how long did this take for you guys ? <| sep |> We have two , and neither of them are expected to be starters . <| sep |> Spikes barrels are made by FN so they ' re good to go <| sep |> Thats because referendum ' s are great for killing things . SO yeah we ' d love to kill TPP . Just like the conservatives in here are chanting referendum to kill any change from FPTP which they desperately need to stay relevant . <| sep |> I don ' t believe abandoning a website in its entirety is the most optimal solution for solving a fundamental issue . At the least , it doesn ' t decrease the chances of that issue appearing on another similar website . <| sep |> unemployment and poverty stats are manipulated heavily , and have been for a while . they consider what you are describing as a discouraged worker and do not include in unemployment .