 (UTC)  ::No, Goths are Goths and Moshers are Moshers [metallers in my day ] although there can be a level of overlap. A mosher will be into similar music - may even listen to the same stuff but doesn't necessarily wear the gothic scene clothing. With this light, I'd never call it Neds vs Goths [or Moshers] but instead neds against the world. They go after other neds after all. -  13:01, 18 April 2008