that ' s not what ' s happening though , i gave you a reasonable reply and you came at me guns blazing with your caps lock and dictionary of foul language . <| sep |> I stretch and dock at the same time . I dock with my left hand pressing down with the blade of my hand and stretch with my right hand laid flat . I do this turning the dough clockwise . You may need to reverse the turn and hands to make it comfortable for you . I used to finger dock then palm stretch but that wasn ' t nearly fast enough . My large pep time went from 31 seconds to 22 seconds after I changed my technique . <| sep |> To be fair , this distinction is in eye of the beholder . <| sep |> It ' s funny that as soon as he smiled you could tell exactly who he is .