That good that they can get to d 3 with the worst talent and no idea then obviously they deserve to be thereLet me just explain something , Im grandmaster in eu pending between # 130 # 180 . I made a smurf acc to just test things out . After 12 played quickmatch games I had an mmr of 3150 I lost 2 of those games and started at 1700 as all new accounts does , my mmr upped with 300 per game . That mmr is translated over to hl and placement games and I get auto diamond 3 . This is not only for me who have played the game for a while now and have decent knowledge but also to completely new players who are lucky in 810 qm games can already be 3 k and therefor be auto d 3 . My friend and hes other friend also tried this one fellow gm and a gold player whos pending between gold 2 and 4 . They played together and ended up 73 after 10 qm games and 3 k mmr . The gold player was so happy and played AI rest of the time until he had correct amount of heroes at level 5 and guess what , he went straight to dia 3 . I know many low level players who hasnt had a gm at their side and have done the same thing . Just wanted to throw that out , my friend whos low gold in LoL trolled in hots and solo queued and did the same thing Thats the problem , people play a very few amount of qm games and reaches diamond mmr in 5 games or so . HL should NOT base mmr of off qm . Thats why we are playing with people who cant draft , barely know builds and basic stuff in the beginning of the seasons before going master . Diamond 1 has quite a few good players but as soon as you have diamond 3 ' s in your team its a complete gamble , some feels worse than gold and others are future grandmasters . Sure VERY FEW people with insane mechanics coming from dota etc can reach that rank just becouse they are very talented but most players have a few lucky qm games and go 3 k mmr and straight into dia 3 even if they lose half their placments . Now you know why you play with shit players in the beginning of the season , its really frustrating I know . Sorry for the long post dude , you may already know this but I just wanted to let you know how this system works so you know why you are playing with and against lower level of players and why beeing diamond in hots doesnt mean jack .