Ill take a top centre and top defenseman any day of the week . When was the last time that the undisputed best goalie won a cup ? Maybe Brodeur ? Would he have won witout Neidermeyer and Stevens ? Cuz he didn ' t win shit once those guys left . <| sep |> excals # 3 is still meh past like lvl 30 I don ' t understand why people say this ? I mean , it has a slight CC , and it isn ' t meant to oneshot enemies , I would like it if its augment worked with Radial Javelin itself too but , if it doesn ' t kill , cast again or use guns . There is hardly any AoE ability that can kill high level enemies with 1 casting . Or how saryn ' s survivability past 50 is assI take Saryn to level 100 Eximus sorties , she is tanky enough and I don ' t even use block or Regenerative Molt . trinity ' s # 1 is still an absolute waste of spaceAgreed but that has nothing to do with her rework . and his # 1 is still mehLike this has nothing to do with Nekros ' rework . Volt ' s aight if you throw away the idea his 4 should do damage at high levelsI mean if you rely on abilities for damage in high level , there is hardly any ability that isn ' t an Exalted Weapon that deals good damage . Abilities , especially AoE abilities are better for CC .