LOL , I have to agree . Just so sad she is that misinformed <| sep |> Haha what ' s your psn I might have to add you instead <| sep |> You can find the changes in Surrender at 20 , in the latest PBE update . To be honest , I feared the Rylai changes , but now that I see what they ' ve done I ' m fine with it . Firstly they made Haunting Guise and Liandry cheaper by 100 g in compensation , which is always nice since it ' s what we rush anyway , and the Rylai nerfs aren ' t to hard . Yes , 100 hp and 25 AP are something , but now it costs 2600 instead of 3200 , which made a difference of 600 gold ! And that ' s really huge imo , mostly for Support Zyra . Moreover , the slow nerf doesn ' t really hurts her , since they already nerfed her plants interaction with the slow to that amount already and that was what ' s you build Rylai for . slowing with ranged plantsSo yeah , that ' s really good news to Zyra , if you still go Liandry Rylai you can finish you core items a lot faster , vs going for Luden you need 700 less gold than before , which is incredible Sure Rylai is less good than it was before , but it was really too strong and he ' s still gonna be great on Zyra now imo .