It does reduce vortex nade damage though , dot or not . <| sep |> well then I guess nothing is stopping me from reading them <| sep |> I really hope you guys are right and I have to eat my words ! <| sep |> I was referencing how your claims do things like take pronouns are members of a closed class and simply run with it as if this somehow forecloses all possibility of social change , which is junk a priori argument . I ' m not saying that it forecloses all possibility of social change . That would be stupid . I ' m saying that it ' s a damn good predictor of it though . That ' s where I would put my money , if I were a betting man . I ' m wondering why you are so quick to dismiss it ? Why everyone is so quick to make snap judgments , and label those who point out the difference between closed and open classes of words as bigots ? You misunderstand the point of the Marathon bar comment yes it ' s a member of an open class of words and I bloody well understand that fact , but as I pointed out , and as you didn ' t even read , this case seems to suggest that changing the name is a matter of how you do it , rather than whether it ' s possible . Ubiquitous advertising is pretty handy . It ' s not just that it ' s a member of an open class . It ' s a proper name . Of course it ' s easy to change your own proper name by advertising , or even asking . Why you think this bears any relation to changing ANY other kind of word , let alone pronouns , is beyond me . What more do you want me to say about this ? I think it ' s a bad comparison . Show me an instance of advertising generating a shift in verb usage and I ' ll at least acknowledge that you ' re paying attention . Show me an instance of advertising generating a shift in any closed class of words and then you ' ll have a point . But proper names ? I ' m only clarifying so that you can think through the implications of all this because all of your arguments so far seem to consist of developing one counterclaim to the idea you want to challenge and then acting like you don ' t need to develop it any further in the face of criticism . That ' s funny , because I really think that I am responding to counterclaims . I do find the other side ' s arguments very easily addressed . Like your marathon bar example . No offense intended , but I ' ve thought about this for a long time , and I ' ve written about it extensively , and it doesn ' t seem like you have , although I could be wrong . I am an undergraduate student , technically a third year student , and a very good student . I intend to pursue graduate studies in clinical psychology . My first year at university was fifteen years ago though 911 happened in my first week at university , so no , I am not new at this , but like I said , I have recently returned . What exactly is it that you think I am not grasping ?