Thank you for the best comment I have ever read relating to this topic . Agreed wholeheartedly . <| sep |> You can ' t blame him for shitty implementation of a good idea . Stalin wasn ' t exactly a fair leader . <| sep |> Break SJW in two , you now have two SJWSJW wins every time <| sep |> How do you get to this screen in multiplayer <| sep |> It was barbar 84 who mentioned Romania , I was talking about Georgian coaches and players about Tbilisi Caucasians not Romanians . <| sep |> Fortunately there ' s the internet . We can make fun of them all day long here . It should probably move out into the real world at some point , though . . . <| sep |> Is this a connection between the two major SpaceX anomolies ? Based on what EM has said I must conclude that they are chilling the high pressure helium tanks on at least the second stage of the Falcon 9 rocket , and perhaps on the first stage . If the chilling brings the helium tank temperature to the point of liquefaction as EM said of helium then it is more than cold enough to cause an Oxygen Ice buildup on the outside of the helium tank . Water ice when it freezes in the crack in a rock is known to cause enough pressure to move millions of pounds of rock , not very far , but to make it move . If the ice buildup on the exterior of the helium tank is of sufficient thickness it might be enough to fill the gap between the exterior of the helium tank and the interior of the oxygen tank . Thus pressure would build between the two . It might be enough to exceed the hold down capacity of structures designed to hold the tank in place . The struts which were blamed for the last failure meet that definition . I wonder if the softer bang heard several seconds before the explosion wasn ' t the sound of stress building up as the ice build up pushed the helium tank away from the wall of the oxygen tank . This rather simple description fits the bill as an enabling cause for both SpaceX failures in my mind . Any thoughts ?