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spec: That was my own personal view , and , to a large extent , I agree with that opinion . We will send your comments to your Representative and your Senators . It is a problem that sometimes poisons our debates , and it is regrettable when that happens , and I would acknowledge that both sides - - and I take personal responsibility for my part in this - - sometimes poison debate , because we do , by virtue of the fact that this is to a significant extent a class-based , sociodemographic representation that we enjoy here , work with disproportionately more poor people in our ridings than the Conservative Party does . Mr. Reid : I am not going to let this pass , because it is this government that has been in office for the period of time that we have seen the worst reduction in rail jobs , I believe , in the history of this province . We were , and I think all Manitobans were outraged by the presentation to this committee of a package of amendments late in an evening and the demand that this committee consider such complex issues as the elimination of provision for a strategic partner , the reduction from 15 to 10 percent of any individual 's holdings , as the minister has outlined this morning , many complex pension issues . We are not conquered . However , developers make mistakes even when appropriate languages and well-designed tools are available . To the extent that the general partner was so deemed , you would aggregate the shares over which it had control . How do I gather that and how do I present it ? And the tale he tells has another moral for us . To the first group , Grisez has an answer honed for years by his philosophical training and teaching : if morality is a matter of truth that can be articulated , it is thereby a matter of public discourse . So , please , do not communicate that , but I do think that is a good process . I am willing to justify one and see how that goes . Who 's going to know , anyway ? Deference should be made to the process and to the committee report . In terms of Library and Information Science at ECU , what are we teaching ? There are some truths that have emerged . Huge sums were fraudulently charged to many credit cards in order to acquire an armory that would rival that of a National Guard unit 's ; ammunition in an unbelievable quantity was acquired ; paramilitary uniforms and gear were purchased and created by Davidian seamstresses ; firearms training and fortification of the Compound took place ; the leader preached sermons to motivate his " army " ; and finally preparations for the ambush of February 28 were completed . I wish I knew too .. 71 - 544 , 1971 - 2 C.B. 227 . United States Information Agency . As I pointed out in my introductory comments , the Law Reform Commission report on which the process is based was very clear that it is appropriate that the Legislature be able to vary the recommendations and make the final decisions . Mr. David Newman ( Riel ) : I felt I must , as a member of the legal profession and also a member of the Legislative Assembly as a professional parliamentarian , I just want to make clear for the record , in response to what Mr. Mackintosh said , that the process which has existed in Manitoba prior to even the introduction of the advisory committee was consistent with the requirements for judicial independence established by the Supreme Court of Canada in the Valente case . It was this government that brought in the reduction of the fuel tax and got absolutely nothing in return . Absent , some clear absence of logic in the lack of reviewing the circumstances and the different arguments , the report should be given deference out of respect for the process and for the overriding principle of independence of the judiciary . They keep our tongues wagging .