Whatever you say Keith <| sep |> I just replayed it , just in case the wiki missed something . Deep Water is referred to as a leader , not a claw and a voice is fully missing still . I distinctly recall seeing a dialogue that calls him the Claw and besides that , the Claw is the leader of the physical ongoings of the Sanctuary militant and government . The Voice ' s leadership is purely spiritual . And as I said , the Voice is very often kept in near solitude , with only attendants . We do not see the Voice of Blue Ice Shining for example . Doesn ' t mean there isn ' t one . And the Voice of Deep and Troubled Waters is only seen when she goes into a rage , which happens when the Claw is near death at all other times , she is hidden . About the Svanir thing In the core game , the difference between Icebrood and Svanir is clearly defined , with the latter being not corrupted at all and becoming icebrood the second they are corrupted which literally happens in a single second . It ' s also very clearly defined that the Sons of Svanir eventually become icebrood after a period of time . Sons of Svanir are not corrupted , but they become such . Becoming an icebrood doesn ' t happen in a single second either . It ' s a progressional thing . The only time becoming an icebrood happens quickly is when a shaman performs a ritual to pull Jormag ' s corruptive dragon magic to turn someone into an icebrood full out , rather than taking it in small portions . This is best shown by the Sons of Svanir having icecovered skins , or with Rhojan the Penitent who is a redemptive Son of Svanir , but still hears Jormag ' s call . He ' s only barely corrupted , which is a rare but actual thing we also see barely corrupted cases with Zhaitan ' s corruption throughout Bloodtide Coast and Sparkfly Fen , which often takes on the form of mysterious diseases . The Svanir seen in the new map are very clearly no longer Sons of Svanir and are not called such , but are icebrood , and by all indication relatively recent icebrood .