I think we got there in 2005 <| sep |> Also you can just talk to the people without fucking themI mean I guess if you just hate family fun or something . <| sep |> Having bought VC during the current sale , I ' m finding that it has a lot of little ' realistic ' features like this made to exclusively punish the player for everything they do , while not levying the same limitations and costs upon the AI . For all the cool things that VC does , it really does seem like it goes out of its way to unfairly frustrate you . And I really can ' t stress unfair enough . Which is a shame , since it is otherwise so good . That said , it ' d be really cool to see a mod that actually incorporated something like ' dread ' as a player ranking . And VC would have been absolutely perfect for something like that , what with its ample opportunity to play as a raider .