It ' s been both ways for a long time , it ' s just one side has been a lot more violent and expansionist than the other . <| sep |> And this HUGE push for more STEM graduates but where ' s the talk of creating jobs for them ? If we want more but no new jobs , what we really want is more competition for the jobs so we can pay less . <| sep |> 2 Tember 2 Furious <| sep |> I can ' t find the 5 tb sale . I ' ve checked the promo code ads through the emails and everything . Do you have a direct link ? Or know when the sale starts ? Thanks ! <| sep |> You wouldn ' t be able to have a method that uses both , since once you use the mixer it ' s no longer no knead . Thought about kneading by hand ? <| sep |> I ' d go Cooks over Beasley , a lot more upside