Wow ! That ' s a picture of white grandma ' s <| sep |> In terms of more underground acts , I think we ' ve reached a point to where we are jusg about as abrasive as we can get . Each genre has its noise band . Rock has Lightning Bolt , Pop has earlier Animal Collective , Rap and Industrial have Death Grips , hell ShoeGaze made some waves on forums just a couple years ago . So overall , there are tons of abrasive acts . But noise will likely never reach mainstream , and even if it does , it will take time . <| sep |> Will you ever recover ? <| sep |> Hey , I ' m in the same boat as well . If anyone finds out a groupshoot me a pm . Heck , if we just find a patient DM we ' re practically good to go . <| sep |> Tbh I ' m more anxious against a P 3 trapper than any other killer . P 3 trappers always seem to play the most trihard out of the bunch . Completely shutting down hook saves whenever they can . I even just went against a P 3 trapper with unrelenting 3 STBFL 3 . It was UGLY