Pshhh , have you seen how awesome Battlefield I is ? I wish I could run off of a giant zeppelin as it exploded behind me . <| sep |> I don ' t think people who believe in Judism is an accurate assesment of blame . <| sep |> You can usually use Shaymin in the first turn with the help of Ultra Ball and HoopaEX . In Octillery ' s case , you have to wait at least your 2 nd turn so you can evolve remoraid . I mean , you can use Wally but lul . Ok , I ' ll make my personal pros and cons listShaymin pros Can use first turn Draw until you have 6 cards compared to Octillery ' s 5 Goes well with HoopaEX along with other EXs and Ultra Ball discard cards from your hand so you can draw more with Shaymin Has 110 HP compared to Octillery ' s 90 HP meh Only takes 1 space in your deck while Octillery needs a minimum of 2 spaces 11 lineup which isn ' t even idealShaymin cons He is an EX so you will lose 2 prizes if he gets knocked out Pretty much useless on the field , unless you ' re playing Rayquaza , Rainbow Road , Gardevoir , I guess Expensive ! Octillery pros You can use his ability every turn Can use Dive Ball if you want or need Only gives up 1 prize if it gets knocked out since it is not an EXOctillery cons Draws until you have 5 cards compared to Shaymin ' s 6 Takes at least 2 turns to set up unless you use Wally which is very questionable Takes up more space in your deck since you will probably want to run 22 Has 20 less HP than Shaymin