i just dont feel ittheres your explanation . perhaps whites just dont work for you , like reds dont work for me . you could probably give me your favorite , all time best red and have me take it , and youd be shocked when i said it was garbage . same thing if i were to give you a white . everybodies bodies are different . what effects me great , wont always effect you great nor everyone elseI sometimes feel White vein Is nothing more than weak batches passed as a different strainThis isnt a good thing to say man . it could prevent someone new to kratom avoid a white vein , and what if whites are the only thing that would work for them ? juat trust me when i say its your individual body chemistry . Stick with greens and reds , theyre an obvious better suit for you .