacific exampels of attakc are shown gowever.  I can assure you, nothign ithe article that is the current ocncensus among the general posters ( As oppsoed ot the Acharyans) is derogatory towards her.  But yo wish to rmeove the links ot CHrisyain rebuttals and all critisms.  If Dorothy wants to attack Chrisgaunity, why has she then no supply of courage to stand up to their rebuttals?  Midn you, Im not th eon makign suh a rebuttal. THis is WIkipedia, and I am ever midnful fo the need tobe Unbiased. Thoughyou will nto accept hat form me.   This is why I think talkigto me on Yahoo woudl be mor eocnductive. Uou would not only getot know me,but also ge tot have liv interaction.   this wya, we can easily discuss, in real time, any and very issue.   The baords you wher invited ot to demonstrae you rown abyslam lack of undertanidng baout both Christendom, and myself. My invovlement on that baord shos how open midned I can be,a s itsamonght emost inclusive baords you can go. THe invitaitonstands alays, butthe raon I want you their now is to demonstrate how little bias their is.   I have fairly rtepresented Mromons, Catholcis, and Jehovahs witnesses. I haveeeven defended Elpidio and MyMindCore when they are misrepresented.   Alternate beelifs that disagree with me are discussed, not shunned. But what I have low tolerationfo is misleadignpeopel.  DOrothy is not a Historian, rleigiosuscholar, linguist,or archeologist. NEither is she anyhtign of particular note in academia. This si a fact, not a disparagy.  Her primary claim to fame is her wbsite and correlated books.  This makes ehr as I am. A proffesional writter, not an acadmic. (thoughIm enerign Acadmia.)  Likewise, As noted,and as you cansee for yorselfif you rmeove the filter, nothgin ibthe articl condmens her.   It is nto my way to condemn beelifs. But her acitosn, and yors, are condmend. You attemot to coerce Wikipedia into complaince to present an image that she desires presetned. This cannot stand.   And htus, my invovlement. After all, it is my article.  Zarove/      ==James reply==  **forgid me for a minor edit. Wan tot keepthis orderly so moved yor reply.**  Zarove,  I think our differences are best discussed on Acharya's talk page. Perhaps I will drop by the Christian forum when we're done here.  J    ==Invitation.==  It is perhaps best to direclty spak. If you have Yahoo messenger, Id be glad to discuss our diffrnces.  I think that, once tou becoem better aquainted with me, you will see that your objecitosn rent as solid as you owudl beleive.  Again, also, theiris a standing invitaiton to The Christain FOrum.  You may psot their. We have Ahtist, Christain Yahwists, andnayhtign elseyou may like. Its open to all.  But I will extned an invitation to Yahoo messenger. If you have htis device on your PC.   My address is Zaroff3.  ==TO JAMES==  It is clear that you and Acharyas other disiples ar eliek her in many ways. Willign to lie, manipualte,and distort to get your way, and quiet willign ti exagerate, and use Ad Hominim attack, while at the same time projectign this on others.   You omit ( Forno reason) the life informaiton, whichis acutlaly the most impotant and yet underdeveloped, aspect of the aritlce, and remove the Critissms. The Critisms are because you want her views presente dunopposed. Ihave no idea why you dont liek the life informaiton, excpe thtat itsirrelevant for the soread of your beleifs.  And htis is the core of it. You want her to look as brilliant as possible. An accredited schoalr, a Historian, linguist, religiosu shcilar, and archeologist.  You want others ot mock me for my claims ( WHich I have acutal accredition for) abotu beign a Physics major once, a Journalist, and other thigns. Yet, I didnt even brign these up, you sdid. I acutlaly do hodl a Masters in Jorunalism. I rellay did work at a paper. I rlelay do now work as a researchder. I did take a year and a ahlf of Physics courses because Im interested. But neither is relevant here.   Now, rather than smear me, which is only a ruse to silenc me so you can gain contorle over the aile and thus write it to your mistress's satisfaction, it pwiudl be more hoenst if you left is alone. I asusre you Im nto a covert Christain operative, and the aricle was nto wrtittn to smear her. As evidence, read the aritcle withotuthe Acharya FIlter. No part of it condmensany of herviews, and hasbeen subjected to numeous peerr reviews here at Wikipedia.  I didnt concemn her for her advicationfo Entheofgens for instance. ( DIspite hr own misrepresentaiton that the artilce did.)  Liekwise, my own Christainbeelifs arent as fundamentalist as you present. Look athte baord soemtimes. We have Elpidio. Hes a Christyain Yahwist. Thusfar he's denied the Virign Birth, claiemd Jesus is not God, and removed books form th cannon fo the Bible, whole adding soem other books. He's an administrator, just liek me.  We have MyMindCore. An athiest. And a Moderator.  The beelifs are varied their and we tolerate all views. This of corusedoesnt serve your ends. So just clal me a Christain fundy out to desotry Acharya. Lie for your mistress. COmmit the same crimes those evil Christains did to desotry Paganism in ``The CHrist COnspiracy``.  Hypocracy runs rampent, and I grow tired of it.   If you want the truth, then why not create an EZ Account and post on the CHristain FOrum. If you are respectful and kind, you will find a wlcomed plac to post.Otherwise, yo iwll not.The only faovur I ask isthat you do not mention Wikipeidas edit war. I have dileberatley doen the pposit of you. I did not clal in reinforcements, and do notnee