i was going to oblige you , but i can ' t stand the phrase full stop so i won ' t <| sep |> Probably . My initial thought process was , Nah . He must be trying to make a funny . Now I ' m starting to think otherwise . There ' s obviously some fuckery going on and I ' m kinda worried about this sub . <| sep |> When I say traditional shapes , that may be said out of ignorance . I just assume that the first shapes I learned for the major chords were in fact ' traditional ', or the most commonly known . For instance , the traditional shape for a D chord to me is x x 0 2 3 2 , an E chord 0 2 2 1 0 0 , a G chord 3 2 0 0 3 3 , etc . These are the shapes that I want to understand how we build . I ' m growing more certain that there is some knowledge gap I possess that is preventing me from explaining my confusion in such a way that I can get the answer I ' m looking for , but this dialogue is is most definitely constructive !