I have to say grandma . This is the best turkey of the night . Let me tell you how you feel . <| sep |> Good points you ' ve made , specifically the social contract aspect . I ' ve failed to adequately explain , but i ' m particularly interested in legislation that prohibits activities that would only endanger onesself , rather than others . Another reply suggested idealistic rationale behind certain laws , which I think is very plausible . <| sep |> Every math class . Every languagespecific programming class . Every elective . <| sep |> Better response than most people when I ask why they don ' t like Iceberg <| sep |> For me that IS a big lifestyle change , I don ' t care if it isn ' t a big change for you . And you do keep on assuming a morally superior standpoint , whether or not you mean to . I ' m not criticising your choice , its just that your views are extreme in comparison to mine . That ' s the third time I ' ve said it , understand it . This is why I should never have come here . Every time I try to have a civil discussion on this topic it ends in argument . I ' m out .