Down for me too . I can ' t get past billing either . <| sep |> i have not changed anything first off it was an a that you claimed was added then a full stop you cant even lie straight . You admitted you were wrong in your posts which are screen shot as well idiot . You gave me the wrong link . ucookiecutterhipster EDIT old petition , not current . My bad . <| sep |> I have tried so many times to engage on rthedonald and other places . I can assure you , this definitely is them causing the problem . We ' re the enemy to them . It ' s become a sports game for them , and that ' s what ' s wrong . Is there some people on the left that do this ? Yeah . And they should stop it immediately . Back up your arguments and try to stick to facts . Don ' t listen when they call you ridiculous names or anything . But even then , the usual retort is . a meme . That ' s it . Memes . You can ' t have a discussion with memes . And if it ' s not memes , they throw wild conspiracy accusations , or say oh you ' re bitten about your poor Hillary etc . The problem with the way we are now is the right . I think this reached a critical point after 2008 , when Congress was unwilling to budge on anything whatsoever , and they were out to make Obama a one term president by any means possible . I mean they shut down the federal government . As someone who was paid through the government , it was infuriating . That , along with this far right radio fake news , has got to stop before we can be normal again . People are so wildly misinformed that it ' s hard to stay calm . The obvious answer is we all need to get along , but I honestly think that ' s a gross simplification at this point . You can say the same in the 1860 s , but it wasn ' t that simple . I ' m not saying we ' re heading for civil war II or anything . But this division and misinformation is going to end up really setting us back . When they go low , you go high was Obama ' s motto for a reason , and one Hillary adopted . I don ' t think the left is to blame to the same extent at all .