Very clever how ' s that working out for u <| sep |> Man where was this objective criticism of Norman like a year ago ? No way is he an antagonizing type of player s all good in my book . This new discovery is mind blowing . <| sep |> Thanks ! We both have family in a couple of different countries in Asia , so thinking of making two separate trips next year to visit family travel to parts of Asia that neither of us has been to yet . These points should definitely cover us ! <| sep |> I got the energy within 3 days l could tell because l went for a 5 k hike at 5 am , and normal me doesn ' t do that . Trade off is l don ' t have the water weight drop , and l get less sleep on Keto . I only get 5 or so hours while everyone here seems to be getting more restful sleep .