i would have went after the car , good maneuvering by the truck and cammer <| sep |> Yup . Someone nominated Doom , so contest over . <| sep |> To be fair , he missed a LOT of crucial shots this game . Not watched to see if the same is applicable in other recent games though . <| sep |> I don ' t disagree with your point , I ' m simply saying that making the distinction between SSL and TLS is rather unnecessary . If you feel the distinction is important , then you also need to specify which TLS version you ' re referring to . So in conversation TLS just means TLS in general and assumptions have to be made . SSL is more or less TLS in the same context . However , saying TLS 1 . 3 is very different and in that case , TLS 1 . 3 and SSL are not the same thing . But in that context , SSL is meaningless as you say , SSLv 3 would be the correct terminology .