V SKill IS instant armored . its 1 of two moves that have it in the game . i have played against some great giefs who wake up with flex on me and makes it work , they just know when to do it . it doesnt beat as many options as a DP but its a great tool to have in the set when someone is trying to CC you for example . it doesnt carry the same risk either . As far as EX SPD being irrelevant , i disagree . I wakeup with ex SPDs with birdie plenty , really turns the tide against a command throw matchup . its a tool in the arsenal , cant say he has absolutely zero wakeup cause he still has options that lots of characters DONT have . you dont need heavies to outrange necalli either . his only move that outranges gief jab is st HK 12 frame startup . i never said the match was gief favor or 55 , i just said he does fine in this matchup meaning he does not need an alt to deal with it .