`  == Matt Drudge: Habonim ==  Malik: I understand that Facebook is a tricky source to rely on. In this case I am pointing to a discussion group for Habonim-Dror Camp Moshava alumni with first-hand, primary-source knowledge of Matt Drudge's attendance at the summer camp. The discussion thread underway in Facebook includes numerous anecdotes and photographs of young Matt at Habonim-Dror Camp Moshava. This is primary material from numerous sources. What more could you ask for? I can assure you that this would be good enough factual back-up for the New York Times to run with it. Yes, it's true that there seems not to be any reference on the web currently to Drudge's summer camp attendance. But why in the world would this be considered better sourcing than a half dozen people who actually went to camp with the guy? I can't figure out how to upload an image otherwise I'd show you a screenshot of the discussion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by   •     :Perhaps you're not familiar with Wikipedia's core policies, WP:V and WP:BLP. Facebook is never a reliable source, even if a person named Matt Drudge posted on the Habonim Dror alumni page saying that he was a member. —  /   Malik: I get that Facebook would be a bad source. But Facebook is not the source here. The sources are multiple individual alumni of Habonim-Dror Camp Moshava who are confirming that Matt Drudge was, in fact, a camper at Mosh. They are backing up their claims with photographs of Matt Drudge as a young camper and numerous anecdotes. Unlike you, these sources are using their actual names and identities and can easily be contacted to verify. What is the problem here? Has Drudge complained or asked for his name to be removed from Wikipedia? I do not understand why you would make an issue of this when there are a number of other un-sourced names on that list. Unless Drudge is personally objecting, this seems like a very strange fight to pick. Were you a member of Habonim-Dror or are you knowledgeable about the youth movement's history? What is your particular source of authority to edit the page? BTW... I will just add that the bullet-pointed list was a very nice touch! That's way better. So, thanks for doing that.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by   •     :Please read WP:Verifiability: ::In Wikipedia, verifiability means that people reading and editing the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. Wikipedia does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of its editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it. (Footnote omitted.) :Where is the previously published information concerning Matt Drudge and Habonim? The experiences of his fellow campers just don't count as reliable sources in the Wikipedia world. —  /   ::And my ``authority`` to edit the page comes from my ability to research and read sources. My interest in the subject, which is a separate matter, comes from my having been a member of Habonim (before the merger). —  / `