are you running an emulation of someone elses machine ? <| sep |> yeah , for sure <| sep |> I ' m glad your so passionate about the game to write all that . I understand your points but I think at the end of the day were just on the opposite side of the opinion table . Not to to take away from what you said cause I think you have some really good points about the game and the philosophy around it , but I know what my PC ' s want . I ' ve been friends with them for 6 years and understand what they look for in a game . I guess teach is the wrong word but I wanted to try and show them the consequences of heavy meta gaming and how it affects the game since they are new to it . They are the type of people that want to learn a game mechanic through the game and not through explanation . They like games that never just give into the player like Dark Souls . They want the game to be hard and in my opinion meta gaming makes it much to easy for them to by pass certain obstacles and often breaks the immersion of the game . These are my findings from playing with my PC ' s , if you have had different experiences that ' s cool but in the end I ' m at the table and am running the game and I have noticed a potential way to improve my players understandings of the game and it ' s mechanic . All players are different and Each one has a different opinion on it . Some of this seems pointless cause we ' re arguing about a subjective point of view on a unofficial point in the game .