Target and some other stores begin Black Friday Thanksgiving night . <| sep |> I lived at Grandeville too , over priced , rude management after IRET , our apt reeked of cigs and they dragged their feet hard to do anything about it . 25 . Apartment lay out was nice though . <| sep |> Well act fast , your window of opportunity is closing <| sep |> The thing is , the last I heard Destiny does offer genuine community outreach . I ' d never want to mess with them , apparently it ' s a good place for gang members to reform , given it ' s loaded with reformed exgang members . Clearly I ' m not alone in having some distaste for the ostentatious appearance of its leaders and the nature of the church ' s values both in regards to money and morals . But I think churches like Destiny exist in large part because the wider community gives them the opportunity to thrive . There are a lot of desperate people in our communities and churches are the very definition of somewhere to turn when you don ' t have anywhere to turn . Destiny has a great thing going in that they are genuinely able to help turn people ' s lives around , and then take a cut of the resulting benefits . I mean , if you ' re a lost soul in NZ , maybe not looking for God , just some love and friendship , maybe a bit of meaning . But you ' re shit at all that . Where do you turn with at least some sense that you might be set in the right direction ? There ' s definitely stuff about , but nothing that competes with Destiny .