How many crates for scorer chaks ? I don ' t have many but I can throw in some other stuff too <| sep |> Why isn ' t moveon flooding my email inbox with invitations to demonstrate against the Obama regime ? The left has really fallen off since the Bush years . <| sep |> Again , and I ' ll make it plain for you capitalism does not exist on this planet right now , just as communism has not existed . Thus is the fundamental point you aren ' t getting . So your appeals to governments and the modern world , but capitalism isn ' t found today . We seem to have different definitions of capitalism , yours is I gueass what you think capitalism should be ? Mine however is the dictionary definition everybody else uses , and that capitalism most definitely exists . Like just check , this is what most people mean by itCapitalism is an economic system based on private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit . Characteristics central to capitalism include private property , capital accumulation , wage labor , voluntary exchange , a price system , and competitive markets . However , your system doesn ' t have less scarcity . For it to work at all as you describe , postscarcity is a prerequisite . No , just post scarcity in the means of supporting human life , which we ' ve had this whole time , and had easily since agriculture . The only reason we don ' t lead far more relaxed , creative lives is overlords demanding surplus . That ' s still present in capitalism , just like it was in feudalism . As to postscarcity in things more complicated than fucking plants and houses , it ' s anyone ' s guess which is better , but I put more faith in the one assembled of cooperating communities with that as their explicit goal than the one of separate little chiefdoms constantly at odds , their only goal profit . That ' s not an effect of communism , it ' s a requirement before communism can even happen . You ' re putting the cart before the horse and you still don ' t understand what capitalism is . Nah , you just need to properly collectivize a few key industries and market forces will build communism within years . Again , all you need is post scarcity for housing , food and water , which we ' ve clearly got . Distribute that freely and you destroy wage labor and rip the coercion out of capitalism . Whether capitalism would survive is none of my concernit probably wouldn ' t , but communism would be built . I really think you ' re the one who doesn ' t understand capitalism here , socialism neither . You seem to think they ' re AnarchoCapitalism and Marxism , respectively .