Hard pass . Let ' s leave Thanksgiving to mad shoppers and NFL fans two things that I am not . Adding MLS to the mix is just going to see lackluster results , IMO . <| sep |> I know lul . <| sep |> damn near impossible to K . O <| sep |> I dunno , in the case of morbidly obese people , I really don ' t understand how you can physically reach a point where your body requires 5 , 000 10 , 000 calories per day to maintain itself . I completely disagree when you say you are going against everything your body was set up for . The human body was not set up to be 400 pounds and eat 8 , 000 calories per day , no matter what people tell themselves . There ' s a reason there ' s so many health complications associated with obesity . It seems you ' ve fundamentally missunderstood what was being said here . The human brain and body are very maliable , especially as a child . If a child develops poor eating habits and continues these habits for years until adulthood , their brain and body will adapt to make these habits their normal . As such they cannot expect to drastically change their eating habits such as going from 5 k to 2 k calories a day without severe consequences . Fatigue , lethargy , loss of libido , depression , overall feeling like shit . It takes a lot of dedicated effort and commitment to rewire your brain and make healthy habits your body ' s new normal . People like to think that losing weight is 50 % dieting , 50 % working out . It ' s more like 90 % dieting , 10 % working out . What it comes down to is calories in vs . calories out . Your argument is a nonsequitur the conclusion doesn ' t follow from the premise at all . Dieting decreases calories in , exercise increases calories out . The more you exercise the less you will need to diet and vice versa . I ' m not sure where you ' re pulling this 9010 split in favor of dieting from , but its definitely bs .