haha after I wrote the comment I told myself no , werobamexicanloki . Today you will be a legend . You will get up your fat ass , look at life in the eye and do something productive like looking up a link for 30 seconds so that other people dont have to literally move their fingers for 30 seconds cuz they ' re just that lazy . I did it for you guys . <| sep |> Interim belt which is bullshit . If an interim belt exists then the next fight has to be a unifying bout . <| sep |> That is geeky ! xD hahaha . Hope you find a gal who gets it ! <| sep |> Doesn ' t he have debate questions to be leaking ? <| sep |> Thank you that is exactly where my mind is currently at . 6 weeks to go ! <| sep |> The other is just , literally , those other beings external to and distinct from the subject . Kristeva is referencing a Lacanian theory or terminology here when she speaks of the Other , she means what in a Lacanian context is called the Big or Symbolic Other . This isn ' t another person , but rather an impersonal phenomenon although we encounter it initially through particular persons , and it determines our relationships to persons , and for these reasons we often personalize it in fact , this is a central dynamic in neurosis , on the Lacanian theory which establishes norms by which we take ourselves to understand who we are in the world , how we ' re to relate to others , in what our desires are to be satisfied , how our desires are to be limited , and how we ' re to be protected from our desires it is a Lacanian reformulation of the role of the father in Freud ' s Oedipal complex . It is less another person and more the perceived judgment of persons at large , something like the they in a thought like they say that if you work hard and are honest you ' ll do well in life . So in the passage from Kristeva For the stray considers himself as equivalent to a Third Party . The Third Party here is the Other , in the above sense . Its thirdness is a reference i to the Symbolic order , and ii to its structural relation as a third party implicit in and structuring the relation between a self and other . The reference here is to our identification with the Other , the way we are domesticated to it , through its establishing the conditions for our sense of self , our relations to others , etc . He secures the latter ' s judgment , he acts on the strength of its power in order to condemn , he grounds himself on its law to tear the veil of oblivion but also to set up its object as inoperative . Explicating the idea just mentioned . As jettisoned . Parachuted by the Other . A ternary structure , if you wish , held in keystone position by the Other , but a structure that is skewed , a topology of catastrophe . A further reference to the same idea , but now with a reference to the idea of what is lost in our domestication to the Other . For , having provided itself with an alter ego , the Other no longer has a grip on the three apices of the triangle where subjective homogeneity resides and so , it jettisons the object into an abominable real , inaccessible except through jouissancey We are no longer simply identical to ourselves once we ' ve been reinterpreted in the context of our relation to the Other , what about ourselves is impermissible or unspeakable according to the logic of the Other is severed from our sense of self as it develops in the context of that logic , and becomes something strange to us , something of the unconscious , whose effect in us is perceivable in the disruptions it makes in our libidinal life . It follows that jouissance alone causes the abject toexist as such . One does not know it , one does not desire it , one joys in it on enjouit . Violently and painfully . A passion . Explicating the idea just mentioned . And so on . Ping ucatcity 678