an multiply that out for a whole year , which is normally what we take stats for and you have ' tons ' s <| sep |> I have 45 friends that are lined up to try this game when it goes f 2 p and they will most likely love it cause they like the same games I do . <| sep |> Wasn ' t Dennis the one fighting for Magnussen keep his seat , by trying to convince Dutch sponsors would step up and carry some of the burden ? In any case I don ' t know what comments like this really achieve . <| sep |> I also got lightning buddy . Congratz ! <| sep |> Thank you for explanation ! <| sep |> And a cat named OK Google <| sep |> Never succeded . I always end up dead <| sep |> Good shit ! <| sep |> Right ? They tried that , it doesn ' t work in reality . <| sep |> Also , being a Blizzard fanboy doesnt mean I cannot judge things objectively . I can agree with this , but it is much harder for someone to win objectively when they hear an argument from a blizzard fanboy rather than just someone who claims to have experience from multiple titles . every point I made in my comment is objectively and logically argued . Logically argued , yes . Objective , no . You named nothing remotely negative about hots aside from it needs more content . Plus your argument on talents vs items is flawed if you ' re comparing to dota and league . You lumped your experience of all three together , but I can already argue how dota has more diversity of items versus hots in talents . The majority of dota items have active abilities in addition to stat increases , while the vast majority of talents are passives that enhance your basic abilities . Not to mention an overwhelming amount of talents that are not even touched which results in cookie cutter builds for a majority of the heroes with a few niche talents . Is there toxicity in this game ? Of course there is , it ' s a moba . It is literally no different from league , dota , hon , smite , etc . There ' s just no all chat in game . There doesn ' t have to be , because the team bickers with themselves , constantly . Sugar coating it by saying well it ' s not as bad as other mobas does no justice . It ' s very much the same as other mobas , just no all chat . pointing out which game elements make it feel better for you and arguing why , is a reasonable answer , regardless of the player being a fanboy . I can agree with that , but as I said and maybe it ' s just me anyone who says they ' re a fanboy and would play regardless of quality doesn ' t win over the objective argument . I ' m a fan of Blizzard as well , I ' ve been playing their games since Warcraft orcs humans . I ' m also moba fan , and played almost every moba in existence , even ones that have been abandoned like Dawngate and Guardians of Middle Earth . If I were to try and objectively sell the points of the game to someone , I wouldn ' t mention being a fanboy of one over the other . Again , maybe it ' s just me . I do appreciate you for trying to keep the hots community healthy , because I too wish to see the game do well .