`:::::William Thweatt wrote above: ``it will revert to the pre-discussion version,`` and now suddenly ``The state of the infobox prior to the current discussion is totally irrelevant``.  What happened, seems you didn't like the pre-discussion version which proved to be with, not without 681.  If there were debates on 681 in the past, they took place not every day, month or even year.  There were years of stability among them based on some agreement or consensus, and the last such years of stability before the present discussion featured a version with 681 included.  So you cannot discuss 'the inclusion' of 681 but its removal for which there is no consensus. Let's not repeat the above discussion all over again, that's what I'm saying.      `