Flight Crew Flight Instructor; Flight Crew Flight Engineer; Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP); Flight Crew Instrument; Flight Crew Multiengine
Flight Crew Last 90 Days 95; Flight Crew Total 7000; Flight Crew Type 2500
Situational Awareness; Training / Qualification
Deviation / Discrepancy - Procedural FAR; Deviation / Discrepancy - Procedural Weight And Balance
General None Reported / Taken
Aircraft; Human Factors
Not all C182's are created equal or looks can be deceiving!!!We departed MMH with full fuel in a C182T carrying 87 gallons of fuel and three adults. In other 182s that I have flown including my personal 182; that load would not pose any problem.Compared to other turbo charged aircraft I had flown it seemed a bit sluggish on climbout. However; it was a cold day with no turbulence and we were able to climb just fine to 11;500 feet.After a 2.5 hour flight; we made an uneventful landing. I grabbed a photo of the aircraft weight and balance and was stunned to see the difference in the weights between the 182s made in the 80s and the 2013 182 that I was flying.I did a detailed comparison between this fixed gear turbo 182 from 2013 and a retractable turbo charged 182 from 1982. I was always taught that the retractable aircraft would weigh more (due to the mechanism) than a fixed gear. That is clearly a [saying] that is not always true.The fixed gear empty weight is 928 pounds and the retractable empty weight is 1;085 pounds. In doing a detailed weight and balance; not only did we perform a significantly overweight take-off (by about 100 pounds) and we were not in the envelop for take-off. Fortunately; by the time we landed; we had burned off enough fuel to land within the envelop.OK...key learnings...just because an aircraft looks like an aircraft that you are familiar with DON'T ASSUME. Second key learning...ALWAYS do a weight and balance...even if it 'looks' like the load should be OK.
C182 pilot reported discovering after the fact that the newer aircraft weight and balance was considerable different from the older model aircraft.