` ::::Hmm, that's certainly not my experience. As far as I can tell, as a Liberterian you are supposed to pay lip service to those, while more-or-less blindly believing and repeating extremely simplified and bowlderized phrases as if they were the last word from above. ``Conservative`` is no longer a useful label in the US, as it includes the space  from  John McCain via Pat Robertson and Chuck Norris to the Idaho Potato standing in for GWB if a sentinent life form is needed for presidental duties. And I say that after thinking myself out of a L. Neil Smith induced phase of Libtertarianism.... `