TEAM MYSTIC BEST TEAM <| sep |> I thought I felt some fuckery while browsing all this morning . I noticed less TD posts and 2 new subredits I have never seen before . rimpeachtrump and rnevertrump . FUCKERY and ASTROTERFFING <| sep |> SBC was at half 2 <| sep |> Again Faster was in a bad place for a while , so I never really considered them . Those black plates look pretty good , at a reasonable price for the set . Shipping is $ 228 to me though , more than I ' d like . Redback Elites are the same design as Pendlay Elites . I ' ve owned Pendlay Black Elites for 45 years and they ' ve been great . If you can get them on sale , they ' ll do you well . The $ 999 deal for the 140 kg set of Coloured Elites is one of the best deals around right now , especially as they have the cheapest shipping by far . They ' re also run by the same people as Muscle Driver AUS who ' ve always been reliable . Those Hellion plates look nice . They might be the same as Rogue Competition plates , with that more matte finish rubber , thin raised edge , and raised logos . Their other less fancy looking type of Elites they have are the standard Pendlay design . They also have those premium 5 kg plates which appear to be Victory plates , or ripoffs of them . Iron Edge used to sell them and I think their site said they were made by Uesaka . They ' re apparently the best 5 kg bumpers you can get , though I have no desire to use 5 kg bumpers . All of their plates seem suspiciously cheap though , and I have not heard of Hellion as a company before . Apparently they are a pretty major Crossfit company . Their fanciest raised logo bumper set is only $ 1150 AUD for a full set . If they are indeed the same as Rogue Competition plates , I don ' t see how they ' re doing that , because Rogue sells them for $ 1035 USD . Their shipping price is pretty damn high though , giving $ 260 for a full set to me in WA . Versus Redback with $ 58 . Canberra vs NSW . They also have rather nice looking change plates at way cheaper prices than Rogue or Klokov . Their barbells are a bit strange too . Their $ 900 bar looks pretty crap , with knurling that doesn ' t go all the way to the sleeve and fades out , and the sleeve collar looks very thick . Like a cheap bar . Their $ 500 bar looks a lot better . So I don ' t know where that money went . I have not heard of NC Fitness either . I like that design , black with coloured edges . It ' s not common . Uesaka has long done it , Eleiko used to do a black with a thin coloured line . Zhang Kong ' s current training plates are probably the closest to these NC Fitness plates . Only they are different , because none of the IWF companies use the same diameter steel hub on all their plate sizes , but all these cheaper Crossfit companies do . Even the new Klokov plates do . This results in skinny , hard and annoying 10 kgs especially . All the IWF companies have a better rubber to metal ratio in their 10 s , using a progressively larger hub for each plate increment , probably at the cost of higher price and labour due to dealing in four different sizes of metal and rubber molds and whatnot . The new ABC plates appear to be the same design that many companies use , that look a lot like or are the same as Eleiko Sport . I ' m guessing they introduced them because it ' s not 2002 any more and people expect to not have to pay two or three grand for a set of bumpers that don ' t have ' IWF Competition ' on the side . A lot of people have said good things about the Eleiko Sport plates , but who knows if all these other brands are actually the same , or have the same amount of quality control etc . I ' m fairly certain that all the plates on the ABC site are per plate , not pair . So these are very expensive for what they are . I ' d be more interested in their original bumpers , but only if I asked for and received a really good deal .