I play a lot of pubs , the one displayed here looks absolutely awful and would make me through myself out of the ground floor window . I never had such a bad experience I am sorry you had to go through this <| sep |> Thanks for the detailed response ! I will go ahead and go to 4 chan and find these ! It ' s a small site right <| sep |> Sounds tough , but some advice . If you want your parents to accept who you are , you have to accept who they are . Now that doesn ' t mean that you have to agree with them . This is where many people stumble . Read what your wrote , At some point in the past , I wrote this with the goal of sharing it with my family and , well , opening their eyes to their bullshit as it wereWhen you approach people without any respect for their beliefs , then they are just going to shut you out . You need to realize that to your parents , Christianity is one of the foundation blocks of their life . Like i said , that doesn ' t mean you have to be a Christian but it does mean that you should approach this in a lot more tactful manner . Give up in trying to convince other people that ' your way is right '. This is as annoying as when random pastors trie to convince people to ' see the light ' so they don ' t go to hell . Sure your arguments are a 100 x better but the attitude is the same . An attitude of You obviously only believe what you do because of ignorance , let me open your eyes . Instead approach people with This is how I look at things , your welcome to have your on views on the matter as well . Just be respectful of mine . Due to the political ramifications of said beliefs , you could even try to push your own agenda . And yes , regardless of rather it ' s true or false , it ' s still an agenda . Just remember to be respectful and patient . The moment you start to disrespect and lose patience in another ' s world view is the moment you lose any chance of convincing them . So either just give up on trying to convince them , or do so in a manner that isn ' t so condescending .