Holy shit I just found that out ! The walk through the yard was fine . For some reason my garage feels 20 degrees colder . <| sep |> I ' m pretty sure it ' s about 4 oz . <| sep |> The title made me think it had something to do with Jay Beagle <| sep |> Clearly you are responding to a post that I didn ' t actually write . No . My whole thing was not that I ' m not gonna carry people and they need to work their asses off . . I mean I can misrepresent your post completely and argue against a strawman but that ' s not what I did so I ' d appreciate it if you didn ' t do that to me . I offered numerous solutions to the hypothetical problem you brought up , of new players finding the game hard to get into . LFG , WQs , grinding rep , class hall gear , joining a guild , talking to people , queuing for heroics and making friends . I then go on to explain how a more authentic and fun experience is actually doing the content with people that are your ilevel instead of someone who is essentially carrying you , or since you seem to prefer the phrase helping you out . How if that is not what you want to experience then WoW might not be the game for you , or you just have to accept that there will be people who are more concerned with their personal advancement in the game and there ' s nothing at all wrong with that and it doesn ' t even come close to making them elitists . I do take people who are a little lower on the gearscale . I take 865870 most of the time on my regular mythics . That ' s 20 ilevels below me . Do I have to go down to 30 to not be an elitist ? 40 ? Where ' s the arbitrary line I have to cross so I ' m not an elitist ? Seriously . Explain to me how wanting to do content with people who are similar in item level to you makes you an elitist . Everyone keeps throwing around that word and it seems to mean literally nothing . It ' s the new hipster . Like fuck dude I ' m not looking up your achievements to invite you to the regular Mythic , I just want someone who will pull some DPS so I can get out of there quicker and get onto things I have to do for my raids . Guess I ' m an elitist . If people expect to have higher gear score characters walk them through instances and they don ' t care about discovering them and the challenge of it all , then maybe WoW just isn ' t the game for them and that ' s not a tragedy .