The SD 810 is an extremely stupid idea for HTC . It was already a bad chip last year and they are releasing another phone with it when it ' s almost 2017 ! <| sep |> Haha it ' s no problem . Thanks ! <| sep |> This attitude that we have to use kid gloves with them or they will destroy everything is the real reason we are in this situation . There is no way to reduce their influence on this site with out massive back lash . They work has a giant destructive hive mind like a hornets nest . If you have ever dealt with a large nest you don ' t go up to it and reason with it or try to contain it you spray it down as much as you can to instantly kill everything in it . Also to kill anything coming back to it . From reading those logs Spez is just to chicken shit to do anything about them even when mods across the board are getting sick of their games and manipulation of rules and systems with bots and other things . Spez keeps wanting to try and reason with the hive and hopes it will reign itself in but it won ' t . Unless someone with balls steps up and clears out this mess it will just keep growing . That festering mound of hate needs to be removed not reasoned or dealt with .