In some areas it has gotten worse , in most areas it has gotten much better , and yet other areas it is just as shitty as it always has been . I live in the Walnut Grove area . Hwy 1 used to back way the hell up from the old Port Mann to at least 232 St . Now , congestion only begins typically around Ikea where the Hwy 7 interchanges with Hwy 1 . The new bridge has cut 3540 min off my commute . <| sep |> I don ' t really intend to address all of your points , but I would like to introduce a couple ideas I don ' t see represented or accounted for in your arguments . Another is the fake promises about ' special extras ' if you pay more . The next point concerns the fact that its nasty and unspecial to have a girl jockeying you whom you have just seen the same done to 5 other guys . The next point is that paying for this entertainment if you are single is likely to remind you that you did not win this person over through force of personality , that you did not pick any one up . not only are they unlikely to be attracted to you , but you have achieved nothing by paying for it . 1 Some guys like the tease . Even taking into account these ideas , that they ' re just making money and have been doing it to others or whatever , they enjoy the tease . They still like the attention and the tease and perhaps even the hope . Hope in the idea that maybe , just maybe , there is something more to be had from her if she ' s charmed in the right way andor the proper price is paid . Men do the same with women that are waitresses and cashiers . They question is she into me , or is she just being nicegiving good customer service ? And they hope on the former , despite the latter being their job . Strippers are no different . The other idea applies to basically all of your points . 2 Is it better than nothing ? Many guys would prefer to have a woman ' s body in the flesh over not having one , even if it smells like sweaty cigarettes between her balloon tits . You say it ' s not worth it , but it only has to be better than the alternative . If a guy isn ' t confident in his ability to woo a woman the traditional way , maybe it ' s worth it for them .