It doesnt affect the hd 600 as much as the hd 650 . Those who enjoy an airy , bright treble presentation like me will find that the Hd 600 and especially the Hd 650 lack a bit in that regard . Simply , they lack some excitement other headphones have because they are more smooth and laidback . The hd 600 is somewhat subject to the veil but far from the same magnitude that the hd 650 is . The 600 ' s are still neutral and a worldclass headphone in the rangePs personal bias must be pretty clear by now . I dislike warm smothering cuddly cans , i love my cold , kill you bright n detailed airy treble . <| sep |> Hrmmm people seem to be slowing down up there , let me just speed up and try to go around them all UH OH is what i ' m guessing they were thinking