A few hours . If you would like to try for yourself make sure to hold down b ! <| sep |> Honestly , the point of break here is when you stop assuming all of this is done in good faith . If you run with the assumption that place actually gives a shit about lesbians , and helps them associate with each other and discuss their experiences and interests , you will run into a lot of contradictions like the ones you name in your post . If however you assume they ' re disingenuous fuckers who actually more or less loathe ACTUAL lesbians , and are only interested in hijacking their spaces and filling it with their shit because they ' re not capable of coming up with their own shit , and crossing women ' s and especially lesbians ' boundaries gets them off , then things start to make a little bit more sense . Do you know who mods that place ? A heterosexual couple . A bisexual who I think calls herself a lesbian and her trans male girlfriend . That should pretty much tell you all you need to know . You wanna know what actual purpose AL serves ? It ' s a place where bisexuals and trans males can go to get validation from lesbians . I mean think about it , why would anyone REFUSE to make their own little corner , and instead hope to mooch of off someone else ' s ? Lesbians are the only ones in that place that sometimes mildly express the need for a place similar to this , everyone else loves it there because they love how they can gaslight , control and humiliate lesbians all under their own banner . It only makes sense people would even prefer to have their own corners . But no , it ' s not good enough for bisexuals to associate with other bisexuals , they want lesbian validation . It ' s not good enough for trans males to talk to other trans males , they need to be accepted as a lesbian when they have exactly nothing in common with real lesbians . If all of them were indeed so amazing and brave and liberated unlike those bigoted lesbians , then why don ' t they find thrill in associating with each other ? And it ' s not like lesbians outnumber them or something , so that lesbian voice is predominant in every conversation by default . There are more bisexuals than lesbians alone , but bisexuals would specifically rather ruin lesbian spaces and turn it into dick talk than make their own . Really boggles the mind , but I guess they feel the need to purify themselves after their selfperceived degradation of fucking men too . Both bisexuals and trans males use lesbians to purify themselves from their own selfperceived tainting by maleness . This is why they go off at topics like ladydicks and gold star . Because they can ' t own what they are , they can ' t be reminded of who they are , they need to pretend they are exactly the same way as us , and so their affiliation with males in one way or another needs to be worshiped and embraced by lesbians , the one group that is not about that . It ' s an obsession with lesbian purity and tainting it . And like fuck that , I ' m not a rag you can use to clean yourself with . Work out your issues and build your own identity and sense of community by yourself . Just leave us alone .