  == Discussion on links/sources provided ==  I think I provided more than enough sources and links that show the Ramdasia's are Chamars. The sources are books written by british authors 80-100 years ago, research papers, Indian constitution and official government of India websites.  If anyone disagrees, please post here with valid (& reasonable) arguments with verifiable links.  Please answer these questions: 1- Why would three books (see above for links) say that Sikh Chamars are known as Ramdasia? 2- Why would so many research articles (see above for links) write that Ramdasia are Sikh Chamar? 3- Why do all official Indian Government websites state that Chamar & Ramdasia are the same?