Not a feeling I ' m used to after the past few years <| sep |> Lol , more like TFW on HRT for 6 months and . nothing changes <| sep |> Nothing says I ' m a great date like the look of dead eyes and a shirt that you ' ve worn all week . Throw in a chronic hangover and that increases relatability by 30 %.<| sep |> God bless you for making me laugh so hard <| sep |> Been to as in set foot in or been to as in patient of , which one ? <| sep |> interested in a ship please contact me I require more information thanks <| sep |> and chromatic rhythm isn ' t a thingNo shit . Maybe I should have used an extra comma ? classical composers , blues musicians , and most of the nonwestern world of music had collectively already explored pretty much every interval ever already . Sure but many intervals were not even remotely common and were rarely if ever applied in the context of improvisation . Just because something had been played before as a novelty doesn ' t detract from the endless elaboration and creative application of those intervals by Jazz artists . you realize that genres other than jazz were just as quick to adopt the drumkit as well , right ? jazz did not singlehandedly define the drumkit and how it is used . Jazz did define the way the drumkit can be used . Drumkit use in all other genres is literally a subset of ideas originally explored by Jazz artists . Find me an example that isn ' t and I ' ll happily tell you why you ' re wrong . Even the most intricate math rock or death metal can be traced directly back to jazz . Plenty of musical innovation happens outside of the jazz idiom but what you don ' t seem to understand is how influential jazz was and is to almost every imaginable genre of contemporary popular music , electronica included . one of the defining traits of jazz is that the melodies often use chromatic notes that are nonharmonic . in fact it ' s probably the most defining feature of the entire genre , it ' s the sound 99 % of people recognize as jazz . I ' m sorry but this is complete idiocy . I ' m pretty sure you have no idea what the word harmony means and from that I ' m pretty sure you ' re clueless about music theory in general . Lots of notes are nondiatonic or dissonant but to say something like chromatic notes that are nonharmonic is just absurd and reeks of ignorance . The defining feature of Jazz is improvisation . Just because you don ' t understand the harmonic context or framework of that improvisation doesn ' t mean a logic doesn ' t exist . there were a ton of other genres around the time that modern music is derived from , especially blues music which also was primarily concerned with expression and improvisation . Blues and Jazz are fundamentally linked . That you don ' t understand this just shows how clueless you are about American music history and again music theory overall . Blues is just improvisation over a IIVV progression . Jazz developed that concept to include every chord progression . I never said Jazz artists invented every harmonic and rhythmic concept used in the jazz idiom . What Jazz did do is elaborate those concepts and incorporate them into a framework for spontaneous expression across the entire spectrum of music theory . I would argue that Funk is infinitely more influential to electronic dance music specificallyGood lord . Guess where Funk came from ? Modal jazz . You are clueless about 20 th century music history . Read a book . This might be the most ignorant thing you ' ve said yet . I ' d love to watch you perform mental gymnastics to try and explain how pitchbent snare rolls owe their existence to jazz , lmao . LMAO this is an easy one . Where do you think the snare roll came from ? Military drummers . Who do you think expanded on the snare roll and applied it to modern music ? I ' ll let you figure this one out on your own . most of their energy is spent on the production and sound designYea and the exploitation of software for sound design is not really musicianship . The end result is by definition music but like you said , the set of skills and knowledge required for electronic music production is completely different than what ' s required for someone to become a musician . EDM is cool and all but musically speaking all it really is is the application of derivative ideas to a new instrument software . Just because that instrument has unprecedented sonic flexibility doesn ' t mean the genre ' s innovation , of which there is a ton don ' t get me wrong , is inherently musical . You seriously need to read about 20 th century music and where all your favorite genres originated . You might be surprised what you learn . One thing that ' s extremely important to understand is that almost all contemporary popular music owes its existence to African Americans . Rock , Pop , Country , Metal , EDM , etc . etc . Do some research next time before trying to argue the relative influence of different musical genres .