I don ' t think either one of us has the time to write big essay haha but here are some quick points I do take issue with his antiislamic stances , and the overall orientalist outlook on the world within actual classical liberalism in general . Sometime , I don ' t know if Dave knows what classical liberalism is . It ' s already a term and ideology that ' s existed in political science for decades . He ' s concept is very surface level , and very narrow to an American context . Which bleeds into his orientalist world view . I would agree that we need to be critical of religion . But we should also think of the systems that create religion or why religion manifests itself differently throughout the world , under the different historical constructs . I don ' t want to get too deep into this , but I believe that Islamicextremism is the current manifestation of resistance to American imperialism in the middle east , much in the same way that communism was the resistance to American and European imperialism during the Cold War . And let ' s not forget that Americans helped to support the crushing of secular resistance in the middle east for decades . I don ' t have the time to detail what orientalism is , but here are some brief excerpts from Edward Said . It ' s his theory and I ' ll let him speak for itself give it a read . AltRight is a far clearer term than SJW . I don ' t know what an SJW is unless its used in a derogatory way . An instant dismissal of someone ' s argument without trying to understand it . No one actually calls themselves an SJW unless it ' s to take the word back . AltRight on the other hand is a term selfselected by people on the far right . That ' s not a hard one to understand . If we really want honest discussion , we need to not dismiss people 100 % by throwing names at them . If Dave , or you or whoever , wants to have a conversation , let ' s not instantly throw nebulas terms that don ' t have any meaning other than to put down someone for believing something different . Now I ' m not saying that you are . I ' m not saying that that doesn ' t happen on the left , but we can ' t control what other people do . We can only control our own actions , and comments . The way that Dave presents and dismisses people on the regressive left does not endure people to want to speak with him to try and change their mind . I thought that ' s what we were supposed to do in debate . Not land cheap shots and insult or preach to the choir , but try to change minds . Dave has an opportunity to do that . Sort of like how civil you and I are being . I don ' t think we ' ve thrown terms at each other , even though I ' m sure that everyone who watches Dave would call me an SJW , regressive leftist or cuck if they actually knew my views on issues . He could try to take a sympathetic view of who he disagrees with , even if they don ' t take one with him . If he chooses not to , then it ' s clear that he has an agenda he ' s trying to promote . That includes Dave . He doesn ' t have to be dismissive of other people , and he doesn ' t have act as a safe space for people who hold , say racist views , just for the discussion . As an aside , I would recommend reading Imagined Communities by Benedict Anderson . It ' s a great book that deconstructs the ideas of nationalism . I ' ve been recommending it to a lot of people lately , and great discussions have come from it .