Large Transport; Low Wing; 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Crew Last 90 Days 200; Flight Crew Total 11000; Flight Crew Type 300
Communication Breakdown; Fatigue; Training / Qualification; Workload
Deviation / Discrepancy - Procedural FAR; Deviation / Discrepancy - Procedural Published Material / Policy; Flight Deck / Cabin / Aircraft Event Other / Unknown
Flight Crew Became Reoriented
Environment - Non Weather Related; Human Factors; Procedure
Line Check Airman (LCA) doing IOE. Planned 15 hour duty day with 10:30 flight time. Due to maintenance issues at the trip's start a rest plan was not briefed. 1:30 into first flight; I called cockpit to ask LCA rest plans. He advised I would be sitting in back all day. I advised him IOE trips were crewed as such to give LCA and student a break and flying the whole mission did not meet intent of FAR. He agreed to rest; but only did so for 1 hour. Subsequently; at an intermediate stop after the student being in cockpit seat for about 8 hours; four legs and on duty 13 hours; the IRO suggested to the Captain that he occupy right seat and student be relieved. The LCA insisted he would be flying and the student would occupy seat as pilot not flying. I then asked to speak to LCA privately and raised my concerns of not only the student's position of such a long day and pressing him to keep flying; especially since he had two well rested qualified first officers ready to fly last leg; but also the fact that instruction was mentally fatiguing and in the interest of safety he should fly last leg in non LCA mode. At first; LCA was not receptive; but through strong CRM and using uncomfortable [language]; he changed his mind but told me I had to write a letter to the Chief Pilot through him explaining why I made this stand. In the interest of schedule with safety; I believe having a student occupy a control seat in excess of 8 hours is not only unsafe but breaks the spirit of the FAR requirements to augment over 8 hours and then not utilize them.
A Line Check Airman (LCA) with a student and two relief pilots did not want to have either himself or his student relieved during a 15 hour duty day with 10:30 flight time. A Relief Pilot contended a FAR violation occurred so the LCA acquiesced.