I do realize that . But they ' re still part of the same country , they speak the same language and share a lot of cultures things . Agian compare The Netherlands to Greece or Turkey to Russia or italy to Sweden , you could be on the other side of the world if you wouldn ' t know any better . Language is ~~ probalby ~~ probably a big divider . <| sep |> you ' re stupid if you think a coach that has a runfirst mentality doesn ' t believe in the offensive line <| sep |> Can ' t be Hong connery . <| sep |> It ' s totally worth it there where you are going for a borderline FG . In most other cases I would agree though . <| sep |> Don ' t feel bad . Garrett did that in a 2012 game against the Cards . <| sep |> I know , I can tell . It ' s rare and appreciated . Good faith is so useful . Thank you for engaging like you do . As for the rest of your post first of all I hope you know I ' m using ' virgin walk ' because the other poster did it ' s sort of a standin , I ' m not actually positing that virgin walk differently . Yes , I see . I have never heard the term virgin walk before , but it perfectly describes the problem on many different levels . I love that term so much , I wish I had invented it . I understood her like this Going to college is an experience that makes guys lose the virginwalk . Second of all , are you saying , when you say ' it ' happens to a lotmajority of boys , that they change at some point between 1620 When do kids go to college in the USA ? I assumed that it was at about age 18 . If they are changing , then the problem isn ' t widespread , right ? My point is that when we assumeaccept and I do that they really change because of the college experience like the other poster explained and when we assume that most kids go to college at about age 18 . then I criticise that this change happens too late . Boys should lose the virgin walk again , using this term as a standin like you do , too at age 1516 . When we accept that they lose the virginwalk because of an experience that society provides college then we can assume that society could and in my opinion should provide them with an experience that has the same effect but at age 1516 . With this theoretical thinking it doesn ' t even matter that I can ' t come up with a suggestion of what society should do exactlyIt ' s like a simple formula Society provides something at age 18 that makes boys become attractive . Why shouldn ' t society be able to provide something similar at age 15 ? Btw , we red pillers sometimes talk about the fact that we don ' t have rites of passage into manhood like for example tribes do . Fits in nicely . point . On this point , I think a number of kids , male and female , are ' failed by society ' in different ways , ofc , and depending on more than simply gender alone . I agree completely . Many kids are failed by society in many different ways . I tend to support measures to improve the lives of children and adults but there ' s a big ol ' spectrum when it comes to specifics . Yeah , we could come up with thousands of examples . Guaranteed . One thing we should keep in mind is that society has a lot of childrens ' problems on the radar . Society at least tries to solve a lot of problems . There is a lot of discussion about how children fail at school , rising crime rate , equal opportunity and so on . But when does a lot of our boys don ' t lose the virginwalk until they go to college . A lot of our boys are sad and lonely and can ' t find relationships EVER come up in the media or in discussions about how we are failing our children . You ' ll see plenty of addressing problems our girls face in their romantic life . Society has slutshaming on the radar . And consent education . But the widespread problem of the virgin walk that condemns boys to loneliness ? Never . And this is the difference it ' s not even on the radar . I do personally think that a lot of what ' s going on is also happening in a way that ' s much closer to home , too . Parenting , mainly . Agree 100 %. Wtf . I honestly wish I could talk to that guy ' s parents the one in the video . Like , do they even realize something is wrong ? Do they think it ' s normal for their son to be so clearly anxioushelplesstotally lacking in normal , healthy masculinity ? Believe me , I can totally understand you . I ' d beat the shit out of some parents if I was allowed to . Edit I streamofconsciousnessed this , soz . Stream away !