read your topic <| sep |> Why did the other pin him ? Dude is in serious need of medical attention <| sep |> It may not be about convincing them . Sometimes it may be about exposing them to the next reader . It ' s not about your sources . Friend or foe it ' s a waste of time to google for other people . It ' s really not your sources be real careful that your not passing off consensus as fact . It ' s about exposing the flaws and holes and frauds in their sources . Look up the quotes they are pulling and show the original source . For example Darwin can argue so eloquently for himself . The mountains of evidence was paleontologists who had back rooms stacked with metric fucktons of evidence for evolution . What was it up against ? Some oddities , some plinkid 7951 and roadside attractions . Samuel Clements came to his atheism after reading the bible and working out how some of the things in it would have happened , comparing it against the small amount of astronomy they knew in his time . Lastly the NYT is just a terrible terrible source . It ' s a secondary source . They may be proud of their fact checking , citations , and reputation but historically so many of their news articles have been more opinion than they think . Terrible opinions that lead to national disasters before even before Judith Miller .