Spot on , fair play to you . It takes work and I think people overlook that . You can ' t keep trying to stop and expect it to suddnly work if you don ' t make changes . <| sep |> I ' m glad the poster went live . <| sep |> Have you never seen a dong ? Clearly that was balls . <| sep |> Cool , did Frontier change something since I played last ? I didn ' t realize you could only PvP in CG related areas now . Can anyone else confirm , because that sounds like quite the change . The chances of meeting another player anywhere outside publicly advertised congregation areas is mathematically improbable . The chances of that player being aggressive are practically nil . Let ' s not entertain the old fallacy that Open guarantees getting blown up five minutes after you log in , shall we ? Similar to how Eve does it . Funny , last time I checked a suicide gank squad blowing up a freighter carrying 100 billion in PLEX do not get to pay off nothing except the rebuy cost of their own ships . EvE protects the players in high security using instant police action . This wouldn ' t work in ED because ED bubble is a heterogenous mix of security systems , not like the onion layer style of EvE , with highsec gradually giving way to low sec and then nullsec . What would work in ED is a robust bounty system . Players killing other players without reason PP , being in a warzone or anarchy system etc . should get high bounties on them and would have to pay off that bounty via debt system basically you would still have to pay your 28 million insurance , but they would get 28 million added as a bounty on their heads if they die , they get to set aside 15 % of their earnings to pay off that debt until it is settled . That would nullify any bounty trading between friends . As I mentioned before , I also think that such players would have to be restricted to Anarchy systems for docking and services good luck trading and bounty hunting , restricted to Open play if you wanna dance , dance , don ' t grind in solitude and possibly a system where player bounty hunters can track them down . I think that ' s punishment enough .