The load order description says npc ' s do not use ammo . but in the patch description where ammo level lists are described it says they do use ammo at the moment . I assume they arent using ammo and that is maybe a typo . so i guess your ig weapons compatibility patch adds those weapons to the npc level lists and patches the new crossbow ammo . so if we use doom based weapons mod we dont use the ig patch , so they are simply added to container level lists and not npcs . i guess doom based adds no new ammo ? Also the ig weapon patch and your compability patch are used and placed at bottom of the load order after your survivalhardcore patch ? Ughh . sorry just trying to fully wrap my head around this . <| sep |> yup . i have 2 SSD ' s and 12 GB ram in my t 420 . Never used the msata slot before . Not sure if I have much of a reason to