 :: An unusually measured and thoughtful discussion. I agree with pretty much every point made, even by those who advocate having an article anyway. Summary: it's complicated. If this was a shoo-in (like Don Murphy) then we'd have an article, end of, but this is not half such a prominent person. So yes, it's a very mature discussion and I would not have any problem pointing Ms. Turner to it either, which is not the case for some debates.  () 