Such sad news . Spoke to him a few times , he was a nice guy and his dog was adorable . <| sep |> Agreed . It ' ll be a point of feedback for us going forward . <| sep |> President Trump laughs when American citizens lose their jobs ? You know , it ' s rare for me to agree with you guys , but this time I really do believe you ' re 100 % correct . <| sep |> Yeah , my brother and I look like my mom ' s side of the family , which contains some much crazier people than my immediate family . My other brother looks like my dad ' s side and has no issues and doesn ' t really get his siblings issues . <| sep |> I don ' t think so lately he change into a cocky dude <| sep |> 22 continued And again putting wrong words in my mouth . That wasn ' t what I said . No , I ' m trying to present what I think you are saying , so that if it isn ' t , you can correct me . I ' m not trying to win an argument against a position you don ' t have . I ' m very happy for you explain what you meant in another , hopefully better , way . My point was that it is pointless to criticise an aspect a movie if the original intend wasn ' t what you ' re criticising for . I ' m not criticising it for being unrealistic . I ' m criticising it for not being immersive due to a problem with the films tone . A consistent tone and immersion within the narrative are absolutely as much as you can tell with these things something the creators of the film were looking for . I don ' t give two hoots if IpMan takes enormous liberties with the actual story of the man . What I have a problem with is presenting it as a biographical film , set in an important part of Chinese history , featuring serious topics such as war crimes , starvation etc , and presenting those topics within a film with a very serious nature , with an authentic aesthetic and cinematic vocabulary , that then shifts into a KungFu fantasy film , and only in certain scenes . I think it ' s jarring , it ' s inexpert , it breaks your immersion within the story . You weren ' t originally criticising the tone . No , I was criticising the immersion . The reason why there is a problem with immersion is due to how certain events affect the films tone . To illustrate , there wouldn ' t be any problem with the immersion within this particular scene if you looked at it alone and not the entire film . Again , you ' re making another fallacy of composition . You originally criticise the unrealistic scene 10 v 1 which was the topic of this very comment in a movie that wasn ' t displaying it realistically . They weren ' t displaying the kungfu elements realistically , in a film that was otherwise took a very authentic line with the narrative , and this was done inexpertly and to the detriment of the film . I ' m sure there are Wuxia biopics . If they have a consistent tone , it ' s fine . If they throw in subplots about Japanese slave labour camps . it ' s going to have a problem with tone unless you ' re a truly brilliant director , or you have some particularly clever tricks up your sleeves . You feel it ' s perfectly valid to criticise the unrealistic aspect of a movie when the intend wasn ' t to display to aspect realistic which is very much pointless . Again , this doesn ' t make grammatical sense so I have to just assume what you ' re saying . It is valid to criticise a film regardless of intent entirely , as it happens . Authorial intent and that whole debate , etc . But I understand the filmmakers intent , I understand what they were going for , and I ' m saying they failed . Yes , don ' t you agree ? I do agree . It ' s also completely irrelevant . Look your posts are rife with grammatical errors , sometimes to the point where I just have to guess at what your meant entirely . You seem to not understand how one goes about arguing , and you get majorly defensive when I point out errors that are undeniable and sort of important . You ' ve repeatedly brought up things I ' ve formed rebuttals for , and ignored those rebuttals . You ironically enough , seem to be the one reducing my position down so narrowly that you can argue against it , which makes up the last fallacy you ' ve made in your post , of which there are already a number . I ' m not sure if continuing our discussion is worth it to either of us . Don ' t take this as brow beating you , I don ' t think I ' ve therefore won if we just leave it here . I don ' t think I ' m somehow smarter than you , or anything of that nature . There might just be a language barrier , or even an age barrier . You might be a quite brilliant child , I have no idea . You could just find it difficult to get yourself across on the page , or be rushed for time in your responses . The reason is irrelevant . But what isn ' t is our ability to actually converse with one another civilly and in way we can both understand . I don ' t see that happening . I think we should just leave it at that .