I ' ll take one kilo of Colombian banana bread , please . <| sep |> Do people really forget this ? <| sep |> There was nothing to celebrate , we got the 1 st place in the group locked <| sep |> Exactly what reason is there to be optimistic about Firefox ' s future They have managed to take a mostlyobsolete browser and modernize it , and are now poised to turn it into a nextgen browser with efforts like their Quantum project . Mozilla itself is not dying or losing money , but is growing . when Firefox has done nothing but bleed users and devs over the last 5 years ? They ' ve done far more than nothingfirefox 4 , firefox 53 . They ' ve revamped the browser . I don ' t see a lack of devs or dev talent in their ranks either , nor is that base shrinking . Besides , how do you propose they didn ' t lose users after Google made their own browser , Apple ' s browser became a major player and the only option on iOS , etc ? Magic ? when Mozilla axed away so many components of Firefox and introduced nothing tangible in place ? Um , try to name a few of these things ? Hello and Pocket ? Nobody seems to care about them . Tab Groups and other things had better addons available for those features anyway . Even Australis has since become tangible , and themes and CTR exist just fine and don ' t seem to be going away despite the changeover to WebExtensions and deprecation of existing ways to do those things . Also explain why the web standards they ' ve added support for don ' t count as tangible , and why features like Reader Mode , Hello , Pocket , etc don ' t count , let alone e 10 s and other big performance improvements ? when Mozilla tries to branch out to whatever seems popular at the time and absolutely gets crushed rather than dedicating themselves to Firefox ? Like what ? FirefoxOS ? What was the alternative ? Google and Apple have a duopoly there , and Firefox isn ' t even allowed to run on iOS . Should they have just meekly withered away instead of trying to fight back first ? What else did they do that meets your criteria , either ? when Firefox as a browser more and more lost any selling point it used to have ? . such as ? Unmaintained addons that break when you try to modernize the browser ? Halfbroken features that can be replaced with addons that aren ' t going away anytime soon ? A new addon system that still promises to do more than the competition ' s ? An engine that ' s still unique and competitive with even Google ' s best efforts ? when Firefox is being gutted not by Google or Microsoft ' s efforts as one would expect but by the very company that ' s behind it ? And how is Mozilla gutting it , exactly ? Please , try to explain this line of reasoning to me . Compare Firefox 4 to today ' s Firefox , and detail what we ' ve lost , and why it should have been in Firefox instead of addons ? Explain why all the things we ' ve gained don ' t count for anything , and only contribute to Firefox being gutted ? The point is , you ' re blinding yourself to everything except the most pessimistic and negative possible viewpoints . And for what ? Firefox still does what it did , even if some things aren ' t handled the same way anymore . Users left , but it ' s clearly not just because Firefox is inferior or Mozilla is making less of an effort . You ' re honestly just obsessing over a small part of the picture .