You did . They are technically a MYW bonus . <| sep |> ohhhh that makes more sense . Always reminds me of coming home from school and it being on always . <| sep |> Ratting and mining are the main ways to make money in the game . Mining shouldn ' t be an issue because all alpha races can use a venture frigate for that . when it comes to ratting for isk , the Gallente Vexor cruiser is just hands down the best ship for the job for alphas . Youll still be able to rat in Minmatar ships the Thrasher does well in belts , it ' ll just be slower going . In fleet pvp we don ' t use Minmater cruisers , except for the Rupture but I haven ' t seen them used in months . The Thrasher and Talwar destroyers are both quite good and will be used on roaming fleets a bunch . For frigates , the Burst , Slasher , Rifter , and Vigil all see a lot of use . So , ratting and cruiser level fleet pvp is where I see Minmatar being a little annoying . Never fear though , we always have a spot for you on any fleet and with roaming gangs , gate camps , and kitchensink fleets there will be plenty of chances to use your cruisers in pvp .