All this salt is making me drink lots of water with thanksgiving dinner <| sep |> Is it at all common for these watches to be this price <| sep |> Can segwit raise it beyond the . 8 mb efficiency increase ? As long as we get segwit why not also increase AT LEAST A LITTLE ? ? I don ' t see the risk in COMPROMISE and working together instead of stale mating until obsolescence . Payment chans LN is very exciting to me but it only makes sense when you terminate on the chain or else its just an sql database far as I can tell . BOTH ! seems to be the logical answer not either or . Lets get rid of THE CONTENTION core supporters are scared of UNLIMITED size as that can lead to Centralization but most are Not dead set against a small and reasonable increase . Big blockers are worried about diminishing the on chain value and reducing the TX fee revenue and incentive of miners . By letting them have some more blockspace it will allow onchain to compete a bit better with LN solutions while also giving miners revenue of termination of ln transactions . Transactions volume will probably not drop much and will be offset 2 x 10 x by BTC price explosion IMO . The miners pie percentage drops 20 % but the pie increases 500 % its a no brainer . Also keep in mind rootstock and the like and other uses for the chain beyond the norm . We for sure will need 2 mb onchain and maybe later 4 mb JUST NOT 200 MB . With no more contentions HF is non problematic especially with fore knowledge of mining pools . So we get segwit they get what they want we all win .