` :::: ==Re: question posed to Shell about my comments above==  Re: a question posed to Shell over on her talk page: I did not say that Shell advised me to delete comments made about the block or the Sept. 5, 2008 AN/I from my current talk page; I said that ``upon the advice of Shell``, which she made to me, not to continue the discussion of the AN/I on my current talk page, that neither should anyone else be doing that on my current talk page. I explained (in this section) that I would be at first editing out (using < !  /  >) and then deleting any comments made subsequent to the blocking of me by gnangarra/garra. (They are still visible in preview mode so that people who posted them can copy and post them as comments to Shell, e.g., or in a pertinent not closed AN/I, which they are free to re-open if they wish.) :See ``NYScholar issues revisited`` (archived discussion): instructions are in the top of the archive box; w/ the closing administrator's Gnangarra/garra's Conclusion/Summary.  The directions say that if one wants to engage in ``subsequent`` discussion of it, one needs to start a new page at WP:AN/I.  My current talk page is not for that kind of discussion. :(cont.) My point: If I can't discuss the AN/I on my talk page, neither can others continue to do so on my talk page. I do not welcome further comments about it (since I am restricted from replying to them by Shell and the current blocking administrator's block), and, therefore, I will delete them.  To continue to place them here, on my talk page, is, in my view, based on what Shell has advised me about my own comments, inappropriate. :(cont.) Re: views about the current block by Gnangarra/garra:  people can contact the blocking administrator Gnangarra/garra directly to comment on the block one way or the other.  But one does need to keep in mind that it is a violation of WP:CIVIL and Wikipedia:Etiquette to lobby for blocks of other users who are not engaging in any currently blockable behavior (as I am not). :(cont.) See WP:BLOCK for policy; blocks are not supposed to be punitive; they are supposed to be preventative.  I and Shell have questioned the validity of the current block. Scroll up to unblock request(s). :(cont.) If unsure, people do need to consult the links provided in my #N.B. section above, which will go to policies and guidelines relating to commenting on user talk pages. :(cont.) At Shell's request in the AN/I (at end of archived version), she asks people to contact her directly if they have specific concerns about my editing in Wikipedia done after the closing of the AN/I, as she is currently my mentor and is trying to guide me to have better communications with other Wikipedians in talk pages particularly.  Please see the end of the now-archived closed report via WP:ANI.  Thanks again.     :My current talk page is also not for debating Gnangarra/garra's (in my view and that of Shell) unfounded block of me (my unblock request explains my view of it); if you have your own views about the block, please communicate them on Gnangarra/garra's talk page or on the talk page of the last declining administrator , not on my talk page, but please be mindful of WP:CIVIL and Wikipedia:Etiquette, or you yourselves may find yourselves blocked (!).  Lobbying for (or perhaps even against) blocks of me on my talk page (or elsewhere) is, in my view, uncivil and a violation of Wikipedia:Etiquette, and I will delete further such discussions from my current talk page.  I am not currently editing Wikipedia because I am blocked from doing so.  I don't want also to become blocked from my own talk page.  If people make personal comments about me as a contributor, I will consider them potential violations of WP:CIVIL, and I will remove them, as per the policies already linked in my ``N.B.`` section; please read it.  Thank you.       `