what does that mean ? who wins <| sep |> Makes me annoyed just reading this . <| sep |> Well it seems you know what you want , and just went and answered all your own questions , so I ' m not sure why we ' re here P <| sep |> I ' ve gotten multiple in the 700 s . <| sep |> Don ' t fall into the trap most players do when looking at PD talentskill level you have an entire team to think about . not just PD ! PD needs 910 because it ' s the skill level needed to take 1200 ms heroes to 800 ms in one proc . That ' s why it ' s super important . 1200 ms heroes are also by far the most common attack speed . Also , only Zerk 4 or Zerk 8 matters for PD . At Zerk 4 , he goes from 1000 ms to 800 ms . At zerk 8 , he goes from 800 to 600 ms . Zerk 67 have no effect and you shouldn ' t upgrade these until you have all the fame to take him to 88 and 1010 and decide you don ' t have anywhere better to spend it