`  Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!  -    :Thanks very much for the welcome message.    ::No problem - we always need more help here on Wikipedia! Before you remove or swap any more images on aircraft articles you should probably have a read through Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aircraft/page_content#Images. -    :::OK, thanks for the pointer.    ::::If you are going to be working on aircraft articles you may want to join us at Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft. We have a very good group of editors there working to improve the existing articles and write many new ones each month. We can always use more help!-    :::::Thanks, I'll probably pass on that suggestion - not only am I constitutionally not much of a ``joiner``, but aircraft articles are just something I think I would work on in passing, rather than as a concentration.  (My son is into Microsoft Flight Simulator, so I come to aircraft articles in response to his questions and suggestions.)If it turns out that I wind up working on more of them than I expect to, I will definitely reconsider your suggestion.  Best,     == Revisions of Jeff Manning ==  You have a new message on my talk page.     :Thanks!     == Re: Swine flu ==  I'm running Mozilla Firefox v3.5.5 on Mac OS X @ 1440x900 px.    :Your new try doesn't exhibit the spacing problem like before. I still think the centering is less readable personally, but I won't quibble over it.    ::(responded on talk page)     == Pinewood Derby ==  This is an article about the Boy Scouts of America. In addition to standard style guides, the official BSA style guide Language of Scouting is also used. The name pinewood derby is in lower case except when referring to a specific event. This is in line with other major style guides. -—    :I'm not sure how the Boy Scout's style guide is relevant here, as we are not a Boy Scot site.  ``Pinewood Derby`` is clearly a proper name, and proper names are generally capitalized  I think that takes precedence over the Boy Scout's style guide.Can you point me to a discussion in which the consensus has been to use lower case in this instance? Thanks.     == Please, do not disrupt an article ==  The Thong (clothing) article needs a lot of improvement anyways. Let us not hinder the process by putting sub-sections in ungainly places, and move the pictures about in in ways that disrupt the page layout for no good reason. If you feel strongly about anything, please, discuss on the talk page.  •   :Disagreement is not disruption, so please tone down your rhetoric.  The article was a mess, both visually and textually, and what I did improved matters considerably, although I agree there is more to be done.  As it stands, the article has similar material in multiple places, and it has absolutely no flow or logical structure.  I'm not going to revert your misguided reversion of my edits, but I will point out that, generally speaking, it's better to be a contributor to a halfway decent article than it is to be the ``owner`` of a poor one.  Stewardship of articles is an important, if usually unacknowledged, part of the Wikipedia process, since it protects articles from vandalism and edits which don't serve it well, but stewardship works best when it grows out of an understanding of what works and what doesn't work for the article, which I do not believe you have demonstrated by your reversion.  Certainly, any specific choice that I made in visual layout or article structure can be discussed, and I labor under no delusion that what I did was perfect, but it's also apparent that in toto what I ended up with is quite a bit better than what was there before, and is there now due to your action.Do as you wish, though, you've now laid your claim for stewardship of this article, and the shape it's in is therefore a direct reflection on you and your editing abilities. Let it be on your head.Please do not respond, I'm not interested in further discussion, and as I don't plan on editing the article again, discussion is pointless.     == Betty Logan ==  Thanks. She has been a problem, showing up on someone else's specious Sock puppet investigation filed against me here. The other party even listed her name as a possible sock for me. This is ridiculous.     == WP:INITIAL ==  I hadn't considered your reasoning. On the other hand, I think the language of WP:INITIAL is probably unintentionally inclusive of what post-nominals can be listed. I have asked a question at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies)#Post-nominal initials, should you have any interest.   :Thank you  I'll keep an eye on it.     ==Apology== I may have deleted references on this page Battle of Hamra al-Asad as part of a series of parallel clean ups. Rodney J Philips was published by AEG a self publishing scam company. His website is pure conspiracy crap. Definitely not a RS or Notable.   ::Rodney Phillips is only a critic of islam. his view is valid. if the publisher is crooked then it dont mean the author is not reliable. see here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Muhammad_and_assassinations&action;=history sorry. heres the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Muhammad_and_assassinations :::Thank you, I will look at that discussion.     OK, unfortunately that discussion is non-conclusive, as it's basically a few editors arguing their point of view in a ``yes it is / no it isn't`` fashion.  I would suggest that all parties cease adding or removing content sourced to Phillips to all articles until a discussion has been started at the reliable sources noticeboard and a consensus has been found as to whether his work, and that of AEG, is reliable enough to be used on Wikipedia.    :In the meantime, please do not refactor comments on this talk page.  Thanks.     Thank you very much. i will try doing that. i didnt know that existed Comment added by  at 15:34, 1 January 2010