  This discussion is a little silly. If people seriously want to learn more, they should try reading first, and only then posting questions. For example, the main article lists this book, which should be more than enough for any casual enquirer into the various matters (the title of the book says it all, imho):  ::(excerpt from article) Lying About Hitler: History, Holocaust, and the David Irving Trial by Richard J. Evans, New York: Basic Books, 2001, ISBN 0-465-02152-2: The author was a major expert witness at the trial, and this book presents both his view of the trial, and much of his expert witness report, including his research on the Dresden death count.   