I remember one of the models has the Volvo 5 cylinder in it <| sep |> Having an album with Swanslike song lengths and only 5 songs on it would be fucking amazing . <| sep |> Yeah stagflation was great you fucking idiot <| sep |> Oh gods , I tried this before and it was terrible . I hope it was just rng fooling with me though . Edit Did some research , and apparently lots of people like it , so it doesn ' t sound as bad as it was before with me . <| sep |> You shouldn ' t flag a guy on a third down play at the marker with the game on the line like that . It ' s letter of the law but they should take game situation into account . <| sep |> I just hit 100 , 000 Karma after three years . I don ' t know how to feel about it . <| sep |> This is a discussion , these are my arguments . It ' s not about you , or your opinion . It ' s about what they did , the history of the game and Square Enix ' focus . You just said this is about your opinions , but not mine ? That ' s not a discussion , that ' s you wanting to stand on a soapbox and talk without discourse . Expect differing opinions if you state yours , especially since your whole point is your opinion . As to whyI thought you were upset It botters me . A lot . Then , your tirade on how you think certain people aren ' t worthy of holding positionsdeserving of things That part of the process doesn ' t , and will never , deserve our payback . They should ' ve never let a guy like that take the helm . I ' m over everyone sugar coating this whole process they messed up horribly in the last decade , and even Tabata admitted to thatThat ' s why it seemed like you were losing your cool , but I might have been mistaken I apologize if that ' s the case . High emotions often run alongside claims of entitlement . The problem is , your argument has jumped around multiple times just in our exchange , so I am having a tough time following you . First , SE was bad for offering different preorders . Then , you claim XV was delayed for the Pro ' s sake . Next , we have . I guess subpar preorder rewards as the issue ? And all of this is collectively distracting us from something , but I ' m not sure what your point is there . You then jump to bashing Nomura as a nutjob for some reason . Sure , this project didn ' t go well for him . So ? IVXIII seemed to go well , even with Nomura having a hand in them . Either way , there have been costs associated with this project that SE is trying to recoup . That ' s what it looks like to me at least , so I don ' t blame them for going nuts with marketing and purchase options . I may not like it , but it ' s also 100 % in my power to not purchase the game . If you take that much issue with their schemes , don ' t buy the game . Dwindling profits speak louder than anything for a company . Tabata can have the opinion that the last few FFs weren ' t good , but that doesn ' t make it law . Many people love the last four mainline FF games . I thought XII was terrific , and XIII was good as well . From what I played of XIV , it was amazing ! But , these are just my opinions , just as your claims are yours . Like being in the majority of players , who didn ' t finish XII or XIII . I also don ' t see why they should have to include any additional content , like camera and fishing extras , with their game . If they choose to leverage those to one retailer or another , and get paid for it , that ' s their call . We ' re not discussing your personal preferences . We ' re discussing ethics , and whether Square still has the fans ' best interest . This must be your point , I ' m guessing ? Anyway , we are discussing my preferences , as we are also discussing yours . Don ' t try to act like you ' re on this high horse above me , that ' s demeaning and makes for a poor discussion . I would prefer , since you keep referencing my opinion without knowing it , that SE include all extra content on the disc , and just offer the standard , deluxe , and UCE editions . But , it ' s also their call to offer a boatload of options . I understand and respect their decision to do that , even if I don ' t agree with it . SE hasn ' t engaged in anything shady that I can recall in regards to XV . SE has their fans ' best interest in mind from my standpoint , along with maximizing profits . I ' m okay with that . Again , their goal is to make money , more than it is to appease us . If they only wanted to make us happy , they ' d sell the game for an amount that makes them break even . Well , I apologize for the wall of text , in any case .