Mountain Jam is only about 12 , 000 , Summer Dance in Ohio s even smaller , Werk Out festival also in Ohio , Hillside in Guelph . That ' s just off the top of my head . The other poster covered the one near Sudbury which I ' ve heard good things about on this sub . <| sep |> There is a reason they don ' t have any giants on the island . My presumption is that she was to marry a giant and decided not to which caused a lot of tension between the two groups . <| sep |> Shot down is a general term . You could also say they sat on it and refused to vote on it , effectively shooting it down . Don ' t be obtuse . <| sep |> Hillary would have been more of the same , except even worse . Hillary didn ' t even try to hide that she is totally in the pocket of Goldman Sachs , Wall Street , drugs companies , Monsanto and other multinationals . Obama and his sychophantic media hacks tried to maintain a pretense that Obama wasn ' t . It would have been tougher to hide it with Hillary ' s Corporatist excesses .