59 to tie and 51 to win in OT . <| sep |> Exmormon here . We had suicide pacts in our temple prior to 1990 and still covenant to sacrifice all we have to the church . Dont let the mormons get into government they already run Utah . <| sep |> who loves logic and hates philosophy That seems strange . Philosophy and logic are very much relatedI guess that logic is very much related to a small portion of philosophy , the rest is just meaningless ramble that can be disproved with a simple says who ? , when it ' s not just flat out wrong . How do you justify the choice of logical axioms ? Physical observation ? Physical observation of course take a rock , take another rock , wow you now have 2 rocks , d 56 mrlh . jpg and it matches our intuition . I didn ' t want to say that while we were talking about intuitionism lol Basically ZFC captures well ? our intuition of a collection of objects . I don ' t think that they dictate anythingWhat I meant is that the fact that they had a philosophical reason for their choice of axioms doesn ' t mean we all need one , I , and lots of people I bet , are pretty content with our utilitarian reasoning . but rather raise interesting ideasThis is true , and I guess you can find here why I hate philosophy intuitionistic logic is pretty interesting although I ' m not that familiar with it , this is logic and is fine claiming it ' s the right one , this is philosophy and I fucking hate it . There is no reason to say intuitionistic logic is more right than propositional , first order , whatever logic . he does raise some very interesting points about arithmetics of large numbersI ' ll try to watch it with an open mind then !