. 5 PPR Thielen Detroit Shepard Browns J Matthews Green BayAlso should I start any of these guys over Jarvis ? <| sep |> To see what some people are saying on twitter saddens me . So what he didn ' t win an EPL title . He ' s still a great player . We should all respect that . <| sep |> Why are you so mean ? <| sep |> Any product can break . This past summer we had a lot of lightening strikes and I had 3 houses within 3 miles of each other get damaged power modules on a system that for the oldest house hadn ' t had any issues for 17 years . If your life depends on it , I ' d say no . Also , if you already have a solution that works , stick to it . There is no reason at all to add an irrigation system to the home automation system other than to show off . If you need to service it , you can do it yourself or get the landscape guy to do it versus call the electrician or AV guy to do it which will be more expensive . Having said all that , for as long as I ' ve been doing lighting automation , I have used Vantage older Qlink and Infusion for new construction jobs where I can run low voltage wires to keypads and Lutron ' s wireless products ra , ra 2 , homeworks , homeworks qs , etc . . I have to be able to trust the companies I entrust my customer ' s homes to and neither of these companies have let me down when things have gone wrong . Of course , when things are right , they are the best systems IMHO .