Yes , its something people do . It is in the rules they can check distance . That is where the rules end . Personally I find it a little cheap . but I have never called someone out on it as they are technically allowed to do it and take as much time as they want to do it . <| sep |> Thank you , what would it be the dream fujitora team ? <| sep |> Nice to see that Let ' s Eat Grandma album on there . I really like that thing . <| sep |> THIS DOESN ' T LOOK LIKE ANYTHING TO ME <| sep |> GOTY edition comes with a vanilla version and a code for the season pass . <| sep |> A well put together Kicker system can go head to head with nearly any other brand . El oh fucking el You should look up sq and spl competitions . You ' ll not find much , if any , kicker setups . If kicker is so on par with other brands , why don ' t people get kicker subs to hit 150160 db ? ?? The issue is many inexperienced people choose Kicker as their first brand from name recognition alone and hardly ever set things up properly , and then go brag about it because they dont know any better . I ' d say that ' s the main reason they get labeled as inferior . Well put together Kickers are rare , but they do exist . No , I label them as inferior because they are overpriced and underperformed . Not because of user error . People buy kicker because it ' s an established brand . Same with the other best buy and frys junk . If I had to knock them on anything , I ' d say they are overpriced for the specsHey you got one thing correct . but you have to remember that price includes more than just specs . Durability is a factor in that price and Kicker amps and subs will take one hell of a beating . The amps are decent , but still overpriced compared to other stuff you can get . And the amps aren ' t even 1 ohm stable . not even close to . 5 As for enclosures , I ' ve never bothered to even look into one , I ' ll take your word that those are crap , as with most brand name enclosures . The frys dual 12 box just has a huge hole in the side with a 5 diameter tube about 8 deep . It sounds like ass . Right out of the box , sure they seem not as good for the price compared to other brands but I would bet that those other brands might not last as long or put up with as much abuse . OK you need to stop acting like you know what you are taking about . Go look up sundown kid . All I ' m saying is that they can hold they ' re own . Definitely not the best by any means but definitely not the garbage that they get labeled as . I agree with this . And for this reason , I would not suggest kicker anything . unless it was a good deal and fit the application . Certainly nothing from kicker is usable to me . And I just think it shouldn ' t be a brand that anyone should look into . Sundown nuthug ftw .