Sounds engaging ! Thanks a lot . It was rated as Mixed by the steam users so I was having thoughts about this Xpack . Is there any other pack you would recommend ? <| sep |> In the US , driving is a major part of national identity . <| sep |> snow in the city is a hassle , winter in the woods is magical ! the more snow the better ! we ' re off grid and on the edge of the BWCA , so it is quiet and peaceful . it is easier to move things in the snow than it is in the summer , and the skiing and snowshoeing is awesome ! <| sep |> Do you take medicine ? <| sep |># WE NEED THE MODS TO BUILD A FIREWALL , AND THE CROOKED ADMINS ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT <| sep |> It seems to me like a key strength of Katarina is her early aggression at L 2 and 3 , however , her early AP ratios are actually very bad Q is 0 . 3 , Passive is 0 . 55 and E is 0 . 25 . These are lower than on most tanks , so clearly she relies heavily on base damage , as well as AD . Later on her passive AP ratio increases and the massive ult ratio come into picture , but early on AP does very little . The conclusion I draw from this is that Mpen is likely to give slightly better returns at least early on . I haven ' t done any math for mid or late game scenarios , though . Another thing worth noting is that quints are relatively more efficient for AP than Mpen . The incoming changes for the starting AP ratio for Kat ' s passive might nudge them barely above Mpen quints in terms of early damage as far as full rotation burst goes .