Well didn ' t mean to entirely change my point , just forgot that on the internet everything is literal and that people would take , know how to use irons , to mean literally have any knowledge or experience with the matter , rather than just be proficient with irons as I had meant and assumed folks would get . So yeah you got me . As to my point it is that if you don ' t have irons on a rifle you ' re likely not proficient with them . Now as to scopes being objectively better in every way , this is false I ' ll grant that in most situations scopes may be better but in others irons are better if you ever jump a jackrabbit on foot , irons often work better than your scope just as sometimes it ' s quicker to walk across the street rather than back the car out of the garage and pull out into the street and then into the neighbors driveway to get to their house , and yeah sometimes you ' d be better off punching someone than shooting them . Now I wasn ' t whining so much as judging . And yeah I suppose using your handgun sights will help keep you in practice if you ever need to use a rifle with irons . You got me there ! Although I think in many ways handguns and rifles are different animals . And yup it ' s not just that I haven ' t driven a standard in a while it ' s that I ' m not well practiced as in I was never that proficient at it in the first place just as some folks may have used irons but never got proficient with them .