I think Horde ' s attitude toward ships is one of its better aspects . The idea isn ' t to die , it is to not fear dying . Ships are ammo and should be used the goal is to learn and have fun playing a video game . This is why NBI hands out cheap ships like candy , fly cheap foctrines , and take suicide and drunk fleets out . A prime example of this is back during the ~ Reconquista ~ of Fade in the GME pocket . Cloaky campers and oppression fleets were a continuous threat and were picking off ratters and miners all day long . One day , some frustrated guy in standing comms snapped , Fuck this , these assholes don ' t want us to rat . We ' ll , we are going to goddamn rat and we are going to start getting some kills . Group ratting we ' ll still lose ships and the ticks will suck , but they ' ll be great for the newbeans and we ' ll finally take some of these fuckers with us . So he spent the next few hours organizing the four dozen ratter volunteers and standing fleet it was a blast . We got some kills , introduced some beans to haven ratting , built comradery , and didn ' t feel at all oppressed . Good times . Conversely , this is why I take issue with the handling of Khan ' s last drunk fleet . I have no interest in drunk fleets , but those who do seem to have a fantastic time . Shutting it down to blueball CO 2 goes against the nature of Horde . Good fc ' s stand down from a hopeless , bitter fight . Good fc ' s take a hopeless , enjoyable fight . Good fc ' s know the difference .