yeah but he phrased it as if we were supposed to be never able to find it <| sep |> Well i play Brand or lux and i find he can bully me out of lane early very easy , you can ' t even stand near your minions due to his ability spreading through the minions . And my question was more how to shut him down without having him being camped by jungle or relying on someone elses hard CC . <| sep |> I like this idea , as long as we can guarantee it ' s not spez that does it we cant <| sep |> Add a strawpoll for this <| sep |> Some uneducated plebs I allow to be near me in order to make myself appear worldly and connected to the mere mortal ebb and floe of the world we live in . <| sep |> I focused on Fafnir before getting VF , but still felt like the augment was still valuable since it could break , then Shiva Sicarus came along and Fafnir is pretty much done for . I know that feeling .