Link To Original Submission I Am A Bot . Please Message uccd if you have any feedback or suggestions . <| sep |> My oxygen is better than yours <| sep |> Crossed paths with wolves , a pack of 10 . They got off the trail after staring at us for about 40 seconds . I looked over my shoulder the rest of the trip , not like it would really do anything . <| sep |> Someone I met on the internet <| sep |> If there happens to be a battery on that sand to the left for some reason , just ignore it . Sand Instant death . <| sep |> This isn ' t how the Force works . It ' s not mathematical . I never said the Force works that way . I used a numerical system to give my point an image . The Force is , obviously , no addition or subtraction , but it was a simple scale of power . It ' s obvious that the Force doesn ' t work in numerical digits , but characters can be represented in a numerical system ranked by power . And , yes , you even admitted yourself that there is a ranking of power . There is a meassure of power . By stating the Inquisitor could beat Vaylin hands down , you meassure their power against each other and find subjectively Nox to be higher than Vaylin . Your dismissal of my metaphor is a mood point that ' s used in absence of any other argument . If someone is trying to come up with a battle tactic , and he uses little figures instead of actual people on the tactical map , is his plan mood ? That ' s the very same idea you use something to visualize an abstract concept . In this case , power . You are extremely ignorant on this topic if you think the Force really works like Dragon Ball Z power levels . Go read up on the wiki and educate yourself . There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding here that can be reconciled between the two of us until you learn more about the topic you are discussing . I know perfectly well what the Force is . I ' d go as far as to say that i know both of Lucas ' versions he wrote for the Star Wars movies the one that made the Force out to be something incorporeal and distant . And then the New Era Force , which makes the Force out to be tangible , accessible via a physical location the Clone Wars , and meassures a persons potential capability by counting the midichlorians . There are a few comparable statistics between Ki in Dragon Ball and the Force in Star Wars . Prolonged sessions of training can make the user stronger . There are certain abilities unlocked at certain power levels , and the efficiency of said abilities is mostly influenced by training and power . The two are not relateable on a 11 scale , but there are certainly similarities between the two . That ' s besides the point , seeing that my power level explanation was a metaphor . I never said the two shared an equal value or characteristic , but just put a theory into numbers . A theory you don ' t debunk with an actual argument , but by attacking the metaphor instead of the argument . And , no , the argument isn ' t invalid because you dislike the metaphor . There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding here that can be reconciled between the two of us until you learn more about the topic you are discussing . Accusing someone else of missinformation and ignorance without a proper argument yourself is a logical fallacy . You aren ' t making an argument at all you ' re just starting to denounce this discussion because you are running out of arguments . At the very beginning , I did ask you for a source for your opinion . You did not provide any . Then you asked me to explain why I think Valkorion is stronger than Vaylin , and I gave you detailed paragraphs that are easily accessible . Now you say that ' s invalid without providing anything . You are still due a source for your claim that the Inquisitor can beat Vaylin . I ' ll make an educated guess and say that your main is an Inquisitor , you are pissed that you can ' t defeat Vaylin yet or that your Inquisitor is made out to be weaker than you headcanon him to be . The next step will be downright dismissal , stating you main another character , and still lacking any tangible argument to boot . If you really think Vaylin can trump a skilled and powerful Forceuser that ' s got the power of 3 other powerful Forceusers amplifying their abilities , then you are a lost cause . No , I am simply relating her supposed ability to what you were saying . Someone doesn ' t become invincible right after absorbing a Force Ghost . It ' s interesting that you don ' t even answer your false equivalence . You said that the Inquisitor should be stronger than Vaylin . Valkorion is stronger than Vaylin because he absorbed Force Ghosts which I admitted . The Inquisitor did the same . Seeing absorbing Force Ghosts made Vitiate stronger , he must be stronger too . You are leaving out any mention of the quantity of Force Ghosts absorbed Yes , it ' s important how many Sith you absorb . Valkorion is stronger than Vaylin because he absorbed eight thousand of them . Nox absorbed three . That doesn ' t make him invincible or near invincible . Your post actually contradicts itself The only thing you can measure about it is Midichlorians , and even that is not a measure of power . That ' s a rough metric of potential capability . If you really think Vaylin can trump a skilled and powerful Forceuser that ' s got the power of 3 other powerful Forceusers amplifying their abilities , then you are a lost cause . If the Force cannot be meassured , and power levels do not apply here , how would you make the equivalence that those three ghosts give an edge to Lord Nox over Vaylin ? If the Force is not meassurable , and power is a relative concept , then by your own admission the three absorbed ghosts have no bearing on the Inquisitors meassurable power they wouldn ' t be an advantage over Vaylin at all . As for your point If you really think Vaylin can trump a skilled and powerful Forceuser that ' s got the power of 3 other powerful Forceusers amplifying their abilities . It does not matter what I believe . I believe the story around Vaylin is quite dull and uninspired . However , it was made quite clear that multiple characters think that Vaylin cannot be beaten by any of the player characters that includes your Inquisitor . The three ghosts made him stronger during his class story , but Vaylin is still Valkorion ' s little girl . Whether you want that to be true for your character doesn ' t matter . Due to some external factors Carbonite poisoning , plot armour and Valkorion ' s influence , Vaylin hunted you across the entire galaxy and made you her little bitch . It ' s made quite clear that fighting Vaylin without Valkorion ' s aid is a bad idea . Yes , Vaylin can defeat the Inquisitor . Just like she could take on the Knight . That ' s the entire point of the story use Valkorion ' s power to defeat Vaylin and take the Eternal Throne . If you don ' t like it , that ' s fine by me , I would agree . But your entire post full of false equivalences and downright laughable accusations of ignorance don ' t lend your point any credibility . If Vaylin was stronger than Nox and the three ForceUsers combined , the Inquisitor could dance around in a circle of fire and pray to Diablo for support . The three ghosts wouldn ' t enable him to defeat Vaylin . And until you can deliver a tangible codex entry that states that those three ghosts made Nox more powerful than Vaylin which would contradict your entire point of powerthe Force not being meassurable , your argument stays mood . Continue to accuse me of ignorance all you want . It still doesn ' t make you magically have a point . The I lost my patience because you are of inferior knowledge to me . I ' m out exit has been done here before . It ' s usually made when someone lacks a good argument , btu wants to conceal it behind an ad hominem attack .