That ' s what I was thinking haha . I ' m rank 2186 , all treasures , Weak Mildly Acidic , levels 2530 . Only have 5 Ubers because I ' ve gotten screwed over on all 50 ish uberfest draws . But at least I have Aphro . I may give it a try and see . Biggest worry for me is that I ' ll just get annoyed of not being able to read in the first place . <| sep |> What you said lol <| sep |> The kid has ceased to be . He ' s an exkid . <| sep |> Someone make sure the local movie theatres , elementary schools , and churches are on high alert in this kids city <| sep |> How far should we take it ? Personally , it ' s pretty simple , really as far as it doesn ' t start causing me constant inconvenience . Case don ' t walk anymore because you kill insects well , it ' s a huge inconvenience to stop walking , and it ' s a minor bonus since we don ' t really know if insects feel pain . On the other hand , being vegan is a minor inconvenience , and a huge bonus because I know animals feel pain . Is it moral to kill predators because it would reduce the suffering of prey and there are more prey than predators so we ' d be reducing net suffering ? This falls into what I ' m talking about I already know about how wrong it is to kill animals , so I work around that issue . This isn ' t about being an altruist I ' m not gonna analyse every scenario in my life and obsess on that I should do , but rather I have quite concrete knowledge about one specific scenario , and act on that . Now , I would devote time into this issue if it meant some gain , but it ' s not a very practical question because even if it was more morally correct to kill these predators , I wouldn ' t kill them for I ' m afraid of doing it , don ' t wanna spend time on it , don ' t own a rifle , don ' t think my actions will amount to much , etc , but mostly it ' s not an equivalent comparison for I do take part into eating and am offered animal food all the time , so the question of eating animals is wrong or not is demanded for me to process , but I ' m far too removed from the death of preypredators for that to matter as in , they may have died in order for my computer to be built , but what can I do about that ? . That ' s the equivalent of this argument of it ' s fine to kill mammals for vegetables as long as we don ' t kill mammals for meat simply because we kill more for meat . Very important distinction it ' s not fine to kill mammals for vegetables , but it ' s as far as we can go for obtaining some vegetables , without having to enter into major inconveniences . More than anything I find it immoral to disrupt the food chain and the natural balance as much as possible , and we sit on the top of that food chain . This doesn ' t mean anything . There ' s nothing moral about nature , and even further , so many of the things we do aren ' t natural , so why care about it for this particular issue ? We can continue living just as comfortably if we scrap factory farming or only kill animals ethically and without pain . Impossible to do on a large scale , don ' t be ridiculous . Hard on a single case , even just think about how hard it is for people to kill THEMSELVES without pain . If we scrap animals from our diet entirely it sacrifices comfort and convenience for the sake of reduction . You do it for the sake of it being wrong . Final point this isn ' t nearly as inconvenient as you think it is . I live in a regular city in the third world , don ' t have much money , and loved meatcheeseetc . Changed one day to the other without knowing anything about nutrients and the like , and I ' m fine . I hope you try it .