Got it , will do . <| sep |> I ' m not saying they ' ve performed equally this year but the idea it ' s not even a discussion is too much . <| sep |> And you guys still managed to lose to us the other 2 times we met . <| sep |> Neith , and arguably Ullr , are the only two that are even close to as good as many mages are . You are talking about the very late game . Obviously hunters do the most damage late game . What you fail to grasp , is that there are other parts of the game , and it doesn ' t matter if you have 3 hunters , if you are 15 k down 30 minutes . You can ' t just ignore the damage a god does because it is tied to an ability . Apollo does get free protections and a mez , because he has them . If you think a Hunter can hold down solo lane against a god like Ravana , Vamana , or Erlang , without getting heavily outpushed , ganked , and outrotated , you haven ' t played smite . I have no clue what standard Qins build you are talking about , but a typical hunter build will cost ~ 14 , 000 . Considerably more than any other typical build . If you run a hunter in any lane aside from duo , or NeithUllr mid , you are going to get your shit pushed in during the laning phase , and you are going to get camped by the enemy jungler .