And I think he even owns 3 of the 4 . What sells it for me is how smug and up front he is about it . As if he has plausible deniability . We ' ve seen his demeanor and his inner circles . And the chilling part is , we ' ve only seen a very small percentage of it . We might have to bring back public hangings . <| sep |> No worries on the multiple commenting . Thank you for giving me a rundown . I started using kratom to supplement my pain pills in an effort to make them last longer . I used it on and off for a couple of years and then become more of a regular user and before I got sober , I was using every single day with lots of other drugs . Since I got sober , I now use about an ounce a day in order to battle pain , cravings , and stimulation . Since you know all those strains so well , do you want to choose a bunch of strains you are willing to give me like 50 g samples or something like that for the ones you have open and can do a small amount on ? The two I definitely want to try if they are open are the two Kratom Virtue strains and then I would like to try some SoCal and some Herbal Salvation . I have never had anything from either vendor but people seem to love them around here . If not , I will create a list tomorrow and send it to you but I would be more than willing to buy an alleyhoops curated sample pack !