So you ' re saying the ISO should ' ve stayed away from the rallies ? What kind of socialist tells socialists to stay away from a rally or protest ? Talk about sectarianism . Didn ' t say this at all . I don ' t care if ISO shows up to rallies and they should show up . You all are the ones being sectarian harping on SA and then recruiting members from OUR tactic and then turning around calling the tactic wrong . It ' s literally insane how much in denial you are about the tactic . You all materially benefited form it and I am glad and then turn around saying we are an opportunist reformist organization . SA isn ' t trying to impress ISO or the Sparts . We are digging roots in the working class . We were hundreds of members smaller than you all a year ago . We have now surpassed the ISO and just got hundreds of contacts via the Trump protests . Almost a thousand in two weeks ! That ' s more than any revolutionary organization in probably decades . We don ' t recruit the ones and twos at rallies , we are recruiting via the advanced layers and masses but on a principled guideline of membership . As Lenin says socialists must go to where the people are . You can do that without endorsing a Democratic candidate or working to expand a Democratic campaign . The Democrats are structurally undemocratic and inherently capitalist while you guys were able to benefit yourselves from the recruits you nabbed from the campaign , you still ultimately made the Democrats stronger and that is a blow against the entire left . Go where the people are rallies we organized . Great got it . You severely overestimate the power and strength of SA . Like are we seriously that big that you think we single handedly strengthened the Democratic party . It ' s ironic since we have a NON Democrat in office . Sorry to pull a Zizek but it ' s the complete opposite what we did . Without our intervention the Dem party would be strengthened period . We convinced many groups in my area to stop engaging the Dem party . We filled a vacuum . Like you said the Dem party creates its own demise but I ' m not going to sit and wait for a revolution . We need to build our forces now .