` === Break === While I don't like to do lengthy posts, but I hate to remind editors of civility matters, but its getting a bit much. I do take offense to Ryulong's comments that I ``forced a closed in my favor``. Aside from a personal attack, this couldn't be further from the truth, the consensus was obvious at the VPP RFC and Ryulong who was in the distinct minority should refrain from baseless attacks. Secondly, I object to calling the previous work on the DBZ page 'unsourced crap'; the content may have been unsourced, but it was not incorrect. The Japanese Wiki is similar to what English wiki once was, and much of it still exists in some form at the wikia. Now, perhaps I may have misinterpreted the silence here, but Xfansd when the policy matter came up you commented that it would have spared a lot of hassle from the get go. Silence can be misleading, especially in circumstances where the previous consensus reasoning has been noted as being on a false premise and the objections to the current RFC were based on that stance and the number of !votes exceeded in support. Allow me to state some topics. I believe  a split for WP:DETAIL would be in order considering this page is a franchise page. Dragon Ball Z has a lengthy history, mostly in America, and I can think of no better way to cover the important history of the development and production by providing a proper page on Dragon Ball Z as a whole. Many important things are left out and not covered at all. Dragon Ball Z is intricately tied to western audiences, after the failure of the original Dragon Ball, at what point does it deserve an article on its merits? Since I'm in the numerical minority, what are your concerns and how can I address them?   `