Deflect and defense spin are still separate . However , defense spin got a buff 25 % dmg reduction for all hits instead of 1 Maelstrom can be used for both since it ' s a separate skill nowLightning got lightning sunder and lightning typhoon Wind got wind draw and wind flashWind 2 is daze , Lightning 2 is still stun Wind V is stun , Lightning V is still daze All are double cc <| sep |> Just curious . Why ? <| sep |> 1796 was kind of a mess as well , we wound up with a president and vice president that were opposed to each other . <| sep |> Really ? I played him a bunch last season only normals smurf and thought he was decent and he feels worse to me . He was always kind of competing with Vi for a lot of stuff , and vi seems to have been affected much more positively by new season than him