Not with an Artifact cage , although I have run stock , ' cades on 3 S , and Black Pigs in the stock cage . Anything I say should be taken with a grain of salt considering that I don ' t have any proper way to measure them , but ' Cades and Black Pigs get roughly glass ceiling velocities , ' Cades have laggy torque that takes about two seconds to fully spin up whereas Black Pigs take less than one , and stock motors are meh as always . <| sep |> If Rhee is the top voice in this movement , and the movement fails to gain traction with Devos at the helm , would this not be devastating to Rhee and her platform ? <| sep |> Good point . In any case we ' ll find out soon enough exactly how it scales compared to Beatrix ' s . <| sep |> You didn ' t try to helpHow can you even think that ? I went through the trouble of finding you what I thought was the answer , didn ' t I ? The reply I deleted because you misunderstood that too was basically a lazy way of saying No , I didn ' t think you checked . Now say you ' re sorry or I ' m tagging you Total buttmunch .