there was 50 ks this hour <| sep |> free press , , freepress . gr freepress . gr <| sep |> Agreed on number of partners . You can run the harmony hub through SmartThings though . I couldnt tell if you had SmartThings already but it is only 50 bucks and aggregates all my stuff to one screen . Many of them have their own phone apps too but I don ' t like going to a thermostat , garage door , lights , etc . I standardized on zwave switches awhile back and had a different hub and paid service then . I ditched that and went to SmartThings and it has been good . Maybe you know this but a great thing about hubs is that is where automation . I had some workbench lights that wer super high up they would have been hard to climb up and turn on . I just set an automation to turn them on whenever the garage lights go on and off when it goes off . I have my door lock and outside lights go on at sunset and off at sunrise . Few clicks to automate and boom . I do a late night sweep of lights in case kids forgot them , etc . I think you would need IFTT to control your Kasa plugs through google , it would probably do your harmony too if you want to go hubless . Anyway , just thoughts , just having home automation is so wonderful and am sure you love it . I had mine for years before the Echo came out and voice made it so much better !