`  :: So I need to get every editor who has ever edited the article to agree with any change I want to make or you will revert it? Okay. I had assumed that anyone who actually cared about it would have it on their watch list and have responded sometime in the last 5 weeks to the original discussion, which so far is unanimous in rejecting the label ``alternate present``. So, how many months do I need to wait? If you actually have an opinion on the merits of the edit, other than who made it, why not discuss it at the article? I have no idea what you mean by ``what is has been marketed as``. When was it ever marketed as ``alternate present``? There is no citation for that label. It's just what one editor sometime ago wrote. Let him defend it if he cares.   `