Not sure I follow you hereI ' m not saying it ' s directly related to the Order their philosophies are actually opposites but suggesting that the Old Ways of the Psijic and Veloth ' s teachings shared an earlier shared influences . The diverge from the very beginning , but are different take aways from a simular frame of reference . came by the Psijic Endeavor teaching during his exodus ? I think he had it in mind from the start . Mind you , he didn ' t have a road map all the way to the end , but offered what he had . He had the triangle starting gate for the path that would lead them to start the journey to discover it . After his culture was molded enough , one of them would be able to seize the goal of transcendence .