` :And if you cared to look, you would see I brought up Vergina Sun at Fut.Perf.'s talk page before telling him about Abecedar. Incidentally, it was also before your accusation of Kobra85 as well. Note that I have also been accused of being Frightner - in the name of blatant POV pushing on the part of that now banned user, so excuse me for being sceptical of your motives. '''''' `