Well there are a lot of similarities . <| sep |> Remember kids , as long as you say you will be downvoted beforehand they will just prove you were right all along ! <| sep |> His speed can be shut down by hard CC . Just like any other carry , hard CC destroys Ryze . Leona , Blitzcrank , Nautilus , they can make Ryze irrelevant if their teams are there to back up the CC . Also a fed assassin like Rengar camping him helps . As for shutting him down early , I ' d say long range mage in lane to deny him CS . His laning is strong , but it ' s very short range , so if you have something like Anivia , Brand , or Syndra , then he won ' t be able to win any trades . <| sep |> I wish I had a D <| sep |> ah ok thanks . not sure why i got downvoted had genuinely not heard that phrase before