I didn ' t expect a straight up copy . I thought the would be pretty different in some ways more focus on guns , more focus on dungeon crawling and less on running through a linear level . But I really did expect permanent progression and a loot system of some sort . Also , the combat in Vermintide is really good . There ' s a visceral feedback system when you shoot or hit something . That ' s the stuff I wanted carried over from vermintide . Instead there ' s no loot system or progression , there ' s no melee combo system , blocking is pretty much meaningless , and the physics and animations involved when you shoot or hit something is really wonky and bad . I was open to a lot of changes from Vermintide , but I did want to have a character that was mine that I would get to gear up .