not even just welding engineering , design engineering in general . It ' s like they don ' t even consider that someone will actually have to make their design . Yea , not a single drawing has properly specified weld symbols but depending on the customer I can just say ok this is what they want but more and more I have to submit formal requests for drawing changes because some guy specified a . 5 groove weld on . 375 tube . Then it ' s like 90 days before they come back with the change that I proposed . <| sep |> Don ' t worry , by then Ellsworth will be WWE champion . That ' s what everyone here wants . I shit you not , if Ellsworth was to beat the shit out of Lesnar , everyone on this sub would hungrily lap it up and bark clap like a bunch of circus seals .