 My point is that by not announcing the RM we were not learning information that people like that had to offer. When the RM was finally announced on the 14th it was closed less than 48 hrs later, before I had had a chance to review the discussion and make suggestions, along with other more thoughtful editors. The reason I say it invalidates the process was proved by the fact that additional information was added. Here is what I do not wish to do. One, reopen a brand new RM, two, take this to ANI. Therefore I am asking that the RM be held open for four more days, until the 21st. I think that is enough to bring this to a closure. The idea of starting and stopping and starting and stopping and starting and stopping an RM is not good, but it is probably the best choice available.  