I agree with you . I want less than 10 k . But how are they going to control population ? Everyone replying to me seems to be assuming I think having 20 k players is a good thing . I personally don ' t think it is a good thing , but I am pretty sure that ' s where this scene is going if they get it right . Private servers have always been pretty shit but these guys are literally providing something as good as WOW . <| sep |> Okay , fair enough . Good luck trading man . Sorry about that . <| sep |> Thanks for the tip , after being on hold for 20 minutes they found my order and it went through . Must be from the overload they had ! Just relieved lol <| sep |> I would generally unbutton the collar so it can wash a little better I often apply a stain remover for ring around the collar , too . If the shirt has mother of pearl buttons or something else delicate , you might want to leave the frontcollar buttoned and flip the shirt inside out . Otherwise they can shear from hitting the sides of the washer .