`  Comment The reason why some people will vote ``Don't Move`` and then suggest a move to another title is that they are voting against ``Designer Games,`` which is the subject at hand, and suggesting alternate titles which are in more general usage. They are not objecting to a move per se, just a move to a term that is not as generally accepted as others. The reasons proposed for this particular move are not germane. All of them address reasons that the proposer believes why these game should be called ``Designer Games`` but do not provide any evidence that the term is the most used, or in fact, is in much use at all. Citing a foreign term and then suggesting a translation of it is not a particularly good reason in the absence of evidence that the English term is actually being used and especially there are other terms in general use. If there were an equivalent to www.germangames.com or if there were citations that several merchants were using ``Designer Games`` as a category, that would help bolster the case. As it is, even those that have championed the use of the term, such as Erik Arneson of about.com, have more links to sites that use the terms ``German Games`` or ``Eurogames`` than use ``Designer Games.`` This ``What should we call these games?`` controversy has been around for years in the hobby, getting debated in forums such as the Spielfrieks Yahoo group. The term ``Designer Games`` has never gotten enough traction to become an accepted title. No matter how well some think that it does to describe this sort of games, the fact is that it hasn't made it. It has been proposed and rejected. If Wikipedia is to be a site devoted to reflecting things as they are, and not how some wishes them to be, the legitimate titles to choose from are ``German Games`` or ``Eurogames.`` ``Designer Games`` just isn't a factor. Whether or not it would be a ``better`` title is entirely irrelevant. PSauberer `