You ' re misunderstanding me . I am not saying a jungler should leave his team to 4 v 5 . But I am saying you are dwelling on 1 specific instance in 1 specific game . You are ignoring the likely equally bad play of the enemy team . There is absolutely no point dwelling on a specific bad play on your team , you are facing and having the SAME PLAYER POOL of players . They are all equally good or bad over the long run . To me it is a team game of you need your 4 bad players to help you beat their 5 bad players . You cannot win a game 1 v 5 , but your exerted influence must be much more than any of the opposing 5 bad players . <| sep |> Ouch . Just cut myself . <| sep |> Trust me they were evil on TVD but they were better then others elena was nothing in front of Katherine she was the best part of Nina . Klus is a beauty and i am waiting for S 4 of TO .