It feels like nothing more than a lateral move to me . <| sep |> I ' ve still seen people getting upvoted for defending The Chainsmokers , even after Closer and the cursed interview . I don ' t really see people getting downvoted for defending them , or Meghan Trainor or Lukas Graham or Charlie Puth or any artist this sub hates . It does happen when a loved artist is bashed . And if the bashing isn ' t too harsh they might actually be around 25 upvotes , with a comment like delete it fat or pls ban or whatever being upvoted much more , which means that most people who disagree actually just don ' t vote on the posts at all . <| sep |> Will be interesting to see what happens with the 1 x . All indications are that John Graves is going the 1 x route and they won ' t try a 4 x again . I ' d have to take Ben powerwise but he still has 2 . 5 years left at UW while John can train exclusively in the 1 x for the entire quadrennial . Also , you never know what up and comers may make some noise later in the quadrennial or what role injuries may play . But the two of them definitely have the upper hand right now . Maybe they ' d try a 2 x ? Not sure it would be in Ben ' s best interest since he definitely has more juice , already goes sub 6 .