How big is your tin foil hat ? Mine looks like Captain jack sparrow ' s hat <| sep |> I thought that too , but how do you explain the drop when I got a new GPU then ? <| sep |> I ' ve done some longer ones , usually for a oneoff crazy oneliner . <| sep |> Oh I ' ll threaten you with good times all I want ! <| sep |> I ' ve honestly not really delved very deep into either , I saw Ionic being used at a confrence recently and it looked quite cool to use and quite powerful but haven ' t looked into phonegap enough to know if it ' s better . From what I know though Ionic is more along the lines of PWAprogressive web app which seems to be a space getting more and more attention these days . <| sep |> That ' s not a real sustainable business model though .