Exodus ? You mean the group that the founders left and shut down because they admitted it was torture and absolutely full of shit ? That exodus ? Or is there another one out there that actually has scientific data to back it up . It ' s not therapy any more than young earth creationism is valid scientific theory . Without science to back it up , it ' s at best snake oil . In this case it ' s snake oil that results in a suicide rate measured in the 2040 % range . so , no , he ' s still wrong . It ' s not therapy . He ' s not just homophobic . he ' s a homophobic piece of shit who helped cause one of the biggest HIV spikes in the US in recent history . He ' s a homophobic piece of shit that wanted to make it a criminal offense to apply for a marriage license as a same sex couple . He ' s a homophobic , bigoted piece of shit for supporting conversion therapy . Don ' t dare suggest I know nothing about this . you ' d be wrong .