  ::::That does not mean anything. Seek consensus before making extensive changes.    ===WP is not a place of advocacy=== Andries, please note that WP is not a place of advocacy of any kind. If you want to advocate against Gurus and warn the public about the dangers you see, or to tell your personal story, you have all right to do that but not in WP. Get a website or even your own wiki for that. Thank you.  