Thank you for your comment ! Unfortunately , it has been removed for the following reasons Not following wikireddiquette . Ditch the header formattingIf you feel this action was taken in error , would like better clarification , or need further assistance , please message the modsmessagecompose ? to % 2 Fr % 2 FEliteDangeroussubjectMod % 20 Action % 20 FollowupmessageRegarding this post do not reply to this comment . Please remember to check the rEliteDangerouswrules page before doing so . Thank you ! <| sep |> Those of us that raided actively on Nostalrius know that most of ur bis gear won ' t come from raid . So the people topping meters weren ' t people in full raid gear but full preraid bis . As a hunter there were a few upgrades i got from preAV patch gear belt , bracers , boots but most of ur bis gear came outside of raid . We had hunters come in doing literally the same damage as me even though i had every piece i could use out of MC and they had 0 . Obviously 1 . 45 came around and i got to use my 88 t 1 which , was a much bigger dps increase . As far as difficulty , i can ' t speak for others but i suspect it ' s the same , MC is a joke . You could have 30 shit geared dps go into MC and clear it as long as your tanks got their FR for rag and your healers got mana pots . When we progressed through MC on the pve realm we got alliance second kill , realm 4 th the only thing holding us back from getting our rag kill the same week as the other guild was our rep and our tanks .