I liked Frazier bc you know future of the franchise . But every since he was traded to the Yankees ? He ' s been insufferable . That being said I hope he just ruins all things Red Sox for the next decade . <| sep |> I found out that dlc 2 was released and drive this car all night . It ' s a hoot to drive , I tried the gt 1 and 962 and those are a handful to drive <| sep |>. even acting to prevent their beginning to live . Is it likely that the early church shared the modern evangelical definition of life beginning at conception ? Isn ' t it possible they had entirely different standards ? What light could you shed on this for me ? From my own understanding , it seems likely that they didn ' t hold this view , given that the traditional rabbinic view is that a fetus isn ' t a person until birth . This can be supported by the fact that a person who harms a pregnant woman in Exodus 212225 isn ' t considered a murderer although that ' s debatable . In Job 1019 , Job says that he would never have been if he had died in the womb , indicating that the authors didn ' t believe he would have existed as a person in the womb . I know the early Christian church is far separated from the authorship of Job , but they would have been familiar with the story if Job never would have been if he had died in the womb , doesn ' t it make sense that even acting to prevent their beginning to live could refer to preventing them from being born ? This seems even more likely given that the passage seems to designate only two types of children being killed newborns and ones that haven ' t yet begun to live , which can be understood to be not newborns , i . e . children who hadn ' t been born yet . If they had wanted to talk about infanticide , abortion , and birth control , I don ' t think they would have only discussed infanticide and birth control , or infanticide and abortion . Perhaps they considered birth control , as we see it , as virtually the same thing as abortion , and didn ' t see the reason to distinguish between the two . Calling uThirdProcess to get his or her take on it as well .