Limp raise KK utg ? Sounds like you ' re the old man in this spot . <| sep |> Yup . I just hope someone from WT sees these posts and realises that the people who frequent this forum and post here aren ' t predisposed towards being haters . If you do good and decent things you will get the plaudits those actions deserve . My impression of the people here is simply that they aren ' t impressed with being treated like suckers by WT that ' s the starting point of frustration being vented right there . If you start treating with us in good faith , we will respond in kind . Just like we gave our money in good faith with the reasonable expectation that we would be treated in kind in return generously . There ' s no great secret to it and we actually are not hard to get long with just treat people with some respect . 😉 I ' ll also cop to having my own struggles on this last bit I really struggle to treat dbkgruelurking with any respect because he behaves so appallingly . It ' s really , really hard to respect douchebaggery and very , very easy to poke holes in said douchebaggery I ' ve no problem admitting I ' m less than perfect . 😉