`  ::I have tweaked my request to be more clear on that point. interestingly I was composing a note to you which got  with your message above. in the aNi, you discussed 1938 and said that was prior to the holocaust. I do not believe that is the (universally) accepted definition. The holocaust often taken to be more than just the ``final solution`` our own article on the topic goes significantly into nuremberg laws and other repressions happening in the '33-'35 range. In this sense, I was using Holocaust to mean ``the whole of negative actions taken by the nazi's against the jews`` and not referring specifically to gassing/cremation/etc. (Would this be helpful to clarify in my unblock?)    `