Drowning in the shower . don ' t know how I could possibly do that . <| sep |> Lord knows Jill is smart enough to know the GE result won ' t be overturned hillary can ' t flip enough states . She may be making the DNC sweat . They rode roughshod over the party and forced the hrc coronation . An audit would help expose flaws for 2018 , which Dems will need to exploit to win . <| sep |> Fistbump back ! Happy black friday to you I guess 😂 <| sep |> You think that stopping the genocide of the Amalekites and Canaanites , is the same as stepping into a hospital and shutting it down ? You missed the point of the analogy . If you do not know the purpose of the pain and suffering in a hospital you may misjudge it . Just like you misjudged God judging the Amalekites and Canaanites . Murdering people cannot be compared to the necessary pain of surgery and rehabilitation . I ' ll repeat myself that was an analogy if you don ' t understand the point of the suffering then you can ' t really judge it . You have a claim to back if you say that there is a reason for the suffering . Already stated that Some people come to faith and trust in Jesus Christ via difficult times . I see no indication in the Bible that God ' s purpose is to have us have a carefree life but to forge us into those who freely chose to extend those things that God values like love , mercy , honesty , integrity and etc . And a world where there is pain and suffering seems to facilitate this . There is also the point that God made the world perfectly good and man made it imperfect , and that imperfection includes pain and suffering . Kinda did when I said there would have been alternatives to the choices your god made , that would have caused less suffering in the world . Your argument is invalid unless you can show that this world isn ' t the one with the most amount of good with the least amount of evil . tell people way back when to boil their stuff to reduce infections . I work in a hospital and we have people who do not follow the simple health standard of washing their hands . Almost all sexually transmitted diseases would be eliminated of people practiced safe sex . Or better practiced lifetime marital monogamy as God proscribed . Also their are health codes in the bible . so no matter how much you tell people the best course of action they do not follow it . If he wants us to freely choose those things , should he interfere ? I mean , does he want a completely free choice where he doesn ' t even point us in the right direction and we figure it out for ourselves ? Will he point the way ? Will he say there ' s X reward for doing X and F punishment for doing E , hoping we ' ll figure out the way ? To freely choose something simply means not being caused to do something by anything other then oneself . Freely choosing to extend things that God values sounds very nice , but when we look into the details of it , it all kinda falls apart , to me at least . Mmmmk