You can tell a Brit by the use of the word dreary . <| sep |> this is amazing <| sep |> I believe in ELO hell . Now that doesn ' t mean I think that it is impossible to climb out of it . Just harder . Yours and Ster ' s example is meaningless . Of course a Master and Diamond player can rank up from Bronze . I don ' t think anyone would argue with that . The part of Elo Hell that is real is the Golds trying to climb out of Silver . Lower SR players don ' t make as big of an impact on the game as a Diamond would in a low SR match . The Silver SR might think he ' s better then most and he might belong in Gold but he has to put a lot more faith in his teammates to do so . I don ' t believe in someone saying I ' m Diamond but I ' m stuck in Silver Elo Hell but it ' s totally feasible to be Gold trying their hardest not making much progress in Silver . With the right Gold teammates that Silver can shine . The system is based on a 10 game placement ? Then people really say More then likely you were placed where you were suppose to be . Yeah bullshit . Probably close but no where near absolute . I mean look at you you got placed low and screwed some teammates in their placements . What are the incentives for most Bronze and Silver to play Competitive ? Competitive Points more then likely . But you have to win to get Competitive points , so that means everyone is trying to win . That ' s true to an extent but most low SR players I bet don ' t really care if they lose SR , they aren ' t going to exhaust themselves trying to pull out a long fought victory . They treat it like a long quick play Shorter if you give up in the middle that gives you CP about 50 % of the time no matter what rank you are .