Invite me monjodav <| sep |> And how could you have been sure before ? <| sep |> Yeah , it ' s not like the expectations of countries to join EU are very vague . I am Turkish voting for an opposition party . All those talks about How Europe doesn ' t want Turks is just a scapegoat excuse for failing to meet certain standards that are clear and more precise than people give them credit . Turkey has been trying to meet those standards for some time , and as Turkey ' s status improved , relations with Europe have improved . For the last 45 years , Turkey ' s status deteriorated and its relations with Europe were hurt . In 2009 , the relations with most European countries were so much better . Where was this hate for Turkey no matter what Turkey does then ? The reality is , countries make decisions based on facts . And facts are that Turkey is now a liability to Europe , even without joining . How would they accept Turkey into EU membership in these conditions ? Turkey needs a government change , and it needs it ASAP . Democratic institutions in Turkey must be stronger . Justice system needs to be uncorrupted . These are things that must be done for Turkey , whether or not EU existed , we need better government , better education , less corruption , less hatebased politics . We also need to make peace with our Kurdish citizens . These things , we must do no matter what . Whether or not EU accepts Turkey as a members state or not . Therefore , all this talk about prejudice about Turkey is actually not based on facts . True , there is some kind of prejudice that has historical precedent , but that ' s nothing new to our species , and nothing that cannot be overcome . It is sad that it exists , and it is obvious some citizens of EU nations have some kind of hatred towards Turks . But those right wing parties have that kind of hatred towards their own country ' s institutions as well , hence the rise of fachism in Europe . It is not something we can discuss in the context of EUTurkish relations . EU ' s expectations from Turkey are fair and undertstandable . Our politicians need to stop blaming third parties and look at the conditions they created .