 *No one has said Freedom or Death isn't a traditional motto (whatever that means). This is characteristic of Shadowmorph's approach to his sources. The only person to discuss the idea has been himself.  *I will say, however, that we have no evidence that anyone (aside perhaps from tertiary list-mongers) except Shadowmorph has ever called it a traditional motto . *In order for something  to be a verifiable piece of information, we require a reliable secondary source. For the third time of asking, where is it?   