whatits not meant to be an insult ? dumb millennialI dont know why you are talking about millennials as if you arent the same age as everyone else here . millennial is a reference to millennium which means 1 k years 2000 is known as the start of the new millennium . hence people born around that time being called millennials <| sep |> I live in Van and tickets like those are sometimes even hard to give away . I have seen them play Arizona so many times . <| sep |> So given that , here ' s my thoughts get as much time and as many laps as you can on ice . Remember that you want to top rope at least 150 ish times on ice before your first lead , and this is your chance to do that in one of the prime learning facilities in the world , with great guides . Since you have to fly across the country to get into snow and , really then , mountains , you should take this opportunity to practice skills that are harder earned , and that is definitely ice climbing . Winter mountaineering ain ' t huge compared to that not downplaying it , either , but let ' s be realistic , especially if you want to move more technical and into bigger mountains . Ice climbing had me stoked outta my gourd the first time I tried it , so I couldn ' t wait to get back on the ice . I ' d wager a bet you ' ll be the same way .