HFCS isn ' t inherently worse than cane sugar , either . It ' s just cheaper so it gets used in more things that aren ' t traditionally sweet . The other day I had a BLT that was disgustingly sweet there was hidden sugar almost surely HFCS in the bread , the bacon and the italian dressing , and it all added up . <| sep |> Nothing as long as we go back to the primary <| sep |> Later on I took a chance , Tried to fart , but shit my pants . <| sep |> You ' ll get gassed for stealing . <| sep |> People assume time is a strict progression . etc <| sep |> So people in or not hell suffer for no time in no place ? Exactly . That ' s a breeeze . No , it ' s not , because they are still diastemic creatures meant to experience things like hope , anticipation , love none of which are present in that existence . Yeah , and consider that they have no expertise in other kinds of existence . They had at the time they wrote no experience in other kinds of existence . I would say they were the consummate experts on that existence . They were just speculating too . No , they were applying their reason to questions they considered important and worthy of their utmost intellectual efforts . While I personally believe as does the Church they were guided in those efforts by the Holy Spirit , it isn ' t necessary to share that belief in order to follow their thinking . I love how you Catholics just think because a guy hudreds or thousands of years sorry , I used that word again said it , it must be true ! Years is entirely appropriate in this context perhaps you misunderstood my original objection . I hold things to be true despite their antiquity when I understand and accept the reasons they ' re true . I don ' think that ' s terribly odd . So where did you get this knowledge ? Did a church father tell you ? Fides et ratio .