Thanks for all the answers . I ' ve decided to go for a T 420 or T 430 . As I see it , I ' m getting more bang for my buck , and I don ' t really need the laptop to be any smaller or lighter , so it seems a waste to pay a slightly higher price for an Xmodel . The i 3 x 201 I posted about earlier is very cheap , but my gut tells me that I will notice its age before long . Again . Thanks everyone <| sep |> Si comme a ils laissent les gens normaux en paix . <| sep |> It ' s not one or the other lol <| sep |> No because VGS is domiciled ? here in Aus . The W 8 BBN form only applies to VEU and VTS afaik . <| sep |> Warbs is injured and our depth at 6 is atrocious . Really not a fan of King . Turnbull and Shungler are not international standard . Not sure picking a newbie 7 at 6 next to Tips is wise against the Boks either . Then again id rather try something new than do the same old shit and be surprised Lydiate still sucks .