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spec: Would such companies to be deemed to be not at arm 's length , even though they are not related directly , and therefore for any tendering or other business purposes would not be deemed to be at arm 's length for legal purposes ? ' I could not believe myself . It could result in a disrespect for those very judges . I would just make the suggestion for future bills , and I know we are dealing with some other bills that are coming up fairly soon . ) To miss this point is to fall into the error of " situationalism " ( another object of sustained critique by Grisez over the years ) . My father and my mother . When he did not , he was arrested . Our sorrow , your gain . You must assume it can happen and be in control when it does . The gave you the formulas they used ; they gave you their methodology ; they gave you their references to CRTC .