Thx for the reply but I ' ve already tried all of that . Like I said , everything was running find when I started it from my own laptop . Could be an extra port that blocking it maybe ? The server is at work behind a better firewall so maybe it ' s a standard port that ' s open for home users <| sep |> Your fantasies disturb me . <| sep |> Yep , I assume Roger is saying Gmax basically took a problem scenario he mused about happening 25 years in the future and made it happen today . Now he ' s lying in the bed he made . <| sep |> 2717 MIA for the 6 game win streak <| sep |> Holy shit ! !! I grew up playing that game . <| sep |> It ' s most often because they ' ve been told it ' s wrong , something is wrong with them or something of that nature . Self hate happens from within but it is also influenced by outside things .