`  -Thank you. That clears alot up for me and possibly those who stumble across this.  I have contact some of the ``Reputed`` members of the process and they are interested in making an underground online forum for The Process.  Too bad the process.org is still down.  If there was to be an underground forum, do you think there should be some cautions?  I read a small excerpt I beleive from William Morrison that process.org was a possible target for government hacking.  I dont know of the dangers or the views of ``the MeAN`` but I dont think its that big of a threat because collectives like TOPY and people like Ogre and others aren't dead.  In my opinion either this hasnt happened because if they were somehow mysteriously dead, then members would have figured out why and there would be a big scaffle.  Or they dont view it as a threat.  What do any of you think?  -HyperPsonik23`