`  ::::: Yes, I know you think the discussion will have a neat and tidy ending with everybody going away with exactly the same opinion, but that isn't how it works.  Making a new policy on Wikipedia is often a matter of lots of different people changing their editing practices.  Now you can use these rather nasty words like ``pre-empting``, ``usurping``, ``vandalism`` as you did in one edit summary, and ``antiwikisocial``, but they don't actually mean anything. You edit, I edit, and we'll see what happens.  `