why did god let 2 innocent children get stabbed in the neck and bleed out like stuck pigs in the first place ? An event like this will either drive somebody towards religion or away from it . <| sep |> I don ' t think Tryharding is the right word here . <| sep |> Joepie , bedankt ! Ik maakte eigenlijk ook een grapje , maar was de smiley vergeten . <| sep |> Am I the only one disappointed there is no black friday sale Was really hoping to spend some dough . <| sep |> Haha yeah . It usually takes me about a week or so to grind it out so I ' m expecting the same time frame for this one but it normally takes my FC mates months to finish theirs . <| sep |> I don ' t want to be a government employee . Who said you ' d have to be a government employee ? Although most clinics in many single payer systems are public , private clinics are also very common . I imagine a singlepayer system in the US would change almost nothing about how clinics is administered . Deprivatizing hospitals and clinics would never be accepted . Basically they ' d probably just replace the insurance companies , but otherwise keep things mostly the same . Perhaps just requiring more transparency and being tougher on negotiating drug prices . Incidentally , why do you think you wouldn ' t be paid market rate as a government employee ? Here in Norway , doctors working at public hospitals are very well paid . Not as well as in the US maybe , but we have free education and extremely cheap and friendly student loans for living costs , with parts of the loan converted to scholarship if you pass exams . so I ' d imagine unless the US has an education reform , you ' d get paid better to cover higher student loans . See . this is the problem with discourse in the US . You seem to think that the alternative is basically fullout socialism . You seem to argue against an imaginary alternative , creating problems where you could instead be finding new solutions . But if you actually use your imagination , and take a problemsolving approach , there are hundreds of alternatives . Europe started out with pure socialist systems , but has generally privatized a lot while still keeping it singlepayer . It ' d be informative for you and other americans to study how these systems have developed .