That ' s exactly the kind of problematic viewpoint that udungone was talking about . Making comp sci in university less competitive so that others can fit in doesn ' t make sense , it ' s like the army decreasing the entry requirements so that woman can make it . That ' s not what I ' m saying at all . I ' m not talking about decreasing requirements or making it less difficult . I ' m talking about a stupid cultural problem that alienates students , both male and female alike . No we should go and fix the root of the problem . My point is that it ' s not the entire story . This toxic culture causes people to leave . Women more so than men . The women that have been programming since age 10 they exist ! are not really part of this cultural problem . It seems to be a male thing to want to publicly compete .