 * DGG is a good person. His take on most things is very different from mine, but his heart's in the right place and he's a good editor and admin. I don't think I've interacted with Fences&Windows; much, but he seems intelligent, and someone who likes Naomi Klein can't be all bad. I guess what I'm suggesting is to cut them some slack and just let this die down. There aren't really any bad guys here, and everyone's time could be better spent doing... well, pretty much anything else. ''''''  