The electoral college woke up . <| sep |> Well not anymore at least . I can ' t unsee that ! <| sep |> Its not like you should never participate in fights before level 16 . You can join if you have some heroes who can lock down . Like you can work with a void . If you try to fight and lose the fight or get killed in it then you will be behind in farm and levels which you could have got if you just helped with sunstrike . You can keep your forge spirit pushing and try a euls combo . But i think that euls combo is good only for solo pickoff . its not that good in team fights . <| sep |> Ok , I play PvP mostly against 2 kind of people known PvPers , and traders . The first one is just a brawl fight and is plain awesome . The second one is part of my career choice , i mostly leave my victims leave alive if they comply and this end up making amazing interactions , be it a story to tell like some Bounty hunter getting in the middle of things . 2 m 21 smost of the times i don ' t need the kill to be happy . Now talking about the ruins case . I imagine it as a Roleplay stuff , Scavenger are not always friendly and don ' t want you to mess with their loot , so if someone in lawless territory thinks that this loot is theirs only it fine by me . I ' ll try to find a sneaky way over them . The biggest problem with player in elite is because they see a ship and they think they are always friendly unicorns that will share his place with him , and they are not ! see a ship , it ' s a CMDR then eyes open .