```, and it is only in this context that the second/third sentence make sense. When one doesn't know this, everything after that first sentence appears to have nothing to do with the first sentence. After all, the second/third sentence make rather plain that there is nothing very angelic about Leviathan.  ::This ``special`` 1612 use of ``Seraphim`` is not compatible with the general understanding of ``Seraphim``, nor would Michaelis' work be considered even remotely ``reliable.`` And the out-of-context OR disqualifies it for use in the article on Leviathan, leave alone on Satan. ::     :::Like I'd said, I'm making no arguments, just taking guesses. I'm not knowledgeable on the subject, and I just did a quick search on the subject to see why such a tag might even be added. On a side note, this source appears to note a few cases of the association between Leviathan and an angelic origin. Just to note.    ::::oh, yeah. I wasn't disagreeing either. Only pointing out that that passage can't be used to infer that Leviathan was a (fallen) angel, and - not being in-context - can't be used for anything related to either Leviathan or Satan.      :::::Very true. As I've mentioned, however, the above source does seem to oppose Zillakilla's claims on the issue in two examples (perhaps more; I'm tired and don't care to read much). Once again, I'm not actively arguing, but making a point to note.    :Technically Leviathan is probably more accurately described as a pagan 'God' or 'Goddess', rather like Baal or Belial. If you look at Egyptian magic there are many obvious correspondences with Satanic spirits though I don't know if there is much formal witting on this - anyway Leviathan might be linked with Isis. There are obvious comparisons between Satan and Lucifer and Osiris and Horus and the great pyramid, an even more obvious comparison is between Set and Jehovah (Jehovah's main function for the Egyptians was to bring disease and death). :Another completely separate link is between Leviathan and Tiamet - described as world serpent or world eater. Leviathan is a huge sea monster (ie whale) but she is one who is killed by man or God and because she is eternal (a god) this happens again and again. Other tales/suggestions tie Leviathan to the serpent in Adam and Eve, the fish caught and killed by Jesus, and as a friend of Lillith. The 'definitive' reference for Leviathan is The book of Eden, which is one of the lost books of the Bible and is regarded by some as the 'true' Satanic Bible.     == In Islam: Adam and Eve section. ==  This section remains in the article for reasons I do not understand. Not only is it poorly written and largely unreferenced in the first place, but it is also misplaced. The information detailed in the paragraph is really too specific to be relevant to an article on the general concept of Satan.   In comparing the sections on Christianity and Islam, it's clear to see that the Islam section handles the topic poorly, suddenly moving from an introduction to a pointless narrative that really just wasted space. It does nothing to elucidate on the concept itself.   The story is relevant to the concept, but it shouldn't be placed here. As it is, the narrative is already covered extensively on Iblis, which the section refers to at the end in a somewhat corny manner, in my opinion. I think that this section should be deleted; at most, the information within this body should be condensed to no more than 2-3 sentences. Is there a good argument for the inclusion of this extensive narrative?  For now, I am deleting the section for the many reasons mentioned above. If anyone somehow prefers that version, revert me, but I'm fairly confident that most will agree that a better replacement would be a general overview with a short mention of the relevant narrative.    == Natalie Pavlatos ==  What is this? I've never heard of this before in my entire life: ``Natalie Pavlatos (شيطان) is the equivalent of Satan in Islam.``    :It is apparently a case of vandalism by  that went overlooked for days. ([[User talk