I don ' t perceive this as arguing , merely exchanging thoughts on this matter . I agree being passive in lane is not that easy , yet possible . I ' ve seen quite a lot passive safe laners vs a semipassive offlane , no rotations , etc . It really depends on how each team plays it . ofc a jungler can be more passive . But in any case , the passive playstyle is never a good choice , even if it can work . And you are right this is also depending on MMR as well . In general , I see a lot of ppl prefering to be passive , no matter the MMR , and especially when jungling . One of the main reasons imho people don ' t know heroes , so to get a feeling they are rather passive . Some go lane and after a while develop more or less the needed skills to master that hero , while others want to try jungle first which is fine but at some point never are really willing to leave that comfort zone . In the end , they end up having tons of excuses why they did not join fights , etc . all more or less legit reasons , but basically they are avoiding to get involved because they are insecure and later on simply stuck in a passive playstyle .