You guys wouldn ' t mind letting us have 6 in a row right ? <| sep |> It only knows screech <| sep |> Can you provide any other details ? Even if you think it may be insignificant . It may help us help you . <| sep |> Looks like Vancouver aha <| sep |> But the boredom , man . Think about the BOREDOM <| sep |> You have to be a couple to be with your family on Thanksgiving ? <| sep |> Maybe there should be a meetup there one day . <| sep |> Oh . Well , I feel old as fuck . <| sep |> you should kick the can if you think BU is a real solution <| sep |> I also love how you can ' t target this card however will hit it . <| sep |> Maybe just a little . <| sep |> So I ' m a vegan , but I think that it should be fine to kill humans for food . It isn ' t . But it should be . We would need to reduce the humans to ~ plant level first , though . I ' d find it somewhat difficult to justify killing plants for food otherwise . As such , if you insist on eating animals , I think you should just bite the bullet and accept that there ' s no good reason that it shouldn ' t be morally OK to eat humans . Provided the humans in question are at ~ animal level . What exactly animal level entails is a separate question . I reached this conclusion largely after reaching my reasons for why killing people is wrong . I think the reasons it ' s wrong to kill a human generally speaking are 1 As a human , if we lived without order , one of the most pressing threats to my safety would be other humans . Other humans feel the same way . As such , there is utility in banding together to ensure that we do not kill each other . I don ' t want to have to waste time worrying about being killed . 2 There are several other humans I care about . I would not like to see them killed . Even if I don ' t have any real emotional connection to them , they might still produce something useful I ' d hate to see that not occur . The author of the video mentioned these two points individually caring isn ' t the reason we don ' t kill other people . Neither is power . But when you combine the two , you ' re stuck with a balancing act . If your alliance is too small , you still have to worry about other alliances killing you , so you can gain utility by growing your alliance . If your alliance is too large , there ' s nobody left to kill , because there ' s going to be somebody in your alliance who wants to protect the victim . Therefore if you start killing people , you risk fracturing the alliance and reducing utility . That is , it ' s wrong to kill the hermit because there ' s some jerk in our alliance who has this pesky thing called empathy towards other humans . And we don ' t want to fracture our alliance by alienating that jerk . In the strongweak doodle , we don ' t know who ' s playing which role . That one could be wrong because of the empathy jerk . Or it could be wrong because the weak person is in our alliance . Or a few other things . So that ' s why it ' s wrong to kill humans to eat them when we don ' t need to . There might be other reasons to kill humans , but just to eat them is not one . Now , consider the fetus . If we take the Thompson route and consider it a human , is it morally OK to kill a fetus to eat it ? Say it was grown in a vat so we don ' t need to worry about the safety of the mother . Let ' s make this fetus a hermit it has no real connections to anybody else . This is why I say it should be OK to eat humans . I don ' t think there ' s any good reason to care about this fetus . And there is no risk of an army of fetuses rising up and overthrowing our alliance . Sure it might eventually grow up to create something useful , but so might millions of sperm . You don ' t care about sperm , do you ? There were some resources that would be wasted if we simply killed it , but we ' re eating it . We spend resources to eat things all the time . So why is it wrong to kill this fetus and eat it ? Because some jerks this time I ' m not being facetious would get pretty pissed off at us if we started doing that . To the point where our alliance might fracture . The fractured alliance is not worth that fetus meat . It might be worth stem cells . But food is easy to find . As a vegan , I ' m the jerk who cares about animals enough to not kill them . There ' s reasons that I care about them , but those reasons are unrelated to the question of killing them . What matters is that I care . Unfortunately for the animals , I don ' t care nearly enough about them to ally myself with them against you . And even if I did , once I turned against you , the web of caring wouldn ' t protect me . The web only wants me to not be ~ randomly murdered . The web is a lot more understanding when the motive is defense that ' s what the alliance is for , after all . As such , I ' m stuck pushing for people to care about animals . Possibly to the point where they ' d turn against those who don ' t . Until there ' s enough of us to make you stop . At which point it would become wrong for you to kill animals . Even if you couldn ' t see a good reason for it . In other words , even as a vegan , I wasn ' t particularly convinced by the arguments presented in this video . As such , I wouldn ' t be surprised if others aren ' t . That ' s the musings of somebody who believes that utilitarianism and relativism aren ' t mutually exclusive ethical frameworks .