 ::I'm still in the middle of changes & refs will be added - most continues to come from Jones & Penny. We shouldn't be reffing an article like this from newspaper articles, boiled down from press releases.  As it is being expanded considerably, most of the original will inevitably be lost, especially from the Roman section. I think all I can do is complete my version & then we can discuss - ideally in about a week. Is that ok?