Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer . <| sep |> hehe , check his killboard he even killed some guys with that abomination D tho it was a HML Legion back in 2015 o 7 <| sep |> They didn ' t change the formula to make speed matter more , speed is still not implemented and it barely makes a difference on the CP calculation . It ' s still a rather low impact , but it definitely has more impact now than it had before . I just tested it with the new formulas , since they are finally knownI created a few hypothetical Pokemon to see how which value changes the CP to look how much Specialists got buffed and how much Fast Pokemon got buffed and slow nerfed . Obviously , the buff to specialists was far , far bigger than the buff to fast Pokemon , but look for yourselfSubject A has 100 Attack , 100 Special Attack and 100 Speed . In Pokemon Go , it would have had 220 ATK with the old formula and 210 ATK with the new one . If we reduce 50 Speed 100 Atk , 100 Sp . Atk , 50 Speed this Pokemon would still get 214 ATK in the old formula 2 . 8 %, while it would only get 190 ATK in the new formula 9 . 5 %. So speed weights over three times as much as before . If we add 50 Speed 100 Atk , 100 Sp . Atk , 150 Speed this Pokemon would only get 224 ATK in the old formula 1 . 8 %, while it would get 230 ATK in the new formula 9 . 5 %. So speed weights over four times as much as before . Obviously , the change for Specialists is bigger . If we shift 50 points from ATK to Sp . ATK or vice versa so we get a 15050100 or 50150100 Pokemon , it would have only gotten 193 ATK in the old formula 14 %, while it would get 289 ATK in the new formula 37 . 6 %. So speed definitely has a much higher impact now . But the difference in how specialists get calculated now is way bigger . Rhydon for example loses a few CP due to his low speed , but gains 4 or 5 times these CP due to him being a strong specialist in both ATK 13045 and DEF 12045 . Lets take a look at Rhydon and how his ATK and DEF values are calculatedIn the old system , his ATK would have been 166 and his DEF would have been 160 . The speed value of 40 didn ' t change that much even if he had 100 Speed , he still would have gotten only 173 ATK and 167 DEF . The 60 additional points of speed would have only changed his base stats from 326 to 340 4 . 3 % In the new system , his ATK is 220 and his DEF is 206 . If he had more Speed , lets say 100 again , he would even get to 251 ATK and 231 DEF . This means the 60 additional points of speed would raise his combined stats from 426 to 482 13 . 15 % This example shows that Rhydons won 100 Points of combined ATKDEF with the new formula . He won even more than that because he is a specialist in both ATK and DEF , but lost a few ones because of his low speed . TLDRSpeed is about 34 times as relevant now when it comes to the calculation of ATK and DEF values and thus the CP ! , so it definitely is a lot more relevant . But the really big changer was that the new formula benefits specialists over generalists , while the old formula benefited generalists .