`  == Birth/death dates ==  As above, we need reliable published sources for these dates. (Be sure, of course, that we aren't merely arguing about new style/old style dates too.)  If a family Bible, commemorative plaque placed by persons unknown or whatever give a date, we really have no use for it. This goes to verifiability (which we are here to report), rather than truth (which may or may not agree with what can be verified). -   `