There ' s no way Ford is a meme here , is there ? I ' m a huge Ford fan , easily my favorite director and I ' ve been depressed ever since I joined because I never see him mentioned . I miss a lot of stuff though , so who knows , lol . <| sep |> Never played this MU against a high level M 2 but I agree with all of this in theory , except I ' m not sure its quite 2 bad . M 2 clearly wins the MU though for the things you mentioned . Hover nair is really hard for Ivysaur to deal with and will either shield poke or guarantee a grab , Ivysaur has to either play passive and try to read M 2 coming in with teleport putting her in a bad spot where she ' s playing M 2 ' s mixup game , or try to be aggressive and space around M 2 ' s large shield and good grab gameWD back dtilt . Either way M 2 is happy and Ivysaur is sad .