i couldnt manage to breed a male vuplix unfortunately , but the male mareanie is 4 IV iirc ! tft ! <| sep |> cute and hot <| sep |> Firstly , you said take any 4 vector and you see that time slows down as velocity increases , always . The velocity four vector is by no means the only four vector . We have the electric current fourvector ji for example , as it is used in the relativistic Maxwell Equations A 4 ji . Thus stating that any fourfactor will prove your point is wrong . Your velocity can be represented as x 2 y 2 z 2 t 2 c 2 No , it actually cannot . The Minkovski metric is eitherdiag 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 or diag 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , depending on your convention . Thus , the foursquare of the velocity four vector is the inner product with itselfvi 2 viviviikvk t 2 x 2 y 2 z 2 or else t 2 x 2 y 2 z 2 depending on your sign convention . Because c is constant , as you know . That is really not the reason . Just because c is a constant does not necessarily mean the magnitude of the fourvelocity vector needs to be constant as well . The actual reason is that vidxids . Thus v 2 viikvkik dxids dxkds ds 2 ds 21 where c 1 and ds 2 ik dxi dxkIf you and I both use the same coordinate system , which is required to maintain consistency , This is wrong . The Lorentz Transformations are coordinate transformations between frames of reference . You are missing a key feature of relativity if you don ' t understand that we are switching between frames of reference . Next , it does disprove your argument , because you ' re saying from what I can tell If we both observe each other ' s clocks going slower , then neither clock is going slower than the otherNo , I am stating that both observers see the others clock ticking slower . Again key feature of relativity . I have not once said that the other clock does NOT move slower relative to me . Yes you have . That is the whole reason we are having this tedious conversation . You saidThis is why when travelling very fast outside events seem to pass quicker . Which is equivalent to stating that clocks moving at high speeds relative to you are ticking faster . I am saying that in all cases , the clock that is at rest or moving slower relative to the other clock when viewed from the outside will always experience more time as having passed . This statement is correct . But it is not what you stated in your initial comment . As proven by the quote above Special relativity and general relativity can exist at the same timeYes , they can . However , you are having troubles understanding special relativity by itself , so we should really try to avoid making things more complicated than they need to be .