  : yep, I said in my summary that that was it for now.  I do tho' have a big issue with Laurance and others making this MAJOR CHANGE (controlled drowning) without consensus.  I believe the article should stay at the pre-Laurence's halloween edit, until a new consensus for change is established - thus far I simply don't see that. As such I contend that I am not making major changes - but preventing (and reverting major changes until a consensus is achieved. Obviously with 2RRs I am backing off for others now as we don;t want to go back down the war road.  