but the new abyssal is apparently weaker early correct me if i ' m wrong You ' re not wrong . new abyssal is more of an anti tank damage item . some insight from a d 1 master tf main or theorycrafter would be greatly appreciated . Not a TF main , but this doesn ' t take thatRabadons and void both crush ludens in terms of damage later in game . It ' s not close . Assuming stacked RoA lich bane as 1 st 2 items , mpen reds AP quints if taking MS quints doesn ' t change much and calculating gold card lichbane Qtlords burst . Assuming level 14 for 3 item calcsVoid amp tome beats ludens at ~ 45 MR or so without including E proc . If you have E proc breakpoint is essentially base MR ie void always betterLudens amp tome vs dcapNo E proc near as makes no difference a tieWith E proc Dcap wins by ~ 5 % And the later in your build you go the worse Ludens becomes relative to the other 2 . In general , Void is strongest damage item for the gold period . Dcap is 2 nd after 3 items generally . Ludens can compete as 1 st 2 nd item but falls off hard relative to those two . Value of Ludens is in the MS and for single spell poke makes your Q poke much more effective than alternatives . For pure burstteamfight damage it ' s inferior