Here are 10 bear pelts I literally just stole out of random houses . Bears terrify me , good luck there ' s probably more than before <| sep |> Its a long story , but i guess the answer is pure chance although I ' m sure someone does it professionally . Long story is he is a very social middle aged entrepreneur . He has a few startupscompanies of his own small ones mind you , think like teaches skiblading classes and hes always been very creative and very risky . He hired me for a long term project he had had it for 3 years and i worked with him for several years before things slowed down . During that slow down time , he met some folks who wanted an app made , and figured ' what the heck '. He knew i was available , he asked if i wanted to do it , and proposed that he manage the project through his consulting company and I would bill him directly . I gave him my hourly rate and he agreed , so I said ' fuck it ', if he can make money on top of it and i don ' t have to deal with the client directly , go for it . He ' s very social , outgoing , fun , vibrant guy . He knows a lot of people and is good at managing them and their expectations . He was never a dev but has loads of experience in managing teams and does know a lot of devopsy stuff and can talk the talk when it comes to industry knowledge . He essentially comes to me with a project , i say yesno , and we move on from there . A major part of it is you can ' t care about how much the total cost of the project is , because thats when you get people on this sub posting about pettiness like ' my dev shop bills for $ 250 an hour when I only make $ 30 an hour , I ' m getting scammed ! '. I have my hourly rate , and if that changes I let him know , and thats how we deal . If his sweet tongue manages to get more or less on top of that from a client , or he wants to charge the client a flat fee hoping I can complete it in under that , I can ' t get in a tiff about it . Matter of fact I stay out of it completely . I think a lot of it just comes straight from mutual respect and trust . We do also have a slightly more personal relationship i . e . It wouldn ' t be unusual for me to stop and say hi to his wife , play with his kids , go for beers or go for dinner at his place every blue moon and i genuinely adore the hell out of his kids , so I don ' t think I really show any reason to ever screw him lolETA That said , you can find folks who want this type of relationship . Most often I ' ve found Devs and PMs that would love something like this , provided your contract allows it . The biggest thing to look out for is someone who is personable , networks easilywell , is transparent , and isn ' t trying to build their entire business off of it .