 The propensity both you and Doc have to  reframe discussions  in the direction of COI, and over several years, through COIN complaints which didn't amount to anything, an arbitration where COI wasn't shown and in my case from the very first interaction I had with you, is truly remarkable. If I'm  not comfortable having information that is sensitive, posted on this page, I can say with certainty I am  not comfortable discussing it with you off Wikipedia. Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll wait for the movie.:o)(  ) :