`  :Is there any way to objectively measure influence in matters of personal belief? We are discussing beliefs (ie ``strongly held opinions``, to use a Krishnamurti definition) not facts. Think before you answer. Then you will see why the ``Influence`` section as well as the ``Criticism`` section are useless and non-neutral no matter what you do, since they are basically opinion polls - whether they be ``academic`` or not. :In the particular case though, you left out the second part of the opening: :``Krishnamurti's lasting influence is hard to gauge in an objective way; there is no organizational or other entity based on his ``philosophy``, whose progress can be measured`` :Since there is no entity whose membership or importance in world events would explicitly imply direct influence of Krishnamurti all we can have are indications, not ``objective gauges``. The Foundations and schools were specifically set up by Krishnamurti as NOT to be such entities.`