thanks , will try that <| sep |> That looks like a solid list , I will have to give it a try , thank you very much ! <| sep |> You ' re kidding right ? People are leaving because they don ' t like a sub they didn ' t have to go too ? Or maybe people are leaving because the subs that are supposed to be neutral were clearly astroturfed <| sep |> Probably not even with a EUfriendly govt in Turkey that actually tries . There would be referendums in some countries and i doubt all of them would pass . The EU is busy not blowing itself up as it is . But i think a privileged partnership , including visa waiver and single market access , is certainly achievable . But it would need a govt that actually wants it , takes rule of law seriously and doesn ' t introduce the death penalty .