I actually let them explode on the outer shell of my freshly caught Minior when I was up there . Was looking for Ditto , instead I found landmines . <| sep |> This commentary is mint . <| sep |> Thanks , although I must question why this phone call Jodi speaks of never transpired throughout the entirety of the case , if true to the claims . This call was apparently from 114 , the same day Steven spoke to the media and to officers for the first time . They never raised the question and he never said anything about it in his 115 or 116 police interviews , nor his 114 through 117 media interviews . Dedering ' s own interview with Jodi from 116 also differs from that described in his 115 report , which was based on major hearsay of Lenk via another Manitowoc officer via Jodi via Steven . When Dedering asked Jodi about this , she just said that Avery stated Bobby saw her after he had , not that Bobby had actual contact with her . Might it be that Jodi simply misinterpreted Steven ' s brainstorming over the phone as such ? He did talk of going over to see Bobby after Teresa left , and knew that Bobby had been home when Teresa was there but that he was gone soon thereafter after Avery went back in the house and Teresa left . Perhaps Steven theorized that Bobby would had seen her leave after Steven went back in the house , since Bobby left about the same time . Hard to say what context that conversation really is without a recording of it .