` ::The F-14 was designed as a dogfighter first (VFAX). Including the Phoenix AWG-9 did not compromise this capability in any meaningful way. Other approaches such as the F-15 would see things differently, but that in no way affects Grummans design decisions. The F-4 was designed as an interceptor, not a dogfighter, but was found to be  the best dogfighter DOD had overall (F-8 had better kill ratio,  but was due for replacement by F-4) during Vietnam       ==Hornet Mafia, Article Deletion Nomination==  Hell, this term even appears on this Wikipedia discussion page.  An article has been created defining this term, and subsequently nominated for deletion by purists who have identified him/themselves there.  If you believe that the concept ``Hornet Mafia`` is as real as ``UFO sighting``, or if you believe that WP should not have an article for anything that isn't the the Brittanica, please participate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hornet Mafia  `