Did he really lose clean at Survivor Series though ? It was 2 v 1 . Also don ' t forget that in this time he beat Kevin Owens , the main champ , clean while being the secondary title holder . <| sep |> ofcourse this is first think that came to my mine . <| sep |> I can ' t say I can think of any bad turbo cars , in almost all situations it improves the car for what the turbo is designed to do . If anything they don ' t delude the personality of the car , they simply change it . Furthermore , this personality you speak of is merely a coming together of mechanical and electronic engineering . That falling in love wth a car , is basically falling in love with an engineer that designed it to be that way . Simply put if you drive a car , and you don ' t love it , then it wasn ' t made to suite your desires . Some people who are huge NA fans see turbos as cheating or if a Turbo ends up in a car that has been NA power its whole life as sacrilegious . Someone might call a bad turbo car if this type of engine doesn ' t belong here like say if General Motors unveiled the C 8 Corvette and they put a 3 . 0 L V 6 with a turbo in it . Sure it makes 450 horsepower and gets 20 % better fuel economy , but it will piss of Corvette guys to no end . Put a turbocharged all aluminum V 8 in it and they will cry tears of joy as they do 35 mph on their way to church with their 600 horsepower V 8 automatic sports car , while they complain about back pain . I personally would welcome a change like this , it shows new ideas and and different minds working on the projects of the future . But I also can ' t argue against how cool a Turbo V 8 would be in a Corvette from the factory braces for down votesAt the end of the day , any time I catch someone complaining about what is new because its not what is old , I see as someone who is afraid of change . Sorry cell phones don ' t just dial and call any longer but can bring your pornography anywhere you want , sorry that turbo 4 cylinder engines make as much power as mid 90 s V 8 engines , and get double the fuel economy and produce 13 the emissions , and sorry that you have to plug in your electric car and never have to visit a gas station again , because people actually complain about this shit .