` ::::::::::  I was stating the truth as I see it, as do other editors.  Sometimes what we say you are not going to like, but that is the nature of editing in Wikipedia.  The truth as I see it is that it is very hard to define terrorism satisfactorily as the wiki article clearly demonstrates, and that is a truth which is inconvenient for this article is what I meant.  I said human rights abuse was a better reference than war crimes, not that terrorism is a better reference.  I was not promoting the term terrorism, I was simply saying that one of ISIL's defining characteristics was that they are terrorists, which is not quite the same thing.  You really must to stop regarding editors' comments that you don't like as derailing tactics, Greg.  They are editors'  honest opinions in the majority of cases and they are not intended to derail anything.  My views on anything will not affect my editing now as I said before, I am going to concentrate on copy-editing.  I have no more stomach for the endless squabbles.  My long comments on terrorism yesterday were made with no thought at all of  how it would or should end up in an edit.  I just wanted to make the point that I thought ISIL were terrorists, full stop.  I took the question to the Talk page so that editors could decide where to put the reference.  As I said, I got sidetracked when you said ISIL were not terrorists.       ::::::::::I don't know what has happened to the terrorist designation placement.  I put it back into the ``Criticism`` section after the muddle caused by Legacy, which he freely acknowledged, and it has somehow got back to the top again.  Another of my restorations after the muddle got knocked out as well.  I have just restored that one and will now restore the terrorist designation to where it was in ``Criticism``.  Maybe Legacy did it by accident when he was trying to restore some other edits, I don't know.  It is quite hard to sort out the mess when someone edits onto an old version.  WE once did a sterling job of sorting out one such mess.  ~   `