Try jumping out randomly and running for it you will usually make it <| sep |> UT 2003 Is there really a huge difference between this and UT 2 k 4 ? <| sep |> I thought it was December originally . <| sep |> Especially when you play like a weirdo , as i do , Inverted . It means , an oversight i ' m sure , that everything on the commswheel is inverted too . lol <| sep |> Removed it . Sorry for forgetting . <| sep |> It is physically impossible to never kill anything . This is true , but I think it ' s important to make an effort to not harm sentient beings , and I don ' t appreciate that you put the word exploit in quotation marks when I told you that farm animals are subjected to pain , exhaustion and death on the regular for our purposes . Even backyard chickens , as I explained . There ' s a difference between plants , fungi and animals in the way that they process information because only animals process information on a conscious level . Only their death can be meaningful , because only they can have feelings and minds . Plants , fungi and bacteria are nothing more than biological machines , and you wouldn ' t feel sad about a machine breaking down . Also , I ' m willing to bet you don ' t care about bacteria dying . Honestly , that sounds like nothing more than concern trolling . I ' m unsure if you ' re doing that on purpose though . You may also be fooling yourself with the whole I do it so they get to experience lifething . Maybe that ' s the justification your mind came up with , but maybe it ' s really just an excuse to keep doing what you ' re doing . I posted the link to this paperrightslibrary . comtextscsalt 02 . htm earlier already , but I ' m not certain you ' ve read it . It concerns the whole existence versus nonexistence thing and the prolifeantisuffering debate you mentioned . I think it ' s critical that you read it , as it may give you a different perspective . Lastly , something being too out there is not an argument . I know how uncommon veganism is although that ' s changing , but I opted in because it makes sense , is compassionate and more in line with my set of morals . I can reason in favor of it , so hopefully that has shown you that we ' re not just crazy vegetarians . Here ' s hoping you will come around someday . I ' ve given you a lot of information and I hope that you look at it with open eyes . Sorry for my snarkiness , it ' s just something that I feel very strongly about .