Pulled 4 star Bartz . I am happy . <| sep |> Regarding the beetle we have an explanation . But suppose we didn ' t . That does not imply design at all . If we don ' t know we do , that ' s all . 200 years ago we didn ' t know how anything evolved . We the beetle designed then but now has evolved ? Our understanding of the origin does not determine the origin . To assert design you need evidence for the design . At the minimum this means you need to show that a designer existed at the relevant time and place with the appropriate capabilities . But ID has a bigger problem . We have one known example of designers humans . Human design is itself an evolutionary process . We take existing thing that work and modify them . Then we test . Yes , sometimes we do the modification and testing on paper and in the lab . Bit it is still change and test , it is still evolution . ID advocates really mean God , bit the hallmark of their idea of God is creation , not design .