` == Coat of arms ==  Someone's added a coat of arms to the article.  However, I believe that they are in fact either personal to the emperor (and thus belong at Holy Roman Emperor), or more likely are just for the Habsburg monarchy.  Can anyone either confirm or contradict this?   .  Silverhelm is right. These coats of arms is one of the Emperor (if the year given 1605 is correct it is Rudolf II) including lands not belonging to the HRE (Hungary, Croatia). The crown is the ``Rudolfinian house crown`` (created by Rudolf II), It was used by the Emperor at state occasions (the Imperial crown was only avaiable for the coronation) and in 1804 was declared the Austrian Imperial crown.    == Ottoman Empire ==  Why does the article as-is make no mention of the Ottoman Empire, who was probably the biggest military/economic opponent of the HRE in the 16th and early 17 c., when both were at their largest and most powerful points.  Just a suggestion for possible improvement. - unsigned  :The Habsburg Empire is not the Holy Roman Empire.  The latter was most certainly not at its most powerful point in the 16th and 17th centuries. Some mention of the Turkish threat in the 16th century would likely be appropriate, though.    fair points - unsigned  Wasn't the Holy Roman Empire at war with the Ottoman Empire during Suleiman I's reign? I don't see any mention of this in the article.    == News: German Wiki Notice Board ==  Since it is much needed, I created the Wikipedia:German_Wikipedians%27_notice_board. I am not a German, and (so) it needs people of the German wikipedian community to bring it up to scratch. -  (')    == Why was the Dutch line removed? ==  Might I ask why the Dutch translation of ``The Holy Roman Empire`` removed?   Dutch* was just as much a language of the Holy Roman Empire as high german and low Saxon (the latter is not included btw.)  * Dutch has been traced back to the begin of 5th century.  We also must not forget that the ``German`` part in the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation does not refer to Germany or specifically the Germans.During the age of the Holy Roman Empire till far in the 18th century ``German``  did not exist.In fact the English variant of ``German`` in German was Dutch'  (compare Deutsch'') and it refered to every native speaker of a continental west germanic language.In other words anyone living within the present day countries of The Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Switzerland or northern Belgium.  I would especially like to receive a responds from  who reverted my edit.     :The same material is repeated later in the same article along with several other counterparts.  It is good style to try to avoid overloading the first paragraph.  Further, I can nearly be certain that ``Heilige Roomse Rijk der Duitse Volkeren`` is not how they spoke ``Dutch`` in the 5th century. For that matter, neither is ``Heiliges Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation``. –   :: That is true Kaihsu about the Dutch and German in the 5th century but the Holy Roman Empire lasted well into the modern era (early 19th century in fact) and for the last few centuries of its existence modern German was the dominant language of the ``empire``.   So then why is german mentioned in the beginning of the article?!    German is and should be mentioned in beginning of the article because modern High German was the dominant language in the empire for part of its history (late middle age, modern era until 1806). Before this period Latin and Middle German, a predeccessor of modern Dutch and German, were the primary languages. Modern Dutch was never a language of the Holy Roman Empire as the Dutch left the HRE before modern Dutch was standardized. The empire was, especially towards it end overwhelmingly German speaking and that language dominated the politics and culture of the HRE for centuries.  That Sander is why German along with Latin is mentioned at the start of the article. Dutch on the other does belong in the list of successor languages.  (