LMAO . Yeah , clearly . Jesus , the delusion is almost palpable . Care to point out the delusion ? I was not shocked when Trump won . Mostly because FiveThirtyEight had been running a series of articles that explained , with quite a bit of data behind it , why he had a decent shot at the White House . I think they gave him about a 30 % shot of winning on election day . Why would I be surprised that something that had about a 13 chance of happening happened ? There were plenty of people who assumed Clinton would win , yes . I was not one of them . It also has pretty much nothing to do with Trump ' s continuing conflicts of interest . Trump said he wouldn ' t care about his company if he was elected one of the GOP debates , if I ' m remembering correctly . That has clearly not been true . I ' m of the mind that things could be reasonably free of conflict of interest if there were a robust system set up to put up a wall between him and his company . Anything that would directly affect one of his businesses should be examined by someone independent . I ' d prefer some sort of blind trust , but I ' m also aware that would be very hard to do in this situation . He hasn ' t taken any steps to resolve these conflicts of interest , and has basically said they don ' t matter . Our country is owed better than that , by far . It is completely fair to discuss this , as it will be after the electoral college selects him to be President . The election has nothing to do with him , for example , inviting his daughter , who is to run his company , to sit in on meetings with foreign heads of state . Things like that will continue to be fair to question and discuss after the college votes , after he is inaugurated , and , after his termterms isare over . Also , I ' m not sure what you mean by actually had a chance of winning in that context . Isn ' t your whole point here that the election wasn ' t in any way a sure thing ? Therefore Clinton did have a chance to win , right ? Maybe I ' m misunderstanding .