Index and fate spoilerss I meant HIS personal reasons for helping them , not ' oh look at this girl she ' s so pathetic she needs me to save her '. As fate put it putting others before yourself to the extent where you would give your life up for other people is completely absurd . Shirou wasn ' t doing it out of the goodwill of his heart , it was because of his survivors guilt from the fire , wanting to take on his role models dream , and after fighting Archer he realizes the most important reason being he enjoyed seeing other people being saved . From reading the light novels Touma ' s primary motivation is for the sake of other people not himself , which is bull shit and tags him as the hero of justice archetype that Shirou deconstructs .